Covid-19: World's first human challenge trials to start in UK
17/02/2021 | news | health | 1,895
Healthy, young volunteers will be deliberately infected with a low dose of coronavirus.
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Hold on to your hats people.
The anti vaxxers and COVID deniers will be all over this once the drugs wear off from last night.
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Tin foil hats?
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Are there actually that many Covid-deniers though? I haven't met any. Yet it seems to be a label placed on people who acknowledge the reality of Covid but think that the measures taken to fight it have caused disproportionate harm.
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hopefully they will all fall off the edge of the flat earth on their way to the vaccination centres!!
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Ah yes these mysterious, elusive anti vaxxers and COVID deniers that are so "all over this" that the uptake in the first 4 priority groups is over 90%..
17/02/2021 14:29:40 4 7
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If you are content to take vaccinations from dodgy companies like meric, bayer etc.. you are a fool, then gaslight people who make informed choices you sir! are a edjit!
17/02/2021 14:35:56 2 1
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"the drugs wear off from last night". Ah! another reason. I thought it was because they were scared of needles but didn't want to admit it.
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Lol :)
17/02/2021 18:22:45 0 1
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And you are sober?
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How pathetic. Grow up. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:27:43 2 7
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too busy on the other thread moaning about music
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Leading as we used to !
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Brexit is done and your comment is irrelevant. And Brexit supporters wonder why they are portrayed as stupid.
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17/02/2021 11:38:03 1 4
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Maybe they're doing that seeing as their options have been seriously narrowed by narrow-minded people??
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Shortsighted
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? Well ? 'brexit' got smart overnight ? ?
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Remonaers are very angry
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Yeah, leading the way with most deaths in Europe as well, shame the virus wasn't restricted to Brexiteers
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All the participants should be applauded for their selflessness in trying to help humanity
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I keep hearing from some people Britain is a rubbish place to be, I totally disagree.
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I'd imagine they're getting paid.
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No more clapping please!
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17/02/2021 11:55:24 100 4
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Well said Belgianscot I agree 100%, it's one thing to hope you don't get the virus but another thing entirely to volunteer to contract it for the betterment of humanity.
Obviously freedom of speech means we shouldn't sterilise the people who downvoted your post. However, it's equally obvious that the quality of the population would rise if we did! Removed
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17/02/2021 11:57:42 33 14
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Never use that word Snowflake again and that's from a grumpy old git!
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yeah they are being paid..will be alot of jobless people signed up
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17/02/2021 12:12:34 47 4
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I totally agree. Although I would have preferred it if the people convinced it's a hoax that doesn't really exist were at the front of the queue for this trial..
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The highest disregards to those who downvoted this post.
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Completely agree. It is the ultimate act in trying to rid the world of this horror. I salute all of them.
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Need to be sectioned..
How about we put the politicians kids up for it first as we are always being told of our civic duty to do our bit, how better to show how to do it by sacrificing, sorry volunteering their own children to slaughter, sorry test for benefit of pharmaceutical companies, sorry mankind to make money, sorry better itself.... Removed
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On American news last year one of the people said they were getting paid about £500 to take part in these trials
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No shortage of volunteers if they start with anyone arrested at an illegal gathering
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WOW, Brits first for trials ? even before lab rats????
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they work for less
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17/02/2021 11:37:54 0 2
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Don't forget the guinea pigs too! I give it a month or so then it won't have been such a good idea after all. Another job for the goalpost movers.
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17/02/2021 11:43:29 2 1
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Not seen you for a while. What's the weather like in China?
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Lab Technitian: Well, how do you feel rat?
Rat: ikkk ikkk ikkk
Lab Technician: Ahh good, keep going then.
Rat: ik
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yeah he has decided trials after. vaccines have made some money now
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17/02/2021 13:15:08 0 0
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No, pre-clinical research precedes clinical research in all cases.
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17/02/2021 11:27:41 598 43
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Say what you want about the governments handling of this pandemic, but its clear that the UK is a global leader in the biotech industry and with that signs clear that Covid is around for a long time yet, its good to be a world leader in something again after all the doom and gloom of the last few years.
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17/02/2021 11:37:57 337 146
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The haters won't like it but I feel the UK may be a bigger player on the global scene over the next 10 years. The EU messed up with the vaccine, The Scots should have a bigger and more independent role to play within the Union. That would be far better than a independent role within a failing EU.
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UK is the vacci-NATION
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17/02/2021 11:55:53 38 64
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RE"Say what you want about the governments handling of this pandemic"
Over 100,000 deaths on there watch, is all that needs saying.
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17/02/2021 12:03:31 26 92
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Little england is crumbling.
The EU has fully vaccinated more people than the UK.
You are victim of propaganda and gambling . The UK is heading towards a dark place and you cannot see it
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17/02/2021 12:10:06 14 78
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There are something like 150 vaccines for CV-19. The UK one was one of the least effective.
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UK would be a global leader if it educated the population in science
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Well said
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A global leader in the biotech industry with companies and universities that thrived in the conditions that our EU membership created. Being able to bring in the best scientists the EU had to offer, scientific and technical cooperation throughout the EU, EU funding for scientific research.

All thrown away. Why are we doing this to ourselves?
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17/02/2021 12:42:47 6 4
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Despite its best attempts since 2016 to destroy its own science...
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It's lucky that we have a biotech industry, frankly, because the way our financial and other sectors have been chopped off at the knees by Brexit, we will need something to prop up the Treasury.
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17/02/2021 13:08:14 0 4
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or a global leader in spending billions of our taxes on something that they do not know if it works and if it does it doesnt mean we cant stop social distancing and working like usual. A world leader in corruption and lining their pockets is a lot more accurate. Tony blair pushing something again off th eback of 30 plus million in donaations from vaccine companies. Wake up!
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17/02/2021 13:12:09 1 3
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Why says the UK is a world leader. Good yes but checkout what other countries are doing before making a lopsided comment.
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17/02/2021 13:19:59 0 1
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How unfortunate then that these biotech companies don't give something back to the UK? They offshore their profits and use every loophole possible to avoid paying tax to the country that supports them and their workforce. The only reason the UK is a world leader is because we're the only country that lets companies get away with these sorts of antics.
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17/02/2021 13:22:23 2 1
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Sorry but you are somewhat taken in by the propaganda. UK has given more people partial vaccinations. It is well behind many countries at giving the double doses. Who has the best regime will only be known in the months ahead. Personally I would prefer to have the vaccinations as per the trial results which maximises protection, even if that meant waiting.
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The UK is not a global leader in the biotech industry. A few public companies are.
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17/02/2021 11:27:43 2 7
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too busy on the other thread moaning about music
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Leading as we used to !
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As we always have
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Wonderful young people.
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Unbelievable that six people found that statement objectionable enough to give it a thumbs-down. Very sad.
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getting paid
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Wonderful young people who have been paid £4,500.
17/02/2021 16:28:48 2 4
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What a pandemic we have... A virus sooooo deadly they have managed to find people who are willing to be injected with it LOL!!!
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WOW, Brits first for trials ? even before lab rats????
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17/02/2021 11:29:05 7 8
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they work for less
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17/02/2021 11:29:12 160 14
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Hats off to those that are prepared to volunteer and support the global fight against COVID. The key thing that stands out for me is that this will be performed in a "safe and controlled environment"
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17/02/2021 12:37:11 11 162
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Yeah, they are just going to spike them with covid and let them loose with no support, use your brain!
17/02/2021 14:04:18 2 10
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These volunteers are to be commended.

However, let's not forget that most countries are not doing this because they lag the UK.

