Sir Keir Starmer: Savings scheme would boost UK's recovery post-Covid
18/02/2021 | news | politics | 6,966
The Labour leader says there can be "no return to business as usual" as he sets out post-Covid policies.
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Dodds was not impressive in R4 this morning. Soundbites but no policies. The usual rubbish about 'ideology'. Not winning anyone over. It is still the case that nobody knows what Labour stand for.
no one takes daffy dodds seriously anymore
Even Rishi smiles in the commons and brushes her aside
Another front bencher with no new ideas
At least Jon Ashworth praises good ideas and then at least come us with some himself
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18/02/2021 11:13:29 8 12
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People are upset because an opposition party exists.

Groupthink in action.
changed your name again I see. anything to do with the horrid remarks you made about Sir captain Tom the other day? Removed
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18/02/2021 11:28:04 0 1
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What are you prattling on about ? Care to back up your libellous comments with some facts ?

Your post is off topic, btw.
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Hope so as that what it needs you don,t any thing for nothing
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The Tories rely on indoctrination from the gutter press for their survival. Labour never have. The UK has had an absolutely awful covid death toll which is more than double that of Germany, and the 2020 economic downturn of 10% was double the 5% of Germany. The UK political gap is massive and Labour don't rely on propaganda.
LOL Labour don't rely on anything, the Feminists are too busy trying to defend the concept of 'Woman' from the 'Trans' and the rest of them are a convoluted knot of identarians studying their navels trying to figure out just what identity they will self-certify as today. Removed
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18/02/2021 11:58:26 37 12
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Yes, the left in the UK have forgotten the working class and instead have become an identity cult solely focused on grievance issues from people who don't understand freedom of speech or even what "racist", "transphobe", "etc" actually mean.

The book Despised by Paul Embery does a good job explaining the dire position of Labour and the left.
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18/02/2021 12:32:58 5 3
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Care to name some labour policies that back this up? Or are you just going off some American twitter comments?
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This is the man who tried to persuade us to vote for Corbyn as Prime Minister!!

This is the man who created and proposed at that election, that Labour would renegotiate the EU Agreement, and then put that to a Second Referendum, thereby invalidating the first one.

But that’s not the clever bit, Labour would then campaign AGAINST their own Renegotiation!!

He’s an irrelevance, seeking relevance.
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No!
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18/02/2021 11:54:23 9 6
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Crikey, is that the best you can come up with? Were you using Sir Keir’s speech writer?
No, we are letting our staff do the work. I really must ring for the butler to bring me my midday Champagne. Then I will will ring the game keepers office, and find out how many people he has told to 'Git orf this land' today. Removed
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18/02/2021 12:03:22 1 0
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Ah devoid of meaningful response?

Throw out an insult!

Quality debating there andy
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The UK is totally unique in the world in putting more deaths down to Covid than the country's excess mortality figure !! There will be time for the true figures to be produced worldwide and compared on an even basis when this shower is over...I still expect UK to be high in the list, but nowhere near the top.....
127K Covid deaths - 91% + with at least ONE co-morbidity (ONS lists them, all killers in their own right) so of the 127K, 115K had at least ONE other usually lethal illness. The Av Age > 80. So lets assume that the other 12K were young and healthy. We locked down for 1 year 67 million people , 90%+ of them immune, for 12K, less than excess deaths in a many a flu season. Removed
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18/02/2021 11:59:54 22 4
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Typical garbage from you - deliberately ignoring the fact that we kept the numbers *down* to that level by locking down. If we had not, they'd have been much *much* worse. The NHS was right on the very edge of collapsing under load.
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18/02/2021 12:29:45 13 0
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We locked down to prevent that 127,000 being 500,000 or even more due to the inevitable collapse of the NHS but of course mentioning that doesn't fit your "all about me" agenda.
I can see you care not one whit for the lives of others, based solely on their age & existing illnesses.
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18/02/2021 12:40:46 1 4
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I agree with your stats those who are aged 80+ and with poor health have perished. However this doesn't fit with the libealist left who still want to rant and rave while frothing at the mouth.
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Corbyn was no warmonger while Starmer is another poodle for the NWO
underlying message about USA UK Israel was their PNAC Drone Wars against Muslims
Spies propaganda and rightwing media attacked the messenger who was anti-war
blessed are peacemakers aka children of God
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No, we are letting our staff do the work. I really must ring for the butler to bring me my midday Champagne. Then I will will ring the game keepers office, and find out how many people he has told to 'Git orf this land' today. Removed
Why don't the Corbyn faction just push off and form their own party that nobody will vote for ? Labour was formed by working class people who actually worked for a living, these clowns have never done a proper days work in their life and are just a bunch of spoilt middle class kids who hate mummy and daddy so are going to do hardcore socialism just to spite them. Removed
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18/02/2021 12:01:51 195 321
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Right so your argument is don't support the children of working class parents, who have worked as lawyers or career politicians. Instead support the children of upper class who have worked as bankers or career politicians?

Struggling to see how Etonians are the preferable less spoilt version?
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18/02/2021 12:06:55 40 7
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Love it or loathe it, the fact is that 10.3m voted for Corbyn's Labour in 2019. So you really can't claim they don't have a following. Hands up, I've never voted Labour as yet so have no skin in this particular game. But facts are fact.
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18/02/2021 12:50:15 33 26
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What hardcore socialism was Corbyn asking for? Borrowing to invest like Sunak is doing?

