Lockdown: 'England has better vision for easing lockdown'
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Pub landlord Paul Slater says he is frustrated at the lack of information from the Welsh Government.
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I dread to think what is coming for businesses over the next year or so. Only then are we likely to see the true devastating impact coronavirus policies have had on our economy. I hope I am wrong.
Mark Drakeford is a socialist, he wants you to be dependent on the state
Of course Brexit has not had any effect on the Welsh economy, a Tory policy. It's jut starting and will be far worse than the economic effects of Covid.
Drakeford refuses to provide proper information to the people of Wales unlike the situation in England. They can plan for business re-opening, booking holidays and meeting friends in outdoor facilities. Drakeford has not done this.
Agree, Drakeford's priority is just trying to score political points , which maybe OK outside of a pandemic but we are in one. So, he needs to get a grip and provide people with some route out of yet another lockdown.
err, no they can't. the dates are just a wish list.
Data not dates - so no plan in essence. Boris & co can say what ever date sounds good to the public only to change minds when data doesn't back it up!
What sort of roadmap is that?
What sort of roadmap is that?
He is totally unable to take a decision or to plan ahead. All of the plans for England are contingent on no further bad upsurge in the virus. With the very good results for vaccination in terms of stopping serious illness and transmission both here, and, more significantly, in Israel where most people have already had vaccination, it is high time to stand up to this tyrant and be able to do more.
All this plan is subject to controlling a virus which is not going to be easy. Far better accept a situation where each step is carefully studied before implementation than bowing to a party pressure group and a press reliant on adverts for holidays, drinking, and restaurants. Boris will watch the tide come in even if it looks like a tsunami having placed his bets.
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You know what they say, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
when power is in the hands of a few despots it is very hard to relinquish that power.
Yup the Tories know all about that, spot on.
Dripford has a golden opportunity to at last show some leadership,open up all the various outlets earlier than the uk government.give welsh people and businesses the chance to be winners for once.give us our lives back,in particular allow all holidays open by Easter.this is his chance,especially with the May elections coming up
you have not lost your life, although thanks to the Tories 120 000 people have.
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Drakeford is planning another lockdown later this year while Boris talks about potential freedoms by June if they are all following the science then what is going on.? It’s clear now that WG have abandoned the requirements to move down the tiers as published in December as we should be in tier 2/3 now. I
He can't do it if we vote them out!!!
Drakeford isn't "planning another lockdown", he's just sensibly not making any false promises.
Watched Gething on TV last night - Appalling & Feeble with no positivity what so ever. Sick of this non 4 nation UK approach to lifting measures.
People of Wales have the chance to remove the Bay Buffoons in May. At least Johnson has given the English people are roadmap - Drakeford will not do that for the Welsh Nation, just because he can!
People of Wales have the chance to remove the Bay Buffoons in May. At least Johnson has given the English people are roadmap - Drakeford will not do that for the Welsh Nation, just because he can!
Yet still far better at protecting the public than the Tories.
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people can sign this petition https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/571087 if they wish to see something change with how wales is run
people can sign this petition https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/571087 if they wish to see something change with how wales is run
The only solution!
ABOLISH THE ASSEMBLY!
ABOLISH THE ASSEMBLY!
He is rubbish. And weak if gething had his way he would keep us in till next year . No way iam staying in after march my family need me and I need to travel say wot you like drakeford. We have done everything you has asked march iam off out sorry . Family first
Do we really want a more lethal varient emerging? No we don't and sadly until the minority of selfish people follow the rules we are doomed to lockdown. There are still families and friends meeting up outside when they shouldn't and people making no effort to distance.
Listen bedwetter stay at home forever where you think it’s safe there is a growing number of people who want our lives back. Variants you talk about like the SA one where there is no lockdown and cases have nose dived it’s all a smokescreen wake up.
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The lights are on, but as per usual no ones home
No, they've gone out for a coffee and chat with mates.
We are a single country - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - and all major decisions should be made in Westminster where every part of the UK is represented by an MP. The devolved governments of Scotland and Wales are a total waste of money with second-rate politicians simply wasting taxpayer's money and being as disruptive as possible. ABOLISH DEVOLVED GOVERMENT.
