Lockdown: Boris Johnson unveils plan to end England restrictions by 21 June
22/02/2021 | news | uk | 4,281
Shops, hairdressers, gyms and outdoor hospitality could reopen on 12 April, Boris Johnson says.
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22/02/2021 17:16:38 16 40
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Let’s hope this works this time. If not, Johnson needs to go!

Mrs Thatcher would have had this sorted out by now.. don’t you agree!?
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22/02/2021 17:19:27 11 9
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And trebled the deaths
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:22:28 2 6
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Well she probably would have told the Covidiots where to stick it, yes.
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22/02/2021 17:43:44 0 1
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"If it isn't hurting, it isn't working" - You mean that cant?
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22/02/2021 17:16:52 130 52
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R.I.P. Small Pubs - 22/02/21.
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22/02/2021 17:27:33 104 65
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Well. That was on the cards before Covid where the Wetherspoons Virus was out to kill them all. All you had to do then was social distance yourself away from anything to do with Tim Martin...
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22/02/2021 18:16:30 10 7
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Loads of pubs closed years ago due to cheap booze in supermarkets. Plenty of people l know get tanked up before they went out and even slipped bottles in their bags. Pubs can't just blame the virus. Drinking habits have changed
22/02/2021 19:52:40 5 10
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Nonsense - they've more chance of bouncing back than the big chains.

Better RIP a few more pubs than another 20,000 deaths.
SJ
23/02/2021 00:18:25 1 0
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A great opportunity for community ownership of pubs.

But will Boris promote this idea ?

No.
23/02/2021 00:47:43 1 0
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Sadly pubs have been closing by the bucket load for years now as others say people don't need to sit with strangers to get drunk anymore. They will tank up at home and go clubbing and get some dodgy beer at said clubs doing silly drinks offers. It's not the 70s anymore. Gastro and country pubs offering something more than a pint will survive
23/02/2021 18:38:05 0 0
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Good ridence to pubs.
They are a waste-of-space for people who have nothing better to do than to sit around, poisoning their bodies with a poisonous toxin.
Twits.
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MVS
22/02/2021 17:17:12 348 233
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Far too little, far too slowly!
Oldies like me have been very well protected by the vaccine roll out.
It is time to let all those whose lives are still ahead of them get back to proper fulfilling lives.
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PH
22/02/2021 17:33:42 216 138
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But we still don't know if you are able to spread it to non vaccinated people. We have protected you for 12 months, now show a little more patience while others who may not be quite so vulnerable, but may also be (who knows) get the same protection as you.
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22/02/2021 17:30:45 48 11
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Exactly
Look into my eyes and tell me why my friends heart surgery has been cancelled.
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22/02/2021 17:51:53 16 17
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They control you. Don’t expect this latest list to be honoured. They’ve honoured nothing in a year.
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22/02/2021 18:08:45 8 9
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And time to make sure they don't succumb to the virus, either. There are far too many who no longer have their whole lives ahead of them, far too many who have died prematurely.
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22/02/2021 18:27:28 5 19
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Do you understand you can still catch and spread the virus? It's not a magic Covid be gone jab. Risk to everyone you are.
22/02/2021 19:04:34 9 0
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It is time for all of us. If you wish to refer to yourself as an ‘oldie, fine. You’ve always had the option of staying in: many of us would rather have a life in the few healthy - running up and down stairs and going to the theatre - years we have left. This was never about ‘protecting the elderly’, it was about ensuring those at greater risk did not clog up NHS hospital beds.
22/02/2021 19:14:46 2 2
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Thank you professor scientist and politician etc
22/02/2021 18:56:41 3 0
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Not everyone is vaccinated yet. I would love to live a fulfilling life I have been outside my home 9 times in a year. But due to cancellations at hospital didn't get put on the vulnerable list. So no vaccine for me yet. Let's make this fair and vaccine everyone who wants it first.
22/02/2021 20:10:51 4 0
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So basically I'm alright Jack never mind you lot, selfish sod!
22/02/2021 20:53:32 0 2
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Well said MVS........more thinking like this please.
22/02/2021 21:18:43 1 0
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Not all oldies like you and not many have had a second dose
Oaf
22/02/2021 23:41:35 0 1
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Can my immunocompromised partner have her vaccination first please?
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22/02/2021 17:17:18 24 28
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Good job Boris
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22/02/2021 17:19:46 14 16
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Easily pleased
22/02/2021 18:48:24 1 1
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What 'good job'? The 120,000 deaths or the £bns worth of contracts given to cronies? Or were you being sarcastic?
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22/02/2021 17:18:15 254 114
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I think the Government will struggle with a lot of people because they have done such a fantastic job of installing fear into them.

Winding that fear back will be difficult - especially when you see people, driving in the car alone, or walking along with no else near them for hundreds of yards, but they still think they need to wear a mask.
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22/02/2021 17:24:32 183 15
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I don't think the Government recommends wearing a mask when in the car alone or when yards from anyone outside. Some people are easily spooked and some stockpile toilet paper. People are different so there will always be a difference in behaviour.
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22/02/2021 17:30:44 29 23
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Instilling fear? If they did such a great a job, why did so many people not wear a mask in the supermarkets? And don't give me this 'they had a medical condition' BS. If they genuinely had a medical condition they should be shielding at home and getting an online delivery!
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MK
22/02/2021 17:48:52 26 52
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There wasn't ENOUGH fear instilled in people - as every time I went to the supermarket you'd think most customers hadn't a clue about the rules, 2m distance etc.

I wear my mask in the car on the way home from the supermarket because I don't want to touch it and possibly get infected.

People out walking who wear masks don't have to worry about joggers suddenly appearing etc.

Use your brain!
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22/02/2021 17:53:15 32 5
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I found the mask was pretty warm in the cold weather recently, and kept it on after I put it on for a shop, etc. Like a little face scarf.
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22/02/2021 17:56:04 15 14
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You could see just how terrified the people were last summer by the packed restaurants during eat out to help out.
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22/02/2021 17:58:31 10 15
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You don't think they've just forgotten to take the mask off then?
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22/02/2021 17:59:48 16 5
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The government love those kind of people. They are under no pressure to change or honour anything.
22/02/2021 19:10:23 6 1
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Don’t know where you’ve been walking: where I am, three abreast straggling the pavement and refusing to shift when one walks towards them is more the scenario.
22/02/2021 19:23:03 13 4
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It's terrifying isn't it and so sad to see. A lot of people have suffered serious psychological harm as a result of all this. The sooner it's over the better and I think they need to be more optimistic to help these people who have lost all sense of proportion.
22/02/2021 19:31:30 11 9
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The advice on masks includes not taking them off, stuffing them in your pocket and putting them back on again when you risk getting other people's droplets on your fingers and then spreading them further. When I go shopping, I put the mask on as I leave and take it off and straight into the wash when I return, so, yes, sometimes it is safer to wear in while walking or in the car.
22/02/2021 20:41:50 7 2
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I thought driving with a mask on was daft too until I needed to drive my car back from a stint in the garage. Another reason for wearing a mask alone could be if you've just dropped off, or are on the way to pick up, a car share (and before anyone sneers at that, it's the only option for some people of they want to work).

I wouldn't make assumptions about why anyone is doing anything, tbh.
22/02/2021 20:46:45 0 4
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Because they are gammon meat.
22/02/2021 21:20:45 2 5
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Scared is what this disgraceful 'government' wants us to be, which is why we need to show them the door very fast.
22/02/2021 22:55:17 5 0
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you wear underpants when in the car alone and when walking alone... just no point taking them off and putting them back on all the time. nothing about control. it's about hygiene...
22/02/2021 22:59:34 4 0
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I must admit i have been wearing my mask when walking the dog...... been so cold it was like having a scarf on! Probably dropping the number of chest infections this year! Have also had a few days where i have still had it on after being home for 20 mins! Its become habitual now lol
Oaf
22/02/2021 23:37:21 4 1
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The problem is not those people, but the ones who don't wear a mask when they should.
22/02/2021 23:38:07 4 0
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All those people scared of face masks, scared of the vaccine and scared of limiting their social interactions.
23/02/2021 01:36:10 0 0
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Wearing a mask in the car alone helps protect future occupants of the car

Wearing a mask when seen walking alone sets the correct example for others
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22/02/2021 17:18:15 240 156
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Great news but this seems overly cautious?

Surely another 4 months of strong restrictions is OTT when most of the adult population will be vaccinated by then? And we know that transmission and serious illness after vaccine is greatly reduced.
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22/02/2021 17:28:44 255 143
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I'd rather we were overly cautious this time. We saw the damage that complacency brought.
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22/02/2021 17:29:27 24 25
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HMG have successfully ruled with dictate from a lectern since March.
The manner in which they’ve got away with pre-scripted questions, and avoiding any scrutiny from those who profoundly disagree with their approach has been breathtaking in it’s brazen Politburo style.
And still they cling to their sanctimonious power, with both eyes on opinion polls, to the detriment of common sense & leadership
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22/02/2021 17:30:13 34 16
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Spot on. Already over 1/3 of the adult population are vaccinated. We have the data showing there's a huge drop in hospital admissions in the vaccinated groups (and indeed hospital admissions dropped below 1000 today for the first time since October) and the other vulnerable groups can be done by the end of March.
The NHS is not going to be overwhelmed now and the vaccine is saving lives.
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:35:32 29 15
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You have proven why you're wrong in your own comment.

Why wait 4 months when most will be vaccinated at that point? Because that's the goal here - get most people vaccinated then we can live freely!

