Covid-19: World's first human challenge trials to start in UK
17/02/2021
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Healthy, young volunteers will be deliberately infected with a low dose of coronavirus.
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The is UK first again. Well, remoaners?
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How pathetic. Grow up.
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too busy on the other thread moaning about music
Brexit is done and your comment is irrelevant. And Brexit supporters wonder why they are portrayed as stupid.
Maybe they're doing that seeing as their options have been seriously narrowed by narrow-minded people??
The is UK first again. Well, remoaners?
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Why has it taken nearly a year to do this?
Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?
The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.
We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?
The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.
We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
Human Trials commenced the moment people started getting the vaccine. CDC (USA) data indicates 903 deaths shortly after receipt of dose 1. 10,400 hospital admissions - just because that happened soon after no one can swear on the bible it was directly caused by injection of foreign bodies. That data is the data from all states.
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What did you expect? If you vaccinate all the very old and Ill people first, obviously a significant proportion of them will die or get Ill enough to be hospitalised soon after administration - and it is very likely the vast majority would have died or been admitted had they not been vaccinated.
Wrong again. Get your facts and statistics straight. When vaccinating a population you can expect a proportion of them to die / be taken ill due to unrelated causes within a short time. The figures show that there were no excess deaths amongst the vaccinated groups.
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently.
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I would love to hear you explain how it is drivel, I do of course expect you to back up any arguments with proven facts and with any luck experience and education in the field that you are debating.
Sent any troll e-mails recently?
And you are exactly the sort of cretin most people on here are commenting on!
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Fat Fur Rant...do shut up, please - the Vaccines are not drivel and it is or should be criminal for you to say so
Thank goodness normal people will not take notice, and while no doubt you delight in possibly swaying the vulnerable, susceptible...your attitude, mindset and comment are all inappropriate, - shame on you
Thank goodness normal people will not take notice, and while no doubt you delight in possibly swaying the vulnerable, susceptible...your attitude, mindset and comment are all inappropriate, - shame on you
Firstly I believe the word you were looking for was efficacious. Secondly the word drivel means nonsense , which is not something you inject . It is something that can spew from a persons mouth,something that you seem extremely qualified in being able to do. Not very eloquently.
What does this say about the wimps who refuse to have the vaccine.
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It says they've managed without for over a year and can easily manage another.
I wash my hands.
I wash my hands.
I think what you'll find chap is that most healthcare professionals are looking on with cynicism as we all are in the know that rushed vaccines like this, particularly politically-driven vaccination programmes, are largely a waste of time.
Hard hitting vaccines that work efficaciously take many years to develop and test and even then some people don't respond with enough antibodies. Removed
Hard hitting vaccines that work efficaciously take many years to develop and test and even then some people don't respond with enough antibodies. Removed
There is nothing wimpish about being hesitant to take a type of vaccine (mRNA - Pfizer and Moderna) that has never been approved for use in humans before. Autoimmune reactions can take several months if not years to manifest, so at this stage we simply cannot say whether these vaccines are safe long term.
Wow how judgemental of you. Just because people don't have the vaccine it doesn't make them a wimp it means they're quite happy to rely on their immune system whilst waiting to see what the long term effects of the vaccine are on the virtuous
Why do you have to be so tribal and childish. I am not in the at-risk category and I already had Covid. I will not take the experimental MRNA therapy until the results are proven. There is a reason why Pfizer and Moderna have been indemnified against side effects. That does not make me any more or less wimpish, it makes me rational.
Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day
I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all
+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family
Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all
+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family
Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
Not sure who these guardianistas are, is that another name for alt right because studies show that these are the generally more likely to be trolls.
The people giving the thumbs down to this must be pathetic trolls
I read the Guardian comments daily, always wise to know what your enemy is up to. And yes, lefties really do hate the UK and anyone who stands up for it. At the moment they are attacking Sir Keir for being patriotic! The UK is a wonderful country, the best in the world. And these young volunteers indicate that is going to be the case for a long time to come!
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently.
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day
I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all
+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family
Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all
+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family
Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
I think what you'll find chap is that most healthcare professionals are looking on with cynicism as we all are in the know that rushed vaccines like this, particularly politically-driven vaccination programmes, are largely a waste of time.
