Henderson ruled out for up to 10 weeks
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Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson is ruled out for up to 10 weeks as a result of the groin injury he suffered against Everton.
I wish him a refreshing breeze.
From a hand-held fan.
From a hand-held fan.
They have Allison, Trent, Robertson, Kabak, Thiago, Wijnaldum, Salah, Mane and Firmino so enough first teamers. Just don't have good squad depth
Not much luck for Alisson at all lately LOL
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Liverpool are really unlucky. Must be awful being the only team to have injuries.
And the list grows and grows....now Klopp has to use the newbies at the back surely?
Very underrated player, seems to be the heartbeat of the Liverpool team.
Underrated?? Henderson is one of those players who is praised way beyond his contribution. He is very highly rated by the media. No matter how ineffectual he has been he is always marked highly. In my opinion he is continually and
vastly overrated.
vastly overrated.
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Until the last 2 seasons, he wasn't rated by many people. Jordan Henderson did the dirty work in midfield and cleaned up when required. If you think he is underrated, you know nothing about football.
Very over rated I'm afraid, if he was good he would be up there with the best , but hes not. If you can find me his statistics and compare him to the greats of football then I will eat my words , oh!!@@@ you cant
AHAHAHAHA What a clown. Great defence of the title there Captain Bendo. Now sit down.
Oh but it's just Van Dijk is it?
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
You named 3 CB.
The question is why does he have no faith in anyone else? some of the young guys etc.
The question is why does he have no faith in anyone else? some of the young guys etc.
It's Klopp's tactics and intensity of play that has lead to everyone getting injured.
If your best 5 centre backs include 2 midfielders then the club is poorly run.
Add Jota, Keita, (long term) and TAA, Becker, Chamberlain and Shaquiri who've also had spells on the sidelines
he's also responsible for keeping them fit. Do you understand the concept of a manager?
You like to tell anyone that will listen how big a club you are.get on with it.
Smack on mate! He is best thing to happen to Liverpool in decades!
Agree and think suggestions that Klopp could lose his job are ridiculous. Look at what the man has done for the club.
Erm, they lost 7-2 to villa with van dyke fit.. Wheels were coming off before the injuries, and you cant run the same 11 players into the ground for three years then cry when they all get injured
Lots of teams are having to cope with it. I support Leeds and I could say that without injuries we would be challenging for a Champions league spot if we hadn’t had injuries to Koch, Rodrigo, Llorente, Phillips and several other players for large parts of the season
He and the awful fans will be working on next season's excuse already.
He's had that for 4 of the 5 years in charge & won a ECL against a poor Spurs team & a EPL title under exceptional circumstanxes, nothing else to note (World club cup is a poor version of the League cup). And you've named 3 CB's not 5 so whatever happens he's done not a great deal but run the players into the ground then asked for more, he shoulb be called Oliver Klopp...
Why would Klopp not keeping his job be on anyone's agenda?
Crazy talk from whatever source starts this nonsense.
I'm not a LFC supporter but I sincerely doubt any genuine fan would entertain such a notion.
Keep it real people.
Crazy talk from whatever source starts this nonsense.
I'm not a LFC supporter but I sincerely doubt any genuine fan would entertain such a notion.
Keep it real people.
My problem with Klopp is his refusal to play other players at centre back. His decision to drop Nat Phillips was ridiculous and there was absolutely no excuse to keep playing Henderson there.
Poor management, not investing time in youth within the academy. He should have put more faith in Liverpool as a club.
For that he deserves to go.
For that he deserves to go.
As you say No team could cope with that! and their not. Tough at the top matey..Get on with it.
Don't care. Liverpool had a full month in January to sort it out and didn't. They also arrogantly settled with pretty much the same squad that won the league last season. Stood still. No sympathy form me.
Such a funny post. The CBS are the reason they haven’t been able to score at their own stadium? The team doesn’t have depth, when they were firing on all guns last season, it worked, now they aren’t, and there’s no one who’s been given the opportunity in the last 2 years to shine (Minamino, Origi, Shaqiri). So they enter with 50% confidence and don’t perform.
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
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Argueable, in themselves they are the best options, but playing Hendo & Fabinho takes too much away from the midfield. As defensive midfielders they're way ahead of the rest. It has created more problems than it solved.
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
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Argueable, in themselves they are the best options, but playing Hendo & Fabinho takes too much away from the midfield. As defensive midfielders they're way ahead of the rest. It has created more problems than it solved.
Well the lpool fans got what they wanted, Hendo won't be played at CB anymore. More Kabak please ??
People can say that every team has injuries, but to have your best three CBs injured, plus your two back-up CBs injured is extremely unlucky.