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Why don't you just move to England then if you want to be run by the English? Don't pretend a handful of Welsh MPs have any say in how this country (Wales) is run.
It was a vanity project keep the champagne socialist smiler Blair in power. That worked out well eh?
Drakeford is planning another lockdown later this year while Boris talks about potential freedoms by June if they are all following the science then what is going on.? It’s clear now that WG have abandoned the requirements to move down the tiers as published in December as we should be in tier 2/3 now. I
Which we won’t
We can only hope but I fear Labour will get in power again, people are afraid of change.
You got it is one. IF
Dripford was palnning to quit/retire this year anyway.
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Make a mess of the health service while health minister, make a mess while first minister then bugger off and claim a pension courtesy of the tax payers Removed
Yes, essential to vote tactically for whoever is most likely to kick the Socialist crew out in your constituency and area.
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
It’s not though is it. Cases Rapidly tumbling. Vaccine 80% + plus effective.
From the evidence in your post, what we are doing is clearly not working.
Your solution: do more of it!
Your solution: do more of it!
I am not a business owner but if I was, my business is more important. We can no longer fear a virus that has gone from being not very dangerous to most people (SAGE's words before the COVIDIOT slur comes out) to being even less dangerous to everyone.
People cry out to keep schools closed yet from Jan 2020 to now there has been ZERO deaths from Covid in the ages of 0 to 14 compared to 167 of other causes. We need to careful but people need to live also.
We not asking to go completely out of lockdown all in one go. What we want is a plan on how we open up Wales in sensible steps like England as done & Scotland will do to today
Do we really want a more lethal varient emerging? No we don't and sadly until the minority of selfish people follow the rules we are doomed to lockdown. There are still families and friends meeting up outside when they shouldn't and people making no effort to distance.
The UK ahs been a socialist country since before your time. The NHS is the most socialist project in the world. Tin foil hat off please.
no he's a socialist and thinks the state should micro manage our lives
Do we really want a more lethal varient emerging? No we don't and sadly until the minority of selfish people follow the rules we are doomed to lockdown. There are still families and friends meeting up outside when they shouldn't and people making no effort to distance.
Will it be orange ?
Looking at the behaviour of some people in supermarket, they should be shut.
Small non-essential retailers could and would probably apply guidance and rules better. Instead online retailers have carved an hole into our high streets which will never recover.
Small non-essential retailers could and would probably apply guidance and rules better. Instead online retailers have carved an hole into our high streets which will never recover.
What do you sell in your shop?
He can't do it if we vote them out!!!
He can't do it if we vote them out!!!
No we look at RT Davies and think no way
North Wales place like Wrexham even Bridgend did. Midlands did it. Northeast did it. Even to my shock.
The Welsh voter should be more concerned with what a Tory party would do to Wales if they were to get in. Time and time again they have not shown to have the peoples best interest at heart. Labour may not be an A1 Government but they do their best with what they are given. As with any Government, mistakes are made but the count is no-where as high as Westminster.
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Yes, cases are rapidly tumbling. But, a year in, how did they get so high- again?
We've all been armed with all we need to know from day one, but cases are now tumbling from a much higher point than the first peak. It's a bit embarrassing that so many people are that selfish in this country.
Today's deaths- hundreds- are the result from catching the virus this last month, not last year.
We've all been armed with all we need to know from day one, but cases are now tumbling from a much higher point than the first peak. It's a bit embarrassing that so many people are that selfish in this country.
Today's deaths- hundreds- are the result from catching the virus this last month, not last year.
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Clearly some of the people posting here are retired, public sector or don't have to run a business or pays staff.....nobody is rushing anything as far as I can see...quite the opposite in fact....government is about getting the balance right and i'm afraid we have to open up now and trust the vaccines to do their work, or there will always be some reason not to do it.
Look at the age of the poeple giving the science of are in charge of the decision making. They are all old or at risk. All the others are guaranteed their pay packet whether they work or not.
yet those that suffered the least economically were the ones that locked down early and hard. The facts don't fit your ideology.
Labour failure they berry they heads in the sand and hope the problem will go away, 21 years of labour power and look at wales today.
