Schools back 8 March in England with Covid tests taken at home
22/02/2021 | news | education | 1,017
Parents of secondary school pupils will carry out Covid tests and face masks will be worn in class.
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22/02/2021 17:15:02 16 17
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Captain Hindsight with nothing useful to say as always.....

PM Johnson is still a worse PM than Mrs Thatcher was. (Just)
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22/02/2021 17:30:06 4 3
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Johnson is finally doing what everybody has said. Do things based on science not how popular it makes youlook,
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22/02/2021 17:15:33 8 38
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Too slow - should be faster
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22/02/2021 17:27:49 7 1
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Moronic comment.
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22/02/2021 17:33:07 0 4
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Here here ??????????????????????
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22/02/2021 17:15:39 18 32
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I cannot understand making schools the priority. Who is crying out for it? Not the teachers, that's for sure

Other businesses could be opened first with a lot less risk. Cutomers in a shop generally take social distancing seriously. Having seen the secondary school kids getting on the bus last October, I can't say the same for them at all.

Surely the economy's needs come first?
I bet your children hate you Removed
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22/02/2021 17:19:03 7 6
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Yes, teachers are crying out for it. So are the children.
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22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 6
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Your comment is the definition of selfish stupidity.
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22/02/2021 17:35:27 2 3
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Who are you kidding? Despite most shops trying, a significant minority of people don't stick to the 2m rules correctly and many still don't wear masks or sport them as token chin-warmers.

And as for kids on the bus, look at commuters on trains and buses - little difference except school bus is same kids each day but the tube is a different lot every journey.
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Nic
22/02/2021 17:50:59 3 1
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I’ve seen many grown adults in shops either not wearing masks, not keeping a distance or both. Having schools go back means less parents on voluntary furlough as they don’t have to look after their kids. That means less burden on the state. Plus a number of kids are roaming the streets out of boredom, so having them in schools means they are managed somewhat.
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22/02/2021 17:16:58 26 30
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Terrific news and absolutely the right decision.
Our children's futures are all that matter.
Lets hope this is managed carefully and that the unions support this move (that'll be a first)
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22/02/2021 17:28:32 11 5
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Our children's futures are all that matter.

What about teachers and support staff? Do they matter to you?
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22/02/2021 17:28:41 4 4
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Schools must go back. This is a political decision the govt are right to make.

Will it cause more infections. Probably.

Will it cause more deaths. Probably but not many due to the success of the vaccine roll out.

Is it worth it. Absolutely for the sake of the future opportunities of 10 million children.

If you disagree then there are local elections this summer and a general election in 2024.
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22/02/2021 17:28:11 1 3
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Agree
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cba
22/02/2021 17:39:36 4 5
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Not to me, it,s millions of lives that matter more as well as kids being sent into a hostile covid rife enviroment.Shameful
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22/02/2021 17:15:39 18 32
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I cannot understand making schools the priority. Who is crying out for it? Not the teachers, that's for sure

Other businesses could be opened first with a lot less risk. Cutomers in a shop generally take social distancing seriously. Having seen the secondary school kids getting on the bus last October, I can't say the same for them at all.

Surely the economy's needs come first?
I bet your children hate you Removed
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22/02/2021 17:19:19 5 2
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I don't have any. So it would be a bit difficult.

But there needs to be a viable economy for them when they do come out of school. Otherwise their education is not going to do them much good.
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22/02/2021 17:18:24 12 15
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Week commencing 8th March is going to be chaos in schools. More new routines. Kids refusing to wear masks in classrooms, kids being pulled left, right and centre out of classes to be tested.
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22/02/2021 17:32:21 8 2
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Blame the parents for the lack of respect in their children !
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22/02/2021 17:18:51 17 5
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The PM did say Data before Dates so let's hope the data improves ...
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22/02/2021 17:21:43 13 11
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The data has already been improving for several weeks - almost 2 months for infections and over a month for deaths which continue to fall much faster than after the first lockdown.
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22/02/2021 18:39:14 3 0
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The data from the successful inoculation program has given a boast to the lifting of the restrictions.
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22/02/2021 17:15:39 18 32
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I cannot understand making schools the priority. Who is crying out for it? Not the teachers, that's for sure

Other businesses could be opened first with a lot less risk. Cutomers in a shop generally take social distancing seriously. Having seen the secondary school kids getting on the bus last October, I can't say the same for them at all.

Surely the economy's needs come first?
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22/02/2021 17:19:03 7 6
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Yes, teachers are crying out for it. So are the children.
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22/02/2021 18:43:14 1 1
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Vulnerable parents and older relatives, siblings etc aren’t..
I bet your children hate you Removed
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22/02/2021 17:19:19 5 2
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I don't have any. So it would be a bit difficult.

But there needs to be a viable economy for them when they do come out of school. Otherwise their education is not going to do them much good.
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22/02/2021 17:19:42 169 69
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"The tests are voluntary and will operate "based on trust", officials said."
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We're in the state we're in because people have been "trusted" rather than being told what to do and those instructions being properly enforced.

I for one don't trust parents, many of whom struggle to tie their own shoelaces, to conduct tests at home and then do what is right when their kids pop positive.
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22/02/2021 17:28:10 64 22
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Got someone to blame in place already.
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22/02/2021 17:31:25 25 13
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Missed a vocation in the Stasi?
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22/02/2021 17:36:46 22 3
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Crikey the spirit of the Blitz lives on. You really don't have much faith in society do you. However, I do agree with you!
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Moz
22/02/2021 17:52:08 23 5
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Having had to spend half an hour trying to convince an 11 year old to take a test only for him to be practically sick whilst taking it and it then coming back inconclusive I am really not looking forward to this......
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22/02/2021 18:12:17 13 5
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They won't pat for school nurses to do the tests in school that's why.
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22/02/2021 18:18:25 22 14
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Totally agree with your comment. There is no way this is going to work. This pandemic has certainly shown there are far too many I'm alright Jacks. Perhaps employing people on the school gates to test the kids would be better.
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22/02/2021 18:49:34 11 5
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I'm sure there are plenty of teaching/support staff who would be delighted to shove a stick down the throats or ram it up the nose of some obnoxious children who have equally obnoxious parents. However, it is not their job. I also despair of some parents and agree they may find a stepped task beyond their abilities.
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22/02/2021 20:11:11 11 5
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Hi I'm a parent who can tie my shoelaces. I also own my own house and am degree educated. Judging by your comment you sound awful. cheers
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22/02/2021 21:05:32 4 7
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No, we’re in a mess because of the govt’s and it’s advisors failed policies. Most people have behaved extremely well and will, I’m sure, continue to do so.
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hvr
22/02/2021 21:18:42 4 5
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Why on earth test a healthy child? These tests are not approved by PHE or the MHRA for this purpose. This testing obsession has to stop and the budget and effort reallocated to something more beneficial.
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22/02/2021 21:22:49 5 3
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You obviously haven’t done any research on the lateral flow tests. The sensitivity of these tests is poor, even when done by a professional. I declined having my children tested when the consent forms came out in December, as I felt they could give a false sense of security. I would rather adopt the previous approach of, if in close contact with a case, you isolate for 10 days.
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22/02/2021 17:19:55 18 10
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A data driven reopening

Hey presto

A bunch of dates
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23/02/2021 09:53:17 1 0
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A bunch of dates dependent on data I think you'll find.
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22/02/2021 17:20:15 38 6
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It is reassuring there is solid information here on schools.

