Covid vaccines: Boris Johnson pledges surplus to poorer countries at G7
19/02/2021 | news | politics | 3,819
Boris Johnson is encouraging other rich countries to donate vaccine doses at a virtual G7 meeting.
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19/02/2021 10:09:36 12 2
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I've a feeling this won't be acceptable as top comment by the end of today ??
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19/02/2021 10:10:11 3 20
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This is why under Nicola`s superb leadership Scotland will break the chains and stop subsidising little england
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 5 7
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But Scotland has now vaccinated more per head of population than England and covered more health care workers and care home residents....and has lower infection rates....so your point is?
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19/02/2021 10:19:22 1 3
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Scotland can have my vaccine but only if it goes to Nicola Sturgeon herself. And I'm sure many people would share that sentiment.
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19/02/2021 10:07:22 137 33
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What surplus? Surely if there's a short term surplus then our population can get vaccinated more quickly?
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19/02/2021 10:10:19 126 23
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Quite...as they say on the flight safety demo....put on your own oxygen mask first before helping others to put on theirs.
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19/02/2021 10:16:08 7 17
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Typical.
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19/02/2021 10:31:50 13 1
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This is a long term surplus. We will not be giving away any that we can use; just what is left over at the end!
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19/02/2021 10:34:09 16 1
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The surplus is at a later date when production ramps up. At some stage, probably June we will be receiving more vaccines than we need and will divert the surplus.
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19/02/2021 11:09:03 10 2
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We have a population of around 68 million, multiply that by two doses each equals only 136 million dose needed...

The government has ordered OVER 400 million doses = a surplus of at least 264 million doses...

Quite simply to work out really...
19/02/2021 13:14:09 1 1
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Nope, there is a limit as to how quickly you can vaccinate a population
19/02/2021 13:42:49 2 0
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We will have a surplus but not at this point in time!
19/02/2021 19:57:39 1 0
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There are only so many needles doctors and nurses. I daresay the vaccine is getting out as fast as it can. Besides an order is an order not a delivery, no company can deliver that many doses in a week or even a month
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19/02/2021 10:07:35 521 119
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very generous of the French to offer 5% of something they don't have.
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19/02/2021 10:10:54 88 422
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At least they are DOING something. (Not so) Cleverley would answer the question of ‘when?’.
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19/02/2021 10:11:35 6 35
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What surplus British have with half a million who received second dose of vaccine?
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19/02/2021 10:15:50 26 82
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Typical. But report says 5 per cent going now, Johnson's promise maybe later in the year. Facts don't matter to ant EU brigade.
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kh
19/02/2021 10:21:42 64 14
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5% of nothing is nothing.
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19/02/2021 10:35:48 10 15
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Why not just celebrate helping instead of having a go? This is worldwide and people have died!
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19/02/2021 10:55:40 7 17
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Jeez. You "won". What part of that is it that you can't get over and let it go?
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19/02/2021 10:56:09 6 28
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The EU has 2 billion vaccines way more than little england
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19/02/2021 11:04:41 7 17
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Erm... by your strange logic then it must be even more generous for the British to offer something they don't have either !!!

Was there some sort of point you failed to make there !!!
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19/02/2021 11:18:52 5 16
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Yet the French have their schools open and you can go out during the day.

What is the point of our frankly impressive vaccine roll out if the UK remains in lockdown while Europe opens back up?
Great news in the battle 'Humans v Covid-19'. Yet already on here it is turning into a 'Nation v Nation' issue, with personal prejudices to the fore. It seems half of all comments are negative towards someone. France, Germany, China, the EU...

I'm no fan of our government but I praise them for this decision. In this instance one of their old slogans is appropriate "We are all in this together."
19/02/2021 11:52:37 8 4
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Thats Socialism for you; normally spending money they dont have or other peoples money!
19/02/2021 11:55:26 7 3
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There is no vaccine in Europe and they do not contribute to Covax. They also fart fire and eat English children for breakfast, I heard!
19/02/2021 12:03:04 10 2
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But if you read what Macron said at the same time " but this will not effect the French vaccine rollout"

ie meaningless words that sound good but then just do the opposite to what you just announced.
19/02/2021 12:23:41 5 2
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As 47% of their population say they won't have the vaccination if the EU and FRench government ever get their act together they'll have alot of spare doses to five away, no doubt to Francaphone African counties as the French still think they own them.
19/02/2021 13:03:36 2 0
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Not sure exactly what it is Bozo has promised? What is meant by surplus? Does it mean, hey we don't need this now you can have ours?

There's very little point in the world's big economic nations being clear if CV19 is rampaging elsewhere and madly mutating into something more contagious and deadly, ready to begin the cycle all over again!
19/02/2021 13:41:05 3 3
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Have you not recognised that this is just another pr stunt by the mythomaniac BS Boris

He never mises an opportunity to put his own pr first before the truth by making unicorn promises to suit the audience before him with the certainty that he will deny it in the next breath. He is a total disgrace and a national embarrassment
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19/02/2021 10:08:30 28 24
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Quite right we should be sharing the vaccines. If the UK wants to be a major player on the international stage post Brexit it isn't going to do so by hogging the vaccines.

It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place? Normality isn't until all restrictions (quarantine, testing, PLFs) have been abolished.
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19/02/2021 10:11:54 40 20
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Care to tell us how much the rest of the European countries have given to the Covax initiative?
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19/02/2021 10:17:03 5 12
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@"It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place?"

This doesn't make sense.

Surely if you've vaccinated your own population, it doesn't matter if unvaccinated foreigners arrive - we're still protected.

Nor if a vaccinated brit then goes to an unvaccinated country - we already have travel vaccination.
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19/02/2021 10:30:21 5 7
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Those countries that cannot afford to vaccinate their populations are not important in terms of trade and travel to/from them will remain very restricted whilst the virus is a danger.
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19/02/2021 10:08:39 30 19
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How will they justify that wrt those complaining about foreign aid? Especially as our purchases are twice the price most other countries are paying for their vaccines!
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19/02/2021 10:14:14 12 14
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And Govt liable for any health issues in agreed contracts. Manufacturers responsible in EU contracts.
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19/02/2021 10:38:22 2 3
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Wher do you get this twice the price thing from? From thin air perhaps
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19/02/2021 11:18:15 2 3
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Perhaps we paid more to enable pump-priming and to ensure we got vaccines more quickly?

Paying £6 to get out of lockdown 3 months earlier than paying £3 seems like a very good investment.
19/02/2021 14:45:09 1 1
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untrue on price of vaccine but perhaps it is worth paying more to ensure the supply
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19/02/2021 10:08:39 14 13
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All rich countries should honour commitments to the UN COVAX scheme although the EU is now suffering reduced deliveries from Pfizer.
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19/02/2021 10:08:50 12 7
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There just isn't enough supply yet and not an easy thing to scale up to the numbers required
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19/02/2021 10:13:11 5 17
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Yep - bunch of people with vaccine appointments turned away at my local Boots due to no supply. No mechanism to get it elsewhere you have to re-book online or via 119. People were distraught. Also know of a lot of people who don't match the criteria for receiving the vaccine but have had it. Jabs for the boys eh?
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19/02/2021 10:09:06 29 32
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No doubt the short sighted 'us first' brigade will be jumping up and down preaching their divisive nationalist nonsense. The pandemic is a global challenge, everyone on the planet needs to be vaccinated if we are ALL to be safe.
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19/02/2021 10:10:14 30 14
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Any comment on the attitude of the EU?
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19/02/2021 10:12:31 14 4
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Well, how about you and your family to skip having the vaccine so you can get someone else vaccinated abroad sooner...and then you can bore us all with how morally superior you are...while you are alive anyway.
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19/02/2021 10:20:39 12 1
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And yet some friends in Leicester were called in early for their vaccinations because the centre had a surplus due to some sections of the community refusing it.
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19/02/2021 10:09:06 9 15
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Sadly far to late
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19/02/2021 10:18:19 3 3
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Many third world countries haven't done very badly. For example Syria they're not really doing 'covid', apparently.
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Great idea, Boris. We're doing really well in terms of vaccinations, so sharing the excess evenly will allow the world to get back to normal much quicker.

Funny how the mighty EU never broached this topic, isn't it? Better off out.
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19/02/2021 10:12:21 10 14
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Do you actually read the reports EU first do it, sending 5 per cent now. Johnson hanging onto their coat tails by promising something later in the year. Get your facts right if that's possible.
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19/02/2021 10:11:44 0 2
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Boris is palming off something we don't want.
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19/02/2021 10:09:36 12 2
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I've a feeling this won't be acceptable as top comment by the end of today ??
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19/02/2021 10:09:59 9 24
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Johnson shamed into doing something by Macron. Wow not go down well with brexiteers but wait, EU sending 5 per cent now UK who ordered more than four times more vaccine than it needed, will wait until later in the year. So Johnson's promise on hold.
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19/02/2021 10:14:33 8 4
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5% of nothing is actually.................................
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19/02/2021 10:27:00 2 1
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We ordered four times more vaccine as no one knew which vaccines would be effective and when they would be available, many of which still have to be approved. Imagine if we had ordered just enough of a vaccine which had not worked. We haven’t got the vaccines yet, and we have one of the highest death rates and still haven’t vaccinated the most vulnerable
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19/02/2021 11:01:12 3 1
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Not a tory or Johnson supporter but just like most of the wealthy nations who all "over-ordered" they did so because it IS the sensible thing to do...

