Feeble England crumble to 112 all out
24/02/2021
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England are bowled out for 112 before India reach 99-3 on the first day of the third Test in Ahmedabad.
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Vikram
24/02/2021 16:40:00
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It's just a vintage England tour now...win the toss win the match..look forward to Agnew's next blame article...must be that pink ball eh??
Indeed, it's probably going to be the wrong shade of pink for Aggers
Enjoying the English discomfort i see.. l
Ho hum, here we go again & no blaming the pitch this time! Aside from Crawley, who did play well, that was fairly awful. I'm a bit disappointed Zak was asked to open, but Sibley was out so quick, I guess it didn't really matter. Still not convinced by YJB at 3, despite the fact he actually avgs well there, and Pope is right out of form (118 in his last 8). Impossible task from here, methinks!
I think if England can get us out for 225 or so, they are in with a big chance.
Sending YJB a good player out there home andvthem bring him back involving flight, quarantine, 7 hr no stop bus journey, quarantine then expect him to perform is SHAMEFUL
what is very concerning is this...
Zak Crawley 53 (84)
Rest of England 53 (211)
Zak Crawley 53 (84)
Rest of England 53 (211)
Let the hostilities begin....
Notice ..?
1st Test – England crush India and it’s all in great sportsmanship.
2nd Test – India pulverize England and it’s a rubbish pitch & Kohli’s a weasel.
Let’s get away from that. No “3rd Test – it’s under lights and the ball swings too much/pitch taking too much spin on Day 1” (or whatever it might be), it’s unseemly, even if true.
1st Test – England crush India and it’s all in great sportsmanship.
2nd Test – India pulverize England and it’s a rubbish pitch & Kohli’s a weasel.
Let’s get away from that. No “3rd Test – it’s under lights and the ball swings too much/pitch taking too much spin on Day 1” (or whatever it might be), it’s unseemly, even if true.
A few comments:-
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
Im not so sure on the last bit, it might be because its a new stadium and they might not have sorted out all the mini issues (like the lights turning off and all that), but pretty spot on!
I would like to see the concept of umpires call shelved when neutral umpires cannot be used. There is probably nothing in it - but Gill is not out with half the ball hitting the wicket and Root is out with 1/4 hitting. After the last test destroyed any faith England had in the umpires, it would help to remove any suspicion of bias.
Ha yeah, surprised he didn’t review it:)
Let's not forget Root disgracing the game. Again.
How about Rohit Sharma's batting genius? In second consecutive Test he is showing how to play spin and doing it with ease!!
I also think that in the end he made correct decisions but he didn't follow the process correctly and as an Indian I feel that third umpire must be told to look at all the angels available and then only he should make his decisions.
Agreed. While the on field umpires where excellent, third umpire(while his decisions were undoubtedly correct) hurried through the camera angles like axar patel with his overs.
Does anybody wonder why India's record at home is so eyecatching. Doctored pitches and totally inept umpiring so far is evident. There was reason the ICC went for neutral umpires and it is blatantly obvious why.
Especially when the third Umpire spent an age looking at the decisions against England looking at every possible angle. Stump cam might have shown a better angle for the stumping. Very poor umpiring. Let's not paper over the cracks though. England's batting was awful!
Awful thing to say but to be frank the third umpire seems to see what he needs to and then goes with it makes it even more suspicious that kohli didn’t walk when bowled ??
Strangely hasty when England are batting. Much more considered when an Indian wicket is on the line. Wonder why
However valid everyone's points may or may not be, the umpires and few support staff couldve padded up and joined us on the field and we still would've got battered today.
Close calls and umpire performance discussions are probably best reserved for close games!
Close calls and umpire performance discussions are probably best reserved for close games!
Too many Indians , not enough chiefs
Can't believe this comment is the highest rated.
Kholi bowled again but wouldn’t say he walked, more crawled off waiting for the crowd to say they had come to see him bat????
Third umpire I thought much better today - Stokes clearly didn’t catch cleanly ( not his fault). Some replays were poor quality but better performance than last test.
Third umpire I thought much better today - Stokes clearly didn’t catch cleanly ( not his fault). Some replays were poor quality but better performance than last test.
