UK sees further drop in coronavirus numbers
19/02/2021 | news | health | 2,967
The number of new infections in the community has decreased in all regions, latest data shows.
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19/02/2021 15:14:26 314 29
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Since early January the Age 70+ range in these surveys was hovering around a 1% positivity rate, but in this survey the rate has been drastically cut to 0.4%, the lowest of all age ranges.

This suggests not only is the vaccine doing its job, but as the rapid rollout continues, this will become the dominant driver improving the overall situation.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:26:05 41 15
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They're not the fastest-falling age group in that period though.
11-16 (85.8%), 17-24 (75%), 70+ (71.3%), 50-69 (69.9%), 25-34 (68.4%), 2-10 (66.1%), 35-49 (60.2%)
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19/02/2021 15:31:35 39 9
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I'm fairly sure that the science, as reported by the media, states it is the lockdown that has had this effect, and that it is too early for the vaccination programme to be reflected in these changes.

Let's hope vaccination is as successful as it is forecasted to be.
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19/02/2021 15:47:13 32 46
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Good news. Infections are low; 16 million people have a high level of protection. Time to start lifting the restrictions starting with schools in March, hospitality and shops in April and all borders by May.

We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. c10,000 a day and 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
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19/02/2021 16:46:06 4 16
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Moving people sick with Covid-19 into Care Homes was a grand idea, wasn't it.

Early weeding out all the "One foot in the graves" lowers the present count.

The vaccines impact will not be huge until about June / July, even though just one jab provides SOME bodily response... Until then, Seperation / Isolation is the main factor.

Main carriers are Young Parents and Children acting as a Gene Pool.
19/02/2021 18:06:37 6 7
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The ideal solution is eradication. In the real World we should minimize infections to mitigate the risks from mutant variation because this can happen all over again in the blink of an eye. The numbers of infections drive up the risk of mutant variation be it a good or bad variation.

There is something very sad with our care force not taking up vaccine. It speaks volumes about them. Shame on you.
19/02/2021 18:53:40 0 2
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Rubbish = elderly are imprisoned - hence decline
19/02/2021 21:08:46 1 5
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Lockdown is doing it’s job, we’ve online supermarket delivery , used local butcher once a month for quality meat, been lucky enough to work from home , had to miss seeing kids and grandkids since November , until we have a high % of the full population fully vaccinated as soon as lockdown is lifted cases will rise , and new variants will evolve let’s hold tight for a few more months
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19/02/2021 15:14:53 88 31
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All going the right way, with vaccine getting out as quick as it is and as effective as it seems, we should be by summer back to some kind of normal. Just hold fire a little longer before we start to open up again.
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19/02/2021 15:27:47 55 20
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How much longer is a little longer?
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19/02/2021 16:34:21 3 6
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Vaccinations seem to have slowed down now that the first target has been met.

Will we be able to cope with 1st and 2nd vaccinations from next month though?
19/02/2021 18:43:56 3 2
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And then some new variant will be announced in a few weeks and this crp just repeats itself as it has already several times.
19/02/2021 19:15:23 3 1
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3 month lockdown, ok by the autumn, ok by Christmas, ok in the new year, ok by spring, ok by summer, ok by autumn, ok by Christmas.........................
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19/02/2021 15:16:00 191 90
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People who refuse the jab shouldn't reap the rewards of coming out of lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:20:49 144 43
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They are the ones not sticking to the lockdown rules at the moment, so no chance of that...
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19/02/2021 15:23:38 8 27
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You have a kind heart.
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19/02/2021 15:29:21 13 23
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So what would you do with those refusing the jab?? Keep them on furlough for life? Brilliant plan, well presented!!
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19/02/2021 15:43:40 8 38
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Some may have ethical reasons not to have the vaccine. 'Ethical veganism' is now a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010. A judge in a UK Employment Tribunal has ruled that being vegan, for ethical reasons, amounts to a 'philosophical belief' and is therefore protected by the provisions of the Equality Act.
Removed
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19/02/2021 17:21:55 3 3
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People who threaten people who refuse the jab should be sent to North Korea and have their passports & citizenship removed.

And I am probably going to have the vaccine. At some point.
19/02/2021 18:14:46 0 1
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But hopefully natural selection will mean flower refuse next time
19/02/2021 18:29:41 3 3
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People who refuse the jab should be left to rot in isolation should the contract covid
19/02/2021 20:11:10 0 0
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They’ve been out of lockdown since last summer, weddings, birthdays ,bar mitzvah’s, shareashishanight, they simply couldn’t care less.
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19/02/2021 15:14:46 44 54
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Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
Protect the NHS - DONE
Give everyone their lives back - TBC

Enough is enough now. The damaging long-term effects of lockdown now far outweigh any short-term benefit.
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Jim
19/02/2021 15:26:05 28 7
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Maybe we could at least wait for that graph to drop down to the August levels before unleashing another wave of infections?
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19/02/2021 15:28:17 8 9
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Just think if we had followed the examples of countries like Australia, NZ, South Korea, Japan and Vietnam we too could have celebrated Christmas and gone to large public events!

Our economy would not have been hit so hard and the death rate would have been much lower.

The countries named prove this to be the case!
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19/02/2021 15:39:11 8 2
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Old McDonnell Taxed My Farm
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Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
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I'd cast doubt on your assertion, given the 15 million target was only achieved recently and it takes 22 days for first dose to really make some effect. AND you are missing out on those under 65 with underlying conditions...
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19/02/2021 15:54:54 4 1
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No, they haven't DONE vaccinating the vulnerable - yet. They have however extended the list of who is vulnerable, which will make the whole process even longer....
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19/02/2021 15:57:48 4 6
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I'm utterly astonished at the comments on here.Totally brainwashed by government and media
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19/02/2021 16:18:06 4 1
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16 million out of a population of around 66 million have been HALF vaccinated and many haven't even achieved that minimal level of protection yet. It'll be June before that 16 million have had their second dose and reached possibly 65% protection (assuming no resistant strain in the meantime). Your impatience does not change facts!
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19/02/2021 15:16:54 102 26
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We know things must be going well when even pessimist Neil Ferguson seems optimistic.
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19/02/2021 15:23:22 155 49
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Neil Ferguson - the epidemiologist who makes weather forecasters look accurate!
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19/02/2021 15:42:22 34 15
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Out of all the things that the end of lockdown will bring - visit family, see friends, go to gym, have a pint - the thing I'm most looking forward to is Prof Neil Ferguson's misery when he stops getting media appearance fees for talking about how we need a perpetual, unending lockdown - but one which he is apparently exempt from.
Pessimist ? Idiot, more like. A year ago, he said that the vulnerable should be ‘shielded’ ( unsure as to how long for !) whilst the country kept as normal to achieve ‘herd immunity’. His opinion, which he subsequently changed, was responsible for 1/4m turning up for Cheltenham races over 4 days from all parts of the UK. Then he breaks lockdown rules visiting his girlfriend. Should be sacked. Removed
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19/02/2021 16:36:46 15 11
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Neil Ferguson is from Llanidloes, so he spent his formative years in a backwater lockdown hell and now wants you to experience the same...
19/02/2021 18:51:21 3 2
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Professor Pantsdown - the man is a player!
19/02/2021 23:56:38 4 0
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So one person, who advised the government, meets his lady friend for some spurious reason (shagging?) and resigns but continues to be quoted almost daily by the BBC as he speaks their narrative

Another person, who advised the government, catches Covid and drives to protect his family, and resigns but is completely castigated.

Both are politically motivated and absolutely hypocritical of the BBC
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19/02/2021 15:17:01 198 49
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Queue the anti-vaxxers telling us that vaccines are evil & lockdowns don't work!
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19/02/2021 15:22:32 153 10
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I bet they are not 2m apart in the queue....
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19/02/2021 15:25:42 28 5
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The spelling is 'Cue' unless the Anti-vax are actually waiting patiently in a line?
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19/02/2021 15:53:22 15 43
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I think you'll find we are entitled to an opinion even though they are often censored.
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19/02/2021 16:31:58 27 5
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But would they willingly go into Covid wards without any PPE?
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19/02/2021 17:07:43 6 19
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Vaccines do work.

Lockdowns do not work.

Please do not assume that people who disagree with one of your opinions will necessarily disagree with the other.

The population should fight the lockdown at every opportunity (within the law but pushing the guidance to the limit is to be applauded) but when their number gets called they should all get vaccinated.
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mc
19/02/2021 17:50:06 1 3
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and how do you know it would not have been better without lockdown, hovt refused this right to freedom
19/02/2021 17:59:02 5 1
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They are actually just wimps that are scared of a needle!
19/02/2021 18:35:03 3 4
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I'm not anti-vaccine and lockdowns don't work.
19/02/2021 18:39:39 2 3
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There is a difference between questioning the efficacy of lockdowns especially compared to the damage they cause and vaccine conspiracy theories. You may be happy at home but not everyone can just sit back and order deliveroo forever.
19/02/2021 19:09:22 2 4
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Lockdowns don't work, they delay the inevitable.
19/02/2021 20:16:39 0 2
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Lock-downs of the healthy do not work, and the anti-vaxxers are in the EU You Europhile Covid Cultists need to read more, try this for now, EU's vaccine wars backfire!!!

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/02/19/the-eus-vaccine-tantrum-could-cost-lives/?utm_source=Today+on+spiked&utm_campaign=32237f7a7b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_02_19_05_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6dc1b7df1-32237f7a7b-99414090
19/02/2021 21:36:22 1 0
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So how do they explain the fall in many childhood illnesses and TB the elimation of smallpox. Glad I'm too old to have anti-vaxxers parents.
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19/02/2021 21:56:45 0 0
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They didn't. You just think they did. Number tested and amplification cycles used, change the result. Perhaps that is too complex for you to acknowledge.
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20/02/2021 00:23:13 0 0
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Lockdowns do not work.
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T
19/02/2021 15:17:29 55 16
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This is amazing news and hopefully we can have our lives back soon. Hope someone tells Drakeford this news as he's no sign of anything changing for at least the next 3 weeks, not even a hint of anything positive from him.
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19/02/2021 15:27:31 39 13
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I will not have a word said against Dripford or Vague Guessing ...... please use a few hundred.
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19/02/2021 15:48:59 2 13
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Yawn.
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19/02/2021 16:44:55 5 12
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As the results in Wales are the best of any UK nation I'd say whatever Drakeford is doing is working better than the policy followed by Boris and UK central gov.