I think Liverpool's problem is their squad depth. Their best 11 is arguably the best in the league, but their overall squad is far from it.
I think Liverpool's problem is their squad depth. Their best 11 is arguably the best in the league, but their overall squad is far from it.
Henderson is not a CB - You are right about the lack of depth, should have given someone else a run out by now.
Perfect summary
I agree the squad lacks depth but trying to cope with the loss of your first 5 choices in central defence would cause every team a problem....even Man City (who are the strongest by far)
This year has become a write off - lets hope Liverpool regroup and start off 21/22 season in their previous glorious form!
I agree the squad lacks depth but trying to cope with the loss of your first 5 choices in central defence would cause every team a problem....even Man City (who are the strongest by far)
This year has become a write off - lets hope Liverpool regroup and start off 21/22 season in their previous glorious form!
I would counter this and say that it is Liverpool’s style of play combined with the fixture congestion that has done this and it isn’t just luck.
You can’t run and press for three years straight and hope to get away with it.
You can’t run and press for three years straight and hope to get away with it.
They don’t have two back up CBs injured, they just bought two
Yes you have nailed it. You are right
Because klopp has average academy & U23 players and has to buy every player, he shouldn't spend a £150mil fortune on 2 players and then moan EVERY day about basically 2 key players missing
lfc regularly play a team of 75%1st choice international players so their is absolutely no excuse!!
Because klopp has average academy & U23 players and has to buy every player, he shouldn't spend a £150mil fortune on 2 players and then moan EVERY day about basically 2 key players missing
lfc regularly play a team of 75%1st choice international players so their is absolutely no excuse!!
Correct. Some seasons a team has no injuries and doesn't realise how lucky they are. The next season they get a whole load to balance it up and can't really complain.
We all like to think our team is the best but comparing LFC's strongest 11 and MC's strongest 11, I think City have it by a whisker because of the quality in midfield that Liverpool don't have. Other areas of the pitch they are on a par. City also don't rely on only their forwards to score goals either. Liverpool's midfield need to chip in more than they do.
Extremely unlucky, yes. But they only won the league last year because they have been extremely lucky with injuries for the last two seasons. It all evens out.
Having said that, they've had a transfer window where they could have remedied their situation. Any talk of injury crisis as an excuse at this point is ludicrous.
Having said that, they've had a transfer window where they could have remedied their situation. Any talk of injury crisis as an excuse at this point is ludicrous.
I can sympathise as a leeds fan, we've had 2/3 cbs out all season, yet the pundits question our so called terrible defence
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Neither Henderson or Fabinho are Liverpool's back up CBs so that's Klopp's fault.
The problem Liverpool has is after Van Dijk there's a big fall off. Matip is good enough but injury prone.
The excuses are just that, excuses. Put it this way, if Van Dijk was fit they'd get by with Phillips. But if Phillips had to play with Matip they'd struggle. Phillips with Gomez they'd be all over the place.
The problem Liverpool has is after Van Dijk there's a big fall off. Matip is good enough but injury prone.
The excuses are just that, excuses. Put it this way, if Van Dijk was fit they'd get by with Phillips. But if Phillips had to play with Matip they'd struggle. Phillips with Gomez they'd be all over the place.
That’s a bit of a contradiction isn’t it? You point out the clubs 3 best and 2 backup centre backs are injured, so 5 centre backs in total, then critics squad depth? Just how many centre backs do you expect them to have?? No club in the land could cope with the injuries Liverpool have endured this season. A more pertinent question is whether playing style, rather than squad depth, has contributed.
All central defenders and then the midfielders who played in central defence injured! Never seen anything like this!
To rub salt in the wound it’s another injury against the bitters...
To rub salt in the wound it’s another injury against the bitters...
Nice try, MC's Kompany missed a total of 153 games throughout his MC career and that doesn't include European or Domestic Cup games.
And I won't even bother mentioning Aguerro or Silva.
None of those 3 had an impact replacement - not one.
And yet they still managed to wins trophies and at a minimum... be in contention.
And I won't even bother mentioning Aguerro or Silva.
None of those 3 had an impact replacement - not one.
And yet they still managed to wins trophies and at a minimum... be in contention.
Liverpool's league defence turning into a disaster season. They're relying on the CL to make anything out of 2020/21 now.
and in that competition they have Bob Hope and no hope.
Bayern, PSG or City will rip them a new one, assuming they get through to the last 8 or fluke it to the semis.
Bayern, PSG or City will rip them a new one, assuming they get through to the last 8 or fluke it to the semis.
For two seasons the work rate and goal scoring of Mane,Salahand Firmino have been incredible..but from open play LFC midfield have not scored enough goals to help them... now these 3 have dropped off so have the goals...
