Climate change: Don't raid home insulation scheme, MPs urge ministers
17/02/2021 | news | politics | 362
The government hopes to claw back money from a £1.5bn fund to promote home insulation.
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17/02/2021 10:06:28 32 5
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How about reducing MPs expenses
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17/02/2021 10:20:12 33 2
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They'd still produce the same amount of gas!
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17/02/2021 12:08:29 3 1
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Does it ever occur to you that the people who constantly tell you that MPs are all on the fiddle, are all overpaid, and could all be done without have their own agenda? Of course it does not. You just keep parroting the trite little slogans that they have fed you, convinced that you have formed your own opinions, which just happen to be what Nigel the Swindler and his mates want you to think.
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17/02/2021 12:11:32 4 1
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There're BBC presenters, newsreaders etc who earn do much more a year than MP's (Nevermind those who work for news outlets which aren't taxpayer funded!)

John Humphreys was earning £600,000 a year at Radio 4 (nearly 10x more than a cabinet minister gets), yet would always lay into MP's when the subject of their pay rises came up!

Stop posting cheap remarks for likes on HYS and do your homework!
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Pip
17/02/2021 16:54:47 0 1
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How about reducing MP's..........?
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17/02/2021 10:07:53 72 8
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A mismanaged government scheme?..... that’s a novelty!
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17/02/2021 18:05:05 12 4
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Ah, so now the Tory tactic is to continue to be inept so that you don't spend the money you didn't want to spend in the first place!
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18/02/2021 10:53:51 1 0
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Government mismanagement seems increasingly common because of lack of long-term strategy, appropriate specification and monitoring and Treasury interference. Sometimes you need outside expertise, but a for-profit company can be a mistake. The may not be capable either.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/28/green-homes-grant-uk-standards-body-calls-on-government-to-pay-up
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17/02/2021 10:08:27 11 5
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HS2
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17/02/2021 13:36:21 4 2
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Electrified mass public transport - surely better than thousands of cars or plane rides?
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17/02/2021 10:08:45 46 10
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This budget should be unlimited, current houses need insulating or converting to help cut down greenhouse gasses and protect all of us.
Also, new houses should have to be carbon neutral.
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17/02/2021 12:02:46 18 35
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This budget should be cancelled, people should pay for their own insulation and not expect others to foot the bill.
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17/02/2021 13:00:19 4 1
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Research was carried out into zero carbon homes which the govt binned. Do a search in the British Library for zero carbon homes in the UK and you should find the PhD, not mine I add.
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17/02/2021 10:09:35 93 16
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The government pretends to be green but in reality it's just about the money.
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17/02/2021 11:16:15 47 6
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That's taxpayer money, our money. We should spend it wisely.
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17/02/2021 18:03:59 3 5
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Ah, so now the Tory tactic is to continue to be inept so that you don't spend the money you didn't want to spend in the first place!
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17/02/2021 10:10:12 23 14
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So here we have the Government spending billions to reduce carbon emissions by insulating homes while at the same time allowing a new coal mine to be developed in Cumbria. Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.
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17/02/2021 10:19:30 6 5
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Have you seen the sums?
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17/02/2021 12:04:05 2 2
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Why bonkers, reducing carbon emissions does not mean that every single carbon source must stop - some things like coking coal for steelmaking or airplane flights will still need to emit carbon and be offset elsewhere.
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17/02/2021 10:10:39 10 7
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There's far more carbon reduction to be got from insulating housing than there is from electrifying road transport.

Shows where Tory Government ministers' interests lie. Their supporters in dirty energy suppliers 100, environment 0.
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17/02/2021 10:19:00 3 8
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Not in Africa there isn't!
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17/02/2021 10:45:08 1 1
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It can't be a case of either/or, it has to be both.
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MVP
17/02/2021 10:11:15 9 5
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The government has obligations under the Paris Climate Change agreement to reduce CO2 emissions.