Live freely before that and you just repeat the yo-yo restrictions of 2020.
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22/02/2021 17:47:33 1 1
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Simplistic view. But it is Britain.
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22/02/2021 17:50:40 7 2
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They’ve got the people right where they want them. There’s still a lot who want restrictions and they know it and are happy to keep restrictions for as long as they want. Dangling the carrot is a tactic they’ve used for a year and there’s been no public revolt. They are in control and the public are for the most part happy to go along with it.
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22/02/2021 18:12:50 1 0
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Some won't be vaccinated until the last day of the programme.
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22/02/2021 18:31:02 1 1
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You don't seem to understand how vaccinations work.
22/02/2021 19:25:00 1 2
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Is thinking things through that hard to grasp?
Right now, LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION IS FULLY VACCINATED.
Get it?
It'll take four months to give all adults their FIRST dose, as well as giving those who have had it their second.

Sheesh...
22/02/2021 22:07:07 1 1
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it is NOT to do with vaccinations.It takes time for them to work and start protecting, plus a lot of people not getting the vaccine. We have no choice but to be cautious,and patient. Nothing is OTT if it gets the country back to some kind of normality
22/02/2021 22:21:52 1 2
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This virus is unpredictable, and some people are irresponsible.

Better to be cautious than complacent. The latter happened last summer, and look what happened.
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22/02/2021 17:18:59 2 4
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What about universities
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22/02/2021 17:29:04 3 1
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No one cares about universities! Except maybe students, who presumably have all been learning online anyway.
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mc
22/02/2021 17:25:09 0 2
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shur until september they caused this
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22/02/2021 17:19:10 132 78
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Thanking Boris for this is like thanking an abuser when they stop punching you.
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22/02/2021 17:20:22 63 20
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Widespread outbreaks of Stockholm Syndrome.
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22/02/2021 18:06:15 7 2
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Except he hasn’t stopped punching. He is only saying he will stop punching if you do what he says and the data, which strangely supports to keep on punching whenever the end comes into focus.
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22/02/2021 18:29:33 7 10
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Not quite, the abuser hurts you Boris is saving lives. No comparison.
22/02/2021 18:38:14 9 8
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Odd view of measures that are literally saving your life.
22/02/2021 22:00:19 0 0
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geeze
22/02/2021 22:39:06 2 3
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We’ve got a few more years of abuse - the tories are with us till 2024 so plenty more opportunities for them to do us over.
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22/02/2021 17:19:17 11 7
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I'm glad we have a date. People need a date--something to look forward to.

I reckon compliance from the public is more easily given when people have an end in sight. Not having an end in sight more likely to contribute to illegal raves etc.

Yes, criminals will be criminals, but decent people will still make bad decisions in extreme circumstances. Thankfully extreme circumstances are going away
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22/02/2021 17:22:03 6 8
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You've been given one (several in fact) by the man who said he "would be guided by data, not dates."

Just more nonsense words, eh Boris?
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:23:30 5 1
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I actually think all it does it give hope to law abiding people that there is an end point.

The rest will see a relaxation and think they can continue to flout and go one step further in their flouting.
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22/02/2021 17:26:56 2 1
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Rubbish. If previous history has shown anything it is that as soon as people see a date they assume it is OK now.

March 29th for 2 household mixing though - I see people doing that NOW, and often it's older people who have had their jab so they're OK with it!
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22/02/2021 17:52:04 0 0
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I'd say the opposite for your second point, dates are more likely to cause those things as there are so many smart a**es in our country who would intentionally do it a couple of days before.

The most abundant thing in those type of people isn't selfishness or stupidity like I see many people believe, it's pure arrogance, and unfortunately modern day culture breeds + encourages it relentlessly.
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22/02/2021 17:19:18 7 17
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He hasn't learned a single thing
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22/02/2021 17:33:48 4 2
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How to lie?
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22/02/2021 17:16:38 16 40
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Let’s hope this works this time. If not, Johnson needs to go!

Mrs Thatcher would have had this sorted out by now.. don’t you agree!?
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22/02/2021 17:19:27 11 9
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And trebled the deaths
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22/02/2021 17:21:54 3 2
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She would have culled the poor....
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:21:11 14 3
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Absolutely Bill! I think we should blame the government. Don’t open anything until nobody dies ever again. Bill for Prime Minister!
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22/02/2021 17:21:43 7 1
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Oh, for goodness' sake. People die every day. It's called mortality. Those of us who are still alive should be allowed to enjoy more than just an existence now. I'd like to be able to reopen my business and see my kids educated. We can't be afraid forever.
Hush bed wetter.

Mummy will be along soon.
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MVS
22/02/2021 17:22:27 9 2
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69,000 000 people need to live fulfilling lives.
Death is inevitable for all of us. Do we really need to live in purgatory to appease our collective consciences for the fact that some people will die with covid instead of committing suicide!
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22/02/2021 17:23:12 8 1
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There are 1,600 deaths per day on an average day in the UK, meaning around 11,000 per week. This number cannot be reduced permanently without reducing the birth rate, regardless of the life-expectancy of the population.
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22/02/2021 17:23:19 8 1
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No mate its called life. You can die of covid, you can die of flu, cancer, car crash, heart attack, falling down stairs, stroke, dementia, renal failure etc. etc. If it was up to people like you we would be locked up at home not enjoying life forever. You were born to die the moment you took your first breath. Life is for living, not staying alive. Don't fear the reaper.
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mc
22/02/2021 17:24:30 6 1
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more die from other deseases but ignore them shall we
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22/02/2021 17:30:16 5 1
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There is now a vaccine, herd immunity, better treatment - all sadly lacking in April 2020. We have beaten this so get out from under the bed and live.
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22/02/2021 17:19:46 601 161
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No point saying data not dates, and then setting dates. Surely if the data shows cases etc coming down quicker than expected the dates should change. I know unlikely but could end up with perverse situation where cases snd deaths are incredibly low but we still have restrictions
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22/02/2021 17:27:59 532 145
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There's also data on unemployment, lost GDP, lost education, increased government borrowing, loss of enjoyment of life, prevalence of mental health issues, reduction in people exercising as gyms are closed. Is all that data also being considered, or just Covid related data?
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22/02/2021 17:29:03 28 45
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Does this count as the fastest u-turn yet?! Data means data!!
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22/02/2021 17:33:28 53 46
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He loves his soundbites does Boris, even if they are nonsense.
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22/02/2021 17:35:53 33 10
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I don't think you'll need to worry about unnecessary delay if progress is better than expected; more reason to fear dates will be maintained if progress is lagging.

Besides, there will be those who will only have listened to dates and are oblivious to data, wailing about broken promises on dates.
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22/02/2021 17:38:13 43 3
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It's actually highly likely that deaths will be at an extremely low level by the time most things are opened up. Already we're down from a peak of 1281 deaths per day to 414 deaths per day and it's halving every couple of weeks.
That's even before the speed up in the vaccine rollout from 11th January will have had much effect as it takes about 5 weeks for vaccines to start impacting deaths.
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22/02/2021 17:43:40 11 1
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No earlier than mentioned regularly.
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22/02/2021 17:44:45 12 10
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Of course we will still have restrictions. Wait for more excuses in the coming months.
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22/02/2021 17:45:50 4 8
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Its almost like thats what they want. Like it has been all along.
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22/02/2021 17:48:35 21 2
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5 week cycles with 1 week for notice of date changes and 4 weeks of data to make sure things are going in the right direction.

If it isn't, those dates get pushed out to the right.

It's very clear the dates for the stages specified are NO EARLIER THAN.
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22/02/2021 17:49:57 12 0
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They haven't really set dates - they're "no earlier than" dates subject to change.

None of them are three weeks after the middle of April though. Go figure!
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22/02/2021 17:50:06 6 1
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It's easier to hasten lifting of restrictions than having to put them back on.
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GEH
22/02/2021 17:56:48 14 1
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He didn't set dates - he said "not earlier than" and that the second and subsequent steps could be delayed if the data doesn't support opening up.
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22/02/2021 18:01:20 16 9
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Just another coward who wants to impose his will on the rest of us.

Vaccinate the vunerable and MOVE ON.

Put those pathetic covid passports in the bin as well.
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22/02/2021 18:13:36 9 0
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The dates are not entirely fixed
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22/02/2021 18:15:49 3 10
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What's wrong with that? Australia came out of its winter with new daily cases in single figures, at the same we came out of our summer with figures in the 100s a day.

Data this time appears to be what the government is more concerned with, although opening all schools ignores ONS data, rather than making up its own arbitrary herd immunity policy!
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22/02/2021 18:21:16 6 3
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Another of his soundbites, the 'oven-ready deal' ??
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22/02/2021 18:22:13 5 4
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It’s typical of the shambles from Boris all along. Hilarious that he starts with the route map will be data driven and then sets dates. He’s governing following the standards set in Yes Prime Minister.
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22/02/2021 18:23:57 2 0
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The key is what data he gets from SAGE so dates can be changed.
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22/02/2021 18:24:10 2 1
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The data from the successful inoculation program has allowed cautious dates to be set.
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22/02/2021 18:25:58 5 6
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Too risk averse Boris. Not what we should be getting from a Tory PM. You have let business down massively today. Shame on you.
22/02/2021 18:45:32 6 0
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No point in saying data not dates.....

The roadmap defines a ‘not before date, and only if criteria are met.
That feels like a good measured approach. It gives an indicative timeline to plan and certainty that appropriate criteria will be the overriding control.