One thing that concerns me is the lack of information on universities. Students are paying for these services and it appears nothing has been said here, and it leaves students to the whim of university management in many cases.
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22/02/2021 17:22:46 14 4
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Nothing on FE colleges which operate quite differently to schools.
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22/02/2021 17:28:06 9 1
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Absolutely. My son is in final year at university and needs access to the science labs to do his dissertation. His vice chancellor has been so quiet on the issue one could almost think she is mute - bet he won't get any discount on the £9k p.a.
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:20:37 13 7
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And Keir has said teachers should not strike and that they may have to consider working during the holidays.

Texas must be hell, because it's clearly frozen over.
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22/02/2021 20:44:42 0 1
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Tell that to his union paymasters and see their reply
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22/02/2021 17:21:21 32 25
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The teachers I know come over as dedicated professionals who are keen to get kids back in the classroom. But their unions seem intent on giving the opposite impression.
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22/02/2021 17:39:26 9 3
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'Seem' being the key word. Don't believe everything you read in the Daily Wail etc. Surprisingly unions are there to look after their members, because don't always.
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22/02/2021 23:02:02 1 1
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'Seem' indeed. Please listen to what the unions are saying first hand and not to sound bites skewed by the right wing media; all they have ever done is press for the safest form of re-opening for all- and many of the dedicated staff you mention are proud and active members of these unions.
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22/02/2021 17:21:26 6 8
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on a different note, can anyone tell me when can go to the beach just for a day out in car,
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22/02/2021 17:31:28 3 2
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I've been to the beach today and bloody lovely it was too.
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cba
22/02/2021 17:32:59 1 2
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On a school trip.Probably
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22/02/2021 17:21:31 13 19
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:25:16 10 11
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Be like Bill. Be hysterical.
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22/02/2021 17:30:39 2 5
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I think you’ll find about 10,000 people die in the UK every week

Oh you just mean Covid and don’t consider any other deaths including ones caused by missee
cancer screenings and delayed surgery
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22/02/2021 17:30:43 2 4
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Silly Billy
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22/02/2021 17:33:53 1 4
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Well Bill, you stay indoors with all windows shut - and stay happy !
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22/02/2021 17:18:51 17 5
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The PM did say Data before Dates so let's hope the data improves ...
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22/02/2021 17:21:43 13 11
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The data has already been improving for several weeks - almost 2 months for infections and over a month for deaths which continue to fall much faster than after the first lockdown.
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22/02/2021 17:31:10 8 4
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Data has improved but at 10,000 new cases every day we have a long way to go. In Auckland they had 3 cases and shut the city of 1.5m down! We are nowhere near yet ...
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22/02/2021 18:07:25 6 1
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The fall in cases has stagnated in the past couple of weeks.
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22/02/2021 18:30:20 5 4
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Here's some data - by the 8th of March it will only be the over 70's & highest risk groups that are vaccinated. How many of 'em do you think were likely to be in chain of infection coming from schools?

It's 40+'s that are already filling the covid wards
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22/02/2021 20:45:17 2 1
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Patience before patients.
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22/02/2021 17:15:39 18 32
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I cannot understand making schools the priority. Who is crying out for it? Not the teachers, that's for sure

Other businesses could be opened first with a lot less risk. Cutomers in a shop generally take social distancing seriously. Having seen the secondary school kids getting on the bus last October, I can't say the same for them at all.

Surely the economy's needs come first?
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22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 6
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Your comment is the definition of selfish stupidity.
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22/02/2021 17:25:08 6 4
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If I'm the stupid one, how come you can't come up with a detailed counter argument? Use the 400 characters, demonstrate your wit and understanding of the wider issues.

Or did it take you 5 minutes to even type those 8 words?
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22/02/2021 17:21:49 44 12
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So testing kids at home will be voluntary?

So what’s the point - how are these tests going to be issued to kids and I will be waiting to see what happens when kids can turn up without having had one and the school tries to refuse entry.....
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22/02/2021 17:28:49 28 4
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yes - just tick the box on line to say negative and on we go!
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22/02/2021 17:29:54 6 30
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Teachers seem very unwilling to engage at all with getting children back in school. Leaving testing to parents seems to me like a cop out.
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22/02/2021 17:45:21 8 17
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I'm not shoving a giant cotton bud up my chikd's nose!
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22/02/2021 20:35:09 0 0
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Testing in schools is voluntary.

We have to have written consent from staff and parents.
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22/02/2021 17:21:55 18 18
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Ask yourself if there's any other area that could be opened first - shops, hospitality etc - that would be predicted to add 0.4 to the R rate.

Bet you won't find any that infectious.

Opening schools is probably the most risky choice with the least gain.
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22/02/2021 17:22:00 153 62
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Poor government: damned if they do, damned if they don't! They open schools, somebody is shouting - irresponsible, they don't open schools - somebody is shouting about damage to nation's children's education!!
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22/02/2021 17:29:17 39 58
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Maybe it should be put to a referendum so that people can accept the decision?
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22/02/2021 17:31:13 21 22
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Every so often I daydream about the chaos of a Corbynite government dealing with this.
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22/02/2021 17:34:48 34 11
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Schools going back is a political decision by the government.

Will it cause more infections. Probably.

Will it cause more deaths. Probably but not many due to the success of the vaccine roll out.

Is it worth it. Absolutely for the sake of the future opportunities of 10 million children.

If you disagree then there are local elections this summer and a general election in 2024.
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22/02/2021 17:46:51 23 26
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"Poor Government" they've already massively contributed to well over 100,000 deaths and counting by their dithering and not closing borders, unusable PPE, unworkable Track and Trace right at the start, not closing down early enough, ie Cheltenham races, need I go on! Read the facts please.
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22/02/2021 17:50:07 23 19
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Poor government? It’s partly down to their ineptitude that we are in this mess.
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22/02/2021 17:50:48 12 5
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My concern, as a public health professional, is the reliance on home lateral flow tests. A negative is only truly negative if the swab is put in the correct part of the oropharynx.
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22/02/2021 18:02:35 13 5
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Is 10+million going back on 8th March a 'cautious approach'?
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22/02/2021 18:04:37 11 3
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Poor government!!?? They’ve been an absolute disgrace in handling this crisis.
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22/02/2021 18:05:56 5 1
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Isn't that the case for most issues, and the experience for every government? People will always disagree on policies. If the current government can't cope with that they shouldn't have gone into politics. Out of all the people you could feel sorry for - cabinet ministers in secure jobs being paid six figure salaries to run the country.
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22/02/2021 18:48:29 9 4
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Poor government!!!!! Total shambles start to finish. Only thing they've ever gotten right was buying a shedload of vacines. Other than that, corrupt, inept and useless.
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22/02/2021 19:14:03 3 3
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135,000 deaths

And your conclusion is poor government ?????
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22/02/2021 23:05:41 0 1
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Somebody else who has been successfully brainwashed by boris. Open your eyes.
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23/02/2021 06:38:51 0 0
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Of course. Open schools and teachers don't like it. Close schools and parents don't like it. Is that not obvious?
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23/02/2021 18:47:47 0 0
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Damn right. Poor government. Very poor government. In fact appalling government
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22/02/2021 17:22:34 55 14
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Attendance compulsory from 8th March but they've just extended shielding until 31st March As shielding is "only" advisory does that mean shielding children will have to go back?
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22/02/2021 18:00:52 46 13
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You'd expect the government to be clear on that one. Oh, hold on.....
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22/02/2021 19:12:22 7 10
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Do you ask the government if you need to wipe after going to the toilet?
Use your initiative.
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22/02/2021 19:44:09 4 1
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Discuss with your GP. The number of shielding children must be small in the grand scheme of things.
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22/02/2021 20:01:41 2 5
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Attendance isn't compulsory from 8th March
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22/02/2021 20:13:21 2 3
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I doubt attendance is compulsory.