They cannot possibly renege on these promises. Can they?
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17/02/2021 10:12:19 12 7
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Of course they can, they are all about u-turns.
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17/02/2021 10:43:23 1 1
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You think this crowd care? Most of them won't be alive when the deadline hits.
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17/02/2021 15:57:07 0 1
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Let's hope not.
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17/02/2021 10:11:51 62 17
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To be fair, the £1,000,000 donated to the Conservative Party election campaign by fossil fuel companies has to result in some cronyism and kickback, it's the Tory way.
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17/02/2021 10:28:57 43 6
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I think you'll find that £1M is the very thin end of the wedge ... Government subsidy to fossil fuels is absolutely vast.
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MVP
17/02/2021 10:11:15 9 5
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The government has obligations under the Paris Climate Change agreement to reduce CO2 emissions.

They cannot possibly renege on these promises. Can they?
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17/02/2021 10:12:19 12 7
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Of course they can, they are all about u-turns.
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17/02/2021 10:20:23 4 1
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It's not u-turns any more, they're running doughnuts. Pointless, annoying and criminally wasteful.
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Bob
17/02/2021 10:14:05 10 3
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Meanwhile 6% of households still stuck with oil for heating.
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17/02/2021 10:25:39 7 1
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When you are off the main gas grid then you have few options open to you. There are LPG, Oil and Wood/Coal which will become more expensive as we all head towards zero carbon emission regulation.
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17/02/2021 10:26:22 4 1
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It's about 70% round here - there is no mains gas.
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17/02/2021 10:17:30 9 3
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The main problem with the old scheme was that it was difficult to qualify. I have a 25 year old gas boiler which still works well but is not very efficient. Initially I thought I would qualify for a new one but didn't.
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17/02/2021 10:33:51 3 1
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Similarly, we have 25+ year old double glazing. Doesn't qualify for even a fractional grant. I'm a pensioner...
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17/02/2021 10:17:56 4 10
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My partner went through this scheme and has had unfloor insulation fitted last month, the first voucher was sent to the installation company a fortnight ago,. Now she's just confirmed a date for new windows for the second half of the grant. L

All hassle free.

This sounds to me like the typical media finding a few faults with a government scheme and portraying it all as a shambles.
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17/02/2021 10:18:57 23 6
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I have just had my 1000lt of oil delivered this morning.

If there was a significant upfront grant for ground source heat pumps I might be interested.
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17/02/2021 10:21:24 7 1
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I think that was just what the scheme was intended for - see my moan below!
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17/02/2021 10:23:12 1 1
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There are options - see RHI as well as other options (before they are closed).
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17/02/2021 11:03:38 5 1
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There used to be a grant for GS heat pumps - I installed one when extending a former home and it worked beautifully. But you need at least a large lawn to bury the underground pipes in... there's also air source heat pumps which don't need burying. My neighbour has one and the heat exchanger on the outside wall is very noisy!
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17/02/2021 12:46:33 2 3
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Ground source heat pumps cause a lot of noise pollution - our neighbours pump keeps us awake at night, and the new house two doors down in the opposite direction is almost as bad. Not the solution everybody thinks they are.
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17/02/2021 13:34:53 5 2
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What we need is a carbon tax that makes that 1,000lt more expensive and take into account the damage to the environment so that the ground source starts to look more attractive.
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17/02/2021 21:48:56 0 2
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I recommend you watch this YouTube video before investing in GSHP or ASHP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uNKPDREa-Q
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17/02/2021 10:10:39 10 7
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There's far more carbon reduction to be got from insulating housing than there is from electrifying road transport.

Shows where Tory Government ministers' interests lie. Their supporters in dirty energy suppliers 100, environment 0.
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17/02/2021 10:19:00 3 8
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Not in Africa there isn't!
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17/02/2021 10:51:52 2 1
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I was told by a green business leader:

"....more insulation is always beneficial. Doesnt matter how much energy goes into making the insulation, it is **always** beneficial."

Yep, dogma before science??
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18/02/2021 13:59:51 0 0
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This isn't Africa...
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17/02/2021 10:10:12 23 14
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So here we have the Government spending billions to reduce carbon emissions by insulating homes while at the same time allowing a new coal mine to be developed in Cumbria. Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.
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17/02/2021 10:19:30 6 5
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Have you seen the sums?
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17/02/2021 10:26:11 4 3
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As an engineering consultant, I've done the sums, not just seen them.
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17/02/2021 10:20:00 63 16
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Britain has an old inefficient dilapidated housing stock and pours heat into the atmosphere every single day and night.