Unfortunately in Scotland we have been told we probably won’t get dates. The uncertainty is crippling.
22/02/2021 18:46:01 2 2
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The dates of lifting restrictions are based on the best information available. Given our propensity for breaking those restrictions I doubt there will be a case for considering lifting them before. Chances are, given the last years behaviour cases will rise. Additionally, teachers are already moaning that it is too soon.
22/02/2021 18:52:53 0 0
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Yep.
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22/02/2021 17:17:18 24 28
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Good job Boris
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22/02/2021 17:19:46 14 16
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Easily pleased
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22/02/2021 17:26:47 2 4
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Thanks for your insightful reply. Back to school 8th March for you.
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22/02/2021 17:20:03 161 27
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No doubt our British media will find plenty to complain about regardless of what Boris announces

At least we Brits don't just complain about the weather anymore
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22/02/2021 17:29:23 48 12
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You complaining about the media?
Roy
22/02/2021 18:47:55 4 4
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Yes THE BBC
22/02/2021 18:50:20 2 0
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There is an awful lot to complain about. This is a disaster for businesses across the UK which will result in hundreds of thousands of redundancies, business failures, defaults on mortgages, destitution, homelessness, suicide etc etc.
22/02/2021 20:11:14 2 2
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Well that's because we have plenty to complain about.
22/02/2021 20:47:35 0 0
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Hillmead has long gone.
23/02/2021 18:24:23 0 0
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Never-happy, spoilt Brits will always find something to moan about.
Its their reason for being.
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22/02/2021 17:20:04 229 137
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Only TWO days ago Boris said he "would be guided by data, not dates". Well there certainly looks to be a lot of dates laid out here, some several months away.

Has he got a crystal ball or does he just always talk rubbish oh hang on it's the second one isn't it...
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22/02/2021 17:50:46 261 20
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Sorry to keep posting the same thing, but this statement was caveated at every step by "subject to the data at the time". Why are so many people not actually reading the article, listening to all of the statement, and appear to have failed to understand it all?
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22/02/2021 18:03:29 16 1
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He has probably set out the minimum time scale. If the data coming through is good then the stated dates will not change, but if the situation degenerates then the dates will be pushed back.
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22/02/2021 18:20:31 20 1
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It says, at the earliest, not written in stone
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22/02/2021 18:24:45 13 2
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It's called a forcast. pretty simple.
22/02/2021 18:48:51 3 0
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It before and subject to data demonstrating that the date is ok. As usual too many who gets. We have a road map now stick to the rules and we can all enjoy the summer
22/02/2021 19:04:56 8 0
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The details that accompany the roadmap are laid out in a 68 page publicly available document on the governments website.

People of any political persuasion can read it and then maybe comment in an informed way, without having to guess or make stuff up! ??
22/02/2021 19:05:16 8 0
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No, you are the one who talks rubbish!

The dates are all provisional - based on the contemporary data. If criteria are not met, the dates go back.

Just read the article and you will understand!
22/02/2021 19:42:22 5 0
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Have you even bothered to listen to or read the statement?
Go read what was said you pleb Removed
22/02/2021 20:55:30 2 0
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think you are the one talking rubbish.
22/02/2021 20:56:14 0 0
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I agree.....other countries and jurisdictions have called it levels and have clearly said what will happen when at ‘level3’ then ‘level 2m’...dates give hope...but false hope...as people think it will happen anyway, regardless of what they do. Saying if you all do ‘y and X’ we can get to the next level actually makes people do the behaviours and get the reward....it’s proven to work elsewhere.
22/02/2021 21:09:58 0 1
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Definitely the second one!!
22/02/2021 21:16:45 1 0
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Provisional dates taking data into account
22/02/2021 22:15:02 1 0
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Because the numpties want him to give dates.
22/02/2021 22:18:07 1 0
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He has to give us a date to aim for, but the data has to be met, and there is a gap between each stage to see what the effect is. This is what he should have done last summer - let’s hope we are all responsible, and continue to respect the guidelines. How well we do in the spring and summer will effect autumn and Christmas, and we don’t want another Christmas like the last one.
22/02/2021 23:11:20 0 0
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Well he has to give provisional dates to allow business to start work on makit plans for opening up
23/02/2021 00:00:10 0 1
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guided by the media, taking his health secretaries illegal actions out of the news
23/02/2021 18:30:44 0 0
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He always talks rubbish.
As we all know, now.
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22/02/2021 17:20:05 202 31
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Overall some cause for optimism. Would have liked to see more "if the data gets better we can go faster". Also different schools have different risks (size/local infections) hopefully some tailored response can be allowed.

If the vaccines really are stopping the vast majority of deaths and hospitalisations then this must be reflected on the speed of progress or people will start to ignore.
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22/02/2021 17:42:41 124 130
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Believe it when it happens and not before.
How many U-turns to date?
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22/02/2021 17:43:08 28 15
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There will be hundreds of thousands of mainly untold stories, of personal suffering, as a direct result of deciding that a virus, which seriously effects so few, should be the one issue that trumps all others.
Politicians from every side should be hanging their heads in shame, to have allowed this to continue for so long.
838
22/02/2021 18:22:16 1 1
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Correct, it's easier to take restrictions off if things look better than anticipated than having to put them back on if we lift to quickly.
965
22/02/2021 18:31:26 5 7
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Some cause for optimism? Thats like saying there's cause for optimism because someone who beats you up on a daily basis will be tired & go to bed soon!
22/02/2021 18:56:15 3 3
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Patience or patients.
22/02/2021 19:04:11 6 11
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Too cautious Boris. Thousands of business will go under and many many jobs will be lost due to this unambitious and cowardly road map.
22/02/2021 19:41:59 5 0
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Kunesburg Preston et al are doing their best at the briefing to extend the doom mongering at Bozo's briefing.
22/02/2021 22:25:28 3 0
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It can't go faster because a 5wk break is needed between each sector of relaxation in order to see its impact.
22/02/2021 23:25:48 2 0
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I think they made clear the reason they can't go faster is they have to be able to judge the impact of one set of changes before making more.
23/02/2021 16:18:52 0 1
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Ahh, but what if a new variant sneaks onto the scene, the vaccine doesn't work, and hospitalisations and deaths rocket? Four conditions to be met, and we can fail any one of them. We're doomed.
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22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 13
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And still there are those banging on about doing it all immediately.

Erg crazi... sorry crg crazies.
39
22/02/2021 17:22:19 7 2
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Some of these people have businesses. Or families to support. And can’t.
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mc
22/02/2021 17:23:48 3 2
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suppose you have no money problems
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22/02/2021 17:20:10 132 74
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We need to get back to normality now! Businesses can’t survive. Furlough will have stopped before businesses reopen. Thousands of people without incomes. Less tax paid. All to keep MSM from tearing them a new one and not getting re-elected in 4 years time.
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22/02/2021 17:29:46 104 72
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The majority of this country are gonna vote conservative regardless of what the party does or doesn't do.
158
22/02/2021 17:31:32 26 11
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My business is doing very well thank you because our employees realise that normality will not return unless we take prudent precautions.
421
22/02/2021 17:48:03 16 10
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Sooner have no income than be dead!
500
22/02/2021 17:53:13 1 4
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Normality has gone. They have full control. Expect more of the same!
22/02/2021 18:36:34 6 2
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Businesses can't be operated by dead people.
22/02/2021 19:06:08 2 0
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There are many more businesses than pubs, clubs and restaurants you know and many of them are absolutely booming. There's no reason for any business not on the closure list to be closed just as there wasn't in the first lockdown but many businesses choose to put their staff on furlough as it saves them money in periods when they traditionally have little work anyway.
22/02/2021 19:40:47 3 1
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Yeah, let's open up before the most vulnerable are fully vaccinated - to heck with them, they've had their chance & going to the pub & partying is SO much more important than some oldies' lives.
I mean, is the loss of the local 'spoons really less important than 10 or 20 thousand soon to be dead anyway people's lives?

You're the epitome of the "all about me!" type.
22/02/2021 20:04:43 0 1
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The government have shown on many occasions that they have no qualms about extending furlough and treating the people who still have to work like slaves.

That extra 20% is way below minimum wage for most people.
22/02/2021 22:12:24 0 1
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Got a PHD in Internet Expert
ET
22/02/2021 22:41:54 0 0
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Dear me. Furlough extended into the autumn. Do try to keep up, if you’re going to make pronouncements.
22/02/2021 23:34:27 0 2
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Furlough is all part of the new agenda to get people on a standard wage. Not about health about control and a bought out MSM.
23/02/2021 07:25:12 0 0
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As a Stalwart conservative I won’t be voting for them again. Too much money has been wasted by the government in the pandemic by knee jerk reactions and I can’t forgive them for that - the biggest example of that is the stamp duty holiday was that needed - all it did was increase house prices the numbers show that. People would have bought houses anyway.
23/02/2021 18:45:53 0 0
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Saving lives is more important.
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22/02/2021 17:19:10 132 78
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Thanking Boris for this is like thanking an abuser when they stop punching you.
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22/02/2021 17:20:22 63 20
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Widespread outbreaks of Stockholm Syndrome.
22/02/2021 23:42:17 0 0
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Not till May at the earliest
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22/02/2021 17:20:25 7 9
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Bojo is not cautious by nature and cannot be trusted to deliver anything useful by arbitrary deadlines.
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22/02/2021 17:23:55 5 8
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Fantastic effort by the government to reach this point, especially when compared with our European neighbours. Well done Boris.
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22/02/2021 17:20:44 60 56
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All to0 slow. This is a respiratory disease which will spike every Winter and go away over Summer. We are already over this year's spike and the vulnerable are jabbed. End all restrictions 1st April.
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22/02/2021 17:23:38 36 17
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672 people died of covid on April 1 last year and it did not reach its full peak kill rate for a few weeks.........
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22/02/2021 17:26:22 8 3
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I'm classed as vulnerable. I haven't had my jab yet.