So that being the case he should keep doing it and not listen to Tory apologists who hate the fact that he is making the Tories look bad.
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:21:03 24 9
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But it's not Ebola, is it? Calm down.
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19/02/2021 15:22:08 7 3
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It’s not Ebola is it??
A rather ridiculous post.
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19/02/2021 15:24:59 6 2
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"Imagine it was Ebola" what a ridiculous comment. Ebola kills about 50%

Why not imagine it is rabies? That kills almost 100%
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19/02/2021 15:33:19 2 2
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I mean, if it was Ebola with 553,000 cases, the world would be in deep trouble.
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19/02/2021 15:36:47 4 2
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beeb, have a word love.

This lot don't get it.

A disease is more deadly when it has a higher total number of fatalities.

How can these "readers" not understand this.

For hells sake, this is serious.
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19/02/2021 16:09:04 0 3
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Oh not you again you tool! You’re full of propaganda
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19/02/2021 16:12:25 0 2
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You said imagine if it was ebola and then went on to say covid is worse than ebola.

So are you saying it would be better if 553,000 had ebola? Or worse?

More people die of most things that kill than Ebola, putting trousers on will kill more in UK than ebola, should be not were trousers?
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19/02/2021 15:19:17 19 33
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So let's get schools open and start the super spreading events

Teachers not vaccinsted

Anyone see a flaw/s in this Stupidity.....
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19/02/2021 15:22:03 3 10
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Educating our children is so stupid.........
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19/02/2021 15:27:54 2 2
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Only your spelling!
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19/02/2021 15:39:05 3 4
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As opposed to opening bars and clubs, expecting to do so safely with the use of lateral flow tests, somehow holding the customers in a safe environment while they wait for the test results. Like that’s going to happen and not be a catastrophe in the making. Children need education and personal interaction with friends. We don’t need pubs, clubs and bars opening anytime soon.
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19/02/2021 15:47:46 2 1
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...neither are the kids vaccinated....
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19/02/2021 15:19:28 178 14
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I really hope I'm not jinxing it, but so far this week, seems to be a lot of positive news coming out regarding the infection rates coming down, and the successful vaccine rollout. Thankfully all my family have also now been vaccinated (1st jab) so am really starting to feel hopeful now for the coming months.
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19/02/2021 15:42:33 247 45
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Great job all round. Round of applause to the NHS and the UK government.
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19/02/2021 15:48:11 13 13
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Oh? But I thought the BBC never posted anything positive?
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19/02/2021 17:53:08 1 2
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Lucky you I am still waiting and I am over 70!
19/02/2021 18:55:13 1 3
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Don't start feeling brave - you'll get yourself in hospital - and others
19/02/2021 21:38:56 1 0
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You are dead right. It's almost as if someone in Government suddenly turned on a tap of the positive news which they have been doing their best to keep away from us for months. And I so also think you have every reason to be hopeful.
19/02/2021 23:08:00 0 0
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It was always there. BBC just didn't report it.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:20:17 46 38
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Who would have thought vaccinating most of the venerable groups means Covid is going down.

Time to end the lockdowns and shield if you need a vaccine and still waiting.
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19/02/2021 15:33:37 33 9
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It's going down across all age groups - not just those that have been vaccinated. (Though it's dropping faster amongst the vaccinated.)

Expecting the vulnerable to shield for longer just so you can resume partying is highly selfish. We ALL want an end to the lockdowns and the quickest way to achieve that for for EVERYONE to stick to the rules and get vaccinated when your turn comes.
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19/02/2021 15:50:55 3 4
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The government excel in fake data and figures
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19/02/2021 16:01:34 4 2
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What an utterly inane & ridiculous suggestion.
You need a hard dose of reality to clear some of the daft ideas away.
Tell me how those in care homes can be shielded when 30-60% of the staff have failed to be vaccinated?
The only effective way to shield people is by minimising the number of infections in the whole population.
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19/02/2021 16:14:32 2 2
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I didn't realise that vaccinating Archdeacons was so important!
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19/02/2021 16:55:27 1 2
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No Bob, It really isn't that simple. Who shields the shielders? I glad that you think they are venerable but I suspect you meant vulnerable.
19/02/2021 22:13:54 0 0
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I am one of the revered! Keep locking down and we can be all revered
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19/02/2021 15:20:34 32 35
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The sofa surfers and lockdown forever merchants will be be even more petrified now, they may have to leave their caves at some point in the near future.
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19/02/2021 15:46:15 3 3
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Yep, top of the list will be office based council workers worried that their year off wont be extended into the summer.
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19/02/2021 15:51:36 4 1
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Silly. No one actually wants lockdown. Some people are just more cautious than others.
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19/02/2021 15:16:00 191 90
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People who refuse the jab shouldn't reap the rewards of coming out of lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:20:49 144 43
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They are the ones not sticking to the lockdown rules at the moment, so no chance of that...
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19/02/2021 17:32:42 1 2
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So those that refuse (would have to be 70+ due to whos been offered) are the ones out partying and packing into cars for long drives?
19/02/2021 18:07:39 1 1
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Seems to me its two separate groups of people
19/02/2021 18:50:38 0 1
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The majority of the country is not sticking to the rules. Thats a fact for you.
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19/02/2021 15:20:54 29 5
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Until the lockdown impact can be separated from the vaccine effect all data is suspect. The challenge for the government is that until lockdown is significantly reduced it will not know how effective vaccines are. By then we could be jumping for joy or facing another form of restrictions as it would be politically impossible to reintroduce lockdown.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:49:54 18 1
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I think we are starting to see some signs of it now in this very latest data.

If you look at their last 2 weeks of data and compare to the prior 2 weeks the rate of change by age group has flipped. The 70+ and 50-69 age groups were the worst performing age groups for reductions, in fact 70+ grew!

But the last 2 weeks of date those two groups are now 2 of the top 3 fastest-falling groups.
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19/02/2021 16:11:02 1 1
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They'll just give it another name. This isn't a 'lockdown' anyway.
19/02/2021 18:45:07 0 1
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perfect post
19/02/2021 22:38:27 0 0
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of course they know how affective the vaccines are, they have been tested.....
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:21:03 24 9
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But it's not Ebola, is it? Calm down.
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19/02/2021 15:28:36 7 1
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Worldwide, Covid-19 has killed more than Ebola has.
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19/02/2021 15:28:30 3 1
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no, its not ebola, its covid - AND IT KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN EBOLA DOES.
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19/02/2021 15:21:32 89 63
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Numbers will drop until schools go back.
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19/02/2021 15:35:19 56 43
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Evidence? Have you been in a global pandemic before where there’s been a mass vaccine rollout? If so, you need to be advising formally, not on HYS.
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19/02/2021 15:55:05 21 8
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Yes lock the kids up till there is no risk at all. Great idea, I mean they don't have a union so we can basically do what we like with them. Plus it's really good for their development. Any other approach would be completely selfish.
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19/02/2021 16:52:18 5 9
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Agree, then up will go the numbers again. Too much emphasis on returning them all at once.
19/02/2021 21:31:37 0 0
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according to the latest research not only do children under 10 not have any significant symptoms they also do NOT spread it and they catch it from adults. Try keeping up. Up until 17 or 18 they are equally unlikely to be the cause of any significant infections - blame the teachers and parents for giving it to them.
19/02/2021 21:40:43 0 0
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Until it get colder again
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19/02/2021 15:19:17 19 33
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So let's get schools open and start the super spreading events

Teachers not vaccinsted

Anyone see a flaw/s in this Stupidity.....
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19/02/2021 15:22:03 3 10
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Educating our children is so stupid.........
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:22:08 7 3
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It’s not Ebola is it??
A rather ridiculous post.
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19/02/2021 15:29:19 1 2
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HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED OF EBOLA LAST YEAR

HOW MANY DIED OF COVID?
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19/02/2021 15:22:17 159 22
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Good News is always welcome. It's been a good week!!

Looking forward to finding out what the 'new normal' is actually going to look like.

No matter what, it'll be a helluva lot better than the cycle of lock-downs we've endured.
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19/02/2021 15:24:35 141 77
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The new normal will be the same as the old normal it’s called normal.
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19/02/2021 15:31:37 36 31
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I don't understand why the presence of what may well be one extra unremarkable seasonal respiratory disease after vaccination requires a 'new normal' or permanent lifestyle change.
Some people may want to work from home which is fair enough, but I really don't see why we would need any rules to delay the spread of a virus that everyone will catch multiple times anyway
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19/02/2021 15:44:45 56 6
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I personally find the term 'the new normal' quite sinister if I'm honest.
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19/02/2021 16:28:30 35 5
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"New Normal" makes me vomit.
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19/02/2021 16:32:30 9 12
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Yes it is good news, however we should still keep within the rules and restrictions to keep it going that way, otherwise we could find ourselves going back to square one again.

It's too easy to get complacent, get carried away about it and forget ourselves.
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19/02/2021 16:52:42 11 1
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Will it include instant punishment for anyone using the term "new normal"?
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19/02/2021 17:05:01 11 4
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There should never be a new normal. It drive me made that people say.

So there won’t me mass wedding, mass music events, mass sporting events.

Why do people like you want a new normal for?

So you want constant restrictions on your life forever. Mask wearing, social distancing?
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19/02/2021 17:55:00 1 4
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'new normal' is actually going to look like it will look like we pay for all of this while tory hedge funders and backers get richer , we are paying for this while they eat cake
19/02/2021 18:54:28 0 1
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You think?
There will be no new normal
19/02/2021 22:30:00 0 1
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It'll just be more of the same unfortunately. New variants incoming that are not covered by the vaccine. It's sad that society needs politicians to do all of their thinking nowadays. Priti Patel told Boris to closed the borders early last year...and he refused. Only last month did we properly protect our care homes, the most vulnerable. We really do have a caring government.
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19/02/2021 15:22:32 6 21
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If only they'd closed the schools a week earlier before Christmas like Wales did. Some of Their kids are starting back next week
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19/02/2021 15:28:07 4 7
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Check out their stats...schools closed and there was a large dip in infections...this is allowing Wales to come out of lockdown sooner.
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19/02/2021 15:33:52 2 3
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Naive to blame it on the schools in totality, and Wales population psqm is much lower than England’s, as is Scotland’s.
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19/02/2021 15:40:39 2 2
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In mid December case rates in most parts of wales were over 1,000 per 100,000 and still the inept Labour led assembly were happy for Christmas to go ahead.