He got the decisions RRIIIGHT!! ENGLAND ARE GRAASPING DESPERATELY!!
You did not need any more angles to see that the ball hit the ground.Time to bring in yellow cards in cricket to stop the petulance shown by Root and expressions of Stokes when he must have known it hit the ground.I would say he was trying to cheat.
there was nothing wrong with both decisions!
If the results had gone england's way, all those who complain would have heard a huge chorus how " everyone must move on" and "the third umpire is using up too much time looking at the various video footages"!
i have seen and heard england trash dl method when they lose and tell others to "suck it up" when dl tipped the result in their favor!
If the results had gone england's way, all those who complain would have heard a huge chorus how " everyone must move on" and "the third umpire is using up too much time looking at the various video footages"!
i have seen and heard england trash dl method when they lose and tell others to "suck it up" when dl tipped the result in their favor!
I don’t get leaving Stone out. Bringing Anderson back seems reasonable (he should probably have played in the 2nd Test) but Stone performed better than Broad. (Cue predictable but not necessarily inaccurate criticism of Broad.) Plus we’ve left one of our main spinners out and sent another home (and then blamed him for it). Ho hum.
90% of England fans clearly stated (last match) “win the toss win the match”. What’s the excuse this time. 112 all out winning the toss and batting first is the issue. Everything else is noise. Lets not even go there on ganging up on the umpire on a clearly grounded catch which every English pundit said was grounded.
Is the match over already?
yep the win the toss brigade wont be on here for a while methinks
The first match it may have been the case - we won the toss and won the match?
Second test it ragged from the first morning, both sides had similar batting and bowling conditions, Indian team played them better.
Second test it ragged from the first morning, both sides had similar batting and bowling conditions, Indian team played them better.
Different circumstances completely. The last pitch was shocking and specifically prepared to help the home team. This one is a fair cricket wicket and England have picked the wrong team and played poorly. No complaints from me as an England supporter here- India deservedly well on top. We should look at our own failings, buckle down and make the best of it
Quite right, Dips....the 8 at this stage (5:50pm) who've down voted your comment don't want great cricket and may the best team win cricket...they just their team to win at any cost...very silly - and not in the true spirit of the game
In the second test, India scored 286 in the second innings batting mostly on Day 3. This was almost as much as England scored in both innings combined(Day 2 & Day 4). The "win the toss win the game" theory is an excuse to absolve the English batters of their horrendous performance. Note also that India had 5 different players score 50s in the last test so scoring was possible.
Funny isn't? Like i said at the time...
Manc45
21:06 16 Feb
India's batsmen are better, the end. England did very well to win that 1st test...
India are very, very good. This is hard .
Manc45
21:06 16 Feb
India's batsmen are better, the end. England did very well to win that 1st test...
India are very, very good. This is hard .
Is your 90% anecdotal?
They hadn’t seen the replay in the stadium at that point - I hope they were embarrassed after they had seen it. Stokes clearly felt one finger under the ball but the grass is too long for that to be seen. Many catches that feel right don’t look it for the same reason.
Those pundits arguing the toss (no pun intended) re grounded or not catches, are stuck... Caught up in the heights of Indian's brilliance today. Reminds me of days past when the 1980's West Indian team of Marshall, Holding, Garner & Croft were taking poorly defending, unpatriotic, careless English wickets...!!
The first test pitch was too flat, the second overprepared and not to test standard. This one more even but still to India's advantage, which is fine. England must ensure India are welcomed in kind and must err on the side of green seamers. The shame of this is that you don't get an even battle with too much home advantage either way.
Well said.
Solution, prepare a day 4 or 5 turning wicket for day one and play three spinners. Batting first or second makes no difference then?
It's biased umpiring, plain and simple. It's happened far too many times in this series now for it to be called 'bad umpiring'. I would've had Bairstow come in for Pope instead and bat at five, Crawley at three, Bess instead of Archer as well.
I suspect dropping Pope for Burns may well be on the cards, as he's only scored 118 in his last 8. And yes, I would prefer to have Crawley at 3 (although that doesn't make much odds when one of openers keeps getting out for a duck!). And, logically, that pushes YJB to 5 & Stokes to 6.