Henderson’s goal scoring record in last 4 years when playing in such a great team is poor.
Yes he works hard but goals scored and assists not good enough
Henderson’s goal scoring record in last 4 years when playing in such a great team is poor.
Yes he works hard but goals scored and assists not good enough
What I could never understand is WHY the reds were running around PNE (no disrespect to them) for a new centre back when most top backs around Europe would have dashed to Liverpool if they had been called in January I know you pay more in the winter window but you get what you pay for!
The only reason is all the top defenders are cup tied in Europe and secondly who would come to Liverpool to play for 2-3 months then be on the bench when Virgil is back
Other than Man United spunking £37 million on some kid who's never started a senior game of football. No team spent big money this winter.
The loss of matchday income is costing clubs 10's of millions of pounds. Most cannot afford to go out and sign a "top European centre back"
The loss of matchday income is costing clubs 10's of millions of pounds. Most cannot afford to go out and sign a "top European centre back"
Quite correct. I am a PNE supporter and I can tell you that Ben Davies is not up to the standard required for Premier League football. He is the most over-rated and over-hyped player to pull on the white shirt at Deepdale. Good luck to the lad for securing a move to Anfield but time will tell .....
Just not Liverpool's season with all the injuries.
Heart goes out to Allison Becker though, deepest condolences
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Heart goes out to Allison Becker though, deepest condolences
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I second the comment about Allison Becker.
Indeed, deepest condolences to Allison Becker and his family.
Agreed with you there. Sport is something but real life matters take precedence. Condolences to AB, hope Henderson is back soon.
Yep, you'll never walk alone Allison.
Unless of course you receive a nasty concussion injury in a CL final and then let a goal in, in which case your manager and teammates will very much let you walk alone and then blame you for losing the game before kicking you out of the club.
Unless of course you receive a nasty concussion injury in a CL final and then let a goal in, in which case your manager and teammates will very much let you walk alone and then blame you for losing the game before kicking you out of the club.
Well, if I'd called my sons Alison and Muriel......
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Absolutely appalling. Have the BBC stopped vetting comments before they go on? Some of the replies in this thread suggest not.
I crushed a grape this morning.
I crushed 6 grape ps this morning. Mind the gap
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Liverpool fans here don’t give me respect. What do you expect?
Any Juergen kloppp who lost his mother
Injuries, Liverpool have had no more injuries than any other team. Just excuses, City have had bigger injuries...VDV is the only big one...Gomez (haha)...Liverpool got very lucky not having any injuries last year given the thin squad....face it, you got lucky
YAWN ,your lot have singing about a airplane disaster for years,but I suppose that’s ok because it’s not your fault is it
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Why all the headlines about missing England games who cares about them its Liverpool that's important not England
Haters this season: Liverpool only won the league cod they got lucky with injuries
Haters this season: We all get injuries, it's the same for every team
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Haters this season: We all get injuries, it's the same for every team
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Is there a term worse than 'haters'? The word 'like' is close but not sure it beats it.
If you average out the lack of injuries over the past 1or 2 seasons with the high number this season it averages out to an expected normal level. Thing is you have to do the same with achievements levels...:)
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
City owners pump money into the club for buying players and building a squad (not just a team) of players. Liverpool and United owners cream off the profits and remain short sighted...
Kompany was 1 player though. And look how much City struggled last season with Laporte out injured. Liverpool have lost their 5 first choice CBs. Even City wouldn't cope with that, although City's squad is undoubtedly stronger.
Your no city fan pal the injury free bit give you away city have had plenty this season.
Apologies I read your post wrong.
I have to disagree. City has the best 11 based on form. I agree however, it’s about depth. Losing Aguero for most of the season hasn’t stopped us scoring goals, but not at the same level. Losing DeBruyne for 6 weeks hasn’t stopped us over-running midfield. We have 3 world-class CBs. that is the main difference, along with a massively strong midfield, all of whom can play in multiple positions.
Best in the country?? they aren't even the best in Liverpool !!
Henderson isn't important england. We have a good young squad with players like mount, maddson and grelish.
Henderson is 31, time for the abattoir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Henderson is 31, time for the abattoir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's taken City 10 years to build their present team, having had excellent players and managers and undoubted home success but not yet competing at the highest European level.
Despite their success, Liverpool will still need considerable investment if they also hope to Dominate over the next decade.
The new reality is that top teams really need to have two first team squads these days!
Despite their success, Liverpool will still need considerable investment if they also hope to Dominate over the next decade.
The new reality is that top teams really need to have two first team squads these days!
