Covid-19: PM promises review on issues of vaccine passports
23/02/2021
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Having to show a certificate to go to a pub raises "deep and complex issues", Boris Johnson says.
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I can see attraction of a vaccine passport, but can also see issues if the Government doesn't have a common sense approach. Quite a few people have adverse reactions to vaccinations. My son was one such person with his MMR jab some years ago, From later that day for 3 weeks he was in bed with a high temperature & severe headache. Even now he can't take bright sunlight. Will there be exemptions?
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The whole point of them is to make there be no exception. Your son was healthy and look what a widely trialled vaccine did to him. Every one of the covid vaccines has been rushed out without the typical development period of up to 10 years. Never should medicime be coerced or be made mandatory. It is for the individual to manage risk for themselves.
The anti MMR vaccine hoax was due to the efforts of one misguided individual, who was discredited and removed from the medical profession years ago.
Vaccine passports.
The retired, who have spent the last year sitting at home complaining, reading the Daily Mail after voting in a referendum to make us all poorer. THEY get to go on holiday.
Meanwhile the young, who've been working on the front line as health staff, teachers, police, army, retail, hospitality and transport workers all have to stay at home.
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The retired, who have spent the last year sitting at home complaining, reading the Daily Mail after voting in a referendum to make us all poorer. THEY get to go on holiday.
Meanwhile the young, who've been working on the front line as health staff, teachers, police, army, retail, hospitality and transport workers all have to stay at home.
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Im not retired. Ive been working, i plan on getting the vaccine, i also plan to go on holiday when it is safe. I never plan on reading the daily mail though. My significant other is a teacher and will be doing the same. Your point?
Very true, not only have the young been hit hardest economically by the pandemic, now they have to wait the longest to go back to normal life. Guess Johnson can't alienate his ageing voters.
You lost my sympathy for your argument the moment you invoked the ‘mail, and ‘referendum’ into it.
I guess you read the equally polarising comic called the ‘Guardian’ and were silly enough to vote ‘remain’
Stereotypes are not nice are they?
I guess you read the equally polarising comic called the ‘Guardian’ and were silly enough to vote ‘remain’
Stereotypes are not nice are they?
Thank you for all you have done for us oldies. I fully agree vaccine proof should only apply after your age group has had access to a vaccine. I sincerely hope we won’t be allowing anyone in from abroad who has not been vaccinated, without quarantining
Bless! And all the retired you so despise were born with silver spoons in their mouths, have never served their country, and have been consistently had their lives endangered by [some] selfish young people. Grow up.
We don't all read the Daily Heil or vote for the Tories and Brexit . Haven't complained much either and our daughter is a front line health worker.
She has had the vaccine because of her work and has booked a well deserved holiday. We have also booked a holiday and when vaccinated will hopefully enjoy it too.
What's so unfair about that?
She has had the vaccine because of her work and has booked a well deserved holiday. We have also booked a holiday and when vaccinated will hopefully enjoy it too.
What's so unfair about that?
This extends far beyond just holidays. Rather ironically, in exerting such huge efforts in protecting the elderly, the young are going to have to bear the true burden of this pandemic.
(And yes, I appreciate that the older folk in society didn't exactly choose to be the most susceptible to severe illness/death or choose to be the focus of the government's 'efforts')
(And yes, I appreciate that the older folk in society didn't exactly choose to be the most susceptible to severe illness/death or choose to be the focus of the government's 'efforts')
Yes. What do you know about the hardships suffered by those older than you, when they were younger? Life can be hard - get used to the up and down nature of it, before you start alienating one group from another due to age.
You have hit the nail on the head,can only hope Sage cruises have terrible weather
very narrow minded and ageist view of the world. plenty of young ppl voted for brexit, its too overly simplistic to blame one demographic for all problems. reality is more complex than that.
Narrow minded comment. Retired, non Daily Mail reader, didn’t vote leave or conservative. Desperate to see family before even thinking of holidays. Something most of my peers want!!
I cannot believe how many decent people are feeding the troll! Although by typing this, I suppose I am too.
Which referendum made us all poorer? My company made about an extra 20 million last year.
It would be grossly unfair to bring in such a scheme this summer before every person has been offered the vaccine
You know that the retirement age is 67 right and currently everyone over 50 is being called for a vaccination? You also know that all health and social care workers have been invited too, regardless of age?
Hospitality is hardly front line and has been shut for the best part of a year.
Run your whinge again and see if you can make sense this time.
Hospitality is hardly front line and has been shut for the best part of a year.
Run your whinge again and see if you can make sense this time.
Yep.
lets hope they develop a anti thicko vaccine soon for you
Well said. Why not a balanced response to the pandemic that treats all age groups with equal respect?
The retired have been stuck in for the last year not spreading covid yes. The young have been out working all year having social contact with others and not isolated yes. If some countries require vaccination certificates to let you in then there’s nothing we can do about that yes. As the rules relax you can go out more too. ?? boo hoo. There there dear. Suck it up.
their generation is also why you are living freely and not speaking German laddie
It actually sounds very bitter and un-accepting that other people have a view regardless of their aged or demographic
Don't forgot the HYS regulars you're talking to are the ones you're describing as retired, sitting at home complaining and reading the daily mail. Don't expect your comment to be popular here!
I'm retired but all of your ridiculous generalisations about me were so wrong. They say much more about you than me or my many friends of my age. Better luck with your next drivel.
Please don't tar all of us older people with the same brush
The younger population will get their chance in a few months. When you get the chance take the vaccine. Stop looking for ficticious reasons not to have it.
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Erm, isn't that all a bit of a generalisation?
Yep...just do it.
There are no ethics and other snowflake issues associated with travel passport drivers licence etc.
Freedom of each individual not to vaccinate is fine but don't expect the freedom of everybody else to be curtailed or compromised to accommodate this.
Get on with it.
There are no ethics and other snowflake issues associated with travel passport drivers licence etc.
Freedom of each individual not to vaccinate is fine but don't expect the freedom of everybody else to be curtailed or compromised to accommodate this.
Get on with it.
Maybe it's time to start excluding those who refuse a vaccination from death statistics too? Or charge them for NHS treatment if they get Covid? Depends where we want to go as a society I suppose. Although as someone who will happily get vaccinated it is annoying to think that those that don't will prolong the lock down for all while befitting from those who do the socially responsible thing.
It becomes more difficult to dismiss conspiracy theories when their predictions come true...
