Roadmap: Can we avoid an economic long Covid?
23/02/2021
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The cautious lifting of restrictions will also push back the economic rebound further into spring.
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MenofKent
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Is it time for China to pay reparations?
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For what?
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
Is it time for the UK to pay reparations to India?
Did America pay the world "reparations" for the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic !!! NOPE...
It isn't a country that's to blame when NATURE unleashes a virus on the world...
So why not write or try and email Mother Nature with your complaint and see if she is willing to cough up...
It isn't a country that's to blame when NATURE unleashes a virus on the world...
So why not write or try and email Mother Nature with your complaint and see if she is willing to cough up...
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
Lol - the £ is surging because the markets currently believe that the UK's economy will bounce back sooner due to the vaccine success - however that remains to be seen. If a vaccine resistant strain takes hold here (quite likely given that we're sending kids back to school en masse so early), then we're back to square one and the £ will plunge again.
Don't say it too loudly, but you're missing the point. Firms are applying to open offices in the UK and other firms are opening offices in Europe. None of these offices will make extra money, just add to costs. Making financial products more expensive for everyone. Brexit, the gift that keeps on taking.
And is the pound surging past its value in June 2016?
No.
It's still 12% below that figure.
Surging.
Lol.
No.
It's still 12% below that figure.
Surging.
Lol.
EU firms are duplicating costs by having to set up in the UK. This is due to extra Brexit paperwork. You'll end up paying for this in higher prices or lower wages.
If you're using the £ as a plimsoll line for the UK economy going forward, them I'm afraid you could drown. It's far more complicated than that.
I produce stuff in the UK for the UK market, competing with mostly EU imports. the £ at E1.20 is fine for me. We don't want a return to E1.40 that makes imports artificially too cheap.
Hardly surging. Against the Euro it is around 1.15 euro whereas before the idiotic vote it was closer to 1.30 euro. But then you Brexthick supporters will grab any positives you can because they are so few and far between.
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Booming, In that case he will give any profits made to his chums. If he cocks it up it will be someone else's fault
It is funny the BBC did not allow comments on the 1000 EU businesses opening up offices in London
I'll agree with you on the pound, but do you have a source on the jobs news as this sounds like pure speculation
I recall when sterling was doing badly as Covid started immediately post-Brexit last year that we were told that a cheap pound is good for business. Now it would appear a strong pound is good for business. I do wish these right-wing flag-waving commentators could be consistent.
Anyone old enough to remember boom and bust will be keeping their powder dry.
Anyone old enough to remember boom and bust will be keeping their powder dry.
Don't you feel sorry for all those Brexiteers that were short selling sterling due to its massive crash when we left on 1 January 2021 - This is an Ironic Comment - Fluctuations in the £ are to do with economic market fluctuations rather than a political decision whether the UK is part of the EU or not.
The GBP has been in freefall for as long as I can remember. My first foreign holiday was during 1970. I drove through Switzerland. The exchange rate was 10 Swiss Francs to the Pound. Now it will soon be ONE. In another 50 years, if it falls at the same rate it will be £10 for one Swiss Franc. A Mickey Mouse currency.
New businesses is to deal with tax - again no new business. Like all the trade deals - mimic EU deals - still no new business. Fisheries - less business and 3 major companies folded so far.
We will open first but in our excitement we will let a stronger virus back in.
Brexit is and always will be a mistake of treason and treachery. It will make the UK weaker and less safe in the world.
We will open first but in our excitement we will let a stronger virus back in.
Brexit is and always will be a mistake of treason and treachery. It will make the UK weaker and less safe in the world.
You’re right..since Brexit the pound is on its way to becoming one of the strongest currencies in the world and was being undermined all along by remoaners and the BBC. There needs to be retribution against the BBC for the damage they did to the National interest but that is another matter.
I would have thought by now that the wild currency speculation swings that are commonplace would have registered with most people and be taken as an indicator of not very much.
I presume you refer to this article: https://www.cityam.com/over-1000-eu-financial-firms-planning-to-open-uk-offices-after-brexit/
I'd also suggest that is hardly an indicator of a booming economy.
More like propaganda!
I presume you refer to this article: https://www.cityam.com/over-1000-eu-financial-firms-planning-to-open-uk-offices-after-brexit/
I'd also suggest that is hardly an indicator of a booming economy.
More like propaganda!
What rubbish.
Sterling is still way below where it was per-referendum.
Jobs and capital have been fleeing the country since, a trend that is continuing. Even Rees-Moggs own investment company advised their customers to move their capital out of the UK!
We've made it a lot hard to do business across Europe.
Brexit will be wrecking our economy long after Covid has become just a bad memory.
Sterling is still way below where it was per-referendum.
Jobs and capital have been fleeing the country since, a trend that is continuing. Even Rees-Moggs own investment company advised their customers to move their capital out of the UK!
We've made it a lot hard to do business across Europe.
Brexit will be wrecking our economy long after Covid has become just a bad memory.
Your thinking is so short - it exposes how the £ has been shorted n those off shore fund managers are the ones making the money - a registered business is not a business just an address to trade by. The CV19 mess shows how sad the UK economy is, low industrial base with over emphasis on financials n coffee shops, pubs, retail for mass employment. No easy return will mean no real investment
"Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment..."
Massively childish.
Massively childish.
Good News on the City front but the rise in the £ is probably far more to do with the fact we are likely to have a sustainable route out of lockdown before Europe & the US, which will draw investment in.
Whether the UK's Business growth or market diversity is sustainable into what will be heavily competing world markets post covid is another issue altogether.
Whether the UK's Business growth or market diversity is sustainable into what will be heavily competing world markets post covid is another issue altogether.
everyone is stacked with debt - about time these debtors paid the cost. i hope this country sinks in debt as it is what it deserves.
I bet you’re popular at parties. All western economies are debt laden, Covid has accelerated the money printing in a race to the bottom. Where it ends who knows? My money is on decade long stagflation
as I can’t see a hyperinflationary situation occurring even though it should.
as I can’t see a hyperinflationary situation occurring even though it should.
If the UK "sinks in debt", all that will result is the £ will devalue, pushing up the cost of everything we import. At the end of the day, the losers will be the poorest who will struggle even harder to feed their families and keep their homes warm.
As always, the rich and powerful will be unaffected.
As always, the rich and powerful will be unaffected.
"Everyone" !!! Nope... I don't have any debt, never have had and never will...
... and NO I aint some rich guy or born with a silver spoon in my mouth, just a "Working class" person who's always worked hard for everything I have and never lived outside of my means...
Work, hard, Play Hard & Save hard is my motto as you never know what the future holds for you...
... and NO I aint some rich guy or born with a silver spoon in my mouth, just a "Working class" person who's always worked hard for everything I have and never lived outside of my means...