It is because their ethical standards do not permit it.
17/02/2021 16:29:08 1 0
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I wonder if any of them will virtue signal
17/02/2021 16:29:52 2 2
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What a pandemic we have... A virus sooooo deadly they have managed to find people who are willing to be injected with it LOL!!!
17/02/2021 16:54:18 2 0
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"The key thing that stands out.." is a disease so dangerous to 18-30 year olds that they are injecting them with the virus to see if the vaccination works - pure Alice in Wonderland science. Most 18-30 year olds don't need the vaccine & vulnerable people who have had the vaccine don't need to be protected by requiring 18-30 yr olds to take it.
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17/02/2021 11:29:12 8 42
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Why has it taken nearly a year to do this?

Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?

The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.

We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
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17/02/2021 11:36:41 7 1
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Erm..... because it's a new virus that wasn't understood a year ago like it is now, because there were no approved vaccines a year ago, because they were focusing on particular strain(s) etc. I don't think anything could've been done any quicker than it has been. I don't think you can blame science for the Governments awful handling of this situation.
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17/02/2021 11:46:03 2 2
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The vast laboratory which is called society has already delivered over 100,000 deaths 'with' Covid in the UK alone

Yes we will do this sooner next time, be prepared for this to happen earlier in a pandemic, & learn much from experience

But stop dramatising, living nightmare?

No, we're learning as we go; back effort to the hilt

We need to be on the front foot: encourage, encourage, encourage
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17/02/2021 11:52:44 0 2
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they were hoping for herd immunity. as if people have herd immunity to cold and flu
17/02/2021 15:09:24 0 0
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Actually, if you read up on it it was being discussed back in the summer but there are a lot of implications to consider.
It's not unheard of but extremely rare. There were many vaccine volunteers begging to use challenge trials but lots of ethical hoops to jump through for approval.
Approval was given to start in January but then sufficient vaccine data came out & they weren't needed then.
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17/02/2021 11:29:14 16 3
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Brexit is done and your comment is irrelevant. And Brexit supporters wonder why they are portrayed as stupid.
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I don't get it...... are you trying to be funny?
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How will they know if they've got it though?? Because apparently now everything from a headache to a runny bottom could potentially be Covid…??!

World's gone absolutely mad... can't believe people are still just lying back and accepting it!
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Can't believe there's still people like you who think the world has stopped for a "hoax"
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How will they know? It's called Science. Perhaps you were asleep during those lessons in school?
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We have to accept your thoughts which is a shame
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Britain leading the way again. Thanks to Brexit, hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved. Meanwhile, the EU have been like snails, out of the starting blocks.
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17/02/2021 11:35:43 16 9
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Nothing to do with brexit. Nothing to do with the EU, any country could have negotiated its own vaccine deals. Very little to do with Bo Jo and his mates. Almost entirely down to the NHS and our world class medical researchers.
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Conratulations. Youve found the one benefit we have had since January.
Now stop obsessing over it and start considering the mess its causing with everything else.
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UK still has open borders with EU ...no Covid test for arrivals
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We already have considerable data coming in from all those medical staff and elderly people who have had vaccines. So far no major problems have been noted. Expanding with a trial on younger people makes sense.
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Where is the report saying no injuries. That's not the one I've seen.
17/02/2021 16:12:58 3 7
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A disease so dangerous to 18-30 year olds that they are injecting them with the virus to see if the vaccination works. This is Alice in Wonderland science. 18-30 year olds don't need the vaccine & people who have had the vaccine don't need to be protected by requiring that 18-30 yr olds also take it.
17/02/2021 21:57:08 0 1
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Over 500 deaths in the U.S.. I thought all lives mattered?
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who said there's no job opportunities for young people nowdays....
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17/02/2021 11:31:11 87 9
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The more vaccines we have available, the sooner we can get them rolled out to the whole population. And the greater chance we have of combatting any new strains. Challenge trials are a great way to speed up the vaccine process.
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This is the insane rabbit hole that we have been chased down by the SAGE voodoo scientists: the development of vaccines for the 99% of the population not at any risk whatsoever from this virus.
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Why has it taken nearly a year to do this?

Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?

The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.

We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
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You missed out being allowed to breed as well!
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Hold on to your hats people.
The anti vaxxers and COVID deniers will be all over this once the drugs wear off from last night.
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Tin foil hats?
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Just give me the jab, so I can leave this country asap
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No arguments there!
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Bye bye - Don’t come back ??
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17/02/2021 11:59:39 1 2
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Bye, then.
Human Trials commenced the moment people started getting the vaccine. CDC (USA) data indicates 903 deaths shortly after receipt of dose 1. 10,400 hospital admissions - just because that happened soon after no one can swear on the bible it was directly caused by injection of foreign bodies. That data is the data from all states. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:37:59 10 2
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What did you expect? If you vaccinate all the very old and Ill people first, obviously a significant proportion of them will die or get Ill enough to be hospitalised soon after administration - and it is very likely the vast majority would have died or been admitted had they not been vaccinated.
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17/02/2021 11:45:07 2 1
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Wrong again. Get your facts and statistics straight. When vaccinating a population you can expect a proportion of them to die / be taken ill due to unrelated causes within a short time. The figures show that there were no excess deaths amongst the vaccinated groups.
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How will they know if they've got it though?? Because apparently now everything from a headache to a runny bottom could potentially be Covid…??!

World's gone absolutely mad... can't believe people are still just lying back and accepting it!
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Can't believe there's still people like you who think the world has stopped for a "hoax"
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17/02/2021 12:00:55 0 1
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He didn't say it was a hoax.
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:39:06 17 2
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I would love to hear you explain how it is drivel, I do of course expect you to back up any arguments with proven facts and with any luck experience and education in the field that you are debating.
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17/02/2021 11:40:07 8 1
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Conspiracy drivel.
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17/02/2021 11:40:39 6 1
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Sent any troll e-mails recently?
And you are exactly the sort of cretin most people on here are commenting on! Removed
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17/02/2021 11:43:36 4 1
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Shame youre too young to volunteer
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17/02/2021 11:58:09 0 1
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Fat Fur Rant...do shut up, please - the Vaccines are not drivel and it is or should be criminal for you to say so
Thank goodness normal people will not take notice, and while no doubt you delight in possibly swaying the vulnerable, susceptible...your attitude, mindset and comment are all inappropriate, - shame on you
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17/02/2021 11:52:24 0 1
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Firstly I believe the word you were looking for was efficacious. Secondly the word drivel means nonsense , which is not something you inject . It is something that can spew from a persons mouth,something that you seem extremely qualified in being able to do. Not very eloquently.
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While these heroes, that’s what they are, volunteer to help this vital research for the sake of all of us, the contemptible, selfish, vile conspiracy lunatics try their utmost to harm and kill people.
What a contrast.
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Spot on Twentyman, I'm tired of reading their trite trashing of all things good, & the efforts of others making a positive difference
I'm starting to wish for a society which works on problems & seeks to solve them; yes I want a broad church, - but also a society which identifies in person those trolling etc hiding behind alias - & a society which denies them the platform & roundly condemns them
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What do you suggest should be done with those people with whom you disagree? How about concentrating them in one place - only for their own safety, and others, of course. And that's only until a final solution can be found about what to do with these "contemptible, selfish, vile conspiracy lunatics"....
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its ok Covid is not that dangerous for them age groups
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I think rather than ask for volunteers. They should have taken some from the big groups that have been breaking the lockdown rules. Clearly they do not think there is such a risk from Covid.
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17/02/2021 12:42:24 1 1
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And who are they. Evidence. Looking at the history of the pandemic look closer to home for the culprits why UK has such a high death toll.
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They are being paid well for the research trials since so many are jobless now
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i am only surprised this study wasnt part of the actual vaccine approval / release process
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17/02/2021 13:52:39 2 6
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YOU, in fact, are more dangerous than the people you disagree with, because you can't see beyond your own views to the consequences of what those views, if acted upon, could lead to. And its frightening how many people agree with you. You can see how easy it was for the National Socialists to take over in 1930's Germany.
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17/02/2021 14:04:29 1 0
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Yes, but thankfully there are less of these idiots than there are us and hopefully all us sane and sensible people can guide those swayed by such people to the correct path. Perhaps there should be a low for those who don't isolate and knowingly spread the disease - if this virus were a gun or a knife it and I tried to harm you with it, it would be attempted murder...now there's a thought!
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17/02/2021 14:25:00 3 1
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Weird that not a single antivaxxer that harps on how our own bodies should deal with viruses, vaccines are evil etc hasn't signed up!
17/02/2021 14:33:55 3 1
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Absolutely. I sometimes suspect that the vaccine deniers are just scared of needles and can't admit it.
17/02/2021 14:49:20 2 1
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Vaccine volunteers - heroes
Nurses - heroes
Bus drivers - heroes
Person who held door open for me - hero
Person who liked this comment - hero
Bloke reading this picking his nose - hero