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Hard hitting vaccines that work efficaciously take many years to develop and test and even then some people don't respond with enough antibodies. Removed
I think what you will find "pal" is that you are simply typing without researching anything you are putting down.
There is some truth in that, but the powers that be had to start somewhere. Yes they will develop the vaccines as time goes on, but they are a step in the right direction. Presumably you wouldn't have bothered to do anything, and just leave everything to luck?
Are the trials being overseen by Josef Mengele?
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All the participants should be applauded for their selflessness in trying to help humanity
Why REMOVE THE COMMENT TRUTH HURT DID IT BECAUSE ITS OK BEEEBEEEECEEEE I have a screenshot,, and will post it all over social media...
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Apparently, the BBC don't allow dissent when it comes to commenting on the dishwater vaccine currently being given to the gullible.
Efficacious vaccines take years to test and develop and even then flaws appear.
We RGN's look on in bewilderment at the millions swallowing the current grab for a relatively ineffective vaccine against this deadly pathogen.
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Efficacious vaccines take years to test and develop and even then flaws appear.
We RGN's look on in bewilderment at the millions swallowing the current grab for a relatively ineffective vaccine against this deadly pathogen.
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Vaccines typically take a long time initially for 2 reasons, lack of money to set up hundreds of test sites and lack of patients. The pandemic has provided the patients and governments and pharma companies have invested the money. A truly marvellous achievement. Please don't let ignorance stop you from getting the vaccine. I have had my first dose
Yeah good idea, lets jab all the kids and make them infertile.. Instant depopulation Mr Gates, you will be happy.
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Ah, religion spreading lies again. this is false info
Only on the BBC could you post a comment like mine and get more thumbs down than thumbs up.. Come on Sheeple.. wake up and smell the coffee before its too late.. youre being lied to by the MSM
What do you suggest should be done with those people with whom you disagree? How about concentrating them in one place - only for their own safety, and others, of course. And that's only until a final solution can be found about what to do with these "contemptible, selfish, vile conspiracy lunatics"....
You can't answer the question though can you. I bet you're all about freedom and freedom of speech as long as it matches your opinion. Think you're the one wearing the tin foil!
So what do you suggest then? Straight to the gas chamber?
Another 'one of them' here. People with different opinion exist deal with it
This is bullying and is deliberately trying to silence a poster from freedom of expression. It's arguable that the first two comments are also designed to do the same.
I haven't looked at the rest of the HYS, but I suspect there are lots of these comments. It's why the BBC should pro-actively moderate.
I haven't looked at the rest of the HYS, but I suspect there are lots of these comments. It's why the BBC should pro-actively moderate.
The uk is great if you ignore
The racists who voted for Brexit
The fact that we have a terrible, inexperienced populist leader whose dither & failures have cost 10,000s British lives
The fact that most of the far right hate group "Britain First" joined the Tory party after the election last year to try to keep this buffoon in power
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The racists who voted for Brexit
The fact that we have a terrible, inexperienced populist leader whose dither & failures have cost 10,000s British lives
The fact that most of the far right hate group "Britain First" joined the Tory party after the election last year to try to keep this buffoon in power
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you are part of the the problem , saying people are racist when they are not at all . You are, i imagine a left wing socialist who does not like results of polls unless you are on the winning side .. You dont like democracy
People voted for Brexit for many valid reasons, but racism was not one of them.
Easy solution if you hate Britain. Find somewhere better if you can. Nobody is keeping you here, there are many places cheaper to live.
Why don't you go and live in another country? It has two benefits. The first is that you will be able to see if you like that country. The other benefit is for Britain. We need patriotic, proud, hardworking, positive thinking people, especially now. Good luck.
The uk is great if you ignore.......... people like "Boris Says Simple Slogans For Simple People"; who have to shoehorn Brexit into every conversation.
Racists voted for Brexit eh? What a claim to make, care to prove it? Or are you far to clever to think there are people who voted to leave who are intelligent non racist normal people!