Work, hard, Play Hard & Save hard is my motto as you never know what the future holds for you...
A third of the country is working from home, on full pay, and being forced to save. They can afford houses that are ten times the average income.
The rest can't afford rent, food or heating. This inequality will eventually end badly.
When furlough ends, unemployment will rocket, and the economy will teeter on collapse. Then all it takes is a spark, and the people who have nothing to lose riot
The rest can't afford rent, food or heating. This inequality will eventually end badly.
When furlough ends, unemployment will rocket, and the economy will teeter on collapse. Then all it takes is a spark, and the people who have nothing to lose riot
everyone is stacked with debt - about time these debtors paid the cost. i hope this country sinks in debt as it is what it deserves.
It's all relative. Interest rates on debt will stay ultra low and as long as nations' economies appear to be rebounding, the markets will forgive and forget. If however one nation flags behind the rest, that debt will quickly become a BIG problem.
How will the UK fare?? Who knows - but Brexit certainly won't help our chances.
How will the UK fare?? Who knows - but Brexit certainly won't help our chances.
Key will be developing a new different normality that works better. Best of all to come out of this is the demise of commuting and switching to home working wherever possible. Also the shoving out of business daft shops in high streets and hopefully catastrophic fall out to landlords.
Life is home based. Those that serve that will flourish. Including the better parents moving to home educate.
Life is home based. Those that serve that will flourish. Including the better parents moving to home educate.
These muppets angling for permanent WFH and doing everything else remotely are part of the problem. There is a definite element of "broken window" to that.
"I'll support my local economy" is also nonsense, because the sort of people doing that will be living in suburbs, working all day and won't have time except for evenings and weekends, therefore nothing has changed from their commuter days.
"I'll support my local economy" is also nonsense, because the sort of people doing that will be living in suburbs, working all day and won't have time except for evenings and weekends, therefore nothing has changed from their commuter days.
I guarantee that lockdown WILL be used again.
12 months on and we haven't learned one single lesson- decisions are still being made based upon absence of evidence of proven risk, rather than requiring evidence of absence of risk. It's basic stuff, but we're still getting it wrong.
Returning all kids en masse so early WILL trigger a third wave.
12 months on and we haven't learned one single lesson- decisions are still being made based upon absence of evidence of proven risk, rather than requiring evidence of absence of risk. It's basic stuff, but we're still getting it wrong.
Returning all kids en masse so early WILL trigger a third wave.
This certainly would be the case if there were no vaccine.
It probably would have been the case if the vaccine rollout had gone as i expected - but beyond all expectations the rollout is going at a rate 3 times faster than predicted. This will significantly suppress any chance of a 3rd wave - at the very least long enough before we get 2nd booster jabs and the inevitable 3rd variant resistant jab
It probably would have been the case if the vaccine rollout had gone as i expected - but beyond all expectations the rollout is going at a rate 3 times faster than predicted. This will significantly suppress any chance of a 3rd wave - at the very least long enough before we get 2nd booster jabs and the inevitable 3rd variant resistant jab
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
Lol - the £ is surging because the markets currently believe that the UK's economy will bounce back sooner due to the vaccine success - however that remains to be seen. If a vaccine resistant strain takes hold here (quite likely given that we're sending kids back to school en masse so early), then we're back to square one and the £ will plunge again.
A vaccine-resistant strain is more likely to take hold here because we are failing to correctly quarantine visitors from countries where they are prolific because such visitors try to game the system for their own selfish benefit
Spot on, the Japanese found a variant with a mutation on the protein spike that the vaccine works on. If the vaccine turns out to be ineffective against this strain then we are back to square one
Dont say it too loudly but you are not a virologist, there is no evidence of any vaccine resistant strain or evidence that children will produce one
Do you even bother to read the scientific data. Yes there may be a vaccine resistant strain but a) it will very likely not be the dominant strain and b) vac can be tweaked to combat this. the £ is doing well because for once we are ahead of the game compared to most of the world. Just for once be pleased the is doing well on something. Or is that so hard to do?
Pound is on the up as they think we'll have to raise interest rates because economy with expand quicker that EU/US, resulting in possible interest rate hikes.
Totally agree. Heard on the news labour are suggesting that the easing is not quick enough, quick the opposite actually. Opening schools without the majority bring vaccinated is going to be a disaster. The last 3 months look like being for nothing. Lockdown 4is likely about may/June at this rate, certainly no holiday abroad this year
There is always on person who cant see the wood for the trees... If you actually looked up the facts China's first deaths were in November 2019, they prevented medical professionals from reporting this to the WHO. In January the WHO stated that the virus wasnt transmitted human to human. Italy has since discovered they had cases in December 2019. The US stopped flights from China in Feb 2020
For starters how about - 1) ignoring UN mandates on animal welfare 2) ignoring guidance on wet markets and the risk of a virus jumping from animals to humans 3) covering up the outbreak in the beginning by locking up doctors who made public statements, denying there was anything wrong when we could have stopped COVID and refusing to share vital information at the start of the pandemic
Not just India, damages were made in North America, NZ, Australia, Africa, Mid-East.........AND most importantly for the UK IS
CHINA - supposed the next re-rising superpower in the 21st century
My suggestion is time to make a good economic tie with China after UK messed up with EU and USA
CHINA - supposed the next re-rising superpower in the 21st century
My suggestion is time to make a good economic tie with China after UK messed up with EU and USA
I bet you’re popular at parties. All western economies are debt laden, Covid has accelerated the money printing in a race to the bottom. Where it ends who knows? My money is on decade long stagflation
as I can’t see a hyperinflationary situation occurring even though it should.
as I can’t see a hyperinflationary situation occurring even though it should.
It's all relative. Interest rates on debt will stay ultra low and as long as nations' economies appear to be rebounding, the markets will forgive and forget. If however one nation flags behind the rest, that debt will quickly become a BIG problem.
How will the UK fare?? Who knows - but Brexit certainly won't help our chances.
How will the UK fare?? Who knows - but Brexit certainly won't help our chances.
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
Don't say it too loudly, but you're missing the point. Firms are applying to open offices in the UK and other firms are opening offices in Europe. None of these offices will make extra money, just add to costs. Making financial products more expensive for everyone. Brexit, the gift that keeps on taking.
everyone is stacked with debt - about time these debtors paid the cost. i hope this country sinks in debt as it is what it deserves.
If the UK "sinks in debt", all that will result is the £ will devalue, pushing up the cost of everything we import. At the end of the day, the losers will be the poorest who will struggle even harder to feed their families and keep their homes warm.
As always, the rich and powerful will be unaffected.
As always, the rich and powerful will be unaffected.
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
You can only work from the position you find yourself in.
The only thing LoL-worthy here is your myopic negativity.
The only thing LoL-worthy here is your myopic negativity.
