Coronavirus: 'No jab, no job' policies may be legal for new staff
18/02/2021 | news | business | 3,406
It may be legal to insist on vaccinations in new staff contracts, the justice secretary says.
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18/02/2021 14:52:36 541 62
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As a surgeon I have to have a Hepatitis B vaccine proof before I am allowed to operate on any patient. Same goes to all those who work in medical care.

Why is this any different when at the end of the day it protects them and people they are likely to come in contact with?
Because not everyone has a profession of digging directly into people's bodies and hepatitis B is permanent whereas covid is effectively a glorified flu strain.... Removed
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18/02/2021 14:59:06 12 50
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Apologies I was factually inaccurate about hepatitis B, but the fact still remains that you can't just mandate something like this on people
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18/02/2021 14:59:58 103 12
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The entire scientific community, NHS and over 100,000 families in this country alone who will disagree with your assessment that covid is 'effectively a glorified flu strain'.
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18/02/2021 15:21:29 1 13
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Until I see wealthy people being forced out of the excessive number of homes and given to the needy, What vaccine? what pandemic? Dont know what you're on about, sounds like a consipracy theory, or worse, man-made in a lab. Not interested. Other problems are more important in my view.

Do I care what you or the media mouthpiecse say?

NO
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18/02/2021 15:23:38 17 0
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My Mum and 120,000 have died of this 'glorified flu strain' and the varients are still doing the rounds. You should volunteer your body to be infected to test vaccinations if your courages matches your foolhardiness.
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18/02/2021 15:23:49 8 0
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Ignorance personified.
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18/02/2021 15:36:01 11 0
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Think this through knucklehead! A "glorified strain" taking out over 100k lives! Honestly...............
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18/02/2021 15:40:18 4 0
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There are currently 119,000 former UK citizens who disagree.
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18/02/2021 15:45:15 4 0
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Said the person who didn't know what long covid is, or that Covid could spread without someone cutting into your body.
18/02/2021 15:51:43 5 2
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Only an imbecile thinks Covid is glorified flu.
18/02/2021 15:55:04 2 0
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Still after all this time some people just dont understand the issue with covid, its not the disease, it is the breakdown of society if you allowed it to spread freely - bring out your dead!
18/02/2021 16:04:29 1 1
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Flu is a killer. In the 1918 flu pandemic it was the younger folk who died. Personally I cannot ever remember having flu. Similar symptoms maybe, even ‘man’ flu but actual Flu I don’t think so. Please don’t spread this misleading opinion, some people believe it, to their detriment.
18/02/2021 16:04:54 2 0
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It's a simple health & safety question. If you are near colleagues or customers & you are still breathing then you should have the jab. This flu that has killed 120k people in the UK (albeit most with underlying health conditions) so it's slightly worse than seasonal flu. What is the problem or are you scared HMG & Facebook might track your movements & realise you never go anywhere or do anything.
18/02/2021 16:04:56 2 0
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No, it's not, unfortunately. And certainly I think that anybody working with people in any form should have the Covid jab AND the flu jab for their own safety as much as protecting their clientele.
18/02/2021 16:07:08 0 0
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You've caught something serious - the gullability virus perhaps.
18/02/2021 16:03:13 1 0
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It's been a year and some people are still completely ignorant as to what Covid-19 is? Beggars belief.
18/02/2021 16:12:02 1 0
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Flu is a form of Covid virus not Covid19 is a form of flu. But why let the facts get in the way of a deeply held view?
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18/02/2021 14:53:01 10 22
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We’ve seen restrictions on freedom of speech getting worse under the tories. There was a poll the other day saying 20% of people thought it was getting worse.

Now the Troy’s want to stop companies from employing who then want.

The overreach of this party into everyday life is absurd.

They can’t even protect our border!
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Boris has had his jab .......damn it . Removed
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18/02/2021 15:10:39 1 0
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Well he is in the obese, 50+, male, at risk tier.
I think it is only fair to those who fight this Chinese plaque and work in that environtment and get vaccinated should be first served in jobs and those corona rebels using an excuse just to defy the Tory Government should not get the priviliges and benefits should be halved instead. Why shall corona rebels be better off ??? Removed
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18/02/2021 15:06:10 3 5
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I hate people who hate anti-Vaccers
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18/02/2021 14:49:29 123 231
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how about people who cannot take the vaccine?

"Sorry you're job offer is withdrawn because of a medical condition which may prevent you taking the jab"

any such proposal to do this must be carefully balanced, and exceptions written in. Otherwise you will be discriminating against some, and action against you would be justified,
Until I see wealthy people being forced out of the excessive number of homes and given to the needy, What vaccine? what pandemic? Dont know what you're on about, sounds like a consipracy theory, or worse, man-made in a lab. Not interested. Other problems are more important in my view.

Do I care what you or the media mouthpiecse say?

NO
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it is a national disgrace that BAME health workers are refusing the vaccine and they should not be allowed to work with vulnerable patients in hospitals or care homes Removed
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18/02/2021 15:31:33 1 2
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If they infect you..sue them
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18/02/2021 15:32:23 0 0
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You gonna offer to do the job then? No? Yes?
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18/02/2021 15:00:32 16 165
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Well when discriminatory employers use 'no jab no job' to disproportionately target BAME applicants then yeah, you'll be seeing the link
They won't

They need BAME workers

Because they work

Which WB don't
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18/02/2021 15:24:36 1 4
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Just imagine the sorry state we would be in if most people opted for the selfish route of not having vaccine. What then eh? Carry on like this for the next 10 years and tell all those people who have made the vaccine possilbe that we thinks its crap and we don't want it. Just shut up and do the decent thing. Have the vaccine It's our only option.
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I’ve heard the jabs will be inserted into interviewees’ urethras. Removed
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18/02/2021 15:27:56 6 8
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Vaccine passport = Geunina pig passport

Please reopen gyms. I dont want this nonsense injected into me.

I am happy with my healthy lifestyle of exercising, eating healthy, vitamins, minerals and probiotics.

Have never felt better in my life, I can put a price on many of my possessions but not my health.