Mark Drakeford is a socialist, he wants you to be dependent on the state
I think you have got it on
the Uk is far from socialist. It’s centrist maybe now centre right.
Mark Drakeford wants Venezuela in Wales
Mark Drakeford wants Venezuela in Wales
We are a single country - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - and all major decisions should be made in Westminster where every part of the UK is represented by an MP. The devolved governments of Scotland and Wales are a total waste of money with second-rate politicians simply wasting taxpayer's money and being as disruptive as possible. ABOLISH DEVOLVED GOVERMENT.
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We are a single country - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - and all major decisions should be made in Westminster where every part of the UK is represented by an MP. The devolved governments of Scotland and Wales are a total waste of money with second-rate politicians simply wasting taxpayer's money and being as disruptive as possible. ABOLISH DEVOLVED GOVERMENT.
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Nedd. You could not make it up. Even as a stage play, no one could believe it would make a farce to be put on public airing. It is far worse than,"Yes Minister" and we know that was a parody. The sooner Mr Bumble and his incompetents are shown their P45's the better the people of Wales will be. Nedd's motto, "Let's be as devisive as possible just to be as ornery as possible".
Does Blobis even have a P45......................
BIN Labour In wales is the only answer REMEMBER THE SHAMBLES NEXT TIME YOU Vote.
Oh yes, Tories in UK govt have a done a fine job! Highest death rate in Europe, Billions wasted on friends. Wales have been clearer and more cautious.
careful what you ask for
the major shambles is the current Conservative 'leadership'
Wales might get a scaled down version of it if you're not careful
... other parties are available, but I see no benefit to the majority of Wales if the Tories are let loose
the major shambles is the current Conservative 'leadership'
Wales might get a scaled down version of it if you're not careful
... other parties are available, but I see no benefit to the majority of Wales if the Tories are let loose
unfortunately the "my mam and dad always voted labour" and the nationalist minorirty will always vote labour because they have no interest in resurecting this country
I will vote for whoever i feel is best for Wales. Unfortunately i have no idea who that is. One thing's for sure, i won't be voting for any party with Alun "derail my mate's rape trial" Cairns in it.
Yes yours is as per usual
"The sheer scale of the US death toll from Covid is hard to comprehend - it helps to hear the individual stories". - BBC tells us. But it is UK with highest deaths per million of population.
same UK that has supported development of Astra Zeneca vaccine which will save millions of lives around the world..and who has the best roll out performance in large countries in the world?
An interesting article earlier from the BBC about how many countries report deaths, did you read? Interestingly, many countries have seen unexplained deaths skyrocketing whilst reporting low covid deaths.
We were told to save our Christmas gatherings until Easter. Now Easter will be meet one person outdoors.
And at is if its not raining.
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
The lights are on, but as per usual no ones home
And the Tories are in the Senedd bar
They have not got mates, just comrades & sad followers
Nice weather yesterday, Vaughan out and about eating chips
Are these new variants actually more contagious? Please educate me.
We have a confirmed far left, unelected, Latin graduate for a 'First Minister'. His views are clearly extreme and I don't believe that they reflect those of the Welsh people.
I think we should be demanding a full review of our governance structures, where such power is available to such a person. He acts like a despot.
It is simply breath taking that our systems can allow this to happen.
I think we should be demanding a full review of our governance structures, where such power is available to such a person. He acts like a despot.
It is simply breath taking that our systems can allow this to happen.
Can’t win Senedd elections so scrap the Senedd Typical hard Tory views on democracy
who is unelected? who is a latin graduate?
your rant makes no sense whatsoever???
your rant makes no sense whatsoever???
Sounds pretty much like the EU.
What is it that you hate about democracy? The WG is the will of the people... twice.
Couldn't agree more, something like this has really shown how bad the political elite are. If it's not just their incompetence that's on full show to actually bring gender and race into a pandemic just shows how bad things really are.
You're wrong surely? he's been elected by Cardiff West. If you're going to put statements on here, ensure the efficacy. Consider this, after all your efforts and those of your fellow plotters (probably e-mailing HYS all day every day) he'll get returned with an increased majority, because, wait for it........he's been honest. No, I'm not a labour voter, haven't been for years.