Can we stop with all this hero-worshiping please. There is no such thing, we are all just normal people doing what we can.
17/02/2021 15:39:23 0 6
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Won't be so smug if your kids start giving birth to freaks, will you? Testing should be done, and externally verified, on lab rats first
17/02/2021 16:46:27 1 1
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Show me evidence of one death caused by conspiracy lunatics. A false statement driven by vile hatred of anyone with an opinion other than yours I think.
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I know. it's horrific. and some of them wear badges that say "constable" on them. we really should wise up
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
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What can the government do about it?
I concur with both your points. The nasty self-righteous Guardianistas who trolled Sir Tom are utterly worthless and pathetic individuals. Removed
Social media sites need to sort out their sites to block all nasty comments. It is there responsibility Removed
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17/02/2021 11:44:35 11 19
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Lots of people do charity work.

"Universally cherished" is you projecting.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Social media is responsible for terrible abuse and fake news. It's obvious that the likes of FB, twitter and the like, are unable or unwilling to control use. So the UK gov should legislate to enforce removal of all anonymity. Nothing should be posted online that you wouldn't say in a court of law.
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17/02/2021 11:50:10 10 32
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The blue to deep blue colour of government since 2010 has encouraged this type of trolling, hate and distrust of each other.

It's been part of their disinformation, divide and conquer campaign (aided by their MMS outlets) in order to split and weaken society.

Except too many are too dumb in not noticing that.
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17/02/2021 11:43:18 13 6
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Maybe point out to 'Tom' that our Healthcare is Not a charity - it's a governmentl responsibility.
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"Govt. please sort this behaviour, now"

Yeah, let's have the governemnt telling us what we can and can't say and what we must and mustn't like.

I think that's what St. Tom fought against in WWII
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17/02/2021 12:02:33 1 4
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They are making billion obviously they will
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Pharmaceutical industry is making billions from all this
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They were racists calling it 'white privilege' etc!

The BBC were deadly quiet on that though!
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17/02/2021 12:37:44 5 3
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Isn't that the Sir Tom who went on holiday abroad at Christmas when everyone else was banned from travelling? After booking a hotel and train journey, the lockdown was imposed and consequently I spent Christmas day alone 200 miles away from my family.
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That's your idea of freedom of speech? The govt should "sort out" those who opinions about Sir Tom don't match yours? That's a frightening idea!
At first I thought you meant Tom Jones, but that's not unusual;)
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agreed
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17/02/2021 14:26:00 3 0
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Perhaps his family shouldn't have taken him to the Caribbean at Christmas. NHS isn't a charity either, government underfunding
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What a thread!

People gibbering about "trolls" as if some made up beings from little kiddies fairy books are actually real in their minds!

Some even demanding the goverment do something about these fictional beings!

All of course utterly OFF TOPIC on a news story about people willing to risk their health for the benefit of us all.

Makes me wonder why they doing it for such a backwards society!
17/02/2021 14:54:09 3 0
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Nobody "trolled" Captain Tom and family. They just decided that their feelings were hurt by all the people correctly pointing out that it was pretty poor of them to gallivant across the world and constantly wring out PR opportunities while the rest of us were trying our best to follow rules and advice.
17/02/2021 16:26:54 0 0
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Govt can't do anything, but surely it's not beyond the wit of man to hunt these buggers down and expose them for the grease spots they are

It's about time trolls were made to go back under their bridges (not, I'm sure that any one of them would be capable of wiping its own a***, let alone build a bridge) or expect to be trampled
17/02/2021 18:08:41 0 1
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Tom was reduced to nothing more than an instrument of the government's propaganda machine. I feel sorry for him, he actually risked his life fighting in a war for our freedoms, or at least thought he did.
Well done, you have demonstrated why it is dangerous to allow everyone a vote and a driving license. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:34:28 4 1
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You missed out being allowed to breed as well!
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17/02/2021 11:29:25 30 38
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Britain leading the way again. Thanks to Brexit, hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved. Meanwhile, the EU have been like snails, out of the starting blocks.
Please do not feed the troll. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:35:12 215 24
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Should be fine for volunteers .....plenty of people say it doesn't exist so they should be front of the queue ...easy money for them ......they will be there any minute now
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17/02/2021 11:38:50 135 12
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I don’t think it is easy money. I applaud those who do volunteers.
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17/02/2021 11:42:20 7 31
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And according to half the population, they'll instantly die as Rona is so deadly. ??
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17/02/2021 11:47:20 23 3
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A good point well made. If Covid is a hoax then let the anti vaxxers line up to get infected and see what happens. One caveat - if they get sick they're on their own, isolated from anyone else and no or little hospital care, then they can tell us all how they got on afterwards. Perhaps they can use their coughed up lung as a full stop in their report...
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17/02/2021 11:40:39 3 9
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Trials in the UK started in January. I know that because I got letters twice saying 'you've been randomly selected' and the only offer was a £10 voucher for use in various establishments including Primarque and ASDA. I politely declined. Smart alec comments about people who make a choice you don't like fly in the wintry sea air.
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17/02/2021 12:06:33 2 2
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Ha! I'm afraid they're all off moaning about something else now, too busy
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17/02/2021 12:01:36 1 2
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i would assume they will be paid well and also alot of jobless people will have signed up
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17/02/2021 12:32:11 4 0
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Not a chance. Those people will either run a mile, or claim that they are being given some other virus to turn them into law abiding conformists. They think it makes them look important or relevant, whereas in fact they are simply losers.
lsg
17/02/2021 14:20:00 2 0
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Not easy money if you end up with long Covid
CT
17/02/2021 16:13:42 0 0
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Yep. I'm a celebrity (denier), get it into me!
17/02/2021 16:28:14 1 0
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It is of very little risk to young people. That is why only young people are being used. I’m 60 and they wouldn’t accept me
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17/02/2021 11:29:25 30 38
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Britain leading the way again. Thanks to Brexit, hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved. Meanwhile, the EU have been like snails, out of the starting blocks.
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17/02/2021 11:35:43 16 9
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Nothing to do with brexit. Nothing to do with the EU, any country could have negotiated its own vaccine deals. Very little to do with Bo Jo and his mates. Almost entirely down to the NHS and our world class medical researchers.
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17/02/2021 11:49:24 3 2
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Most of the EU countries didn’t did they. It has a lot to do with the Government, who do you think put millions into research, who placed orders for a number of different vaccines etc - the Government so credit where credit is due.
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17/02/2021 11:51:06 4 3
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So when the NHS does well its because of the NHS. But, when the NHS does badly, it's because of Boris.

But to correct you, it was our present Goverment who decided NOT to go with the EU procurement plan which has enabled us to go quicker. SO, sorry, but every thing to do with "Bo Jo" and his mates.
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17/02/2021 11:29:12 8 42
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Why has it taken nearly a year to do this?

Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?

The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.

We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
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17/02/2021 11:36:41 7 1
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Erm..... because it's a new virus that wasn't understood a year ago like it is now, because there were no approved vaccines a year ago, because they were focusing on particular strain(s) etc. I don't think anything could've been done any quicker than it has been. I don't think you can blame science for the Governments awful handling of this situation.
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17/02/2021 11:36:54 5 41
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Yes, probably a good idea to check the AZ vaccine works now it's been given to 15 million.
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17/02/2021 11:43:47 3 2
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It hasn't, a lot of those are pizer doses
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17/02/2021 11:42:00 1 1
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What do you think the Trials were?

I despair.
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17/02/2021 12:01:42 1 1
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I had a double dose of it for the trial in May/June.

I have grown a couple of extra arms, but actually very beneficial being able to hold my phone and wipe my bum at the same time.

Haven't had Covid yet either.
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17/02/2021 11:51:29 0 1
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it doesn't they will have to update it soon
What does this say about the wimps who refuse to have the vaccine.
I despair.
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17/02/2021 11:43:24 28 133
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It says they've managed without for over a year and can easily manage another.
I wash my hands.
I think what you'll find chap is that most healthcare professionals are looking on with cynicism as we all are in the know that rushed vaccines like this, particularly politically-driven vaccination programmes, are largely a waste of time.

Hard hitting vaccines that work efficaciously take many years to develop and test and even then some people don't respond with enough antibodies.
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17/02/2021 11:55:07 14 22
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There is nothing wimpish about being hesitant to take a type of vaccine (mRNA - Pfizer and Moderna) that has never been approved for use in humans before. Autoimmune reactions can take several months if not years to manifest, so at this stage we simply cannot say whether these vaccines are safe long term.
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17/02/2021 11:57:16 11 14
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Wow how judgemental of you. Just because people don't have the vaccine it doesn't make them a wimp it means they're quite happy to rely on their immune system whilst waiting to see what the long term effects of the vaccine are on the virtuous
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17/02/2021 15:23:09 1 0
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Why do you have to be so tribal and childish. I am not in the at-risk category and I already had Covid. I will not take the experimental MRNA therapy until the results are proven. There is a reason why Pfizer and Moderna have been indemnified against side effects. That does not make me any more or less wimpish, it makes me rational.
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17/02/2021 11:37:49 0 41
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If this is first human trial.... how do they know that the current vaccines actually work and that previous trials werent just full of people who didnt actually come into contact with covid ?
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17/02/2021 11:39:55 7 3
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Doh! Maybe that’s what they are trying to discover
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17/02/2021 11:43:22 0 1
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Do you not understand the concept of double blind trials?
With significantly improved outcomes for those given the vaccine compared to those given placebo
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17/02/2021 11:41:24 1 1
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Read about it and don't bother everybody else with nonsense.
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17/02/2021 11:56:34 0 1
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Misread, this is the first for YOUNG healthy volunteers
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17/02/2021 11:26:52 6 25
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WOW, Brits first for trials ? even before lab rats????
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17/02/2021 11:37:54 0 2
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Don't forget the guinea pigs too! I give it a month or so then it won't have been such a good idea after all. Another job for the goalpost movers.
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17/02/2021 11:27:41 598 43
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Say what you want about the governments handling of this pandemic, but its clear that the UK is a global leader in the biotech industry and with that signs clear that Covid is around for a long time yet, its good to be a world leader in something again after all the doom and gloom of the last few years.
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17/02/2021 11:37:57 337 146
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The haters won't like it but I feel the UK may be a bigger player on the global scene over the next 10 years. The EU messed up with the vaccine, The Scots should have a bigger and more independent role to play within the Union. That would be far better than a independent role within a failing EU.
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17/02/2021 11:55:08 47 17
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When the Scots leadership can show they can manage their country effectively maybe. But right now with missing money and failing health and education and attacks on free speech in the home. No way.
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17/02/2021 11:55:52 11 72
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Whoppee....
Doesn't matter about people dying or suffering.

The important thing is to belong to the tribe that is winning. The virus has been a great chance for our magnificent tribe to prove it is the best,

Covid is the best thing that ever happened to this country.
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17/02/2021 11:56:17 42 43
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You and your lot are the haters.
You damaged your country for a whim and a craving to feel important.
And stop pretending that your motives were different.
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17/02/2021 12:00:19 39 47
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You'll have a long time waiting, chap.

We've had BREXIT before - all the way up until 1972.

And that is why we joined Europe to escape the ruinous insanity.
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17/02/2021 12:29:48 7 2
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The EU really did badly mess up with the Vaccine procurement. The UK and US for once invested early in the vaccines and should reap the benefits. Sadly both of the countries totally messed up the other policies.
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17/02/2021 12:40:18 6 6
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A typical brexiteer statement I suppose the UK is world leader with almost 120,000 deaths. Don't judge a government by the skill of its scientists. Judge a Govt on its actions in a crisis and this lot have been found wanting. Why am I not surprised Johnson and his crew are trying steal scientists thunder. Still his supporters will continue to make excuses. Note also another PR stunt today.
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17/02/2021 12:49:45 5 0
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I agree- and I think there needs to be some sort of European trading block that is just for trade not political union. The danger with the EU project is its a sort of one size fits all approach. Political union suits the small nations, but isn't something that everyone wants. The UK could be a leader in free trade outside of the EU, also allowing states within the UK a high degree of freedom.
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17/02/2021 13:20:09 0 1
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Vaccine nationalism is stupid and will ultimately backfire.
Human Trials commenced the moment people started getting the vaccine. CDC (USA) data indicates 903 deaths shortly after receipt of dose 1. 10,400 hospital admissions - just because that happened soon after no one can swear on the bible it was directly caused by injection of foreign bodies. That data is the data from all states. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:37:59 10 2
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What did you expect? If you vaccinate all the very old and Ill people first, obviously a significant proportion of them will die or get Ill enough to be hospitalised soon after administration - and it is very likely the vast majority would have died or been admitted had they not been vaccinated.
The is UK first again. Well, remoaners? Removed
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17/02/2021 11:38:03 1 4
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Maybe they're doing that seeing as their options have been seriously narrowed by narrow-minded people??
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17/02/2021 11:27:41 598 43
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Say what you want about the governments handling of this pandemic, but its clear that the UK is a global leader in the biotech industry and with that signs clear that Covid is around for a long time yet, its good to be a world leader in something again after all the doom and gloom of the last few years.
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17/02/2021 11:38:18 28 30
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UK is the vacci-NATION
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17/02/2021 11:29:25 30 38
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Britain leading the way again. Thanks to Brexit, hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved. Meanwhile, the EU have been like snails, out of the starting blocks.
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17/02/2021 11:38:35 6 9
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Conratulations. Youve found the one benefit we have had since January.
Now stop obsessing over it and start considering the mess its causing with everything else.
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17/02/2021 11:46:57 2 2
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Though we could have give for emergency approval even if we had still been in the EU. Looks like it's back to just blue passports again...
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17/02/2021 11:48:42 2 3
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Sorry, had to mark you down as its got nothing to do with January's debacle. But I agree that we should dissociate all talk of Covid from talk of brexit. They are totally unrelated topics.
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17/02/2021 11:35:12 215 24
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Should be fine for volunteers .....plenty of people say it doesn't exist so they should be front of the queue ...easy money for them ......they will be there any minute now
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17/02/2021 11:38:50 135 12
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I don’t think it is easy money. I applaud those who do volunteers.
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17/02/2021 11:48:52 33 2
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I've got a feeling Sloogy meant it's easy money cos in the eyes of the anti vaxxers because to them it doesn't exist
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17/02/2021 12:38:03 0 2
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How are these people going to "do" these volunteers?
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17/02/2021 13:37:23 0 0
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It is not easy money. In a different context I volunteered for 14 years. And it got harder and harder, until death and my breakdown which I am still suffering after a further 5 years. There will be some who will say aww bless but try it.
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17/02/2021 13:48:00 1 2
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They’re NOT getting paid. Anyone volunteering for this must be completely crazy...
The is UK first again. Well, remoaners? Removed
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17/02/2021 11:39:01 0 1
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Shortsighted
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:39:06 17 2
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I would love to hear you explain how it is drivel, I do of course expect you to back up any arguments with proven facts and with any luck experience and education in the field that you are debating.
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17/02/2021 11:34:04 185 26
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
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17/02/2021 11:39:53 48 16
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What can the government do about it?
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17/02/2021 12:00:35 30 7
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Well Police Scotland arrested the guy in Lanark that tweeted the picture of Sir Tom with "the only good British Soldier is a dead British Soldier" and charged him under the new Hate Crime Act.