Wont be risking it for this nonsense

They are immune from legal action

Enough said!
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18/02/2021 14:52:09 532 86
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No, because you believe choices have consequences, and rightly so

Too bad many of the anti vax crowd think consequences and discrimination are the same thing
It is discrimination mo Ron Removed
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I used to work as a surgeon (now retired) and the hospital policy was pretty straight forward no Hepatitis B jab or mask, no job. Can't see the problem really
"I used to work as a surgeon"

So you're a sociopath then, no surprises there, this country practically grows them in factories called schools
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18/02/2021 16:02:26 16 0
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"So you're a sociopath then .." What a disgusting and insulting comment to make. I hardly need to say it, but surgeons save so many lives and perform incalculable good. Modern surgery is a miracle of medical science. But sure, cast your petty jibes at the "sociopaths"; I'm sure you'll never need them to save YOUR life...
Stop giving Pimlico Plumbers extra free publicity, especially as the owner has a history of being a criminally woeful boss, it stinks.

Check for yourself, it's all in the public domain??
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18/02/2021 15:50:18 7 2
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What's the connection between this company and the BBC?!?

I don’t know, but as they regularly use them as some sort of go-to rent a quote from an 'average' business, there must be one

Stop using them??
18/02/2021 15:50:53 1 0
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I couldn't find anything criminal.
18/02/2021 16:52:30 0 0
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he uses the right to freedom of speech just like well, the list is endless isn't it? and of course you don't have to work for him do you, or use his services.. but if he were the cheapest then you probably would money over morals maybe the order of the day
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18/02/2021 15:30:08 148 6
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I used to work in the 90's on overseas projects. We had to get jabs to keep the travel insurance valid. If you didn't do it , you were soon asked to leave.
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18/02/2021 16:09:33 5 1
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Covidiot alert.
18/02/2021 16:19:26 8 1
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In terms of numbers infected and consequent global impact - socially and economically, there's not many worse than what the whole world is going through now, and yet it's apparently not real enough for you. Wow!
18/02/2021 16:26:12 5 1
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Soon find out if it's real when only the conspiracists are left without protection. Natures way of dealing with problems that may affect the longer term survival of human race.
18/02/2021 16:43:57 2 0
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ask anyone who has had.. or the relative of someone who has died as a consequence ' if it's real' then step back immediately out of arms reach before you 'feel' the power of their response
oh we could wear a sticker maybe showing were unvaccinated, that way you can ridicule them /us in the street , or even camps and keep us there ....

Oh it’s all been done before already
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18/02/2021 15:43:36 0 4
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how dare you equate this with the holocaust
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18/02/2021 15:44:21 0 0
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Somewhere in Poland in the 1940's?
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18/02/2021 15:45:30 0 0
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And here we go again , these unfounded comparisons to the tragedy of the Holocaust are both predictable and saddening
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18/02/2021 15:47:06 0 0
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How dare you equate this to the holocaust, despicable person.
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18/02/2021 15:46:33 0 0
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A completely invalid, ridiculous and offensive comparison. Grow up.
18/02/2021 15:48:31 0 0
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Not sure I would have gone down that rabbit hole
18/02/2021 15:48:01 0 0
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Well said mate and it looks like you triggered a snowflake even better .
18/02/2021 15:55:44 0 0
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David Icke was right
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18/02/2021 15:39:34 2 2
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Instead of apologising for the kind of moron who thinks it's clever to refuse a vaccine without good reason, we need to think about their victims-- people infected by this stupidity.

I am bang alongside finding alternative provision for those who cannot be vaccinated, but if you choose to be an idiot you need to suffer the penalties, along with people who ignore 'danger cliff' signs.
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This reminds me of the Nazi human experimentation programme

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

Is our country just being turned into a massive petri dish full of Guinea pigs for injecting + experimentation?

https://www.vmicuk.com/vmic-facility
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What’s Harold shipman & covid got in common ?

They both only take the over 85’s ??????
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18/02/2021 15:59:23 1 0
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Pathetic ‘comment’
18/02/2021 15:54:44 6 5
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Why is is illegal to discriminate against:

age
gender reassignment
being married or in a civil partnership
being pregnant or on maternity leave
disability
race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin
religion or belief
sex
sexual orientation

(legally protected from discrimination by the Equality Act 2010)

but legal to discriminate against people who have not taken the vaccine?
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ALL THOSE extremists who are happy to deny others their livelihoods are the very ones who'll scream their heads off when employers are forced to seek migrant labour to do the jobs that others wont do!

Yes... there are consequences!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation#Experiments_on_twins

Immunization experiments

At the German concentration camps of Sachsenhausen, Dachau, Natzweiler, Buchenwald Neuengamme, scientists tested immunization compounds and serums for the prevention and treatment of contagious diseases, including malaria, typhus tuberculosis typhoid fever, yellow fever and infectious hepatitis
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18/02/2021 16:03:22 0 0
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So what
18/02/2021 16:04:59 0 0
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Soooo no theoretical job for you then.
18/02/2021 16:04:02 0 0
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Not sure what that has to do with the current situation.
Let the anti vaxxers and pretentious do gooders with their nonsensical "its my human right not to be vaccinated' actually catch covid and see how they feel if they become seriously unwell..like the idiot on Jeremy Vine show this morning .. Removed
18/02/2021 16:13:20 0 0
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Jeremy Vine show that says enough for me
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18/02/2021 16:02:00 4 2
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Anti-Vaxxers seem to be;
fake news junkies; righteously indignant for the sake of it; already susceptible to ignoring medical advice on FGM, marrying 1st cousins, voodoo and other lovely "traditions", BAME; conspiracy theorists.
Just saying (before this gets taken down by the BBC)
Hey, if you have morons trolling Captain Tom this is just a fodder for this lot... Removed
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18/02/2021 15:59:00 43 11
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I began work as a lab technician in a hospital microbiology lab in 1968. I had many different vaccines and boosters during the next 8 years of working there. 53 years later I am fit and healthy and have just had my first Covid 19 vaccination. The anti-vaxers are dangerous idiots.
Liz, have you done anything in your life that has made you a "dangerous idiot"? People in glass houses, etc. Removed
Those who refuse a vaccine should be put to death. End of story. Removed
18/02/2021 16:16:17 0 0
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radical
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People seem to totally miss the point, they have said it doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it, it only relieves your symptoms.
So therefore a vaccinated person is just as dangerous and can still spread it as much as an unvaccinated person.
So there is no need for vaccination certificates, all they do is prove that you are less likely to be ill, not infect anybody else.
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18/02/2021 16:27:20 0 0
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"they have said it doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it, it only relieves your symptoms."
Not true. They are expecting it to reduce spread, but it is too early to say by how much.
18/02/2021 16:28:24 0 0
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First sentence is mostly correct - after that it's total garbage I'm afraid.