When Boris cancelled Christmas, it took less than an hour for Dim un-Drakeford to crawl out from his shadow and do the same.

Sturgeon has done slightly better than Boris, Drakeford has been far worse.
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19/02/2021 15:53:21 1 1
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And probably back off before easter.
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19/02/2021 15:17:01 198 49
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Queue the anti-vaxxers telling us that vaccines are evil & lockdowns don't work!
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19/02/2021 15:22:32 153 10
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I bet they are not 2m apart in the queue....
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19/02/2021 15:22:55 244 56
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End the negativity posters. Be positive.
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19/02/2021 15:33:17 147 53
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They can't help themselves I'm afraid.
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19/02/2021 15:45:19 14 17
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replace the carp management to remove the negativity.
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19/02/2021 15:46:59 24 30
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Worthless comment. What will "being positive" achieve?

Nothing.
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19/02/2021 15:48:33 9 24
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How many killed by fear?
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19/02/2021 16:04:18 19 28
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The government failure to act decisively in September has cost the UK 10's of thousands of deaths and many billions of £'s.

We are now only just back to the level of infections we had in November before the Xmas surge, it will take us weeks more of lockdown to even get back to where we were in September when SAGE called for a lockdown to keep control of the situation.
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19/02/2021 16:51:03 4 5
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Hard to be positive when you've lost your job, income, savings etc due to the measures that the government have taken, received little financial support in return and cannot see any hope in the near future due to continuing lockdown
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19/02/2021 16:51:34 2 4
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A reality denyer !!! The correct approach it's optimistic realism.
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19/02/2021 16:58:00 6 9
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I am positively certain the 'govt'. are corrupt. Absolutely positive.
19/02/2021 17:57:20 4 1
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How about being neither and just be realistic. Something which very few people on this HYS are being, most notably the anti-lockdown conspiracy wacks that still have almost no understand for why it is in place to begin with, even after over a year of being into the pandemic...
19/02/2021 17:59:54 2 6
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Blind positivity is why we have over 100,000 people dead.
19/02/2021 19:05:47 1 2
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Yes, never mind losing your job, your home, your education, your freedoms- don't be negative, be positive!
19/02/2021 19:10:11 5 1
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Hey, let's all become happy clappers, yeah!!

Does that make you feel better?

Look it's good news the infection rate is coming down, but hey, I and plenty of others have been in lockdown since November (Tier 4), so let's face it what's happening now is the very minimum to be expected.

Let's hope the vaccination programme works long-term.
19/02/2021 19:13:25 1 2
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Unfortunately the COVidiots don’t know the meaning of positivity or communal help
19/02/2021 19:32:29 1 2
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120,000 deaths... tell them to not be negative
19/02/2021 20:12:54 0 3
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Stuff negativity or positivity - look at facts and data. Covid is NOT the new black-death, never was, 72,000+ of the deaths occurred almost a year ago when the NHS emptied hospitals into care homes ,the latest spike was also to a great extent in care homes - lock-down is madness & the EU is trashing AZ in a vaccine war because they Ursula screwed up & is useless.
19/02/2021 21:04:20 1 0
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I'd rather people were realistic.
19/02/2021 23:26:15 0 0
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I totally agree. People moaning that South Korea took oue Cygnus pandemic operational plan that we concieved and had only 2,000 deaths, whilst our Government ( if you can call it that) ignored the very same plan and had 120,000 needlessly killed.

They should all stay quiet. No doubt it all makes you feel guilty about who you voted for. You now need "positivity."

Well I say "tough!"
19/02/2021 23:38:40 0 0
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Two negatives make a positive.
KR
19/02/2021 23:36:31 1 0
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120,000 dead. Very positive?
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19/02/2021 15:23:21 179 31
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I'm as fed up as anyone about the lockdown, but still want a degree of caution to be exercised - the NHS has done brilliantly to cope with almost 35,000 covid patients in Dec & Jan, but at the cost of massive backlogs for other treatment. Wouldn't want these to extend even further as a result of a too hurried approach to freeing things up. But I still want our freedoms back!
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19/02/2021 15:46:51 86 104
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Good news. Infections are low; 16 million people have a high level of protection. Time to start lifting the restrictions starting with schools in March, hospitality and shops in April and all borders by May.

We must get to an acceptable level of infection/deaths that society will tolerate. c10,000 a day and 100 or so deaths through the winter (15,000 a year like flu) seems acceptable.
19/02/2021 18:42:18 3 4
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It doesn't sound like you do want your freedoms back. There can always be an excuse to move the goalposts and extend restrictions for longer periods of time, and it seems to me that people like you will always be fully on board with that.
19/02/2021 19:32:29 3 4
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We did not have to go back into lockdown because we opened up too early. Cases rose in Autumn, not when we relaxed the first lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:16:54 102 26
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We know things must be going well when even pessimist Neil Ferguson seems optimistic.
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19/02/2021 15:23:22 155 49
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Neil Ferguson - the epidemiologist who makes weather forecasters look accurate!
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19/02/2021 15:32:03 11 24
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Sigh!
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19/02/2021 16:05:00 7 5
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Ferguson remotely optimistic! Nows the time to buy a lottery ticket!
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19/02/2021 16:07:42 18 18
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Wow you have to be pretty dumb not to realise that when you take actions based on a prediction in order to prevent that prediction from happening and that then has the desired effect of stopping the issue that had been predicted, you have not invalidated the prediction.

Still the people attacking Ferguson for his predictions think Boris knows what he's doing so it does correlate...
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19/02/2021 17:00:16 12 12
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Mad cow Ferguson
19/02/2021 20:37:21 3 1
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"In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour, we would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months"

"in an unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in GB"

A couple of quotes from his report that should help you understand.
19/02/2021 21:01:04 0 0
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and Victor Meldrew a manic obsessive optimist. To be fair, he should be optimistic, he has a married mistress to die for - at least having told us we all would if we broke lock-down, assuming he believed a word of what he said, he must have thought so to go and visit her. Anyone got a picture of that beauty?
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19/02/2021 15:16:00 191 90
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People who refuse the jab shouldn't reap the rewards of coming out of lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:23:38 8 27
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You have a kind heart.
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19/02/2021 16:12:08 10 8
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Pretty sure that you don't have a kind heart. Refusing the vaccine puts other people at risk. It's a US not ME issue.
19/02/2021 18:26:35 1 2
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Ahh! Vegan. Deprived and sanctimonious.
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19/02/2021 15:24:27 14 7
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Good, but actual numbers will be lower. This estimate uses case data from 7-13 days old, & also includes people who will have caught covid before that

R Number is a complete waste of time & I don't know why they bother. It's a made up number based on old data. With big fanfare it was announced the R number was finally below 1 on Feb 12th, even though new cases had been falling since Jan 10th!
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19/02/2021 15:22:17 159 22
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Good News is always welcome. It's been a good week!!

Looking forward to finding out what the 'new normal' is actually going to look like.

No matter what, it'll be a helluva lot better than the cycle of lock-downs we've endured.
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19/02/2021 15:24:35 141 77
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The new normal will be the same as the old normal it’s called normal.
398
19/02/2021 16:36:42 7 5
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In your dreams.
525
19/02/2021 16:51:59 1 1
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Brilliant !!!
557
19/02/2021 16:55:43 2 5
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The new normal will be the same as the old normal it’s called normal.

AMAZING that almost half HYS does not understand "Normal" (is whaterver is considered 'normal', at that particular period of time.
660
19/02/2021 17:05:20 1 1
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It will be called lockdown 4....
19/02/2021 18:12:25 2 1
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But without some of your favourite shops, cafes, pubs, museums, tourist attractions, societies etc, which will have closed for good in the last year.
19/02/2021 18:51:19 0 3
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Oh Lord - keep up. You clearly haven't been listening. It'll be a long time before we go back to pre-Covid normality.
19/02/2021 20:14:50 0 0
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Only if we pursue the morons who foisted lock-down upon us on the advice of a complete fruit cake, Ferguson who has for almost a decade & a half been predicting the next virus will be the end of the world - lock-down is likely to end the current world order.
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:24:59 6 2
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"Imagine it was Ebola" what a ridiculous comment. Ebola kills about 50%

Why not imagine it is rabies? That kills almost 100%
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19/02/2021 15:30:41 2 2
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Yes but ebola kills more people/

its a bit like you saying cars are safer than planes because people are more likely to die in a plane crash.
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19/02/2021 15:17:01 198 49
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Queue the anti-vaxxers telling us that vaccines are evil & lockdowns don't work!
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19/02/2021 15:25:42 28 5
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The spelling is 'Cue' unless the Anti-vax are actually waiting patiently in a line?
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19/02/2021 15:14:46 44 54
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Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
Protect the NHS - DONE
Give everyone their lives back - TBC

Enough is enough now. The damaging long-term effects of lockdown now far outweigh any short-term benefit.
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Jim
19/02/2021 15:26:05 28 7
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Maybe we could at least wait for that graph to drop down to the August levels before unleashing another wave of infections?
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19/02/2021 15:14:26 314 29
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Since early January the Age 70+ range in these surveys was hovering around a 1% positivity rate, but in this survey the rate has been drastically cut to 0.4%, the lowest of all age ranges.

This suggests not only is the vaccine doing its job, but as the rapid rollout continues, this will become the dominant driver improving the overall situation.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:26:05 41 15
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They're not the fastest-falling age group in that period though.
11-16 (85.8%), 17-24 (75%), 70+ (71.3%), 50-69 (69.9%), 25-34 (68.4%), 2-10 (66.1%), 35-49 (60.2%)
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19/02/2021 16:04:47 10 16
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Who was it who said - there are lies, damned lies, and statistics?
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19/02/2021 16:52:49 10 9
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11-16 (85.8%)17-24 (75%)25-34 (68.4%), 2-10 (66.1%), 35-49 (60.2%)
Thanks Bob - Those are the "Gene Pool" resevoiurs I just mentioned.