For the record, I think the worrying increase in authoritarianism is more likely due to a failure on behalf of the public to understand risk rather than a grand plan drawn up in shadowy corridors
For the record, I think the worrying increase in authoritarianism is more likely due to a failure on behalf of the public to understand risk rather than a grand plan drawn up in shadowy corridors
It's unethical and immoral to force someone to have a medial treatment against their will (else tell them they will be excluded from society). It's unnecessary as the take up is so good that we will achieve immunity in any event (as best can be done - never 100% successful).
Perhaps we can get a committee of Labour MPs to deal with it and then refer it to the unions for agreement ?
Maybe they can get Chakrabarti to do it. It appears her price to stump up the pre-ordained outcome (such as a whitewash report of institutionalised anti-Semitism in the Labour Party) is a peerage and unelected front-bench role. Oh how she cried, boo-hoo, when she realised she had sold her credibility for a cheap (well, not so cheap) bribe.
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Difficult ethical issue this one.
I would suggest that this is important for international travel - as I am sure that some countries will impose this. In addition this should help 'persuade' people to get the jab.
As for internally within the UK, I would suggest this will be a minefield best avoided.
I would suggest that this is important for international travel - as I am sure that some countries will impose this. In addition this should help 'persuade' people to get the jab.
As for internally within the UK, I would suggest this will be a minefield best avoided.
I think the argument that because people don't want the vaccine it would be wrong to require evidence to go to a theatre or a pub is a strange one. They have a free choice not to have the vaccine then businesses also have the choice to refuse to serve them. Much like they require ID for proof of age, proof of vaccination is no different. Don't want to show one, don't get served.
and social media activities accumulating self-incriminating evidence all the time...
Who are the Little Englanders? Anybody who disagrees with you?
Yep. "My grandfather didn't fight the Nazis so that etc etc etc
Just curious, what relevance is your reference to 'Little Englanders'?
Most law abiding citizens have no objection to photo id or a national id card.
Most law abiding citizens have no objection to photo id or a national id card.
Oh look more nonsense from a bitter Remoaner.
Thankfully, most UK citizens don't hate their country, like Remoaners do.
Thankfully, most UK citizens don't hate their country, like Remoaners do.
No-one is being forced to have a vaccine against their will. There is nothing unethical to say that if you want to mix in public venues then you must take reasonable steps to protect others. It is no more than unethical than needing a certificate to say your card is roadworthy and not a danger to others before you can take it on the road.
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Never mind the Government, I don't think travel companies would allow anybody who hasn't had the vaccine on a plane or in a hotel. They risk litigation.
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There is no way I would want to share a plane/hotel with somebody who hasn't had the vaccine, and I'm sure I'm not alone with that.
I'm afraid it's a staycation for those without the jab.
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There is no way I would want to share a plane/hotel with somebody who hasn't had the vaccine, and I'm sure I'm not alone with that.
I'm afraid it's a staycation for those without the jab.
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Now I don't give a monkeys whether anyone else gets the vac or not. I personally will be off like a shot for mine, when its available. If someone chooses not to have theirs then they must understand that their choice may have an impact on my health as theres no guarantee vacc'd folk wont get ill. Therefore they must not be allowed to continue as if they were vacc'd and restrictions remain for them
Just read the latest Krankie news, Scotland is definitely not a holiday destination!
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Vaccine passports.
The retired, who have spent the last year sitting at home complaining, reading the Daily Mail after voting in a referendum to make us all poorer. THEY get to go on holiday.
Meanwhile the young, who've been working on the front line as health staff, teachers, police, army, retail, hospitality and transport workers all have to stay at home.
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The retired, who have spent the last year sitting at home complaining, reading the Daily Mail after voting in a referendum to make us all poorer. THEY get to go on holiday.
Meanwhile the young, who've been working on the front line as health staff, teachers, police, army, retail, hospitality and transport workers all have to stay at home.
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It's unlawful to treat someone who has refused treatment, unless they're incapacitated mentally. Even then it's a touchy subject.
28 thumbs down, what's is wrong with people huh? Well said DJG
28 thumbs down, what's is wrong with people huh? Well said DJG
There is a comment that springs to mind. Arbeit Mach Frei. Another nail in the coffin for liberty and freedom. People die and they will continue to do so. It's not nice and it's sad for the bereaved but it's life. This is dividing society and reminds me of the beginnings of apartheid or the ghetto clelearings. What next? those who can't have the vaccine must wear yellow stars and live in camps.
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This is the most silly comment on here. If we are dividing society then it's you on the left and the other 70 million on the right.
Ive had the virus. Ive had hang overs far worse. For someone whos talking about how brave they are you seem to have alot of fear in your words. 99% of the population will not down in their own body fluids. Stop your crying.
We already have ID cards only they are called Passports, drivers licences and National Insurance cards. Why not just have one ID card issued to every citizen? Using chip and pin technology it could have your driving licence, national insurance, passport identity, vaccination status, blood group, NHS number and donor status loaded on it.
Unnecessary. The vast majority will accept the free vaccination being offered and those that don’t take responsibility for themselves. We can’t eradicate the virus so we will have to accept that the infection rate will be low and the death rate even lower. Similar to the annual and variable number of deaths caused by flu.
Dementia, heart attacks, cancer, strokes are all bigger killers
Dementia, heart attacks, cancer, strokes are all bigger killers
This is difficult, on the one hand having something that ,unless medically unable to, promotes people doing the morally right thing and have a jab is great, other countries will definitely do this. There is also the idea of no jab no job. However, it would be discriminatory against those who can't have the jab. Not the idiots who refuse for no reason (anti vaxxers).
Let's hope we don't need to do this, mainly to avoid having to argue with the swivel eyed nut job vaccine deniers.
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No way will I ever consent to any temporary approved vaccine with dubious efficacy & safety claims, just see the medics write i to BMJ about their concerns.
"I don't always brush my hair but when I do I use a balloon" - Boris Johnson.
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Unworkable and unethical. Gore will waste time and money on this and say not feasible. The only practical use is as an add-on disease to normal overseas travel documents required by other countries. We could require that as well. As to 65million domestic passports, no way! Its a waste of money and most of that money will go to lawyers proving its unlawfully on half a dozen human rights grounds
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I believe those that refuse a vaccine should have be made to wear an armband so we can identify them. We should also not allow them to run businesses in case they infect the vaccinated. We should also herd them into one area to live, and those vaccinated caught fraternising with unvaccinated should have their hair shaved off in public.
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I hope this was sarcasm. If not, we're heading down a dark path.
Even the vaccinated can infect others.
Even the vaccinated can infect others.
Please tell me that is satire...