You need to explain your BREXIT racist comment. When compared with our European neighbours the UK is an egalitarian, racially integrated society.
And the down votes confirm your statement. We could become the Great Britain we always were if only the flag wavers were to leave and I'm no labour supporter or Lib Dem!!
Get Children back to school NOW! Don't listen to the workshy Teachers and shameful leftist Unions. Children face a lifetime of mental health issues triggered by lack of social mixing, isolation and despair. Its hidden so not as news worthy as queuing Ambulances outside of Hospitals.
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the world has gone mad, all this destruction, generally to try to extend/protect the lives of old people at a huge cost to everyone else and before all covid fascists start with the, if you were old or if its was a loved 1 of yours etc.....I am not young and it has been a loved 1.
the world has gone mad, all this destruction, generally to try to extend/protect the lives of old people at a huge cost to everyone else and before all covid fascists start with the, if you were old or if its was a loved 1 of yours etc.....I am not young and it has been a loved 1.
Trialing these Vaccines tantamounts to child abuse... Very similar to the NHS Tavistock hormone blocker trials on children.
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Makes you wonder the direction of our usurped governments with SAGE in charge..... Let's all give our bodies, minds and souls over to this evil corrupt people..... Eh just say no parents... Or blood is on your hands Removed
Kate Bingham Vaccine chair claims vaccination young healthy adults could cause them some "Freak Harm"
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-10-05/Vaccinating-all-of-UK-not-going-to-happen-task-force-chair-says-UkFascrEB2/index.html
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-10-05/Vaccinating-all-of-UK-not-going-to-happen-task-force-chair-says-UkFascrEB2/index.html
Hardly child abuse! They are over 18 and volunteers. The same age as some in our armed forces and the Average age of our fighter pilots during the Battle of Britain. If we where all like you we would still have smallpox and polio. I admire them and there selfless behaviour. Will you be having the vaccine when offered?
In these exceptional, trying and deeply boring times, I find Covid a bit crappy really. I mean, it's not exactly ebola or AIDS is it? All you lot going on about Covid this, Covid that, are proper divs 100% gen.
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All the participants should be applauded for their selflessness in trying to help humanity
How about we put the politicians kids up for it first as we are always being told of our civic duty to do our bit, how better to show how to do it by sacrificing, sorry volunteering their own children to slaughter, sorry test for benefit of pharmaceutical companies, sorry mankind to make money, sorry better itself....
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Google, musk and amazon are watching very keenly at how easy people will succumb to the need to the vaccine... These massive corps have a plithra of new brain chips and bionics to trial ..... Who's first to sign up!...... Any takers...... Naw..... Oh shucks
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What?
To all anti vaxxers i say this - Applaud these young people as they are taking a risk for the benefit of the rest of mankind. I respect the anti vaxxers right to object and i don't think it's entirely fair to label them as crackpots etc.
We live (allegedly) in a liberal western democracy, therefore the other side of an arguement should be heard even if you don't agree with it.
We live (allegedly) in a liberal western democracy, therefore the other side of an arguement should be heard even if you don't agree with it.
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How about we put the politicians kids up for it first as we are always being told of our civic duty to do our bit, how better to show how to do it by sacrificing, sorry volunteering their own children to slaughter, sorry test for benefit of pharmaceutical companies, sorry mankind to make money, sorry better itself....
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Why don't you volunteer, Jackie?
Is that Herod calling?
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As Boris the Legend said today in the Telegraph: "The BBC lefty doleites on HYS are really doing me swede in. Time to cut their dole and watch them starve."
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Are you on the correct medication?
How very humane you are.
How about we put the politicians kids up for it first as we are always being told of our civic duty to do our bit, how better to show how to do it by sacrificing, sorry volunteering their own children to slaughter, sorry test for benefit of pharmaceutical companies, sorry mankind to make money, sorry better itself....
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Ha ha ha aha. World Beating tory apologist as we head toward 120,000 dead.
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This is insanity, and its being applauded? Only now are they due to start COVID trials when we are already millions vaccinated! How do they know what to vaccinate with if they don't even know what COVID is? MHRA figures already show 107 dead from and 49,472 adverse reactions to Pfizer and 34 dead from and 21,032 adverse reactions form Oxford vaccines. This is what you get when you panic and rush.