It's PROVEN that vaccination massively reduced infections in a community - ergo it MUST reduce the infectiousness of those vaccinated either by stopping them getting the virus period, or by making them less infectious if they do contract it.
I won’t be taking any “vaccine” that is really a gene therapy, it’s not a vaccine. Is there a correlation between the mRNA injection and the specific mention of gene therapy mentioned in the government white paper on the .gov website called Regulation for the Fourth Industrial Revolution? I am not anti vaccine but I am not convinced that these injections are safe and more time is required studying Removed
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Well said??
18/02/2021 16:45:07 0 0
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Why don't you think they're safe? They aren't "gene therapy".
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18/02/2021 17:01:27 0 0
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The mRNA is not gene therapy. It doesn't change the genetic information of a cell.
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"No jab, no benefits" would be more effective.
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First oldies voted Brexit and cut youngsters off the wider world.
Then oldies had to be protected from Covid so youngsters were locked up in their rooms. No education, no sex, no travel, no socialising, no nothing.
Finally, oldies had to receive the vaccine first, so "no jab no job" for youngsters
Where is f-ing social justice in that
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18/02/2021 16:31:39 1 2
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You've been shafted mate - tuition, education, housing, pension.....
I'm old and I don't understand why there are no mass demonstrations by the younger people.
18/02/2021 16:35:32 0 1
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I blame the circumstances of your upbringing.

Someone told you life was fair, and you believed them. Life isn't fair, and it never will be. Give up on the demanding that you be entitled to everything everyone else has without having to get/provide it for yourself, and you'll thrive. Keep demanding 'social justice' and you won't. It really is that simple.
18/02/2021 16:45:40 0 0
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18/02/2021 16:54:16 0 0
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That's like asking where the social justice is in having speed limits when it is 20 year old males that tend to crash at speed, while the elderly have a reputation for driving extremely slowly.

It's about managing overall risk. That's not a social injustice.
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18/02/2021 16:30:01 4 5
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Shut up fool
18/02/2021 16:30:48 2 1
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Try some details like how many? What percentage? ??
18/02/2021 16:31:15 3 1
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Yes but their symptoms will have been dramatically reduced on what they would have been without it.
The vaccine does not stop anyone getting the virus.
18/02/2021 16:31:43 2 1
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For that statement to be of any use to anyone you need numbers and percentages.
18/02/2021 16:32:47 1 1
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I think you made that one up. There are only a handful of people who have had a second jab.
18/02/2021 16:33:35 2 0
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As would be expected, as no vaccination is 100% effective.
18/02/2021 16:36:45 2 0
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While less likely, this is to be expected.

Now, are those same people still being hospitalised, admitted to intensive care or dying? Because if not then the vaccine is doing its job.

My guess though is that you are trolling and using an ignorant appreciation of what the vaccine does to further a silly anti-vax agenda.
18/02/2021 16:45:17 1 0
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What part of 60 - 95% effective do you not understand?
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18/02/2021 16:51:53 0 0
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Yes. That's what the test data showed when it said vaccines were, for example, 90% to 95% effective after 2 doses. Some people will still catch it. But given the same level of exposure, their odds of catching it are slashed about 10-20 fold. And as more people get vaccinated, the level of exposure that the average person faces will drop too.
Not got blonde hair, blue eyes....no job??

Has distinct nazi overtones this!
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18/02/2021 16:34:13 4 2
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shame there isn't a vaccine to stop comments like this
18/02/2021 16:41:51 1 0
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Tut Tut.
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18/02/2021 16:45:48 0 0
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What a stupid analogy. One is around people choosing to behave in a way that puts others at risk and increases the cost to the taxpayer. The other is around how you are born.
Wow, so many sheeple have bought into the propaganda and fear-mongering.
If you think an ineffective vaccine for a non-lethal condition is going to keep the evil spirits away then take it and be happy... if it’s so great then why do you need worry about those that don’t want it? After all, you’re protected, aren’t you?
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Yet another "fact free" anti vaxxer rant! Really???
18/02/2021 16:35:59 2 0
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"why do you need worry about those that don’t want it?"

Those that refuse to take the vaccine reduce the herd immunity effect resulting greater likelihood of clusters of outbreak resulting in those generally more elderly with less effective immune response to the vaccine being put at risk of illness and death as a result.
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18/02/2021 16:37:57 2 0
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1. Covid is lethal. Over 1m have died from it. The US alone is closing in on 500k.
2. The vaccines are give significant, but not absolute, protection to vaccinated individuals. The rest of the protection comes from enough people being vaccinated.
3. Those who are able to evaluate data to reach decisions are not "sheeple". Those who believe whatever someone throws out onto social media are.
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I think you will find that is incorrect. The European Court of Human rights is where cases are heard regarding breaches of the European Convention on Human Rights which is a separate treaty to the EU membership and is incorporated in to UK law in the Human Rights Act - become worried if UK Gov starts wanting to change or repeal it
The 'vaccines' don't even work but now you have to be jabbed in the arm just to get a job???? ProjectFear ramping up OperationTerror still further and refusing to relinquish control. What's their next move, 15 year prison sentences for 'vaccine' refusers? For all those 'Vaccine' lovers complaining, as long as you get your 'vaccine' what are you worried about if you're that convinced they work Removed
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It`s how their `mind` works....
The logic..."Well....if I grow two heads and my arms fall off....at least everyone elses will too!"
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No jab, no job, no free NHS, no global travel, no access. Get a jab. Its not about you.
So if I won't cower before your belief that I'm only entitled to life, if I live it according to your desire to inject chemicals into me, then you'll redefine me as a sub-human who isn't going to be treated equal to you.

Have you got a nice looking black uniform designed by Hugo Boss, with a shiny peak on your cap, topped off with a skull and bones cap badge?
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I think you made that one up. There are only a handful of people who have had a second jab.
There are over half a million, and I personally know of two staff in a BUPA care home in Cambridgeshire that have caught covid after the second dose and one that caught it three weeks after the first dose. Removed
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No Jab, no job.
Where do you stop?

Too fat, no job?
Smoker, no job?
Like a drink, no job?
They've no intention of stopping. Just wait until they get to 'skin to white - no oxygen'. That's their eventual aim. Removed
Such is the severity of this illness.
Threatened with fines of you don't wear a muzzle.
We're all pleading with them FFS open the hospitality sector.

Now they have to use threats to make us take a vaccine!