My son's, all grown up now, regularly used to have to show something which proved their age to get into clubs etc. They didn't find it a problem, ne used to take his passport.
Suppose I run a pub, it's my choice who I let in, no proof of vaccine, sorry go elsewhere.
People saying they can be faked? Of course they can, so can everything else!
Personally I'm quite happy to pay £5 for an official one
Suppose I run a pub, it's my choice who I let in, no proof of vaccine, sorry go elsewhere.
People saying they can be faked? Of course they can, so can everything else!
Personally I'm quite happy to pay £5 for an official one
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I already have a health passport, which was issued by BA. Inside it my doctor has entered and stamped, all my vaccinations, such a yellow fever, which is required before entering some African countries.
People think it is to stop you catching it whilst there but it is because they don't want you brining it in.
I don't see an issue with adding Covid 19 to the list, if countries require it?
People think it is to stop you catching it whilst there but it is because they don't want you brining it in.
I don't see an issue with adding Covid 19 to the list, if countries require it?
I agree, I've put my social life on hold for a year to protect the most at risk. I'm happy to do so as it's obviously the right thing to do. But if they start opening the world and I have to stay at home because I'm at the back of the vaccine queue I'll be in the market for a counterfeit vaccine passport
There are 3 options:
1) pubs open to all
2) pubs shut to all
3) vaccine-based discrimination
If 1 is off the table, surely 3 is preferable to 2 if it means some people (albeit not all) can get back to normal and the economy recovers more quickly. And I say that as someone that would be discriminated against due to where I am in the vaccine queue.
1) pubs open to all
2) pubs shut to all
3) vaccine-based discrimination
If 1 is off the table, surely 3 is preferable to 2 if it means some people (albeit not all) can get back to normal and the economy recovers more quickly. And I say that as someone that would be discriminated against due to where I am in the vaccine queue.
Better than s****ing them!
I want the right to know whether an establishment admits unvaccinated people - I don’t want to visit somewhere that does.
Whether you feel healthy is irrelevant. If you are not vaccinated, you could still spread the virus. More importantly: Your multiplying virus could generate the variant against which the vaccine is ineffective. It is YOUR responsibility not to kill someone. We must eradicate this virus and stop it from multiplying in people and the only way to do this is social isolation of vaccination. End of.
OK...so you'd rather that pubs stay shut for several more months, and that NO-ONE is allowed to go out for a drink, just because you're not allowed to?!
With vaccine passports, pubs could reopen sooner for vaccinated people, and might still be in business for you to join them later.
Without vaccine passports, your local will probably be permanently closed by the time you've had your jab.
With vaccine passports, pubs could reopen sooner for vaccinated people, and might still be in business for you to join them later.
Without vaccine passports, your local will probably be permanently closed by the time you've had your jab.
Plain what your priorities are; the pub is of greatest importance. Can always show your driving licence which is regularly requested as form of ID to show you haven't had it yet due to your age. Or maybe you don't have one since you don't have one since you find a proof of vaccination so abhorrent
This is exactly why we need them until the prevalence of Covid in the population is way down. Otherwise people like you will ignore the "act as if you've got it" guidance, and spread it to others doing the same.
The scenario you paint would indeed be unfair. However, presumably any UK vaccine passport scheme that might be introduced, will only be introduced once everyone has had the chance for a jab, in which case you won't miss out.
There is an easy way to get people to have the vaccine and to carry a certificate. Anyone who gets Covid-19 and does not carry a certificate of vaccination, or an exemption certificate, should be charged the full costs of treatment.
This is about having vaccine passports in order to access a normal life in England. Do you really want to produce ID just to go outside your home? It could come to that.
Im a fairly young guy. I've been locked away and asked to put my life on hold for almost a year now to protect the old. I'm also last in the queue for a vaccine. IF OLD PEOPLE GET TO GO TO THE PUB BEFORE ME, I WILL RIOT. How dare they even suggest this idea. It's one thing for going abroad, but totally another to make wait even longer before resuming our normal life
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Just do it. I don't want to sit next to a virus-spewing anti-vaxxer in the cinema, or on a train.
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This isn't an airport - you don't have to announce your departure
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Why can a soldier of jihad enter Britain with just an inflatable dinghy, yet for strapping healthy people to meet who have zero chance of getting ill whilst everyone else is vaccinated and everyone would require a 'passport'?
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Illegal immigration will continue and we all know brexit hasn't stopped it
That aside we catch illegals and process them including health checks
If we don't catch them it is a problem just like other criminals
Get over it
That aside we catch illegals and process them including health checks
If we don't catch them it is a problem just like other criminals
Get over it
"strapping healthy people to meet who have zero chance of getting ill"
Topical and demonstrates your ignorance:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56153462
Topical and demonstrates your ignorance:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56153462
The Daily Mail HYS is over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Deep & complex issues"
There is nothing deep and complex about living in a totalitarian police state.
Like so much of the lockdown tyranny there is no science behind it & now as we "lift lockdown" we must bring in greater tyranny?
Orwellian
We have always rejected this type of "papers!" society & Churchill stated he was "setting the people free" when they were done away in the 50's after WWII.
There is nothing deep and complex about living in a totalitarian police state.
Like so much of the lockdown tyranny there is no science behind it & now as we "lift lockdown" we must bring in greater tyranny?
Orwellian
We have always rejected this type of "papers!" society & Churchill stated he was "setting the people free" when they were done away in the 50's after WWII.
Nothing forced about it at all. Exercise your right to refuse the vaccine if you wish. However, don't expect the rest of us to pay (via the NHS) for any treatment you need should you subsequently contract it. I am all for personal choice but you have to own the consequences too.
The reason you get posts removed is:
1) you are off topic
2) you use rude words likely to offend all or some of your listeners
3) you distribute fake and dangerous news
4) you libel or defame someone
Shame on you
1) you are off topic
2) you use rude words likely to offend all or some of your listeners
3) you distribute fake and dangerous news
4) you libel or defame someone
Shame on you
Gruw up and go away
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People are asked to prove their age when going to the pub; prove your Identity when accessing services or applying for a job; so what is the problem here. If you have a medical condition that prevents you having the jab then that means sitting by yourself in the corner. If you refuse the vaccine on ANY other grounds then you should be excluded from society, work, benefits, everything.
The real reason against vaccine passports is to privilege the anti vaxxers and BAME refuseniks . The vast majority are being vaccinated without any resistance and there is no discrimination against the refuseniks
It's no coincidence that libertarians are anti-vaxxers because libertarians are dangerously egotistical sociopaths who should have no place in any decent civilization.
Johnson using the word "novel" to describe a proposed police state?