You're a disgrace to City fans IF YOU ARE ONE. You should be ashamed of yourself if you are. I secretly think you're a scouser in disguise though in truth.
Yeah agree with this 100%. Not being owned by a country or an oligarch has had a massive effect. City and Chelsea can now but whom they want and following UEFA's embarassing climb down there is nothing to stop them making the playing field more uneven.
They are the most physical side in the prem and diving experts
Even the first 11, when they were fit, were no where near the standards of last season, most of them were living off their reputation, but you're right our bench was always our weakness ??
No matey, city team is by far the best and squad too. You have to say manager also as klopp has failed to build his squad like pep has, failed to adapt to injuries and departures like pep has. When your best players on the bench are both a stoke and an arsenal reject you got problems, the very same problems hes facing now.
Oh but it's just Van Dijk is it?
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
Note how I said 5 best options.......
And he did give the kids a chance. They just weren't ready to play senior football at the highest level.
And he did give the kids a chance. They just weren't ready to play senior football at the highest level.
I am sure Southampton must have more players to flog to them
Just look at the all the English players , how many playing in Premiership , Full of foreign players . Who is to blame....
Exactly bob, why yave a reserve or youth team if you wont throw them in the deep end? If other teams took that view would we ever have known of messi, mbappe, haarland, saka, foden, et all? Klopps answe to losing best defender was to voluntarily lose his best midfielder by putting hendo back there. Madness
3 isn't enough obviously most teams have 4 with seasoned and young players Liverpol should have bought last summer they always offload if they have too many you can't buy in a panic
No, the comment said "Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are" meaning that the 2 midfielders (Fabinho & Henderson) are better options than any additional rookie CBs that are on the books. First 5 choices to play in the position not available. Simple. And devastating to any team
Oh but it's just Van Dijk is it?
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
I'm not sure what Klopps tactics have got to do with Van Dijk being snapped by Pickford.
Or Gomez getting injured during England training.
Those 2 injuries made it harder to rotate the squad which lead to further injuries in that position.
Also no-one complained about Klopps tactics causing injuries the previous 5 years.
Use your brain before you type next time.
Or Gomez getting injured during England training.
Those 2 injuries made it harder to rotate the squad which lead to further injuries in that position.
Also no-one complained about Klopps tactics causing injuries the previous 5 years.
Use your brain before you type next time.
Rubbish. Are you saying that Pickford's lunge on VVD was down to Klopp's style of play? You would make a good pundit alongside Jermaine Jenas. He comes out with pearls of wisdom like that.
As if they couldn't get hit with even more injury problems.
Who's next Klopp? Although, with the injuries his team has had, no one should be questioning his abilities as a manager if any other manager would be in his position they would be mid -table going nowhere this season... props to him.
Who's next Klopp? Although, with the injuries his team has had, no one should be questioning his abilities as a manager if any other manager would be in his position they would be mid -table going nowhere this season... props to him.
I suppose it's easier than using your brain and thinking of one yourself.
Who votes this down? What sort of person sits there and reads a comment offering condolences to a man who has just lost his father and will be unable to return home for the funeral and to be with his family? If you are one of those people who thought it either funny or did it simply because of who he plays football for, you have my deepest sympathies for your pathetic actions!
Of course we're sad for Alisson's Dad, but let's also mourn for:
Alberto
Alfons
Amedeo
Andrea
Antonio
Barbara
Benito
Bruno
Claude
Claudio
Dionisio
Dirk
Domenico Ragazzi
Domenico Russo
Eugenio
Francesco
Franco
Giancarlo's B & G
Gianfranco
Gianni
Giovacchino
Giovanni
Giuseppina
Jacques
Jean Michel
Loris
Luciano
Luigi
Mario's R & S
Nino
Patrick
Roberto
Rocco
Sergio
Tarcisio's S & V
Willy
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Alberto
Alfons
Amedeo
Andrea
Antonio
Barbara
Benito
Bruno
Claude
Claudio
Dionisio
Dirk
Domenico Ragazzi
Domenico Russo
Eugenio
Francesco
Franco
Giancarlo's B & G
Gianfranco
Gianni
Giovacchino
Giovanni
Giuseppina
Jacques
Jean Michel
Loris
Luciano
Luigi
Mario's R & S
Nino
Patrick
Roberto
Rocco
Sergio
Tarcisio's S & V
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Liverpool have not had a great deal of luck with injuries this season.
Wish him all the best from a non league fan.
Wish him all the best from a non league fan.
What I could never understand is WHY the reds were running around PNE (no disrespect to them) for a new centre back when most top backs around Europe would have dashed to Liverpool if they had been called in January I know you pay more in the winter window but you get what you pay for!