Its living the Tory dream seemingly.
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17/02/2021 10:40:46 23 26
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Nothing wrong with a bit of ventilation in one’s house, especially in these Covid riddled days.
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17/02/2021 19:49:30 1 3
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About 6 years ago a bunch of Govt (Local Authority) sponsored schemes installed another layer insulation in my house saying it would be future proofed for insulation. 2 years later another local Govt funded scheme approached me to replace the whole of my insulation as "it would harbour damp". It was bone dry and I told them to go away. Now we have another "new" scheme. Ignore them -they go away
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18/02/2021 09:52:49 1 5
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"Britain has an old inefficient dilapidated housing stock and pours heat into the atmosphere every single day and night"

Unlike every other country in the world, eh ?

Must be why migrants travel thousands of miles and risk their lives to get here, because the UK is such a third world hellhole ...
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17/02/2021 10:06:28 32 5
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How about reducing MPs expenses
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17/02/2021 10:20:12 33 2
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They'd still produce the same amount of gas!
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17/02/2021 12:06:55 1 1
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No if only we could put that to some energy efficient use!
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17/02/2021 13:19:53 0 1
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Especially whilst talking!
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17/02/2021 10:12:19 12 7
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Of course they can, they are all about u-turns.
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17/02/2021 10:20:23 4 1
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It's not u-turns any more, they're running doughnuts. Pointless, annoying and criminally wasteful.
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17/02/2021 10:18:57 23 6
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I have just had my 1000lt of oil delivered this morning.

If there was a significant upfront grant for ground source heat pumps I might be interested.
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17/02/2021 10:21:24 7 1
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I think that was just what the scheme was intended for - see my moan below!
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17/02/2021 10:18:57 23 6
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I have just had my 1000lt of oil delivered this morning.

If there was a significant upfront grant for ground source heat pumps I might be interested.
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17/02/2021 10:23:12 1 1
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There are options - see RHI as well as other options (before they are closed).
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17/02/2021 10:24:24 3 1
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Three months and waiting for a response to a Green Homes Grant ...
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Bob
17/02/2021 10:14:05 10 3
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Meanwhile 6% of households still stuck with oil for heating.
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17/02/2021 10:25:39 7 1
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When you are off the main gas grid then you have few options open to you. There are LPG, Oil and Wood/Coal which will become more expensive as we all head towards zero carbon emission regulation.
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17/02/2021 10:42:14 3 4
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We lived off-grid for gas (and sewage). We used waste wood from various sources - one a furniture factory..
But there are far more options than that. Ground heat pump, biogas from sewage waste, solar- and wind-energy, grow your own wood. If you have a stream, micro turbine or just plain old fashioned water wheel. Many, many possibilities.
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17/02/2021 10:20:59 51 1
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I have been trying to access this scheme for months to insulate my new home but companies are dropping it, unwilling to access the Green Grant Scheme. Now I understand why! Red tape.... would love this to be addressed immediately!
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17/02/2021 13:47:56 30 1
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I too tried to access this scheme from the time it was first announced (August 2020). None of the builders I spoke to were willing to accept this half baked, badly devised scheme. I even wrote to the Business Secretary & the Chancellor about this. Did I get a reply!! Just deafening silence!
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Pip
17/02/2021 16:29:49 5 1
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Tories addressing 'Red Tape', mmmm you may be waiting a little while I think...........?
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18/02/2021 10:56:24 0 1
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Sadly seems to be the usual story. Need to improve the scheme to scale up the retrofit industry, not claw it back. Some installers call it a 'national outrage':