Care to explain?
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22/02/2021 17:27:21 7 6
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This virus does not go away over the summer - you’re simply spouting the same tired rubbish that trump did last year only you’re more like Donald Duck, completely quackers.....
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22/02/2021 17:47:56 5 2
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Change your name to something that doesn't include the word think
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22/02/2021 17:54:47 4 1
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"End all restrictions 1st April."

Do you think Boris is some kind of April fool? Or just a fool...
22/02/2021 18:41:43 0 0
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Lol missing that the only reason we were ok in summer was because of the preceeding lockdown.
22/02/2021 22:12:12 0 0
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That would be a good move for April Fools Day.
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22/02/2021 17:21:02 4 2
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The message to everyone should be...

Don't die now, get the jab and we can all get over this!
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:21:11 14 3
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Absolutely Bill! I think we should blame the government. Don’t open anything until nobody dies ever again. Bill for Prime Minister!
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22/02/2021 17:26:29 0 8
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These are excess deaths due to uncontrolled Covid.
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22/02/2021 17:21:13 5 12
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None essential retail not opening until 12th April ? lets all crowd into the superstores, garden centers, DIY stores with hair like Charlie Chuck ( if you've got any left after tearing it out listening to this government ). Vaccine and herd immunity is kicking in big time - is it only me that can see this ?
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22/02/2021 17:21:16 9 7
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6 people fom 2 households can meet up outside or 30 of you could stand on a football pitch from as many households as you want as long as you have a ball
Typical of a politicians thinking or lack of it
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22/02/2021 17:30:04 3 2
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You and your like continually snipe, criticise and seek loopholes to undermine genuine efforts to progress - I bet you've never been in the situation where you've had to make all-encompassing rules...
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22/02/2021 17:21:18 10 16
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You just know that Whitty and co will manage to find several new variants in the coming months to keep the lockdown going.

Should please the bed wetters anyway.
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22/02/2021 17:43:55 0 0
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Aww - picking on you are they, precious?
22/02/2021 19:15:16 0 0
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I'd trust Whitty above almost anyone involved with Covid planning.
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22/02/2021 17:21:18 13 9
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Place your bets on a Boris u-turn in a month or two.
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22/02/2021 17:21:21 12 15
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The worst performance in the world and still I have to listen to this clown.
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22/02/2021 17:22:48 0 5
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You really don't.
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22/02/2021 17:21:28 410 41
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Nothing in life is risk free, but we take steps to reduce risk as much as possible, which these vaccines should do.

Ultimately covid infections will likely go up as we reopen, but as long as the sting is taken out of the virus then we can live as actual humans should be living.
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22/02/2021 17:28:27 102 179
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As a paragon of virtue, I can tell you that the way "actual humans should be living" is for all 68 million UK residents to do exactly what I personally want.
Why should other people have the freedom to choose to do things I don't want them to do? As we have seen over the past year, this is now defined as "selfish", and rightly so
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22/02/2021 17:32:30 81 20
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A normal year sees 10-20,000 flu deaths every winter - Prof Whitty says so on every briefing. This is about 100-150 a day throughout the winter. And society HAS accepted this.

Remember that every year 600,000 people die in this country (1500-2000) a day - society has accepted this too. It's just that we don't normally get a daily itemised breakdown in the BBC.
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22/02/2021 17:35:51 10 2
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Generally agree but it's far from certain they will go up as we re-open. The data shows that infections are being reduced around 70% by vaccination - that is a big effect and means that on average each million vaccinated will reduce the R rate by 1% a couple of weeks after their first dose.
It will vary a bit depending on how many contacts they have but we're already vaccinating working age people
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22/02/2021 17:35:52 16 12
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I don't disagree but remember that high levels of infection will lead to more virus mutations that in turn may lead to versions that can avoid or diminish effectiveness of the vaccines. To me, "as much as possible" , also includes attempting to limit the degree of community transmission. If we get back to 60k plus new cases per day and leave it there for long enough I reckon we will come unstuck.
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22/02/2021 17:38:15 22 53
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Nothing said on borders. There is no normal until all border restrictions, quarantine, testing and PLFs are abolished.

Millions of jobs are dependent on the travel sector. Open all borders now.
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22/02/2021 17:45:52 15 1
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The government don’t see it like that. Restrictions will still be a thing. Wait and see.
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Dan
22/02/2021 17:55:07 21 9
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There is no data that shows infections should rise when we open up.
Around the world this has not been the case and the hardest longest lockdown nations are all the worse off.
India lifted lockdowns from June last year and infections and deaths continued to fall and mortality rate is just 5% of what it is here with all our lockdowns, sanitation and protecting the NHS etc
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22/02/2021 18:12:26 4 2
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This is a case of swings and roundabouts.

Best get the pivot point of the seesaw correct because if it isn't, peoples lives will be lost unneccessarily.

Government and charities help peoples livelihoods to recover but cannot bring someone back to life. Also note the number of young affected by long covid. The less exposed, the less the number affected.
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22/02/2021 18:20:04 1 1
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Great post,
22/02/2021 18:36:31 2 7
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Not if we act like Australia, NZ, S Korea, Japan and Vietnam did!!
22/02/2021 19:23:38 5 5
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Too many people on here who are very casual with other people's lives.
22/02/2021 21:00:32 2 3
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Science will mandate the necessity to wear masks and adhere to social distance protocols until at least 2022. Any idea that vaccination will facilitate a return to our previous life is foolish. Furthermore, the pandemic highlighted the UK has one of the highest obesity rates in the world , this must focus government/NHS on educating citizens about more exercise and less fatty calorie diets.
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22/02/2021 17:21:37 15 11
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Yesterday: data not dates.

Today: dates, dates, dates.

Tomorrow: more bluster from Bojo.
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22/02/2021 17:40:42 2 3
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This statement was caveated at every step by "subject to the data at the time". Have you actually read the article, listened to the statement, or have you simply failed to understand it?
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:21:43 7 1
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Oh, for goodness' sake. People die every day. It's called mortality. Those of us who are still alive should be allowed to enjoy more than just an existence now. I'd like to be able to reopen my business and see my kids educated. We can't be afraid forever.
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22/02/2021 17:21:45 7 14
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I hope that tonight he stresses that the programme will be dependent on people respecting the phased return to normal life and not immediately abusing it. If they do that restrictions should remain in force until everyone learns how to behave.
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MVS
22/02/2021 17:23:54 4 3
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Ve hav vays und means of making you behave!
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22/02/2021 17:24:01 1 2
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Learns to behave??????
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22/02/2021 17:20:41 224 145
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Has it sunk in that this means four more months of lockdown?

Four more months for them to 'discover' virulent, deadly new strains to enable them to renege on everything a proven liar has uttered today?

New normal? You're living it!
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22/02/2021 17:29:58 103 107
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Four months for the immunity from the vaccines to wain and a new variant to emerge that avoid the vaccine. This road map is far too slow.
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22/02/2021 17:50:31 12 12
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Alternatively: Four months of lockdown to prevent a new vaccine-resistant strain emerging (due to environmental pressure of a larger vaccinated population) *and* spreading quickly because the lockdown was lifted. If a new strain occurs, they need to limit its spread and cut it off with that world-beating track-and-trace system they implemented ... oh .. oh.
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22/02/2021 18:02:46 22 7
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It hasn’t sunk in. Have you read the highest rated on here in past HYS? People acting like if we do what the government say it will all be over. Naive in the extreme. They’ve gone back on everything and always find a new excuse when the dates loom large.
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22/02/2021 18:11:52 12 15
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If you think 12th April is 4 months away then it's no wonder the UK public can't follow even the simplest of instructions from the Government.
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22/02/2021 18:33:52 10 15
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If folks could stick to the rules there wouldn't be problems with mutations. They are the result of people not doing what they've been told.
22/02/2021 18:45:48 0 1
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Fair point, but in reality it means a lot less than that because a lot of the rules are being ignored anyway. When the pub and restaurants and shops are open its pretty much happy days
22/02/2021 19:00:08 1 1
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Obviously didn’t listen to what is being said.
22/02/2021 19:31:17 2 3
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I'd love to know what reason you think there is for the government to desire doing further damage to the UK economy, especially when the vast majority of the economic pain has hit businesses owned by Tory voters.

You might wish to check the fit of your tinfoil hat, as it appears tight enough to have either restricted the blood flow to your brain, or overheated it.
22/02/2021 21:12:03 0 0
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Quite right. ??
22/02/2021 21:31:01 2 0
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Exactly. It's not normal and we must never accept it as such - doing so condemns the next generation to living in an Orwellian dystopia however many decades down the line and anyone who is prepared to tolerate that is a danger to decent civilisation.
22/02/2021 22:10:22 0 1
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why would they want to renege when they have worked so hard . They dont want to kill our economy, just the same as all other countries. You dotn use your brain,instead its just an excuse for you to call someone a liar that you dont like, because he isnt your kind of politician and doesnt wear the right colour. Thank God we have BJ, and his cabinet, it could be so much worse
22/02/2021 22:32:58 0 0
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Why exactly do you think they want to keep us in lockdown?
22/02/2021 22:56:38 1 0
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Marky you are a gullible idiot my friend, a conspiracy this big couldn't be covered up. EVERYONE would be involved.
23/02/2021 16:28:09 0 0
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My thoughts too. So much at stake. So much beyond our control. Including some people arriving in rubber boats.
Because politicians are morons.
Its not the new normal.
They have always been morons ;)
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22/02/2021 17:20:52 190 137
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Ridiculous. I am seething at this plan. Lockdown is extremely harmful to people.