India once again disrespecting Test Match cricket by preparing yet another 5th day pitch for the 1st day. Test Matches are designed to test all aspects of the game not just Spin.
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
Very poor 1st innings score. I blame the Indians, really – the players, the coaches, the groundstaff, the crowd; in fact, the entire nation of India. And Brexit, obviously.
Even I can tell that Stokes dropped that catch, and I have a guide ??
Mr. Fatboy, this might be the comment of the day ..... lol.
I agree.
When a player drops (doesn't complete a catch, he knows it 99% of the time). I wonder why Stokes didn't say he didn't take it cleanly?
When a player drops (doesn't complete a catch, he knows it 99% of the time). I wonder why Stokes didn't say he didn't take it cleanly?
???? brilliant. Even looking through biased eyes I didn't see an incorrect call today. Just got done
So did England's batsmen !!!!!
Very poor behaviour from Root and Broad today. I'd like to think neither will be coming home with their match fee.
Kohli disagrees !
What's the excuses this time Capt Root? Bowled out again under 200! Disgraceful from a international team ! Gutless
90% of England fans clearly stated (last match) “win the toss win the match”. What’s the excuse this time. 112 all out winning the toss and batting first is the issue. Everything else is noise. Lets not even go there on ganging up on the umpire on a clearly grounded catch which every English pundit said was grounded.
No it isn’t but if you follow the logic it should be because England won the test as soon as they won the toss
Tell us how are we going to win this match and i might think your comment carries some merit
"Is the match over already?"
In the immortal words of Kenneth Wolsteholme at the 1966 world cup. "They think it's all over. It is now"
In the immortal words of Kenneth Wolsteholme at the 1966 world cup. "They think it's all over. It is now"
India once again disrespecting Test Match cricket by preparing yet another 5th day pitch for the 1st day. Test Matches are designed to test all aspects of the game not just Spin.
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
Looking a really clever idea isn't it going into the match with four seamers on that pitch and only one recognised spinner ?
Poor batting too, Geoffrey Boycott last seen in John Lewis looking at new TVs and crockery.
Poor batting too, Geoffrey Boycott last seen in John Lewis looking at new TVs and crockery.
I think the reality is Bess isn't trusted. I guess we cold have thrown Virdi in (if he is still out there). I don't blame India for preparing this pithc. It takes the toss out of the equation as they couldn't risk a featherbed for 2 days . We have to accept the conditions and get on with it. THe third umpire needs to look at himself - where's the rush fella!?
Are you perhaps suggesting that you know more than the England Management Team? If England had rolled over India with all the seamers taking wickets, you would be saying, ''what brilliant tactics and management from the England staff".
Maybe you should give Root a call and give him some advice, as clearly you are vastly experienced and know more than him.
Maybe you should give Root a call and give him some advice, as clearly you are vastly experienced and know more than him.
You are right. We missed the batting of Dom Bess down the order
Apart from the fact all John Lewis stores are closed due to Covid.
Shocking display from England, yes the wicket turned but there was consistent bounce unlike the previous pitch
I wasn't shocked by England's performance. It was the 1st test that shocked me. This test appears to be shambolic, starting with selecting one one spinner.
Huge clouds of dust coming up from the strip on day one, bowlers already risking life and limb with footholds shifting.
A few years ago a Test was abandoned in the West Indies v England series after it was dangerous to play on topsoil that had sand in it. Will this ever happen in India or have they got the cricket authorities firmly by the googlies??
A few years ago a Test was abandoned in the West Indies v England series after it was dangerous to play on topsoil that had sand in it. Will this ever happen in India or have they got the cricket authorities firmly by the googlies??
We were bad.
But if you want an example as to why we need neutral umpires just watch today’s play.
But if you want an example as to why we need neutral umpires just watch today’s play.
Give all England players out so if they review India get Unpires call decisions and don’t give Indian batsmen out so they get the benefit of Umpires calls, one rule for one as they say
Being bowled out for 112 isn’t what you do when you win the toss and bat - apply yourself and get 300+ at least. Not a bad display with the ball though.