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If I had children I'd strongly encourage them to do things like rock climbing, potholing and scuba diving. But there's no way in hell I'd consent to them getting any of these vaccines.
Why don't we use Convicted Criminals or illegal immigrants?
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Heinrich Himmler is that you? I claim my £50!
Ridiculous to go down that route ...
... or it would be BBC staff next in line !
... or it would be BBC staff next in line !
THEY ALWAYS USE YOUNG PEOPLE AS LAB-RATS, CANNON-FODDER RING A BELL? 60,000 DEAD PER HOUR! YOUR COMMANDER DOUGIE NEVER CROSSED THE ENGLISH CHANNEL!
I TAKE IT THE ROYAL FAMILY THE LORDS & MP'S CHILDREN HAVE ALL TAKEN A RAIN CHECK?
HOW IS THE 1/4 MILE QUEUE IN A SNOWSTORM FOR THE SOUP KITCHEN'S DOING? THINGS LOOK SPIFFINGLY WELL THROUGH ROSE TINTED GLASSES, BREXIT'S WORKING WELL HO-HO-HO
I TAKE IT THE ROYAL FAMILY THE LORDS & MP'S CHILDREN HAVE ALL TAKEN A RAIN CHECK?
HOW IS THE 1/4 MILE QUEUE IN A SNOWSTORM FOR THE SOUP KITCHEN'S DOING? THINGS LOOK SPIFFINGLY WELL THROUGH ROSE TINTED GLASSES, BREXIT'S WORKING WELL HO-HO-HO
BOZO WAS SUSSED OUT TRYING TO SMUGGLE IT OUT VIA THE R.O.I FOR QUEENIE & THE 1% THAT RULE YOU. IT'S MADE IN BELGIUM BREXIT WAS A CON TAKING BACK CONTROL MEANT CONTROL OF YOU!
YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST DEATH RATE IN THE WORLD YOU AVERAGE 1000 DEATHS PER DAY, THESE ARE SHOCKING FIGURES CONSIDERING YOU COULD LOOSE THE UK IN TEXAS LET ALONE 7 TIMES IN THE AMAZON BASIN!
IT'S HORRIFYING MISMANAGEMENT!
YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST DEATH RATE IN THE WORLD YOU AVERAGE 1000 DEATHS PER DAY, THESE ARE SHOCKING FIGURES CONSIDERING YOU COULD LOOSE THE UK IN TEXAS LET ALONE 7 TIMES IN THE AMAZON BASIN!
IT'S HORRIFYING MISMANAGEMENT!
Irony?!
“In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”
Prince Philip, 1988.
Prince Philip, 1988.
No thanks, not until he speaks to the FBI and admits he wasn’t eating a pizza!
UK first to inject live with covid.
More like NHS drumming up business, terrified the years worth of protect the NHS is coming to and end, and they might need to start doing ops, seems most of the covid care staff were nurses and auxiliary staff, very rarely did you see a doctor in the ward nor a GP in the practice, phones calls and telling you to keep taking the pills
More like NHS drumming up business, terrified the years worth of protect the NHS is coming to and end, and they might need to start doing ops, seems most of the covid care staff were nurses and auxiliary staff, very rarely did you see a doctor in the ward nor a GP in the practice, phones calls and telling you to keep taking the pills
Russ - it k***s old people average age 82 and fat people with BMI over 30 I heard at 38 or 48% of total deaths and BMI over 40 added another 11% of total deaths - proves it k***s the frail and fatties in the main
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Is it something the virus does specifically to high BMI people that makes it more deadly, or simply that the ICU staff cannot turn them over when on ventillator as easily ?
Proof needed, as if it wasn't already obvious, that Covid is a poxy, glorified cold. Do you think they'd be deliberately infecting people with serious pathogens - say smallpox or Ebola - in "human trials"? I think not. Now the oldies are getting vaccinated and won't catch a cold again, there is literally no excuse to keep us in lockdown purgatory any longer.