Between the last 2 lockdowns where schools were open (for all, not the minority) all truancy fines were stopped and if children were in vunerable situations, or had parents at home full time not working and preferring to teach themselves, they didn't have to go in.

If you can back up your argument on the gov website however I will apologise and stand corrected.
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22/02/2021 22:06:38 0 2
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This is mentioned in the guidance to schools. Short answer... no.
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22/02/2021 17:22:44 8 12
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I guess the government considers a fortnight to be an enormous amount of time to give schools to prepare, having given businesses just a few days notice over the Xmas break of the UK/EU trade deal.
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22/02/2021 17:24:15 13 5
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Not to mention having given schools themselves just a few hours notice that they were closing in January.
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:32:45 4 6
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Don't worry, it will still be 'not enough time' according to unions and heads despite having over 2 months to prepare.
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22/02/2021 17:20:15 38 6
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It is reassuring there is solid information here on schools.

One thing that concerns me is the lack of information on universities. Students are paying for these services and it appears nothing has been said here, and it leaves students to the whim of university management in many cases.
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22/02/2021 17:22:46 14 4
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Nothing on FE colleges which operate quite differently to schools.
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22/02/2021 19:11:11 2 1
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Back on the 8th. Testing as per secondary. How that is going to work is beyond me.
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22/02/2021 17:22:57 13 17
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ffc2

Boris worse than Thatcher

Dont be so niave. she broke the leftie commie Unions stranglehold . just a pity she did not finally break the Teaching Unions who dont represent their members but remain destructive . trying to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money is despicable
lots of goodwill towards hero teachers all blown away by politically biased teaching unions
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22/02/2021 17:28:00 19 2
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I'm confused... When have the teaching unions tried "to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money"?
When did that happen? It's worth pointing out that teachers are being given no pay rise at all this year as a thank you from the Government for being on the front line. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Not an extra penny.
You're welcome.
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22/02/2021 17:28:30 14 1
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I'm not a teacher but have had to meet with and work with their unions and I can tell you that, whatever you read in the Daily Mail, they are not run by the labour party or led by "leftie loonies", but by dedicated, child centred professionals who care deeply about their profession.
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22/02/2021 17:29:53 0 3
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If the NUT (and others) lost any credibility when it failed to oppose SAT testing in Junior Schools so leaving the confidence corroding bequest that still haunts the lives of under 10yr old. The old NUT just revelled in passing irrelevant motions condemning the latest leftist obsession.
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22/02/2021 17:22:39 6 36
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Dreadful that our youth are being subjective to such invasive tests on such a regular basis. And to be forced to sit hour after hour in class wearing a dirty mask...just pathetic. If masks were so good, why are we in this situation.

Disgraceful.
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22/02/2021 17:26:02 11 0
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Don't be so soft
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22/02/2021 17:27:36 0 10
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With you 100%...the good news is that as a parent I still have a right of consent with regard to testing, and will be using it. As for masks, high quality super PF masks cleaned and used properly do have some effect, cheap disposable masks are useless and offer next to 0 real protection (Just open the Window!).
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22/02/2021 17:29:31 11 1
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Invasive? It's a swab.
They've not been abductedby Aliens!
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22/02/2021 17:22:44 8 12
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I guess the government considers a fortnight to be an enormous amount of time to give schools to prepare, having given businesses just a few days notice over the Xmas break of the UK/EU trade deal.
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22/02/2021 17:24:15 13 5
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Not to mention having given schools themselves just a few hours notice that they were closing in January.
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22/02/2021 17:20:06 7 6
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Your comment is the definition of selfish stupidity.
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22/02/2021 17:25:08 6 4
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If I'm the stupid one, how come you can't come up with a detailed counter argument? Use the 400 characters, demonstrate your wit and understanding of the wider issues.

Or did it take you 5 minutes to even type those 8 words?
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cba
22/02/2021 17:42:20 2 3
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Here Here !
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22/02/2021 17:21:31 13 19
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Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:25:16 10 11
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Be like Bill. Be hysterical.
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22/02/2021 17:22:39 6 36
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Dreadful that our youth are being subjective to such invasive tests on such a regular basis. And to be forced to sit hour after hour in class wearing a dirty mask...just pathetic. If masks were so good, why are we in this situation.

Disgraceful.
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22/02/2021 17:26:02 11 0
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Don't be so soft
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22/02/2021 17:26:09 20 21
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Is it too much to ask for the unions to drop their political ideals and instead try to work with the government on this.
We need a “can do” attitude to get out of this.
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22/02/2021 17:32:08 15 6
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Is it too much to ask for the Government to demonstrate some trust in teaching professionals and try and work with them on this?
It works both ways. The Government has systematically ignored teachers and ridden roughshod over any concerns. It has been incompetent and seems incapable of learning from its past experiences. Williamson is a disaster of an Education Secretary.
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22/02/2021 17:32:12 5 2
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Damn those political unions, unlike the completely apolitical government.
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22/02/2021 17:26:46 11 1
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Hopefully they have the timing right and we don't end up with more restrictions further down the line.
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22/02/2021 17:22:39 6 36
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Dreadful that our youth are being subjective to such invasive tests on such a regular basis. And to be forced to sit hour after hour in class wearing a dirty mask...just pathetic. If masks were so good, why are we in this situation.

Disgraceful.
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22/02/2021 17:27:36 0 10
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With you 100%...the good news is that as a parent I still have a right of consent with regard to testing, and will be using it. As for masks, high quality super PF masks cleaned and used properly do have some effect, cheap disposable masks are useless and offer next to 0 real protection (Just open the Window!).
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22/02/2021 17:33:48 7 2
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No test no school!
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PJ
22/02/2021 18:19:49 0 2
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Also agree 100%
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22/02/2021 17:27:47 7 8
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great to get kids back. all in one go a big mistake,

too much in one day

two week process

6th forms

y7s

gcse

finally y8 and y9
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22/02/2021 17:15:33 8 38
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Too slow - should be faster
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22/02/2021 17:27:49 7 1
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Moronic comment.
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22/02/2021 17:31:08 0 3
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Moronic response
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22/02/2021 17:22:57 13 17
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ffc2

Boris worse than Thatcher

Dont be so niave. she broke the leftie commie Unions stranglehold . just a pity she did not finally break the Teaching Unions who dont represent their members but remain destructive . trying to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money is despicable
lots of goodwill towards hero teachers all blown away by politically biased teaching unions
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22/02/2021 17:28:00 19 2
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I'm confused... When have the teaching unions tried "to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money"?
When did that happen? It's worth pointing out that teachers are being given no pay rise at all this year as a thank you from the Government for being on the front line. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Not an extra penny.
You're welcome.
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22/02/2021 17:20:15 38 6
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It is reassuring there is solid information here on schools.