Also, the third umpire is irritating some by not being more thorough - I don’t think he’s got any decision wrong, but it’s more a case of silencing any doubters. Just show us some more angles!
Also, the third umpire is irritating some by not being more thorough - I don’t think he’s got any decision wrong, but it’s more a case of silencing any doubters. Just show us some more angles!
Isn't it prudent on the part of the fielder to not claim a catch when you know you dropped it (didn't take it clean)?
Please don't tell me a fielder doesn't honestly know if he didn't complete a catch cleanly.
Please don't tell me a fielder doesn't honestly know if he didn't complete a catch cleanly.
Yeah let's make it more irritating for everyone let's waste more time on angles rather than adding more runs to the board/bowling more and taking wickets... England are complaining because Indians have a long batting lineup they desperately want rohit out as well as Kohli. Pathetic
I agree that the third umpire should have looked at more angles for the Rohit stumping chance but even the crowd cheered the first replay was shown for the Stokes catch (non-catch) as it was kind of obvious that the fingers of Stokes' left hand were not under the ball.
If the 3rd umpire had indeed spent longer looking at the replays, then the complaint would be that since the umpire needed to look at multiple angles, there isn't conclusive evidence to overrule the on field decision. What I dislike is the on field umpires even making a out/not-out calls for these kinds of decisions. It should just be left to the 3rd umpire to look at all replays and make a call.
You don't need another angle when the one looked at was definitive.
I thought we want the game sped up when it comes to making decisions. Once they are correct, move on.
"apply yourself" - the English disease. We so rarely do - our national football team thought for years they 'deserved' success because they had so much ability...but were found wanting. This England side refuse to learn, albeit with a few honourable exceptions. Bairstow should not be there, and does anyone else think Stokes' bowling is waay too inconsistent at this level? Botham he is not.
Biggest disappointment is not learning from last game. Poking around on these dry pitches against quality spinners will get you nowhere. No one used their feet or showed any form of positivity except for Crawley, who got out when he stopped being positive. Just awful defensive technique and Ben Foakes, 12 from 58 balls was not what was needed in that situation.
Kohli wicket keeps us in it. Just.
Kohli wicket keeps us in it. Just.
90% of England fans clearly stated (last match) “win the toss win the match”. What’s the excuse this time. 112 all out winning the toss and batting first is the issue. Everything else is noise. Lets not even go there on ganging up on the umpire on a clearly grounded catch which every English pundit said was grounded.
How can England win a test by 227 runs, only to lose the next one by 317 runs a week later to the same opposition? That's a swing of 544 runs - in one week! And they've started this test in the same vein. Frightening how England still show no ability to adapt or consolidate.
England have a fragility issue. It’s not as bad as it used to be, but those of us who’ve watched England for a while know that this is far from the first collapse.
What’s frustrating is that we always seem to find a way to disaster. If it spins, we struggle, if it goes straight on, we struggle. We have to be more adaptive and avoid this kind of contagion
What’s frustrating is that we always seem to find a way to disaster. If it spins, we struggle, if it goes straight on, we struggle. We have to be more adaptive and avoid this kind of contagion
I would place my bet on India being underprepared for their own conditions in first test after playing away tests for so long - along with Root's magnificence. England on the other hand came from a recent test in the sub continent. Not taking anything away from England's win but since the first test, India have shown that they have better adapted to the subcontinent and going about their business.
Soreas betting
Horror show today.
Can’t understand Broad’s selection.
Crawley aside, batting was poor on a 250 pitch. When you bat that badly, you have to take your catches. We didn’t.
The ‘umpires call’ decision all went against England and another questionable call by the 3rd umpire.
India well on top, Kohli still obnoxious. Game and series feel over
Can’t understand Broad’s selection.
Crawley aside, batting was poor on a 250 pitch. When you bat that badly, you have to take your catches. We didn’t.
The ‘umpires call’ decision all went against England and another questionable call by the 3rd umpire.
India well on top, Kohli still obnoxious. Game and series feel over
14 v 11 not fair!