Shhh, don't tell them the truth, it will shatter all their delusions, i mean illusions
I guarantee that lockdown WILL be used again.
12 months on and we haven't learned one single lesson- decisions are still being made based upon absence of evidence of proven risk, rather than requiring evidence of absence of risk. It's basic stuff, but we're still getting it wrong.
Returning all kids en masse so early WILL trigger a third wave.
12 months on and we haven't learned one single lesson- decisions are still being made based upon absence of evidence of proven risk, rather than requiring evidence of absence of risk. It's basic stuff, but we're still getting it wrong.
Returning all kids en masse so early WILL trigger a third wave.
This certainly would be the case if there were no vaccine.
It probably would have been the case if the vaccine rollout had gone as i expected - but beyond all expectations the rollout is going at a rate 3 times faster than predicted. This will significantly suppress any chance of a 3rd wave - at the very least long enough before we get 2nd booster jabs and the inevitable 3rd variant resistant jab
It probably would have been the case if the vaccine rollout had gone as i expected - but beyond all expectations the rollout is going at a rate 3 times faster than predicted. This will significantly suppress any chance of a 3rd wave - at the very least long enough before we get 2nd booster jabs and the inevitable 3rd variant resistant jab
Our economy just needs to adapt to the new reality, just as other economies do. The sooner it does that, the better off we will be. Looking at current rise the value of the pound, it seems the market believes we are already on the right track. We should remain positive and take whatever opportunities that present themselves. I think we'll be just fine.
Simplistic and meaningless platitudes. Do you write Bojo's speeches?
The economy will recover much faster if we BUY BRITISH!
Rubbish! what about the approx 6 million UK people currently on the Furlough Scheme? Will they get their jobs back? What opportunities are you offering them at the end of this crisis?
bbc you liars only you and the tory party think for one second being offered a jab by a certain date is the same as being given the jab by that date its not!! The fact is we dont have enough capacity to give everyone the full vaccine 130M jabs 14 feb 2,320,419 jabs given at that rate it needs 56 weeks but of course long before 56 weeks the vulnerable will need a new vaccine just like flu you liars
Last year to see results from lockdowns/restrictions they said 2 - 3 weeks, now apparently to see effect 5 - 6 weeks, way over cautious and will cost us dearly. They said vaccine of top 4 groups will give us freedom but that has changed as well, you cannot trust these people with anything, they even at illegally and no action taken, what a crock of dirt.
I get that all businesses want to get back to "normal" and indeed NEED to do so but lessons from the disaster of last year should be learnt with the disastrous "Eat Out To Help Out" and the idiocy of allowing people to go off on foreign holidays last summer only led to further lockdowns...
Each time business pushes to rush things in this crisis then it only come back to bite them in the end...
Each time business pushes to rush things in this crisis then it only come back to bite them in the end...
I think it's clear that, thanks to the success of UK governmental policies - most notably the early vaccine development support, funding, approval, procurement and rollout - the UK is much better placed economically than any EU country, and probably the US as well. Great foresight and leadership by all concerned.
Hence, the FTSE 250 and Pound are roaring ahead.
Hence, the FTSE 250 and Pound are roaring ahead.
everyone is stacked with debt - about time these debtors paid the cost. i hope this country sinks in debt as it is what it deserves.
"Everyone" !!! Nope... I don't have any debt, never have had and never will...
... and NO I aint some rich guy or born with a silver spoon in my mouth, just a "Working class" person who's always worked hard for everything I have and never lived outside of my means...
Work, hard, Play Hard & Save hard is my motto as you never know what the future holds for you...
... and NO I aint some rich guy or born with a silver spoon in my mouth, just a "Working class" person who's always worked hard for everything I have and never lived outside of my means...
Work, hard, Play Hard & Save hard is my motto as you never know what the future holds for you...
Realistically: the UK was going to have to make big structural changes to hit its climate commitments anyway.
I sincerely hope the Chancellor doesn't squander the opportunity. We need to invest and build back greener after lockdown is over. Fingers crossed for a budget that supports job creation in sustainable businesses.
I sincerely hope the Chancellor doesn't squander the opportunity. We need to invest and build back greener after lockdown is over. Fingers crossed for a budget that supports job creation in sustainable businesses.
Green new deal...see what happened to Texas... Renewables dont cut it
You can "go green" all you want, heck even if you could magically reduce all industrial and man made pollution tomorrow it WONT stop the earth getting warmer or climate change...
The only reason we are here today is due to the simple fact that we live in an era of global warming which if it hadn't happened then the last great ice would never have ended...
It's the natural cycle of the planet...
The only reason we are here today is due to the simple fact that we live in an era of global warming which if it hadn't happened then the last great ice would never have ended...
It's the natural cycle of the planet...
cutting the population is the only way to deal with climate change. The rest is tinkering. The world's poulation has doubled in 50 years - and economic growth is unsustainable when there are finite resources. We already need 3 Earths to give everyone living today a western lifestyle!
I think you will find that the UK is doing OK in the renewable field.We are world leaders in off shore wind power and have just commissioned another massive offshore farm.Read about the work being undertaken by Faraday Inst and battery research by others,in particular solid state.Follow the work on the offshore production of hydrogen and the millions being poured into renewable energy storage.
Is it time for the UK to pay reparations to India?
Nation of counterfeiters plus the they are committing genocide. no thanks
Roadmap: Can we avoid an economic Long Covid?
= lol, what?? economic Long Covid ? Mr Islam?
Poor Brits Removed
= lol, what?? economic Long Covid ? Mr Islam?
Poor Brits Removed
extend stamp duty holiday, house moves will increase furniture and DIY sales.
short term VAT and Excise Duty cut, stimulate retail and hospitality spending.
Demand in retail and hospitality will create jobs. House moves will raise demand
for trades people. Local Community projects can be given grants, make change a
force for good and growth.
short term VAT and Excise Duty cut, stimulate retail and hospitality spending.
Demand in retail and hospitality will create jobs. House moves will raise demand
for trades people. Local Community projects can be given grants, make change a
force for good and growth.
The stamp duty holiday resulted in a huge housing price bubble and pushed prices to ever higher levels. It was not needed last time and should be scrapped in order to let the market return to its natural level.
Retail sales will rebound quickly once people have their freedom returned - it would be better to wait and see how the recovery happens before splurging cash on artificial stimulus.
Retail sales will rebound quickly once people have their freedom returned - it would be better to wait and see how the recovery happens before splurging cash on artificial stimulus.
There is a genuinely optimistic outlook after the covid lockdowns but still the doom mongers want to cling to their vision of Armageddon.
Business will be different but there is a bright world of opportunity on the horizon.
Business will be different but there is a bright world of opportunity on the horizon.