70 years+ tend to stay home more and isolated.
School gates - Children - Parents and Young Grandparents just right crowding for cross contamination just BREATHING each others exhaled air.

It takes just one superspreader to infect three schools. primary secondary.
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19/02/2021 17:01:15 5 2
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Yeah i thought that. They are mirroring the drop in other age ranges suggesting we are seeing the benefit of the lockdown rather than the vaccine. Also is there a reduction of old folk going into hospital?. I have only been looking at the figures this week but they don't look that far off the long term averages.
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19/02/2021 17:10:17 0 2
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Proof that as a safeguard that mass antibodies resistant to (at least) Covid 22 needs to be rolled out quickly before mass asymptomatic jabbing.
Along with general testing, This will identify
1/the carriers/spreaders of the virus.
2/ dead Covid 19 particle levels.
3/ natural immunity levels required to stem/detect asymptomatic, existing & hopefully future Covid based viral outbreaks & infections.
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19/02/2021 15:26:29 6 24
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decrease must be due to warmer weather, maybe global warming will be the good thing that defeats covid
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19/02/2021 15:41:26 1 1
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The ONS report is for week ending 12 Feb when there was a bit of a cold snap.
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19/02/2021 15:44:34 1 1
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On your planet it may be due to warmer weather, but, here on earth it is due to reduced contact between people.
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T
19/02/2021 15:17:29 55 16
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This is amazing news and hopefully we can have our lives back soon. Hope someone tells Drakeford this news as he's no sign of anything changing for at least the next 3 weeks, not even a hint of anything positive from him.
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19/02/2021 15:27:31 39 13
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I will not have a word said against Dripford or Vague Guessing ...... please use a few hundred.
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19/02/2021 15:14:53 88 31
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All going the right way, with vaccine getting out as quick as it is and as effective as it seems, we should be by summer back to some kind of normal. Just hold fire a little longer before we start to open up again.
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19/02/2021 15:27:47 55 20
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How much longer is a little longer?
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19/02/2021 15:57:37 13 13
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The end of May, a whole 101 days.

That's when all the most vulnerable capable of & willing to be vaccinated will have had both doses & the other more vulnerable groups will all have had their first.

Get used to it.
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19/02/2021 16:09:19 4 14
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Did you miss the bit where he said "by summer"? Actually that's probably far too soon.
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19/02/2021 16:20:39 4 19
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Until we get daily infections down to a few dozen at the most.

The simple cost of treating long covid for the possible hundreds of thousands of sufferers make that essential to avoid an unsustainable economic hit on top of the worst recession in over 300 years that the UK has already been impacted with as a result of the mismanagement of this crisis by the government.
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19/02/2021 16:53:09 12 3
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In March 2020, we were told 3 weeks of lockdown would be sufficient. Here we are 11 months later.....
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ps
19/02/2021 17:01:07 3 7
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No bloody stamina.
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19/02/2021 17:11:36 1 4
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12 weeks
790
19/02/2021 17:27:49 7 3
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Did you actually read the post you are moaning about?

"we should be by summer back to some kind of normal."

Or do you want a date and time precise to the millisecond....
19/02/2021 18:12:03 5 6
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"How much longer is a little longer?"

Long enough to create another bogus narrative for controlling people.
19/02/2021 19:03:09 3 2
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Two months, LivelyDessert, always two months... and two more months. From a year ago, when it was two months, to now, when it's two more months, like a receding galaxy.
Dys
19/02/2021 20:34:35 1 0
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...ask your wife.
19/02/2021 21:12:52 2 2
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Forever, now the Cult have won, they'll never let it go, every sniffle by a child will close down the education system, every death a tragedy so they'll close down every September. Then because they won't like people enjoying themselves on a beach, they close down summer, assuming anyone can afford a holiday.
20/02/2021 13:46:20 0 0
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As long as it takes but not forever.
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19/02/2021 15:19:17 19 33
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So let's get schools open and start the super spreading events

Teachers not vaccinsted

Anyone see a flaw/s in this Stupidity.....
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19/02/2021 15:27:54 2 2
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Only your spelling!
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19/02/2021 15:22:32 6 21
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If only they'd closed the schools a week earlier before Christmas like Wales did. Some of Their kids are starting back next week
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19/02/2021 15:28:07 4 7
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Check out their stats...schools closed and there was a large dip in infections...this is allowing Wales to come out of lockdown sooner.
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19/02/2021 15:33:20 2 1
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Really? Pretty sure they've just extended their lockdown by 3 weeks...
T
19/02/2021 19:01:48 0 1
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We are still in total lockdown for at least another 3 weeks and even then Drakeford says "they may relax something" . The man is a total Muppet and can't even give us any glimmer of hope at all and can't wait to be rid of him.
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19/02/2021 15:14:46 44 54
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Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
Protect the NHS - DONE
Give everyone their lives back - TBC

Enough is enough now. The damaging long-term effects of lockdown now far outweigh any short-term benefit.
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19/02/2021 15:28:17 8 9
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Just think if we had followed the examples of countries like Australia, NZ, South Korea, Japan and Vietnam we too could have celebrated Christmas and gone to large public events!

Our economy would not have been hit so hard and the death rate would have been much lower.

The countries named prove this to be the case!
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:31:39 10 5
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If we followed New Zealand we would have locked the country down two days later than we did and we would have shut the borders and introduced enforced quarantine hotels after our peak in deaths. They went big, but they didn't act fast.

They also have higher unemployment levels, and it is rising faster than it is here. So I don't think you can cite the economy either.
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19/02/2021 15:37:16 7 6
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Yes, but the UK is nothing like those countries - we are too stupid to understand lockdown rules & social distancing.
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19/02/2021 15:28:28 7 1
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Goodo
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19/02/2021 15:21:03 24 9
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But it's not Ebola, is it? Calm down.
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19/02/2021 15:28:36 7 1
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Worldwide, Covid-19 has killed more than Ebola has.
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19/02/2021 15:16:00 191 90
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People who refuse the jab shouldn't reap the rewards of coming out of lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:29:21 13 23
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So what would you do with those refusing the jab?? Keep them on furlough for life? Brilliant plan, well presented!!
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19/02/2021 15:33:27 29 10
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No, let them fend for themselves, they’ve had the chance / choice if a vaccine, if they decline it, in your shoulder be it.
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19/02/2021 15:35:05 33 12
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If they refuse without justification, how about refusing them NHS treatment if they do catch it? too radical?
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19/02/2021 15:29:35 6 13
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This is progress and that is good.

What is hard to understand is that the `R' number was above one from late July all the way though to this month: that is six months. Just what was the government doing?
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19/02/2021 16:20:39 0 3
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Not enough.
878
19/02/2021 17:38:03 0 1
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More importantly; what were the people doing?

Answer: a significant percentage were ignoring restrictions, failing with personal hygiene, failing to socially distance & spreading the virus hither & yon.
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19/02/2021 15:29:40 8 3
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Lockdown works, we get it..3rd article in as many days only because they are all waiting for Boris on Monday..
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19/02/2021 17:12:25 4 3
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We know lockdown works. Lockdown worked last summer as well.
Lockdown would have worked if it had been implemented in September last year like SAGE recommended.

Unfortunately the Tories ignored that recommendation and 10's of thousands died due to that decision, with many billions of £'s additionally needed to cover the cost of a longer and more intense lockdown as a result.
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19/02/2021 15:29:57 22 2
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Good news.
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19/02/2021 15:14:26 314 29
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Since early January the Age 70+ range in these surveys was hovering around a 1% positivity rate, but in this survey the rate has been drastically cut to 0.4%, the lowest of all age ranges.

This suggests not only is the vaccine doing its job, but as the rapid rollout continues, this will become the dominant driver improving the overall situation.
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19/02/2021 15:31:35 39 9
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I'm fairly sure that the science, as reported by the media, states it is the lockdown that has had this effect, and that it is too early for the vaccination programme to be reflected in these changes.

Let's hope vaccination is as successful as it is forecasted to be.
19/02/2021 19:25:13 5 1
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Well the science doesn’t say that, the lag between vaccination and having an effect on transmission is 2 or 3 weeks so a substantial part of the decline will be due to vaccination.
This is also why the deaths are dropping faster in the over 80s age group.
19/02/2021 19:49:44 3 1
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Then the media is lying, the BBC has, conveniently ditched the graph of infection rate with dates, because I kept pointing out that the lock down started on 20th Dec yet the BBC graph showed the curve flattening on the 23rd - scientifically impossible for the lock-down IF covid has the stated 7+ day incubation period.
19/02/2021 19:55:43 4 2
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Which scientific studies are you referring to? There are over 15 showing lockdowns either don't work, have minimal effect with massive unintended impacts, or just delay the inevitable. These are reported on the BBC of course.
19/02/2021 19:59:19 3 4
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Not sure how when you see the amount of people out compared to March 2020. The car traffic in our market town this afternoon was like the start of a bank holiday weekend; the local lake had so many cars that they were lined up for a mile along a nearby road; someone had set up a mobile fast food van with long queues; the town itself had car parks almost full; no police anywhere - what lockdown!
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19/02/2021 15:22:17 159 22
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Good News is always welcome. It's been a good week!!

Looking forward to finding out what the 'new normal' is actually going to look like.

No matter what, it'll be a helluva lot better than the cycle of lock-downs we've endured.
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19/02/2021 15:31:37 36 31
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I don't understand why the presence of what may well be one extra unremarkable seasonal respiratory disease after vaccination requires a 'new normal' or permanent lifestyle change.
Some people may want to work from home which is fair enough, but I really don't see why we would need any rules to delay the spread of a virus that everyone will catch multiple times anyway
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19/02/2021 15:50:46 6 15
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They haven't said whether you can catch the virus multiple times and I doubt that you could.
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19/02/2021 16:05:11 9 15
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Like you said, you "don't understand".
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19/02/2021 16:21:06 10 7
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It isn't just the disease that is changing things and it isn't unremarkable due to its effect of overloading the NHS. Months of lockdown, unemployment, home working, kids at home will all make people reassess how they will live, work, shop etc. in the future. Or was your post just being ironic?
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19/02/2021 15:28:17 8 9
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Just think if we had followed the examples of countries like Australia, NZ, South Korea, Japan and Vietnam we too could have celebrated Christmas and gone to large public events!