Not quite right Ted but nearly so. Drakeford won an internal Labour party election winning 6,440 votes out of a possible c.250,000 on the first ballot. Turnout was 5.6%. Momentum and Unite supported him, do I need to say more?
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Are these new variants actually more contagious? Please educate me.
Yes what is the pathway out of the Welsh lockdown. yesterday England told us what & when England plan was. Today Scotland will do the same. And Wales what pathway is it out of ours. Small firms are backbone of any country grow & job creation. There are 1000s of jobs now at stake here. So what is our WG going to do? We can't stay in lockdown forever can we?
After Scotland give their pathway, the FM will fit his somewhere in the middle
It is plain stupidity to expect s firm date for getting out of lockdown.people asking for clarity over when they can reopen is not helping anyone.when its safe we will be able to open up gradually.i hope its sooner rather than later.i would love to see my daughter and grandchildren for the first time in what will be 18 months when it is safe to travel.
yet Labour run Wales has a far lower unemployment rate than Tory England. The facts don't fit your ideology. Time to go back to England.
Drakeford refuses to provide proper information to the people of Wales unlike the situation in England. They can plan for business re-opening, booking holidays and meeting friends in outdoor facilities. Drakeford has not done this.
We were told to save our Christmas gatherings until Easter. Now Easter will be meet one person outdoors.
Well 0.8% of the UK population is vaccinated compared to 2.5% of the German population, so we would have to say Germany. The vaccine in both forms available in the UK is two injections.
I disagree
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
The WG have got used to being little Dictators, going to be hard to give it up. We need some Modus Operandi.
Have the Tories in any Senedd election been the biggest party most seats most votes ?
No ? So it’s only democracy when the Tories win ?
No ? So it’s only democracy when the Tories win ?
Clearly some of the people posting here are retired, public sector or don't have to run a business or pays staff.....nobody is rushing anything as far as I can see...quite the opposite in fact....government is about getting the balance right and i'm afraid we have to open up now and trust the vaccines to do their work, or there will always be some reason not to do it.
Going nowhere
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Some of think there was never a time for them to be here in the first place, since they reverted to being a Socialist party after chucking out their only good PM and vote winner.
There are more parties to vote for than to vote either Labour or Tory.
No, they've gone out for a coffee and chat with mates.
Thousands still dying every week, tens of thousands more picking up the infection.
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
Something is clearly going wrong, assuming everyone is following the rules....
And yet, here we all are demanding to rush back to mixing with more people and pretending it's all okay.
What is wrong with everyone? What's more important- your business or the virus spreading further?
And Wetminster has been so sucessful with their handling of this pandemic so far. More u turns than a public toilet becuase they eased resrtictions too early. they are not following data, they are led by modelling which has got them into so much bother (and deaths) in the past. Wales has done remarkably well compared to Bozo and his cronies.
No country or leadership in the UK as done well in its handling of this. And that includes your beloved Drakeford & WL. Even Scotland will today tell its people its plan. Why can't Drakeford do the same?
We are a single country - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - and all major decisions should be made in Westminster where every part of the UK is represented by an MP. The devolved governments of Scotland and Wales are a total waste of money with second-rate politicians simply wasting taxpayer's money and being as disruptive as possible. ABOLISH DEVOLVED GOVERMENT.
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WG have no road map as they are making it up as they go along. Drakeford always waits until England moves and then he ensures we are different. (After checking with Nicola)
Good strategyNicola far more intelligent than Johnson
Everyone is making it up. They have to. Nobody in power anywhere in the UK has any experience of fighting a pandemic. Pandemic planning and resourcing for was highlighted 6 years ago in a Westminster report as incomplete but what did the Westminster government do about it? ZILCH, zero, nada, NOTHING!
Drakeford is and will always be hostile to private businesses. His mantra is the state will provide and the state will control.