Support local firms. Particularly ones that try to be as British as possible and work with other British firms. I am not bothered about firms that just import and distribute stuff. They should try and find UK sources for their wares.
Waffle.
For what?
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
There is always on person who cant see the wood for the trees... If you actually looked up the facts China's first deaths were in November 2019, they prevented medical professionals from reporting this to the WHO. In January the WHO stated that the virus wasnt transmitted human to human. Italy has since discovered they had cases in December 2019. The US stopped flights from China in Feb 2020
Realistically: the UK was going to have to make big structural changes to hit its climate commitments anyway.
I sincerely hope the Chancellor doesn't squander the opportunity. We need to invest and build back greener after lockdown is over. Fingers crossed for a budget that supports job creation in sustainable businesses.
I sincerely hope the Chancellor doesn't squander the opportunity. We need to invest and build back greener after lockdown is over. Fingers crossed for a budget that supports job creation in sustainable businesses.
Gas and a nuclear plants also went offline as well as wind turbines, the problem was systems that lacked resilience to predictable cold weather not the source of energy. On top of that Texas is the only state not connected to the winder US grid and its grid operator does not have a capacity market (providers paid to be on standby). Renewables aren't the problem, cost cutting costing lives is.
That's fake news, spouted by the vested interests of the fossil fuel industry according to the Texas Energy Authority
https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/19/texas-power-outage-energy-grid-wind-renewable-energy-greg-abbott-fact-check/4500251001/
https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/19/texas-power-outage-energy-grid-wind-renewable-energy-greg-abbott-fact-check/4500251001/
Texas went pearshaped because it went off the National grid. It refused to connect to the US Grid so had zero back up.
The renewables were also not the problem, they contribute only a small %.
it was the Gas Fired power stations that went down like ninepins due to penny pinching. In fact the windmills were back in commission first.
Lack of investment in cold weather contingency planning.
The renewables were also not the problem, they contribute only a small %.
it was the Gas Fired power stations that went down like ninepins due to penny pinching. In fact the windmills were back in commission first.
Lack of investment in cold weather contingency planning.
Checkout the Financial Times "Wind power is not to blame for Texas blackout" for a balanced story. Or the bbc story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56085733 .
Seems the natural gas supply failures were key. The only renewable source for that is politicians.
Seems the natural gas supply failures were key. The only renewable source for that is politicians.
"But at that point, with the vaccine rolled out everywhere, the blunt instrument of a lockdown will not be used again."
That doesn't take into account the number of 'Blunt Instruments' in the cabinet
That doesn't take into account the number of 'Blunt Instruments' in the cabinet
extend stamp duty holiday, house moves will increase furniture and DIY sales.
short term VAT and Excise Duty cut, stimulate retail and hospitality spending.
Demand in retail and hospitality will create jobs. House moves will raise demand
for trades people. Local Community projects can be given grants, make change a
force for good and growth.
short term VAT and Excise Duty cut, stimulate retail and hospitality spending.
Demand in retail and hospitality will create jobs. House moves will raise demand
for trades people. Local Community projects can be given grants, make change a
force for good and growth.
The stamp duty holiday resulted in a huge housing price bubble and pushed prices to ever higher levels. It was not needed last time and should be scrapped in order to let the market return to its natural level.
Retail sales will rebound quickly once people have their freedom returned - it would be better to wait and see how the recovery happens before splurging cash on artificial stimulus.
Retail sales will rebound quickly once people have their freedom returned - it would be better to wait and see how the recovery happens before splurging cash on artificial stimulus.
Why do politicians still think we need four different approaches to the UK pandemic? England and Wales for instance share a 160 mile long border with large centres of population on either side and many thousands travelling in each direction every day. Children have to cross borders to go to school daily. Does anyone really think that covid respects political variations? Hardly scientific.
Health is a devolved matter.
It's hypocritical for English nationalists to want to deny rights to self-determination to other nationalists.
It's hypocritical for English nationalists to want to deny rights to self-determination to other nationalists.
To put it simply, Health is devolved between the 4 nations, the other 3 know that the clown doesn't care what they think and doesn't listen to them, so they will do their own thing and ignore him.
Because Queen Nic is simply incapable of doing anything UK. As usual she leads from behind, waiting to hear the English plan before, a day later, saying "I wouldn't do that" before doing the same thing with some tartan side dressing.
Fool - of course the virus respects borders which is why scientists in Scotland have allowed golf courses to remain open . And in England Boris listened to some left of centre civil servant who closed golf courses in England .All makes perfect sense .
Question has to be how many anti-vaxers will there be that will either catch or spread the virus,. not enough data yet to prove the effectiveness of the vaccine. Fingers crossed the vaccine will reduce the affects of the virus on the majority only time will tell if annual boosters are needed or not. I see the holiday craving are rushing to book time will tell if life can get back to normal.
No doubt the anti-vaxxers will obtain fake Covid passports to enable them to travel abroad.
We could have avoided COVID being as bad as it was in the UK for Sure, Economic recovery means putting Money back in to the hands of people. The Lemon was squeezed prior to covid. New oppourtunities can be created for everyone without handing out contracts for the boys in the Boris circle.
USA has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it will be fine as it still has resources to export
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
But we have gyms and Weatherspoons....
Companies should rely more on British products rather than buying cheap, and in some cases, fake products from China.
the public should also check where the product is made and stop buying Chinese products which may have been made by slave labour.
the public should also check where the product is made and stop buying Chinese products which may have been made by slave labour.
You are delusional. We do not have the capacity to manufacture competitively. It would take several years to gear up to manufacture more.
Either workers would have to accept massive wage cuts and suffer lack of employment protection or the consumer expect huge price rises. Good luck with that.
Either workers would have to accept massive wage cuts and suffer lack of employment protection or the consumer expect huge price rises. Good luck with that.
Kinda hard if not impossible for companies or consumers to do when 53% of goods sold in the UK HAVE to be imported because we don't make or manufacture them in the first place.
You do realise that almost all of those big name high street clothing stores import more than 80% of the clothes they sell are from China and other far east manufacturers, same goes for the likes of Amazon, eBay etc...
You do realise that almost all of those big name high street clothing stores import more than 80% of the clothes they sell are from China and other far east manufacturers, same goes for the likes of Amazon, eBay etc...
Not just India, damages were made in North America, NZ, Australia, Africa, Mid-East.........AND most importantly for the UK IS
CHINA - supposed the next re-rising superpower in the 21st century
My suggestion is time to make a good economic tie with China after UK messed up with EU and USA
CHINA - supposed the next re-rising superpower in the 21st century
My suggestion is time to make a good economic tie with China after UK messed up with EU and USA
USA has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it will be fine as it still has resources to export
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
lol
Doesn’t really matter what is said in these articles the vast majority of nasty little people will have negative comments no matter what the artcle.