One thing that concerns me is the lack of information on universities. Students are paying for these services and it appears nothing has been said here, and it leaves students to the whim of university management in many cases.
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22/02/2021 17:28:06 9 1
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Absolutely. My son is in final year at university and needs access to the science labs to do his dissertation. His vice chancellor has been so quiet on the issue one could almost think she is mute - bet he won't get any discount on the £9k p.a.
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22/02/2021 17:19:42 169 69
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"The tests are voluntary and will operate "based on trust", officials said."
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We're in the state we're in because people have been "trusted" rather than being told what to do and those instructions being properly enforced.

I for one don't trust parents, many of whom struggle to tie their own shoelaces, to conduct tests at home and then do what is right when their kids pop positive.
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22/02/2021 17:28:10 64 22
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Got someone to blame in place already.
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22/02/2021 19:54:12 6 2
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People spread this virus. So who would you blame for the continued spread of it?
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22/02/2021 17:28:11 5 6
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Same old, same old from the Proctologist. Decisions will be made on data, not a timetable. Looks pretty much like a timetable to me. Last year redux. We can make hay during the summer, then it's lockdown three in November. At least he's consistent.
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22/02/2021 17:40:41 6 1
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Has millions of people being vaccinated passed you by?...
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22/02/2021 17:22:57 13 17
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ffc2

Boris worse than Thatcher

Dont be so niave. she broke the leftie commie Unions stranglehold . just a pity she did not finally break the Teaching Unions who dont represent their members but remain destructive . trying to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money is despicable
lots of goodwill towards hero teachers all blown away by politically biased teaching unions
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22/02/2021 17:28:30 14 1
bbc
I'm not a teacher but have had to meet with and work with their unions and I can tell you that, whatever you read in the Daily Mail, they are not run by the labour party or led by "leftie loonies", but by dedicated, child centred professionals who care deeply about their profession.
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22/02/2021 17:16:58 26 30
bbc
Terrific news and absolutely the right decision.
Our children's futures are all that matter.
Lets hope this is managed carefully and that the unions support this move (that'll be a first)
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22/02/2021 17:28:32 11 5
bbc
Our children's futures are all that matter.

What about teachers and support staff? Do they matter to you?
4
22/02/2021 17:16:58 26 30
bbc
Terrific news and absolutely the right decision.
Our children's futures are all that matter.
Lets hope this is managed carefully and that the unions support this move (that'll be a first)
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22/02/2021 17:28:41 4 4
bbc
Schools must go back. This is a political decision the govt are right to make.

Will it cause more infections. Probably.

Will it cause more deaths. Probably but not many due to the success of the vaccine roll out.

Is it worth it. Absolutely for the sake of the future opportunities of 10 million children.

If you disagree then there are local elections this summer and a general election in 2024.
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22/02/2021 17:21:49 44 12
bbc
So testing kids at home will be voluntary?

So what’s the point - how are these tests going to be issued to kids and I will be waiting to see what happens when kids can turn up without having had one and the school tries to refuse entry.....
43
22/02/2021 17:28:49 28 4
bbc
yes - just tick the box on line to say negative and on we go!
44
22/02/2021 17:29:04 3 5
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If you're Labour, you'll moan

If you're Tory, you'll probably praise

If you're Lib Dem, you don't count or matter

Hope that helps !
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22/02/2021 17:30:53 0 1
bbc
So you're a Lib Dem?
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22/02/2021 17:22:00 153 62
bbc
Poor government: damned if they do, damned if they don't! They open schools, somebody is shouting - irresponsible, they don't open schools - somebody is shouting about damage to nation's children's education!!
45
22/02/2021 17:29:17 39 58
bbc
Maybe it should be put to a referendum so that people can accept the decision?
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22/02/2021 17:41:46 12 13
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If the thickos aren’t allowed to vote it would be a good idea.
352
22/02/2021 18:56:32 3 1
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The cost and organisation of that would be prohibitive
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22/02/2021 17:22:57 13 17
bbc
ffc2

Boris worse than Thatcher

Dont be so niave. she broke the leftie commie Unions stranglehold . just a pity she did not finally break the Teaching Unions who dont represent their members but remain destructive . trying to use the Covid situation as a bargaining ploy to get more money is despicable
lots of goodwill towards hero teachers all blown away by politically biased teaching unions
46
22/02/2021 17:29:53 0 3
bbc
If the NUT (and others) lost any credibility when it failed to oppose SAT testing in Junior Schools so leaving the confidence corroding bequest that still haunts the lives of under 10yr old. The old NUT just revelled in passing irrelevant motions condemning the latest leftist obsession.
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22/02/2021 17:21:49 44 12
bbc
So testing kids at home will be voluntary?

So what’s the point - how are these tests going to be issued to kids and I will be waiting to see what happens when kids can turn up without having had one and the school tries to refuse entry.....
47
22/02/2021 17:29:54 6 30
bbc
Teachers seem very unwilling to engage at all with getting children back in school. Leaving testing to parents seems to me like a cop out.
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22/02/2021 17:45:19 17 4
bbc
That was a government decision, nothing to do with teachers.
When do you expect teachers to do it anyway? Timetable in an extra lesson from 7.30-8.30 for testing?
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22/02/2021 17:46:17 22 2
bbc
Have you actually spoken to any teachers? We’d all much rather have the kids back in school, but we don’t want infection rates increasing again resulting to in yet another lockdown!
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22/02/2021 17:54:00 12 2
bbc
It’s the government. Not teachers. Nice try though.
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22/02/2021 19:34:09 6 1
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Sarah, why not actually research before you type? It was a Government decision, not teachers.
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22/02/2021 17:15:02 16 17
bbc
Captain Hindsight with nothing useful to say as always.....

PM Johnson is still a worse PM than Mrs Thatcher was. (Just)
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22/02/2021 17:30:06 4 3
bbc
Johnson is finally doing what everybody has said. Do things based on science not how popular it makes youlook,
49
cba
22/02/2021 17:30:13 7 9
bbc
Bojo at it again nothing for the majority of the country going mad with lockdown but everything for parents who want their kids from under their feet and then can go out with their mates on the park after.Shameful
It should have been schools last like before, this will just stop the other restriction lifting dead in its tracks
320
22/02/2021 18:45:23 0 3
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It's not for the parents it's so parents can go back to work and the tory donors can get back on the gravy train.
50
22/02/2021 17:30:21 79 35
bbc
Complete madness. How on earth can schools be expected to perform mass testing in that week? Even a phased return of all pupils during w.b. 8th March will make it impossible to test every pupil twice during that week.