They all placed orders with whomever they could as NO ONE knew who would produce the first vaccines let alone when. If they had only ordered enough and only ordered from one company then we would probably still be waiting for a vaccine here...
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19/02/2021 10:10:05 8 10
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Macron is determined not to get reelected this year.
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19/02/2021 10:17:07 0 2
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You think those elections are going ahead??
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19/02/2021 10:10:11 3 20
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This is why under Nicola`s superb leadership Scotland will break the chains and stop subsidising little england
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19/02/2021 10:25:08 5 3
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Sadly there isn't a vaccine for this delusion.
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19/02/2021 10:09:06 29 32
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No doubt the short sighted 'us first' brigade will be jumping up and down preaching their divisive nationalist nonsense. The pandemic is a global challenge, everyone on the planet needs to be vaccinated if we are ALL to be safe.
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19/02/2021 10:10:14 30 14
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Any comment on the attitude of the EU?
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19/02/2021 10:18:03 5 25
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EU attitude is accurate after it was found out that British are stealing EU contracted AZ vaccines.
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19/02/2021 10:36:54 1 4
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Pretty good. First to announce followed by Johnson hanging onto their coat tails.
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19/02/2021 10:07:22 137 33
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What surplus? Surely if there's a short term surplus then our population can get vaccinated more quickly?
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19/02/2021 10:10:19 126 23
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Quite...as they say on the flight safety demo....put on your own oxygen mask first before helping others to put on theirs.
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19/02/2021 11:40:04 2 0
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Yes-it is necessary to strengthen all things.

A strong foundation and then, "one" is able to prefer help to those more needy.

Sometimes it is necessary to provide/enable a "climate" in which people are able to help themselves. Isn't this the foundation of families and children?!

We ALL, globally need to strive to bring about the right, healthy environment and stability for all.
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Of all the dumb analogies on this, the dumbest of social media platforms, that has to win the prize of the dumbest analogy there has ever been.
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19/02/2021 10:10:22 7 20
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A global force for good as the Tory minister wants to project the government as, does not print money to buy up enough vaccine to inoculate the whole population 2.3 times.
Whatever the government is, it is not a force for good.
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19/02/2021 10:13:53 12 6
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Would you rather they hadn't put money into the vaccine procurement system at an early stage so that we were in the same state as the EU?
19/02/2021 14:51:42 1 0
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You knew which would be successful?
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"But anti-poverty campaigners say the UK is not doing enough."

The thing is, you look after your own first, just as you want us to look after yours first.

Stop being so ungrateful for the help!
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19/02/2021 10:28:06 575 59
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It’s like the example of the oxygen masks in planes. You put your own on before helping the person next to you.

Let’s get this country inoculated and up and running then we will be in a better place to help more of the world. Priority should be given to poorer Commonwealth countries first and the foreign aid budget used to help logistics and implementation.
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19/02/2021 10:29:56 81 42
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This makes golden Boris look good,
the usual suspects ain't gonna like that one bit

no sir-ee
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19/02/2021 10:54:59 27 49
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They aren’t being ungrateful
If this has any more chances to mutate, the vaccines will be no good
100 days to target and develop a new vaccine, 1, 2 maybe 3 months in picking up a new strain, means more if the same for all of us, lockdowns and death
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19/02/2021 11:18:32 59 15
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i agree. im happy for uk to share surplus vaccinations but i do get fed up of always throwing money at other countries and then watching food banks and poverty increase in this country. But yes any vaccines we dont need should be shared rather than wasted
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19/02/2021 11:20:27 45 8
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From a purely selfish point of view, vaccinating our entire country isn't going to stop problems from covid if the rest of the world is still experiencing mass infections as new strains develop at a rate proportional to the number of infections. Its not charity vaccinating the world, its enlightened self interest - less infections, less new strains, less risk.
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19/02/2021 11:25:32 6 20
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No the reality of this idea is there will emerge a lucrative black market..why are we even thinking of giving up vaccines to largely corrupt countries..?
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19/02/2021 11:41:03 8 45
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You look after your own first by stealing EU contracted vaccines. Typical British entitlement to not British items.
19/02/2021 11:44:24 21 8
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Yeh not doing enough...despite, for example, the Great British Taxpayer funding the R&D, and licensing and producing it at zero cost and zero profit. So sick of given just to be slapped back in the face.
19/02/2021 11:57:11 15 4
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spot on....we have a duty to protect our people first,we have Covi debts of around 400bil but still invest over 500mil to help poorer countries plus goving away our surplus......And we are being slatted once again !!
19/02/2021 12:06:13 7 14
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If we do not help vaccinate other countries then we are not protecting our own citizens.

Anywhere on the globe that remains less vaccinated is a chance for the virus to spread and mutate and affect us again.

If Oxford council had said 'we look after our own first', & vaccinated all Oxford citizens with Astrazeneca before the rest of the UK, this would have been thought wrong.

Same thing.
19/02/2021 12:22:22 2 1
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Well said
19/02/2021 12:33:06 3 9
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Who is ungrateful, the campaigners or the recipients? Actually it's neither! Pointing out a moral duty isn't being ungrateful.
Giving away vaccines that we have no use for to help rid the world of covid could be seen to be self-interest
19/02/2021 12:49:40 3 6
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Look after your own first does that extend to kids going hungry
19/02/2021 13:03:10 1 5
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Not sure exactly what it is Bozo has promised? What is meant by surplus? Does it mean, hey we don't need this now you can have ours?

There's very little point in the world's big economic nations being clear if CV19 is rampaging elsewhere and madly mutating into something more contagious and deadly, ready to begin the cycle all over again!
19/02/2021 13:03:24 5 14
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It’s amazing how many people that trot out the “look after your own first “ are rabid Tories and anti free school meals and any sort of welfare.
19/02/2021 13:05:40 10 4
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I, for one, don't particularly feel like helping those that constantly accuse us in this country of being white, colonial imperialists.

I'm sick of us being castigated and made out to be evil by people with a begging bowl in their collective hands.
19/02/2021 13:07:07 9 3
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Anti Poverty ‘campaigners often get a great deal of money for their suggestions.

The question that is never asked is - what are the Governments of those countries, doing for their own people! It should’ nt always be up to us to help.
19/02/2021 13:14:36 3 4
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It will never be enough unless we kill all the rich - these people don't care about the poor - they are angry about the rich

I've been their myself - it's a kind of madness - the poor are objectified , disrespected and treated as a political weapon to villify the "rich" who must clearly have gotten rich on the backs of the poor (without any evidence - indeed all the evidence is contrary)
19/02/2021 13:15:58 4 1
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This isn't anything to do with looking after our own population 'first' its about preventing the global spread from continuing and thus threatening us (and everyone else) from future uncontrolled virus spread. If we didn't push hard for this assistance we're doing the UK public a disservice.
19/02/2021 13:36:18 3 2
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"You look after your own first" seems a little incongruous given the prevailing opinion on here - and indeed in government - when the subject of free school meals came up not so long ago.
19/02/2021 13:46:15 3 4
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Your statement is conjecture. Our Parliament has always treated 'us' with contempt and 'we', the common man, have never been in the club counted as 'your own'. That is for 'them', the landed gentry and the Eton/Oxford cabal. The vaccine was hogged to ensure a stable economy; the economy that grows no money tree for the NHS nor the common man but gives to 'them' generously. 'They' cause poverty.
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19/02/2021 10:10:37 17 19
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How can he agree to give away surplus vaccines when he's only half- vaccinated a quarter of the UK population so far?
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19/02/2021 10:21:15 4 1
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Because we ordered a surplus
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19/02/2021 10:22:53 1 1
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Because until the rest of the world has sufficient immunity, obviously the infection will return to reinfect ourselves - and try to develop some empathy for those less fortunate than yourself.
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19/02/2021 10:17:34 1 1
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Go back and read the story again.
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19/02/2021 10:28:53 3 1
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If you buy a 500 brick pack but know you only need 100 for your wall, do you have to complete building the wall before pledging a few spare bricks to your neighbour?
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19/02/2021 10:55:33 1 1
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Since when did the UK have a population of over 400 million ?

The government has ordered 400 million vaccines for which the contracts will have to be honoured, do the maths it really quite simple & that's a lot of surplus vaccines available to give away when ready...
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Surplus of what? Barely half a million received second dose of the vaccine.
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19/02/2021 10:20:00 57 68
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I bet your glass is always half empty.
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19/02/2021 10:21:35 23 1
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It isn’t a surplus we have at this moment, but we will have when all the vaccines ordered are received, that is when we have a surplus. Given production is ramped up the likelihood is that around June we will have more vaccines than we can adminster
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19/02/2021 10:16:20 4 27
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It was always meant to be this way. Politicians will still get their backhanders which is all they really care about.
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19/02/2021 10:22:17 2 22
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It's mostly salty water.
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19/02/2021 10:27:04 11 14
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Surplus of lefty notions that the UK has unlimited wealth and vaccines.
The UK purchased vaccines for its own citizens paid for with our money and they decide to give it away before even 1/4 has been vaccinated...
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19/02/2021 10:30:47 22 1
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There isn’t a surplus now, but there will be when production is ramped up. They are talking about the surplus we will have in the future
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19/02/2021 10:33:47 12 3
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Perhaps if you research the population of the UK and then how many vaccines the gvmt have ordered you will get your answer. Provided you can do basic maths of course.
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19/02/2021 10:47:20 10 3
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It shows lost of people dont know the basic maths or cant accept the help given by UK to OTHERS.
UK population is around 68 million and vaccines we have ordered 400 million.
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19/02/2021 10:48:28 2 18
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according to the calculator i should have had my first dose, and my second on 6 of april. i've had nothing yet, same old story forget about the disabled because they dont matter.
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19/02/2021 10:52:19 10 1
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Surplus of the over 400 million vaccines ordered as it clearly state in the article...
19/02/2021 14:45:19 3 0
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No wonder you choose your name is Grumpy :-)
400 Million ordered by UK ( just in case ), is now Surplus becasue population of UK is 68 Million.
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19/02/2021 10:10:44 11 23
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The UK economy is on its knees, the British public will be paying for this mess for decades and already our government is giving away vaccines.

I don't want to sound callous but for how long does the burden fall on the UK, where many people themselves are now seeing poverty first hand.

My only hope is that we protect the nation before 'exporting' surplus. We're still 3/4 short of the target.
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19/02/2021 10:20:40 6 3
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We've already paid for them. What should we do, pour them down the sink? ??
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19/02/2021 10:51:12 2 2
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By the very definition of the word "surplus" then of course it would mean the vaccines left over AFTER the UK had used every vaccine they need on the UK population...