In football terms...they lost the dressing room about 9 months ago!
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I find it disgusting and disturbing to see so many Britons advocating up here for literal enforced medical treatment and human rights crimes against their fellow citizens, or a reduction in life status to "sub-human" if they refuse that treatment.

How are the British people any different to the Nazis of 1930s Germany? Cause you all look and sound just like them to me.
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Hear hear, well said.
According to current research it is still unclear whether the jab will prevent a person contracting and transmitting the virus. So this policy is simply discriminating the choice of employment based on a persons medical condition. So would it be legal to deny employment based on other medical conditions such as whether they smoke, are obese etc? This is an unacceptable form of discrimination. Removed
18/02/2021 16:54:25 1 0
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The researchers found that the vaccine cut the number of cases with detectable virus by 67% after a single standard dose, and wrote that this shows "the potential for a substantial reduction in transmission".
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18/02/2021 16:55:03 0 0
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No, it wouldn't. Each of the companies quoted explicitly mention "medical grounds" as a reason for exclusion because obviously that would be unfair discrimination.
18/02/2021 16:55:23 0 0
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Smoking isn't a medical condition so no.
18/02/2021 16:55:26 0 0
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People with medical conditions will be excluded. First read, then publish your ssit.

And stop hiding under ssit like "...still unclear whether the jab will prevent a person contracting and transmitting the virus"; it will not make it worse.
18/02/2021 16:55:39 1 0
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Current research has found that the vaccines are 90 to 95% effective in preventing people catching the virus.
18/02/2021 16:59:01 0 0
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It is unclear what jab you are referring to. What is not unclear. Go to and read the info on the Pfizer site. You can still contract and pass it on. The Pfizer jab is a therapeutic, reducing symptoms only.
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There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding what the vaccine does - a lot of the mandated vaccine crowd must assume it prevents transmission, that's the only reason I can see for their selfishness to take away my right to choose.
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Well I do hope for all of us lucky enough to be able to work from home, that our employers only allow us back into office once we have had vaccine. Seems a very simple and logical choice to allow offices toi reopen.
Why are you having a vaccine if it won't grant you immunity?
Why if you've had a vaccine that grants you immunity are you worried about exposure to that against which you have immunity?

And that's the point isn't. None of you care about the pathogen. This is about nothing more than your desire to see other humans subjugated, and forced into something they don't want.
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They are Quislings and will follow bj to The Hague in due course
This is the exact reason why we are all wearing masks.
The gullible swallow the garbage and start screaming.
People need to research and stop lapping up ambiguity.
If you are vaccinated then you are immunised as best you can be from the symptoms. You can still get the virus.
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The researchers found that the vaccine cut the number of cases with detectable virus by 67% after a single standard dose, and wrote that this shows "the potential for a substantial reduction in transmission".
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You 90 to 95% protected from catching the virus all research confirms this.
Wow, look at the blind fools boosting about being poisoned! Removed
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Lol you’re the blind one to scientific break throughs !!.
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You can still catch and spread the virus when vaccinated.
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Nutter - go and get some more fill of sinister manipulators on You Tube. PS I assume that's where you got your 'evidence' from?
Agree, it should be mandatory...Already the BAME community are not getting vaccinated this will have huge repercussions for us all. They need to be forced to comply... Removed
18/02/2021 17:02:14 2 1
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'forced'??? How re comments like this being allowed to be posted and not removed?
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Now repeat after me "at least we are free" ??
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You can still catch and spread the virus when vaccinated.
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You are reported for a Hate Crime, err not just to HYS !!!! .......
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that's not racist at all.
18/02/2021 17:11:04 1 0
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I don't think anyone's mentioned "forced vaccinations" - so why are you?
18/02/2021 17:12:20 1 0
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You would have fitted right in in1930's Germany!
18/02/2021 16:56:56 1 1
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You 90 to 95% protected from catching the virus all research confirms this.
When it comes to COVID-19, researchers have been primarily focused on the vaccines' protective efficacy — how well they protect people from falling ill. In clinical trials, the Pfizer vaccine was found to be 95 per cent effective at reducing disease.4 Feb 2021 Removed
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Anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, conspiracy theory peddlars are all, deep down, saying "I've failed to achieve any kind of significancy, but pay attention to me anyway ... "
Whereas Pro-vaxxers are deep down saying... I've failed to amount to anything of signifigance, but now is my chance to go full human rights abusing totalitarian, "everyone must be subjugated before my fear by law". Removed
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You can see the anti-vaxxers will be desperate to make a huge fuss about this. One of them will be a martyr for their idea of individual freedoms.
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"Taking a vaccine is not mandatory and it would be discriminatory to force somebody to take one."
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18/02/2021 16:56:50 7 1
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Its the employer's prerogative as far as I'm concerned. They will be the ones losing man hours when it all goes belly up with sick employees.
What employees? They won't have any employees once they make it clear that they consider their employees bodies theirs to chemically abuse at will. Removed
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18/02/2021 15:29:29 31 6
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if everyone has the jab then transmission becomes largely irrelevant.
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18/02/2021 17:00:03 8 6
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It's simple. Every interviewer should ask prospective candidates if they've had the jab.

If they haven't a good reason for not having the jab then don't employ them as they're obviously complete idiots.

If you do decide to recruit an anti-vaxxer be prepared for years of 'I'm not doing that and I'm not doing this' and general militant behaviour because they're 'special'.
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I objected to this clearly discriminatory policy towards young people of working age and received a torrent of homophobic abuse from the Silver Surfers who are out in force here today (most of them are Surgeons, apparently) Removed
18/02/2021 17:06:49 1 0
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Where is the homophobic abuse?
18/02/2021 17:08:13 0 0
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How on earth would said silver surfers have any knowledge of your sexuality?
18/02/2021 17:11:29 1 0
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When you are looking after others, vaccination should be mandatory. They call it responsibility, not discrimination. Homophobic abuse? Oh dear.
People going: "Yeah, this will shut up the anti-vaccination lot"
Any hint that this vaccine is mandatory and restrictions are brought in only feeds the conspiracy theories.
If you have the vaccine, in theory you are protected. So it should be irrelevant what other people choose to do. If you can still catch it, the vaccine doesn't work.
They still have no idea how vaccines affect the transmission.
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18/02/2021 17:12:31 0 0
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Wrong on every count.
18/02/2021 17:00:48 1 2
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Clear evidence on this link that Europeans are turning their backs on the Oxford vaccine.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/astrazeneca-vaccine-unpopular-europe-amid-172325544.html

Is this vaccine racism in Europe or is it because the efficacy is largely unproven? Especially against most recent variants.