He'll get the book thrown at him, whilst we should have freedom of speech in the country and i'm all for freedom of speech. You have to draw the line somewhere and frankly i hope he gets his just desserts
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17/02/2021 12:12:28 3 6
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No doubt the bleeding hearts will decide that despicable trolling is a 'disability'. I'd just call them nutters (same thing?).
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17/02/2021 12:28:33 8 3
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Easy - either send the trolls to jail or shut down the platforms. Who of any intelligence would really care if there was no social media?
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17/02/2021 13:40:21 0 3
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Find them, picture them, publish them, and let the papers know. The Gov't already know them but are too scared to publish and be damned.
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17/02/2021 13:54:59 0 2
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They could make it easier to track people down, when they're suspected of a crime (in this case harasment), but hidden behind an on-line alias. Obviously, I wouldn't want to see routine monitoring of people's behaviour on-line. But when something is reported to the Police, and it is considered illegal behaviour, it shouldn't be so hard to track them down.
17/02/2021 17:26:50 0 0
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Legislate that all of us cannot post items on the Internet (just like anywhere else) without giving their legal name. No more hiding behind aliases. If you say something libellous you can end up in court: good. If you post false news, then we know who did it.
17/02/2021 19:34:44 0 0
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Make money out of it for their mates
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17/02/2021 19:35:11 0 0
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10 years in prison
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17/02/2021 11:37:49 0 41
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If this is first human trial.... how do they know that the current vaccines actually work and that previous trials werent just full of people who didnt actually come into contact with covid ?
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17/02/2021 11:39:55 7 3
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Doh! Maybe that’s what they are trying to discover
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:40:07 8 1
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Conspiracy drivel.
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17/02/2021 11:29:05 5 55
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How will they know if they've got it though?? Because apparently now everything from a headache to a runny bottom could potentially be Covid…??!

World's gone absolutely mad... can't believe people are still just lying back and accepting it!
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17/02/2021 11:40:14 7 1
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How will they know? It's called Science. Perhaps you were asleep during those lessons in school?
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17/02/2021 11:47:09 1 1
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School, he was probably expelled which could be why he thinks like a 3 year old.
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17/02/2021 11:40:39 6 1
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Sent any troll e-mails recently?
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17/02/2021 11:40:42 149 13
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Hats off to everyone who volunteers. We're all proud of you. Thank you for showing that the younger generation wants to do its bit. Not everyone is as selfish as the minority that grabs the media attention
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17/02/2021 11:45:59 69 203
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Do it's bit???? They've been doing their bit being locked up for a year to protect the 0.5%
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its ok they are being paid
17/02/2021 18:26:08 0 1
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I would call 30 people a minority.
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17/02/2021 11:34:04 185 26
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
I concur with both your points. The nasty self-righteous Guardianistas who trolled Sir Tom are utterly worthless and pathetic individuals. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:46:41 7 7
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Not sure who these guardianistas are, is that another name for alt right because studies show that these are the generally more likely to be trolls.
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17/02/2021 11:47:27 9 11
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The people giving the thumbs down to this must be pathetic trolls
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17/02/2021 11:51:46 13 11
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I read the Guardian comments daily, always wise to know what your enemy is up to. And yes, lefties really do hate the UK and anyone who stands up for it. At the moment they are attacking Sir Keir for being patriotic! The UK is a wonderful country, the best in the world. And these young volunteers indicate that is going to be the case for a long time to come!
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17/02/2021 11:40:47 123 7
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Those brave volunteers who take part in this project will surely earn not only this country's respect & gratitude, but the rest of the world as well.
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Except from the EU......
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17/02/2021 12:42:31 1 15
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Remoaners will dislike them for this and the fact they are being paid
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17/02/2021 11:40:50 1 15
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"Healthy, young volunteers will be infected with coronavirus to test vaccines and treatments in the world's first Covid-19 "human challenge" study, which will take place in the UK"

I thought that was Bojos plan from day 1 already? On a more serious note, with our "world beating track & trace" surely we have enough data on this already?
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17/02/2021 11:43:54 4 1
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You haven't read the article, have you?
Let's hope the new vaccine design based on these new trials will be more effacious than the current drivel they're injecting currently. Removed
And you are exactly the sort of cretin most people on here are commenting on! Removed
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
Social media sites need to sort out their sites to block all nasty comments. It is there responsibility Removed
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17/02/2021 11:36:11 1 12
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Hopefully with these trials they can eliminate the common cold corona virus too
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17/02/2021 11:48:10 5 3
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Ignorant. The common cold isn't a coronavirus - it's a rhinovirus. A different virus.
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17/02/2021 11:35:12 215 24
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Should be fine for volunteers .....plenty of people say it doesn't exist so they should be front of the queue ...easy money for them ......they will be there any minute now
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17/02/2021 11:42:20 7 31
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And according to half the population, they'll instantly die as Rona is so deadly. ??
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17/02/2021 11:42:43 4 16
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Britain or rather England in the forefront again. Macron/Sturgeon eat your heart out.
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17/02/2021 11:47:43 2 1
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Bedroom warriors won't get any thanks.
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17/02/2021 11:43:01 11 15
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I do not understand this yearning to "lead the world"

The UK has the highest number of deaths from COVID of any country in Europe

It seems that the government is attempting to make up for previous mistakes regarding lock down last year
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17/02/2021 11:45:26 10 6
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Aye.

117,000 is nothing to be proud of.
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17/02/2021 11:52:20 3 3
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Belgium & Slovenia have fared worse, Czech Republic has same number of deaths as the UK and Italy and Portugal aren't far behind. Of course, that's using the metric which actually makes more sense for comparisons (deaths per million population) rather than outright number of deaths which is a useless comparison as the UK has the second highest population in Europe.
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17/02/2021 11:37:49 0 41
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If this is first human trial.... how do they know that the current vaccines actually work and that previous trials werent just full of people who didnt actually come into contact with covid ?
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17/02/2021 11:43:22 0 1
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Do you not understand the concept of double blind trials?
With significantly improved outcomes for those given the vaccine compared to those given placebo
What does this say about the wimps who refuse to have the vaccine.
I despair.
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17/02/2021 11:43:24 28 133
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It says they've managed without for over a year and can easily manage another.
I wash my hands.
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17/02/2021 11:56:01 9 4
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I wash my hands of you!
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17/02/2021 11:58:30 17 4
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For a vaccine to be effective it requires critical mass. Unless and until that is achieved dont be surprised at new variants that will pick on anti vaxers
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17/02/2021 12:21:43 3 5
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Unfortunately anti-vax folks who offer up their bodies as incubators for this virus rather are giving the virus an extra chance to mutate. The difference between them and the people in this experiment is that the experiment is controlled. The anti-vaxers are putting everyone else at risk.
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17/02/2021 12:35:03 1 1
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More brains washed than hands this year.
17/02/2021 14:32:27 0 0
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Washing your hands won't stop you inhaling viral particles though.
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17/02/2021 11:26:52 6 25
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WOW, Brits first for trials ? even before lab rats????
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17/02/2021 11:43:29 2 1
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Not seen you for a while. What's the weather like in China?
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17/02/2021 11:43:36 4 1
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Shame youre too young to volunteer
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17/02/2021 11:36:54 5 41
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Yes, probably a good idea to check the AZ vaccine works now it's been given to 15 million.
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17/02/2021 11:43:47 3 2
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It hasn't, a lot of those are pizer doses
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17/02/2021 11:40:50 1 15
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"Healthy, young volunteers will be infected with coronavirus to test vaccines and treatments in the world's first Covid-19 "human challenge" study, which will take place in the UK"