The whole point of this draconian restrictions is to 'protect the NHS'. Well vaccines have now protected 90%+ of the most vulnerable to death. Months and months of more restrictions on our freedoms.

And if you think the plan will all go as planned, you're a damn fool. They will find an excuse to delay.
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22/02/2021 17:24:40 89 162
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Very happy that right wing fools are seething. You have 4 more months to seeth.
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22/02/2021 17:26:53 10 5
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Johnson was asked a question about this very aspect in the live coverage of parliament a little earlier today -he quoted a large minority being the reason and ducked the question totally as indeed he did to most questions he was asked
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22/02/2021 17:29:44 33 16
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I have ended up having to use the NHS for the first time in 6 years because of problems caused by lockdown. Instead of being out exercising 3 or 4 times a day I’ve been stuck inside limited to walking once a day. By 9am each day I am faced with 14 hours of passive activity and minimal movement. So I don’t see how lockdown is protecting the NHS. I know of others who used to be active and healthy.
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22/02/2021 17:33:50 21 31
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Lockdown may be harmful to some, but so is Covid (or haven't you noticed?)
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22/02/2021 17:35:41 11 13
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Totally agree. Boris has no idea.
340
22/02/2021 17:42:27 19 9
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Something tells me you won't be restricted anyway. The rest of us have to carry the weight for people like you.
387
22/02/2021 17:45:15 6 6
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Was that seething or teething? Probably the latter after such a childish outburst
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22/02/2021 17:51:03 3 0
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Patience mikesh, patience.
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22/02/2021 17:55:59 7 5
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Of course lockdown is harmful but there is no public revolt. The government have no appetite to relinquish control while everyone is going along with their loopy lockdowns. The public are being mugged.
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22/02/2021 17:59:22 4 0
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Most vulnerable, not vulnerable. Do people not get the difference?
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22/02/2021 18:12:58 4 3
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Only a few more months. Just remember you are a long time dead.
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22/02/2021 18:28:30 3 1
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Think you need to stay in more.
22/02/2021 18:37:38 2 1
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So which grandchild are you sacrificing? Or have you failed to notice it does kill younger people, just in the thousands not the 10s of thousands.
22/02/2021 18:47:39 0 1
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100% correct. They have got used to the power now though + have become massively risk averse.
22/02/2021 19:08:01 3 1
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They haven't started vaccinating people under 65 with chronic illnesses yet in most areas and that's one of the biggest groups.
22/02/2021 20:16:47 1 0
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How have they protects 90% when very few have actually had the 2nd dose yet? And what about young people going to hospital and long-covid sufferers?
22/02/2021 22:13:25 1 0
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Victor Meldrew?
23/02/2021 00:51:17 1 0
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I would say your misguided , but you obviously can't do maths if you think 1 trick jabs will do it and nowhere near 90 % of the most vulnerable
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22/02/2021 17:19:27 11 9
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And trebled the deaths
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22/02/2021 17:21:54 3 2
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She would have culled the poor....
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22/02/2021 17:19:17 11 7
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I'm glad we have a date. People need a date--something to look forward to.

I reckon compliance from the public is more easily given when people have an end in sight. Not having an end in sight more likely to contribute to illegal raves etc.

Yes, criminals will be criminals, but decent people will still make bad decisions in extreme circumstances. Thankfully extreme circumstances are going away
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22/02/2021 17:22:03 6 8
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You've been given one (several in fact) by the man who said he "would be guided by data, not dates."

Just more nonsense words, eh Boris?
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22/02/2021 17:39:52 0 1
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This statement was caveated at every step by "subject to the data at the time". Have you actually read the article, listened to the statement, or have you simply failed to understand it?
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22/02/2021 17:22:06 31 24
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The spike before / after Christmas is the result of Boris Johnsons policies that lead to him being branded as the "saviour" of Christmas

It was his decision to ignore SAGE in October

It was his decision to lockdown too late & reopen too early

It was his decision to put wealth before health by putting London into tier 2 even though he knew about the new strain months beforehand

Remember this
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:24:41 19 15
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He did not know about it months in advance. Pure fake news. The levels in London were no different to other areas in tier 2, either.
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22/02/2021 17:30:47 3 2
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Taht "saviour" of Xmas caused massive death ... wish he put his Santa hat on and said virtual Xmas this people .... I am sure less would have died
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22/02/2021 18:04:46 0 0
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You do remember that there was no Christmas spike, just the same trend from November? Attributed the the New varient. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55669736
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22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 13
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And still there are those banging on about doing it all immediately.

Erg crazi... sorry crg crazies.
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22/02/2021 17:22:19 7 2
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Some of these people have businesses. Or families to support. And can’t.
Never trust a man who brushes his hair with a balloon. Removed
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22/02/2021 17:26:14 74 68
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You did that gag earlier on another thread.....it wasn't funny then or now.
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22/02/2021 17:31:42 22 8
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Brilliant!
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22/02/2021 17:39:19 18 4
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He could be charged.........
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22/02/2021 17:45:17 6 11
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Pathetic comment !
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22/02/2021 17:49:17 4 1
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his head IS a balloon
572
22/02/2021 17:58:49 1 1
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A hot air balloon too
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22/02/2021 18:06:40 0 0
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Actually I saw him when he was mayor of London, and when meeting members of the public, he uses his hand to ruffle his hair.
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
Hush bed wetter.

Mummy will be along soon.
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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MVS
22/02/2021 17:22:27 9 2
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69,000 000 people need to live fulfilling lives.
Death is inevitable for all of us. Do we really need to live in purgatory to appease our collective consciences for the fact that some people will die with covid instead of committing suicide!
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22/02/2021 17:16:38 16 40
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Let’s hope this works this time. If not, Johnson needs to go!

Mrs Thatcher would have had this sorted out by now.. don’t you agree!?
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:22:28 2 6
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Well she probably would have told the Covidiots where to stick it, yes.
22/02/2021 18:55:21 0 0
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Or hit them with her handbag ?? ??
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22/02/2021 17:21:21 12 15
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The worst performance in the world and still I have to listen to this clown.
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22/02/2021 17:22:48 0 5
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You really don't.
22/02/2021 23:49:11 0 0
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Show me another
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22/02/2021 17:22:58 7 9
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They will lift the restrictions when the weather is warm, and I fear, it will be all back to square one by late Autumn, as they keep saying, the vaccines don't stop you from getting it or spreading it...
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22/02/2021 17:25:27 3 1
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A single dose of the vaccination reduces your risk of contracting the virus by up to 70%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56153617
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22/02/2021 17:27:20 1 1
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Latest real world data suggests the vaccines reduce transmission by 2/3rds.
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22/02/2021 17:28:47 1 1
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Unfortunately, we are not going to completely get rid of Corona, it's out there and it will always be with us.
It has to be managed and we need to learn to live with it. The vaccine is a great step and if we carry with the roll out, the majority of the UK will be vaccinated within a few months.
but we must learn to live with it. Some people will die from it, just like people die of flu.
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22/02/2021 17:40:52 0 1
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They're betting on top-up vaccine in Autumn but that assumes they can get ahead of the variants.
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22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:23:12 8 1
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There are 1,600 deaths per day on an average day in the UK, meaning around 11,000 per week. This number cannot be reduced permanently without reducing the birth rate, regardless of the life-expectancy of the population.
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22/02/2021 17:23:18 28 15
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Social contact OK from 21 June!!!

What are we doing?
- All the really vulnerable people will have been vaccinated in a few weeks.
- The Vaccine prevents ~90% of hospitalisations

What is the justification?
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22/02/2021 17:25:42 11 13
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I know and the BBC still talking about masks etc. well after this. Trying to rinse every bit of drama because a few million from a population of 7.8 billion have died of something new!
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:26:26 4 6
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It takes 3-4 weeks for maximum protection.
We won't finish the 50+ groups until the end of April.
People below the age of 55 make up ~25% of hospitalisations.
There's a lag period to check the effects of the prior measures.

That's why.

Be grateful he didn't say the end of July when everyone's been jabbed.
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22/02/2021 17:39:32 3 3
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Secod jab plus 3 weeks for 65% protection takes us into June for the 70+ group. Sorry if reality doesn't meet your kneejerk agenda.
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22/02/2021 17:47:46 1 2
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Because they are using this opportunity to push through the great reset ( https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/). Things will never go back to normal.
772
22/02/2021 18:15:37 2 1
bbc
They don’t need to justify it. They need you to just obey. They have control. The people are timidly going along with it. It’s the hope that kills you. Well that and the countless other illnesses now being neglected.
22/02/2021 18:58:08 0 0
bbc
100% agree.
22/02/2021 19:38:41 0 0
bbc
Because Bozo is still frightened on upsetting doom mongers Whitless, Van Tam and unbalanced
22/02/2021 21:41:21 0 0
bbc
The vaccine does not prevent stupidity.