Novel Coronavirus, Novel Tyranny eh Boris?
Previous to the Nazi regime in Germany it was considered "novel" to make Jews & political dissenters wear yellow stars.
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Novel Coronavirus, Novel Tyranny eh Boris?
Previous to the Nazi regime in Germany it was considered "novel" to make Jews & political dissenters wear yellow stars.
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Utter nonsense.
Normally I wouldn't choose to have a vaccine, I have had it as it is not just my beliefs and me to consider. I am not aware of any major belief systems that put the individual ahead of a greater good! Too many self entitled I am the most important person types who think everything revolves around them. Shout out to marketing and media for creating that culture in the uk
drain the scotish swamp
Read the redacted segment of Salmond’s Ministerial Code evidence in full below:
30. The First Minister told Parliament (see Official Report of 8th,10th & 17th January 2019) that she first learned of the complaints against me when I visited her home on 2nd April 2018. That is untrue and is a breach of the Ministerial Code.
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Read the redacted segment of Salmond’s Ministerial Code evidence in full below:
30. The First Minister told Parliament (see Official Report of 8th,10th & 17th January 2019) that she first learned of the complaints against me when I visited her home on 2nd April 2018. That is untrue and is a breach of the Ministerial Code.
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Breaking the Ministerial Code will probably just get ignored by the PM as he did for Priti Patel.
I agree but the proportion of people with a genuine medical reason not to have a vaccine will be vanishingly tiny. Selfish anti-science anti-social idiots who refuse the vaccine are a clear danger to the public health of everyone else on the planet and should absolutely be publicly shamed ridiculed and discriminated against to make them face some consequences of their own choices.
I don't know why people think vaccine certificates would be discriminatory
They'd be given to people who've either had the jab, or who have legit medical reasons for not having it (certified by a doctor etc). It wouldn't have to say which one
The only ones it would "discriminate" against are those who can get a jab but refuse, & I've no issue with such selfish people not being in the pub with me
They'd be given to people who've either had the jab, or who have legit medical reasons for not having it (certified by a doctor etc). It wouldn't have to say which one
The only ones it would "discriminate" against are those who can get a jab but refuse, & I've no issue with such selfish people not being in the pub with me
As today is Wee Jimmie’s final press conference before resigning there should be more of a fanfare on the BBC.
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Why should she resign?
They don't these days
Look at patel
They don't these days
Look at patel
See the Brexit mess has taken a back seat in the press, to the Pandemic, nice diversion for the Gov!
Tell us why our police have been drafted from more than 30 forces across the country including wales,corrnwall in order to be traffic wardens for the brexit mess in kent!
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Tell us why our police have been drafted from more than 30 forces across the country including wales,corrnwall in order to be traffic wardens for the brexit mess in kent!
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What has that got to do with the subject in hand?
My legitimate question was removed for political reasons by the BBC that falsely claim to be impartial. I'll ask again; Why can potential jihadists enter the country with just a rubber dinghy, yet once all the vulnerable are vaccinated healthy 20 year olds will need 'vaccine passports' to go to the pub? It's perverse. Why?
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Its something the the PM has failed to answer and with Gov censorship he is unlikely to answer any time soon.
Because 20 year old still can be carriers of the virus. Get vaccinated and be done with it or are you scared of a teeny weeny needle?
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Except for the hundreds of thousands of people who received the various vaccines during trials across the world, right? My money's on Chezza being alive
Untested? That's absolutely tosh. Stop circulating death inviting garbage!
Oh shoosh! It's been 'tested' on more than 17 million people in the UK already. How did you miss that?
"totally untested"??? 100,000's were in the testing programs and millions have now been vaccinated over the past 3 months or so. Where is your evidence that the vaccines cause a problem - please do share
.... still waiting
.... still waiting
And you may not be around next year if you haven’t had it
How can you lie and claim "totally untested vaccine" when you know that is untrue? Why are you doing it? Is it just because you are scared and don't understand? Have you been following the science of these vaccine developments? Are you aware of all the testing that has been done - and published for anyone to analyse?
Or are you just waving your tin-foil-hat?
Or are you just waving your tin-foil-hat?
See wee eck has published the PM's (Whoops SNP) roadmap.
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Why are there so many mingers in UK?
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Your mum's a minger
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Remember how much you paid for your 'normal' passport? I expect there will be a similar whopping charge for the 'Covid passport'.
And of course the price will be bumped up a bit more to cover the cost of giving free ones to the usual underdeprived groups who will be exempted from the charge.
In other words, here comes another massive stealth tax on respectable middle-income taxpayers.
And of course the price will be bumped up a bit more to cover the cost of giving free ones to the usual underdeprived groups who will be exempted from the charge.
In other words, here comes another massive stealth tax on respectable middle-income taxpayers.
World Travel do we need it, Magulle in his Spanish hotel has not interest on how much he costs the NHS when you get back, same with the greedy Airline bosses. Also if Little Jimmie Krankie is so on the pulse, why is she 24hrs behind Westminster. telling Scotland how there going to survive.... yet dont do anything to survive....
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My legitimate question was removed for political reasons by the BBC that falsely claim to be impartial. I'll ask again; Why can potential jihadists enter the country with just a rubber dinghy, yet once all the vulnerable are vaccinated healthy 20 year olds will need 'vaccine passports' to go to the pub? It's perverse. Why?
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Anyone choosing not to be vaccinated should be shot.
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Just like you should be for making the most simple-minded, moronic, uneducated, extremely childish, totally insane and imbecilic comment of the day on this site.
If you are NOT able to post anything that is decent, sensible and constructive then DO NOT post anything at all.
If you are NOT able to post anything that is decent, sensible and constructive then DO NOT post anything at all.
Isn't it amazing how the intellectual & moral cowards who haunt these boards now conflate being anti fascist police state for Britain with being "anti vax"
That cognitive dissonance is a prerequisite to supporting a policy that would legally mean we were forced to inject any substance the Gov saw fit into our veins or be disenfranchised from society to the point of it being impossible to live.
That cognitive dissonance is a prerequisite to supporting a policy that would legally mean we were forced to inject any substance the Gov saw fit into our veins or be disenfranchised from society to the point of it being impossible to live.
ffs it's the flu. If you're so scared of it you'd rather have an untested vaccine do so. You're safe now right so what's your problem if I'm not dirtying my pants and don't need the vaccine and don't want the vaccine? Fear based mind control, remarkably effective but not everyone is susceptible.
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What is discriminatory is Norther Ireland and Scotland being dragged out of the EU by a shrjnking little england
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Why does Wales get a free pass?