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I suggest you put your question to a friend of mine who caught the virus from his grandson (a so-called 'support bubble' cross infection from when schools were re-opened) if and when he comes out of intensive care. He and his family may have views on the subject.
Why would somebody vote this down.
The ignorance astounds me. Why would we want to infect people with smallpox when the virus has been eradicated? As for Ebola, there are already 4 global human trials for an experimental vaccine - although not a human challenge trial as yet. I can personally bear witness to the fact Covid is most certainly NOT a poxy, glorified cold. The volunteers are young and healthy, known low risk for Covid.
What's the use BAMEs and Pakistanis are 50 to 70% against the vaccine whilst we are 78% for
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I am against the vaccine and Scottish. Listen once you have had the vaccine can you please just get on with your life and leave us in peace.
This is the perfect opportunity for all the people who think Covid is an elaborate hoax, perpetrated by Governments to control the people, to step up and volunteer to be infected with this imaginary virus they don't believe exists. If they have the courage of their convictions, then they have nothing to fear.
Have the volunteers been told?
Britain's vaccine task force chair, Kate Bingham, said that vaccinating everyone in the country was "not going to happen," .
Bingham told the FT that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from COVID-19, "could cause them some freak harm."
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Britain's vaccine task force chair, Kate Bingham, said that vaccinating everyone in the country was "not going to happen," .
Bingham told the FT that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from COVID-19, "could cause them some freak harm."
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Kate Bingham gov' vaccine tzar told the FT that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from COVID-19, "could cause them some freak harm."
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Great stuff. On a lighter note and a bit of humour, regarding trials - hope the younger folks find the Covid guilty and the judge sentences it to a lifetime imprisonment without any chance of parole
Its a bit late for this. They have covid treatments available in trial in the form of monoclonal antibodies - which have been used successfully on many people (including Trump). These trials should have started some time ago - if trial patients got seriously ill with covid then they could have been given monoclonal antibodies and other anti viral treatments now available.
Anyone anti vax for whatever reason, probably has no qualms about being vaccinated for anything necessary to get a visa for entry to some foreign country - especially countries where BAME people come from - so if they return 'home' anytime, they don't worry about any vaccination then. They should think on this.
Please research the open debate across the world about the draconian handling of this virus.
https://dig-id.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4c189d829f1a8bed264a5c746&id=473c9bfe9e&e=b73c35453a
https://dig-id.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4c189d829f1a8bed264a5c746&id=473c9bfe9e&e=b73c35453a
He contaminated them as he was not wearing surgical gloves. Apparently the whole room had t be fumigated after he brought loads of hs bacteria in with him and the vials were deemed unsuitable for human use, after his ungloved grubby fingers had contaminated them.
Did IQs drop during this scamdemic?
Has everyone in the MSM forgot how to challenge the naritive?
When did we vote for SAGE to run the country?
Why would you take a vaccine, when there just announced to start human trials.
I think everyone who takes a vaccine is part of a trial.
See no evil, hear no evil speak no evil.
Has everyone in the MSM forgot how to challenge the naritive?
When did we vote for SAGE to run the country?
Why would you take a vaccine, when there just announced to start human trials.
I think everyone who takes a vaccine is part of a trial.
See no evil, hear no evil speak no evil.
Deborah Geller
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How about some of the Covid-deniers coming forward to take part? Bet they wouldn't be too keen! All that 'it's just old people who get ill' would fly out of the window...!
too right lass well said
"shield the vulnerable, lets get back to normal, its just flu, everyone dies of something , what about car deaths, " etc the rubbish they talk
19:33
How about some of the Covid-deniers coming forward to take part? Bet they wouldn't be too keen! All that 'it's just old people who get ill' would fly out of the window...!
too right lass well said
"shield the vulnerable, lets get back to normal, its just flu, everyone dies of something , what about car deaths, " etc the rubbish they talk
I agree. The Panorama programme was consequently very shallow in my view being more like propaganda, like so many put out recently by BBC and often under guise of news. Similarly the attention given to Scottish First Minister who is rarely challenged and given huge coverage unwarranted in terms of numbers of population, that is less than some large metropolitan councils.