It can be assured that stupidity will kill more people than is necessary.
12
22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
bbc
Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
48
22/02/2021 17:23:19 8 1
bbc
No mate its called life. You can die of covid, you can die of flu, cancer, car crash, heart attack, falling down stairs, stroke, dementia, renal failure etc. etc. If it was up to people like you we would be locked up at home not enjoying life forever. You were born to die the moment you took your first breath. Life is for living, not staying alive. Don't fear the reaper.
49
22/02/2021 17:23:20 4 15
bbc
This is totally irresponsible behaviour from this Government. The virus is still going strong. The country should be on Tier 4 lockdown til 2023.
98
22/02/2021 17:26:56 0 2
bbc
Nothing stopping you from staying indoors for as long as you wish. Why do you need the irresponsible government to tell you what to do?
101
22/02/2021 17:27:06 0 1
bbc
Nothing to stop you taking that route. Amazon and Ocado will keep you supplied I'm sure (shame their workers have to break your Tier 4 lockdown to do it though)
267
22/02/2021 17:38:12 0 1
bbc
You jest? You may be correct though.
50
22/02/2021 17:23:21 29 19
bbc
I can't believe anything the PM says after so many U-turns.
9
22/02/2021 17:19:17 11 7
bbc
I'm glad we have a date. People need a date--something to look forward to.

I reckon compliance from the public is more easily given when people have an end in sight. Not having an end in sight more likely to contribute to illegal raves etc.

Yes, criminals will be criminals, but decent people will still make bad decisions in extreme circumstances. Thankfully extreme circumstances are going away
51
Bob
22/02/2021 17:23:30 5 1
bbc
I actually think all it does it give hope to law abiding people that there is an end point.

The rest will see a relaxation and think they can continue to flout and go one step further in their flouting.
52
22/02/2021 17:23:33 3 10
bbc
First mistake opening schools opening up mistake number 2 letting two house holds mix mistake number 3 letting fans back at sports.
74
22/02/2021 17:24:55 2 3
bbc
And your suggested route?
81
22/02/2021 17:25:29 2 2
bbc
Please feel free to stay indoors forever.
53
22/02/2021 17:23:35 6 5
bbc
was this Fred scuttle Johnson or Princess Nutty delivering this freedom speech.
SCUTTLE BO JO HAS BOOKED HIS HOLIDAYS IN SCOTLAND AT THE STURGEN B&B
22
22/02/2021 17:20:44 60 56
bbc
All to0 slow. This is a respiratory disease which will spike every Winter and go away over Summer. We are already over this year's spike and the vulnerable are jabbed. End all restrictions 1st April.
54
22/02/2021 17:23:38 36 17
bbc
672 people died of covid on April 1 last year and it did not reach its full peak kill rate for a few weeks.........
110
22/02/2021 17:28:06 5 6
bbc
Surely the difference is we have a vaccine given to the most vulnerable now - compared to no vaccine at all last year. Not sure how you fail to understand this
164
22/02/2021 17:31:43 6 8
bbc
The peak came earlier this year. Look at the rate hospital admission are dropping - it will be next to nothing within 4 weeks.
336
22/02/2021 17:42:08 3 1
bbc
Those people would have been infected on average around 3 weeks earlier than that so early March but that's also ignoring there was no immunity at that time.
In Europe there has always been a strong seasonal effect with respiratory viruses. That doesn't mean they cannot spread in summer but outbreaks tend to be less severe and much less frequent.
377
22/02/2021 17:45:00 6 1
bbc
We didn’t have vaccines last April.
696
22/02/2021 18:09:32 1 0
bbc
so?
55
22/02/2021 17:23:51 13 6
bbc
The new four-step plan to ease lockdown could see all legal limits on social contact lifted by 21 June.

It requires four tests on vaccines, infection rates and new coronavirus variants to be met at each stage.

But he warned there was "no credible route to a zero-Covid Britain nor indeed a zero-Covid world".

Seems too sensible...have aliens swapped Boris?
254
22/02/2021 17:37:07 7 2
bbc
I'm linking it to Cummings and his ilk being ousted. Not sure who's writing Johnson's scripts now though as he certainly can't and won't do it himself.
56
SEB
22/02/2021 17:23:51 2 4
bbc
Don't think I will get my first jab by 12th April so why go in a shop?
33
22/02/2021 17:21:45 7 14
bbc
I hope that tonight he stresses that the programme will be dependent on people respecting the phased return to normal life and not immediately abusing it. If they do that restrictions should remain in force until everyone learns how to behave.
57
MVS
22/02/2021 17:23:54 4 3
bbc
Ve hav vays und means of making you behave!
265
22/02/2021 17:38:01 0 1
bbc
Certainly hope we have. The rules are there for a reason and I despise those who flount them
352
22/02/2021 17:43:05 0 0
bbc
If only!
58
22/02/2021 17:23:55 5 8
bbc
Driven by data not dates .......... but here's a load of dates lol.

It is all way too slow. Boris has clearly been burned by previous criticism and is reacting accordingly. I suspect that he'll be forced to bring the timetable forward, but the media will still present that as a U-turn rather than a victory over the virus.
59
22/02/2021 17:23:56 4 5
bbc
So so happy - can't speak. We all deserve this so much!
167
22/02/2021 17:31:50 1 1
bbc
Are you being sarcastic?
217
22/02/2021 17:35:13 0 1
bbc
What?
33
22/02/2021 17:21:45 7 14
bbc
I hope that tonight he stresses that the programme will be dependent on people respecting the phased return to normal life and not immediately abusing it. If they do that restrictions should remain in force until everyone learns how to behave.
60
22/02/2021 17:24:01 1 2
bbc
Learns to behave??????
18
22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 13
bbc
And still there are those banging on about doing it all immediately.

Erg crazi... sorry crg crazies.
61
mc
22/02/2021 17:23:48 3 2
bbc
suppose you have no money problems
150
22/02/2021 17:30:55 3 2
bbc
Mate I've got loads of money worries but I would like to hug my mum without potentially killing her.
21
22/02/2021 17:20:25 7 9
bbc
Bojo is not cautious by nature and cannot be trusted to deliver anything useful by arbitrary deadlines.
62
22/02/2021 17:23:55 5 8
bbc
Fantastic effort by the government to reach this point, especially when compared with our European neighbours. Well done Boris.
132
22/02/2021 17:29:37 1 1
bbc
Little Englanders will never acknowledge that the vaccine is a multinational achievement with EU funding.

No doubt you’re having your jab in your Union Jack tattoo.
383
22/02/2021 17:45:11 0 0
bbc
Sorry, that's despite Johnson, not because.
63
22/02/2021 17:24:12 7 7
bbc
Is it too much to ask for the unions to drop their political ideals and instead try to work with the government on this.
We need a “can do” attitude to get out of this.
143
22/02/2021 17:30:36 1 3
bbc
What do unions have to do with this...
193
22/02/2021 17:34:02 0 1
bbc
The job of the unions is to protect their members. Where is the "can do" attitude from the government for protecting teachers who have to spend hours in poorly ventilated classrooms with 30 children not wearing masks? Would you be happy to do that? Unions are offering suggestions to ministers on how the areas where their members work can be made safer for everyone.
213
22/02/2021 17:35:02 0 1
bbc
Doubtful.
742
22/02/2021 18:13:18 0 0
bbc
Unions see this as the gift that keeps on giving. No incentive to do anything but to keep it all going, which ironically is exactly what the Tory government wants as well!
64
22/02/2021 17:24:14 7 19
bbc
I want a law passed saying no......matter what the R rate, deaths or mutations. The country WILL NEVER BE LOCKDOWN, under any circumstances. EVER. Then I'll be satisfied.
85
22/02/2021 17:26:03 4 1
bbc
Then we should stop asking you.
144
22/02/2021 17:30:44 3 1
bbc
Thank God you’re not in charge then
192
22/02/2021 17:34:00 1 1
bbc
Sorry to disappoint you but...
203
22/02/2021 17:34:43 1 1
bbc
I want a law passed saying we can all have a free Aston Martin. Just as likely (and just as rational).
65
22/02/2021 17:24:24 7 5
bbc
No mention of next winter? Virus pandemics are seasonal, infections rise in winter and fall in summer. We still need a plan for next winter!
66
DbD
22/02/2021 17:24:26 7 8
bbc
It does seem a little slow given the vulnerable have had a jab and the virus is dropping fast and it's a winter virus which is going to die away like they always do as spring arrives. Sure it might save a few more lives but the cost of lockdown in lives lost/damaged and to the country financially is probably going to be higher - it just they are not on the front page of the bbc every day!
382
22/02/2021 17:45:08 0 0
bbc
No, the CLINICALLY EXTREMELY vulnerable have all had their FIRST shot.

Those merely at "higher risk" of covid complications still havent all been booked for appointment, let alone jabbed.
484
22/02/2021 17:52:00 0 0
bbc
And who wants to save a few more lives. If only you could volunteer to be one of them.
5
22/02/2021 17:18:15 254 114
bbc
I think the Government will struggle with a lot of people because they have done such a fantastic job of installing fear into them.