Is he a hardcore socialist ?
18/02/2021 13:02:00 47 14
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They probably will form their own party now that they're being kicked out and that Corbyn has lost the Labour whip.

Just a pity he didn't respect the will of his MPs and voters and quit back in 2016 when he 'went on holiday' during the referendum.

No one with any sense would want him as an MP. And I've voted Labour for 38 years including the last GE.

Good riddance to Steptoe.
18/02/2021 13:08:14 27 11
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Labour are required to deny social mobility in order to keep their traditional voters.

Keeping their Islington boots on the necks of workers for decades now.
18/02/2021 13:24:28 12 9
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I'll have to tell my old man (a retired miner with 35 years in the industry) that he's a 'spoilt middle class kid who has never done a proper days work in his life' based on his support of Corbyn.

He'll probably do himself an injury laughing at you.
18/02/2021 13:39:04 7 5
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An ignorant comment that contains no facts and fails to see that those in charge of the party have almost as little interest in the fate of the working class as the Tories.
18/02/2021 13:47:41 10 4
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At least Corbyn stood for something. Someone you can get behind and identify with. Starmer's got no danger of becoming a personality cult, that's for sure.
18/02/2021 14:12:09 8 5
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The clue is in the title "Labour". This lot are the usual human rights lawyers who'd spend other peoples hard earned money to prop up support from the shirkers.
18/02/2021 14:15:04 3 1
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Because most of the Labour Membership are from the Corbyn side of the party.
18/02/2021 14:40:36 5 3
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The Corbyn faction are more in favour of the interests of working class people than the Tories or Blairite or liberals or any others in Britain (except maybe the Green Party).

I am a young working class person. My grandfather worked on British Rail for 40 years and I work a modestly-paid job. Read the damn manifestoes - Corbyn was far better than the others.
18/02/2021 14:52:43 6 3
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Best Post I've read for ages. Labour no longer represent the poor. They are the party of the chattering middle classes. They won't see power for a good while.
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18/02/2021 15:17:17 3 1
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Have a little rest. Then you can post your comments on asylum seekers.
18/02/2021 15:29:10 3 0
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Because First Past The Post makes it less advantageous for the factions to split off. You saw that happen with the short lived "Change UK" party.

It is likely, given the divisions of the Labour party, that they would have already split if we had Proportional Representation. Our electoral system is archaic and not fit for purpose in the 21st Century.

The rest of your post is nonsense.
18/02/2021 15:31:29 1 0
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Many Socialists are pushing for SCG MPs + Momentum + BLM, XR, DPAC, CND, StW, Peoples' Assembly, Greens, Co-Op etc, & Trade Unions to create a new party, roughly analogous to Podemos, to take on the resurgent 'LibLbCon cabal'.

May as well, between losing Scotland in 2015, the Red Wall in 2019 & boundary changes Progress/Better Together/Peoples Vote "Labour" can't win a GE anyway.
18/02/2021 15:33:09 0 1
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One has to question the need to invent a bizarre set of stereotypes to belittle your opponents.

What a strange world you must inhabit.
18/02/2021 15:37:02 4 0
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Also, as a working class skinhead from Durham, I can assure you that the tabloid-indoctrinated boomer-babies & Gen X junkies with sick notes we aspirational types left behind in the so-called 'Red Wall' do not represent the British working class (at least, I hope not).
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working class people have been replaced by east europeans
LOL what a sweeping generalisation! Funny that you know all this isn't it? Are you a clairvoyant or something or just a bigoted idiot who hasn't got a clue? Removed
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Especially Starmer who was Kinighted for doing what? His day job.................................
18/02/2021 18:00:54 0 2
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corbyn fraction wont go away ,so why dont labour go away from workshy islington groupies
18/02/2021 18:08:09 3 0
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Actually, more than 10 million people voted for Labour in 2019, a surprising result bearing in mind the vicious media campaign against the party. Don't their views count?
Since 2019, the Conservatives have carried out the biggest Socialist agenda in Britain since Labour formed the NHS in 1948. Look at all the business people who have jumped on the state handout bandwagon. We're all Socialists now.
18/02/2021 18:13:59 0 1
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Sounds about right.
So we got Boris the mass murderer with his covid policies, and people in these comments are sill defending him. what a joke these voters are, would rather have a UK version of trump with god knows how many kids running around picking policies out of his behind, but say no to a reasonably normal politician lol Removed
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Mass murderer? I dislike Boris as much as most politicians but isn't that slander?
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Mass Murderer ? bit of a drama queen are you ?
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18/02/2021 12:28:26 6 5
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Since when have the 3 words "Starmer isn't trustworthy" been banned by the BBC?
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He had the opportunity to prosecute both Jimmy Savile and the Rotherham grooming gangs, but chose not to. If we can't trust him to take Paedophiles to Court, why should he be trusted with the economy? And don't forget Sarah Champion the MP for Rotherham was forced to resign from the Shallow Cabinet for speaking out on the issue, and was replaced by a racist who told the children to shut up! Removed
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Of course you do not mention the over 100 files that mysteriously went missing or was destroyed on the same subject, regarding the tory party!!
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As opposed to Captain Chaos?
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Labour in 1997 inherited a debt of 42% of GDP. Before the global banking crises in 2008, the debt had fallen to 35%. Labour inherited a deficit of 3.9% of GDP & by 2008 it had fallen to 2.1%. ONS

“Pre -crisis, UK government spending was at around 40% of national income. This level was not particularly high, either by the UK’s own historical standards or by international standards.” IFS
Oh look. An economically factually incorrect statement from oracle.