I thought that was Bojos plan from day 1 already? On a more serious note, with our "world beating track & trace" surely we have enough data on this already?
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17/02/2021 11:43:54 4 1
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You haven't read the article, have you?
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17/02/2021 11:43:59 2 7
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What I'd like to know is how on earth, considering extensive mask use/social distancing & pretty much everything being closed in Nov/Dec, we ended up with 50% more people in hospital this Dec/Jan than we did last Mar/Apr. This article says the trial study is using the original Covid strain 'which is of low risk to healthy adults'...is it the case that the newer strains are more dangerous after all
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17/02/2021 11:48:29 3 2
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Nobody in their right mind would want a high risk volunteer to take part in this project.
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17/02/2021 11:50:30 2 1
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Christmas super spreader events, millions bending the rules and not taking it seriously? Have you been to any public space like a supermarket recently? Shop alone we are told... How many go as a couple or family or house - 2-3 people and sprogs running riot touching everything. Numpties wearing masks on their chin so they can talk on the phone, not keeping more than 50cm apart.
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17/02/2021 13:11:05 0 0
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Trial is ethically reviewed. Participants are consenting and meet criteria. Benefit to society is large, risk to individuals is small. Get informed.
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17/02/2021 11:44:10 5 27
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Lock up the young people and then use them as lab rats! So the government did have a strategy all along! ???????
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17/02/2021 11:47:55 9 2
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Which part of "trial volunteers" did you miss?
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17/02/2021 11:48:22 0 1
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Erm lab rats dont have a choice . Sit down
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17/02/2021 11:48:40 2 1
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Lab rats? Disgusting.
The rats are the brain-dead conspiracy theorists who are spreading this deadly virus.
Why are you so stupid? Removed
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
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17/02/2021 11:44:35 11 19
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Lots of people do charity work.

"Universally cherished" is you projecting.
17/02/2021 13:57:16 0 0
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While that's true. It's also true, that he managed to raise a considerable amount of money. That has earned him the respect of a great many people, although the fact that he was attacked by on-line trolls proves that it wasn't universal respect.
17/02/2021 15:46:51 0 0
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You appear to be the one projecting. Or perhaps you don't know what it means...
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"the study will use the virus that has been circulating in the UK since the pandemic began in March, ?? which is of low risk to healthy adults?? , to deliberately infect volunteers."

All this fear/hysteria and social + economic destruction for a low risk bug and now they want to jab the kids....basically everyone............follow the money and who's gaining more control from all this!
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17/02/2021 11:47:30 6 2
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It's low risk to healthy adults, hence why many don't know they had it and pass it on to people who are vulnerable, hence why we have had something upwards of 120k excess deaths in the UK

Follow what money? The money going to vaccine firms to deliver a vaccine to protect the vulnerable

Who is gaining control? Why not say and provide evidence not Do YoUr ReSeArCh?
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17/02/2021 11:49:33 0 1
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Get out there Damien and do your stuff! We need 666 volunteers and guess who won't be one of them - LOL!
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17/02/2021 11:54:15 0 2
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I have a small business that sells custom fit tin foil hats. Business is booming, but I can always fit you in. DM me for details.
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17/02/2021 11:46:37 1 2
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Low risk that's killed 120,000 people despite lock downs.
Clueless.
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17/02/2021 12:32:14 0 0
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Stop spreading disinformation. I thought you had people in the Thorn Corporation to do that for you?
Human Trials commenced the moment people started getting the vaccine. CDC (USA) data indicates 903 deaths shortly after receipt of dose 1. 10,400 hospital admissions - just because that happened soon after no one can swear on the bible it was directly caused by injection of foreign bodies. That data is the data from all states. Removed
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Wrong again. Get your facts and statistics straight. When vaccinating a population you can expect a proportion of them to die / be taken ill due to unrelated causes within a short time. The figures show that there were no excess deaths amongst the vaccinated groups.
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17/02/2021 11:26:35 873 57
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All the participants should be applauded for their selflessness in trying to help humanity
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17/02/2021 11:45:10 489 74
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I keep hearing from some people Britain is a rubbish place to be, I totally disagree.
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17/02/2021 12:02:35 20 127
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It is rubbish. We living in a nanny state where people need to take instructions via the TV set because they have no brains.
The Marxists will hate you for that comment Removed
The uk is great if you ignore

The racists who voted for Brexit

The fact that we have a terrible, inexperienced populist leader whose dither & failures have cost 10,000s British lives

The fact that most of the far right hate group "Britain First" joined the Tory party after the election last year to try to keep this buffoon in power

The years of hurt & pain that lie ahead of us due to Brexit
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17/02/2021 12:14:38 23 73
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The uk is indeed a rubbish place to live. Propaganda, racists and bigots, this is what we have become. And this is only the beginning
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17/02/2021 12:20:50 37 13
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It’s obviously not a rubbish place to be but it’s far from being the world beating country that some politicians try to sell us. It’s not all or nothing. There are some great things here but boy we could learn so much from our neighbours too if we were not so self obsessed with our supposedly world beating claims. Well done to the volunteers.
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17/02/2021 12:23:27 15 8
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It isn't as good as it used to be.
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17/02/2021 12:27:05 11 28
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We are ruled by lying incompetent elitists. We have nothing for anyone to be jealous of.
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17/02/2021 12:32:06 1 5
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Relevance? I hear that Scandinavia is nice but that's got f-all to do with this!
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17/02/2021 11:43:01 11 15
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I do not understand this yearning to "lead the world"

The UK has the highest number of deaths from COVID of any country in Europe

It seems that the government is attempting to make up for previous mistakes regarding lock down last year
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17/02/2021 11:45:26 10 6
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Aye.

117,000 is nothing to be proud of.
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17/02/2021 11:45:39 3 8
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Brave, the rest of the world would clap their hands and welcome Brits FIRST this time for trials for safety issues

Please, the people in the rest of the world, stand out of your houses at 8pm every Thursday and clap hands please
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17/02/2021 11:53:40 4 2
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oh give the clapoganda a rest !
I will instead doff my cap to the volunteers.
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17/02/2021 11:32:38 8 27
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Just give me the jab, so I can leave this country asap
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17/02/2021 11:45:54 2 4
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No arguments there!
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17/02/2021 11:40:42 149 13
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Hats off to everyone who volunteers. We're all proud of you. Thank you for showing that the younger generation wants to do its bit. Not everyone is as selfish as the minority that grabs the media attention
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17/02/2021 11:45:59 69 203
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Do it's bit???? They've been doing their bit being locked up for a year to protect the 0.5%
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17/02/2021 11:57:05 28 12
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Check yoru maths, 19 million vulnerable isnt 0.5%
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17/02/2021 12:08:16 25 12
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We have all been doing our bit on that one, and there’s 110,000 people we couldn’t protect from death. And four times as many whose lives have been ruined by long Covid
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17/02/2021 12:10:16 12 9
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And another one outs their hand up - behind a cloak of annonymity of course!
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17/02/2021 12:18:57 21 10
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You say 0.5% like the lives of the vulnerable don't matter. How about some empathy for a change? Too narcissistic for that?
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17/02/2021 12:19:50 28 9
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Get a brain.