Has Boris thought this through?
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22/02/2021 17:45:23 67 19
bbc
No he hasn’t. Some schools have nearly 2000 students, so that’s 6000 tests to carry out in a week. Not practical at all! Where are all the kits coming from??
654
22/02/2021 21:10:41 7 4
bbc
Johnson never thinks anything through. All he has ever been interested in is what makes him popular. What is right never enters his head.
797
22/02/2021 22:33:31 3 3
bbc
It has been possible to jab half a million people a day. Where there is a will...but then most people just want to be negative and blame the government.
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22/02/2021 17:30:26 199 48
bbc
Vaccinate the teachers and other front line public sector workers as a matter of priority, the numbers are small as part of the overall project and it would be a positive proactive act.
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22/02/2021 17:32:17 109 60
bbc
Can't do that as Starmer suggested it weeks ago.
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22/02/2021 17:40:24 44 21
bbc
Every person you vaccinate who is not in a priority group is being vaccinated at the expense of someone who needs it more. Amongst the most high risk jobs (ex healthcare and social care) are working in factories, being a taxi driver, being a chef, being a security guard, not being a teacher. Surely those people should receive jabs if we go down the professions route rather than teachers?
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22/02/2021 18:09:02 17 30
bbc
How about the private sector who are also at risk and are at higher risk than the teachers?
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22/02/2021 18:37:32 2 22
bbc
I’d like a vaccine with long term safety data first please. I’ll take my chances and I won’t be wearing a mask for 7 hours a day in my classroom either
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22/02/2021 18:37:42 7 5
bbc
It won't stop teachers shutting down schools for 14 days if there is a case or suspected case in the community.

You then have a group allowed to queue jump for no real reason at all than self gain.

I would support allowing ALL keyworkers to meet up at vax centres at the end of the day to see if they can get surplus vaccines 'on standby' so to speak.
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fos
22/02/2021 19:04:43 12 1
bbc
Why?
The scientific advice suggests the elderly and those made vulnerable from cancer heart and lung disease needed doing first and they not the government set the priorities.If a teacher has an underlying health condition they are eligible now and all those over 50 are rapidly approaching their vaccine.What your suggesting is vaccinating fit 23 y/o teachers before cancer patients and the old.
438
22/02/2021 19:34:01 4 2
bbc
Vaccinate the healthy and least likely to suffer from Covid?
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22/02/2021 20:17:44 5 1
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I do support teachers being vaccinated, but not ahead of others a greater risk of dying from Covid. For every teacher one vaccinates, another person at higher risk do not get vaccinated. Data is clear, there are many more professions where death rates are very much higher compared to teachers. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55795608
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22/02/2021 21:29:05 3 1
bbc
Any vulnerable will be done same as any other occupation. Highest death rates in working age population have been manual workers in factories, warehouses etc, not teachers. Grabbing headlines doesn’t make something more urgent.
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22/02/2021 21:58:24 3 4
bbc
So a fit 26yr old teacher should the priority over a vulnerable group/person. Teachers have moaned abs moaned non stop during Covid. Can’t do, won’t do. Scientists have said schools can go back !!!
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23/02/2021 01:52:08 0 1
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Teachers do not matter!

The problem with schools is the basis of herds gathering in on place indoors all day long not if some child minder gets covid. Schools are very bad disease sites. They should be closed for ever.
952
23/02/2021 13:07:39 1 0
bbc
well documented that if you do that you delay protection of the vulnerable by weeks. Labour I recall apologised for suggesting it could be done in a few days.
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22/02/2021 17:30:34 52 24
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You really think parents will do covid tests at home !!! A clueless govt - 110k+ dead due to their incompetence.......Teachers should have been vaccinated by now - just had a week when no school....Sadly voted Tory but never again and certainly with such an incompetent Education minister - where is he in a crises ????
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22/02/2021 18:56:06 5 15
bbc
Always good to hear a tory say never again. If only that useless corbyn was only other choice so wasn't surprised the clown got voted in. Still can't work out why cameron did
431
22/02/2021 19:32:26 2 4
bbc
verbal diarrhea
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22/02/2021 17:30:38 9 21
bbc
Yet again the shameful Teaching unions try to ruin any return to school for our children so desperate to return for their mental health among many other benefits. I have never felt so disgusted and angry in all of my 50+ years. Not one ounce of thought to Children losing all hope.
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22/02/2021 17:35:04 17 5
bbc
Utter horse manure. Where do you get this rubbish from? All of the thought is for children - how disruptive is it going to be if bubbles have to close left, right and centre again? Or teachers have to self isolate for ten days at a time? There's nothing shameful in asking pertinent questions of Government and expecting logical, thought through answers.
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22/02/2021 17:42:52 4 1
bbc
The teaching unions and Headteachers associations are completely right in voicing caution. The autumn term was totally disrupted for kids in and out of school self-isolating and staff off sick. It would be much more fair to them to do this gradually with less disruption.
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22/02/2021 17:21:31 13 19
bbc
Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:30:39 2 5
bbc
I think you’ll find about 10,000 people die in the UK every week

Oh you just mean Covid and don’t consider any other deaths including ones caused by missee
cancer screenings and delayed surgery
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22/02/2021 17:36:57 2 1
bbc
These are extra indirect deaths caused by Covid.
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22/02/2021 17:21:31 13 19
bbc
Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
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22/02/2021 17:30:43 2 4
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Silly Billy
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22/02/2021 17:27:34 18 17
bbc
A generation of brats have been bought up having never been told no for their entire lives. There's going to be some pretty sparky households when they're told the holiday is over and they have to go back to school.
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22/02/2021 17:58:48 7 1
bbc
And they have to wear masks in class. Schools are going to have "fun" trying to enforce that.
219
22/02/2021 18:09:29 0 1
bbc
Nearly drifted off there...
519
22/02/2021 20:13:33 1 1
bbc
Why label all youngsters brats? My 2 & their friends worked since last March at their studies, despite no clear plan if exams this summer (GCSE & A levels) will happen. My kids want jobs. A generation of youngsters have had massive disruption to their education, making it even harder for them to get jobs. Don't assume all youngsters are bad - most are decent & are really worried re their futures
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22/02/2021 17:27:55 54 26
bbc
Good news.
The children have suffered enough.
And the parents.
My son has stuck with it better than most but i am genuinely worried for his mental health now.
He has kept active all winter running down icy roads,hoping his football will restart soon, hoping he can see his team mates and his first girl friend soon. What a long,long winter it has been.
652
22/02/2021 21:10:00 14 7
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I don't understand the downvotes. Many in this country couldn't care less about the kids. Society has become so selfish. Very sad. Kids, who are unaffected by covid, have given up a year of their lives already and it's not enough for many.
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22/02/2021 17:16:58 26 30
bbc
Terrific news and absolutely the right decision.
Our children's futures are all that matter.
Lets hope this is managed carefully and that the unions support this move (that'll be a first)
58
22/02/2021 17:28:11 1 3
bbc
Agree
44
22/02/2021 17:29:04 3 5
bbc
If you're Labour, you'll moan

If you're Tory, you'll probably praise

If you're Lib Dem, you don't count or matter

Hope that helps !
59
22/02/2021 17:30:53 0 1
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So you're a Lib Dem?
109
22/02/2021 17:40:46 2 0
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So you're a comedian ... and a Lib Dem LOL
60
22/02/2021 17:31:07 8 13
bbc
Opening schools first is a dreadful miscalculation of priorities.