The country will be paying the costs of this crisis for decades to come just as all countries across the world will be doing, you'd soon be moaning if they didn't do anything to get through this crisis...
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19/02/2021 10:10:47 209 23
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Difficult one. We know the Pfizer vaccine needs special refrigeration which only really leaves the Oxford vaccine at the moment. And considering how high our death rate has been it will be difficult to justify delaying protection for the UK population and give it to less impacted countries!!
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19/02/2021 10:12:11 52 165
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Especially as we are paying twice the price of any other country!
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19/02/2021 10:15:51 30 2
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That isn’t what is being said. We have on order more vaccines than we need, and when they become available and we have vaccinated the priority groups we will start diverting some of vaccines elsewhere. You are quite right given our death rates are higher than in most other countries our need at the moment is greater
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19/02/2021 10:19:42 6 66
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Pfizer vaccine actually works so we should keep that one and chuck the rest.
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19/02/2021 10:46:44 19 1
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No one is "delaying protection for the UK", do point out where you read that in the article as I must have missed it !

If you read the story this is for "SURPLUS" vaccines the goverment have ordered most of which haven't even been approved yet let alone manufactured & most probably wont be ready for some time to come but the government will have to honour those contracts for them they signed...
19/02/2021 11:36:48 0 11
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Why is no one asking why treatments that were known last year and suppressed by governments and media are now just beginning to be acknowledged?Coincidentally at the same time as vaccine rollout.
19/02/2021 16:21:47 0 1
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It was announced today that the storage of the Pfizer vaccine requires only -20 degrees max. It will now be easier to store/transport/use.
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19/02/2021 10:07:35 521 119
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very generous of the French to offer 5% of something they don't have.
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19/02/2021 10:10:54 88 422
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At least they are DOING something. (Not so) Cleverley would answer the question of ‘when?’.
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19/02/2021 10:18:44 65 18
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Except they aren't!

I will donate 100% of the vaccines that I have. There, am I doing something too?
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19/02/2021 10:27:04 47 9
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They haven't "done" anything yet except talk - unless you can quote despatch details?
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19/02/2021 10:33:33 2 13
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Nothing new. Could be false promises.
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19/02/2021 11:00:12 27 8
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5% of nothing is nothing. So in fact they are doing nothing, unlike the UK government which is genuinely leading the World on this initiative.
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19/02/2021 11:07:07 16 4
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So what are they actually doing apart from talking their usual self interest garbage again
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19/02/2021 11:37:30 12 3
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The point is, Popeye, that the French are not doing anything. They're promising 5% of an unknown number, provided in the future. The UK will supply a lot more than 5%. You want firm dates - afraid in a pandemic, firm dates aren't possible. You clearly want to criticise, & I understand your frustration at searching in vain for a valid point...
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19/02/2021 11:38:33 15 2
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No they are not actually doing anything that is the problem

Talk is very cheap with Macron
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19/02/2021 11:38:41 13 2
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They are NOT DOING SOMETHING as they have no vaccines to give. More claptrap from Macron, the little napolean
19/02/2021 12:14:03 3 9
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Very nice of Boris to copy the French when he should have done it himself.
19/02/2021 12:26:51 7 3
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The UK has so far donated more than the rest of the EU combined to the COVAX program. 500 million pounds is an excellent start from the UK. The French have agreed to donate part of the 500 million Euro commitment shared among all its member countries. Not such a good start. Once again this is deflection politics from EU states facing domestic/EU conflicting agendas.
19/02/2021 12:30:15 7 3
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France is DOING NOTHING because, being in the EU, they don't have vaccine for their own population, let alone anybody else. More empty guff from M. Macron.
19/02/2021 13:21:17 2 2
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They are doing nothing, the French have only suggested 5% of "current" stock of which doesn't mean much to them as they messed up. They haven't committed to anything and not committed to sharing any future stock they have.
19/02/2021 13:32:29 3 1
bbc
Are you kidding?
After Trump withdrew from the WHO, Johnson announced that the UK, already the second biggest national donor (8.12% in 2019 compared with France 0.47%) would increase its donations by another 30% making it the "single largest national donor" (Guardian 25/9/20). Mercifully, Biden has rejoined.

I'm guessing that you just can't take off your partisan/Brexit resentment glasses.
19/02/2021 13:38:09 3 1
bbc
Just exactly what have France committed to?
All Macron has demanded is the the UK, US and Canada give 5% of doses. Nothing about him and France actually committing 5% of their stock pile.
Ohhh sorry they dont have one as its all controlled by the federalist elist in the EU Commission
19/02/2021 13:46:12 4 1
bbc
How is offering 5% of something you don't have DOING something?
He's a wind bag.
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19/02/2021 10:11:32 12 27
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Not another photo of the chief clown holding a vial! I'm fed up with seeing that fool and his silly stunts.
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19/02/2021 10:18:01 10 6
bbc
You never know - his and your governments actions might just have saved your life and enabled you to pass these comments.
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19/02/2021 10:21:35 3 2
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Prat
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CJR
19/02/2021 10:24:40 1 2
bbc
Don’t look then ??
153
19/02/2021 10:16:29 2 2
bbc
You're calling him a fool..........

How's your own political career going, mr Genius ?
413
19/02/2021 10:49:02 1 2
bbc
His advisors have told him that the more he is associated with the vaccine and the less with death in care homes the more people who don't think very deeply will vote for him.
574
19/02/2021 11:05:01 1 1
bbc
We are getting tired or your vial comments (see what I did there).

His offer is generous but only after this nations requirements are met first.
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19/02/2021 10:11:34 479 57
bbc
Morally this is the right thing to do and I hoope all of the G20 follow suit.

Assuming COVID will be around for many years to come, we may well need more vaccine in the future tailored to whichever strains are prevalent.

Hopefully big pharma will be up to the global supply challenges of the future.

Nice to be commenting on a huge British success story!
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19/02/2021 10:21:02 176 192
bbc
Quite right we should be sharing the vaccines. If the UK wants to be a major player on the international stage post Brexit it isn't going to do so by hogging the vaccines.

It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place? Normality isn't until all restrictions (quarantine, testing, PLFs) have been abolished.
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kh
19/02/2021 10:21:04 8 77
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Many many years of vaccinations ahead? People will get sick of it. Drugs companies will be the only ones interested after a while and the people that received the backhanders.
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19/02/2021 10:34:50 14 44
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Where was our help ?
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19/02/2021 10:33:24 55 43
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Yes, give them to our commonwealth friends, not the EU.
346
19/02/2021 10:42:18 9 72
bbc
"Morally this is the right thing to do..."

Really ?

Maybe it has a lot more to do with preventing Russia & China (Eurasia & Eastasia) gaining friends that the west has trashed in the past.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/coronavirus-vaccine-diplomacy-west-falling-behind-russia-china-race-influence

I won't be staying home if vaccine is diverted abroad for a "proxy war".
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19/02/2021 11:09:27 15 11
bbc
Spare us the morality slant. If morality obliges us to act in this way then the act is meaninglessly onerous. Morality is a personal issue and shouldn't be weaponised. This is a charitable act and, even though they don't ask for it, credit should be given in bucketloads to those choosing to act so magnanimously.
724
19/02/2021 11:19:51 3 18
bbc
And I hear over 40,s to be done by end of March, lets see how that one pans out.
Over 70,s are having to ring up when Doctors websites clearly state NOT to.
Whilst we are leading the way, hopefully not down a blind alley.
732
19/02/2021 11:20:54 5 19
bbc
Why did we buy such quantities that we have a surplus to auction off for favours?

76% if vaccines to date have gone to ten countries, that is despicable
755
19/02/2021 11:22:04 5 14
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Maybe once we have shared the surplus vaccine doses out to 'poorer' countries our government can start addressing homelessness, reliance on food banks, child poverty and malnutrition....

The list goes on and on.

There are millions of British people struggling with many/all of the above and this present government consistently refuses to acknowledge that.
916
19/02/2021 11:38:16 2 5
bbc
We should definitely share vaccines with poorer nations but we should also use some of that surplus to make sure people who are planning to visit the U.K. are vaccinated. Get a free vaccine with a visa or ticket to the U.K. will help re build our tourist industry.
19/02/2021 11:55:18 5 7
bbc
This was done months ago when the vaccine was announced but no doubt BJ was looking for another good old Boris deed, to recreate his populist image for his 'get Brexit done' fans They have such short memories
cvg
19/02/2021 12:01:53 2 5
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rather than give the vaccine away why not sell it to the poor at significant profit then we can re-invest all that money into advanced weapons which can then also sell to despotic regimes around the world? to ne that sounds like an ideal try tactic
19/02/2021 12:03:57 2 3
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Hopefully we will start with the many poorer countries that still have a union Jack on their flag or who are commonwealth. After all we have impacted them historically so owe them our assistance. And don't forget that the Oxford vaccine is being sold at cost so is significantly cheaper than most
19/02/2021 12:05:56 7 6
bbc
Rabid right wingers hate foreign aid. Bit of a dilemma for them.
19/02/2021 12:17:49 1 2
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NHS success
19/02/2021 12:24:43 3 3
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Huge British success story it may be , but the world is bigger than Britain . Vaccination only solves part of the problem , 25.000 will die in the world today through hunger / malnutrition , the more we vaccinate ourselves in developed countries and increase life expectancy the more strain we place on the worlds resources which sadly lead to deaths elsewhere . Vaccines won't give them food .
19/02/2021 12:35:01 4 4
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British Commonwealth first.
19/02/2021 12:38:53 2 0
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Big pharma will always be "up" for any challenge that will make them billions, that's why they exist.
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19/02/2021 10:07:35 521 119
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very generous of the French to offer 5% of something they don't have.
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19/02/2021 10:11:35 6 35
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What surplus British have with half a million who received second dose of vaccine?
19/02/2021 13:35:18 2 0
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The UK has ordered hundreds of millions of doses. There will be a surplus.
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19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
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19/02/2021 10:12:30 19 5
bbc
rubbish
45
19/02/2021 10:14:32 9 2
bbc
Good old sorrysorrysorry aka Bigmowlay with his usual conspiracy theory gumpf....world still flat, sun revolves around the earth, man didn't set foot on the moon...blah blah blah !! If only covid took away people like him....
50
19/02/2021 10:15:34 6 2
bbc
Welcome to the Friday garbage column
62
19/02/2021 10:16:52 7 2
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Thank you Mr Putin.
85
19/02/2021 10:19:14 8 2
bbc
Pathetic, grow up.
Disgusting post. The UK never covered it up. Cretin Removed
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CJR
19/02/2021 10:23:31 10 2
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My very sorry sorry friend pray tell me how efficient the Chinese vaccine is then?
I believe one is only 50% effective against the original variant, like most things made in China does not work.
Pray post your evidence my sorry friend reference the use of the Oxford vaccine not been used by other countries? Or are you just jealous?
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19/02/2021 10:24:53 4 1
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Morning me old China
150
19/02/2021 10:15:46 3 1
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Your not Chinese by any chance
169
19/02/2021 10:22:18 4 3
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Oh my the usual from you, hows your third wold country doing at the moment with vaccinations?
983
19/02/2021 11:45:10 2 0
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Please sit on it and stop talking out of it.
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19/02/2021 10:08:30 28 24
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Quite right we should be sharing the vaccines. If the UK wants to be a major player on the international stage post Brexit it isn't going to do so by hogging the vaccines.