An online Book of Condolence, in addition to this one, will be available on the Echo’s website from midday.
Pretty accurate. Remember when both teams got to the same position a season apart. Echo had eight page special for Reds and Everton got one column. Echo bias is embarrassing. They behave like a teenage girl at a OneDirection concert when it comes to the Reds.
What I could never understand is WHY the reds were running around PNE (no disrespect to them) for a new centre back when most top backs around Europe would have dashed to Liverpool if they had been called in January I know you pay more in the winter window but you get what you pay for!
LFC owners are billionaires players ARE investments you build a squad Virgil would fight for his place against a top one when he is fit again btw most teams are getting MOST of their income through sponsorship and television the fans on the seats aren't as financially everything any more LFC could afford most top CBs in Europe but the "cup tied" business stands up I know
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
Ha! Some of this is true esp when it comes to the Glaziers at Utd but there is a huge difference between how much capital the owners of City and Chelsea have compared to FSG at Liverpool. City and Chelsea can buy whom they want.
Trevor, you do realise the current owner of Liverpool took on a £280 million debt, wrote it off and then won the league and the CL and got to another final all in 10 years? They dont cream off anything. The Coutino money purchased Allison and most of Van Dijk. They were infinately better that Hicks and Gilette, but you make up BS based on no evidence like most who hate Liverpool.
Yes but they have to do that, otherwise their sportswashing regime won't really work.
Other football clubs haven't bombed Yemen to mass starvation, enslaved immigrants or deprived women (and plenty of men) of basic human rights, therefore they can, and need to, act like a solvent business and not a money pit.
Other football clubs haven't bombed Yemen to mass starvation, enslaved immigrants or deprived women (and plenty of men) of basic human rights, therefore they can, and need to, act like a solvent business and not a money pit.
People can say that every team has injuries, but to have your best three CBs injured, plus your two back-up CBs injured is extremely unlucky.
I think Liverpool's problem is their squad depth. Their best 11 is arguably the best in the league, but their overall squad is far from it.
I think Liverpool's problem is their squad depth. Their best 11 is arguably the best in the league, but their overall squad is far from it.
He’s been the back up though hence the OPs statement
Liverpool have not had a great deal of luck with injuries this season.
Wish him all the best from a non league fan.
Wish him all the best from a non league fan.
Liverpool have been incredibly unlucky with injuries, but it does highlight the lack of depth in their squad, and Klopp's obvious distrust of the youngsters in his academy - after all, he could easily have played one of those in the dead-rubber Champions League game, in which Jota was injured.
But then last season they were lucky with having no significant injuries. Just shows you how fickle the game is and how fortunes can change.
Liverpool do actually promote from the academy.
Trent, Kellegher, Jones, Elliott, Neco Williams, Rhys Williams,
I could argue that Gomez joined the academy first...
How many do you want?
City have been trying 3-4 years now to get a spot for Foden, but they can't as they keep buying 60m players constantly ..
Trent, Kellegher, Jones, Elliott, Neco Williams, Rhys Williams,
I could argue that Gomez joined the academy first...
How many do you want?
City have been trying 3-4 years now to get a spot for Foden, but they can't as they keep buying 60m players constantly ..
LFC problems are not scoring goals....
The front 3 look worn out 2 years of brilliance and pressing is taking its toll...
Look at goals scored in last 5 home games ...
The front 3 look worn out 2 years of brilliance and pressing is taking its toll...
Look at goals scored in last 5 home games ...
Well Jota has been injured too. He was getting a goal every 90 minutes when fit......
Well when a team has to play two thirds of its starting midfield in defence...
"2 years of brilliance".... or maybe watch the interview Stephen Howson did with Alan Moore 3 months ago that predicted exactly how this has played out. Uncanny! It's titled 'Why Liverpool Won't Win The League'.
brilliance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE
A penalty.
Boo hoo. All teams have injuries. They are £200 million and going nowhere fast. laughing our socks off here on Merseyside.
Since 1995...worry about your own club lad????
I've gone through 4,500 pairs of socks laughing at you lot..................i suppose one pair for you lot is allowed
All the injuries, points dropped, no goals - horrendous form - but they’re still above the Billionaire owned, free spending Everton in the league table - if you can’t finish above Liverpool this season, will you ever?
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
He left but remains a legend; remember the goal against Leicester, 'No Vinny don't shoot'! But he, like Henderson, lead from the front and when he wasn't on the field we suffered. Pep has moved the squad on so injuries to individuals has less of an impact. Money and forward thinking...City are a total club.
Klopp has gone backwards in my managerial estimation by playing midfielders in defence. He had Philips as backup but didn't trust him. My 7 yar old son after two games said that it wasn't working defensively with midfielders out of position , but Klopp continued for another 6 games and then bought two rubbish Defenders??? Those 6 games will cost a top 4 place. Unbelievable schoolboy error.