These kids won't contribute anything to the economy for years - and making up for the deficit in education can be a long term project, spread over those years.

The short/medium term needs should come first - and that means opening up the economy, rebuilding it.

Opening schools means a big rise in infections for zero rise in GDP.
80
22/02/2021 17:33:53 6 4
bbc
Kids may not, but the schools do contribute by having the kids so we can work.
86
22/02/2021 17:35:15 3 0
bbc
But you need all of the parents who are homeschooling to work to open up the economy....
89
22/02/2021 17:35:48 2 1
bbc
And how do the vast amount of the parent population then go to work ???? Ohh yeah, leave the kids at home alone.
96
22/02/2021 17:38:31 2 1
bbc
"means a big rise in infections" - does it ?? Please describe your qualified background so we can all accept your expert view ?
130
22/02/2021 17:45:45 0 1
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cos it's all about the money in your little narrrow minded world ..
954
23/02/2021 13:19:06 0 0
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The economy you talk of is coffee shops, nail bars, pubs.... Urine is the most tangible product.

Education is more productive in both the long & short term.
35
22/02/2021 17:27:49 7 1
bbc
Moronic comment.
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22/02/2021 17:31:08 0 3
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Moronic response
17
22/02/2021 17:21:43 13 11
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The data has already been improving for several weeks - almost 2 months for infections and over a month for deaths which continue to fall much faster than after the first lockdown.
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22/02/2021 17:31:10 8 4
bbc
Data has improved but at 10,000 new cases every day we have a long way to go. In Auckland they had 3 cases and shut the city of 1.5m down! We are nowhere near yet ...
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22/02/2021 18:43:05 4 3
bbc
I think they're playing a very dangerous game there. They're only just starting to vaccinate people now and their just about to come out of their summer with no immunity.
I don't think their approach is the right way to go but even if it was it's not something we could ever do anyway considering it's in every country in Europe.
10,000 cases a day is not that high with the amount we test.
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22/02/2021 17:22:00 153 62
bbc
Poor government: damned if they do, damned if they don't! They open schools, somebody is shouting - irresponsible, they don't open schools - somebody is shouting about damage to nation's children's education!!
63
22/02/2021 17:31:13 21 22
bbc
Every so often I daydream about the chaos of a Corbynite government dealing with this.
120
22/02/2021 17:42:06 13 10
bbc
Not sure how it could have been any worse...
263
22/02/2021 18:23:43 4 2
bbc
Yeah because this government have handled the crisis impeccably haven't they :)
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GW
22/02/2021 21:03:40 1 1
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Tory bot
761
22/02/2021 22:16:37 2 1
bbc
Every so often I daydream about the chaos of a Johnson government dealing with this. Then I remember I'm actually living through this sh*tshow.
833
22/02/2021 23:06:43 0 1
bbc
Couldn't be any worse than what idiot's we have now.
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22/02/2021 17:19:42 169 69
bbc
"The tests are voluntary and will operate "based on trust", officials said."
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We're in the state we're in because people have been "trusted" rather than being told what to do and those instructions being properly enforced.

I for one don't trust parents, many of whom struggle to tie their own shoelaces, to conduct tests at home and then do what is right when their kids pop positive.
64
22/02/2021 17:31:25 25 13
bbc
Missed a vocation in the Stasi?
484
22/02/2021 19:55:23 13 16
bbc
No, I didn't miss a vocation in the Stasi.

I missed a move to New Zealand or Australia, or any number of countries in the Far East where people act like adults and do what is necessary to safeguard each other during a pandemic.

Unlike childish people like you and many others here in the UK.
15
22/02/2021 17:21:26 6 8
bbc
on a different note, can anyone tell me when can go to the beach just for a day out in car,
65
22/02/2021 17:31:28 3 2
bbc
I've been to the beach today and bloody lovely it was too.
66
22/02/2021 17:29:19 2 3
bbc
Can't wait.
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22/02/2021 17:32:08 11 14
bbc
I expect if the return was to be phased over 2-3 months the unions would then say this wasn’t quick enough and kids were missing out on vital schooling !!!!!
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22/02/2021 17:26:09 20 21
bbc
Is it too much to ask for the unions to drop their political ideals and instead try to work with the government on this.
We need a “can do” attitude to get out of this.
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22/02/2021 17:32:08 15 6
bbc
Is it too much to ask for the Government to demonstrate some trust in teaching professionals and try and work with them on this?
It works both ways. The Government has systematically ignored teachers and ridden roughshod over any concerns. It has been incompetent and seems incapable of learning from its past experiences. Williamson is a disaster of an Education Secretary.
141
22/02/2021 17:47:48 5 1
bbc
To right, teachers and the unions warned the government about sending all children back to school and were ignored, look how that worked out!
31
22/02/2021 17:26:09 20 21
bbc
Is it too much to ask for the unions to drop their political ideals and instead try to work with the government on this.
We need a “can do” attitude to get out of this.
69
22/02/2021 17:32:12 5 2
bbc
Damn those political unions, unlike the completely apolitical government.
51
22/02/2021 17:30:26 199 48
bbc
Vaccinate the teachers and other front line public sector workers as a matter of priority, the numbers are small as part of the overall project and it would be a positive proactive act.
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22/02/2021 17:32:17 109 60
bbc
Can't do that as Starmer suggested it weeks ago.
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22/02/2021 18:37:25 9 18
bbc
Yeah but who listens to Starmer. Meaningless politician
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22/02/2021 17:18:24 12 15
bbc
Week commencing 8th March is going to be chaos in schools. More new routines. Kids refusing to wear masks in classrooms, kids being pulled left, right and centre out of classes to be tested.
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22/02/2021 17:32:21 8 2
bbc
Blame the parents for the lack of respect in their children !
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22/02/2021 17:22:39 6 36
bbc
Dreadful that our youth are being subjective to such invasive tests on such a regular basis. And to be forced to sit hour after hour in class wearing a dirty mask...just pathetic. If masks were so good, why are we in this situation.

Disgraceful.
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22/02/2021 17:29:31 11 1
bbc
Invasive? It's a swab.
They've not been abductedby Aliens!
114
22/02/2021 17:42:08 1 3
bbc
twice a week..till when? why? what does it actually achieve?
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22/02/2021 17:22:44 8 12
bbc
I guess the government considers a fortnight to be an enormous amount of time to give schools to prepare, having given businesses just a few days notice over the Xmas break of the UK/EU trade deal.
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Bob
22/02/2021 17:32:45 4 6
bbc
Don't worry, it will still be 'not enough time' according to unions and heads despite having over 2 months to prepare.
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22/02/2021 17:42:27 6 2
bbc
Not sure where you’ve got 2 months from? They got told at 3.30pm today to open March 8th... that’s 13 days while still teaching full time on week days.
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22/02/2021 17:32:58 24 15
bbc
at least we have some common sense, not all though

masks in class, never know why it was not done since march last year
testing, makes limited but some sense
Staggered start, always a good ides