Our economy would not have been hit so hard and the death rate would have been much lower.

The countries named prove this to be the case!
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:31:39 10 5
bbc
If we followed New Zealand we would have locked the country down two days later than we did and we would have shut the borders and introduced enforced quarantine hotels after our peak in deaths. They went big, but they didn't act fast.

They also have higher unemployment levels, and it is rising faster than it is here. So I don't think you can cite the economy either.
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19/02/2021 16:45:09 2 1
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Just remember that all the NZ furlough type schemes are currently finished, and have been for some considerable time. The UK is still artificially holding it's unemployment rate up. On other economy fronts NZ is doing pretty well, far better than predicted considering the hit from closed borders
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19/02/2021 16:57:41 1 1
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NZ had lower levels of infection when they locked down.
They acted before it got out of control, the UK took Dominic and Boris's chosen approach of 'herd immunity' until the scientists pointed out that would mean up to 2M dead.
NZ also started with higher unemployment levels (but they report them accurately they don't fudge the figures like here) so they are not rising faster than here.
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19/02/2021 15:25:25 14 32
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Open all of society now. Enough is enough
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19/02/2021 15:48:48 8 2
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Not until it's safe to do so and there are still many vaccines to be done before that.
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19/02/2021 15:50:35 1 1
bbc
Enough what? Enough deaths in people's families. Or should we just toss the ill people aside so that we can go to the pub
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19/02/2021 15:23:22 155 49
bbc
Neil Ferguson - the epidemiologist who makes weather forecasters look accurate!
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19/02/2021 15:32:03 11 24
bbc
Sigh!
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RW
19/02/2021 15:32:26 103 40
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You can predict what will happen next. Johnson will open up hospitality and foreign travel. Sturgeon in Scotland will prolong the misery for Scots by extending lockdown probably until April. This despite Scotland having the lowest prevalence of the virus in the UK by far. More bickering to come.
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19/02/2021 15:41:33 66 40
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Minimising NEW COVID-19 variant infections are crucial to maximising vaccine success so patience and caution is vital to opening up society.Calm down ya daftie.
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Jim
19/02/2021 15:48:30 14 7
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If England opens up she will lockdown Scotland further. If England continues the lockdown then she will open up Scotland. Predictable as...
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19/02/2021 16:07:55 6 4
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I'd say more deaths through opening up too soon is pretty miserable. I guess you're one of those people who think it won't be them (until it is).
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19/02/2021 16:21:07 12 4
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Sturgeon waiting till Johnson announces his road map. Then she will tweak it and claim it is far better on Tuesday. She will make it a massive deal to detract attention from Salmond show on Wednesday.
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19/02/2021 16:23:11 6 17
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Scotland has the lowest prevalence BECAUSE Sturgeon has been more decisive in dealing with the crisis than Boris, her actions have been more effective and she has been proven correct repeatedly in taking them.
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xlr
19/02/2021 16:34:03 2 7
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Boris trying to open up everything again and having another rise in cases while Scotland stays flat wouldn't do much for him in the May Holyrood elections.

I mean, we know he's going to get creamed, but if he ends up with 15% of the vote it'll be a joke worthy of the ages.
690
19/02/2021 17:11:53 5 6
bbc
Hopefully Boris has the guts to open up hospitality and foreign travel and doesn't prolong the misery by pandering to the lockdown brigade and the other snowflakes who won't come out from behind their sofas.
19/02/2021 18:16:07 6 2
bbc
More to do with being seen to be different than what is best for scotland
19/02/2021 21:44:45 2 2
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Sturgeon will lift restrictions in Scotland at a time when it gets her most votes in the May election. Public health comes a poor second.
19/02/2021 22:29:08 0 0
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I don't agree with your predictions, but do agree there will be plenty more bickering.
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19/02/2021 15:21:03 24 9
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But it's not Ebola, is it? Calm down.
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19/02/2021 15:28:30 3 1
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no, its not ebola, its covid - AND IT KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN EBOLA DOES.
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19/02/2021 15:22:08 7 3
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It’s not Ebola is it??
A rather ridiculous post.
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19/02/2021 15:29:19 1 2
bbc
HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED OF EBOLA LAST YEAR

HOW MANY DIED OF COVID?
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:33:19 2 2
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I mean, if it was Ebola with 553,000 cases, the world would be in deep trouble.
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19/02/2021 15:35:38 1 2
bbc
why, with a 50% death rate, it would still be far less deadly than covid is in terms of total fatalities
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19/02/2021 15:28:07 4 7
bbc
Check out their stats...schools closed and there was a large dip in infections...this is allowing Wales to come out of lockdown sooner.
53
19/02/2021 15:33:20 2 1
bbc
Really? Pretty sure they've just extended their lockdown by 3 weeks...
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19/02/2021 15:29:21 13 23
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So what would you do with those refusing the jab?? Keep them on furlough for life? Brilliant plan, well presented!!
54
19/02/2021 15:33:27 29 10
bbc
No, let them fend for themselves, they’ve had the chance / choice if a vaccine, if they decline it, in your shoulder be it.
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19/02/2021 15:55:20 20 32
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Happy to let my natural immune system do it's job
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:20:17 46 38
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Who would have thought vaccinating most of the venerable groups means Covid is going down.

Time to end the lockdowns and shield if you need a vaccine and still waiting.
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19/02/2021 15:33:37 33 9
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It's going down across all age groups - not just those that have been vaccinated. (Though it's dropping faster amongst the vaccinated.)

Expecting the vulnerable to shield for longer just so you can resume partying is highly selfish. We ALL want an end to the lockdowns and the quickest way to achieve that for for EVERYONE to stick to the rules and get vaccinated when your turn comes.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:49:46 8 6
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'resume partying' - or you could say open up businesses on the brink & meet up with friends and family. Or not going insane locked up.

But of course it's not selfish for the vulnerable to want everyone else to be locked up until it's safe for them to party.
19/02/2021 20:49:06 0 0
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Okay, great idea but you have forgotten the me, myself and I brigade!
These are the self entitled and can do what ever they like and do not care about anyone except their selves.
Their opinions stand out from the majority of people because luckily, they are an insignificant, very small minority who take their views from quangos on WhatsApp and YouTube.
We should pity them really!
56
19/02/2021 15:33:37 12 8
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People don't seem to like facts & stats on here
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19/02/2021 16:00:11 0 8
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Cos their b.s.
318
19/02/2021 16:24:00 1 1
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They don't really understand them; didn't like school either. Inflated view of their own opinions.
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19/02/2021 15:33:38 51 20
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Hospitalisations and deaths lag case numbers, so would continue to fall for 2-3 weeks, even if everything reopened today. The numbers of these serious cases are unlikely to rise significantly again, due to the speed of the vaccine rollout in high-risk groups. That would support a relatively quick removal of restrictions.
984
19/02/2021 17:53:55 32 1
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Warm weather is coming too.
19/02/2021 19:40:16 2 1
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Exactly.
20
19/02/2021 15:22:32 6 21
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If only they'd closed the schools a week earlier before Christmas like Wales did. Some of Their kids are starting back next week
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19/02/2021 15:33:52 2 3
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Naive to blame it on the schools in totality, and Wales population psqm is much lower than England’s, as is Scotland’s.
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19/02/2021 15:34:15 112 29
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If people say no, let them fend for themselves, they’ve had the chance / choice if a vaccine, if they decline it, in their shoulders be it.
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19/02/2021 15:56:20 48 140
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Just let my natural immune system do it job
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19/02/2021 16:12:53 23 7
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Unfortunately it's not that simple as they become a greater risk to everyone else. Saddest part is 1 in 3 care workers refusing vac: the cared for have no choice and are usually the most vulnerable still.
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19/02/2021 17:23:32 9 9
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Absolutely.

And by the same token, if you have had the vaccine, you can't badger other people to have it .. because surely you are as safe as you can be.
19/02/2021 18:14:54 1 1
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Tend to agree - but we live in a "I know my rights" society personal responsibility, what is that?
19/02/2021 20:56:55 0 1
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At last a logical comment
19/02/2021 22:46:56 0 0
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Chill dude! Are you going to dig those graves yourself? Oh, you already have. Okay, next.
lee
20/02/2021 00:24:54 0 0
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Indeed it is our choice. Our bodies, OUR choice.
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19/02/2021 15:34:36 96 19
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The number of people getting the virus becomes less important as the vaccination programme rolls out. It’s the number that are hospitalised or die that matters. As more of the vulnerable are immunised that second figure should really come down and we can return to normality. On a separate point, we don’t need immunity passports, just a stamp in the passports we already hold will do the job.
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19/02/2021 15:43:13 48 19
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"The number of people getting the virus becomes less important as the vaccination programme rolls out.” Remember hearing a scientist discussing this (might have been on LBC) and saying that the more people who have the virus the more chance that a new variant will evolve, which could be resistant to the vaccine. His view was that number of people getting the virus is highly important.
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19/02/2021 15:46:47 15 8
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The number of people getting the virus is still important - if this figure rise, the potential for more variants will occur
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19/02/2021 15:50:22 1 1
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i don't hold a passport and don't want one but i've had first jab !
558
19/02/2021 16:55:43 10 4
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See your point, however, there is something lurking around the corner called long covid. We don't know the full effects of it yet nor the scale of the problem....time will tell. To those poor people affected, the problem is gradually being recognised.
589
19/02/2021 16:59:32 3 2
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Hallelujah. Someone with common sense on this thread. Well said
820
19/02/2021 17:25:51 5 3
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Need to get the infections down too, as the more who are infected, the greater chance of a dangerous mutation.
How would you like a mutation as highly infectious as the Kent variant, the lethality of MERS (35%) & resistant to the current vaccines?