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
Agreed, but I think bxxxit started all that..
I’ve not entered politics because I can earn more in industry without getting death threats.
Because politicians are psychopaths.
And we're not psychopaths.
And we're not psychopaths.
Economic activity will bounce back as restrictions ease, the appetite for normality is huge. Rebalancing the books however is a different matter. Inflation will rocket and politicians will publicly bemoan this but privately allow the national debt to be shrunk by inflation.
Pandering to the appetite for normality is a terrible idea. Environmental degradation was and is the biggest problem we all face.
Prepare for politicians accusing supermarkets of ‘price gouging’ and implementing price fixes that will end disastrously as history has shown us time and time again
...and economic activity will plummet again when we're all taxed to the back teeth to pay for the last 12 months.
Most people have already maxed out their credit cards and loans... so when they see their "take home pay" go through the floor (assuming they're even still employed) it'll be time to close the shutters and tighten the belts.
Tough, tough times ahead...
Most people have already maxed out their credit cards and loans... so when they see their "take home pay" go through the floor (assuming they're even still employed) it'll be time to close the shutters and tighten the belts.
Tough, tough times ahead...
Doesn’t really matter what is said in these articles the vast majority of nasty little people will have negative comments no matter what the artcle.
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
For what?
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
For starters how about - 1) ignoring UN mandates on animal welfare 2) ignoring guidance on wet markets and the risk of a virus jumping from animals to humans 3) covering up the outbreak in the beginning by locking up doctors who made public statements, denying there was anything wrong when we could have stopped COVID and refusing to share vital information at the start of the pandemic
But we have gyms and Weatherspoons....
Is it time for the UK to pay reparations to India?
My guess is you don't know many Indians. Why am I not surprised.
Agreed, but I think bxxxit started all that..
USA has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it will be fine as it still has resources to export
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
EU also has MASSIVE debts and a decline in manufacturing but it has a closer tie with other nations across the Euro-Asia Continent, this also applies to Africa
BUT
UK a floating island at corner has MASSIVE debts and almost zero manufacturing capability, AND has zero resources
THINK!
Doesn’t really matter what is said in these articles the vast majority of nasty little people will have negative comments no matter what the artcle.
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
The problem isn't that politicians get death threats, it's that the death threats are n't working.
It’s a bit late to be worrying about the economic fall out.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
You're like a spoiled child who didn't get his way. Grow up and stop being so selfish
Spot on. Its about time people realised the truth of what they have allowed to happen
Economies recover from even the major catastrophes, you could even argue after the second world war that the Germans and Japanese won the peace despite their huge losses and destruction due to how they configured their economies afterwards. The hundreds of thousands of lives that could have been lost needlessly without lockdown in a totally overwhelmed NHS can't be brought back.
Yep, now the lockdown fetishists will immediately pivot their opinion ‘we just have to save the economy’ it’s too late for that, the economy is not a light-switch that can be flicked on and off
Been poaching headlines...
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/
Long Covid or long term economic decline ??
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
Where does environmental degradation fit into your calculations? A country having a big population will most likely start to become a hindrance instead of being an economic benefit.
I realise how disappointing it is that Brexit hasn't turned out to be the big disaster you 'predicted'.
Better luck with 'climate change', eh?
Better luck with 'climate change', eh?
It’s a bit late to be worrying about the economic fall out.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
Economic activity will bounce back as restrictions ease, the appetite for normality is huge. Rebalancing the books however is a different matter. Inflation will rocket and politicians will publicly bemoan this but privately allow the national debt to be shrunk by inflation.
I remember when the biggest threat we faced was Brexit.
Now we've had a year of Covid being the biggest threat we face.
I suppose 'climate change' is due it's day in the sun(!) again.
Now we've had a year of Covid being the biggest threat we face.
I suppose 'climate change' is due it's day in the sun(!) again.
'..Environmental degradation was and is the biggest problem we all face.' Sadly true :-(
"Environmental degradation was and is the biggest problem we all face." Only if you believe in such stuff...
Personally the biggest problem I face was and still is, how do I get cured of the incurable illness I have !!!
Something that will do me in long before any "Environmental degradation" does...
Personally the biggest problem I face was and still is, how do I get cured of the incurable illness I have !!!
Something that will do me in long before any "Environmental degradation" does...
Personally I blame all of the unnecessary chnags in the name of protecting the planet for COVID. How can it be hygenic to reuse old shopping bags? Why do parents allow their children to stand in supermarket trolleys? Supermarkets have become a breeding ground for bacteria, and don't get me started on reusing old/dirty coffee cups.
So let's all stay at home under our duvets and feel good that we are not actually harming anything except ourselves.
Nail on the head - that will be the next control mechanism foisted on us.
Eventually the sheep will wake up and fight back - I hope.
Eventually the sheep will wake up and fight back - I hope.
Don't know why you are being downvoted as you are right.
Also couple in that a large proportion of people now know that they can work from home and I doubt businesses can convince them otherwise which will change our purchasing patterns (fewer lunches from coffee shops and no need to be constantly updating your wardrobe).
There is no way we will end up going back to the way we were
Also couple in that a large proportion of people now know that they can work from home and I doubt businesses can convince them otherwise which will change our purchasing patterns (fewer lunches from coffee shops and no need to be constantly updating your wardrobe).
There is no way we will end up going back to the way we were
No.
Gross global overpopulation is the biggest threat. All others stem from that.
Gross global overpopulation is the biggest threat. All others stem from that.
For what?
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
China - hey world, there's a nasty virus here.
WHO - you're right - it's REALLY bad - WORLD LOOK OUT!
UK/EU/US - huh? Naw - its only a problem for POOR countries - we're all so awesome we're going to ignore your warnings, do nothing and let the virus spread through our populations.
The process of opening up seems to be too slow. We've spent a fortune on vaccines, and soon will have offered it to all the most vulnerable. I don't see why we need to wait until June. We cannot be held to ransom by those who refuse the vaccine.
With a three week period needed for any immunity from a first dose groups 1-9 won't be ready until may and the vulnerable group being done now will just about be getting the benefit of their second jab in June/ July
I have some sympathy for that view.
Tempered enormously by the fact that I've just had a year of my life stolen by people who refused to look after themselves and stay locked indoors if they were worried, but instead insisted that seventy million perfectly healthy people join in with their paranoia too.
Tempered enormously by the fact that I've just had a year of my life stolen by people who refused to look after themselves and stay locked indoors if they were worried, but instead insisted that seventy million perfectly healthy people join in with their paranoia too.
Having a vaccination does not immediately give immunity as someone I know found to their cost - they contracted Covid on the way home from being vaccinated
It’s a bit late to be worrying about the economic fall out.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
If you backed lockdown you backed screwing the economy and writing off millions of young lives.