Absolute rubbish
You wouldnt know a real hard line leftie if they hit you in the face with a wet kipper
You wouldnt know a real hard line leftie if they hit you in the face with a wet kipper
Yes what is the pathway out of the Welsh lockdown. yesterday England told us what & when England plan was. Today Scotland will do the same. And Wales what pathway is it out of ours. Small firms are backbone of any country grow & job creation. There are 1000s of jobs now at stake here. So what is our WG going to do? We can't stay in lockdown forever can we?
Belgium has a small population.
The WG are either economic illiterates or they don’t care, we would of seen a plan by now if this was not the case.
Would have not would of
"It said a first step, in the next three weeks, would be to consider the rules around non-essential retail and close contact services, and the possibility of re-opening self-contained accommodation for Easter."
"Consider" Possibitity,
Retail needs plans and certainty
"Consider" Possibitity,
Retail needs plans and certainty
He can't do it if we vote them out!!!
Hello Kitty,
I agree, after 20 years of Labour the economy is going nowhere
I agree, after 20 years of Labour the economy is going nowhere
Hello Kitty,
Shame we think you are so agreeable
Shame we think you are so agreeable
Ahh, this is where the forelock tuggers are!
Because the story about Wales having a lower unemployment rate than the UK seems to be lacking the usual culprits. Why is this, out of interest?...
Because the story about Wales having a lower unemployment rate than the UK seems to be lacking the usual culprits. Why is this, out of interest?...
Let's not kid ourselves, we all know unemployment will go up in the next quarter and the left wing Drakeford Worshippers on here like yourself will try and blame Westminster. When things are going well it's because of Welsh Labour when things are going not so well it's the fault of UK Government.
Oh I so sorry that we can't all be like you. If you want to discuss unemployment there already a HYS on this.
In my experience when somebody in power is “silent” they are always hiding the truth. Having considered paste statement from the Welsh Labour led administration, I am convinced they are hiding the truth. This is what they do so that they can apportion blame to someone other than themselves. Same as Nicola Sturgeons SNP in Scotland.
Let's leave conspiracy theories to the fictional section in the library please!
In my opinion I am convinced your are completely wrong
Big Gob Johnson hardly inspires confidence
Big Gob Johnson hardly inspires confidence
Being "silent" doesn't necessarily mean they are hiding truth, in many cases it is simply because they don't know what to say...
Hello Kitty,
A democracy lets AM’s ask the Health Minster questions ( his own AM’s !!!)
A democracy lets AM’s ask the Health Minster questions ( his own AM’s !!!)
Yes what is the pathway out of the Welsh lockdown. yesterday England told us what & when England plan was. Today Scotland will do the same. And Wales what pathway is it out of ours. Small firms are backbone of any country grow & job creation. There are 1000s of jobs now at stake here. So what is our WG going to do? We can't stay in lockdown forever can we?
It is plain stupidity to expect s firm date for getting out of lockdown.people asking for clarity over when they can reopen is not helping anyone.when its safe we will be able to open up gradually.i hope its sooner rather than later.i would love to see my daughter and grandchildren for the first time in what will be 18 months when it is safe to travel.
No we look at RT Davies and think no way
We have a confirmed far left, unelected, Latin graduate for a 'First Minister'. His views are clearly extreme and I don't believe that they reflect those of the Welsh people.
I think we should be demanding a full review of our governance structures, where such power is available to such a person. He acts like a despot.
It is simply breath taking that our systems can allow this to happen.
I think we should be demanding a full review of our governance structures, where such power is available to such a person. He acts like a despot.
It is simply breath taking that our systems can allow this to happen.
We are the United Kingdom and should behave as such. The UK Government have announced a plan to take us out of this mess. It is a clear pathway based on data at every stage. It should be adopted by us all. We should not have to rely on incompetent, feeble, overpaid, second rate politicians to plan anything. It's about time they went, and the money spent elsewhere to benefit the people of Wales!!
Hello, brand new user name. If it's incompetent, feeble, overpaid, second rate politicians you're looking for? I'd try Westminster. They've a much wider selection to choose from.
You can rely on second rate Johnson we wont
We are only a United Kingdom, because Wales and Scotland were conquered and Northern Ireland was re-settled by the english with a protestant population from outside Ireland. Eire had the good sense to fight for their freedom from england and were lucky enough to gain it. In the 21st century the rule by two smaller countries by a dominant larger one, is unethical. It needs to end and soon.