I think we have missed Henderson for a while now due to playing him as a center half get him fit and put him back in midfield
Chance for Ben Davies to step up with Fabinho
YNWA great club
Chance for Ben Davies to step up with Fabinho
YNWA great club
The problem is that the term 'haters' is often used when someone doesn't agree with you. So it is often used out of context.
Oh but it's just Van Dijk is it?
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
Liverpool's best 5 options at CB are:
1) Van Dijk
2) Gomez
3) Matip
4) Fabinho
5) Henderson
All of whom are injured.
No team could cope with that.
No matter where Liverpool finish, Klopp deserves to keep his job after what he's done over the last 5 years. Judge him again next season when he actually has the players to do something.
No it's called versatility. Man City used Fernandinho when they had CB issues last season.
The reality is, no club has 5 senior center backs. You just don't expect to get that many injuries in 1 position.
The reality is, no club has 5 senior center backs. You just don't expect to get that many injuries in 1 position.
Right, who cursed the Liverpool defence? Come on now, own up.
It is funny though, people saying "every team has injuries". They do. Just Liverpool have more & they seem to be hitting their centre defence.
Only 5 of Liverpools 1st team squad haven't spent at least 3 weeks out injured this season and they have the most 1st team members missing the most days. Any team would struggle with that.
It is funny though, people saying "every team has injuries". They do. Just Liverpool have more & they seem to be hitting their centre defence.
Only 5 of Liverpools 1st team squad haven't spent at least 3 weeks out injured this season and they have the most 1st team members missing the most days. Any team would struggle with that.
True - although you do need to understand why you’re getting so many (VVD aside) - Klopp has run this team into the ground
Swings and roundabouts, got incredibly lucky with injuries last season which helped win the league.
Karma for TAA's girly push on Sane's back in last season's Community Shield that put him out for the season with an ACL injury.
I'm just surprised Pickford's name hasn't been mentioned.
I thought it was truly ridiculous that he tried to carry on for a further few mins after pulling up like that. As no love for lfc...when I say ridiculous... I mean funny. But you all get that.
"If Man United had Liverpool's level of injuries, they would be 10th" - Rio Ferdinand
So all the man United fans saying "Liverpool fans are making excuses" can pipe down!! Even your own legends agree it's impossible to deal with 5 serious injuries in 1 position.
So all the man United fans saying "Liverpool fans are making excuses" can pipe down!! Even your own legends agree it's impossible to deal with 5 serious injuries in 1 position.
Ferdinand makes Chris Sutton seem intelligent so hardly a gauge for comparison!!
'united legend'?? Getting out jumped by 5' 7" Messi in the UCL Final makes him a cretin in my book. Removed
'united legend'?? Getting out jumped by 5' 7" Messi in the UCL Final makes him a cretin in my book. Removed
Utd are a one man team carried by Fernandes. He just needs to be injured for 3 months and they will be 10th.
In the main the injuries are down to over-playing. Possibly not Klopp's fault as I suspect he is not well-backed in the market, but he has done this before. There is no way any team could keep that intensity going.
Rio who dodged a drugs test, running off into hiding? He is just another robotic pundit with the brief to praise liverpool no matter what, ignore klopps glaring failings to adapt tactics and to strengthen his squad, or the 'world class' attack who cant score no more?
but defense has not been the major issue has it!!
liverpool have been pretty good defensively.
it is going forward that they have been terrible in most games.
time to stop using the defense excuse because it is only an excuse.offensively liverpool have been bang average
liverpool have been pretty good defensively.
it is going forward that they have been terrible in most games.
time to stop using the defense excuse because it is only an excuse.offensively liverpool have been bang average
LEG END, Your aving a larf!!!
Yes blaming injuries is ok. Blaming the length of the grass, the wind, the referees and Allisons feet being cold is just embarrassing.
Well the lpool fans got what they wanted, Hendo won't be played at CB anymore. More Kabak please ??
As always, great excuses la.
Of the two teams that have hurt Liverpool this season - Everton and Man U. They must be living a nightmare. Where's the champagne?
Bitterness bitterness the only thing that the blues possess...you know the rest ??
Yes your right Everton have hurt Liverpool this season with two of the most horrendous tackles i have ever seen
I'm not a Liverpool fan but I find it hilarious and slightly embarrassing that Everton players, staff and fans are celebrating like they've won the Champions League, just because they beat Liverpool in how many years? I mean, it's not like you've been bang average for what 25 /30 years, is it?