What???
Irrelevant garbage
Irrelevant garbage
Wanna bet?
Why are there so many mingers in UK?
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Sorry - why does the BBC have an article about Scotland as their top article? Oh sorry I forgot. They live up the SNPs' fundament
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What is next? Implant a microchip in my brain that stores all my data...when I eat, what I eat, what I buy, when I sleep, where I am, who I am with....ffs welcome to 1984
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There are weirdos out there who honestly believe that you got a microchip implanted with your vaccination. Far easier to get a barcode tattooed on your forehead.
Bet you have a phone though. You'll find that collects far more about you than a silly vaccine passport.
Not content with grassing up their younger neighbour, the stazi boomers now want a passport to freedom in order to gain an unfair advantage over us. I can see what will happen, 'Your papers please' on every street corner, 'But zis vill not do, you are not allowed zee fresh air, it iz rezerved for zoze named Nigel'.
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Typical response from someone who only cares about themselves.
Watch someone die from this and then tell me this isn't needed.
Watch someone die from this and then tell me this isn't needed.
Andrew, every time you log onto the net, do a banking transaction, visit the GP, dentist, or hospital, travel abroad, pay road tax (pay ANY tax), use the phone, access electricity, water & gas, etc...
You already have to metaphorically 'show your papers.' Our identity profile is checked 10s of times every day already.
You already have to metaphorically 'show your papers.' Our identity profile is checked 10s of times every day already.
You're suggesting it's boomers, when I'd put a bet on the main people advocating it are much younger. Probably 20 year old arts graduates, who once identified as Communist.
Matt Hancock was found to have broken the Law recently but just stuck two fingers up at the Judges, yet he expects everyone else to obey his every word, he is a cheap imitation of a human being
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Data + Control + Coercion
Data - Know more about you and your movement
Control - do as you are told
Coercion - if you don't you may not be able to.....
travel, vote, work, protest????
Data - Know more about you and your movement
Control - do as you are told
Coercion - if you don't you may not be able to.....
travel, vote, work, protest????
People should be forced to supply their height and weight when booking a plane ticket and pay an amount equal to the fuel that is burnt and space taken up.
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Only if they are given the corresponding amount of space required on the flight....
And stop classing small suitcases with wheels as 'hand luggage'. It's not - it's a small suitcase with wheels.
Latest polls: CON 41% LAB 36%
Exolain that, Comrade Remoaner
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It’s an established fact remainers couldn’t be bothered to vote but can be bothered to moan and cry ??
An even smaller minority than in the GE now support the Tories. Probably because they're doing such a bad job.
You belive polls ONLY when it suits
Not long ago you were saying they were nonsense
Not long ago you were saying they were nonsense
All your posts are the same? They add nothing to the conversation. If you wish to lick Johnsons "nipsey" then, do it in your own private time.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with travel. “Passport” is merely clever/specific terminology used to hide the fact you’ll have to prove who you are (and your health status) to even enter a shop.
Truly terrifying dystopian stuff.
Truly terrifying dystopian stuff.
Why dont gay men have a gay passport for aids?
why dont we have a passport for flu jab?
Ignorant and short sighted!
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why dont we have a passport for flu jab?
Ignorant and short sighted!
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As I keep saying, this isn't just about what the UK and the UK government wants, but if you're happy to never go abroad again....don't participate.
Don't worry, Remoaners, lefties & Liberals.
You can just refuse to apply for a "Tory ID card" and stay at home and sulk because you can#t gp anywhere
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You’d have thought the Farage Demographic would have been all in favour of Passports....
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Must be very confusing discovering that not everybody fits into your apparently narrow band of definitions.
Passports/ID cards for immigrants should be incredibly popular amongst The Gammon Wing of The BrexitClown Party.....strange that quite a few seem so precious about their personal freedoms.
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Rough day at work today but the HYS has cheered me right up. Funniest thing in ages.
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Just do it. I don't want to sit next to a virus-spewing anti-vaxxer in the cinema, or on a train.
Tin foil is on sale in tescos!
Great to see the usual jealous remarks on HYS about 'older people' and their mega pensions. Remember jealous younger people you only get what you work for, you don't get a private pension for free you have to have saved into it usually all of your working life and most importantly you all will be old one day.
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This topics seems to have stirred up the covidiots. Ha ha ha ha
Suck it up covidiots.
Suck it up covidiots.
When the vast majority of people have been vaccinated they will insist that public places check for the passports otherwise they'll refuse to enter.
The passports will be required to be checked because of public pressure.
Suck it up covidiots.
The passports will be required to be checked because of public pressure.
Suck it up covidiots.
Perhaps they should be forced to wear a badge so we can recognise them - you know, like they did in Germany in the 1930s.
@Forward Thinker PhD
"Bottomline, you WILL get the jab, you WILL get a vaccine passport or you will pay the price. Simple. Man up!"
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Does not sound like this is very forward thinking to me, sounds more like something from Germany in the 1940s.
"Bottomline, you WILL get the jab, you WILL get a vaccine passport or you will pay the price. Simple. Man up!"
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Does not sound like this is very forward thinking to me, sounds more like something from Germany in the 1940s.
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The not so thin edge of a 'nazi' wedge. Seriously this is what people think is a good idea? Vaccine certificates for all e.g people under 30 who are at little risk, complete & utter madness...the old, who should anyway have been vaccinated to protect themselves, being whipped up to be scared of the young, no logic at all.
Sorry, but this will be the usual one size fits all uk approach
@Squonky
"You have the freedom of choice to have or refuse the vaccine. But those who refuse will have to live with that "free" choice. You will not be going abroad on holiday and many jobs will be out of your reach. A pub owner or shop can refuse anyone they like to enter their premises if they pose a risk to health and safety."
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The vaccinated can also carry and transmit Covid-19.
"You have the freedom of choice to have or refuse the vaccine. But those who refuse will have to live with that "free" choice. You will not be going abroad on holiday and many jobs will be out of your reach. A pub owner or shop can refuse anyone they like to enter their premises if they pose a risk to health and safety."
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The vaccinated can also carry and transmit Covid-19.
You can tell this is the only HYS available tonight. Come in BBC, stop protecting Nicola and her complete joke of a ‘Route Map’ - if Boris had delivered that there would have been uproar!
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I count 28
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Perhaps a badge or a patch of some description could be worn by those who haven't recieved a vaccine for whatever reason. Perhaps two overlaid equilateral triangles in yellow would suffice.
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Or a number tattooed on their arm. Haven't we been here before?