Excellent comment. I have written to the Conservatives suggesting that the secretary of state for Wales should be empowered to take over, in view of the repressive attitude and failure to take decisions shown by Drakeford.
This is the first time the WG/ Assembly has had significant power; it has shown a great desire to abuse it. Proves Wales has no politicians of the calibre needed to run it.
This is the first time the WG/ Assembly has had significant power; it has shown a great desire to abuse it. Proves Wales has no politicians of the calibre needed to run it.
The people of Wales voted for the Senedd. I suggest you move away to the wonderful land of England .
A million times no! The Westminster government haven't managed to follow one plan yet. They reel from disaster to disaster. Their reluctance to put lives above money has caused this disaster.
Last thing we should be doing is aping them by making promises that we can't possibly guarantee. Don't we ever learn?
Last thing we should be doing is aping them by making promises that we can't possibly guarantee. Don't we ever learn?
Announcing a plan under pressure from your MPs with the rags of the press close behind relying on the support of businesses they rely on for advertising revenue doesn't seem entirely sensible. To say no more lockdowns seems politically risky and hardly based on science.
How are you relying on data at every stage when the science says opening all schools at once in stage 1is high risk?
How are you relying on data at every stage when the science says opening all schools at once in stage 1is high risk?
If people fear for their jobs in Wales they may wish to elect a different administration. Or consider moving to other areas of Wales, UK or even Europe and beyond.
However if they work in finance, then the good news announced yesterday will help them take heart. It was reported that 1,000’s of EU finance companies are going to set up in the UK. Probably London and possibly Cardiff or Edinburgh.
However if they work in finance, then the good news announced yesterday will help them take heart. It was reported that 1,000’s of EU finance companies are going to set up in the UK. Probably London and possibly Cardiff or Edinburgh.
Read today’s employment stats before posting such rubbish
Drakeford is digging up the M4 as we speak
Unemployment in Labour Wales far lower than in Tory England. You are deluded if you think finance companies will not follow the money, and all the money is in the EU.
WG have no road map as they are making it up as they go along. Drakeford always waits until England moves and then he ensures we are different. (After checking with Nicola)
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See if she is still around at the end of the week. No intelligence needed to break the ministerial code.
She's as trustworthy as Hancock - and he's a chiseller.
She's as trustworthy as Hancock - and he's a chiseller.
Even Nicola is today telling its people Scotland pathway so why can't Wales do the same as Scotland?
In my experience when somebody in power is “silent” they are always hiding the truth. Having considered paste statement from the Welsh Labour led administration, I am convinced they are hiding the truth. This is what they do so that they can apportion blame to someone other than themselves. Same as Nicola Sturgeons SNP in Scotland.
Here's a thing. The virus can't read. It doesn't matter what Bozo puts in his 'roadmap'. The virus is oblivious to it. Prof. Drakeford is quite right. Take it slowly. Otherwise the whole sorry business starts again.
WIth the vaccine rollout being fast as it is and warm weather on the way which we know the virus cannot survive in the only thing that being slow is going to do is cause businesses to go under and people lose work/income which will do more damage than the virus in the long term.
We are getting to the point where lockdown will have a worse effect on more people than the virus
We are getting to the point where lockdown will have a worse effect on more people than the virus
Drakeford is and will always be hostile to private businesses. His mantra is the state will provide and the state will control.
Of course you will you only got to read many of the comments posted on these HYS to know that.
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No, they've gone out for a coffee and chat with mates.
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Slow ? England a lot slower
The WG are either economic illiterates or they don’t care, we would of seen a plan by now if this was not the case.
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It’s not though is it. Cases Rapidly tumbling. Vaccine 80% + plus effective.
Yes, cases are rapidly tumbling. But, a year in, how did they get so high- again?
We've all been armed with all we need to know from day one, but cases are now tumbling from a much higher point than the first peak. It's a bit embarrassing that so many people are that selfish in this country.
Today's deaths- hundreds- are the result from catching the virus this last month, not last year.
We've all been armed with all we need to know from day one, but cases are now tumbling from a much higher point than the first peak. It's a bit embarrassing that so many people are that selfish in this country.