And people want vaccine passports etc ??????????????

Not the brightest are they.
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@MarkyH

"Agree, it should be mandatory...Already the BAME community are not getting vaccinated this will have huge repercussions for us all. They need to be forced to comply... "

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From the BBC bitesize website:

"The Nazis crushed opposition through legal moves, fear and intimidation. Propaganda and social control kept the population in line."

We must not start repeating evil history.
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Those who refuse a vaccine should be put to death. End of story. Removed
18/02/2021 17:10:51 0 0
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And here we have an Anti-vaxxer pretending to be some extremeist "pro-vaxxer" or whatever.
18/02/2021 17:11:02 1 0
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pretty sure that comment gives me reasonable grounds to defend myself should you set foot in my post code.
18/02/2021 17:11:37 1 0
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and the BBC allowed this to be posted? REALLY?????
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Legx - Hep B legalised properly tested over 10 to 15 years approved vaccine, no problem. Covid gene therapy new unknown long term side effects, patented under "gene therapy" being told to public vaccine. Lots of problems. Removed
18/02/2021 17:20:10 0 0
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Its comments like these that are holding back this programme so irresponsible hope it gets removed ASAP.
This is a free country right? So I should be allowed to go out and kill anti-vaxxers right?

It would be discriminatory to prosecute me for this.

If that sounds stupid to you, well that's how the equivalent anti-vax moaning sounds to normal people.
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18/02/2021 17:14:27 3 0
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How does someone infectious with COVID kill someone who has been vaccinated, and so is immune from COVID?

Or are you saying, the vaccine doesn't work?
18/02/2021 17:17:21 0 0
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Not really the same is it. Once all the people who want the vaccine have had it. Who's left for the anti vaxxers to spread it to? The anti vaxxers, who have already said they are happy to take the risk.
18/02/2021 17:17:48 0 0
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but it's not a free country is it, not anymore
18/02/2021 17:18:47 0 0
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Anti-vaxxer pretending to be extreme "pro-vaxxer"
18/02/2021 17:31:26 1 0
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Currently murder is illegal. It is also illegal to force people to undergo medical procedures. I think both these laws are broadly sensible, though I would of course encourage everyone to get vaccinated. The problem is, once you establish the principle that it's okay for the state to force you to do one thing, they might just come up with some other ideas. A life without freedoms is no life.
So to be clear, all those up here spewing forth hate against those who don't want a vaccination are actually admitting the vaccine doesn't work.

Because even after having it, they won't be immune, so must still fear COVID.
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18/02/2021 17:15:57 1 3
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Utter drivel the best chance or driving this down IS by vaccines
18/02/2021 17:17:44 1 0
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Oxford vaccine findings; The researchers found that the vaccine cut the number of cases with detectable virus by 67% after a single standard dose, and wrote that this shows "the potential for a substantial reduction in transmission".
18/02/2021 17:09:38 2 3
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Anti-vaxxers, 5Gers, climate science deniers and Brexiters, lend me your ears!

It's past time you started listening to the experts.
Like who Cummings and Whitty. Idiot Removed
18/02/2021 17:00:03 8 6
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It's simple. Every interviewer should ask prospective candidates if they've had the jab.

If they haven't a good reason for not having the jab then don't employ them as they're obviously complete idiots.

If you do decide to recruit an anti-vaxxer be prepared for years of 'I'm not doing that and I'm not doing this' and general militant behaviour because they're 'special'.
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In 6 months you will all be having another vaccine and so on and so on etc.

Good luck to the brainwashed one eyed people who will adopt that approach.

Try doing some proper research and look at why people object before calling them names.
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18/02/2021 17:23:18 0 0
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None of you are TELLING us why you object other than stupid arguments that don't make sense.

There is nothing factual I have found which takes away from the effectiveness of the vaccine
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18/02/2021 17:18:35 0 0
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A high street plumber is hardly, mad, evil or in Government....
18/02/2021 17:21:09 1 0
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Don't forget the collaborators in the populace
SO WRONG AND UNFAIR !,! ITS JUST THE START !!.

NEXT GOVERNMENTS ALL OTNER WORLD WILL ASK FOR ID WHEN TRAVELLING THERE !,.

CAT HIRE FIRMS WILL ASK FOR PROOF OF A DRIVING LICENSES !!.
AND AIRPLANE PILOTS WILL DRUG TESTED !,!.
where will it end ? ????????????
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18/02/2021 17:17:37 1 0
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I certainly don't want to hire a cat
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18/02/2021 15:21:51 2 17
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Until I see wealthy people being forced out of the excessive number of homes and given to the needy, What vaccine? what pandemic? Dont know what you're on about, sounds like a consipracy theory, or worse, man-made in a lab. Not interested. Other problems are more important in my view.

Do I care what you or the media mouthpiecse say?

NO
Why have you copied & pasted this arrant nonsense all over HYS today?

How old are you - 13?
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So, to the legions of posters with medical backgrounds that seem to think 'no jab/no job' is acceptable in a civilized society, I would suggest they consider how forcing healthy people to have what, for most, is a completely unnecessary procedure fits with medical ethics? Removed
18/02/2021 17:21:34 1 0
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The part where they try and keep as many people alive as possible.
18/02/2021 17:15:20 3 2
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Watch out for the anti-vaxxers with the non existent education and lashings of Dunning Kruger effect.