Don't people show ID when they buy alcohol or cigarettes? Why is this different?
your satire will go far above the heads of the many on here
fascist bully boy pig conspiracy !!
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idiot!
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I can see the logic for travel because it's some way towards a guarantee that you won't be a drain on another country's medical resources. For UK businesses and venues it doesn't make any sense. If those who can and want to be vaccinated mingle with those who can't or won't, it's still the UNvaccinated at risk, not those who've had the jab. What's the point of it otherwise? Total lack of logic!
What is a covidiot exactly? I'm not sure. Is it someone who breaks the covid rules? Or a lockdown skeptic? Or an anti-vaxxer? Or someone who thinks covid is 10x worse than ebola and thinks we should voluntarily give up all our civil rights, liberties, freedom, life, and stay under house arrest indefinitely to satisfy the gov project fear hysteria to cover for their blunders?
Lot of snowflakes on here.
It's quite simple, you decide if you want the jab, you decide if you want a passport and you deal with the consequences when you can't do what you want.
It's quite simple, you decide if you want the jab, you decide if you want a passport and you deal with the consequences when you can't do what you want.
London is named top city in the WORLD to invest in as LA plummets in global league
revealed by financial giant Schroders.
Post-Brexit London Ranked #1 In World SMASHING Project Fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LG1f3nRbwM
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Post-Brexit London Ranked #1 In World SMASHING Project Fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LG1f3nRbwM
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Top city in the world for stabbings more like
A youtube video of Farage as a credible source of information? ??
This man giving financial advise to people, being the man that places a £10,000 bet on Trump getting voted back in. ????????????????
Too funny, dope.
This man giving financial advise to people, being the man that places a £10,000 bet on Trump getting voted back in. ????????????????
Too funny, dope.
If you can survive Covid that is....
That's why Amsterdam is pipping London out, and the EU is withdrawing trade to work in Euros, blunting the City.
But sure. YouTube. ??
But sure. YouTube. ??
No such card exists. It was suggested we had an ID card similar to Spain which could've replaced both passport an drivers license and saved us £billions in admin.
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If a vaccine passport becomes mandatory to participate in domestic life, then the government and all those who support the implementation of this idea are scum.
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Nobody is asking to see your certificate at the door to your home. Unless your other half wants to make sure you're not virus-y...
I think you will find its the other way round
Youngsters have had to show proof of age when buying alcohol for many years, a covid passport is no different.
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Don't run yourself down so.
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Utter garbage nonsense. Anaphylactic shock sufferers are not covidiots, but I suspect you are.
one thing you can be certain of is if the criminal tory party bring in covid passports you wont get one they will be purely for the rich and tory morons no plebs or swivel eyed loons allowed. It will just be another way of keeping the uk in servitude and how long before they also say you cant vote without one and no you still cant have one. tories started in rotten boroughs and never left
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Dave
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What a disturbing thread.
I'll say it again in simpler terms for those who don't seem to 'get it'.
Whether I am vaccinated or not, I will not be carrying or owning any piece of paper or passport type documentation
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My Employer is asking all staff to send in a scan of any paperwork showing they have been vaccinated so they can "hold it on record".
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What a disturbing thread.
I'll say it again in simpler terms for those who don't seem to 'get it'.
Whether I am vaccinated or not, I will not be carrying or owning any piece of paper or passport type documentation
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My Employer is asking all staff to send in a scan of any paperwork showing they have been vaccinated so they can "hold it on record".
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Youngsters have had to show proof of age when buying alcohol for many years, a covid passport is no different.
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Covidiots remind me of the Rifle Club supporters in the States, they want to right to kill others unhindered.
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You need a Licence to ...
a) watch TV in the UK
b) go fishing (in Germany you need to pass a test as well)
c) to drive a car (also requires a test)
d) to Produce a Human Being ? ... No Licence or Test required.
Go Figure
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You need a Licence to ...
a) watch TV in the UK
b) go fishing (in Germany you need to pass a test as well)
c) to drive a car (also requires a test)
d) to Produce a Human Being ? ... No Licence or Test required.
Go Figure
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"d) to Produce a Human Being ? ... No Licence or Test required."
Boris has passed that test about 20 times already.
Boris has passed that test about 20 times already.
But their not forcing you to put crap into your body are they? Go figure.
e) To be elected to political office - also no licence or test required.
Madness!!!
Madness!!!
Youngsters have had to show proof of age when buying alcohol for many years, a covid passport is no different.
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The covidiots seem to be rather agitated about something this evening, ha ha ha
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Unfortunately illegal migrants, bogus refugees and asylum seekers continue to illegally enter UK with high proportion acting as conduit for covid variants.
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From many psychological assessments of the general public:
Narcissistic people believe they should be able to do what they want, no matter how it affects others.
Narcissistic people have less empathy.
Narcissistic people have a hard time believing anyone knows better than they do.
Anti-vaxxers in a nutshell.
Narcissistic people believe they should be able to do what they want, no matter how it affects others.
Narcissistic people have less empathy.
Narcissistic people have a hard time believing anyone knows better than they do.
Anti-vaxxers in a nutshell.
"For the first time in many years I will not be voting Labour at the council elections in May"
Same. First time in my life
Who except a far right loon would go near a polling station?
If Starmer wanted to keep seats he would demand a postal vote option for all
But he does not want Labour councillors
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Same. First time in my life
Who except a far right loon would go near a polling station?
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But he does not want Labour councillors
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You beat me to it. I shall be voting for the most Fascist party I can find. At least we shall be English.
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Vote for me, I'll collectivize the farms, nationalize the commanding heights of the economy, and legalize urinating in hedgerows. Vote for Jiminy Fluffer and the Stuntcocks at the next election!
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postal voting
"For the first time in many years I will not be voting Labour at the council elections in May"
Same. First time in my life
Who except a far right loon would go near a polling station?
If Starmer wanted to keep seats he would demand a postal vote option for all
But he does not want Labour councillors
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Same. First time in my life
Who except a far right loon would go near a polling station?
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Vaccine should be enforced.Benefits stopped ,massive fines if refuse.Entry to public events refused and forced to self isolate .
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
Vaccine should be enforced.Benefits stopped ,massive fines if refuse.Entry to public events refused and forced to self isolate .
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
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Vaccine should be enforced.Benefits stopped ,massive fines if refuse.Entry to public events refused and forced to self isolate .
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
Strong words?
Tell that to the too many grieving families, business owners whose income decimated and our ICU nurse heroes. Still going through hell on a daily basis.