You have sown this by feeding the media with your “I am very worried” and inanely clapping for the NHS. Therefore you now own the economic hardship to have unleashed.
What you mean voting for an inept gov?
Long Covid or long term economic decline ??
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
We must maintain the current policy of hotel quarentine and/or negative tests (or proof of vaccination) for ALL people (including returning British holiday makers) entering the country.
We´ve done the hard yards, lets not blow it for 2 weeks in Benidorm !!!
We´ve done the hard yards, lets not blow it for 2 weeks in Benidorm !!!
Our economy just needs to adapt to the new reality, just as other economies do. The sooner it does that, the better off we will be. Looking at current rise the value of the pound, it seems the market believes we are already on the right track. We should remain positive and take whatever opportunities that present themselves. I think we'll be just fine.
Facts which don't fit the socialist mantra more like.
What IS it about socialism which demands good news & enterprise be stifled?
Is it because most socialists hate to see others doing better than they ever can?
What IS it about socialism which demands good news & enterprise be stifled?
Is it because most socialists hate to see others doing better than they ever can?
I have some sympathy for that view.
Tempered enormously by the fact that I've just had a year of my life stolen by people who refused to look after themselves and stay locked indoors if they were worried, but instead insisted that seventy million perfectly healthy people join in with their paranoia too.
Tempered enormously by the fact that I've just had a year of my life stolen by people who refused to look after themselves and stay locked indoors if they were worried, but instead insisted that seventy million perfectly healthy people join in with their paranoia too.
So it's going to be like last summer but this time with a vaccine.
Makes you wonder why the over-optimistic, bungling PM made all those empty promises and wasted a year, costing tens of thousands of lives.
Makes you wonder why the over-optimistic, bungling PM made all those empty promises and wasted a year, costing tens of thousands of lives.
Are you one of those people who think that once we embarked on this lockdown insanity that HMG and SAGE weren't fully aware that it would mean stealing a year of everybody's lives?
You mean that when we locked down last March for 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero', it came as a big surprise to find yourself in the same place a year later with the prospect of four months more house arrest?
You mean that when we locked down last March for 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero', it came as a big surprise to find yourself in the same place a year later with the prospect of four months more house arrest?
One common sense way to support the U.K. economy and the NHS would be for HMG to ban all foreign holidays until Jan 2022 allowing only business travel. We may be all vaccinated but this is a global epidemic.
Brilliant idea, by the way when did we start living in a totalitarianism state?
You mean be like cold war USSR or North Korea? No thanks. It would create an over subscribed home market with holiday firms making sure they up their profits to cover their previous losses. Also who wants a windy, wet week B&B in Cleethorpes? Hardly fun sitting in a shelter keeping out of the rain trying to keep the children amused. Also being UK most places close at 6PM.
Long Covid or long term economic decline ??
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
How long before we are overtaken by India, France and even (maybe) Italy, down from 5th to 8th in the IMF "league table" in GDP ??
No doubt the Brexiteer responce will be,
It is a Covid effect
OR
What does it matter, no brexit effect here.
When are we going to see "vaccination certificates" to facilitate and speed up re opening ??
Doesn’t really matter what is said in these articles the vast majority of nasty little people will have negative comments no matter what the artcle.
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
Since lockdown these threads have just turned into opportunities to spout hate.
It’s amazing that so many people have great ideas on how to run the country and are experts..... can I ask why none of them have actually entered politics?? Removed
One thing missing from the roadmap is when the request for people to work from home will be removed. A lot of businesses in hospitality and events, cafes and pubs, transport, etc. rely on people going out to work. Like many, I hate WFH and there won't be any kind of normality until I can leave the house to go to work.
Many Firms which have used WFH during the pandemic are likely to either make WFH the default or take a "hybrid" approach - most staff who have had the opportunity to WFH enjoy it and many Firms will need to offer it to employees in the future to retain staff (and to new staff, to attract those they want). Firms won't prop up Pret/Greggs/Costa etc at the expense of their own success.
There has to be a balance for those who can WFH to have less time going back to an office, I don't miss the 4 hours a day travel time and I am safer at home than travelling and then being stuck in an office with no possibility of social distancing.
I think it's fair to say the "local travel restrictions lifted" part can be taken to read "WFH ends" as well.
I'm hoping to avoid the office as long as possible, a long commute, silly dress rules and politics are all things I can do without
Why do politicians still think we need four different approaches to the UK pandemic? England and Wales for instance share a 160 mile long border with large centres of population on either side and many thousands travelling in each direction every day. Children have to cross borders to go to school daily. Does anyone really think that covid respects political variations? Hardly scientific.
Health is indeed a devolved matter. One that that the devolved regions have generally made a monumental hash of.
''Health is a devolved matter''
Didnt know viruses recognise borders.
Didnt know viruses recognise borders.
Other nationalists? What about the folk who live in these countries? What do they want?
Especially when English nationalists don't have their own Parliament and receive £2k per person per annum less than Scotland.
62 people don't understand the word hypocrisy. I wonder if they voted for Brexit?
I’ve not entered politics because I can earn more in industry without getting death threats.
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
You mean be like cold war USSR or North Korea? No thanks. It would create an over subscribed home market with holiday firms making sure they up their profits to cover their previous losses. Also who wants a windy, wet week B&B in Cleethorpes? Hardly fun sitting in a shelter keeping out of the rain trying to keep the children amused. Also being UK most places close at 6PM.
Still, if it saves just one life, eh...?
One thing missing from the roadmap is when the request for people to work from home will be removed. A lot of businesses in hospitality and events, cafes and pubs, transport, etc. rely on people going out to work. Like many, I hate WFH and there won't be any kind of normality until I can leave the house to go to work.
Many Firms which have used WFH during the pandemic are likely to either make WFH the default or take a "hybrid" approach - most staff who have had the opportunity to WFH enjoy it and many Firms will need to offer it to employees in the future to retain staff (and to new staff, to attract those they want). Firms won't prop up Pret/Greggs/Costa etc at the expense of their own success.
Think it has to be a hybrid approach. Would be interested to see research on productivity levels when WFH. Companies will love the lower costs of office space, but there's a trade off against staff effectiveness in their jobs.
I think you will find that once the pandemic is over WFH will gradually wither away. It has advantages for some, but the disadvantages outweigh them. Many people especially the young don’t have the space to work from home for example
Anyone who has worked from home using screens for collaboration knows it is no substitute for face to face working. It is not as creative and firms who do not realise that will be at a creative , and eventually financial, disadvantage.
There will be a lot of low paid Pret/Greggs/Costa employees taking the ferry home.
The 1 thing to take from the EU vaccine fiasco + Brexit is that we are more nimble + innovative than most.
The UK must now move fast + adapt.
Change is the price of survival.