Labour inherited a 20bn budget surplus (figures from ONS not a left wing think tank)

By 2004 before the financial crisis it was a 40bn defecit
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If HM opposition had advocated making lockdowns targetted as per the science and pressed to lift them earlier then the countries econony would not need more state intervention.
As for the savings bond policy. Opportunistic, he’s read people have saved 120bio..... we ll have some of that. Whhsts stong with NS & I?
The red wall voted for brexit for less state not more.
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18/02/2021 10:57:10 341 65
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As a floating voter i'm struggling to understand where he sits with his politics. I've yet to hear anything of substance.
Maybe today is his day..
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This is the man who tried to persuade us to vote for Corbyn as Prime Minister!!

This is the man who created and proposed at that election, that Labour would renegotiate the EU Agreement, and then put that to a Second Referendum, thereby invalidating the first one.

But that’s not the clever bit, Labour would then campaign AGAINST their own Renegotiation!!

He’s an irrelevance, seeking relevance.
18/02/2021 13:18:34 23 5
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Save British economy

Don’t buy from China

Check it comes from the uk as in made in the uk

Avoid EU products were possible pay off your debts

Expensive coffee & eating out

Forget it

Take care of yours and the rest will follow

But remember avoid China products
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18/02/2021 12:28:38 12 3
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Of course, what we also need to add is that the Tories added more than a TRILLION to the national debt, nearly all of which went to the rich boosting their assets by £100s of £1000s some by £ millions>

These are facts that the Tories and their media (including the BBC) never, ever talk about.
The debt added was due to having to sort out the absolute shambles left by Labour.
That's something which doesn't happen overnight.
The bigger the mess, the longer & more money it takes to correct things.

Those are FACTS socialists hate to hear.

BBC is Tory?

Proof indeed you wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the rear.
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Talk with a posh accent.

Get away with 120 000 dead.
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If you’re scrolling down, welcome to the Labour bashing thread, featuring the gullible British public who would say it was a great idea had BJ & Co proposed it??
Question of trust.
Would you trust someone who chose to represent a paedophile?
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18/02/2021 13:54:15 1 0
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But...that was his job.
Keir Starmer took a stance against a democratic Brexit vote and took the knee for Marxism.
He is a waste of space and should not be taken seriously.
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If you think taking the knee for BLM is marxists you really don't know what it means, but it's no surprise given you're a Brexiter.
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18/02/2021 14:15:39 0 0
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Funnily enough even as left-leaning I'd never vote for him as he supported Brexit.

SNP it is all the way
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Stop lying
18/02/2021 14:16:31 0 0
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Took the knee for Black Lives Matter.
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Took the knee for Marxism. What a nerve. Suppose you're a Patel supporter. By the way the Black Lives movement nominated for peace prize
Boris has been to slow everytime and he has killed people because of this Keir has spoke the right way all time and would be the better PM any day it might be best for a change of party in Gov Removed
18/02/2021 14:02:12 3 12
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If you Brits could actually stop gabble, gabble all the time you could actually have a successful economy. As it is, you dont and you are not going to again. Britain does not have the business acumen or the mentality to be a big power again. It will not matter what Stammer does, the UK is buggered and you deserve it. Ignorant and arrogant countries always get their comeuppance. UK has its now.
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18/02/2021 14:51:47 2 2
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She may have underlying health conditions and be clinically at risk
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Are you her doctor or do you have access to her medical records?

If not, then you have no way of knowing if she has underlying health issues.
18/02/2021 14:54:16 0 0
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You'd think the interviewer may have asked? Jo's explanation about "possibly being her sisters carer" seemed a bit thin.
18/02/2021 14:55:33 1 0
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What has that got to do with anything, other than your anti-BBC hysteria?

Do you know her health situation in more depth than your assertion that she is healthy?

Do you check everyone else's legitimacy on the jab-queue too, or just the BBC staff?
18/02/2021 15:00:13 1 0
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That's what she was asking, doh. It's obviously an error.
18/02/2021 15:28:55 0 0
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Probably because she lives in an area where they are rolling out the vaccine faster and have jabbed their most vulnerable already so Jo was called up in line with policy. Plenty of potential reasons but the story plays out better on the BBC news when it's a non-deserving case getting ahead of a deserving case rather than real analysis of the situation.
Can't decide who is the most pointless politician in the UK today. Sir Sneer, Sadsack Can't or Wee Jimmy in Scotland.

All make lots of noise, all about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.
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Peas out of the same useless inept pod!
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wrong on both counts. its Captain Bungle or Bojo the clown comes out as clear winner on pointless!
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Can't decide who is the most pointless politician in the UK today. Sir Sneer, Sadsack Can't or Wee Jimmy in Scotland.

All make lots of noise, all about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.
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Not sure whether Mr Hindsight has noticed but his party are not in power after being thrashed at the last election
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"Covid has exposed deep inequalities in our society." said the multi millionaire Knight.