Winding that fear back will be difficult - especially when you see people, driving in the car alone, or walking along with no else near them for hundreds of yards, but they still think they need to wear a mask.
67
22/02/2021 17:24:32 183 15
bbc
I don't think the Government recommends wearing a mask when in the car alone or when yards from anyone outside. Some people are easily spooked and some stockpile toilet paper. People are different so there will always be a difference in behaviour.
134
22/02/2021 17:29:45 24 16
bbc
I'm not convinced a lot of people are wearing a mask in the car because they are scared. Are you sure its not just out of convivence? Either popping between shops or just had their hands full at the time time and not taken it of yet.
563
22/02/2021 17:57:52 14 4
bbc
Perhaps being easily spooked and requiring stockpiles of toilet paper are cause and effect
884
22/02/2021 18:25:58 2 4
bbc
Loo roll hoarding that was hilarious.
22/02/2021 19:24:33 10 4
bbc
But it's now seen as acceptable to do this in the UK. A year ago anyone that did this would look completely insane. And once the vulnerable are vaccinated (even before really) it is insane.
23/02/2021 16:20:17 0 0
bbc
That'll be the car thieves who don't want to be recognised then.
35
22/02/2021 17:20:52 190 137
bbc
Ridiculous. I am seething at this plan. Lockdown is extremely harmful to people.

The whole point of this draconian restrictions is to 'protect the NHS'. Well vaccines have now protected 90%+ of the most vulnerable to death. Months and months of more restrictions on our freedoms.

And if you think the plan will all go as planned, you're a damn fool. They will find an excuse to delay.
68
22/02/2021 17:24:40 89 162
bbc
Very happy that right wing fools are seething. You have 4 more months to seeth.
135
22/02/2021 17:29:45 16 1
bbc
Why does that make you happy? What about what he/she said is wrong?
209
Mup
22/02/2021 17:34:55 29 8
bbc
I'm left wing and I'm seething at the pathetic excuse for an opposition party in this country that can't make up it's mind and seems happy to let the working class rot, while locked in their homes, to appease middle class precautionary principle obsessed fools who won't vote labour anyway
225
22/02/2021 17:35:33 17 7
bbc
Oh grow up, this is nothing to do with sides for anyone with a drop of maturity.

And in case you try and play the card I would be crucified by my family if I ever voted Tory.
234
22/02/2021 17:36:04 23 8
bbc
There is nothing "right wing" about the opinion that virus suppression measures have been/ will be disproportionate
360
22/02/2021 17:43:47 20 5
bbc
I'm not right wing at all, I voted against Brexit and I'm still completely against extending lockdown any longer than is necessary.
Please don't assume that anyone who isn't right wing is in favour of locking down when the data no longer supports it.
443
22/02/2021 17:49:32 4 0
bbc
Grow up
692
22/02/2021 18:09:05 3 0
bbc
Right wing, left wing.... You sound like an immature fool who clearly has been caged up far too long.
931
22/02/2021 18:28:52 1 0
bbc
Thought it was only starmer the bore.
947
22/02/2021 18:29:38 4 1
bbc
The fact that you see an association between being right wing and having a get-up-and-go attitude rather than being a bedwetter, afraid of the outside says quite a lot about your ideology.
22/02/2021 18:57:41 0 0
bbc
Irrelevant comment
22/02/2021 21:15:19 1 2
bbc
Why right wing? I'm guessing your a lefty prat!!
22/02/2021 21:22:36 0 0
bbc
Now it's "right wing" to oppose infinite house arrest?
23/02/2021 04:28:40 0 0
bbc
What a berk.
The spike before / after Christmas is the result of Boris Johnsons policies that lead to him being branded as the "saviour" of Christmas

It was his decision to ignore SAGE in October

It was his decision to lockdown too late & reopen too early

It was his decision to put wealth before health by putting London into tier 2 even though he knew about the new strain months beforehand

Remember this
69
Bob
22/02/2021 17:24:41 19 15
bbc
He did not know about it months in advance. Pure fake news. The levels in London were no different to other areas in tier 2, either.
He knew about it from late September / early October

And even if levels where similar to other areas did it really take good leadership to realise keeping our largest city open for business as unual would greatly increase cases?

I really dont understand apologists like you Bob. 120,000+ British deaths and still you make excuses for terrible leadership, dither and failed policies
70
22/02/2021 17:24:42 189 76
bbc
Far rather follow this cautious approach and make damned sure we avoid Lockdown 4.
181
22/02/2021 17:33:07 43 89
bbc
Yes, if indeed it is sufficiently 'cautious' - I have my doubts.
215
22/02/2021 17:35:04 5 6
bbc
I agree
569
22/02/2021 17:58:37 10 8
bbc
More lockdowns and restrictions to come. They’ve not honoured a single thing they’ve said in a year. Wait for the new excuse. Variants is wearing thin as an excuse but they will concoct a new one. Tiers before bedtime.
844
22/02/2021 18:22:55 5 4
bbc
Absolutely.
no
22/02/2021 19:15:16 4 0
bbc
If lockdown three never ends, you'll have your wish.
22/02/2021 19:27:06 3 0
bbc
Easy for some to advocate caution if they can work from home, don't have loved ones in care homes they can't see, and get their full salary. If the vaccine doesn't work then we have to face up to living with it.
22/02/2021 21:14:15 2 1
bbc
I don't know where you live in the UK but we've had the rule of six since September and no one allowed in each other's houses from October, it didn't seem to stop the Coronavirus peaking in January. Cautious didn't seem to work for us.
23/02/2021 18:28:47 0 0
bbc
Lockdown #4 is an inevitability.
Caused my grossly incompetent and irresponsible politicians.
71
22/02/2021 17:24:16 11 4
bbc
This article has completely missed the key point of “MAY” open at these times if everything goes well. It gives the false impression these dates are all fixed???!!!!
171
22/02/2021 17:32:30 1 1
bbc
Indeed - and the numpties (millions of them) won't even wait for those dates 'coz the vaccine sorted it'.
174
22/02/2021 17:29:32 0 1
bbc
The BBC news says at the earliest! Meaning not fixed dates
242
22/02/2021 17:36:26 0 1
bbc
Yes but we all know, everyone - media, public and opposition parties take these dates as gospel and hold him and Hancock etc to them...
12
22/02/2021 17:19:40 8 36
bbc
Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
72
mc
22/02/2021 17:24:30 6 1
bbc
more die from other deseases but ignore them shall we
73
22/02/2021 17:24:45 6 6
bbc
Cue people booking their holidays when they haven’t even had their first jab.
92
22/02/2021 17:26:31 1 1
bbc
And when the people in the countries they visit haven't had their first jab as well.
160
mc
22/02/2021 17:28:34 0 1
bbc
so what has a placebo got to do with it
52
22/02/2021 17:23:33 3 10
bbc
First mistake opening schools opening up mistake number 2 letting two house holds mix mistake number 3 letting fans back at sports.
74
22/02/2021 17:24:55 2 3
bbc
And your suggested route?
163
22/02/2021 17:31:43 0 4
bbc
Plenty of people would love nothing more than a permanent lockdown, its like comfort blanket for them.
75
22/02/2021 17:24:48 6 8
bbc
Is the NHS now over the annual flu season that mysteriously disappeared?
126
22/02/2021 17:29:17 0 4
bbc
NHS....remind me of people who join the armed services and then never expect to have to fight.
186
22/02/2021 17:33:38 0 1
bbc
There was no real flu this year on the account of all the precautions taken re COVID. Health and sanitation lesson in all this regardless.
442
22/02/2021 17:49:25 0 0
bbc
Of course there was no flu season - we were all socially distanced or locked down so we could not catch it. Perhaps we should lock down every winter (only joking). It does prove that lockdown reduces all forms of respiratory infection . Many of us also have a flu jab every year.
22/02/2021 19:21:16 0 0
bbc
Why do you think there was no 'Flu?
76
22/02/2021 17:25:11 13 6
bbc
"Cancelling Christmas would be inhumane"

He tells you what you want to hear at that moment. Take it with a pinch... mountain of salt.
166
22/02/2021 17:31:50 10 1
bbc
I wish he was inhumane and cancelled Xmas ... I am sure thousands more would have been around for the next one.
187
22/02/2021 17:33:42 1 1
bbc
Easter is a more important religious date than Christmas but it is Christmas we could not cancel. Boris the clown strikes again.
707
22/02/2021 18:10:38 1 0
bbc
Dangling the carrot has always been his tactic. The suckers just keep swallowing it. Then he yanks it out of their throats. He is in control. The public are not.
77
22/02/2021 17:25:13 11 13
bbc
Bad move we need to stop being selfish and get rid of this horrid pandemic , Expect to see further mutations as lockdown is lifted and then in August enter a new lockdown because people are stupid and full of themselves.

Corvid doesn't hit you till you lose a loved one then it becomes very real indeed.
106
22/02/2021 17:27:46 1 3
bbc
Stay at home forever then. I would rather die.
114
22/02/2021 17:28:27 0 2
bbc
People also die in road accidents.
Should supermarkets be closed as the produce arrives by road?
115
22/02/2021 17:28:30 0 2
bbc
I lost my father last April to covid and would end the lockdown tomorrow.
78
22/02/2021 17:25:22 2 5
bbc
I shall never forget the previous lockdown rules. Very confusing and over complex. Could meet in various groups/inside/outside/gardens/parks/exercise. Snacks, drinks also fully open. BUT NO PUBLIC TOILETS OPEN. How on earth are we to function.
79
22/02/2021 17:25:26 16 11
bbc
Boris: I will be driven by data not dates.
Also Boris: Here’s loads of random dates for you all to look forward to.
261
22/02/2021 17:37:34 6 3
bbc
so how do you possibly give the much demanded "roadmap" without dates? And it's pretty clear that the dates are conditional on the data - it's not rocket science
690
22/02/2021 18:08:58 0 0
bbc
So far no data has supported ending the lockdown. That’s just how he likes it.
22/02/2021 19:17:41 1 0
bbc
I dont like BoJo, but if he comes out and says "Im not giving a date" he gets crucified, if he comes out and gives a date like 'May', he gets crucified for not being specific, now he gives a date and people crucify him for being too vague, too specific or too cautious. At this point he cant really win
45
22/02/2021 17:22:58 7 9
bbc
They will lift the restrictions when the weather is warm, and I fear, it will be all back to square one by late Autumn, as they keep saying, the vaccines don't stop you from getting it or spreading it...
80
22/02/2021 17:25:27 3 1
bbc
A single dose of the vaccination reduces your risk of contracting the virus by up to 70%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56153617
52
22/02/2021 17:23:33 3 10
bbc
First mistake opening schools opening up mistake number 2 letting two house holds mix mistake number 3 letting fans back at sports.
81
22/02/2021 17:25:29 2 2
bbc
Please feel free to stay indoors forever.
47
22/02/2021 17:23:18 28 15
bbc
Social contact OK from 21 June!!!