Lockdowns are to protect the 100%, not to keep old people alive.

Lockdown prevents hospitals and health care being overloaded with COVID patients. If that happens then the under 50's will start dying of treatable conditions like flu, cancer, accidents etc.

The alternative is not to treat anyone with COVID in hospital and to just let them die in pain at home. Not ethically viable.
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17/02/2021 12:33:56 2 2
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Stop spreading disinformation
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17/02/2021 12:35:08 6 0
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Protecting the 0.5% is as important as protecting the remaining 99.5%.
Everybody has been dealing with lock down in one way or another, some to greater or lesser degree.
So please don't make it look like the younger generation have done more "of their bit" than others.
However, hats off to those volunteering for this important phase of Coronavirus development.
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17/02/2021 13:01:21 1 1
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Except thay many haven't.
17/02/2021 14:05:03 2 1
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0.5% works out at 300,000 people give or take. Or 6,000 times the death toll of the 7/7 attacks. Or 100 times that of 9/11. But you consider it insignificant? People like you are a disgrace.
17/02/2021 16:29:59 0 1
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Not sure it’s that high a number
17/02/2021 17:18:04 1 0
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So just to be clear, you don't think staying inside a lot more for a year is worth 0.5% of the people in the UK? Nice person. There's also the few % of people (we'll find out if more) who will now die younger for having had this disease, but why bring that up- 0.5% is such a small number (as long as none of them matter to you) isn't it?
18/02/2021 10:34:23 0 0
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Get over yourself. The older generation have already done more, so people could live in a democracy to start with.
18/02/2021 10:43:47 0 0
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Silly

Most people of all age groups have been helping to keep this virus under control without using emotive terms like locked up.

The reason that everyone has been inconvenienced is that a small minority, including many in the 18 to 30 group, chose not to "do their bit".

In particular, a few university students have put their own selfish pleasure before the good of society as a whole.
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Why has it taken nearly a year to do this?

Why weren't challenge trials used during vaccine development to speed up their development and deployment?

The impact on society has been catastrophic and ethics considerations need to be thrown out of the window. Offer a lot of cash, explain risk of death and disability and get on with it.

We need this living nightmare to end as soon as possible.
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17/02/2021 11:46:03 2 2
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The vast laboratory which is called society has already delivered over 100,000 deaths 'with' Covid in the UK alone

Yes we will do this sooner next time, be prepared for this to happen earlier in a pandemic, & learn much from experience

But stop dramatising, living nightmare?

No, we're learning as we go; back effort to the hilt

We need to be on the front foot: encourage, encourage, encourage
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17/02/2021 11:46:17 81 5
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Maybe young people aren't as selfish and useless as many would have you believe.
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17/02/2021 12:15:02 10 36
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Works both ways old timer.
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17/02/2021 12:43:53 1 2
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they are getting paid i am sure
What does this say about the wimps who refuse to have the vaccine.
I despair.
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I think what you'll find chap is that most healthcare professionals are looking on with cynicism as we all are in the know that rushed vaccines like this, particularly politically-driven vaccination programmes, are largely a waste of time.

Hard hitting vaccines that work efficaciously take many years to develop and test and even then some people don't respond with enough antibodies.
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17/02/2021 11:53:06 9 5
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I think what you will find "pal" is that you are simply typing without researching anything you are putting down.
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17/02/2021 11:59:37 2 1
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There is some truth in that, but the powers that be had to start somewhere. Yes they will develop the vaccines as time goes on, but they are a step in the right direction. Presumably you wouldn't have bothered to do anything, and just leave everything to luck?
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17/02/2021 11:46:36 16 6
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Yeah just turn up at this abandoned warehouse with all your mates at 2am it really is a rave, honest...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....
I thought you'd be more likely to get AIDS at a whorehou ... oh, misread it ... Removed
I concur with both your points. The nasty self-righteous Guardianistas who trolled Sir Tom are utterly worthless and pathetic individuals. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:46:41 7 7
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Not sure who these guardianistas are, is that another name for alt right because studies show that these are the generally more likely to be trolls.
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17/02/2021 11:46:48 47 9
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I am totally unqualified to comment on this, so I won’t.
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17/02/2021 12:39:22 5 37
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Do you hold any opinions?

Even just one?
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17/02/2021 11:38:35 6 9
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Conratulations. Youve found the one benefit we have had since January.
Now stop obsessing over it and start considering the mess its causing with everything else.
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17/02/2021 11:46:57 2 2
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Though we could have give for emergency approval even if we had still been in the EU. Looks like it's back to just blue passports again...
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17/02/2021 11:47:05 138 22
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Brave people. Respect. The antivaxxers meanwhile will continue to hinder scientific progress.
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17/02/2021 12:37:09 34 78
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Shame that Panarama did not give a balanced view and all one sided. Of course there is no informed discussion any more is there? When you are bought, you don't allow such balanced discussion. Doesn't the BBC just love to print the word 'anti-vaxxers' - and there other favourite word is 'conspiracy theorists'.
17/02/2021 16:36:27 4 5
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I think people should get on and have this experimental vaccine that nobody knows if it has any long term effects. They should not question anything. Especially the millions who have already had this “ killer “ disease and not even known it. Go on do as you are told. Question nothing
17/02/2021 18:23:12 0 2
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yawn
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17/02/2021 11:40:14 7 1
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How will they know? It's called Science. Perhaps you were asleep during those lessons in school?
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17/02/2021 11:47:09 1 1
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School, he was probably expelled which could be why he thinks like a 3 year old.
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17/02/2021 11:35:12 215 24
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Should be fine for volunteers .....plenty of people say it doesn't exist so they should be front of the queue ...easy money for them ......they will be there any minute now
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17/02/2021 11:47:20 23 3
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A good point well made. If Covid is a hoax then let the anti vaxxers line up to get infected and see what happens. One caveat - if they get sick they're on their own, isolated from anyone else and no or little hospital care, then they can tell us all how they got on afterwards. Perhaps they can use their coughed up lung as a full stop in their report...
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17/02/2021 11:50:44 9 18
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There's a huge difference between hoax and major overreaction. Just because people question the over reaction it doesn't mean they believe it's a hoax.
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17/02/2021 13:20:04 1 4
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You seem to baaa'ing along with the heard mate.

I don't think Covid is a hoax at all... i do however think its a illness that is mainly only dangerous to the old, frail and people who have serious health conditions.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all as i have had other vaccines but I don't want THIS one.