It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place? Normality isn't until all restrictions (quarantine, testing, PLFs) have been abolished.
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19/02/2021 10:11:54 40 20
bbc
Care to tell us how much the rest of the European countries have given to the Covax initiative?
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19/02/2021 10:15:01 7 10
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That's the point. If Global Britain wants to be a major international player it needs to be out in front of Europe; not scrambling behind in their wake.

They give 5% we should be offering 10.
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19/02/2021 10:12:08 8 2
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The amount available be a drop in the ocean, and everyone feels hard done by if they don't get it straight away. How will the distribution be administered in poorer countries?
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kh
19/02/2021 10:15:15 1 6
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I'm sure the Bill Gates Foundation will be only too happy to aid administration and distribution. Jabbing people in poorer countries what they're good at.
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kh
19/02/2021 10:25:20 0 3
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Drop in the Ocean. ??????. Also salty water.
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19/02/2021 10:37:35 2 1
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You have raised an important question. Poor countries may not have the infrastructure for mass vaccination, and some are prone to corruption.
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19/02/2021 10:10:47 209 23
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Difficult one. We know the Pfizer vaccine needs special refrigeration which only really leaves the Oxford vaccine at the moment. And considering how high our death rate has been it will be difficult to justify delaying protection for the UK population and give it to less impacted countries!!
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19/02/2021 10:12:11 52 165
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Especially as we are paying twice the price of any other country!
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19/02/2021 10:15:17 41 10
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Of course you have irrefutable proof of this
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CJR
19/02/2021 10:25:02 35 5
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Please post your evidence
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19/02/2021 10:34:58 2 11
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And more liability.
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19/02/2021 10:37:01 33 7
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Where did you get that from???? Plucked out of the air I think
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19/02/2021 11:00:15 22 2
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They’d be happy to pay Uk prices in Germany , if they could have the same supply as uk
731
19/02/2021 11:20:54 9 2
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That's probaby why we are getting it and the EU aren't.
19/02/2021 11:50:29 10 1
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Hmm, let me think - paying £6 for a vaccination now or £3 for one in three or four months time ..........
19/02/2021 12:10:46 11 2
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Complete tosh, it's a non profit vaccine, so provided to all at cost
19/02/2021 12:47:33 2 3
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We are certainly paying the price as far as the number of deaths. Death rates appear lower in undeveloped countries probably because of lack of air travel, pubs and eating out due to poverty.
19/02/2021 13:21:33 1 1
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To the people that can understand this, if you buy 2 and give away 1 you have now paid twice the price for the 1 you have kept
19/02/2021 13:50:27 0 2
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seven times.
19/02/2021 15:02:46 2 2
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untrue still
32
19/02/2021 10:12:15 10 28
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It's like somebody grabbing thousands of toilet rolls when there's a shortage and then trying to sell them off later.

Disgusting.
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19/02/2021 10:14:48 14 5
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We're talking about giving the vaccine to third world countries not selling it.
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CJR
19/02/2021 10:18:09 6 1
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Read the article it say GIVE away, doh
77
19/02/2021 10:18:14 7 1
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calm down and actually read the story
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19/02/2021 10:18:20 10 1
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No it is nothing like that.

UK invested in multiple vaccine research areas, for the benefit of the world - with a hope that at least one would work.

As it happens, they pretty much all do so.
The developers required a "minimum purchase level" in order to be viable. Hence we have pre-ordered more than we may need.

He said "give away" not sell, too.

It is you who is disgusting with blind hate.
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19/02/2021 10:24:47 3 1
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No. They were 'bought' before it was even known if / when they would be approved. Buying more than our population meant even if some were delayed / no good, we would still have enough. I do of course agree with giving free to poorer nations. As long as covid is anywhere in high numbers the risk is there
340
19/02/2021 10:40:15 2 1
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Oh dear, try reading the article before commenting on it and then you might not make such a fool of yourself, the government isn't selling anything off, they will be giving them away for FREE...

"Disgusting" indeed that you comment nonsense on something you either haven't read or perhaps can't read...
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19/02/2021 10:09:14 20 21
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Great idea, Boris. We're doing really well in terms of vaccinations, so sharing the excess evenly will allow the world to get back to normal much quicker.

Funny how the mighty EU never broached this topic, isn't it? Better off out.
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19/02/2021 10:12:21 10 14
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Do you actually read the reports EU first do it, sending 5 per cent now. Johnson hanging onto their coat tails by promising something later in the year. Get your facts right if that's possible.
19/02/2021 14:50:17 1 0
bbc
Macron has suggested 5%. No one in the EU including France have confirmed this will happen as far as I am aware. Personally think it is a reasonable idea
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19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
34
19/02/2021 10:12:30 19 5
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rubbish
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19/02/2021 10:09:06 29 32
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No doubt the short sighted 'us first' brigade will be jumping up and down preaching their divisive nationalist nonsense. The pandemic is a global challenge, everyone on the planet needs to be vaccinated if we are ALL to be safe.
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19/02/2021 10:12:31 14 4
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Well, how about you and your family to skip having the vaccine so you can get someone else vaccinated abroad sooner...and then you can bore us all with how morally superior you are...while you are alive anyway.
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19/02/2021 10:08:50 12 7
bbc
There just isn't enough supply yet and not an easy thing to scale up to the numbers required
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19/02/2021 10:13:11 5 17
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Yep - bunch of people with vaccine appointments turned away at my local Boots due to no supply. No mechanism to get it elsewhere you have to re-book online or via 119. People were distraught. Also know of a lot of people who don't match the criteria for receiving the vaccine but have had it. Jabs for the boys eh?
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19/02/2021 10:32:42 3 3
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Really, seen their medical records have you?
435
19/02/2021 10:51:11 3 1
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Anyone who thinks that doing over half a million jabs a day without any administration mistakes being made is living in cloud cuckoo land and yes some jabs will be given to people rather than waste them
19/02/2021 14:46:08 1 1
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or the cheats and liars
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19/02/2021 10:13:26 8 34
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Johnsons cronies overbought and Macron has ShamefacedJohnson into saying something.
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19/02/2021 10:16:12 14 5
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Not true - far sighted for once, the UK got in before the turgid EU could make up it's/their minds - and as for Macron, well 5% of nothing is nothing.
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CJR
19/02/2021 10:17:36 8 2
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If they had not brought enough, you would then be on here moaning about that, you just can’t please some people.
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19/02/2021 10:20:32 5 2
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They didn't overbuy. They edged their bets because they had no way of knowing which companies would produce a working vaccine. Macron insisted that the EU vaccination plan had to include the French company Sanofi who have failed to produce a vaccine. All this makes your post utter utter utter drivel which happens to rhyme with Chisel!
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19/02/2021 10:19:53 0 2
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yes Dear
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19/02/2021 10:35:28 3 1
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And if Johnson had not bought enough, you would be complaining furiously about that.
337
19/02/2021 10:37:17 3 1
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All major governments across the world with the money "overbought" !!! they had to as they had no guarantee when or who would produce the first vaccines...

I aint a Tory or Johnson supporter I assure you but the simple reality is that is what you would do in situation like this when your nation can afford to do so and there's no "shame" in that...
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19/02/2021 10:10:22 7 20
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A global force for good as the Tory minister wants to project the government as, does not print money to buy up enough vaccine to inoculate the whole population 2.3 times.
Whatever the government is, it is not a force for good.
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19/02/2021 10:13:53 12 6
bbc
Would you rather they hadn't put money into the vaccine procurement system at an early stage so that we were in the same state as the EU?
39
19/02/2021 10:14:01 103 3
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This will be possible once more vaccines are approved over the coming weeks. At present supplies are unpredictable.
19/02/2021 13:04:04 6 66
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Once the elderly and physically vulnerable have been inoculated there is little need to touch the 99% or more who are at no risk from this virus. Nature will do it better for this massive majority of the population. There is no need to interfere with the development of collective immunity now that the small susceptible fraction is protected.
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19/02/2021 10:08:39 30 19
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How will they justify that wrt those complaining about foreign aid? Especially as our purchases are twice the price most other countries are paying for their vaccines!
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19/02/2021 10:14:14 12 14
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And Govt liable for any health issues in agreed contracts. Manufacturers responsible in EU contracts.
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19/02/2021 10:14:17 14 10
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No problem with this as long as it is after everyone in UK is vaccinated AND it is netted off the enormous Overseas Aid budget the UK taxpayer is already funding, after all what could be more urgent than this.
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19/02/2021 10:28:40 1 1
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Erm... it does say quite clearly in the article "Surplus" !!!
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19/02/2021 10:14:18 6 16
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What happened to the All Lives Matter people? Surely they're pro poorer nations getting the vaccine, no? It's funny how people who virtue signal like this don't want to help other countries. The same people who say All Lives Matter also say charity begins at home, then vote for benefit cuts. It's as if they don't really mean it!
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19/02/2021 10:17:25 5 3
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Don't forget, you are more likely to die from other diseases in third world countries than from Covid 19. That does not mean we don't help, but it does mean we need to get this in perspective.
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19/02/2021 10:27:02 0 2
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!!! strange question but perhaps like most people they haven't read this yet not forgetting at the time you posted that question the comments had only been opened for less than 20 minutes !!!