Today's deaths- hundreds- are the result from catching the virus this last month, not last year.
We are the United Kingdom and should behave as such. The UK Government have announced a plan to take us out of this mess. It is a clear pathway based on data at every stage. It should be adopted by us all. We should not have to rely on incompetent, feeble, overpaid, second rate politicians to plan anything. It's about time they went, and the money spent elsewhere to benefit the people of Wales!!
Sorry but why should a new poster not air their views?
You are possibley unaware that we have something called devolution. Every area of devolved governance including education, NHS and business development has got progressively worse under Welsh Labour over 20+ years. Westminster has no control over those areas so what exactly is your point?
You are possibley unaware that we have something called devolution. Every area of devolved governance including education, NHS and business development has got progressively worse under Welsh Labour over 20+ years. Westminster has no control over those areas so what exactly is your point?
"It said a first step, in the next three weeks, would be to consider the rules around non-essential retail and close contact services, and the possibility of re-opening self-contained accommodation for Easter."
"Consider" Possibitity,
Retail needs plans and certainty
"Consider" Possibitity,
Retail needs plans and certainty
Hello Kitty,
There was a certainty you would reply
There was a certainty you would reply
As long as it’s different from Clown Johnson
In my experience when somebody in power is “silent” they are always hiding the truth. Having considered paste statement from the Welsh Labour led administration, I am convinced they are hiding the truth. This is what they do so that they can apportion blame to someone other than themselves. Same as Nicola Sturgeons SNP in Scotland.
Hello Kitty,
“In my opinion I am convinced your are completely wrong”
I think that’s a good vote of confidence in Chloe’s opinion
“In my opinion I am convinced your are completely wrong”
I think that’s a good vote of confidence in Chloe’s opinion
With the vaccine working really well; the science from Porton Down informing politicians - is empirical, so to hear these stories makes one believe a political stance is being taken that does not serve the people well.
0.8% of the population of the UK are vaccinated, one of the lowest rates in Europe. Tell us again how it is going really well.
WIth the vaccine rollout being fast as it is and warm weather on the way which we know the virus cannot survive in the only thing that being slow is going to do is cause businesses to go under and people lose work/income which will do more damage than the virus in the long term.
We are getting to the point where lockdown will have a worse effect on more people than the virus
We are getting to the point where lockdown will have a worse effect on more people than the virus
We are the United Kingdom and should behave as such. The UK Government have announced a plan to take us out of this mess. It is a clear pathway based on data at every stage. It should be adopted by us all. We should not have to rely on incompetent, feeble, overpaid, second rate politicians to plan anything. It's about time they went, and the money spent elsewhere to benefit the people of Wales!!
Hello Kitty,
Less of the “We”
Less of the “We”
If people fear for their jobs in Wales they may wish to elect a different administration. Or consider moving to other areas of Wales, UK or even Europe and beyond.
However if they work in finance, then the good news announced yesterday will help them take heart. It was reported that 1,000’s of EU finance companies are going to set up in the UK. Probably London and possibly Cardiff or Edinburgh.
However if they work in finance, then the good news announced yesterday will help them take heart. It was reported that 1,000’s of EU finance companies are going to set up in the UK. Probably London and possibly Cardiff or Edinburgh.
I suggest that youn learn the differnce between the unemployment rate and the rate of employment. When you have mastered that simple skill come back and explain why Wales has such a low rate of employment.
Hello Kitty,
And that is the issue , Drakefords reflex is always to do the opposite even if it’s the right thing to do. Peoples lives & livelihoods are acceptable collateral damage for his Trotskyist dogma
And that is the issue , Drakefords reflex is always to do the opposite even if it’s the right thing to do. Peoples lives & livelihoods are acceptable collateral damage for his Trotskyist dogma
And Wetminster has been so sucessful with their handling of this pandemic so far. More u turns than a public toilet becuase they eased resrtictions too early. they are not following data, they are led by modelling which has got them into so much bother (and deaths) in the past. Wales has done remarkably well compared to Bozo and his cronies.
Going nowhere
Going nowhere near Toryland