'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'
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18/02/2021 15:29:56 20 37
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I bet you hide under the stairs when it thunders
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I suggest that people remind themselves of the Nuremberg Trials as well as the resulting Nuremberg Code.
People should then remember that these "vaccines" have not followed the protocols necessary and can therefore still be deemed as experimental. Therefore all people have the right under the Nuremberg Code to refuse to participate without prejudice.
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FFS it is not a vaccine. It was patented as "gene therapy" is was emergency authorised because of the emergency coronavirus act. The long term effects are totally unknown. I have read many scientific studies on ncbi pubmed, it was not good when the primates lungs were cut open, the treated ones had scaring and pus, the non treated ones the macrophages you have two types right.... type 1 gobble Removed
18/02/2021 17:06:43 2 5
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It's no surprise to see the Anti Vaxxer crowd losing their marbles over this one. Many jobs already require blood & saliva samples etc. Suck it up #KBF clowns.
Type 1 gobble up and eat the virus this causes inflammation like when you cut your self. Then Type 2 microphage (Tcell) go okay job done, Type 1 off the scene we will come in Type 2 and clean up and quell inflammation. Well the gene therapy inactivated the Type two (tcell) when the primates were exposed to wild virus after treatment they were the most damaged. The non treated were fine, but Removed
@Squire
'In 6 months you will all be having another vaccine and so on and so on etc.
Good luck to the brainwashed one eyed people who will adopt that approach.
Try doing some proper research and look at why people object before calling them names.'
Like doing your vaccine research on youtube channels like Del Bigtree's? The guy has a degree in media studies, but the gullible believe his nonsense.
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Tories just started review of UK human rights law

So expect more of this kind of thing
It will be the poor that pay for BREXIT
The Eton club will make the money ??
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18/02/2021 17:30:55 0 0
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From what I'm reading on this topic, Tories are taking a hands off position and leaving it up to foreign governments to lay the law down on who can visit/holiday in their country.
18/02/2021 17:05:34 4 3
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This seems to have really triggered the anti-vaxers and conspiracy theorists.

The thing is, you were up against it already because employers will increase the checking of social media accounts to weed out the fruitcakes exposed by the pandemic. This will just make it more efficient.
but obvously killed to cut open the lung and see what happened. They call it scarificed in studies. The studies conclusion was, to proceed to human trials would be considered dangerous and to be done very carefully. That is why they are doing it on kids more chance of them surving ... loads of studies on ncbi Removed
Human trials have only just started on the vaccine.

Can anyone guarantee that fertility will not be affected by this?

At this stage NO they can't.

Simply no proof either way to draw a conclusion.

That is not misinformation - that is a fact!

Note when asked the reply is - 'We have not found any evidence that it does affect fertility'
Also can be said to the contrary

Depends what you swallow
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18/02/2021 17:33:40 0 0
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If you had caught this or knew someone it has killed I think your response would be diffent.
If vaccinations were 100% effective and provided immunity for life, there might be some point to this.
In reality, vaccines don't generate antibodies in one third of recipients and immunity only lasts 4-5 months - against the original strains not the mutations.
So coercion, discrimination and dubious legality for little benefit.
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18/02/2021 17:30:08 1 0
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Says John. That well known world renowned virologist who sits on Sage and has dedicated his life to science. I don’t think so. Jog on.
18/02/2021 17:35:10 1 0
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Sensible and coherent. Nice to see there are some brains and not diarrhoea.
Those who refuse a vaccine should be put to death. End of story. Removed
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The Rna products are not vaccines. They are trial stage three gene therapy. Removed
18/02/2021 17:30:50 0 1
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Thankyou for trying to inform the Zealots.
18/02/2021 17:32:18 0 0
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mRNA products are not gene therapies.
One works on RNA, the other works on DNA.
Both are forms of nucleic acid therapy.
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18/02/2021 17:26:32 3 0
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I will never use this plumbing service.
Good for you, say that when your non vaccinated plumber gives you c19.
M#ron.
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18/02/2021 17:58:08 0 0
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Already had Covid. Because I chose to use a competitor, I’m a moron? If you’re going to hurl insults, at least spell it correctly.
The Pro group with no choice you are a disgrace, learn your history, you are the modern Nazi there must be choice. There are laws, international laws. You are not above the law, you wait until Hannock et al are in jail. Crimes against humanity. Removed
18/02/2021 17:37:45 1 1
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So choose to drive without a license and see how much sympathy you get.
D#dickhead. Removed
18/02/2021 17:28:40 3 2
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I have to travel for my job so already have to face this issue, had my first jab yesterday, no brainer.
No brainer ....... or just no brain?? Removed
18/02/2021 17:28:40 3 2
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I have to travel for my job so already have to face this issue, had my first jab yesterday, no brainer.
Yes you would certainly have to lack a brain to be favour of such a policy. Removed
18/02/2021 17:26:47 2 2
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Ah well, Anti-vaxxers can stay in the forums online, good luck trying to make your beliefs stick in the real world.

I'll take the theoretical job and be glad that I know my workmates will have had the jab as well.

My wife is Immunocompromised, so don't take it too personally when I say all Anti-vaxxers are scum.
I don't take it personally, and I hope you wont take it personally when I say I hold exactly the same opinion of you and all those who advocate for enforced medication of people who don't consent to chemicals being injected into them. You're perfectly entitled to advocate for human rights abuse, and I'm just as entitled to consider you scum for having that position. Removed
When are they going to experiment and trial this vaccine on humans?

Sorry - they already are - 15m of them!
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18/02/2021 17:50:10 0 0
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so far so good
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My wife is Immunocompromised, so don't take it too personally when I say all Anti-vaxxers are scum.

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If your wife is immunocompromised be very very careful what vaccine she has now and in the future.
Oxford vaccine is a live vaccine and could cause much damage, actually kill immunocompromised people. They do a reduced dose which should be more effective and is available.
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18/02/2021 17:39:42 1 2
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Already done the research and had friends who have already taken it.

Unlike you useless conspiracists i can actually be bothered.
By the way once you have had the Pfizer jab your immune system literally collapses for about a week. This is why Pfizer does not recommend immune compromised people take it. Removed
18/02/2021 17:41:11 0 0
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You have the clinical stats to back up your argument?
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18/02/2021 15:22:43 4 10
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Until I see wealthy people being forced out of the excessive number of homes and given to the needy, What vaccine? what pandemic? Dont know what you're on about, sounds like a consipracy theory, or worse, man-made in a lab. Not interested. Other problems are more important in my view.

Do I care what you or the media mouthpiecse say?

NO
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The Pro group with no choice you are a disgrace, learn your history, you are the modern Nazi there must be choice. There are laws, international laws. You are not above the law, you wait until Hannock et al are in jail. Crimes against humanity. Removed
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Has proven the vaccine is useless if all the employees have had the vaccine and you haven't what danger are you to them think about it Removed
18/02/2021 17:44:30 2 0
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One would be a danger to other unvaccinated people and those who are extremely vulnerable with or without a vaccine.
It is also a good PR for employers with such policies - they show that they care about the safety of their customers.
Would anyone want to have a parent in a care home where no staff have been vaccinated and they roam from home to home doing their work, whilst mixing outside work?
18/02/2021 17:47:14 0 0
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Do you want to try that again in English?
@Zita
'By the way once you have had the Pfizer jab your immune system literally collapses for about a week. This is why Pfizer does not recommend immune compromised people take it.'