We need to start inventing + engineering things like we have done throughout our history.
We need to address our trade balance by creating + buying quality British products
This needs to come from ALL 4 corners of the UK
The UK must now move fast + adapt.
Change is the price of survival.
We need to start inventing + engineering things like we have done throughout our history.
We need to address our trade balance by creating + buying quality British products
This needs to come from ALL 4 corners of the UK
The 1 thing you've omitted is that we have the highest death rate in the world.
World beating fiasco.
World beating fiasco.
Why this false vaccination propaganda again?
The UK, the EU and the USA financed the research and most of the research was done in the EU and much of the vaccines were produced there.
We've needed to remove all our eggs from the service basket for decades but at the moment there does not seem to be any great diversion from that road of travel.
The UK, the EU and the USA financed the research and most of the research was done in the EU and much of the vaccines were produced there.
We've needed to remove all our eggs from the service basket for decades but at the moment there does not seem to be any great diversion from that road of travel.
Nice sentiments. But cloud cuckoo land.
We would be exactly where we are now with vaccines if we were still in the EU.
Brexit will do nothing to achieve your goals for the country. Quite the opposite. Out of the EU we're a less desirable place for foreign investment. Plus, the UK is now likely to break up.
It's perhaps the end phase of a 100 year decline of the UK.
We would be exactly where we are now with vaccines if we were still in the EU.
Brexit will do nothing to achieve your goals for the country. Quite the opposite. Out of the EU we're a less desirable place for foreign investment. Plus, the UK is now likely to break up.
It's perhaps the end phase of a 100 year decline of the UK.
We need to export by offering better prices or make it easier to do so. Little or nothing has changed regarding our ability post brexit to invent/engineer. We need to compete with other countres all trying to do the same.
We had the means to be that before , but have chosen not to for the last 40 plus years, concentrating on Short Term Economic gain rather than long term Capital Investment. I
Being in or out of the EU makes no difference whatsever on that issue.
Our great Medical Research abilities that have aided in development of the Vaccines didn't appear out of thin air post Brexit did they?.
Being in or out of the EU makes no difference whatsever on that issue.
Our great Medical Research abilities that have aided in development of the Vaccines didn't appear out of thin air post Brexit did they?.
You forgot to mention in the past we had an enforced market for goods, that also took our useless unemployable - much like the present cabinet, and the main thing - ASSET STRIPPED - colonies - an Wales of Coal, Scots of Timber and Oil and Soldiers from all the 3 nations... please dont come back about English regimental history...
We need to address our trade balance by creating + buying quality British products.
Then exporting such manufacture to China, Korea, Japan et al so that it is cheaper to make.
Office jobs can be exported to India Call Centres and the remainder automated so that a text "You are redundant" can be received.
Do not like it - but that is progress for REALITY, now and not tomorrow.
Then exporting such manufacture to China, Korea, Japan et al so that it is cheaper to make.
Office jobs can be exported to India Call Centres and the remainder automated so that a text "You are redundant" can be received.
Do not like it - but that is progress for REALITY, now and not tomorrow.
How?
There are no engineers, no raw materials, no skills base, limited vocational training, minimal investment in manufacturing compared to making money out of money but otherwise....
There are no engineers, no raw materials, no skills base, limited vocational training, minimal investment in manufacturing compared to making money out of money but otherwise....
Everything you refer has seen lack of investment for 30+ years, as per the current plebs running the show they'd prefer private industry step up with open cheque books, THAT WILL SIMPLY NEVER HAPPEN! Meanwhile all the UK silver has been sold off decades ago aka THATCHER years!
Yes, the EU have now shot themselves in both feet by chucking their toys out the pram and have now convinced large swathes of their population the Astra jab is no good.
So their vaccination program will now be even slower since many are now refusing the Astra jab, this will have a serious effect on the UK economic recovery.
So their vaccination program will now be even slower since many are now refusing the Astra jab, this will have a serious effect on the UK economic recovery.
It's really important that reopening can be sustained and hopefully permanent . There are a lot of people who may have been shielding who will probably always be nervous of crowds and others who can't wait to be in them .
It will be a big opportunity for new and established businesses to find a way to satisfy both.
It will be a big opportunity for new and established businesses to find a way to satisfy both.
Are you one of those people who think that once we embarked on this lockdown insanity that HMG and SAGE weren't fully aware that it would mean stealing a year of everybody's lives?
You mean that when we locked down last March for 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero', it came as a big surprise to find yourself in the same place a year later with the prospect of four months more house arrest?
You mean that when we locked down last March for 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero', it came as a big surprise to find yourself in the same place a year later with the prospect of four months more house arrest?
The OP refers to China, not imports generally. Fully agree we need to actively look elsewhere for our goods and, hopefully increase our own manufacturing base as well.
Half the problem with cheap products is that they don't last and get replaced or they are so cheap that they get thrown away or not used again. A lot of electrical goods are designed to not be repaired. No wonder we have so many problems with waste and landfill.
The 1 thing to take from the EU vaccine fiasco + Brexit is that we are more nimble + innovative than most.
The UK must now move fast + adapt.
Change is the price of survival.
We need to start inventing + engineering things like we have done throughout our history.
We need to address our trade balance by creating + buying quality British products
This needs to come from ALL 4 corners of the UK
The UK must now move fast + adapt.
Change is the price of survival.
We need to start inventing + engineering things like we have done throughout our history.
We need to address our trade balance by creating + buying quality British products
This needs to come from ALL 4 corners of the UK
Buying British is not meaningless waffle - you just cannot accept that the British Government might just have got something right for a change
is that you macron?
I propose a new categorisation for the likes of Strawcat now we have left the EU - instead of "Remoaner", I think just "Moaner" is now more apt.
Removed
Removed
And your magical socialist solution is...?
Oh, there isn't one, as all the left has is criticism & hindsight.
Oh, there isn't one, as all the left has is criticism & hindsight.
Gas and a nuclear plants also went offline as well as wind turbines, the problem was systems that lacked resilience to predictable cold weather not the source of energy. On top of that Texas is the only state not connected to the winder US grid and its grid operator does not have a capacity market (providers paid to be on standby). Renewables aren't the problem, cost cutting costing lives is.
I think that much as we might despise BoJo, you have to admire his professionalism in employing psychologists as part of the SAGE team.
And you have to admit they've done a pretty impressive job of turning 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero' into what looks like 15 months of house arrest, and they did all that while convincing much of the population that it was their own idea.
Well done.
And you have to admit they've done a pretty impressive job of turning 'three weeks to flatten the sombrero' into what looks like 15 months of house arrest, and they did all that while convincing much of the population that it was their own idea.
Well done.
I think it shows that there are an awful lot of people who just want to follow the rules unquestioningly, whatever they may be. The government have had the media on their side, so their task has been relatively easy. Mass compliance is great, up to a point, but can also be abused by those in power.