You couldn't make it up.
Yes, what does he think good decent people have been shouting about, signing petitions, donating to foodbanks etc for absolutely YEARS? And supporting junior doctors strikes? Idiot. Removed
Why don't the Corbyn faction just push off and form their own party that nobody will vote for ? Labour was formed by working class people who actually worked for a living, these clowns have never done a proper days work in their life and are just a bunch of spoilt middle class kids who hate mummy and daddy so are going to do hardcore socialism just to spite them. Removed
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I could never trust liebore under Sir queer of brussels. Can you imagine your annual statement? "there's nothing left" !!!! Removed
Why don't the Corbyn faction just push off and form their own party that nobody will vote for ? Labour was formed by working class people who actually worked for a living, these clowns have never done a proper days work in their life and are just a bunch of spoilt middle class kids who hate mummy and daddy so are going to do hardcore socialism just to spite them. Removed
LOL what a sweeping generalisation! Funny that you know all this isn't it? Are you a clairvoyant or something or just a bigoted idiot who hasn't got a clue? Removed
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I don’t know what Starmer stands for. At a guess, he is centre-left (closer to Blair). Now he must do what Blair failed to do and remove the extreme elements from the Labour Party (The Corbynites).

Under Blair, they rechristened themselves “New” and became palatable to the public. Putting Blair’s central government to one side, it has been nearly 50 years since Labour last one power (1974).
You're thick or deluded if you think Corbyn is in any way extreme.

The extremists are on the right these days.
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Starmer talks about working with business, pledging to keep people’s money safe yet a few months ago his party’s policy was to destroy capitalism and wage a war in big business inc. Big Pharma! Has everyone in Labour changed their minds - of course not. I don’t buy any of this and won’t until the likes of Momentum have left Labour.
The government on both sides have been infiltrated by China, do not hand the state anything, if you have money buy gold. Do not give the state anything, we are becoming china, they have taken our jobs, they are taking our health from being locked up and jabbed, next they will take our houses, Schwab said, you will own nothing and you will be happy. Hell they are even experimenting on our kids. Removed
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Joe Fake McFake news has been taken in by all the tosh.
THERES NOT A SINGLE LAW,NOT ONE,REQUIRING ANYBODY TO CLOSE ANY BUSINESS,ANYWHERE,JUST RING THE POLICE OR A SOLICITOR,THEY,LL TELL YOU EXACTLY THE SAME,NOT ONE LAW! Removed
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Wrong.
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Oh dear, oh dear, Starmer has only gone and upset the righties posting on this HYS. It seems them didn't like the way he pulled the last ten Tory years apart and the way he laid out the road which the thinking voter will walk down with him.
18/02/2021 17:19:05 4 1
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Labour targeting the prudent.
Ban Facebook in retaliation for Australia - that should gain revenue stream when they start squealing. Global action please. Removed
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At least this Government give us something to judge and in November 2019 gave a 80 seat majority to same. All this supposed opposition do is issue rhetoric!!!!
And you are trying to turn it into a one party state and clearly don't mind your tax monies going into the pockets of corrupt Tory cronies. Ironically, the present government has also been forced to do practically everything that was in Corbyn's manifesto ?? Do try engaging your brain before posting again. Removed
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From a party who supported the Scargill thugs in the 70s
Lol, keep going and you'll find that the daily mail supported British Nazis, as did the royal family and that the Tories love to tax the poor to give to the rich Removed
Lol, keep going and you'll find that the daily mail supported British Nazis, as did the royal family and that the Tories love to tax the poor to give to the rich. One of the Snowflake brigade didn't like the above and reported it to be removed. Lol, made my day Removed
18/02/2021 18:43:48 0 0
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Everything you say may be true.....but Starmer will not do anything to change things.....he is a Tory and he’s destroying the Labour Party
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WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS ABOUT? UK FINISHED SCOTLAND/WALES A GUTSFUL, CHAOS BORDER WITH R.O.I A SOCCER PLAYER SCREAMING TO FEED KIDS, POVERTY RAMPANT, CRASHED OUT OF THE WORLDS BIGGEST TRADING BLOC ON THE WHIM OF ETON BOYS THE REST OF THE WORLD WON'T TOUCH YOU WITH A BARGEPOLE, NO P.P.E & ONE OF THE HIGHEST DEATH RATES IN THE WORLD FROM C-19, RUN BY BOZO THE CLOWN YOU'VE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD? HA HA
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How useless is this guy at this rate Labour won’t get back in this century. They have no identity or direction and the party is broken. How can anyone vote for them!
Well just vote in the idiot there at the moment loser . Removed
Labour are just a bunch of nasty Gestapo's with the same tactics, mentality, hatred and anti semitism. Removed
18/02/2021 19:31:30 0 6
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no they aren;t. you are a generalising liar.
18/02/2021 19:34:48 0 0
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Look in the mirror
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Sorry i meant stand him next to Jeremy Corbyn, you get the picture
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When Labour whet against the peoples vote in 2016 .t lost all credability.
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Thats good.... splitting the vote just leaves the door wide open for Boris :-)
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I wouldn’t vote Labour as much as the next Tory but after 10yrs of Tory rule,
can anyone list any positives to society that they’ve brought?

Answer: nothing, they’ve forced the closure of hospitals, sold off police stations, cut police, nurses & burseries, libraries, sold post offices, cut HMRC staff so we can’t go after their offshored donors. The list is a lot longer, I need a 2,000 words limit
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Why? Has the truth made your head hurt?
One of Starmer's top campaign donors was Trevor Chinn who is an executive at BICOM - Britain's most influential Israel lobbying group. Another donor was Martin Taylor who was a Barclays exec who attended Bildeberg. If we keep voting for these red vs blue puppet politicians, we'll get the nightmare totalitarian dictatorship we deserve. If we raise our level of conscious beyond (char limit reached) Removed
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And Cummings worked for the Russians. How long did he spend in Russia??
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The totalitarian is in Downing street. Has the raft of laws past the last year without parliamentary scrutiny passed you by or what.
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You can’t handle the truth
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dont trust that lot/ they will take away your pension
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I think starmer is more interested in obeying his middle eastern masters Removed
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What a complete load of nonsense ??
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Norfolk.?
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Much better to vote Tory, bought and owned by Russian oligarchs, eh?