Immune compromised people are advised not to take any vaccine. Stop taking you FB feed as truth.
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18/02/2021 17:30:12 8 2
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The frightening thing is that the Covid Doomers are fast becoming a cult. The stats and figures could show that no one is getting infected, the ‘R’ number could be minus eleventy-twelve, but there will be vigilantes attacking people they suspect not to have been vaccinated. It’s turned into tribal herd mentality - you’re not one of us, therefore you must be removed...
Cultural Marxism, Endless gov't - endless ministries, programs, printing of money.
And now the rest of society destroyed on the pretext of a deadly "man-flu" and now not having the jab, clapped on by covidnazis amongst the dumbed down public.
Wait for the C19 vaccine Passports, A star on your coat or a tattoo on the arm and as a final solution to the Unvaccinated, free waterless showers!!!!
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The Pro group with no choice is the same thing of nazi-fascist scum. Removed
18/02/2021 17:47:09 3 1
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Everybody has the choice to say no just like you do with a drivers license, just expect that you may face restrictions like you do with or without a drivers license.
18/02/2021 16:34:18 0 3
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It's nor really serious though is it Clive, it's a glorified flu. Most of the time you don't even know you've got it unless a dodgy 'test' tells you you have.
There's 117,000 dead & several times more suffering long term health issues from being infected who would doubtless like to tell you you are talking out of your fundament. Removed
18/02/2021 17:37:59 1 2
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Exactly. Im not an anti vaxxer. Ive had all my other jabs. Im not a conspiracist either. The earth isnt flat. lizard people dont run the world. I had covid end of last year. The kids brought it home from school, I wasnt been daft and caught it. It hardly affected me though, I was just tired. I didnt miss any work. So to me the vaccine isnt necessary.
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18/02/2021 17:53:37 1 0
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Individuals like you are what is going wrong with society. Not people worried about a new vaccine - yes, I too think they're wrong, but people like you are simply awful. Just to remind you and prevent you bursting a vessel - I'm having the jab, thumbs up.
18/02/2021 17:44:55 1 3
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Good, if this country needs anything it's people beginning to have to take responsibility for their actions. Next step is to allow companies to fire, or prioritise during redundancy people who voted for Brexit - people need to understand that actions have consequences and if you voted for Brexit and your employer has to make redundancies as a result, you should be first to go because you wanted it
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jobs are so scarce now that employers can demand anything
say you penis has to be of a certain girth or whatever
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I should be OK then.
Ivor Biggun
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I know nurses in respiratory wards (not covid wards) have refused the vaccine and are still permitted to work and potentially infect covid free high risk patients. The NHS is allowing this Removed
18/02/2021 17:49:17 0 0
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Yeah right Next
@Zita
'By the way once you have had the Pfizer jab your immune system literally collapses for about a week. This is why Pfizer does not recommend immune compromised people take it.'

Immune compromised people are advised not to take any vaccine. Stop taking you FB feed as truth.
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Bumbler Jabs need a functioning immune system to be effective. Doh! Ignorance astounding Removed
jobs are so scarce now that employers can demand anything
say you penis has to be of a certain girth or whatever
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I should be OK then.
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Pro vaxs are like those black shirt nazis. Removed
18/02/2021 17:58:17 0 0
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Heil Attenborough!
Yep, gonna exterminate all the anti-vaxxers or whatever
18/02/2021 17:50:50 1 3
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Like what? I don't question medical authorities without reason, that would be STUPID.
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18/02/2021 17:44:55 1 3
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Good, if this country needs anything it's people beginning to have to take responsibility for their actions. Next step is to allow companies to fire, or prioritise during redundancy people who voted for Brexit - people need to understand that actions have consequences and if you voted for Brexit and your employer has to make redundancies as a result, you should be first to go because you wanted it
What a total W ?? you must be. Removed
Good luck with your future immune diseases jabbers. But do not worry Pharma will have another jab lined up to treat your symptoms. Removed
18/02/2021 18:05:11 3 0
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Keep on doing your 'research' on youtube, you should buy a faraday cage for your router, it'll stop the harmful rays getting to your brain.
18/02/2021 18:08:25 1 0
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I don't think any jab will help you.

Therapy maybe
The people who refuse should be taken and shot. An Covid passport and micro chip in your hand should be implanted after you had the jab. Removed
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18/02/2021 18:05:45 0 1
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Thanks edward, but no.

Pretty certain most of us would simply like the antivaxxers to know they'll be shooting themselves in the foot without our help.
The people who refuse should be taken and shot. An Covid passport and micro chip in your hand should be implanted after you had the jab. Removed
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18/02/2021 17:24:12 3 5
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Let the anti-vaxxers live in their muddled world but let us all know by making them wear a distinctive form of identification so those who live in the real world have the choice to avoid them and keep our children safe from theirs. Harsh, yes, fair, yes. Why should my loved ones have to accept risk to their human rights, whilst those putting them at risk have their human rights guaranteed?
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I am not anti vax at all, but these CV19 jabs are unnecessary, have not completed testing & have questionable value. CV19 is of such low risk, the gvmnt has now changed the rules to include any death within 60 days of a +ve CV test as a CV death just to keep the panic going.

We all need to stand up against the continued repression, pointless soc dist & masking. Demand a rtn to normal today!
I'm not an [idiot] but... Removed
18/02/2021 18:00:53 4 5
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This HYS shows exactly why the use your own common sense crowd are so wrong, just look at the common sense coming from the anti vax lunatics, but you have to feel sorry for them they are suffering from a more extreme case of gullibility than Breixters; although slightly less than flat earthers.
Look at actual data not MSM propaganda. There is no health crisis, rather an underfunded NHS, with 1000's of staff unnecesarily isolating is overloaded by an illness worse than an average flu season but similar to a bad flu year. No vax is needed. Removed
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I am not anti vax at all, but these CV19 jabs are unnecessary, have not completed testing & have questionable value. CV19 is of such low risk, the gvmnt has now changed the rules to include any death within 60 days of a +ve CV test as a CV death just to keep the panic going.