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Report on our shores being invaded by low IQ fighting age West Africans ( that get put up in 4 star hotels ) will ye. Oh ye can't, it's the BBC. #gowokegobroke. Keep putting young British women ( British ) in the firing line ( for rape ), the men of these shores will do something about it #scummedia
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If you trouble to consult the Lancet or BMJ you will see that evidence for preventing transmission of Sars-cov-2 by these novel emergency approved vaccines has not been confirmed and so vaccine passports would be pointless. At best they attenuate symptoms of Cov-19, folk can still pass it on even vaccinated. Does anyone in the BBC propaganda department ever read a medical journal?
Hardy
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“If we are going to restrict people's freedom to pressure them blah blah
Male circumcision reduces the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, urinary tract infections, and penile cancer. Why not require men to have a circumcision passport to enter pubs, nightclubs, cinemas, restaurants.”
You & your other half may believe STDs are caught from toilet seats ... but it ain’t true.
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19:45
“If we are going to restrict people's freedom to pressure them blah blah
Male circumcision reduces the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, urinary tract infections, and penile cancer. Why not require men to have a circumcision passport to enter pubs, nightclubs, cinemas, restaurants.”
You & your other half may believe STDs are caught from toilet seats ... but it ain’t true.
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... so don’t kiss me Hardy.....
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Folks you have all been taken in by these shysters, the vaccines do not have full regulatory approval. for a start. MHRA are responding to my set of detailed questions on why not full approval and why over 20,000 adverse reactions logged for each vaccine, some being very nasty indeed. I am only prepared to consent to a vaccine with full regulatory approval. I am not a Guinea Pig.
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AGREED!
Let's see your qualifications to form an opinion on this. Meanwhile i'll stick with the MHRA
nope
City of London to stay as finance centre of Europe post-Brexit!
1,000 EU Firms To OPEN Offices In Brexit UK
18 million covid jabs administered in the UK
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Currently Still #1 in Europe
BUT Since 2016 when the U.K. voted to leave the EU the City is believed to have shed around 10,000 posts
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City of London to stay as finance centre of Europe post-Brexit!
1,000 EU Firms To OPEN Offices In Brexit UK
18 million covid jabs administered in the UK
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Currently Still #1 in Europe
BUT Since 2016 when the U.K. voted to leave the EU the City is believed to have shed around 10,000 posts
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Many posts gone to India very cheap educated English speaking labour.
Some satellite offices to Amsterdam with few dozen staff.
Nobody wants to go to Germany dull financial centre or Paris either.
Some satellite offices to Amsterdam with few dozen staff.
Nobody wants to go to Germany dull financial centre or Paris either.
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Come on Pinocchio where are you?
The fantasist who still thinks we are part of the EU lol. Dave the doughnut
Moron!!
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The fantasist who still thinks we are part of the EU lol. Dave the doughnut
Moron!!
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Hardy
19:45
“If we are going to restrict people's freedom to pressure them blah blah
Male circumcision reduces the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, urinary tract infections, and penile cancer. Why not require men to have a circumcision passport to enter pubs, nightclubs, cinemas, restaurants.”
You & your other half may believe STDs are caught from toilet seats ... but it ain’t true.
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19:45
“If we are going to restrict people's freedom to pressure them blah blah
Male circumcision reduces the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, urinary tract infections, and penile cancer. Why not require men to have a circumcision passport to enter pubs, nightclubs, cinemas, restaurants.”
You & your other half may believe STDs are caught from toilet seats ... but it ain’t true.
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My hatred for the concept of Brexit has moved further to extremes.
I now despise anyone who voted for it.
I now despise anyone who voted for it.
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BBC censoring comments again ??
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Well done have a biscuit. Good dog
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Karin. Karen more like
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A lot of people are worrying about trivia like holidays and getting into pubs. The fact is that we are in a pandemic and given how we are treating our planet and the species we share it with the next one is just round the corner. Our species is running is of road but still all we get from people is same old trvial nonsense.
Why no HYS on the assault on democracy taking place before our eyes in Scotland ?
Salmond evidence is being excluded from the hearing by Mr & Mrs Murell and their lackeys to protect their positions.
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I think a covid passport sounds like a good idea. If nothing else it will keep people who refuse getting vaccinated at home so they won't contribute to spreading disease abroad.
Of course, some people coughbrexiteerscough won't be traveling abroad anyway, wot?
Of course, some people coughbrexiteerscough won't be traveling abroad anyway, wot?
There’s definitely an irony that xenophobic Brexies who, having agitated to get out of Europe and now are agitating about the troublesome Union, will soon be agitating about “furriners” from another county, then another town, then another street.
And eventually, they’ll want rid of anybody not from their own house; basically lockdown.
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Are you from the U.K.? My Bulgarian & Rumanian neighbours spell better than you, I can also have a decent conversation with them, yes is the English is broken here & there, but we definitely get there in the end, I doubt I could ever get to that point with you.
Cancel all passports. Far simpler. No need for anyone to go abroad so no need for silly vaccine passports. Few months, half a year and all who wan5 will have been done anyway. Time gov gets any silly system up,and working it will not be wanted anyway.
here come the fat terrorist's lies.. MAY need a covid passport. May this, may that. Sunak is to extend furlough to July. The vermin in government have no intention of ending lockdown. You are being royally played. WAKE UP AND RISE UP against the tyranny while you still can!
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Calm down, its a vaccine not a communist conspiracy.
You are no doubt alive and healthy today because you had several vaccines as a child.
A record of this is available to both you and the government.
Adding a covid19 entry to you records is not the end.
You are no doubt alive and healthy today because you had several vaccines as a child.
A record of this is available to both you and the government.
Adding a covid19 entry to you records is not the end.
Entertaining, but totally nonsense!
Just as anti vaxers have the right to refuse the vaccine so to should society have the right to refuse them access.
Similar to the smoking ban, venues should have the right to chose if they wish to be vaccinated only venues or not.
Similar to the smoking ban, venues should have the right to chose if they wish to be vaccinated only venues or not.
It’s ok, the issue will sort itself out soon enough, what with the unvaccinated catching Covid & being more likely to get severe illness than those that are vaccinated.
The unvaccinated will die off soon. In the meantime if they refuse the vaccine maybe we should charge them for any Covid related hospital treatment they need, seen as it could have been prevented.
The unvaccinated will die off soon. In the meantime if they refuse the vaccine maybe we should charge them for any Covid related hospital treatment they need, seen as it could have been prevented.
Reading the comments on here I cannot believe how many people are frightened to have a little bit of paper to say they have had a vaccination. The only people who would say no are those who don't want to have the vaccine. Nothing to do with big brother. Get a vaccine, get a passport, get a life.