As a blue I’m not the least bit sad they are struggling but let’s focus on us. Hopefully in the next few seasons we advance but for now we are seventh and may or not get any higher? Hardly open top bus material yet! In fact the last team we won anything the players carried the trophy around in a charabanc.
Not exactly an illness is it? Gives Mrs Henderson a well earned rest as well....
He left but remains a legend; remember the goal against Leicester, 'No Vinny don't shoot'! But he, like Henderson, lead from the front and when he wasn't on the field we suffered. Pep has moved the squad on so injuries to individuals has less of an impact. Money and forward thinking...City are a total club.
Why are they in the Prem squad then?
Sold Loveren and now has panic buys who are way out of their depth.
Sold Loveren and now has panic buys who are way out of their depth.
They still should abide by financial fair play rules though.
Zzz. Man city owners don't need and don't put money into the club
sorry but thats a bit of a myth and as such very misleading..
yes SM is a very wealthy individual but he is also a very shrewd businessman.... he invested heavily at the start to bring City up to speed but you will not see any marquee signings or splashing on 100m players any time soon
yes SM is a very wealthy individual but he is also a very shrewd businessman.... he invested heavily at the start to bring City up to speed but you will not see any marquee signings or splashing on 100m players any time soon
I second the comment about Allison Becker.
Poor reply to someone being gracious.
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You pillock
you obviously dont have a brain
The only player in history to get a free kick for pulling up with a groin strain !
Fernandes got a penalty for stamping on a defenders shin so that wins.
The ref interpreted it at the time that he'd been fouled - says more about the quality of the refereeing. Don't believe Henderson accused or even gestured otherwise.
Pogba won a penalty for tripping himself up. So that wins.
LFC have really missed Hendo in midfield since christmas. He is so clever at standing in the right place. Very underratted.
In fairness to the Bitters, their owner is building them a new ground and the Reds' owners are billionaires too AND they should have bought a top quality centre half in January
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
if you think Laporte was our only injury last season youre mistaken.... City had more first team players out last season ( and at the beginning of this season) than LFC have now
Which five? I count Matip, Van Dyke and Gomez. Who are the other two? Henderson and Fabinho aren't centre backs!!! And you do have other fit CBs!!
Scandalous that physio sent him back out to run it off. Needs sacking on the spot
Silly comment. The injury was already done whether he ran back on the field or not, it's a pretty common procedure to let the player have 5 minutes and see how the injury goes.
When you have players who want to run through brick walls who lie to medical professionals ("I'm okay") then what could they do? The last one who did that to the Special One got fired...
Everton and Liverpool share a lot of history when it comes to loss - ‘and if you know your history’, you’d do well to put the banter to one side and show some empathy for a bloke that’s lost his Dad.
Not a true evertonian you lad are you from North Wales or the Midlands?
Klopp has gone backwards in my managerial estimation by playing midfielders in defence. He had Philips as backup but didn't trust him. My 7 yar old son after two games said that it wasn't working defensively with midfielders out of position , but Klopp continued for another 6 games and then bought two rubbish Defenders??? Those 6 games will cost a top 4 place. Unbelievable schoolboy error.
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
It's Klopp's tactics and intensity of play that has lead to everyone getting injured.
I'm not sure what Klopps tactics have got to do with Van Dijk being snapped by Pickford.
Or Gomez getting injured during England training.
Those 2 injuries made it harder to rotate the squad which lead to further injuries in that position.
Also no-one complained about Klopps tactics causing injuries the previous 5 years.
Use your brain before you type next time.
Or Gomez getting injured during England training.
Those 2 injuries made it harder to rotate the squad which lead to further injuries in that position.
Also no-one complained about Klopps tactics causing injuries the previous 5 years.
Use your brain before you type next time.
thats because they didnt get injured as much as this year???
Everyone knew that the tactics were putting massive strain on the players & they'd been incredibly lucky with injuries previously.
If only Van Dijk was available would Klopp break up his MF instead of playing Phillips? Of course not except for the odd game maybe.
If only Gomez was available would Klopp partner him with Phillips as the solution? Not a chance.
That's the issue in a nutshell.
If only Van Dijk was available would Klopp break up his MF instead of playing Phillips? Of course not except for the odd game maybe.
If only Gomez was available would Klopp partner him with Phillips as the solution? Not a chance.
That's the issue in a nutshell.
LFC have really missed Hendo in midfield since christmas. He is so clever at standing in the right place. Very underratted.
All the injuries, points dropped, no goals - horrendous form - but they’re still above the Billionaire owned, free spending Everton in the league table - if you can’t finish above Liverpool this season, will you ever?
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
Prepare for whining like you have never seen.