I can't wait to get 7 hours of uninterrupted work done during the day even that it means having the horrible school runs again
15
22/02/2021 17:21:26 6 8
bbc
on a different note, can anyone tell me when can go to the beach just for a day out in car,
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cba
22/02/2021 17:32:59 1 2
bbc
On a school trip.Probably
2
22/02/2021 17:15:33 8 38
bbc
Too slow - should be faster
76
22/02/2021 17:33:07 0 4
bbc
Here here ??????????????????????
314
22/02/2021 18:42:14 1 0
bbc
Oops- back to school for you methinks..
77
22/02/2021 17:33:10 26 27
bbc
Well done Boris caved into lobbyists rather than follow science, to many lazy parents cant wait to get rid of there kids back to school, we will not send ours back until safe to do so, probably September, home schooling is a breeze if you have half a brain, with two grammar school children to aid yr12 and yr9 not been easy but rather that than stuck in a drafty classroom, they are onboard with it.
???????????????????????????????????????????? I feel sorry for your kids and I hope social services get involved. Removed
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ACM
22/02/2021 17:51:02 13 1
bbc
A little contradictory. Has it been ‘a breeze’ or has it ‘not been easy’?? Presumably you are not working full time from home WHILST home schooling? Combining both is not a breeze.
By the way… it’s ‘their’ (kids back to school) not ‘there’. I hope you’re not in charge of spelling and grammar...
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PJ
22/02/2021 18:16:38 1 2
bbc
Agree with your approach 100%
I just hope that you are not home schooling your kids in spelling and grammar!
507
22/02/2021 20:05:50 0 1
bbc
*too
*their
I hope you are not in charge of spelling and grammar...
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22/02/2021 17:27:36 0 10
bbc
With you 100%...the good news is that as a parent I still have a right of consent with regard to testing, and will be using it. As for masks, high quality super PF masks cleaned and used properly do have some effect, cheap disposable masks are useless and offer next to 0 real protection (Just open the Window!).
78
22/02/2021 17:33:48 7 2
bbc
No test no school!
16
22/02/2021 17:21:31 13 19
bbc
Restrictions lifted regardless of the 2000 people dying every week; institutionalised murder.
79
22/02/2021 17:33:53 1 4
bbc
Well Bill, you stay indoors with all windows shut - and stay happy !
60
22/02/2021 17:31:07 8 13
bbc
Opening schools first is a dreadful miscalculation of priorities.

These kids won't contribute anything to the economy for years - and making up for the deficit in education can be a long term project, spread over those years.

The short/medium term needs should come first - and that means opening up the economy, rebuilding it.

Opening schools means a big rise in infections for zero rise in GDP.
80
22/02/2021 17:33:53 6 4
bbc
Kids may not, but the schools do contribute by having the kids so we can work.
91
22/02/2021 17:36:56 2 1
bbc
A reasonable argument - but as the rest of the economy will not be opening up, it's not psosible to take advantage of this.

Getting childless people back to work beforehand would, I believe, be a better order of things- more conducive to keeping infections down
81
22/02/2021 17:34:06 6 4
bbc
As a teacher, I am delighted that our kids are coming back. I would have preferred it in a wave so they and schools had time to adjust to the testing procedures, but that’s just sense. Not sure how we will get through 2500 tests a week as well as teach and keep bubbles apart, but we will. Also interesting that students and staff will wear masks in classrooms where 2m distance can’t be kept
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22/02/2021 18:07:13 1 2
bbc
Up to schools to decide how to let the kids back and you cant tell me over6000 kids are going to be tested before going back to school and how are the parents going to be trained to do the tests and where are they going to get the tests This is going to lead to another cock up by Government for not listening to the science
82
22/02/2021 17:34:46 9 18
bbc
Testing and muzzling healthy children is a sign of a very unhealthy society.
How any parent can allow this is beyond me...
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22/02/2021 17:40:11 8 5
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It's called saving lives.
164
22/02/2021 17:54:39 5 4
bbc
Wow. What an overdramatic twist on something quite simple in fighting a pandemic...
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22/02/2021 17:22:00 153 62
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Poor government: damned if they do, damned if they don't! They open schools, somebody is shouting - irresponsible, they don't open schools - somebody is shouting about damage to nation's children's education!!
83
22/02/2021 17:34:48 34 11
bbc
Schools going back is a political decision by the government.

Will it cause more infections. Probably.

Will it cause more deaths. Probably but not many due to the success of the vaccine roll out.

Is it worth it. Absolutely for the sake of the future opportunities of 10 million children.

If you disagree then there are local elections this summer and a general election in 2024.
Except every study shows it won't, schools reflect the wider population, not the other way round.
Keep your probables to yourself - will we all die if a moon sized meteor hits Earth? Probably. Will a moon sized meteor hit Earth whilst humans are still on it, probably not.
Muppet!
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22/02/2021 19:57:15 0 0
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Completely agree
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22/02/2021 17:30:38 9 21
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Yet again the shameful Teaching unions try to ruin any return to school for our children so desperate to return for their mental health among many other benefits. I have never felt so disgusted and angry in all of my 50+ years. Not one ounce of thought to Children losing all hope.
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22/02/2021 17:35:04 17 5
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Utter horse manure. Where do you get this rubbish from? All of the thought is for children - how disruptive is it going to be if bubbles have to close left, right and centre again? Or teachers have to self isolate for ten days at a time? There's nothing shameful in asking pertinent questions of Government and expecting logical, thought through answers.
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22/02/2021 17:33:10 26 27
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Well done Boris caved into lobbyists rather than follow science, to many lazy parents cant wait to get rid of there kids back to school, we will not send ours back until safe to do so, probably September, home schooling is a breeze if you have half a brain, with two grammar school children to aid yr12 and yr9 not been easy but rather that than stuck in a drafty classroom, they are onboard with it.
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22/02/2021 17:37:02 2 3
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They are happy home learning and it is not an offence to home school if we wish to continue doing so
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22/02/2021 17:31:07 8 13
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Opening schools first is a dreadful miscalculation of priorities.

These kids won't contribute anything to the economy for years - and making up for the deficit in education can be a long term project, spread over those years.

The short/medium term needs should come first - and that means opening up the economy, rebuilding it.

Opening schools means a big rise in infections for zero rise in GDP.
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22/02/2021 17:35:15 3 0
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But you need all of the parents who are homeschooling to work to open up the economy....
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22/02/2021 17:15:39 18 32
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I cannot understand making schools the priority. Who is crying out for it? Not the teachers, that's for sure

Other businesses could be opened first with a lot less risk. Cutomers in a shop generally take social distancing seriously. Having seen the secondary school kids getting on the bus last October, I can't say the same for them at all.

Surely the economy's needs come first?
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22/02/2021 17:35:27 2 3
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Who are you kidding? Despite most shops trying, a significant minority of people don't stick to the 2m rules correctly and many still don't wear masks or sport them as token chin-warmers.

And as for kids on the bus, look at commuters on trains and buses - little difference except school bus is same kids each day but the tube is a different lot every journey.
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22/02/2021 17:45:44 2 0
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With shops as you say correctly it,s only a minority with the millions of kids its all of them
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22/02/2021 17:35:46 17 12
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So where are all the parents going to get these lateral flow tests? Call me a pessimist but if these are procured via the Local Council...will they want to profit off selling them like they do for parking a car on your residential road!