It’s ok, the issue will sort itself out soon enough, what with the unvaccinated catching Covid & being more likely to get severe illness than those that are vaccinated.
The unvaccinated will die off soon. In the meantime if they refuse the vaccine maybe we should charge them for any Covid related hospital treatment they need, seen as it could have been prevented.
The unvaccinated will die off soon. In the meantime if they refuse the vaccine maybe we should charge them for any Covid related hospital treatment they need, seen as it could have been prevented.
Us unvaccinated non mask wearers firstly don’t get Covid and two wouldn't trust the NHS again apart from working for it.
I take it you’d also be opposed to the NHS treating obese people, smokers, sports injuries, or anyone else unhealthy enough to need treatment.
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Why is it discriminatory? The discrimination would apply if, those who havent taken the vaccine, are allowed into venues, thus putting those who have, in a situation where they might be infected, despite the vaccination as, vaccines are never 100% reliable! The fact that you can prove you are not a hazard to others, also proves that you have the decency to protect others!
No doubt the woke will say its anto freedom. What a load of trash. Thise who refuse the vaccine sould now be fined £10k and if they refuse a second time, an immediate 28 days in prison along with a criminal record for attenpted murder.
Time we did have vaccine certification, if the gov don't issue ne no doubt the tarvel Insurers will mandate it or make travel insurance void
Time we did have vaccine certification, if the gov don't issue ne no doubt the tarvel Insurers will mandate it or make travel insurance void
I'm not going to be getting an I.D. card based on vaccination. Where does it stop? If you accept that confidential medical information can be used as the basis for denying freedom of movement, employment, medical treatment, insurance etc. etc. Next, they'll be demanding we are all tattooed on the wrist and wear a yellow star on our tunics.
Rob
“Things are getting worse with this paranoid society health and safety gone crazy vaccines for life passport to go with it probably a biometric microchip”
Yeah... what was wrong with the good ol’ days when polio was rife? All these highfalutin’ vaccines. It’s ‘elf & safety gone mad, it is! ????
“Things are getting worse with this paranoid society health and safety gone crazy vaccines for life passport to go with it probably a biometric microchip”
Yeah... what was wrong with the good ol’ days when polio was rife? All these highfalutin’ vaccines. It’s ‘elf & safety gone mad, it is! ????
It's surprising that this article allows reader comments but news of the ongoing scandal engulfing Sturgeon and the SNP in Edinburgh is hardly given the time of day by BBC News, One might deduce that the coercive manipulation and mendacity the leader of the Scottish "government" (aka "conspiracy") has demonstrated is something the BBC does not want to publicise.
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I suspect you will be removed. I questioned earlier today why no HYS on the Scottish roadmap and it was taken down
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The BBC has probably been warned that the Scottish play is bound to end up in court. they wouldn't want to prejudice Nicola's trial, would they??
I fail to see how this is relevant to the topic. I hope you have a good lawyer - accusing the FM of what you do is outrageous.
It's surprising that this article allows reader comments but news of the ongoing scandal engulfing Sturgeon and the SNP in Edinburgh is hardly given the time of day by BBC News, One might deduce that the coercive manipulation and mendacity the leader of the Scottish "government" (aka "conspiracy") has demonstrated is something the BBC does not want to publicise.
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http://blog.iwan1979.com/2021/02/windows-10-update-disaster-microsoft.html Windows 10 Update disaster.
Well folks, fixing it made the problem 100 times worse
Wait for the disaster to unfold - IT will be immense and of the order of Covid.
Never rains but it pours. Trouble always comes in threes.
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http://blog.iwan1979.com/2021/02/windows-10-update-disaster-microsoft.html Windows 10 Update disaster.
Well folks, fixing it made the problem 100 times worse
Wait for the disaster to unfold - IT will be immense and of the order of Covid.
Never rains but it pours. Trouble always comes in threes.
Microsofts OS model is recipe for disaster. It has arrived. Nothing anyone can do. Removed
Following alert on Windows 10 woes - a few may have heard of the Sunburst Hack which no one understood or understands beyond it being impossible to detect.
It is the product of .NET techology. The bit no one is mentioning - it is everywhere just sitting there. https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2020/12/sunburst-additional-technical-details.html .net regularly updates itself. Removed
It is the product of .NET techology. The bit no one is mentioning - it is everywhere just sitting there. https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2020/12/sunburst-additional-technical-details.html .net regularly updates itself. Removed
Do not remove
http://blog.iwan1979.com/2021/02/windows-10-update-disaster-microsoft.html Windows 10 Update disaster.
Well folks, fixing it made the problem 100 times worse
Wait for the disaster to unfold - IT will be immense and of the order of Covid.
Never rains but it pours. Trouble always comes in threes.
Microsofts OS model is recipe for disaster. It has arrived. Nothing anyone can do. Removed
http://blog.iwan1979.com/2021/02/windows-10-update-disaster-microsoft.html Windows 10 Update disaster.
Well folks, fixing it made the problem 100 times worse
Wait for the disaster to unfold - IT will be immense and of the order of Covid.
Never rains but it pours. Trouble always comes in threes.
Microsofts OS model is recipe for disaster. It has arrived. Nothing anyone can do. Removed
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, the gammony covidiots don't like this do they eh....
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For the record I'd put everything I own on the mainstream media not reporting the truth about covid 19 origin, china, trump and US election, Epstein and his friends in power, Biden, Clinton and Obama._. The list is endless.
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If you have been vaccinated ? Why oh why are you worried about the people who are not - surely you got the vaccine in the belief it will protect you .
It is a very slippery slope to exclude people because of their values - Covid ID , then what , criminalised if you don’t get a jab .
If you been vaccinated why are you worried ?
It is a very slippery slope to exclude people because of their values - Covid ID , then what , criminalised if you don’t get a jab .
If you been vaccinated why are you worried ?
And there you have it so desperate to have the freedoms you had anyway you will sign away this freedom just so we can have the non vaccinated outed. Why not get them tattooed?
I have no problem with you getting vaccinated , but you seem to have a huge problem with my choice of not getting vaccinated .
People refusing a vaccine for no good reason aren't worthy of this great country and should be excluded from it.
The traitors.
The traitors.
This is not a situation where one play games of personal ideologies peoples lives are potentially at stake. Put simply unless one has a GENUINE under lying medical condition which prevents one from receiving this vaccination it is absolutely unbelievable anyone should not do so. However any one who does misguidedly refuse the "jab" must be prepared to suffer the consequences of their decision!