??????
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Seen Priti lately
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Saudi eh . . . like thatcher . .
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Tory mp’s checking this hys tonight, which I am sure they do, will be laughing their socks off.
For some reason, the public have zero faith in the Labour Party.
I don’t know what it is or who it represents - apart from Guardian buying BBC types.
That's because you are thick as shit :) Removed
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Does not being tory make you 'lefty' or just honest ?
Makes you thick as shit. Removed
A silver spooned toff who pocketed a handout of 7 million from the tax payer coffers by Cameron to do up his mansion!
No not Starmer...It was Jacob William Rees-Mogg who voted for a bedroom tax to the just about managing, and against a mansion tax on the very rich!
A dinosaur from the past who hides 'HIS OWN' money in tax havens abroad.
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He relocated Somerset Capital Management to Ireland, takes his dividends in Euros.

If you then tank GBP, he earns more.

His father even wrote a book on disaster capitalism.
18/02/2021 21:25:10 3 0
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Rees-Mogg also moved part of his business over to Dublin several years ago - because he knew leaving the EU would have massive repercussions

plus Private Eye reported at the time that there were massive Tax benefits that running an LLP got

See Private Eye current issue "In the City" which explains how LLPs get out of Employer's National Insurance Contributions
18/02/2021 21:09:46 7 4
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1, The pandemic is nothing like WW2.
2, Labour borrowing again and with no detail.
I used to regard Brits as more discerning than our colonial cousins.

Not any more.TrumpVeg and BrexitoryVeg are indistinguishable.
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18/02/2021 21:23:58 0 0
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You’re getting confused as per usual, it’s the 48% syndrome you seem to suffering from, Trump also had 48%!!??
Wonder what 'leave' have for tea tomorrow ??

What else rhymes with 'quitter', leaveskis ?
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I used to regard Brits as more discerning than our colonial cousins.

Not any more.TrumpVeg and BrexitoryVeg are indistinguishable.
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Starmer would steal your hard earned savings and give them to a jihadist pretending to be an asylum seeker as soon as look at you. Removed
18/02/2021 21:25:20 0 4
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Yer !!!! I'd do that to you too :)
18/02/2021 21:25:43 2 1
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One of the most ridiculous comments on here
anti-immigrant, racist drivel Removed
18/02/2021 21:25:51 3 1
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Would he? Not even Corbyn promised to do that. Making stuff up again?
18/02/2021 21:25:54 4 1
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You're a bit sick
Did you hear the one about the honest 'leave' voter ?

Nor us.
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18/02/2021 21:27:01 1 0
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Yep, they own the Remoaner!! ??
18/02/2021 21:27:18 0 0
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Many are honest at the same time as being fooled.
18/02/2021 21:27:51 0 0
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Ha ha ha....

Maybe you ought to use that on the doorstep when campaigning in the former red wall seats.
18/02/2021 21:28:11 0 1
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Did you hear the one about the whiny remain voter, yeah all the bl****y time.
Starmer would steal your hard earned savings and give them to a jihadist pretending to be an asylum seeker as soon as look at you. Removed
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Reece Mogg really does understand you people very well.

Why he carries a dog-whistle.
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'brexit' ?

I'd rather walk near 'spoons.
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Be nice if they could erect a thatcher statue in public ;) Removed
18/02/2021 21:33:33 1 10
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The Romans were keen on depicting Labour leaders
Ironic remainers still go on about brexit even though the Eu is on the verge of bankruptcy. Removed
18/02/2021 21:33:32 6 1
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Yes, yes - Brexit is ‘done’ - which is exactly why Conservatives just promoted an unelected bureaucrat to Brexit minister in the cabinet ?????
18/02/2021 21:35:27 0 0
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Didn't see anything about Brexit until you dropped in with your fantasy.
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18/02/2021 21:36:36 0 0
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Ironic Brexiteers still think the EU is on the verge of destruction when their own Brexit massively strengthened it.

No-one else in Europe wants to have to hand over 72 sheets of paperwork for a crate of fish.
18/02/2021 21:44:23 1 0
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The EU is not on the verge of bankruptcy. Even if it were, is that something we should be proud of? Well done Brexiteers, you're taking those damn French down with us!
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18/02/2021 21:43:27 5 2
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Do you think the PM has ever told lies?
Bbc moderators blocking truth again. Removed
18/02/2021 21:38:37 8 6
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tory bot. ignore
18/02/2021 21:39:32 3 3
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They are busy tonight!
This was removed by the BBC. It is factually correct and no more offensive then calling him a cad. I wrote.
A silver spooned toff who pocketed a handout of 7 million from the tax payer coffers by Cameron to do up his mansion! Jacob Rees Mogg who voted for a bedroom tax to the poor, and against a mansion tax on the very rich!
A dinosaur from the past who hides 'HIS OWN' money in tax havens abroad.
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18/02/2021 21:56:05 3 13
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"I hate this Tory" is not the topic, though
18/02/2021 22:02:14 0 0
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Auntie now has her arm up her back - the first job of the new Beeb Director-General , Tory Tim Davie, is to corral the news output and to make sure that the news focuses on Covid and not the disastrous consequences of the greatest change to the UK in the modern era - psss - don't mention the B word
18/02/2021 22:06:07 8 1
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Hahaha, did you see the man try and sweep a floor after flooding up north?