We all need to stand up against the continued repression, pointless soc dist & masking. Demand a rtn to normal today!
I'm not anti-Semitic but... Removed
18/02/2021 18:23:07 1 1
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Maybe not, but you sound like a jumped up W ?? and an ignorant ??
18/02/2021 18:08:33 5 7
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Can we now have a database listing the names and addresses of all who have refused the jab. That would make me feel safer
How about a star on their coat or a tattoo on the arm, maybe a "re-education camp" for them. Lets create an underclass of humans and treat them like pure scum criminals..........their crime............Not having an experimental vaccine!!!! Welcome to the New fatherland UK Removed
Apologies, to all those who "aren't racist but.."
Sorry I mean "Aren't islamophobic but.."
Sorry I mean "Aren't Anti-vaxxers but..."

Yes you are, Your concerns are EASILY addressed by asking a doctor.

Therefore *inhales* ANYONE who refuses the vaccine because of "concerns" they can't be asked to get answered is just as bad as a conspiracy theorist.

I.E....SCUM.
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18/02/2021 18:20:00 2 1
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You need a different type of medication. I suggest Thorazine to calm you down.
18/02/2021 18:16:09 1 4
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If you're not identified as someone who would have possibly have an adverse side affects, then I think all vaccinations should be written into contracts
18/02/2021 18:08:33 5 7
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Can we now have a database listing the names and addresses of all who have refused the jab. That would make me feel safer
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18/02/2021 19:00:32 5 2
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Get your own vaccine and learn to be more tolerant of others.
Why do people who fail to share your views upset you so much?
Control freak?
18/02/2021 18:39:15 11 8
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i guess i will be signing on then, fantastic, i can retire early, no vaccine is going into my body, end of..my immune system is healthy, its called looking after yourself
18/02/2021 18:50:36 5 3
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@Zita
'You belong in the past. Around the early 1940s in that country east of France.'

You belong in terrorist deprogramming given how anti vaxers on youtube have groomed you in the same manner ISIS uses.
18/02/2021 18:50:32 4 4
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The antivaxxers should be taken to the vet and treated, just like you would a dog that doesn't know better.

I mean vaccinated by the way, not the other thing.
18/02/2021 18:47:52 2 8
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The Government has been far too soft for too. Its time to crackdown and get hard. NO JAB-NO BENFITS OR WORK SIMPLE
18/02/2021 18:45:33 3 9
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I agree, vaccine or fined. It's common sense. It's only the attention seeking, slightly mad person who wouldn't want a jab.
18/02/2021 18:44:20 6 9
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No pension or Benefits for you then.
18/02/2021 18:42:42 1 6
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Not if you Micro chip everybody.
18/02/2021 18:39:51 5 11
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hilarious we have 120,000 dead and people still refuse to the jab. Sorry no Jab- No work, No entry into any premises
18/02/2021 20:04:50 8 4
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seems the bbc won't allow a statement of fact that there is no long term ie 10 year record of safety for these vaxes and humans are known to make stuff that later turns out to be harmful like adding lead to petrol. if you are old, fat or have other conditions it may be riskier to contract the china virus but if u r young an have no health defects the vax risk may be larger - must be free choice
@OwnMind
'Are you sitting there waiting to trash anything you don't want people to pay attention to?'

Only the rantings of anti vax lunatics who obviously failed GCSE science. I suggest you get a faraday cage to stop the sickness the radiation from your wifi before your mental health degrades much more.
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18/02/2021 21:57:12 2 0
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People who spread unfounded rumours about these vaccines deserve condemnation.
But people who simply decide for any number of reasons not to be vaccinated themselves do not.
Nor do they deserve to lose their jobs.
Diferentiate between the two.
18/02/2021 21:58:04 0 0
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Typical. If you can not come up with an intelligent response then, similar to others on here, slander the person. Very mature. I bet you were great fun in the school playground. You are the only one ranting and I am not intimidated by you.
18/02/2021 21:36:48 1 1
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Cue the inevitable crying and knicker-wetting from Bumble... she doesn’t like people making sense.
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18/02/2021 15:11:43 33 18
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Not sure about this but let me just check
Article 2 – the right to life
Article 3 – the right not to be subjected to degrading treatment
Article 5 – the right to liberty
Article 8 – the right to respect for an individual's private life
To be current I remember all the frightening lunacy that went on around HIV/AIDS
In 20 years advocates of this will be considered sociopaths
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@communist organ harvester
'it would be good to know who has had the china virus'

Thought the naming standard for pandemics was set when the 1917 pandemic was dubed 'Spanish flu' due to death rates, shouldn't it be called the UK flu? Could always rebrand it as the Boris Flu? He does like his name associated with his ideas from bike, busses, bridges to airports. He really should own this as well.
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18/02/2021 15:18:15 186 46
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Yep. This is absolutely going to happen.

Moronic anti-vaxxers can enjoy their staycations....
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I fail to see what advantage this gives Pimlico or any other business if only new staff have to have the jab. Not really much of an advertising slogan is it
"Choose Pimlico, our inexperienced apprentices have had the jab"
I suppose the Brexitieers will be happy, not many foreign plumbers will be able to apply for a job.
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i dont want a so called jab , check out VAERS , they are NOT safe , I have an immune system , this pandemic was organised at Event 201 in 2019 and getting the public vaccinated was the reason for this , there is NO public health crisis this is a political event . hospitals are empty , death rates are not above normal seasonal rates , deaths are old and ill people , 600,000 a year die on average Removed
19/02/2021 09:23:22 2 0
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Ok pal, meds time??
19/02/2021 09:37:36 0 0
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Can you recommend a good place where I can buy a tin foil hat?
19/02/2021 09:25:12 5 3
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you dont have to, but then you will have certain restrictions as you become a danger to others
Dont want you anywhere near me, but you dont have to be vaccinated
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19/02/2021 09:27:42 0 5
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I’m split on this. On the one hand it seems unreasonable to force a vaccine. On the other my share portfolio...
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Didn't like me pointing out the truth about the hatred of us (the English) that is endemic in the BBC, eh? Removed
19/02/2021 09:51:22 3 0
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Youre right. Feel free to leave it as the last person I want near me if some self entitled and selfish so and so.
I hope you're not suggesting I'm self-entitled or selfish.
After all your the one that uses a non-de-plume suitable for a date rapist.
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19/02/2021 14:34:45 0 2
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If someone wants the 'right' to refuse a C19 jab on non medical grounds

there should be a consequence that reflects that choice, because:

The NHS must also have 'rights'

The 'right' to protect their resources which are finite and very over stretched.

The 'right' NOT to treat someone who refuses jab and then gets C19.

No Jab should equal No NHS treatment.

Simple.
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