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/dec/03/we-are-all-seeing-red-over-the-governments-green-homes-grant
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18/02/2021 13:39:58 0 0
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Home Heat Care
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17/02/2021 10:19:30 6 5
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Have you seen the sums?
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17/02/2021 10:26:11 4 3
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As an engineering consultant, I've done the sums, not just seen them.
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Bob
17/02/2021 10:14:05 10 3
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Meanwhile 6% of households still stuck with oil for heating.
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17/02/2021 10:26:22 4 1
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It's about 70% round here - there is no mains gas.
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17/02/2021 10:47:46 2 1
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Are so **you** are responsible for the AGW issues in the UK!
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17/02/2021 10:27:09 77 19
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The govt could try clawing back the money it wasted on Cummings' friends 'Track & Trace' scam.
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17/02/2021 13:05:49 17 3
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I am waiting for the real budget where we get to see who is going to pay for the government spending, if its freezing benefits again it will cause outrage, if its the pensioners it will cause outrage, to raise the cash needed it has to be a tax everyone pays a new covid tax alongside vat, but without the loopholes for business everyone must pay their fair share, have no doubt fuel will rise.
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17/02/2021 13:14:51 6 2
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That money is well out of the government’s reach in off shore tax havens.
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Pip
17/02/2021 16:25:35 3 2
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I think that's probably a long way offshore by now, there'll be no 'Track and Trace' of that I fear.........?
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17/02/2021 10:11:51 62 17
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To be fair, the £1,000,000 donated to the Conservative Party election campaign by fossil fuel companies has to result in some cronyism and kickback, it's the Tory way.
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17/02/2021 10:28:57 43 6
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I think you'll find that £1M is the very thin end of the wedge ... Government subsidy to fossil fuels is absolutely vast.
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18/02/2021 11:16:35 1 0
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Yes, subsidies are vast especially if you include health and climate effects & ECGD, but the £1m is going in the opposite direction.

The UK 'crony ratio' may be 100:1.
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/02/05/crony-ratio-conservative-donations-government-coronavirus-contracts/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/26/us-firm-running-eco-grants-scheme-has-won-multiple-uk-government-contracts
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17/02/2021 10:29:13 3 4
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Just another group of out of their depth unqualified backbench MPs sitting on a meaningless committee thinking that anyone in government will take any notice of them.

Nothing to see here.
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17/02/2021 10:29:53 6 2
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The scheme was a bit useless anyway, I've got lots of small improvements I could make which would make a large difference to the green credentials of my home but the grant only applies to large scale work.

For example, my mother has an end of terrace, she wanted to add cladding to the side of the house to improve the insulation, but the grant would only apply if she did the front and back too.
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17/02/2021 10:40:20 6 2
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(front and back which are already cavity walls and are stonework so you wouldn't choose to clad it).

Why not solar panels? Why not some subsidy for green electricity? Electric heating and hot water in a Victorian property (done up with double glazing etc.) is excruciatingly expensive.
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17/02/2021 10:43:49 1 2
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Not a surprise as the gain would be minimal & could also cause issues with cold bridging & moisture. The old Victorian terraces as not fit for purpose
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17/02/2021 13:15:11 0 3
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Why not make those small improvements to your property anyway under your own scheme rather than having others pay for it?
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17/02/2021 10:31:32 5 4
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No average home owner can afford solar panels or this new water pump thing. No average home owner knows about this green homes schemes probably have to get some form of benefit to access it I bet?
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17/02/2021 10:39:17 4 1
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Ten years ago I got a quote for a heat pump to heat a conservatory I have, the quote was nearly £6K, I contacted a firm in Portsmouth who quoted me just under £900 for the unit and with much sweating and anxiety I fitted it myself. Ten years on it works like a dream is very effective and is cheap to run.
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17/02/2021 10:40:28 6 1
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A home owner cant install solar panels themselves. Part-P issue thanks to Labour protecting the manual industries.

Accreditation is simple, but expensive.
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17/02/2021 10:17:30 9 3
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The main problem with the old scheme was that it was difficult to qualify. I have a 25 year old gas boiler which still works well but is not very efficient. Initially I thought I would qualify for a new one but didn't.
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17/02/2021 10:33:51 3 1
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Similarly, we have 25+ year old double glazing. Doesn't qualify for even a fractional grant. I'm a pensioner...
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17/02/2021 15:53:03 0 2
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What the reason to change double glazing for double glazing. If the walls are not well insulated then better to spend the money there.
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17/02/2021 10:35:09 7 1
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Forget all the 'Jobs for the boys' schemes, simply remove VAT from all home improvement products - that will allow DIY improvements to be carried out as well as commercial companies.
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18/02/2021 11:28:46 0 0
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Do both.