Your no city fan pal the injury free bit give you away city have had plenty this season.
this season we have been dogged by SEASON ending injuries in central defence and now our defensive midfielders keep getting injured, all bad news, VOID the season now(LOL), seriously though Liverpool season is over, start afresh with a fully fit squad next season and we will be at it from the get go. beware next season will be better that last season. UP THE REDS, COME ON YOU REDMEN.
Right, who cursed the Liverpool defence? Come on now, own up.
It is funny though, people saying "every team has injuries". They do. Just Liverpool have more & they seem to be hitting their centre defence.
Only 5 of Liverpools 1st team squad haven't spent at least 3 weeks out injured this season and they have the most 1st team members missing the most days. Any team would struggle with that.
It is funny though, people saying "every team has injuries". They do. Just Liverpool have more & they seem to be hitting their centre defence.
Only 5 of Liverpools 1st team squad haven't spent at least 3 weeks out injured this season and they have the most 1st team members missing the most days. Any team would struggle with that.
Agreed. Injuries from tackles you cannot legislate for. However, the number who are missing through muscle problems etc is frightening.
I agree. They were pushed to the limits for 2 seasons and that has taken its toll. But in a normal season, they may have coped better. It has been exacerbated by the intensity of this season, with so many matches coming so quickly and the lack of a proper pre-season, which explains why all clubs are experiencing higher injury rates.
As a City fan I understand that the first Liverpool 11 is probably the best in the country but beyond that its weak. Liverpool, unlike City, have been able to be injury free but now key players are getting injured (remember Kompany) the cracks are showing. Henderson is a key player and important for England, I hope he gets better soon.
I have to disagree. City has the best 11 based on form. I agree however, it’s about depth. Losing Aguero for most of the season hasn’t stopped us scoring goals, but not at the same level. Losing DeBruyne for 6 weeks hasn’t stopped us over-running midfield. We have 3 world-class CBs. that is the main difference, along with a massively strong midfield, all of whom can play in multiple positions.
You can probably argue this many ways, much depends on the luck on the field, and we certainly were not getting the rub for many years. Its hard now to decide who's City best 11 are, but like Alf Ramsey, the best 11 don't necessarily make the best team and Liverpools best 11 happen to be a great team.
Prepare for whining like you have never seen.
Apologies I read your post wrong.
Liverpool's league defence turning into a disaster season. They're relying on the CL to make anything out of 2020/21 now.
Other than Man United spunking £37 million on some kid who's never started a senior game of football. No team spent big money this winter.
The loss of matchday income is costing clubs 10's of millions of pounds. Most cannot afford to go out and sign a "top European centre back"
The loss of matchday income is costing clubs 10's of millions of pounds. Most cannot afford to go out and sign a "top European centre back"
LFC owners are billionaires players ARE investments you build a squad Virgil would fight for his place against a top one when he is fit again btw most teams are getting MOST of their income through sponsorship and television the fans on the seats aren't as financially everything any more LFC could afford most top CBs in Europe but the "cup tied" business stands up I know
this season we have been dogged by SEASON ending injuries in central defence and now our defensive midfielders keep getting injured, all bad news, VOID the season now(LOL), seriously though Liverpool season is over, start afresh with a fully fit squad next season and we will be at it from the get go. beware next season will be better that last season. UP THE REDS, COME ON YOU REDMEN.
this season we have been dogged by SEASON ending injuries in central defence and now our defensive midfielders keep getting injured, all bad news, VOID the season now(LOL), seriously though Liverpool season is over, start afresh with a fully fit squad next season and we will be at it from the get go. beware next season will be better that last season. UP THE REDS, COME ON YOU REDMEN.
"If Man United had Liverpool's level of injuries, they would be 10th" - Rio Ferdinand
So all the man United fans saying "Liverpool fans are making excuses" can pipe down!! Even your own legends agree it's impossible to deal with 5 serious injuries in 1 position.
So all the man United fans saying "Liverpool fans are making excuses" can pipe down!! Even your own legends agree it's impossible to deal with 5 serious injuries in 1 position.
Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson has been ruled out for up to 10 weeks as a result of the groin injury he suffered against Everton.
The England midfielder, 30, was forced off in the first half in Saturday's 2-0 Merseyside derby defeat to add to the club's defensive problems.
He joins Virgil van Dijk, Joel Matip, Joe Gomez and Fabinho on the sidelines.
The England midfielder, 30, was forced off in the first half in Saturday's 2-0 Merseyside derby defeat to add to the club's defensive problems.
He joins Virgil van Dijk, Joel Matip, Joe Gomez and Fabinho on the sidelines.
what is klopp actually doing to these players??
Wish him all the best from a non league fan.