And who is going to train this army of home testers...or provide PPE like the picture above to ensure that tests are accurate with no cross contamination?
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22/02/2021 18:02:22 15 4
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I've done the home tests, they're easy. You'll see.
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22/02/2021 18:23:37 1 1
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Pound to a penny Dido Harding or Serco are already on the case.

Could be a lucrative delivery contract, or maybe parents will have to go in to schools to swap them for their contamination risk.
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22/02/2021 17:31:07 8 13
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Opening schools first is a dreadful miscalculation of priorities.

These kids won't contribute anything to the economy for years - and making up for the deficit in education can be a long term project, spread over those years.

The short/medium term needs should come first - and that means opening up the economy, rebuilding it.

Opening schools means a big rise in infections for zero rise in GDP.
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22/02/2021 17:35:48 2 1
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And how do the vast amount of the parent population then go to work ???? Ohh yeah, leave the kids at home alone.
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22/02/2021 17:39:53 1 0
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The wonderful thing about having two parents is that one can go out to work even if the other is home looking after the kids.

Plus - there are quite a lot of people living without children in the home.
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22/02/2021 17:19:42 169 69
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"The tests are voluntary and will operate "based on trust", officials said."
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We're in the state we're in because people have been "trusted" rather than being told what to do and those instructions being properly enforced.

I for one don't trust parents, many of whom struggle to tie their own shoelaces, to conduct tests at home and then do what is right when their kids pop positive.
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22/02/2021 17:36:46 22 3
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Crikey the spirit of the Blitz lives on. You really don't have much faith in society do you. However, I do agree with you!
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22/02/2021 19:55:45 9 6
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This past 12 months has shown what society is like in the UK.
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22/02/2021 17:33:53 6 4
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Kids may not, but the schools do contribute by having the kids so we can work.
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22/02/2021 17:36:56 2 1
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A reasonable argument - but as the rest of the economy will not be opening up, it's not psosible to take advantage of this.

Getting childless people back to work beforehand would, I believe, be a better order of things- more conducive to keeping infections down
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22/02/2021 17:30:39 2 5
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I think you’ll find about 10,000 people die in the UK every week

Oh you just mean Covid and don’t consider any other deaths including ones caused by missee
cancer screenings and delayed surgery
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22/02/2021 17:36:57 2 1
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These are extra indirect deaths caused by Covid.
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22/02/2021 17:37:02 2 3
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They are happy home learning and it is not an offence to home school if we wish to continue doing so
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22/02/2021 17:49:18 8 3
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Yep, but not sure you are the right person to be teaching them.
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22/02/2021 17:52:14 3 1
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Also if you continue to home school the support of the school will cease
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22/02/2021 17:37:21 88 16
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Hmm, schools* were, according to the PM, "vectors for the virus", but now over 10 million children, students and staff can go back in a 'big bang'. Loving the 'cautious' approach.

*I work in post-16. The headlines are always about schools, but unfortunately post 16 (FE and Sixth Form colleges) are all too often forgotten about: as in the title of this BBC article, "Schools back 8 March etc".
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22/02/2021 18:30:42 22 7
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Most sensible people would include post 16 education as a 'school' in this instance.
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22/02/2021 19:11:16 3 8
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Full quote and reference please.
Lots of things are vectors, but not necessarily effective vectors.
Children are poor vectors for the disease and schools simply reflect the community level of infection, i.e. children are picking it up from parents who are still shopping and working.
Children are not passing it to teachers.
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22/02/2021 19:42:45 2 0
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The BBC news and website also says FE. Most people realise that FE means further education.
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22/02/2021 22:17:56 0 1
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As are university students. They are just cash cows. Always ignored unless someone is needed to blame.
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22/02/2021 17:37:26 12 3
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There's no point in students returning for the "summer term". In most UK universities, this is only two or at most three weeks of teaching, and then it's straight into final exams/assessments.
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22/02/2021 21:19:02 3 1
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Couldn't agree more. If school kids can be tested twice weekly, why can't Uni students too, they should have the same right to their (expensive) education too.
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22/02/2021 17:31:07 8 13
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Opening schools first is a dreadful miscalculation of priorities.

These kids won't contribute anything to the economy for years - and making up for the deficit in education can be a long term project, spread over those years.

The short/medium term needs should come first - and that means opening up the economy, rebuilding it.

Opening schools means a big rise in infections for zero rise in GDP.
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22/02/2021 17:38:31 2 1
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"means a big rise in infections" - does it ?? Please describe your qualified background so we can all accept your expert view ?
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22/02/2021 17:43:15 1 0
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The estimate, published by experts on many mainstream news sites is that re-opening schools will add around 0.4 to the R rate.

See below

"Some scientific advisers to the Government believe schools cannot reopen by mid-February because they could add up to 0.4 to the 'R' number"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/25/boris-johnson-fights-reopen-schools-easter/
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22/02/2021 17:38:54 5 6
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Saw this with Starmer, now the Unions. Demanding that the Government follows the advice of SAGE., and then arguing against the advice of SAGE.
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22/02/2021 17:39:06 6 17
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Swabbing the nose and throat (TWICE EVERY WEEK) of healthy young people who have a near zero chance of falling ill with a novel virus = child abuse!
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22/02/2021 17:45:39 3 4
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Spot on...just like the trials that are going on now. Parents and OAZ need to read UNICEF rights of a child article 3.
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22/02/2021 17:47:34 1 3
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"Cracking on" and allowing more middle aged people to need ICU admission is selfish.
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22/02/2021 17:48:14 1 2
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Hear, hear...
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22/02/2021 17:51:15 1 3
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looks like a lot on here think its fine, and the kids just need too ' not be so soft'...why does that make me feel a little worried??
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22/02/2021 17:53:01 3 2
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Oh please... just what we need -yet another overreaction.
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22/02/2021 17:53:20 4 2
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Dramatic much?
The idea is to stop them spreading it to other children, who then carry it home and spread it to their own families. There’s a much wider world out there.
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22/02/2021 17:39:09 84 14
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Tests are only reliable if the swabs are placed in the correct part of the pharynx. Miss that place, you pick up nothing and send a positive child to school in the belief they are negative.

Using such tests at home is against the manufacturers advice for good reason.
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22/02/2021 18:04:01 31 44
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No, there's a control strip and very clear instructions. Do your bit and support your community. P
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22/02/2021 18:31:21 13 15
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If this virus is so contagious it makes you wonder why only one correct spot in the throat or up the nose will give a correct result. If it’s as contagious as the scientist say then spitting into a tube or blowing your nose should contain the virus. Why doesn’t it.
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22/02/2021 19:16:09 3 1
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A child who has Covid on their person but is unlikely to be infected or contagious.
There's a reason you're not allowed to put any bodily fluids in a Petri dish in the classic biology practical, we carry loads of nasty pathogens on our body, but they're effectively benign due to their low numbers.
Oh for a return to the three sciences in school and less 'opinions'.
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22/02/2021 19:43:20 4 1
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Not true as some tests can be done on saliva alone.
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22/02/2021 17:39:24 9 8
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OPen, Close, Open Close, hey Open get the super spreaders back early. Why not wait until after Easter and open up everything. Waiting next lock down end of March