What are we doing?
- All the really vulnerable people will have been vaccinated in a few weeks.
- The Vaccine prevents ~90% of hospitalisations

What is the justification?
82
22/02/2021 17:25:42 11 13
bbc
I know and the BBC still talking about masks etc. well after this. Trying to rinse every bit of drama because a few million from a population of 7.8 billion have died of something new!
422
22/02/2021 17:48:11 3 2
bbc
Which doesn't matter of course until it's YOUR husband, wife, mum, dad, sister, brother, son, daughter...
22/02/2021 21:44:38 0 0
bbc
Oddly enough, I tend to be in agreement with you.

So long as it is not one of my friends family and relationships, I am OK for it being someone else rather than me.

While I personally will try and act sensibly for the benifit of everyones sake, some other people will just take the biscuit.
83
22/02/2021 17:25:48 11 12
bbc
To wait over another month before lifting restrictions on meeting up outdoors is lunacy.
I actually know of people who have been meeting up in the supermarket to do their shopping together because they know they won't get in trouble but they're worried they will outdoors.
This is obviously ridiculous considering how much safer outdoors is but it's another reason this rule does more harm than good.
142
22/02/2021 17:30:29 6 3
bbc
Or another example of the stupidity of 'people' - yourself included I suspect!
404
22/02/2021 17:46:43 0 0
bbc
People are already meeting up outdoors. You an see it every day in parks. Some are also meeting up indoors for drinks and takeaways. Boris is deluded if he he thinks people will follow this ultra slow roadmap.
84
RG
22/02/2021 17:25:50 3 16
bbc
With this gene therapy, sorry - vaccine, that's been rolled out I would have thought we'd be back to normal in the next few weeks but it seems we haven't built back better enough yet!
64
22/02/2021 17:24:14 7 19
bbc
I want a law passed saying no......matter what the R rate, deaths or mutations. The country WILL NEVER BE LOCKDOWN, under any circumstances. EVER. Then I'll be satisfied.
85
22/02/2021 17:26:03 4 1
bbc
Then we should stop asking you.
Never trust a man who brushes his hair with a balloon. Removed
86
22/02/2021 17:26:14 74 68
bbc
You did that gag earlier on another thread.....it wasn't funny then or now.
Your mum isn't very funny Removed
119
22/02/2021 17:28:54 25 8
bbc
Sorry, i quite liked it. :)
151
22/02/2021 17:30:58 22 6
bbc
It made me laugh.
333
22/02/2021 17:41:52 6 4
bbc
OK party boy
349
22/02/2021 17:42:59 9 3
bbc
Yes, I did giggle a little.
371
22/02/2021 17:44:41 8 3
bbc
You've got the Wrongopinion it seems.
617
22/02/2021 18:03:15 0 1
bbc
No it was funny then & still is.
626
22/02/2021 18:03:51 1 0
bbc
Yes, this repetitive joke is very boring indeed.
87
22/02/2021 17:26:20 14 10
bbc
So according to bojo ..... you can sit and drink at a park bench, but can't sit at a bench in a beer garden
He got asked several times to explain this, but couldn't
Just one example of the chaos ahead
152
22/02/2021 17:30:59 5 7
bbc
Because the chances of not sticking to the rules are increased many times due to alcohol. And the park bench scenario is more spaced out than the pub garden and you'll also be likely to hang around for a lot less time. That's what the science modelling has suggested hence the difference
22
22/02/2021 17:20:44 60 56
bbc
All to0 slow. This is a respiratory disease which will spike every Winter and go away over Summer. We are already over this year's spike and the vulnerable are jabbed. End all restrictions 1st April.
88
22/02/2021 17:26:22 8 3
bbc
I'm classed as vulnerable. I haven't had my jab yet.

Care to explain?
266
22/02/2021 17:38:10 0 6
bbc
Yes I can care to explain. Obviously you are not so vulnerable to severe illness caused by a mild respiratory disease otherwise you would have been offered a vaccine by now. Stop believing the propaganda.
22/02/2021 18:48:38 0 0
bbc
Better off asking your doctor..
47
22/02/2021 17:23:18 28 15
bbc
Social contact OK from 21 June!!!

What are we doing?
- All the really vulnerable people will have been vaccinated in a few weeks.
- The Vaccine prevents ~90% of hospitalisations

What is the justification?
89
Bob
22/02/2021 17:26:26 4 6
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It takes 3-4 weeks for maximum protection.
We won't finish the 50+ groups until the end of April.
People below the age of 55 make up ~25% of hospitalisations.
There's a lag period to check the effects of the prior measures.

That's why.

Be grateful he didn't say the end of July when everyone's been jabbed.
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22/02/2021 17:40:19 2 10
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Not everyone. Won't be jabbing me! I will let you guinea pigs try it out first and if all is ok in a few years time then I might get one but no probably not. Covid is not a risk to me or the vast vast majority of the population.
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22/02/2021 17:50:02 2 0
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"Be grateful he didn't say the end of July when everyone's been jabbed."

If he didn't say jabbed twice then that actually means the end of October.
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22/02/2021 17:21:11 14 3
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Absolutely Bill! I think we should blame the government. Don’t open anything until nobody dies ever again. Bill for Prime Minister!
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22/02/2021 17:26:29 0 8
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These are excess deaths due to uncontrolled Covid.
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22/02/2021 17:26:31 6 5
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All about money somehow, no doubt Hancock et all have found a way to make money out of locking us down that and diverting away from the fact that the Torys have handed out all our cash to their mates!
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22/02/2021 17:24:45 6 6
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Cue people booking their holidays when they haven’t even had their first jab.
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22/02/2021 17:26:31 1 1
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And when the people in the countries they visit haven't had their first jab as well.
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22/02/2021 17:26:41 1 7
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Whoopy do, his road map has nothing to do with current covid trends, no ambition and to slow. If anyone is looking forward to sitting on a bench on the 29th March they have very sad life. Schools back on the 8th will give kids 5 weeks to infect everyone again, end of road map. Vaccinate the germ carriers and let them go back to school in September so the rest of us can get back to normal now.
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22/02/2021 17:26:44 4 4
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Did the government carry out any sort of cost benefit analysis for every additional day of lockdown they're imposing to see how the economic and social cost of that weighs up against the expected lives saved, and decided that on balance prolonging lockdown is the most reasonable course of action? Or are they just defaulting to lockdown?
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22/02/2021 17:51:03 2 0
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Yes they did they worked out it would benefit Them, Amazon and McDonalds greatly but nobody else
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22/02/2021 17:19:46 14 16
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Easily pleased
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22/02/2021 17:26:47 2 4
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Thanks for your insightful reply. Back to school 8th March for you.
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22/02/2021 17:55:36 0 1
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I've worked every day since this @#$% started
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22/02/2021 17:20:52 190 137
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Ridiculous. I am seething at this plan. Lockdown is extremely harmful to people.

The whole point of this draconian restrictions is to 'protect the NHS'. Well vaccines have now protected 90%+ of the most vulnerable to death. Months and months of more restrictions on our freedoms.

And if you think the plan will all go as planned, you're a damn fool. They will find an excuse to delay.
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22/02/2021 17:26:53 10 5
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Johnson was asked a question about this very aspect in the live coverage of parliament a little earlier today -he quoted a large minority being the reason and ducked the question totally as indeed he did to most questions he was asked
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22/02/2021 17:19:17 11 7
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I'm glad we have a date. People need a date--something to look forward to.

I reckon compliance from the public is more easily given when people have an end in sight. Not having an end in sight more likely to contribute to illegal raves etc.

Yes, criminals will be criminals, but decent people will still make bad decisions in extreme circumstances. Thankfully extreme circumstances are going away
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22/02/2021 17:26:56 2 1
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Rubbish. If previous history has shown anything it is that as soon as people see a date they assume it is OK now.

March 29th for 2 household mixing though - I see people doing that NOW, and often it's older people who have had their jab so they're OK with it!
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22/02/2021 17:23:20 4 15
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This is totally irresponsible behaviour from this Government. The virus is still going strong. The country should be on Tier 4 lockdown til 2023.
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22/02/2021 17:26:56 0 2
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Nothing stopping you from staying indoors for as long as you wish. Why do you need the irresponsible government to tell you what to do?
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22/02/2021 17:26:59 5 7
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Boris is deluded - apart from schools returning there is nothing up to 12th April that everyone i know isn’t doing anyway so there will be no impact - this looks to be overcautious and has not properly assessed the benefit/risk of taking this amount of time - I will be taking revenge on him snd his party at the May elections and suggest you do too
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22/02/2021 17:27:05 3 9
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Judging by a lot of comments on here, many are starting to worry they may have to return to work - or unemployment!