Give em a chance to at least have their breakfast & do other important things instead of thinking they best rush to the BBC and see if there's something for them to comment on...
267
19/02/2021 10:34:22 0 1
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Black Lives Matter do not have anything to say on this topic.
Sadly, the most deprived nations in the world are of the same ethnicity as the people refusing to have the vaccine in the UK. Discuss Removed
You cannot hide your racism that easily! Removed
142
19/02/2021 10:24:58 1 1
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Anti-vaxxers are not exclusive to the BAME groups. Don't be ridiculous.
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19/02/2021 10:23:37 1 1
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As soon as you see someone post "Discuss" at the end of their post then you know it's time to give that person a wide berth...
How much is China , the country that started all ,this giving away ? Removed
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19/02/2021 10:17:05 48 275
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No proof it did start in China
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19/02/2021 10:22:24 1 15
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Why do they have a vaccine ?
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kh
19/02/2021 10:22:45 15 9
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Would you want a vaccine made in China?
223
JML
19/02/2021 10:29:42 36 2
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China will be "giving" away millions of doses to countries it wishes to exert control over, ie most of Africa, South America etc. Modern day economic colonialism.
254
19/02/2021 10:33:10 16 14
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COVID-19 is a type of coronavirus.

There is now a UK variant, probably originated in UK and there may be another UK variant possibly resistant to vaccines.

Is the UK responsible for providing vaccines for all new variants originating here?

It does not matter where it started. it is a worldwide problem that needs a collaborative response.

Please put nationalism aside for this. It does not help.
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19/02/2021 10:39:59 13 1
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Sinopharm is supplying vaccines to several S. American countries at little or no cost as away of extending its influence to non-aligned nations.
338
19/02/2021 10:41:56 6 4
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wouldn't want a Chinese vaccine thanks....
463
19/02/2021 10:53:33 1 8
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Great idea! Lets start blaming everybody for each infectious disease that started in their country:

Foot Mouth Disease (the UK)- perhaps?
Spanish Flu (which didn't start in Spain actually) - maybe?
Dutch Elm Disease - for coming over here and killing all our good British trees?

Or what about the millions of people, animals and plants killed when the colonial powers exported diseases globally?!
472
19/02/2021 10:54:28 2 1
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I don't know why don't the BBC send in a journalist and ask them...oh wait...
504
19/02/2021 10:58:21 1 1
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I think we need to go easy on the blame game here. Yes it originated in China, and yes they need to reform wet markets and avoid cover ups etc. But we need to recognise a pandemic can start anywhere. Remember mad cow disease? That started here and could have caused a much nastier pandemic. China need to do what we did and change their food practices to reduce the chances of it happening again.
548
19/02/2021 11:02:28 1 1
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Ray the answer to that is actually quite a lot.
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19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
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19/02/2021 10:14:32 9 2
bbc
Good old sorrysorrysorry aka Bigmowlay with his usual conspiracy theory gumpf....world still flat, sun revolves around the earth, man didn't set foot on the moon...blah blah blah !! If only covid took away people like him....
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19/02/2021 10:09:59 9 24
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Johnson shamed into doing something by Macron. Wow not go down well with brexiteers but wait, EU sending 5 per cent now UK who ordered more than four times more vaccine than it needed, will wait until later in the year. So Johnson's promise on hold.
46
19/02/2021 10:14:33 8 4
bbc
5% of nothing is actually.................................
423
19/02/2021 10:49:45 1 4
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Nationalistic jargon as usual. In Boris we trust. Sad.
32
19/02/2021 10:12:15 10 28
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It's like somebody grabbing thousands of toilet rolls when there's a shortage and then trying to sell them off later.

Disgusting.
47
19/02/2021 10:14:48 14 5
bbc
We're talking about giving the vaccine to third world countries not selling it.
64
19/02/2021 10:16:57 1 7
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Believe that and you'll believe anything, the only people the Cons give anything to is their mates. LOL.
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19/02/2021 10:17:32 6 2
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Also Oxford/AZ is the only vaccine produced on a not-for-profit basis....
81
19/02/2021 10:18:51 0 5
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Don't be so naive.
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19/02/2021 10:11:54 40 20
bbc
Care to tell us how much the rest of the European countries have given to the Covax initiative?
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19/02/2021 10:15:01 7 10
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That's the point. If Global Britain wants to be a major international player it needs to be out in front of Europe; not scrambling behind in their wake.

They give 5% we should be offering 10.
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Ian
19/02/2021 10:24:09 17 2
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Why should what the UK gives be related to what the eu gives? We decide for ourselves now.
265
19/02/2021 10:34:17 6 1
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So you advocate a pi$$ing competition ^^
385
19/02/2021 10:46:04 4 1
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Please understand - 5% of nothing is precisely ........................
19/02/2021 15:51:51 0 0
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looks like we're offering over 50% (eventually)
31
19/02/2021 10:12:11 52 165
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Especially as we are paying twice the price of any other country!
49
19/02/2021 10:15:17 41 10
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Of course you have irrefutable proof of this
19/02/2021 14:53:35 2 1
bbc
The BMJ has stated we are paying just over double what the EU is for the AZ vaccine. I'm not sure about the others, perhaps do some research for yourself.
28
19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
50
19/02/2021 10:15:34 6 2
bbc
Welcome to the Friday garbage column
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19/02/2021 10:07:35 521 119
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very generous of the French to offer 5% of something they don't have.
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19/02/2021 10:15:50 26 82
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Typical. But report says 5 per cent going now, Johnson's promise maybe later in the year. Facts don't matter to ant EU brigade.
Facts and Brexiteers are mutually exclusive terms. We all know this by now... apart from those who have their heads in the sand. Removed
298
19/02/2021 10:38:19 21 5
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What have Germany said ?
19/02/2021 13:45:45 3 3
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Here is a fact for you. UK COVAX contribution £500 million. EU COVAX contribution 500 million Euros combined but facts don't matter to Europhiles.
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19/02/2021 10:10:47 209 23
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Difficult one. We know the Pfizer vaccine needs special refrigeration which only really leaves the Oxford vaccine at the moment. And considering how high our death rate has been it will be difficult to justify delaying protection for the UK population and give it to less impacted countries!!
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19/02/2021 10:15:51 30 2
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That isn’t what is being said. We have on order more vaccines than we need, and when they become available and we have vaccinated the priority groups we will start diverting some of vaccines elsewhere. You are quite right given our death rates are higher than in most other countries our need at the moment is greater
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19/02/2021 11:10:11 20 3
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Macron is suggesting 4-5% of current supplies not future supplies. I have no problem wit future supplies but I would not say we have surplus just yet.
Great news for Scotland Removed
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 5 7
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But Scotland has now vaccinated more per head of population than England and covered more health care workers and care home residents....and has lower infection rates....so your point is?
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19/02/2021 10:24:36 3 3
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don't ask awkward questions the haters will be after you
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19/02/2021 10:26:55 1 2
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How on earth can Scotland have vaccinated more health care workers and care home residents than England! When they were all done weeks ago.
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 3 5
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Are the Russians giving away any of their Sputnik?
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19/02/2021 10:18:17 1 3
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Yes
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19/02/2021 10:20:46 0 1
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Wouldn't you?
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Faz
What surplus? Surely if there's a short term surplus then our population can get vaccinated more quickly?
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We don't have enough staff at the centres to increase, perhaps you would like to volunteer at the centres? on wait you spend all your time on here
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19/02/2021 10:20:32 2 1
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False info - centres are running well hence our progress on vaccination compared to others.
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19/02/2021 10:07:22 137 33
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What surplus? Surely if there's a short term surplus then our population can get vaccinated more quickly?
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19/02/2021 10:16:08 7 17
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Typical.
19/02/2021 13:09:48 2 3
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No, sensible, which I don't think you are, despite your username.
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19/02/2021 10:13:26 8 34
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Johnsons cronies overbought and Macron has ShamefacedJohnson into saying something.
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19/02/2021 10:16:12 14 5
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Not true - far sighted for once, the UK got in before the turgid EU could make up it's/their minds - and as for Macron, well 5% of nothing is nothing.
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19/02/2021 10:16:20 9 10
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The vaccine hoarders. Don't book a holiday abroad, you won't be going.
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19/02/2021 10:25:06 8 2
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Who is hoarding vaccine ?