He was flummoxed by a broom ??????
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18/02/2021 22:15:31 1 0
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Boris would be eating everyone's butties
18/02/2021 22:42:07 0 0
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Given your vocabulary, I can only compare you to Mrs Slocombe's pet. You are a total 'pet'.
18/02/2021 22:08:46 11 2
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The BBC comments section used to be a laugh and a place to debate. Now it has become a place where hate, intolerance and fake news thrive. Very few people have a sense of humour or are interested in the truth.
Yahoo comments was shut down because it had become infiltrated by a extreme right wing virus, it looks like that virus has now spread to the BBC comments section too.
Awww diddums

I reported all your off topic anti Mogg hate posts.

You're very welcome
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Klauss Starmer's dad was a tool maker apparently. He sure was. Removed
18/02/2021 22:23:19 4 0
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Yes he was. Do you have a problem with that?
18/02/2021 22:26:27 2 1
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At least he knows who his dad is unlike some in power children
18/02/2021 22:34:11 0 0
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You couldn't even spell it right. Doh
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18/02/2021 22:29:31 6 1
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Culling their own voting base is certainly a bold move, isn’t it?

??????
18/02/2021 22:29:34 3 0
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Vile comment.
18/02/2021 22:19:39 6 9
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The Liebour money tree
Let’s talk about Johnson’s lies ... he’s got volumes of them ... and these are just the ones before the General Election ... who voted for this lazy cheating racist corrupt pathological liar?

https://boris-johnson-lies.com/
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18/02/2021 22:47:53 9 8
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You should see the faces of the pro brexit voters who I tell that immigration figures are the same except for the fact that instead of EU migrant workers we now have Workers from Africa and other places. You should see how white there faces turn and how sick they look. What’s interesting is every single one would’ve voted differently. Bless their little racist hearts they’re really scared now.
Idk a single Brexit voted who'd change their vote. But I know a few Remainers who would. Not those refuseniks who are still out there refighting the battle....online ofc Removed
18/02/2021 23:09:53 0 0
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On the contrary, I have spoken to a number of leavers who wonder what they actually voted for. Biggest waste of time and money this nation has seen for several generations
18/02/2021 23:07:16 2 0
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Evidence?
Lefties are more obsessed with race than Nazis hmmmmmm! Removed
18/02/2021 23:07:56 0 1
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It will depend on where you live as to what party you vote for
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18/02/2021 23:01:09 6 8
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The problem with Starmer is that he is just not electable he has no personality whatsoever. He hasn’t transform the Labour Party into a fighting force. Basically he’s a haircut without a spine, and there’s a lot of people that just will not vote for him
Yeah! Britain wants a PM that dates pole dancers, gets caught by his pregnant fiancée being sexually incontinent with a young violinist then spends all of the start of the pandemic trying to save his relationship rather than saving British peoples lives. Removed
Lefties are more obsessed with race than Nazis hmmmmmm! Removed
18/02/2021 23:11:38 9 6
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the only reason Labour ever take any interest in savers is when they have thought up a way to get their hands on their savings and pension pots without it actually looking like theft. Socialists have always been fond of other people's money
"get their hands on their savings and pension pots without it actually looking like theft"

It's a bond you utter moron.
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18/02/2021 23:28:33 1 3
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Would KS please just get a decent hair cut?
Sad, but image is everything.
18/02/2021 23:54:49 7 3
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The right wing media/tories won't be funding their activists £65,000 to send fake Facebook ads smearing him like they did corbyn as he is part of the same machine!
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19/02/2021 00:18:53 3 0
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As a Jew, I scrutinised the post above & find nothing remotely antisemitic nor loony left in it at all. You must be having a 'very good evening' (euphemism).
19/02/2021 00:05:19 8 4
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Of course it won’t happen as you are going against the banks and the right wing who want their boot on our necks and backed by an army of nut jobs and lemmings, anti foreigners, propaganda slurpers, Maggie licking, BNP followers oh and EDL , etc great bunch of people who I’d never join. Damn it must be so fulfilling to be a Tory, what a positive bunch you have there, life and soul of the party
What a total racist you really are! Removed
19/02/2021 00:11:32 5 2
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Please highlight the bit above that is in any way racist?
Or, better still, google 'racist' and learn what it means.
Clue: Tory isn't a race. Limited gene pool, maybe, but not a race.
Armchair Bore
"Yet you support the Chinese."