Starting to get embarrassed by the BBC commentary staff and English players. Take a deep breath and see that the Stokes catch and the Rohit stumping are not out. Third umpire doesn't need to stroke the team's ego by going through the other angles if the first view shows obvious "NOT OUT" calls. Excuses are being made for terrible performances. The players crowding round the on-field umpire is poor
He does and should review all angles to dispel doubt. All TV umpires usually go for the belt and braces approach. Nothing wrong in investing time in getting it spot on. The fact that this is being debated on here shows that there is an element of doubt.
It probably won't make much difference come the end of the match, but the photographic quality between Stokes "catch" and the catch to dismiss Leach was startling - at least on my TV.
I’m not sure which was the most embarrassing:
England's collapse, Bairstow’s selfish referral or Swann’s narcissistic ramblings.
England's collapse, Bairstow’s selfish referral or Swann’s narcissistic ramblings.
Swann is in a league of his own when it comes to bad commentary
I've never read Swann's Narcissistic Ramblings all the way through. I'm told it's a great book...by Swann himself.
Swann tries far too hard to be funny and it shows.
You missed that you need a mute bottom solely when Gavaskar is on
It is about time younger cricket fans experienced what we had to go through in the nineties.
Dreadful . Four top five out LBW to straight bals they should have easily kept out the other giving catching practice to India. Also blatant cheating by third umpire . Why look and every angle on a review from India to give best possible chance of giving decision to home side then just quick look and turn down England reviews? very suspect.
Rohit Sharma looked out to me his foot comes down after bails broken shocking not to look from other side with camera
Absolutely disgraceful over rate from England 11.3!!!!. That's least half a dozen overs that have slipped into oblivion. If its not cheating your opponents it's certainly cheating those who were watching. No doubt there will be silence from the sainted commentators.
I think England will be docked points in the championship not that its going to matter.
Slow over rates is one of the biggest threats to Test cricket, but nobody wants to do anything about it. Pundits and commentators are all former players so they don't see it from a fan's perspective. No wonder kids think Test cricket is slow - it IS slow
I agree (sorry I downticked you by accident and can't undo it).
It's supposed to be an entertainment industry - imagine going to any other event and being told to leave part way through which is effectively what is happening with this
Slow over rates need to be punished punatively - make it 36 runs per over not bowled and they will easily manage 15 overs an hour
Slow over rates need to be punished punatively - make it 36 runs per over not bowled and they will easily manage 15 overs an hour
I'm wandering how much time was lost trying to make the pitch safe for the bowlers? I don't know but seemed to take a fair time out of the game.
Well nothing's gone right for England there, and they need to park the whingeing tomorrow. Root & Smith made some odd bets for this game and none have come off. No wonder he's narked.
All I can say is well bowled India & batting 99-3 absolutely dispels the pitch myth comments. England were appalling in batting, fielding, selection & management. Only Crawley (who looks like a young Gower!) comes away with any England credit.
Indeed Zak was tremendous. My memory stretches to Peter May and some of Crawleys drives were reminiscent of that wonderful player.
Comment of the day, very well summed it up today
Spot on.
what is very concerning is this...
Zak Crawley 53 (84)
Rest of England 53 (211)
what is very concerning is this...
Zak Crawley 53 (84)
Rest of England 53 (211)
Thought Foakes also batted well. It was just that we was left with a bunch of rabbits (8 to 11) to bat with.
All is not lost.
Many on here said 'win the toss, win the game.'
Let's hope I was wrong and they actually do know something about cricket.
Many on here said 'win the toss, win the game.'
Let's hope I was wrong and they actually do know something about cricket.
What you blaming today on boys and girls?
Pink Ball has really helped England ????
Team selection looks great right now!
Awesome India today ?? Axar looks a real find, absolute quality ??
If India score 350 on this I reckon they won't have to bat again!
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Pink Ball has really helped England ????
Team selection looks great right now!
Awesome India today ?? Axar looks a real find, absolute quality ??
If India score 350 on this I reckon they won't have to bat again!
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I think the reality is Bess isn't trusted. I guess we cold have thrown Virdi in (if he is still out there). I don't blame India for preparing this pithc. It takes the toss out of the equation as they couldn't risk a featherbed for 2 days . We have to accept the conditions and get on with it. THe third umpire needs to look at himself - where's the rush fella!?