The demand and the savings are massive, besides it being needed to stop emissions. It needs to be run better and scaled up:
https://neweconomics.org/uploads/files/Green-stimulus-for-housing_NEF.pdf

The government hasn't reached a tenth of the retrofit indicators in the official CCC reports for years.
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17/02/2021 10:38:24 2 2
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Guess one way you can make a house efficient, ..in BOTH the short and long term, would be with a well insulated tiny house on wheels. Not too resource intensive to build, and only a small space to heat. Could then park it on cheaper non-zoned land, ....except the powers that be aren't really down with the idea of a free debt free public,.. best to be discrete I guess.
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17/02/2021 10:38:30 4 9
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So Covid19 didnt have any impact on the installers did it?

Yet another Roger Horrobin article that is biased, lacks critical thinking, & trying to agitate the gullible on greenwashing.

Do some houses need extra insulation? Yes

When the countries debt is massive should any untapped money be better spent? Yes

Is the scheme being stopped? no

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17/02/2021 10:47:18 3 4
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Actually Rogers articles are very good.
I have read some of your posts and it seems you have a long way to go when it comes to understanding basic maths.
That could be your problem.
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17/02/2021 10:38:33 9 1
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Would love to insulate my loft with thermal foil as we store items up there. But all I can get is rockfall installers to lay on rafters.

A subsidy in insulation materials would be a better use of the money. Could do the job myself.
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17/02/2021 11:53:38 3 1
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You wouldn't expect them to do anything else.
Cheap materials, no skills or training required.
The government would rather trust them than you.
I did my own foil and rigid foam between the rafters - a warm roof - draft-free and dry.
Probably cost less than the scheme installers and very satisfying to do.
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17/02/2021 10:38:57 20 4
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Dreadful incompetence plus greenwashing - another doomed Tory foray into energy efficiency.
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17/02/2021 10:31:32 5 4
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No average home owner can afford solar panels or this new water pump thing. No average home owner knows about this green homes schemes probably have to get some form of benefit to access it I bet?
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17/02/2021 10:39:17 4 1
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Ten years ago I got a quote for a heat pump to heat a conservatory I have, the quote was nearly £6K, I contacted a firm in Portsmouth who quoted me just under £900 for the unit and with much sweating and anxiety I fitted it myself. Ten years on it works like a dream is very effective and is cheap to run.
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17/02/2021 10:29:53 6 2
bbc
The scheme was a bit useless anyway, I've got lots of small improvements I could make which would make a large difference to the green credentials of my home but the grant only applies to large scale work.

For example, my mother has an end of terrace, she wanted to add cladding to the side of the house to improve the insulation, but the grant would only apply if she did the front and back too.
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17/02/2021 10:40:20 6 2
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(front and back which are already cavity walls and are stonework so you wouldn't choose to clad it).

Why not solar panels? Why not some subsidy for green electricity? Electric heating and hot water in a Victorian property (done up with double glazing etc.) is excruciatingly expensive.
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17/02/2021 10:31:32 5 4
bbc
No average home owner can afford solar panels or this new water pump thing. No average home owner knows about this green homes schemes probably have to get some form of benefit to access it I bet?
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17/02/2021 10:40:28 6 1
bbc
A home owner cant install solar panels themselves. Part-P issue thanks to Labour protecting the manual industries.

Accreditation is simple, but expensive.
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17/02/2021 10:20:00 63 16
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Britain has an old inefficient dilapidated housing stock and pours heat into the atmosphere every single day and night.

Its living the Tory dream seemingly.
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17/02/2021 10:40:46 23 26
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Nothing wrong with a bit of ventilation in one’s house, especially in these Covid riddled days.
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17/02/2021 11:50:30 4 2
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Ventilation can help to disperse Covid-19 or its mutation but you have to ask yourself how did the virus get into the house in the first place, if a member of the household has the virus and you don't live in a mansion doubt ventilation on its own will stop it spreadin, you could of course live outside??
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17/02/2021 10:41:46 56 6
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As with pretty much everything this government touches, the delivery is appalling. That's what happens when you give the contracts to 'your mates company' rather than an efficient organisation. To then blame the failure to deliver on a lack of interest by consumers just adds insult to injury.
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Tex
17/02/2021 11:14:45 11 33
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I wonder if it the government, more than likely the failures are initiated by our inept civil service.
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17/02/2021 13:33:08 2 9
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And yet the left always calls for MORE government?
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17/02/2021 10:25:39 7 1
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When you are off the main gas grid then you have few options open to you. There are LPG, Oil and Wood/Coal which will become more expensive as we all head towards zero carbon emission regulation.
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17/02/2021 10:42:14 3 4
bbc
We lived off-grid for gas (and sewage). We used waste wood from various sources - one a furniture factory..
But there are far more options than that. Ground heat pump, biogas from sewage waste, solar- and wind-energy, grow your own wood. If you have a stream, micro turbine or just plain old fashioned water wheel. Many, many possibilities.
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MVP
17/02/2021 10:11:15 9 5
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The government has obligations under the Paris Climate Change agreement to reduce CO2 emissions.