I love China, having lived and worked there many years

The Chinese government is not perfect

It is not worse than Trump

It is not worse than the current UK government

The Chinese people however

Are so much better than white British people

I cannot begin to explain the many and complex reasons why

And if I tried you would never understand
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19/02/2021 00:17:16 4 0
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Man a minute ago you were an anarchist. China is state capitalist. Bu**er the Chinese tyranny.
Apple suicide factories are atypical then?
19/02/2021 00:34:00 0 1
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bigmowlay

You CCP ?
19/02/2021 00:36:20 4 2
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I am sure you are sincere about your time in China. But now it is run by a closet Imperialist bent apparently on world hegemony. Consider how his government treats poorer nations to gain access to their resources, and also the Uighars. I agree he is no worse than Trump, but nor is he any better. We should beware dealing with China, in the same way that we should have bewared dealing with Hitler.
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19/02/2021 01:05:24 1 1
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bigmowlay'
Lived and worked in China really? Don't think so, really have to wonder what you are trying to convince us or yourself? I have lived and worked in the Far East, including China, for decades and I think even the Chinese would find your post offensive.
If the lemmings who voted pro Brexit were told we would exchange poles for Nigerians Brexit wouldn’t of happened. The dinosaur racists alone would’ve swung the vote back the other way , let alone the idiots who just thought immigration would simply vanish. And I’d much rather be a socialist than a right wing elitist nazi Removed
19/02/2021 00:22:13 2 2
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Wow good impersonation of the Furher
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19/02/2021 00:31:45 1 3
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The famous re education programme
19/02/2021 00:36:21 2 1
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Untrue!
Gove can sing "The Sash" word perfectly
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/56025989

And Boris, while not a singer can recite poetry
Like "The Road to Manadalay"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-41453375
19/02/2021 00:53:52 0 0
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"I learned long ago never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and the pig likes it"
-George Bernard Shaw
19/02/2021 00:26:38 3 6
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After WWII, the UK went through a massive public spending program, which essentially fueled capital spending on infrastructure. When one looks around at what are the grand projects that will benefit future generations, what really stands out is the continued investment in BAME communities given that they form the majority of many inner city schools and the British prefer a multiculturalism.
What like windrush? Removed
Its pointless as we wont see any of there Great ideas any time soon. Due to the way they constantly swipe and blame. that baby labour MP WHO IS 23 blaming the torries for a decade of under funding. so @ 13 she was moaning. she is one bitter bitch... Removed
19/02/2021 00:46:13 5 1
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So, in your little world, no-one can look at relatively recent political history & make observations about it, even if they are a bit young to have experienced it directly. What a quite extraordinarily stupid view.
19/02/2021 00:46:55 3 0
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A weird take - e.g. you’re suggesting I should have to actually live through any event to form an opinion on it?

Why have historians if that’s the case?

Very odd...
19/02/2021 00:26:38 3 6
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After WWII, the UK went through a massive public spending program, which essentially fueled capital spending on infrastructure. When one looks around at what are the grand projects that will benefit future generations, what really stands out is the continued investment in BAME communities given that they form the majority of many inner city schools and the British prefer a multiculturalism.
yeah unless its made of concrete the Burn Loot Murder it. and the steal or stab the gang that helped them.... Napalm will fix that housing issue....as the social housing is covered in buildings with cladding approved by a labour government and mayor..... Removed
Armchair Bore
"Yet you support the Chinese."

I love China, having lived and worked there many years

The Chinese government is not perfect

It is not worse than Trump

It is not worse than the current UK government

The Chinese people however

Are so much better than white British people

I cannot begin to explain the many and complex reasons why

And if I tried you would never understand
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Quote-The Chinese people are so much better than WHITE British people" BBC moderators have you seen this casual racism polluting your public forum? Removed
Armchair Bore
"Yet you support the Chinese."

I love China, having lived and worked there many years

The Chinese government is not perfect

It is not worse than Trump

It is not worse than the current UK government

The Chinese people however

Are so much better than white British people

I cannot begin to explain the many and complex reasons why

And if I tried you would never understand
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bigmowlays Chinese adventure seems like it included a stint at one of their concentr,,,ahem, re-education camps. Removed
19/02/2021 00:26:38 3 6
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After WWII, the UK went through a massive public spending program, which essentially fueled capital spending on infrastructure. When one looks around at what are the grand projects that will benefit future generations, what really stands out is the continued investment in BAME communities given that they form the majority of many inner city schools and the British prefer a multiculturalism.
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Let’s March the unemployed down the motorway verges and make them pick up litter . Sorry tories no can do as unless you pay them a national minimum wage plus holiday pay and pensions like normal or it’ll be classed as modern day slavery. So they scrapped the idea but why scrap it? Unless it was only appealing when it was slavery? That in a nutshell is what’s in charge, aspiring slave masters Removed
19/02/2021 01:24:32 5 3
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I find it absolutely amazing how many comments on this article are totally "off topic" sliding into the realms of nationalism even racism and nothing to do with Sir Keir Starmer's proposals which certainly warrant serious consideration. As to whether they will actually work that is a matter open for discussion.
Wankeir Starmer is a tory no better than Death Johnson

The function of his otherwise worthless proposals is to keep him and his fellow class traitors in their lucrative careers in permanent opposition for another couple of decades prior to their ennoblement
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19/02/2021 06:28:12 1 4
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They’re only giving away a tiny number & it’s the least effective one that most countries won’t use.
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19/02/2021 07:10:49 2 7
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It's all simple. First buy British, if there is none build a factory and buy British. Second flat tax and benefit. Third foreign aid exclusively British goods and services
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19/02/2021 07:34:04 6 11
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Any stardust that Starmer had when he became Labour leader is gone, now he's on a journey to nowhere. I would not trust him to run a tap.
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19/02/2021 07:10:49 2 7
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It's all simple. First buy British, if there is none build a factory and buy British. Second flat tax and benefit. Third foreign aid exclusively British goods and services
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19/02/2021 08:26:17 7 16
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It's all a matter of choice.
In my lifetime Liebour have governed twice.
Both times they have left the economy in an awful state.
Do I trust a London metropolitan elite luvvie to do any better ?