Both Stone and Bess had wickets in their India test matches, Broad 0 wicket in his and still wicketless, just an observation.
But Bess averages 22.41 in the Indian subcontinent. Broad averages 50.79 with only 24 wickets in 25 innings.
that is really not a bad shout honestly.... I think many have forgotten about Amar Virdi, he has done consistently well for Surrey
perhaps he was trying to make up time for the slow over rate ?
He was correct. Right.
Vaughan and Agnew have been less vociferous about the state of the surface today... yes it’s spun on day 1 again which isn’t good but doesn’t underestimate the poor choice to only go with one spinner.
India are better than us, it's not rocket science.
classic batting collapse by england...
whats the excuse this time? pink ball not favouring batsmen? Well bowled Axar Patel though..
whats the excuse this time? pink ball not favouring batsmen? Well bowled Axar Patel though..
Aye, a great display of slow bowling by Axar Patel; upstaging Ashwin is no easy task
Wrong shade of pink
I hope people complain about the boorish behaviour of Root and co. like they did with Kohli in the last match. Root taking out his frustation of playing only one spinner on the umpires.
Nobody does boorish better than arrogant Kohli
I think Root was upset because the review showed Rohit was out, but the 3rd umpire gave him not out.
I'm not saying that the Indian umpire was cheating....actually, I am saying that.
But it's India.
They prepare pitches purely for their team and the umpires are active in their support for their team.
If this series had neutral umpires Rohit would have gone.
I'm not saying that the Indian umpire was cheating....actually, I am saying that.
But it's India.
They prepare pitches purely for their team and the umpires are active in their support for their team.
If this series had neutral umpires Rohit would have gone.
Difference is, Root will probably get punished. Unlike Virat Kohli, the ‘Ronnie O’Sullivan of Cricket’.
Problematic when you are facing a great spin attack,good batters and dodgy umpiring again.
Ripped em a new one!!
There will be tendency to bury the head in the sand and blame everything on the condition and umpires but fact of the matter is that England played horribly in the best batting conditions available in the whole match which has caused all the frustrations.
No there won't be.
Even I can tell that Stokes dropped that catch, and I have a guide ??
Starting to get embarrassed by the BBC commentary staff and English players. Take a deep breath and see that the Stokes catch and the Rohit stumping are not out. Third umpire doesn't need to stroke the team's ego by going through the other angles if the first view shows obvious "NOT OUT" calls. Excuses are being made for terrible performances. The players crowding round the on-field umpire is poor
Indeed it avoids the perception of bias.
I suspect the stumping is not out, although the fact the host broadcaster has not provided stump cam replays makes me a little concerned.
The catch i do have an issue with! In that the soft signal was out - there was not enough to overturn that. The ball likely carried, unclear if it was then dragged. If the soft signal had been not out then fine.
I suspect the stumping is not out, although the fact the host broadcaster has not provided stump cam replays makes me a little concerned.
The catch i do have an issue with! In that the soft signal was out - there was not enough to overturn that. The ball likely carried, unclear if it was then dragged. If the soft signal had been not out then fine.
I understand where you are coming from but third umpire's job isn't to re-assure the English fans and BBC commentators; their job is to adjudge correct rulings. If it is clear in the first view that should be enough - we need to respect umpires etc., it annoys me when frustrations are focussed on those who are facilitating the match.
There was none. Doubt that is.
This is being debated because there is no other excuse to this abject performance
Do not get this focus on the Stokes catch or Rohit stumping. Yes there is always a margin or error, people see things differently. Get that when youre down, lamenting what could have been is tempting. But sorry, neither was out!
No excuses,,just frustratingly soil pipe waste,,
Good job we brought Bairstow back !
Have we sent the England football team by mistake ! ??
India once again disrespecting Test Match cricket by preparing yet another 5th day pitch for the 1st day. Test Matches are designed to test all aspects of the game not just Spin.
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
In a few months the ECB will be foisting the ridiculous Hundred on us whilst forcing proper cricket to the edges.