Nonsense post.
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19/02/2021 10:29:18 1 1
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Perhaps you wold be willing to forgo your own vaccination and donate your dose to someone in a poor country?
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19/02/2021 10:44:14 1 1
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No one is hoarding vaccines. Vaccines are being given as soon as it is available, the issue at the moment is lack of supply as factories can’t produce it quick enough. Fortunately more production facilities are being produced which will address this
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19/02/2021 10:16:21 111 49
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Why is it so hard for many on these pages to realise till everywhere and every single human being on the planet is vaccinated than nowhere and nobody is safe!? Why can't people see the wider picture?
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19/02/2021 10:20:37 87 71
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It's because they are selfish.
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19/02/2021 10:24:47 26 25
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So me and my family life has to be put on hold because someone in Yemen hasn’t been vaccinated? We need to get back to normal
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19/02/2021 10:28:15 30 11
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Governments have the duty to look after their own population as the first priority.
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19/02/2021 10:37:09 17 20
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Because that's simply not true. Are you proposing to vaccinate the uncontacted peoples deep in the Amazon rain forest? Or the Sentinelese who use lethal force against visitors to their island? And what about people who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons? Basically, we're never going to vaccinate "every single human being on the planet", so by your logic we'll never be safe.
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19/02/2021 10:51:10 12 2
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And people dont want to do even basic maths or cant accept the help given by UK to OTHERS.
UK population is around 68 million and vaccines we have ordered 400 million and UK is vaccinating its population rapidly. So leftover is given. Thats it.
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19/02/2021 11:00:01 18 6
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who is saying don't send the vaccines elsewhere?
People are just saying vaccinate the people here first in the country with one of the highest death rates, and then vaccinate elsewhere.
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19/02/2021 11:07:03 4 9
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Its because that just is not actually true. About 99% of the World population are safe from dying if they get Covid-19. We need to properly focus prevention and support at the vulnerable targets, then if the rest of the world gets it and recovers we don't actually have a problem.
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19/02/2021 11:15:53 5 7
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Your assertion is bunkum. I am safe fromTB because I have been vaccinated. Millions worldwide die from it bercause they haven't. I don't, becasue I have.
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19/02/2021 11:34:22 9 2
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Maybe because your black & white view of the world is nonsensical?
Safety from a virus isn't a simple binary thing. Vaccination is all about reducing risk - building up herd immunity to reduce spread within the community and improving the individual body's ability to combat the virus when exposed to it. Even if only 50% of global population is vaccinated, the impact on deaths will be massive.
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19/02/2021 12:58:04 2 0
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Why do you think people don't see that ? The question is how do you vaccinate the world. I think after Smallpox ... Cholera ... Polio ... MMR ..... do you not think that WHO and Govts have an idea of how to do it ? Its not only providing - but also making sure its used properly. Do you want a country to not use correctly and create a virus immune to the vaccine ?
19/02/2021 13:00:51 1 1
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If there is no travel each country is safe as it completes its vaccination programme. You complete for your own before helping others
19/02/2021 13:27:51 0 1
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As we have one of the worst death rates in the world we need to consider ourselves as a priority. We shouldnt put the country in a position where we are giving the vaccine to people who are in a better position the we are. Help those who need it most.
19/02/2021 14:21:59 0 0
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You are only ‘safe’ when you’re dead. No vaccine guarantees total 100% immunity and I know of people who have still died with Covid with the vaccine.
A vaccine will reduce your chances of death and severe disease and the sooner people like you see the wider picture the better. What do you want next? A vaccine that cures old age?
19/02/2021 17:10:26 0 0
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We all know this,it's why we all should have to bankrupt our country so that the wider richer world sit back and suck us dry
20/02/2021 06:54:26 0 0
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Because you are wrong. First define safe... No flu is not an option, you also don't need to vaccinate everyone to stop it. Treatment is also important NHS is 5th worst in the whole world at keeping people alive and still only 3% die. Not good if you are unlucky but far from the worst that has happened
20/02/2021 08:05:06 0 0
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But not including the UK?
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19/02/2021 10:16:26 3 20
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Give 'em the Oxford variety, Boris. Keep the good stuff for your own people.
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19/02/2021 10:17:34 12 3
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Idiot
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19/02/2021 10:21:28 4 2
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Can you please stop showing pictures of that idiot Johnson pretending he knows what he’s doing!
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19/02/2021 10:24:30 1 2
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Thanks for that,I have just had the Oxford variety,there was no choice ,!
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19/02/2021 10:25:59 2 2
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There is nothing wrong with the Oxford variety. I would have it without hesitation.
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19/02/2021 10:23:45 1 2
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Thanks for letting us know your not British
If there were any real justice in the world China would be footing the bill.

Lord knows they can afford it!
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19/02/2021 10:36:19 13 25
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They are not responsible for our mismanagement in containing the spread of COVID-19. The "Blaming China for everything" mantra is getting old, because it is not true in this case.
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19/02/2021 11:11:31 4 5
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Spot on
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19/02/2021 11:14:03 2 2
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You say "They" can afford it, But is this reality. They are "rich" because of their size.

But they have massive amounts of povety in their own country. A large rural population with lower standard of living compared to our own lifestyles. So I can imagine they will start their first.
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19/02/2021 11:21:26 2 13
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Any real justice and the UK would be helping out the countries that they plundered in the name of the Empire, Is the reason many of these countries are so poor.
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19/02/2021 11:31:21 3 3
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France has announced it had Covid in November 2019, so 'blaming' China is not necessarily right
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19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
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19/02/2021 10:16:52 7 2
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Thank you Mr Putin.
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19/02/2021 10:16:57 7 22
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Donate the vaccines NOW!

10% of all vaccines manufactured every day must be pre-allocated to the poorest nations.
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19/02/2021 10:23:17 2 2
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No point.
Unless there is sufficient to vaccinate a significant portion of the population, then it will have little effect as the variants pile in.
Distribution of a small number to a disperse population would render it impractical

Besides, in many of these corrupt countries, those who receive the vaccine first would be the corrupt politicians, military and (like in France) corrupt administrators
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19/02/2021 10:23:12 0 2
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Why
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19/02/2021 10:14:48 14 5
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We're talking about giving the vaccine to third world countries not selling it.
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19/02/2021 10:16:57 1 7
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Believe that and you'll believe anything, the only people the Cons give anything to is their mates. LOL.
19/02/2021 15:21:53 0 0
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So that's what our donation to Covax is for - Its a cover for Boris own bank account! There are plenty of conservatives with a moral compass
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19/02/2021 10:08:30 28 24
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Quite right we should be sharing the vaccines. If the UK wants to be a major player on the international stage post Brexit it isn't going to do so by hogging the vaccines.

It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place? Normality isn't until all restrictions (quarantine, testing, PLFs) have been abolished.
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19/02/2021 10:17:03 5 12
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@"It's all very well vaccinating our own population but how are we going to open up the economy if travel restrictions are still in place?"

This doesn't make sense.

Surely if you've vaccinated your own population, it doesn't matter if unvaccinated foreigners arrive - we're still protected.

Nor if a vaccinated brit then goes to an unvaccinated country - we already have travel vaccination.
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19/02/2021 10:34:53 8 2
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Being vaccinated does not mean you cannot contract or transmit it.
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19/02/2021 10:17:05 322 23
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Surely an ideal use of the overseas aid budget. Aid budget can pay department who purchased vaccines in first place, purchase even more, together with PPE, syringes etc. and give the whole lot to WHO to allocate out. I would rather see Aid Budget spent this way than Human rights in China who will never change their ways.
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19/02/2021 10:24:43 84 261
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Developing world would probably prefer food, fuel and education. Especially when it comes to fighting a virus with 99.99% survival rate.
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19/02/2021 10:42:34 25 9
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The international aid budget need to be more like a international aid and disaster relief fund. It should be more targeted on emergencies instead of woolly projects and empty politically correct gestures just to use up the yearly pot of cash.
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19/02/2021 10:48:08 13 21
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I would have a refund to me from overseas aid. We have first call on our own money, not people living in nice warm countries.
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19/02/2021 11:05:36 15 9
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"give the whole lot to WHO to allocate out"

Just adding another layer of bureaucracy arguing about which nations should be prioritised
Be as big a farce as the EU vaccine purchase scheme
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19/02/2021 11:41:00 1 3
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Give it to the WHO or distribute it ourselves doesn't really matter, but we should take a long hard look at our overseas aid budget. It should NOT be cut, but should we really be handing out money to countries who can afford nuclear weapons? There should also be far better accountability. The aid must all go to the most disadvantaged, not into the pockets of rulers and corrupt administrators.
19/02/2021 13:05:02 2 0
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Not sure exactly what it is Bozo has promised? What is meant by surplus? Does it mean, hey we don't need this now you can have ours?

There's very little point in the world's big economic nations being clear if CV19 is rampaging elsewhere and madly mutating into something more contagious and deadly, ready to begin the cycle all over again!

Foreign Aid greases the wheels of UK commerce!!
19/02/2021 13:48:57 1 0
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or perhaps we could stop the city of London enabling the wholesale pillaging of poor countries in the first place and that would enable them to pay for vaccines.
19/02/2021 13:54:19 1 0
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Not much being put into the Aid Budget now. As a % of GDP it went down but the government have also cut the %, so a double whammy.