And every other Government in the Western world has had the same problems as the UK - some with riots to boot
Many Firms which have used WFH during the pandemic are likely to either make WFH the default or take a "hybrid" approach - most staff who have had the opportunity to WFH enjoy it and many Firms will need to offer it to employees in the future to retain staff (and to new staff, to attract those they want). Firms won't prop up Pret/Greggs/Costa etc at the expense of their own success.
Having done some WFH a while back, I found WFH cuts out the wasted time of the commute (an hour or so each way, for me). So people WFH start fresher and possibly more productive. WFH can spread your effort, too, not just 9-5. WFH does have distractions, of course, but clock-watching so you don't miss your train doesn't help, either. Would love to see some hard data.
You are delusional. We do not have the capacity to manufacture competitively. It would take several years to gear up to manufacture more.
Either workers would have to accept massive wage cuts and suffer lack of employment protection or the consumer expect huge price rises. Good luck with that.
Either workers would have to accept massive wage cuts and suffer lack of employment protection or the consumer expect huge price rises. Good luck with that.
Government policy has been the problem not the virus, every winter there is an NHS crisis with headlines of beds in corridors and queue's of ambulances.
NHS beds have been cut by 50%, at the same time the population has grown by 10,000,000. UK drags out opening up, other countries never locked down, Japan being one.
NHS beds have been cut by 50%, at the same time the population has grown by 10,000,000. UK drags out opening up, other countries never locked down, Japan being one.
The NHS crisis is often a result of its success - it is no use having beds in hospitals if we cannot staff them without taking them from other countries where they are also needed. The more ailments that we can treat will always mean that there is an increased claim on its services
I have to admit that previously I held psychologists in low esteem.
No way would I have believed you that with a few simple mind games they could convince seventy million people to give up a year of their lives to 'save' 0.2% of the population in their 80s.
But they have.
And, more impressively. Now that we've 'saved' the 90% for whom we supposedly wrecked the economy, we're still imprisoned.
No way would I have believed you that with a few simple mind games they could convince seventy million people to give up a year of their lives to 'save' 0.2% of the population in their 80s.
But they have.
And, more impressively. Now that we've 'saved' the 90% for whom we supposedly wrecked the economy, we're still imprisoned.
You will never know how many lives have been saved because we were not prepared to take that risk. It could have been millions extra deaths if it had been allowed to spread without check. Vulnerable younger people would have just as likely been victims as the elderly with society falling in chaos and the health service collapsing completely.
Under 70s make up a small proportion of those who have died with covid-19 but nearly half of those admitted to hospital after 1st August 2020
If those people couldn’t get a bed in a completely full NHS how may people under 70 might then have died or have long term damage to their health too?
Presumably only people your age matter and every one you consider old is expendable
If those people couldn’t get a bed in a completely full NHS how may people under 70 might then have died or have long term damage to their health too?
Presumably only people your age matter and every one you consider old is expendable
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
Go on then; what's YOUR indicator?
£ higher
FTSE higher
Business confidence higher
If the price of bananas rises, you'd blame brexit, rather than banana blight
£ higher
FTSE higher
Business confidence higher
If the price of bananas rises, you'd blame brexit, rather than banana blight
Many Firms which have used WFH during the pandemic are likely to either make WFH the default or take a "hybrid" approach - most staff who have had the opportunity to WFH enjoy it and many Firms will need to offer it to employees in the future to retain staff (and to new staff, to attract those they want). Firms won't prop up Pret/Greggs/Costa etc at the expense of their own success.
Absolutely, with this sort of business news as reported by the BBC.
“Brexit: 1,000 EU finance firms 'set to open UK offices”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531
“Brexit: 1,000 EU finance firms 'set to open UK offices”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531
You seem to forget how many jobs and money went the other way in 2020, over a £trillion and over 7,000 jobs just for starters. You can pour as much in your bucket as you like, but if it's got a gaping hole in the bottom, you're going nowhere.
After the war, a lot of work went into trying to understand how a supposedly educated European society could be hijacked by a few psychopaths and turned into such a ruthless killing machine filled with fanatics prepared to do anything for the perceived 'common good'. And why there were so few dissenters.
After the year we've just had, I now see how it was so easy.
After the year we've just had, I now see how it was so easy.
Absolutely correct, UK has it's first dictator since Cromwell. "All it takes for evil to flourish, is for good men to do nothing"
We can avoid economic long covid if we BUY BRITISH. Back British businesses and products. Holiday at home this year. The UK, is in a great position to pull out of this quickly.
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Adam Smith spent some considerable time demonstrating that international trade is what generates increases in wealth, not nationalist protectionism. You avoid economic long covid by developing export markets, not by living off turnips in February.
After the amount of disruption caused by the pandemic, some habits will change and the economy will need to adapt. WFH for instance will be here to stay to a greater or lesser extent and this will impact sectors like the hospitality sector. Things will be substantially different to 2019 even when all restrictions are gone.
The role of the Government should be to help facilitate the adjustment.
The role of the Government should be to help facilitate the adjustment.
The role of government is to get out of the way. Government spending is akin to giving yourself a blood transfusion from your right arm to your left arm, but in the process you spill half of the blood on the floor. Inefficient and wasteful, and a huge burden on the private sector.
Our economy just needs to adapt to the new reality, just as other economies do. The sooner it does that, the better off we will be. Looking at current rise the value of the pound, it seems the market believes we are already on the right track. We should remain positive and take whatever opportunities that present themselves. I think we'll be just fine.
Like what? Even your beloved Daily Express isn't British., It's owner lives in France, which is in the EU.
Considering the fact the the UK relies on 53% of all goods sold here to be imported into the UK then it's kinda hard if not impossible to "BUY BRITISH" when we don't even make/ manufacture most of the things we buy anymore !!!
Yeah because protectionism has always worked...?
BS; as usual.
Don't say it too loudly or the BBC will remove your comment, but the pound is surging against the dollar and euro and over 1000 business's have applied to do business in the City.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
If Boris does not the squander the initiative then the country looks like it's heading for boom time but if he gets it's wrong and keeps business locked down then it all would have been for nothing.
A rise in the pound should motivate you to innovate and improve your operation then you can complete with the whole world. After all it was the competition we faced when we joined the EU that drove us out of the post war depths and stopped us being the sick man of Europe.
Absolutely, with this sort of business news as reported by the BBC.
“Brexit: 1,000 EU finance firms 'set to open UK offices”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531
“Brexit: 1,000 EU finance firms 'set to open UK offices”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531
Drop in the ocean when London, as a global financial capital, is viewed as a whole. 7,000 jobs? One UK bank employs 80,000 plus - there are c.300 in UK from all over Europe etc