What is happening to our great game???
A few comments:-
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
No, we're sending the under 14s over to make it a fair contest.
At least we don't have a captain whose better at sledging than he is at playing cricket.
India have three spinners England have one (respectfully not including JR).
Such forward thinking!.
Such forward thinking!.
Rohit Sharma looked out to me his foot comes down after bails broken shocking not to look from other side with camera
Which is a shame, it should not be but it will be because that was not a particularly competent performance from the 3rd official?
The focus should be the poor batting from england.
The focus should be the poor batting from england.
That pitch is spinning too much. Time to do something about these biased pitches the home teams set up.
Get this Indian team onto a proper cricket pitch in England and see how they do.
Get this Indian team onto a proper cricket pitch in England and see how they do.
The pitch is spinning too much and yet several players being lbw to balls that just went straight on...interesting!!!!
Haha another silly pitch rant. England won the toss and didn't perform. Face it.
Pitches in England generally seam, pitches in India spin, it’s the weather you know?
Surprised with England's team selection today and in general not quite sure how effective the rotation policy is . The fact that India went in with 3 spinners and England went in with 1 spinner says one team has read the pitch & conditions wrong. Hope that team is not England but highly unlikely given the state of play on day 1 and with Leach being the best bowler on day 1 of a day/night test
Hopeless selection. Plainly ridiculous rotation policy- Especially away from home - spend a few games getting used to conditions and you are out. In come players who have start all over again. Misread the pitch and conditions- short of a batter and a second spinner. Too many seamers. Long tail. Could not have got it more wrong.
If you;
1 Pick the wrong team.
2 Bowl your spinner from the wrong end.
3 Set ridiculous fields.
4 Bat very badly.
Then you are going to struggle.
The omission of Stone and Bess was a moronic decision.
Still, we may improve tomorrow.
1 Pick the wrong team.
2 Bowl your spinner from the wrong end.
3 Set ridiculous fields.
4 Bat very badly.
Then you are going to struggle.
The omission of Stone and Bess was a moronic decision.
Still, we may improve tomorrow.
Dropping Bess was right decision, probably bowled more full tosses in this series so far than all the other bowlers put together
Very much doubt it, but would be nice if we bowled 15 overs an hour, about time something was done about slow over rates.
Saw the line up and thought crikey win the Toss and we bowl then ... Obviously not.
Old Boys doing selection then again yes run containment but they or one of them will need to pull a rabbit out the hat job.
As for Leach one hell of a long time now bowling too going to happen. JR need to be turning his arm over.
Old Boys doing selection then again yes run containment but they or one of them will need to pull a rabbit out the hat job.
As for Leach one hell of a long time now bowling too going to happen. JR need to be turning his arm over.
I think we (England) need more back room staff, there is not enough, more bowling "coaches" maybe a 12th man coach and also a coach for the coaches
Nice
Perhaps we need a coach for the coaches, a double decker over which India can lob their 6s and a cricket pantechnicon...because we need to move lots of old cricketing furniture into storage, in order to decide on a different way of preparing to do our best
Perhaps we need a coach for the coaches, a double decker over which India can lob their 6s and a cricket pantechnicon...because we need to move lots of old cricketing furniture into storage, in order to decide on a different way of preparing to do our best
Unfortunately too many coaches are being parked at football matches.
A few comments:-
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
I mean can the third umpire take his time to dispel any lingering doubt. THe fact that his performance is being debated is not good and if the technology is available it must be used properly.
I would use the word thorough.
Vaughan at 16:29:
Jack Leach is getting better and better, he's improving every day
Vaughan at 16:41:
The England players don't seem to be improving.
Troll. Removed
Jack Leach is getting better and better, he's improving every day
Vaughan at 16:41:
The England players don't seem to be improving.
Troll. Removed
A few comments:-
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
1) Well bowled Axar Patel and Leach
2) Well batted Crawley
3) Good to see Kohli walk :)
4) Can the third umpire please take a little longer over making key decisions. He probably got the Stokes 'catch' and stumping at the end correct, but probably isn't good enough when he has multiple camera angles and zoom available. Too hasty and this must be looked at for the good of the game.