Hhmmmm, better the devil you know.
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19/02/2021 08:50:40 5 10
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IV over the years voted labour libs and Tory for one reason or another .
The conclusion IV come to .
They are all liers tow rags
IV only every got one thing I voted for that's brexit .
Boris is by far the best PM for many years

??????????
You should take up the offer of Home schooling. Removed
19/02/2021 09:06:39 0 4
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See my bad schooling was under labour gov ??????
19/02/2021 08:54:10 5 0
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And yet, strangely, it seems to be YOU, who doesn't support those Great British values of free speech & democracy. It seems to be you, who wants to 'no platform' those you SUSPECT (sans evidence) are 'forrin'. I wonder why that might be, Richard.
Oh Cats Ash …. no no no ……… I believe in Democracy ..

YOU were the one that said BREXIT WILL NEVER HAPPEN - THAT THE EU WOULDN'T ALLOW IT ………………….outrageous.

YAP YAP
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19/02/2021 09:08:09 3 0
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Oh, look, you lied. I have never said Brexit wouldn't happen. I most certainly didn't say EU wouldn't allow it. Being a retired lawyer & having read all half page of Article 50, I know that would have been impossible

IF YOU ARE GOING TO LIE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT VAGUELY PLAUSIBLE,
Cats Ash is a retired Lawyer ……… and she condemns Politicians who constantly lie … lol

John - points out the pluses of the EU …. yes there are pluses that we would want to keep if the EU would let us … BUT … we still wanted our Country back.

Have to wait for the Covid shock to smash up the 27 ………… then perhaps we can have a Common Market AND NOT AN EU … for the Elite.
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Lol Richard, you’ve got Brexitus Suckerus, a world-beating case too.

Lord Rees-Moggy isn’t the Elite?

Billionaire Sunak isn’t the Elite?

De Piffle isn’t the Elite?

Russian Oligarchs aren’t the Elite?
19/02/2021 09:47:06 2 0
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What has being a lawyer got to do with politicians who lie? Or did you think that the only sort of lawyer that exists is the American, fictionalised criminal defence lawyer?
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19/02/2021 10:04:01 3 0
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You ever heard of the ESF (European Social Fund)? The most deprived areas in the UK benefited from it, so hardly an organisation "for the elites". And yes, it was recycled UK money that went to the EU in the first place, but via the EU it ended up in the UK places that needed it most. That will never happen again with the proper elites in charge. South Wales etc are just waking up to that now.
19/02/2021 10:46:02 1 0
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Well, thank you for self-identifying as being pig ignorant about the law, as well as all the other things you're pig ignorant about, Dick.
Richard
09:26

"BUT … we still wanted our Country back."

It's quite amazing anyone was fool enough to fall for this line.

:)
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BUT … we still wanted our Country back.
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What do you mean by this Richard?
Donald Trump still treated us a poodle regardless.....we saw that with the reversal of the Chinese tech contract at Trump’s behest.

Patel has done nothing to actually control our borders. Pre Covid immigrations levels were rocketing!

We’ve ‘got nothing back’ that’s tangible.
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19/02/2021 09:43:12 8 0
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Most if not all dopeys who fell for the line "our country back" have no idea what our country is or what it means
We never list this country but dopeys just love lies, BS slogans and are so easily conned
19/02/2021 08:34:10 7 13
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To John.

All you posts seem to be about you hating the UK and wishing it's down fall.

Are you actually British or just a Gate Crasher from abroad ….. serious question ?
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arfurpops
09:31

"shows how useless Labour are"

Do explain further ... I'd love to read a reasoned argument from a Brexit Tory.

First time for everything.

:)
YOU CAN READ Ole Ole ………. wow, I thought you were being read to ?

Explaining Brexit to you would be like Einstein chatting to a Crow in a Tree.
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19/02/2021 09:50:07 4 0
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In other words you cant explain it
19/02/2021 10:42:37 1 0
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Guess, reading between your Upper Case lines / insults, you are really saying that you can't explain a damned thing. Hardly a shocker.
19/02/2021 09:48:02 1 10
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knew it wouldnt be long before the remoanerfest started
Not had one brexit for while now
19/02/2021 09:50:16 7 3
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Funnybhow many ex Labour PMs, leaders and senior cabinet ministers have been in great demand in international politics, finance etc etc

Yet many ex tories simply slip into oblivion
19/02/2021 11:31:48 1 13
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Intellect is irrelevant within "One vote each" democratic equality.
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19/02/2021 13:12:56 3 0
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You don't get the point from your comment?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

:)
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19/02/2021 13:32:47 4 4
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Some of these Tory Bots must think we are all stupid.
Aren't you? Self praise is no praise Removed
19/02/2021 13:44:00 0 2
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Tory voters are more likely to be stupid than Labour voters. That is a fact.
"Matt Hancock acted unlawfully over Covid contract details, High Court judge rules"

Never trust a Tory as they are interested in looking after themselves and friends ??
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19/02/2021 17:30:59 6 5
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Facts speak for themselves !

The only way Labour have been elected in recent decades is when they nicked the Tories' clothes and called themselves 'NEW LABOUR' !!
You are the most boring poster on HYS.

There, I’ve said it. Way overdue.

It’s like listening to someone on their hands and knees licking boots. So demeaning.
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19/02/2021 17:42:19 3 3
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You seem very upset!

Can understand why!
19/02/2021 13:51:20 0 2
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thats because no alternative