THAT is a very real possibility in a high infection community.
19/02/2021 18:33:08 0 1
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The number that are hospitalised or die has always been the important measure. The number infected is only determined by the number that are tested, and many are asymptomatic so don't get tested.
Good idea about the stamp in the passport. I'm 100% for that if it can be brought in by mid September for my hols!
19/02/2021 18:42:21 0 1
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Problem is rather easy to forge
19/02/2021 21:03:58 1 1
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It always was, the question is, did infecting care homes last march by emptying hospitals set the tone for this 'black-death' cult. We knew it killed the old & sick, so infecting them was mad, then to close the NHS for a year - how many now are a result of that but get caught by the covid 'died with' or 'died within 28 days of a +ve Pcr' - we need an inquiry into the whole debacle.
19/02/2021 21:42:08 0 1
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Bang on, Barrian. Agree totally. It's deaths and hopsitalisations rather than new cases that need to run the show from now on.
61
19/02/2021 15:34:41 15 31
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Open all of society now. Enough is enough
71
19/02/2021 15:36:50 23 6
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You’re a daftie Gerry lad.
40
19/02/2021 15:29:21 13 23
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So what would you do with those refusing the jab?? Keep them on furlough for life? Brilliant plan, well presented!!
62
19/02/2021 15:35:05 33 12
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If they refuse without justification, how about refusing them NHS treatment if they do catch it? too radical?
192
19/02/2021 15:55:39 16 20
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You people are nuts
243
19/02/2021 16:06:11 11 6
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I'd be OK with that - their choice, their risk, their responsibility.
519
19/02/2021 16:51:12 6 7
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So all smokers, drug addicts, alcoholics, etc should also be banned from NHS treatment? What a ridiculous idea to refuse NHS treatment. Better still to abolish the NHS; let's see how many people take the vaccine when they have to pay for it!
19/02/2021 18:41:12 1 3
bbc
Not radical enough in my opinion. They deserve worse, preferably in a jail cell, because it is not just the virus that is dangerous in that situation!
63
19/02/2021 15:35:11 12 19
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Lockdowns will be used forever more every time a new variant of the virus starts to spread even though the vaccines & treatments will prevent people from dying, lockdowns are now an established tool for the government to use to control peoples lives.
128
19/02/2021 15:48:49 6 2
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You sound very paranoid
16
19/02/2021 15:21:32 89 63
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Numbers will drop until schools go back.
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19/02/2021 15:35:19 56 43
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Evidence? Have you been in a global pandemic before where there’s been a mass vaccine rollout? If so, you need to be advising formally, not on HYS.
150
19/02/2021 15:51:30 16 13
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September 2020 was pretty good evidence...
159
19/02/2021 15:52:08 12 11
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Using logic : what venues can many 100's of people interact in close contact, without no social distancing, without wearing masks? Only schools. Studies (look them up on google) show 11+ children (+ maybe even younger) catch & transit like adults (thankfully few get very ill) passing to their parents etc. Surely don't need a study to tell u jumping out of an airplane without a parachute is bad?
811
19/02/2021 17:31:07 3 2
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Infection rate in 12-16 year olds has dropped the most out of all age groups - 85.8%.

There's no coincidence since schools were closed.
19/02/2021 21:38:18 0 0
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It is called experience, lots of people are rational enough to be able to learn from it. Covid is a corona-virus, seasonal, we have the data from last year, a vaccine is a vaccine, they work for the particular strain & we know there is cross viral immunity so even if a new strain appears, even more will be immune & no doubt they can tweak the vaccines
65
19/02/2021 15:35:30 8 9
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The problem with waiting until infections fall below 1000 a day is that this figure is far lower than the accepted margin of error for the tests. A certain number will be false positive under any circumstances.
311
19/02/2021 16:22:35 1 1
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False negatives (ie the dangerous ones) don't count then?
675
19/02/2021 17:09:47 0 1
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Dumb statement.

People only get tested if they are showing symptoms.
If we get a few false positives out of 10,000 symptomatic people that is because we have 10,000 symptomatic people and most of them actually have Covid.
If we get numbers of actual Covid infections down below 1,000 a day we are only likely to see a little over 1,000 people tested per day so false positives would be minimal.
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19/02/2021 15:35:51 22 11
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Hope they're right. Hate Lockdown,who doesn't? Interesting though that the State of Victoria locks down for FIVE days when 13 cases are found yet we still have 1000+ cases daily and we are going to LIFT Lockdown. Discuss how I can reconcile those Two differences?
80
19/02/2021 15:40:04 28 18
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The man in charge of Victoria is a basket case
82
19/02/2021 15:40:36 8 8
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The UK is denser. And I don't mean we are more crowded.
94
19/02/2021 15:44:26 9 7
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Covid become endemic because of failure by this government to lock down early and stop movement of people. Victoria is a state and the lockdown one area not the entire country. We wanted to live with the virus whereas they didnt and in it for the long haul now. Countries like Taiwan did it and they have basic health care. Short sharp lockdown is all thats needed with everyone staying home few dead
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19/02/2021 15:41:49 0 2
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10,000+
102
19/02/2021 15:45:26 13 5
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Australia and New Zealand are living in a prison and not really living in reality the will have to accept some infection even after vaccination otherwise they will be in a continuous lockdown of sorts
298
19/02/2021 16:20:01 2 3
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Johnson is the difference - and his camp followers.
19/02/2021 19:51:17 1 1
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I feel really sorry for Australians (and I’m part Australian myself) because their response has been so poor.
They’ve already had to lockdown for four months because of one big outbreak in Victoria and it’s almost inevitable there will be another one, most likely in their winter.
Why they’re not vaccinating as many people as they can now I have no idea. They are taking a massive gamble.
19/02/2021 23:06:42 1 0
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Hate lockdown, who doesn't? Most sociopathic socially inadequate HYS posters apparently.
67
19/02/2021 15:29:53 10 30
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This is just so utterly beyond the pale now. What was a reasonable response last March and April before we knew what we were dealing with and obtained some facts has now turned in to a charade at very best, considerably worse in reality. Normality must resume without any delay. It’s ludicrous what’s going on now. As for shoving something up my kids noses so they can go to school, you can stick....
74
19/02/2021 15:38:17 15 7
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Then good luck in your continuing role as teacher in the house!
Why isn't BBC reporting on the government losing their court case today? Just burying the story in the hope no one will notice? Removed
88
19/02/2021 15:39:41 2 1
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And which case might that be?
230
19/02/2021 16:07:35 0 2
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Just reporting it now.
Kept it quiet because it was jobs for the boys and donors.
28
19/02/2021 15:24:59 6 2
bbc
"Imagine it was Ebola" what a ridiculous comment. Ebola kills about 50%

Why not imagine it is rabies? That kills almost 100%
69
19/02/2021 15:30:41 2 2
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Yes but ebola kills more people/

its a bit like you saying cars are safer than planes because people are more likely to die in a plane crash.
22
19/02/2021 15:22:55 244 56
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End the negativity posters. Be positive.
70
19/02/2021 15:33:17 147 53
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They can't help themselves I'm afraid.
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ps
19/02/2021 16:58:48 3 6
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It's called realism.
61
19/02/2021 15:34:41 15 31
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Open all of society now. Enough is enough
71
19/02/2021 15:36:50 23 6
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You’re a daftie Gerry lad.
79
19/02/2021 15:39:20 2 10
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No he isn’t pal
488
19/02/2021 16:46:36 1 1
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That's a polite way of putting it!
37
19/02/2021 15:28:17 8 9
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Just think if we had followed the examples of countries like Australia, NZ, South Korea, Japan and Vietnam we too could have celebrated Christmas and gone to large public events!

Our economy would not have been hit so hard and the death rate would have been much lower.

The countries named prove this to be the case!
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19/02/2021 15:37:16 7 6
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Yes, but the UK is nothing like those countries - we are too stupid to understand lockdown rules & social distancing.
73
19/02/2021 15:38:00 14 24
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Disgraceful over reaction in everyday life. Everywhere you look people trying to drum into you this pathetic bad cold. Sick to death of the last 12 months. Feel for the children and lack of social skills and life experiences they have lost. End this now please. Enough is enough. If you say no to the jab whatever minority you’re from, on your shoulders be it, don’t moan if you regret it.
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19/02/2021 15:45:51 17 4
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'Bad cold.' Tell that to the families of the many thousands who have died; many well before their time.
146
19/02/2021 15:51:22 4 2
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Are you some sort of troll? I mean, get real.
67
19/02/2021 15:29:53 10 30
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This is just so utterly beyond the pale now. What was a reasonable response last March and April before we knew what we were dealing with and obtained some facts has now turned in to a charade at very best, considerably worse in reality. Normality must resume without any delay. It’s ludicrous what’s going on now. As for shoving something up my kids noses so they can go to school, you can stick....
74
19/02/2021 15:38:17 15 7
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Then good luck in your continuing role as teacher in the house!
52
19/02/2021 15:33:19 2 2
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I mean, if it was Ebola with 553,000 cases, the world would be in deep trouble.
75
19/02/2021 15:35:38 1 2
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why, with a 50% death rate, it would still be far less deadly than covid is in terms of total fatalities
885
19/02/2021 17:40:00 1 1
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seriously? Ebola has a 90% death rate, so if 100 people catch it 90 will die. Covid has at best 1% death rate so if 100 people catch it 1 will die.
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19/02/2021 15:15:41 11 30
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"Experts warn that infection levels remain high however, with about 553,000 people found to have the virus."

iMAGINE IF THAT WAS 553,000 WITH EBOLA.

The UK has desensitized itself to a very dangerous killer virus.
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19/02/2021 15:36:47 4 2
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beeb, have a word love.

This lot don't get it.

A disease is more deadly when it has a higher total number of fatalities.

How can these "readers" not understand this.