At the rate we are going it should not be too long before all are vaccinated, but e it seems likely that the levels in the poorer countries will be keeping going up, as ours did, so the sooner we can act the better, to prevent many more variants emerging,
How much is China , the country that started all ,this giving away ? Removed
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No proof it did start in China
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19/02/2021 10:21:36 64 16
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Yes, there is 100% proof the Chinese are responsible
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19/02/2021 10:25:25 38 2
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Whether or not it "originated" in China is up for debate yes. It did however start spearing from China and the proof is all over supporting that.
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19/02/2021 10:25:39 14 5
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Not now they've destroyed it all.
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19/02/2021 10:26:38 1 43
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No proof it started. If truth be told.
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19/02/2021 10:37:06 12 7
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CCP troll alert
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19/02/2021 10:42:23 11 1
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There is though. First reported cases, first hospitalizations and first deaths from COVID 19 were all found in China.... if its from somewhere else, they have done a great job of hiding it.
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19/02/2021 11:00:25 0 4
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Really! Your on the left then.
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19/02/2021 10:14:18 6 16
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What happened to the All Lives Matter people? Surely they're pro poorer nations getting the vaccine, no? It's funny how people who virtue signal like this don't want to help other countries. The same people who say All Lives Matter also say charity begins at home, then vote for benefit cuts. It's as if they don't really mean it!
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19/02/2021 10:17:25 5 3
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Don't forget, you are more likely to die from other diseases in third world countries than from Covid 19. That does not mean we don't help, but it does mean we need to get this in perspective.
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19/02/2021 10:24:39 1 1
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Doesn't answer the question, though. If people truly believed All Lives Matter then they would be pro giving vaccines to the poorest countries in the world where this is a coronavirus problem. The same people who say All Lives Matter also think we should cut foreign aid. Do you detect a pattern? Because I do...
Not articles about what calvin robinson has had had to deal with. Why? Removed
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19/02/2021 10:14:48 14 5
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We're talking about giving the vaccine to third world countries not selling it.
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19/02/2021 10:17:32 6 2
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Also Oxford/AZ is the only vaccine produced on a not-for-profit basis....
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19/02/2021 10:16:26 3 20
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Give 'em the Oxford variety, Boris. Keep the good stuff for your own people.
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19/02/2021 10:17:34 12 3
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Idiot
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19/02/2021 10:13:26 8 34
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Johnsons cronies overbought and Macron has ShamefacedJohnson into saying something.
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19/02/2021 10:17:36 8 2
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If they had not brought enough, you would then be on here moaning about that, you just can’t please some people.
Sadly, the most deprived nations in the world are of the same ethnicity as the people refusing to have the vaccine in the UK. Discuss Removed
You cannot hide your racism that easily! Removed
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19/02/2021 10:22:25 2 2
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Facts aren't racist.
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19/02/2021 10:31:48 0 1
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It is not racism to state a fact.
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19/02/2021 10:11:32 12 27
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Not another photo of the chief clown holding a vial! I'm fed up with seeing that fool and his silly stunts.
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19/02/2021 10:18:01 10 6
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You never know - his and your governments actions might just have saved your life and enabled you to pass these comments.
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19/02/2021 10:10:14 30 14
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Any comment on the attitude of the EU?
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19/02/2021 10:18:03 5 25
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EU attitude is accurate after it was found out that British are stealing EU contracted AZ vaccines.
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19/02/2021 10:19:50 21 5
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You mean the ones the UK contracted three months earlier while the EU was navel gazing....?
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19/02/2021 10:47:53 3 3
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Lies
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19/02/2021 11:07:53 5 3
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AZ was delivering UK contracted vaccines.
EU wanted them and were refused.
The EU shortfall for the first quarter is more than the number of doses UK has received or will receive in the first half of the year.
We did not steal their doses.
If they had ordered when we did they would have had their doses when we did. If they had never placed an order we would not have had fewer doses.
19/02/2021 14:47:15 1 1
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look up the definition of stealing
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19/02/2021 10:12:15 10 28
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It's like somebody grabbing thousands of toilet rolls when there's a shortage and then trying to sell them off later.

Disgusting.
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19/02/2021 10:18:09 6 1
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Read the article it say GIVE away, doh
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19/02/2021 10:12:15 10 28
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It's like somebody grabbing thousands of toilet rolls when there's a shortage and then trying to sell them off later.

Disgusting.
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19/02/2021 10:18:14 7 1
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calm down and actually read the story
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 3 5
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Are the Russians giving away any of their Sputnik?
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19/02/2021 10:18:17 1 3
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Yes
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19/02/2021 10:31:04 1 1
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You are naive. If the Russians or the Chinese appear to give away their vaccines, they are doing so for a reason. They will want something in return.
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19/02/2021 10:12:15 10 28
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It's like somebody grabbing thousands of toilet rolls when there's a shortage and then trying to sell them off later.

Disgusting.
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19/02/2021 10:18:20 10 1
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No it is nothing like that.

UK invested in multiple vaccine research areas, for the benefit of the world - with a hope that at least one would work.

As it happens, they pretty much all do so.
The developers required a "minimum purchase level" in order to be viable. Hence we have pre-ordered more than we may need.

He said "give away" not sell, too.

It is you who is disgusting with blind hate.
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19/02/2021 10:10:54 88 422
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At least they are DOING something. (Not so) Cleverley would answer the question of ‘when?’.
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19/02/2021 10:18:44 65 18
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Except they aren't!

I will donate 100% of the vaccines that I have. There, am I doing something too?
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19/02/2021 10:14:48 14 5
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We're talking about giving the vaccine to third world countries not selling it.
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19/02/2021 10:18:51 0 5
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Don't be so naive.
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19/02/2021 10:18:54 4 16
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Another Tory Party political broadcast by the BBC, now in the grip of Tory management. The NHS and scientists have saved us from Covid, not this government. You wouldn’t know it from the right wing media frenzy about this “amazing” government and PM. Highest death rate in Europe and worst economic impact of all Western Countries. As a tax payer I resent paying for a Tory propaganda machine.
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19/02/2021 10:24:27 4 4
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The BBC is in the grip of Tory management? Is this a joke? Have you not noticed the BBC's anti-Brexit reporting, and all the woke stories which are featured?
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19/02/2021 10:30:52 1 2
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The BBC aiding the Tory Party? You must be joking! Have you not been watching the BBC News presenters this past couple of years? They are as biased as hell towards Johnson and his party. Of course you are a remoaner and will have a go at the Tories at every stupid opportunity. Get a life. You lost.
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19/02/2021 10:18:55 152 5
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There's a big difference between ordering vaccines and actually having them. Some of the vaccines the UK have placed orders for haven't yet been approved for use. Also, Canada caused controversy a couple of weeks ago by applying themselves to Covax for vaccines. Covax was set up to supply vaccines to 3rd world countries, NZ I believe also applied. You can't give something away you haven't got.
19/02/2021 13:51:17 44 8
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Unless you are called Macron apparently!!!
19/02/2021 22:22:57 0 0
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Actually Canada made a substantial financial contribution to Covax some time ago - on the understanding that half the funds it allocated to Covax would be used to obtain vaccines for Canada and the other half of the funds to purchase vaccines for the developing world.
20/02/2021 22:59:19 0 0
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Boris has given money away that isn't his, when he was mayor he wasted £50 million of taxpayers money on contractors for a garden bridge vanity project that didn't even get a single brick laid.

Also, Dominic Cummings awarded PPE contracts to friends who had never dealt with PPE in their life, again taxpayers money wasted.
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19/02/2021 10:19:07 199 55
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Look after Number One before you go elsewhere. Some of these foreign Governments are run by multi millionaires and their people are in poverty. They don't help their own people at all
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19/02/2021 10:22:00 83 115
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Is this a grade A irony post.
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19/02/2021 10:25:27 17 16
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That's right- some foreign corrupt ruler could take 1000s of vaccine shots himself and leave NOTHING for anyone else.
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19/02/2021 11:13:20 10 6
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Is it that there are a lot of billionaires in China who have made their fortunes from exploiting their own people using communist bullying.
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19/02/2021 11:31:48 11 8
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Like the UK?
Are you unaware that you described Boris Johnsons UK perfectly?

Or are you being sarcastic?

I really cannot tell......
19/02/2021 12:43:09 5 4
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It's the way it's always been.

Either that or they're fighting each other.

I can't think of many years when there hasn't been some sort of local conflict going on. What is it now? Somalia
19/02/2021 13:07:27 9 2
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Those are the same countries also telling COVAX they want to be given the funding to buy vaccine, rather than be supplied with the vaccine.

I wonder why that might be...
Phi
19/02/2021 13:14:47 2 1
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Tell that to the many that refuse the vaccine, why hoard vaccines we won't use?

People don't look after themselves so I'm not sure where "They" don't help their own people at all
19/02/2021 13:19:21 2 4
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Any we are run by a clown, but our fish are happy....
19/02/2021 13:27:19 5 2
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How true

The third world is run by rich people who couldn't care less about their compatriots
19/02/2021 13:51:24 2 1
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and all of it enabled by the City of London.
19/02/2021 14:19:35 3 0
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Nineteen of the twenty-three members of David Cameron's first cabinet - you know, the one that introduced the most stringent austerity measures for generations - were millionaires.

Since 2010, foodbank usage has increased 3,800%.
19/02/2021 14:30:39 2 0
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The UK being a prime example.
19/02/2021 14:42:54 2 0
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Look after our own? Unless it's our own hungry children eh?
VoR
19/02/2021 15:06:35 1 1
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As opposed to our domestic government?
19/02/2021 15:52:21 1 0
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Bit like ours then.
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19/02/2021 10:11:39 7 45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UK can't even help itself, alone helping other nations, this clown is a laughing stock indeed

PLUS

No other nations will use the Oxford vaccine with <10% efficacy against new variants of the British Virus that has been spreading to the rest of the world after the UK regime covered it up for months
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19/02/2021 10:19:14 8 2
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Pathetic, grow up.
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19/02/2021 10:10:47 209 23
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Difficult one. We know the Pfizer vaccine needs special refrigeration which only really leaves the Oxford vaccine at the moment. And considering how high our death rate has been it will be difficult to justify delaying protection for the UK population and give it to less impacted countries!!
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19/02/2021 10:19:42 6 66
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Pfizer vaccine actually works so we should keep that one and chuck the rest.
19/02/2021 12:16:21 13 1
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Every time you post you show your anti-British prejudice and your complete ignorance. AZ also works, including preventing spreading by about 60 -70%, is considerably cheaper than the Pfizer and doesn't have to be stored at -60 to -80 degrees so ideal for poorer countries.
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19/02/2021 10:18:03 5 25
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EU attitude is accurate after it was found out that British are stealing EU contracted AZ vaccines.
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19/02/2021 10:19:50 21 5
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You mean the ones the UK contracted three months earlier while the EU was navel gazing....?
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19/02/2021 10:10:42 105 53
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Surplus of what? Barely half a million received second dose of the vaccine.
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19/02/2021 10:20:00 57 68
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I bet your glass is always half empty.
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19/02/2021 10:38:51 1 10
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I bet you're a 'glass' kinda guy ;)
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19/02/2021 10:54:20 5 9
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Nasty remark.

The MANUFACTURERS have clearly stated that 2 doses are needed to give really good protection.