I would like to see the concept of umpires call shelved when neutral umpires cannot be used. There is probably nothing in it - but Gill is not out with half the ball hitting the wicket and Root is out with 1/4 hitting. After the last test destroyed any faith England had in the umpires, it would help to remove any suspicion of bias.
In the last match Kohli got out to Moeen on umpires call and Root survived plump lbw on umpires call. Just two examples. There were other Indian players who got out to umpires call.
I think the on field decisions have been fine and i do not think the players have had a problem with that. It is the TV decision making , specifically the process. I don't think it is bias, more an issue of very inexperienced 3rd umpires at test level.
Sorry but that's always the same. You won't be complaining if we get wickets in the Ashes due to the same.
I think the reality is Bess isn't trusted. I guess we cold have thrown Virdi in (if he is still out there). I don't blame India for preparing this pithc. It takes the toss out of the equation as they couldn't risk a featherbed for 2 days . We have to accept the conditions and get on with it. THe third umpire needs to look at himself - where's the rush fella!?
England just couldn't catch a break today. That said they've been outplayed for the past two tests. They need some early wickets tomorrow otherwise its 2-1
Another pathetic display with the bat. Technically flawed. None of them have an even half decent basic defensive shot. Prod with hard hands around a planted front foot or go back to length deliveries. Attack consists of the sweep shot. As for the personnel choices. One spinner! We’re playing in India. They are not going to prepare a green top. Utterly incompetent team selection. ??
Batting on that pitch looked tough, the ball was spinning / not spinning / bouncing / not bouncing for the first few hours of the match. Plus their spinners are great bowlers, bowling really well on a pitch designed for their strengths.
And we seem to have about 10 thousand backroom staff so surely someone could have seen that ! You are spot on
Wait until you see the second innings, 0 for 2 after 3 balls with a succesful review. Why did Root not bowl until India were in the lead on a spinners wicket then taking 5 wickets for 8 runs. Bad selection, bad captaincy, bad performance, bad decisions. The pitch is not good but that is no excuse for an inept performance. Why rotate Moeen Ali out of the team on spinners wickets.
And a bigger coach to drive them to the matches in. Can save money on booking the return in 3 days instead of 5
How would they get to the stadium ? Coach?
What about a coach for the coach driver? It’s been a bad day.
Another shocking bowler friendly pitch ... erm ... dodgy footing on landing foot ... fercrisakes !... erm ... ;D
I see all the Cr*ms are awake.
Strewth.
As far as I am aware, Australia can't beat Indian now either home or away.
Oh great...now I have that stupid theme song in my head.
Is Alf still alive?
Strewth.
As far as I am aware, Australia can't beat Indian now either home or away.
Oh great...now I have that stupid theme song in my head.
Is Alf still alive?
Absolutely disgraceful over rate from England 11.3!!!!. That's least half a dozen overs that have slipped into oblivion. If its not cheating your opponents it's certainly cheating those who were watching. No doubt there will be silence from the sainted commentators.
No excuses,,just frustratingly soil pipe waste,,
It's a close call, both down the pan,
Very poor team batting application on a Day 1 pitch. That top order needs some serious work to get consistent scores especially the number 3 position.
Will Root grow a pair and come in at number 3 in the 2nd innings when his team will desperately need a score from him. Nah! He'll shuffle in at 5 once the night watchman gets out and it'll all fall apart??
Confidence must have been shattered after the last test match I was very surprised England chose to bat first. The best hope was to put India in and try and get some early wickets to seize the initiative and India sensed the opportunity by piling pressure on the nervous English batsmen. Real shame for Crawley not to take it on to a bigger score after playing so well and Root also looked assured.
If there is one thing you can count on it's an "England Collapse". Simply not good enough. Missed chances in the field as well. Poor day.
Indian Spinners doing the work again. Axar and Ashwin were simply unplayable at times.
Why we only selected one spinner is beyond me.
At this rate, the game will be won by Friday.
Indian Spinners doing the work again. Axar and Ashwin were simply unplayable at times.
Why we only selected one spinner is beyond me.
At this rate, the game will be won by Friday.