For hells sake, this is serious.
9
19/02/2021 15:19:17 19 33
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So let's get schools open and start the super spreading events

Teachers not vaccinsted

Anyone see a flaw/s in this Stupidity.....
77
19/02/2021 15:39:05 3 4
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As opposed to opening bars and clubs, expecting to do so safely with the use of lateral flow tests, somehow holding the customers in a safe environment while they wait for the test results. Like that’s going to happen and not be a catastrophe in the making. Children need education and personal interaction with friends. We don’t need pubs, clubs and bars opening anytime soon.
19/02/2021 20:36:27 0 0
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So you actually think that children at school will act sensibly?
In m my immediate area, four schools closed due to Covid, they walk home from schools in groups with no distancing.
I think you are in for a shock and an increase in the spread of covid
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19/02/2021 15:14:46 44 54
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Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
Protect the NHS - DONE
Give everyone their lives back - TBC

Enough is enough now. The damaging long-term effects of lockdown now far outweigh any short-term benefit.
78
19/02/2021 15:39:11 8 2
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Old McDonnell Taxed My Farm
15:14
Vaccinate the vulnerable - DONE
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I'd cast doubt on your assertion, given the 15 million target was only achieved recently and it takes 22 days for first dose to really make some effect. AND you are missing out on those under 65 with underlying conditions...
179
19/02/2021 15:55:52 0 2
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Agree. The govt has now extended the list of the vulnerable too...
71
19/02/2021 15:36:50 23 6
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You’re a daftie Gerry lad.
79
19/02/2021 15:39:20 2 10
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No he isn’t pal
131
19/02/2021 15:49:04 4 1
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Oh yes he is
392
19/02/2021 16:33:32 1 1
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Yes he is pal.
816
19/02/2021 17:21:49 0 1
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With your attitude to other's safety, I doubt you're his "pal".
66
19/02/2021 15:35:51 22 11
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Hope they're right. Hate Lockdown,who doesn't? Interesting though that the State of Victoria locks down for FIVE days when 13 cases are found yet we still have 1000+ cases daily and we are going to LIFT Lockdown. Discuss how I can reconcile those Two differences?
80
19/02/2021 15:40:04 28 18
bbc
The man in charge of Victoria is a basket case
171
19/02/2021 15:53:55 4 2
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Less deaths and economy is better off. How is that a basket case or is our government the real one. Vaccine is good but lest not forget the death toll which seems normalized in this country and need to think more about each other.
302
19/02/2021 16:20:24 2 2
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Wow - what does that make Johnson then?
631
19/02/2021 17:04:26 3 4
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Only a Tory apologist could come to the conclusion that a man who has successfully dealt with Covid, kept deaths down to level we passed in April last year, and minimised the economic harm in the process is the 'basket case' rather than the Bozo in charge of the UK who has presided over 120k deaths and the worst recession in 300 years...
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:40:15 51 23
bbc
While suicides, alcohol deaths, cancer deaths and more are on the rise, what point do they say enough is enough????

or does COVID take over everything?

I mean people were cast out with pneumonia effects before but now it's called (long covid) it's getting noticed.

What is the acceptable death rate because guess what people will die, and everyone in hospital seems to catch Covid
87
19/02/2021 15:42:07 18 21
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Exactly once they label something people will be all over it. Horrendous overreacting I’d say.
103
19/02/2021 15:45:32 10 7
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Hospitals can’t cope forever with COVID let loose on society.Have some thought to the sacrifice of Doctors and nurses day in day out all because YOU want a holiday or a pint.
114
19/02/2021 15:47:17 8 3
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What evidence about suicides going up have you got.
122
19/02/2021 15:48:10 11 7
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Because Covid, unlike depression and drug addiction, is a mutating highly transmissible virus that causes serious prolonged and debilitating illness in some and death in others. That means that a liassez faire approach risks exposing society to more deadly strains with higher rates of serious illness. But you're obviously a little bored so let's all open up and allow people to die.
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19/02/2021 15:53:51 9 5
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No one likes lockdown. The human race is at war with a virus. If we were at war with another country, the devastation would be on every corner to see. The fact that you can't see the devastation because it is cocooned in ICUs around the world does not mean it isn't there. The people moaning about their freedoms and going all QAnon with state repression theories are just fools to be ignored.
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19/02/2021 15:58:35 1 6
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It's all part of the plan
493
19/02/2021 16:47:26 1 2
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What a ridiculous statement. Unbelievable arrogance.
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19/02/2021 17:46:02 1 3
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Oh god please don't talk sense, you'll be burned at the stake.
19/02/2021 22:43:31 1 0
bbc
Actually, suicide rates have not varied. This is yet another 'fact' that seems to have been stated and taken hold without commentators actually looking at the evidence.
66
19/02/2021 15:35:51 22 11
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Hope they're right. Hate Lockdown,who doesn't? Interesting though that the State of Victoria locks down for FIVE days when 13 cases are found yet we still have 1000+ cases daily and we are going to LIFT Lockdown. Discuss how I can reconcile those Two differences?
82
19/02/2021 15:40:36 8 8
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The UK is denser. And I don't mean we are more crowded.
341
19/02/2021 16:29:40 1 2
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Japan seems to be doing well and is a dense country.
20
19/02/2021 15:22:32 6 21
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If only they'd closed the schools a week earlier before Christmas like Wales did. Some of Their kids are starting back next week
83
19/02/2021 15:40:39 2 2
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In mid December case rates in most parts of wales were over 1,000 per 100,000 and still the inept Labour led assembly were happy for Christmas to go ahead.

When Boris cancelled Christmas, it took less than an hour for Dim un-Drakeford to crawl out from his shadow and do the same.

Sturgeon has done slightly better than Boris, Drakeford has been far worse.
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19/02/2021 15:26:29 6 24
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decrease must be due to warmer weather, maybe global warming will be the good thing that defeats covid
84
19/02/2021 15:41:26 1 1
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The ONS report is for week ending 12 Feb when there was a bit of a cold snap.
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RW
19/02/2021 15:32:26 103 40
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You can predict what will happen next. Johnson will open up hospitality and foreign travel. Sturgeon in Scotland will prolong the misery for Scots by extending lockdown probably until April. This despite Scotland having the lowest prevalence of the virus in the UK by far. More bickering to come.
85
19/02/2021 15:41:33 66 40
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Minimising NEW COVID-19 variant infections are crucial to maximising vaccine success so patience and caution is vital to opening up society.Calm down ya daftie.
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RW
19/02/2021 15:47:37 4 4
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Most people know how Johnson and Sturgeon operate. They both dig and slate each other looking
for reactions. Sturgeon has her agenda in Scotland and Johnson has his to keep his flock onside. I’m perfectly calm thanks. Time will tell who is correct...
143
19/02/2021 15:49:22 1 4
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Don't believe the hype
19/02/2021 21:10:38 0 1
bbc
Then you are stuffed aren't you, because it is resident in mink, cats, small & big (see Bronx Zoo - big cats test +ve for Covid - that'll be those bloody penguins nipping in and out no doubt oh and Gorillas) not forgetting it reputedly came from a bat who gave it to a pangolin. Also Guinea pigs, ferrets and who knows how many other 'reservoirs'
kh
19/02/2021 22:01:33 1 1
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Without lockdown, one dominate strain would have spread quickest, usually the most mild strain is the most infections. Lockdown and border restrictions fragment the viruses evolution. Like on the Galapagos islands (Obviously with wildlife, but the principles are the same).
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19/02/2021 15:41:53 8 10
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They estimate 1 in 85 people in the NW had Covid in week to 12th Feb, which is 1.2%.

However, govt dashboard map which shows rates in each area of country shows the worst area in whole of NW for that week was Knowsley with a rate of 0.265% of the population catching Covid that week. Even double that (account for 2 weeks) & add a bit is still 0.6%.

The 1 in 85 estimate is nonsense.
290
19/02/2021 16:19:00 1 2
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Different measures by different methods. Not comparable.
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19/02/2021 17:16:52 0 2
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Typical covid duration is significantly more than 2 weeks. Assuming 3-4 weeks gives you the 1.2% which shows your view to be nonsense.
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Bob
19/02/2021 15:40:15 51 23
bbc
While suicides, alcohol deaths, cancer deaths and more are on the rise, what point do they say enough is enough????

or does COVID take over everything?

I mean people were cast out with pneumonia effects before but now it's called (long covid) it's getting noticed.

What is the acceptable death rate because guess what people will die, and everyone in hospital seems to catch Covid
87
19/02/2021 15:42:07 18 21
bbc
Exactly once they label something people will be all over it. Horrendous overreacting I’d say.
Why isn't BBC reporting on the government losing their court case today? Just burying the story in the hope no one will notice? Removed
88
19/02/2021 15:39:41 2 1
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And which case might that be?
118
19/02/2021 15:47:42 1 2
bbc
The Good Law Project won their case against the government for lack of transparency on the contracts given out during Covid. The supreme court said Hancock acted unlawfully in hiding who contracts went to.

Apparently corruption in government is not newsworthy.
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19/02/2021 15:16:54 102 26
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We know things must be going well when even pessimist Neil Ferguson seems optimistic.
89
19/02/2021 15:42:22 34 15
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Out of all the things that the end of lockdown will bring - visit family, see friends, go to gym, have a pint - the thing I'm most looking forward to is Prof Neil Ferguson's misery when he stops getting media appearance fees for talking about how we need a perpetual, unending lockdown - but one which he is apparently exempt from.
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19/02/2021 15:52:39 20 8
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I sometimes think he's the actual prime minister. His word seem to be law.
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19/02/2021 15:19:28 178 14
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I really hope I'm not jinxing it, but so far this week, seems to be a lot of positive news coming out regarding the infection rates coming down, and the successful vaccine rollout. Thankfully all my family have also now been vaccinated (1st jab) so am really starting to feel hopeful now for the coming months.
90
19/02/2021 15:42:33 247 45
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Great job all round. Round of applause to the NHS and the UK government.
141
19/02/2021 15:47:51 11 42
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Deluded
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19/02/2021 15:51:25 17 21
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One out of two ain't bad.
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19/02/2021 16:10:40 31 45
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Had the government introduced lockdown in September as they were advised to by SAGE then they would be due the applause.
Unfortunately they ignored SAGE and we are only now just back to where we were in November in numbers of infections, but with 10's of thousands extra dead due to government failure to act.

So no applause for the government, they are to blame for the failure to act.
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19/02/2021 16:58:43 5 10
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The NHS, absolutely.