They cannot possibly renege on these promises. Can they?
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17/02/2021 10:43:23 1 1
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You think this crowd care? Most of them won't be alive when the deadline hits.
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17/02/2021 10:29:53 6 2
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The scheme was a bit useless anyway, I've got lots of small improvements I could make which would make a large difference to the green credentials of my home but the grant only applies to large scale work.

For example, my mother has an end of terrace, she wanted to add cladding to the side of the house to improve the insulation, but the grant would only apply if she did the front and back too.
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17/02/2021 10:43:49 1 2
bbc
Not a surprise as the gain would be minimal & could also cause issues with cold bridging & moisture. The old Victorian terraces as not fit for purpose
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17/02/2021 10:10:39 10 7
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There's far more carbon reduction to be got from insulating housing than there is from electrifying road transport.

Shows where Tory Government ministers' interests lie. Their supporters in dirty energy suppliers 100, environment 0.
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17/02/2021 10:45:08 1 1
bbc
It can't be a case of either/or, it has to be both.
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17/02/2021 10:45:13 22 5
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Who exactly from the Jockey Club is managing the Government's Green Homes Grant scheme?
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17/02/2021 10:55:37 10 3
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It's those folks from Fred Khano's circus....
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18/02/2021 11:25:19 1 0
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It's a company called ICF:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/26/government-plans-to-turn-england-homes-green-in-chaos-with-debt-and-job-losses

Regardless of whether Mr Jenrick met them at the races or the golf club, it's vital to ensure the actual installers are paid promptly and supported. From now on, the scheme must be competently and effectively run and scaled up rapidly.
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Jim
17/02/2021 10:46:50 27 4
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Support needs to be available to those who own their own hard to heat home but who arent on benefits that allow access to the many available grants.

Its galling that those who pay the taxes that support benefit payments (and entrance to the various grants flowing from that) may actually be worse off and in higher fuel poverty.
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17/02/2021 10:38:30 4 9
bbc
So Covid19 didnt have any impact on the installers did it?

Yet another Roger Horrobin article that is biased, lacks critical thinking, & trying to agitate the gullible on greenwashing.

Do some houses need extra insulation? Yes

When the countries debt is massive should any untapped money be better spent? Yes

Is the scheme being stopped? no

49
17/02/2021 10:47:18 3 4
bbc
Actually Rogers articles are very good.
I have read some of your posts and it seems you have a long way to go when it comes to understanding basic maths.
That could be your problem.
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17/02/2021 11:32:47 1 1
bbc
"you have a long way to go when it comes to understanding basic maths."?????? Thanks for the laugh.

Point still remains the article is biased, it must have been beyond the ability of the eco-evangelists to ask the National Audit Office or the Public Accounts Committee for their views. Havent checked if Roger tweeted to FoE & XR for another "Call Me" for his facts!

There is finite money
26
17/02/2021 10:26:22 4 1
bbc
It's about 70% round here - there is no mains gas.
50
17/02/2021 10:47:46 2 1
bbc
Are so **you** are responsible for the AGW issues in the UK!
51
17/02/2021 10:38:26 1 1
bbc
I used the Green Scheme for cavity wall insulation,,,,, but the people who installed it now keep making nuisance calls to sell me insulating foam for roofing felt which is risky to install.
66
17/02/2021 11:07:50 0 3
bbc
If sprayed on then it does have the added benefit of making the rook stronger.
15
17/02/2021 10:19:00 3 8
bbc
Not in Africa there isn't!
52
17/02/2021 10:51:52 2 1
bbc
I was told by a green business leader:

"....more insulation is always beneficial. Doesnt matter how much energy goes into making the insulation, it is **always** beneficial."