There are FAR MORE than 500 000 at risk people. to even think about giving vaccines away abroad before those people have been given 2 doses is quite sickening. The per capita death toll in the UK is amongst the highest in the world ... thanks to haters like you.
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19/02/2021 11:41:15 1 1
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Isn't it all relative?

Depends upon the size of the glass?!
19/02/2021 14:30:10 1 1
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Mines always empty if there’s Scotch on the go.
19/02/2021 21:33:39 0 0
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It's probably cracked
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19/02/2021 10:20:04 7 4
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With the virus's ability to mutate, anybody saying "we're alright Jack" and that we shouldn't help is being rather short-sighted.
The world needs to get vaccinated or before long a variant/mutation will come along that will not be affected by any of the current vaccines.
Nobody is safe until we are all safe.
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19/02/2021 10:26:29 2 1
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The whole world is never going to be vaccinated and so regardless if we like it or not we have to live with it.
Get the vulnerable vaccinated, if they want it, then let's get on with life.
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19/02/2021 10:41:34 2 1
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Agreed, but given the U.K. is one of the worst, if not the worst affected we need to get our vulnerable vaccinated first. If you believe the figures the U.K. is in many cases 3 or 4 times worse affected than many 3rd world country, which may be true as the virus affects the elderly more and many third world countries have a younger average age than we do
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19/02/2021 11:11:36 0 1
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Haven't seen a single comment that we should send surplus vaccines to countries in need when we have surplus vaccines.
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19/02/2021 10:20:21 7 10
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Who on earth made Boris the chairman of G7 ?what an embarrassment,one of the most ineffective PMs in modern day history.Does this man's ego know no bounds.More G7 blunders to follow.
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19/02/2021 10:22:49 0 7
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Your turgid, fetid opinion is just tiresome.
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19/02/2021 10:27:31 0 5
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Grow up ... without BJ we wouldn't even have any vaccines to give a way.
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19/02/2021 10:20:24 3 6
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Just a reminder Boris, there are two pandemics going on in the UK. The other is a tsunami of people waiting for essential surgery who live now in misery and uncertainty. You seem to be working hard at diverting attention. Even the Labour party are ignoring them. Sure give up the vaccines but don’t pose as some being of any virtue.
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19/02/2021 10:20:30 9 14
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NO!
If you send these vaccines off anywhere else BEFORE every single person in the country has had one you're a traitor.
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19/02/2021 10:22:51 5 3
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I am more than happy to give my vaccine to a health worker in a poorer country.

I can wait a year. no worries.
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19/02/2021 10:23:49 2 4
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Maybe Boris should do what his ads say and "Look into the eyes" of a COVID sufferer....
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19/02/2021 10:46:42 2 1
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Lovely stuff. The very essence of what it is to be human.
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 3 8
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Faz
What surplus? Surely if there's a short term surplus then our population can get vaccinated more quickly?
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We don't have enough staff at the centres to increase, perhaps you would like to volunteer at the centres? on wait you spend all your time on here
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19/02/2021 10:20:32 2 1
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False info - centres are running well hence our progress on vaccination compared to others.
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19/02/2021 10:13:26 8 34
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Johnsons cronies overbought and Macron has ShamefacedJohnson into saying something.
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19/02/2021 10:20:32 5 2
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They didn't overbuy. They edged their bets because they had no way of knowing which companies would produce a working vaccine. Macron insisted that the EU vaccination plan had to include the French company Sanofi who have failed to produce a vaccine. All this makes your post utter utter utter drivel which happens to rhyme with Chisel!
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19/02/2021 10:16:21 111 49
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Why is it so hard for many on these pages to realise till everywhere and every single human being on the planet is vaccinated than nowhere and nobody is safe!? Why can't people see the wider picture?
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19/02/2021 10:20:37 87 71
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It's because they are selfish.
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19/02/2021 11:31:17 8 4
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As far as I can see they're predominantly worrying about their Summer holidays and when the bars and restaurants will open up again.
19/02/2021 12:25:00 3 4
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If you are so unselfish sell your home and give the money to other countries. As it stands many of us in this country will soon lose our homes due to the lockdown. Our priorities are our own family. This is not selfish!!
19/02/2021 13:30:52 1 0
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"It's because they are selfish"

No, just amazingly ignorant
19/02/2021 14:25:44 0 0
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Give up your vaccine up then. I’m selfish and not scared to admit it. If the virus kills you without it at least you can get selfless comfort in an early demise.
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19/02/2021 10:20:38 294 82
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I don't have a problem in helping out other countries, but shouldn't we be looking after our own people first when there are still at least three quarters of the UK waiting for their first jab?

Charity begins at home.
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19/02/2021 10:38:38 201 17
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We are looking after ourselves. The point is that we have ordered more than we need, and at a future point we will have more than we need. It is then we will be helping other countries. I suspect this will happen around June when we will have vaccinated our priority groups twice, and vaccine supplies will have increased significantly
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19/02/2021 11:14:35 6 15
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Precisely, but we can do both by supplying Scotland.
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19/02/2021 11:36:37 4 0
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Read the article, that is the plan.
19/02/2021 11:48:53 13 2
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Charity begins at home... but doesn't have to end there.
19/02/2021 12:19:01 14 1
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I don't believe this will slow the UK vaccination programme. The more covid cases there are worldwide, the higher the risk of new variants evolving. It therefore follows that a programme to vaccinate the entire world's population will reduce the chance of us all needing another vaccine for a new variant in a 6-12 months time.
19/02/2021 12:45:50 7 4
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At the end of the day, it is about acknowledging that we are in the fortunate position to be able to develop vaccines because years ago we, as did all other European powers, exploited the riches and resources of other countries. Most of the poverty and problems they have stem from this. Therefore, we (and I include France, Belgium, Spain, Germany etc.) have a duty to support them.
19/02/2021 12:58:14 2 0
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Surplus
NOUN
an amount of something left over when requirements have been met; an excess of production or supply.
"exports of food surpluses"
synonyms:
excess · surfeit · overabundance · superabundance · superfluity · oversupply · oversufficiency · glut · profusion · plethora · remainder · residue · remnant · remains · leftovers
19/02/2021 13:05:39 3 1
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Not sure exactly what it is Bozo has promised? What is meant by surplus? Does it mean, hey we don't need this now you can have ours?

There's very little point in the world's big economic nations being clear if CV19 is rampaging elsewhere and madly mutating into something more contagious and deadly, ready to begin the cycle all over again!
Phi
19/02/2021 13:10:12 2 0
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We have too many vaccines and there's plenty of people here that won't take them so why hoard what we won't use?

Charity is already at home but some people refuse it!
19/02/2021 13:34:41 1 3
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And they are cancelling appointments for second jabs, probably cos they are giving it away to poorer countries
19/02/2021 13:50:29 3 0
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You don't get this whole World Survival thing, do you? There is only one planet and we stand or fall together.
19/02/2021 14:11:33 3 0
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I think thats the idea Neil. We have over ordered though, so will have a surplus.

Its also in our own interest not to have variants arriving from countries that have rampant infection rates due to vaccine shartages.

The Game changer in Developing countries will be the single Dose Vaccines though. Lets hope Johnson & Johnson supply at cost as well.
xlr
19/02/2021 14:30:24 1 0
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Charity begins at home but mutations begin in people who haven't been vaccinated.

You can't just immunise everyone in UK and expect the problem to go away. Viruses just don't work like that.
ARE YOU A LEAVE VOTER BY ANY CHANCE
19/02/2021 14:41:29 0 0
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Unless it's feeding our own hungry children eh?
VoR
19/02/2021 15:04:19 1 0
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I'm not sure domestic Covidiots deserve prioritising over the sensible foreigners living in poor countries. We will never be able to vaccinate all of the UK because (medical exceptions aside) there are too many people who can't distinguish between reliable data sources/analysis and made up stories about what "my friend's medical mom's colleague" allegedly said.
19/02/2021 15:06:33 1 0
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It also looks like parroting out your prejudices before reading the article also "begins at home"....we'll give them what we cannot use when we are finished vaccinating our people.
19/02/2021 15:22:41 1 0
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Did the article not say Surplus vaccines, I thought that meant those we would not be using anyway.
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19/02/2021 10:09:06 29 32
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No doubt the short sighted 'us first' brigade will be jumping up and down preaching their divisive nationalist nonsense. The pandemic is a global challenge, everyone on the planet needs to be vaccinated if we are ALL to be safe.
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19/02/2021 10:20:39 12 1
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And yet some friends in Leicester were called in early for their vaccinations because the centre had a surplus due to some sections of the community refusing it.
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19/02/2021 10:10:44 11 23
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The UK economy is on its knees, the British public will be paying for this mess for decades and already our government is giving away vaccines.

I don't want to sound callous but for how long does the burden fall on the UK, where many people themselves are now seeing poverty first hand.

My only hope is that we protect the nation before 'exporting' surplus. We're still 3/4 short of the target.
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19/02/2021 10:20:40 6 3
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We've already paid for them. What should we do, pour them down the sink? ??
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19/02/2021 10:26:15 0 2
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We don't actually have them though. So there's nothing to pour down the sink. The problem is we've only give 1/4 the population, 1 of 2 doses that we don't have as surplus stock while being doing there's a strong chance booster doses may be needed come next winter.

In otherwords, the PM is once again offering a unicorn.
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19/02/2021 10:16:00 3 5
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Are the Russians giving away any of their Sputnik?
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19/02/2021 10:20:46 0 1
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Wouldn't you?
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19/02/2021 10:20:54 6 11
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Great - this shows what our great nation can do - when released from the dead hand of the EU overlords
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19/02/2021 10:23:05 7 6
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what a ridiculous statement
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19/02/2021 10:24:31 3 2
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You are like the "are we there yet" anoying child with your stupid eu nonsense
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19/02/2021 10:45:22 2 1
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What rubbish Grow up and say something useful Great disappeared a long time ago.
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CH
19/02/2021 10:56:04 2 1
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Did the EU have to wipe your backside for you? You seem to think they were in control of absolutely everything and guess what? You were wrong and still are.