The spivs ? Really ? ?? ??
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19/02/2021 16:59:26 3 2
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No more clapping its silly and embarrassing.
666
19/02/2021 17:07:54 4 15
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For the NHS yes the government can go do one because of them the deaths are higher in the UK then they could have been had Boris truly followed the science
678
19/02/2021 17:08:21 5 12
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Round of applause to the NHS for....doing the job they are paid for????and round of applause to the govt. for ....wrecking the economy,putting the country in debt after listening to a set of doom mongering scientists ....
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19/02/2021 17:18:42 5 3
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Totally agree!
19/02/2021 18:03:37 1 4
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Big round of applause to the U.K. people
19/02/2021 18:35:39 3 6
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Round of applause for the NHS staffs, yes. Applause for the UK government? Are you kidding? Have you not read the news of other countries, especially in the far east who had handle the health crisis ten times better than this government? We may not even need the vaccine if the pandemic were handle correctly from the beginning.
19/02/2021 19:06:31 1 1
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And the army for nabaging the logistics.
19/02/2021 19:07:46 1 3
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Yep round of applause for the NHS
19/02/2021 19:59:32 2 5
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What, you mean the government that’s consistently unfunded the NHS and presided over the worst global Covid death rate per capita. Wooden spoon to the government and to those who applaud them.
19/02/2021 22:15:09 0 3
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Round of applause for the lower-mid classes who are going to pay for it over the next 4 years. Poll tax 2.0 incoming.
19/02/2021 23:47:55 0 1
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May I assume your lordship is taking the Mickey Bliss?
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19/02/2021 15:34:36 96 19
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The number of people getting the virus becomes less important as the vaccination programme rolls out. It’s the number that are hospitalised or die that matters. As more of the vulnerable are immunised that second figure should really come down and we can return to normality. On a separate point, we don’t need immunity passports, just a stamp in the passports we already hold will do the job.
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19/02/2021 15:43:13 48 19
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"The number of people getting the virus becomes less important as the vaccination programme rolls out.” Remember hearing a scientist discussing this (might have been on LBC) and saying that the more people who have the virus the more chance that a new variant will evolve, which could be resistant to the vaccine. His view was that number of people getting the virus is highly important.
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19/02/2021 15:50:43 9 6
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My (layman's) understanding is that the virus has more opportunity to mutate in someone who is sick for a long time. Young, healthy people whose bodies quickly fight off the virus, are less likely to be the vector for that.
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19/02/2021 17:05:33 3 6
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The Govt have played a blinder in scaring people regarding variants. There have been tens of thousands of variants. The variant that spread/arrived in Italy and came to the UK was different to the Wuhan variant. The prevalence was low then. Nothing we can do to stop it.
The Kent variant likely came from one individual https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.05.20241927v2.full
19/02/2021 18:38:12 1 2
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The virus only needs to mutate to survive if it is under stress. Note that it is only when effective treatments were discovered that the virus mutated in an adverse way for us. Any population under stress will evolve to fit and survive in the new environment. Viruses are no different in that respect.
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19/02/2021 19:58:22 1 3
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The only way to stop it is basically to imprison us all permanently, whilst I'm aware that people only care about one thing, I know a number of people who's mental is failing the longer this goes no- and that may cause as much harm as covid
19/02/2021 21:07:51 0 5
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Dear lord, save me from this. Who was that Prof Ferguson? He's predicted 3 times that the next virus would kill us all. The global toll so far is 2.5 Million - the UN out Ferguson's Ferguson in that they predict (more credibly) that 150 M will die due to the economic consequences of lock-down - Get a grip it's a cold virus, that kills in the range of a flu and then mainly the very old & very ill.
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19/02/2021 15:16:00 191 90
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People who refuse the jab shouldn't reap the rewards of coming out of lockdown.
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19/02/2021 15:43:40 8 38
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Some may have ethical reasons not to have the vaccine. 'Ethical veganism' is now a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010. A judge in a UK Employment Tribunal has ruled that being vegan, for ethical reasons, amounts to a 'philosophical belief' and is therefore protected by the provisions of the Equality Act.
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19/02/2021 15:51:24 31 7
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The jab is vegan ..... so I don’t understand your point ???
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19/02/2021 16:09:07 21 3
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Ethical veganism?
Yeah, I remember that. It was the guy who said he couldn't travel to work outside walking distance because of the bugs which became splattered on the windscreen of a bus. Thus he'll live off taxpayers for the rest of his life.
Sounds more like mental illness or skiving to me.
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19/02/2021 16:13:45 9 3
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Ethical reasons for putting lives at risk? Doesn't seem right to me.
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19/02/2021 16:35:37 10 5
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I'm fine with people being Vegan for ethical reasons, up to them, they don't have the right to expect me not to eat meat so no worries.
As for those who don't believe in vaccines for whatever belief system they follow, OK, no problem, but if you get the virus then your belief system says so be it, and you can deal with the effects without medical aid.
19/02/2021 19:02:34 0 1
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it's about time alternatives to animal testing are found.
I admire your courage should you choose not to have vaccine. If people stopped abusing animals we would be less likely to be in this fine mess.
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19/02/2021 15:43:56 4 20
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This bad cold is a hypercondriacts dream, every symptom in the book and you get 10 days off life! Wow enjoy your future what a joke. When will people see the is for what it is..
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19/02/2021 15:50:03 10 1
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Your wacky spelling of hypochondriac informs us of how qualified you are to lecture us on the subject.
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19/02/2021 16:02:46 0 2
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Too many gullible sheeple I'm afraid.
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19/02/2021 16:45:38 0 1
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I think you need to take a reality check
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19/02/2021 16:55:29 0 1
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Only an ignorant fool calls a virus which has killed 120,000 in the UK alone a "bad cold".
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19/02/2021 15:35:51 22 11
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Hope they're right. Hate Lockdown,who doesn't? Interesting though that the State of Victoria locks down for FIVE days when 13 cases are found yet we still have 1000+ cases daily and we are going to LIFT Lockdown. Discuss how I can reconcile those Two differences?
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19/02/2021 15:44:26 9 7
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Covid become endemic because of failure by this government to lock down early and stop movement of people. Victoria is a state and the lockdown one area not the entire country. We wanted to live with the virus whereas they didnt and in it for the long haul now. Countries like Taiwan did it and they have basic health care. Short sharp lockdown is all thats needed with everyone staying home few dead
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19/02/2021 17:30:05 2 1
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The endemic is world wide, so by you comment all governments are at fault. Your last point about everybody staying at home, well look at how many people go to parties, raves, underground pubs, weddings etc. so that will go well then.
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19/02/2021 15:35:51 22 11
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Hope they're right. Hate Lockdown,who doesn't? Interesting though that the State of Victoria locks down for FIVE days when 13 cases are found yet we still have 1000+ cases daily and we are going to LIFT Lockdown. Discuss how I can reconcile those Two differences?
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19/02/2021 15:41:49 0 2
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10,000+
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19/02/2021 15:22:17 159 22
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Good News is always welcome. It's been a good week!!

Looking forward to finding out what the 'new normal' is actually going to look like.

No matter what, it'll be a helluva lot better than the cycle of lock-downs we've endured.
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19/02/2021 15:44:45 56 6
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I personally find the term 'the new normal' quite sinister if I'm honest.
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19/02/2021 16:36:52 3 11
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What ever we call it there will need to be change. We simply cannot go on living as we have. The planet cannot cope with the way things are at present. The COVID pandemic may give us a chance to bring in the changes that we need.

It will be a challenge but it does not have to be grim. Please see the site below:

https://joyinenough.org/
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19/02/2021 20:55:24 0 0
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Very Orwellian.
20/02/2021 07:35:57 1 0
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Quite....I would like the old normal back please. And soon. All high risk groups now vaccinated so what are we waiting for?
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19/02/2021 15:44:46 17 14
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"Prof Neil Ferguson... was hopeful more restrictions could be lifted by the end of May. "

Prof, we can't wait that long. Too many businesses will go bust and too many people will be pushed over the edge. We must start easing the lockdown in March.
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19/02/2021 16:25:03 4 4
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Dead people don't matter then?
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19/02/2021 15:44:51 7 11
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We have to learn to die of this virus. Open up now.
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19/02/2021 15:48:11 1 3
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Oh I see, I misread this comment at first and voted it down, but I see you are being sarcastic. Basically, that is what many are saying, exactly.
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19/02/2021 15:44:55 6 8
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Common sense dictates that opening up should not come until there have been no new cases for several weeks. This is what they did in Wuhan, and it worked. There are minor flare ups afterwards which are easy to isolate and deal with. Our leader, The Proctologist, already knows this, so why do we get all this feel good nonsense about opening up soon? Money, of course. If you are old, too bad.
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19/02/2021 15:46:44 1 5
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How long would you be happy to remain in lockdown to achieve this.
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19/02/2021 15:47:21 0 2
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Not many on here with your sense of perspective lad.
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19/02/2021 15:48:09 3 2
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This is what they did in Wuhan and it worked. You do realise what they did in Wuhan would never happen in a democratic country. There will never ever be zero cases.
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19/02/2021 15:48:54 1 2
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How do you know what measures were taken in Wigan ? Do you believe what the Chinese government says ?
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19/02/2021 15:49:40 0 2
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Wuhan.
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19/02/2021 16:52:41 0 1
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Can't be done.
They lied in Wuhan & they're lying today.

New infections need to be a tenth of their current level, which brings them down to where track & trace can once more be effective.
Deaths need to be at levels seen in the summer.
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19/02/2021 15:22:55 244 56
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End the negativity posters. Be positive.
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19/02/2021 15:45:19 14 17
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replace the carp management to remove the negativity.
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19/02/2021 15:50:22 21 6
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"carp management"

What has the management of freshwater fish stocks got to with anything?
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19/02/2021 15:54:51 15 4
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Are you fishing for thumbs down?
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19/02/2021 16:39:46 3 4
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‘carp management’ is that chair by Billy Bass?
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19/02/2021 17:29:26 5 6
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I'd rather catch Tench myself!

But our government is now doing a Stirling job. Unlike the disastrous EU roll out. I do hope they get their act together soon, but it doesn't look likely.