I don't feel at risk of getting seriously ill and for me he vaccine was rushed out
17/02/2021 17:51:28 0 0
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Nice, you visualising people that don't want to take the totally untested (for mid/long term side effects) vaccine coughing up a lung and using it as punctuation. Sick mind.
17/02/2021 22:56:10 0 0
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Stupid comment. If Covid is made in a lab then of coarse it exists and proves nothing. Suggesting you inject people who differ in opinion to you with a virus is nothing short of evil. Dr Josef Mengele would be proud of you.
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17/02/2021 11:47:20 0 17
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Let’s deliberately infect people with a virus (that is currently en-mass affecting people).. in order to work on more vaccines over the multiple that are already available (including ones that we are unwilling to use due to politics).. and test it out on a single populace (wonder who’s making out of this?). Or should we use our resources to enhance the role out of the vaccines we have instead??
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17/02/2021 11:48:47 3 1
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Both.
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17/02/2021 12:30:46 1 0
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Congratulations! Even the nutters aren't giving you an upvote! (One or more will now, I bet)
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17/02/2021 11:47:22 18 7
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Another example of shoddy reporting. The reason for this "trial" is NOT to see if the current vaccines work, this was done in clinical trials before they were approved. This is specifically to learn more about how the virus works.
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17/02/2021 11:50:18 7 4
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"Dr Chiu said the eventual aim was to find out which vaccines and treatments work best in beating the disease"

Was he lying, then?
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17/02/2021 11:48:24 1 1
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It's covering both aspects.
Good reporting.
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17/02/2021 12:13:26 0 0
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Your reading is coming along very well Mike.
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17/02/2021 12:29:30 0 0
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Another example of someone failing to grasp the content if an article
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17/02/2021 12:45:39 0 0
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i saw on America news last year they were doing these trials
17/02/2021 17:12:24 0 0
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Should we be playing God with live viruses do you think? The human race is unaware of it's own limits it would seem.
I concur with both your points. The nasty self-righteous Guardianistas who trolled Sir Tom are utterly worthless and pathetic individuals. Removed
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17/02/2021 11:47:27 9 11
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The people giving the thumbs down to this must be pathetic trolls
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17/02/2021 11:44:54 2 22
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"the study will use the virus that has been circulating in the UK since the pandemic began in March, ?? which is of low risk to healthy adults?? , to deliberately infect volunteers."

All this fear/hysteria and social + economic destruction for a low risk bug and now they want to jab the kids....basically everyone............follow the money and who's gaining more control from all this!
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17/02/2021 11:47:30 6 2
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It's low risk to healthy adults, hence why many don't know they had it and pass it on to people who are vulnerable, hence why we have had something upwards of 120k excess deaths in the UK

Follow what money? The money going to vaccine firms to deliver a vaccine to protect the vulnerable

Who is gaining control? Why not say and provide evidence not Do YoUr ReSeArCh?
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17/02/2021 11:54:35 0 3
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Low risk to healthy adults indeed therefore protect the vulnerable with the vaccine and open the country.
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17/02/2021 12:32:48 0 0
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120k excess deaths my A$$, you do research with actual ONS figures over the last decade or so.
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17/02/2021 11:44:10 5 27
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Lock up the young people and then use them as lab rats! So the government did have a strategy all along! ???????
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17/02/2021 11:47:55 9 2
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Which part of "trial volunteers" did you miss?
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17/02/2021 11:48:00 11 12
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Professional ditherer

Compulsive liar

Serial adulterer

Cheltenham races

Saviour of Christmas
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17/02/2021 11:54:29 4 3
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Shhh! Don't mention Christmas.

Santa needed his investment portfolio reinflated to tide over his bank account before the subsequent post Christmas death march commenced.

Utterly ruinous in cost of lives.
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17/02/2021 12:48:21 0 0
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Old stale news just like the BBC and anti vaxers.
Intelligent people have passed that and moved on.
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17/02/2021 11:48:08 13 15
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Thank you again, young people.

Some of us appreciate the risks you're taking, the debt being piled onto you for the sake of Brexit & the ERG, the lost jobs + redundancies you're suffering, that this is mainly to protect a small proportion of old people, that the elected PM has totally let you down.
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17/02/2021 11:55:35 5 5
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.... And Thank you, again, 'old people' for the debt that we owe you, many of you freely giving your lives so we may enjoy the freedoms we do today. Such as this open comments forum.
"We will remember you", well, some of us will.
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17/02/2021 12:00:03 0 3
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?? yet another boring post on Brexit ...
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17/02/2021 12:15:04 2 1
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Silly partisan rubbish
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17/02/2021 11:36:11 1 12
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Hopefully with these trials they can eliminate the common cold corona virus too
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17/02/2021 11:48:10 5 3
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Ignorant. The common cold isn't a coronavirus - it's a rhinovirus. A different virus.
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17/02/2021 11:54:00 1 1
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Wrong. "Common colds" are caused by a number of different viruses. Rhinoviruses ar the most prevalent cause. Coronaviruses are also a cause.
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17/02/2021 12:36:11 1 0
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Pots and Kettles buddy, Gotta love a big head calling others ignorant whils being WRONG!

"Common human coronaviruses, including types 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1, usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html
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17/02/2021 11:44:10 5 27
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Lock up the young people and then use them as lab rats! So the government did have a strategy all along! ???????
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17/02/2021 11:48:22 0 1
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Erm lab rats dont have a choice . Sit down
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17/02/2021 11:43:59 2 7
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What I'd like to know is how on earth, considering extensive mask use/social distancing & pretty much everything being closed in Nov/Dec, we ended up with 50% more people in hospital this Dec/Jan than we did last Mar/Apr. This article says the trial study is using the original Covid strain 'which is of low risk to healthy adults'...is it the case that the newer strains are more dangerous after all
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17/02/2021 11:48:29 3 2
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Nobody in their right mind would want a high risk volunteer to take part in this project.
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17/02/2021 11:55:43 0 1
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Not sure you understand what my point was. They are using the original strain of Covid in these tests, the strain that pretty much doesn't exist anymore. The 'Kent' strain has been the dominant one for months now. So why are they not using that one for these trial tests, unless it is more dangerous. When trying to learn more about a virus, why use a strain that is barely found so is not relevant.
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17/02/2021 13:11:26 0 0
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They are excluded.
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17/02/2021 11:44:10 5 27
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Lock up the young people and then use them as lab rats! So the government did have a strategy all along! ???????
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17/02/2021 11:48:40 2 1
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Lab rats? Disgusting.
The rats are the brain-dead conspiracy theorists who are spreading this deadly virus.
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17/02/2021 11:55:51 0 5
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So deadly we're now injecting people with it? Make your minds up! Is it deadly or not?
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17/02/2021 11:38:35 6 9
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Conratulations. Youve found the one benefit we have had since January.
Now stop obsessing over it and start considering the mess its causing with everything else.
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17/02/2021 11:48:42 2 3
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Sorry, had to mark you down as its got nothing to do with January's debacle. But I agree that we should dissociate all talk of Covid from talk of brexit. They are totally unrelated topics.
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17/02/2021 11:38:50 135 12
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I don’t think it is easy money. I applaud those who do volunteers.
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17/02/2021 11:48:52 33 2
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I've got a feeling Sloogy meant it's easy money cos in the eyes of the anti vaxxers because to them it doesn't exist
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17/02/2021 11:34:04 185 26
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Great: as the universally cherished Sir Tom said: tomorrow will be a better day

I love it when intelligent, brilliantly clever people (Companies/Universities) deploy their expertise well; even better when fast tracked & intended for the benefit of all

+ still Covid related, I am heartily ashamed & angry that anyone would be unkind (troll) Sir Tom & family

Govt. please sort this behaviour, now
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17/02/2021 11:49:02 20 11
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I agree wholeheartedly. Social media is responsible for terrible abuse and fake news. It's obvious that the likes of FB, twitter and the like, are unable or unwilling to control use. So the UK gov should legislate to enforce removal of all anonymity. Nothing should be posted online that you wouldn't say in a court of law.
17/02/2021 14:00:23 0 3
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I strongly believe that, that would be a major overreaction. However, when a post is reported for breaking the law (in this case harassment), their identity should immediately be made available to the Police.
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17/02/2021 11:35:43 16 9
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Nothing to do with brexit. Nothing to do with the EU, any country could have negotiated its own vaccine deals. Very little to do with Bo Jo and his mates. Almost entirely down to the NHS and our world class medical researchers.
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17/02/2021 11:49:24 3 2
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Most of the EU countries didn’t did they. It has a lot to do with the Government, who do you think put millions into research, who placed orders for a number of different vaccines etc - the Government so credit where credit is due.