Yep, dogma before science??
53
17/02/2021 10:54:37 87 5
bbc
I'm looking to move and have been visiting newbuild housing developments. Have any of them even thought about using anything other than gas boilers, installing solar panels, or even building to the highest posible insulation standards? No. Yet Jenrick's massive planning deregulation proposals makes it even less likely that developers will build to the green standards we need.
57
17/02/2021 10:58:07 72 4
bbc
Osborne scrapped carbon-zero homes some five years ago, helping to create a legacy of problems for the Conservatives to be able to deliver their own manifesto promises. A comedy of incompetence.
64
17/02/2021 11:06:47 1 1
bbc
Depends where you look
249
18/02/2021 02:51:35 2 2
bbc
Planning is only about aiding mates to sell green fields that should be growing our food, for development prices. That is why government rigs the housing market like the Stamp Duty being added to the price of housing. Oh 'help to bid up' scheme. I know people gagging for their turn to flog off land and become millionaires overnight for doing nothing. Do not be complicit do not buy new builds.
259
18/02/2021 08:13:30 0 1
bbc
Our local authority 'East Ayrshire' require some form of renewable energy in all new homes, usually this is solar water or electricity.
275
18/02/2021 09:12:53 2 1
bbc
But, people want to buy cheap homes, the fact that good insulation will save them money in the long term is neither here nor there.
306
18/02/2021 10:35:18 4 1
bbc
Yes even newbuild and refurbs are nowhere near the standards they should be (highest BREAAM Or Passivhaus), despite changes to part L of building regs making things more complicated.

But the failure on retrofits so far has been even bigger. It could use far more than the CCC's £2bn/year and we'd all be better off:
https://neweconomics.org/uploads/files/Green-stimulus-for-housing_NEF.pdf
332
18/02/2021 13:30:46 0 0
bbc
Because I wouldn't buy a home without a gas boiler, and so wouldn't many other people. The developers don't want to be lumped with homes that won't sell.
341
18/02/2021 13:58:11 0 0
bbc
There was one such at Parc Erin in Cardiff last August. It was covered by youtube channel "Fully Charged Show". All the houses were highly insulated and had solar, heatpumps & 3-phase electrics for selling spare solar power, which also allowed 22kW chargepoints for electric cars to be fitted.
47
17/02/2021 10:45:13 22 5
bbc
Who exactly from the Jockey Club is managing the Government's Green Homes Grant scheme?
54
17/02/2021 10:55:37 10 3
bbc
It's those folks from Fred Khano's circus....
128
17/02/2021 12:36:55 2 1
bbc
...or Fred Karno's Circus.
55
17/02/2021 10:57:05 4 3
bbc
I already have some roof insulation, on floor of roof which is partly boarded over and used for lots of storage. Moving that for a couple more inches thickness would be horrendous. I'd like to have insulating panels between rafters but that didn't seem to be an option when I looked into grants earlier.
63
17/02/2021 11:06:19 6 2
bbc
No because creating a warm attic is **not** green.

Despite it protecting the water tank, & items from cold & heat damage. If done correctly it will reduce a lot of heat loss from air leakage & draughts. But still it is deemed not to be green??
75
17/02/2021 11:19:35 1 1
bbc
You don’t have to increase the floor insulation in your loft, you can have, under the grant, foam insulation between the rafters of the roof. Under the primary measures of the grant it comes under Pitch Insulation.
56
17/02/2021 10:57:29 6 9
bbc
Nobody voted for this government to state Carbon free by 2050 lets have no more bloody windmills lets go nuclear if you want electric cars here then Windmills and solar will not cut it as for insulation set a minimum for new houses and allow gas just incase electric doesn't get there and cancel the 20% on fuel for green systems FFS
58
17/02/2021 11:00:32 8 2
bbc
"Nobody voted for this government to state Carbon free by 2050"

It was one of their 6 key election manifesto promises.

It seems you did not know what you were voting for - I suspect this is not the first time either. ??
53
17/02/2021 10:54:37 87 5
bbc
I'm looking to move and have been visiting newbuild housing developments. Have any of them even thought about using anything other than gas boilers, installing solar panels, or even building to the highest posible insulation standards? No. Yet Jenrick's massive planning deregulation proposals makes it even less likely that developers will build to the green standards we need.
57
17/02/2021 10:58:07 72 4
bbc
Osborne scrapped carbon-zero homes some five years ago, helping to create a legacy of problems for the Conservatives to be able to deliver their own manifesto promises. A comedy of incompetence.
139
17/02/2021 13:01:54 6 1
bbc
Yes, just after my PhD student completed her thesis on homeowner opinions of zero carbon homes, available in the British Library online.
188
17/02/2021 15:05:07 11 3
bbc
Indeed, gross incompetence. We would have had over a million zero carbon homes by now.
56
17/02/2021 10:57:29 6 9
bbc
Nobody voted for this government to state Carbon free by 2050 lets have no more bloody windmills lets go nuclear if you want electric cars here then Windmills and solar will not cut it as for insulation set a minimum for new houses and allow gas just incase electric doesn't get there and cancel the 20% on fuel for green systems FFS
58
17/02/2021 11:00:32 8 2
bbc
"Nobody voted for this government to state Carbon free by 2050"

It was one of their 6 key election manifesto promises.

It seems you did not know what you were voting for - I suspect this is not the first time either. ??
59
17/02/2021 10:50:07 12 3
bbc
I’ve had at least a dozen phone calls from people offering to insulate my house which is already insulated. This is another meant well government policy that is being scammed by dodgy firms wasting taxpayers money.
68
17/02/2021 11:13:33 6 2
bbc
Yep, same with me, too many firms trying to get on the cash band wagon
60
17/02/2021 10:52:29 2 5
bbc
What about all the renters is there anything in their contacts that says the house/flat they rent must be insulated by the owners ? I suspect not.
65
17/02/2021 11:07:14 6 2
bbc
There is, rented property has to achieve a minimum Energy Performance Certificate rating of E.
88
17/02/2021 11:36:09 2 1
bbc
155
17/02/2021 13:22:09 1 1
bbc
As you can see, you suspected wrongly. The EPC rating should be pushed towards a minimum "D" rating over the next ten years with landlords given ample time to consider how to do that.
14
17/02/2021 10:18:57 23 6
bbc
I have just had my 1000lt of oil delivered this morning.

If there was a significant upfront grant for ground source heat pumps I might be interested.
61
17/02/2021 11:03:38 5 1
bbc
There used to be a grant for GS heat pumps - I installed one when extending a former home and it worked beautifully. But you need at least a large lawn to bury the underground pipes in... there's also air source heat pumps which don't need burying. My neighbour has one and the heat exchanger on the outside wall is very noisy!
62
17/02/2021 11:03:04 6 3
bbc
I didin't realise that conservative Frackers cared about the environment.

Are flights still arriving ?
55
17/02/2021 10:57:05 4 3
bbc
I already have some roof insulation, on floor of roof which is partly boarded over and used for lots of storage. Moving that for a couple more inches thickness would be horrendous. I'd like to have insulating panels between rafters but that didn't seem to be an option when I looked into grants earlier.
63
17/02/2021 11:06:19 6 2
bbc
No because creating a warm attic is **not** green.

Despite it protecting the water tank, & items from cold & heat damage. If done correctly it will reduce a lot of heat loss from air leakage & draughts. But still it is deemed not to be green??
53
17/02/2021 10:54:37 87 5
bbc
I'm looking to move and have been visiting newbuild housing developments. Have any of them even thought about using anything other than gas boilers, installing solar panels, or even building to the highest posible insulation standards? No. Yet Jenrick's massive planning deregulation proposals makes it even less likely that developers will build to the green standards we need.
64
17/02/2021 11:06:47 1 1
bbc
Depends where you look
60
17/02/2021 10:52:29 2 5
bbc
What about all the renters is there anything in their contacts that says the house/flat they rent must be insulated by the owners ? I suspect not.
65
17/02/2021 11:07:14 6 2
bbc
There is, rented property has to achieve a minimum Energy Performance Certificate rating of E.
51
17/02/2021 10:38:26 1 1
bbc
I used the Green Scheme for cavity wall insulation,,,,, but the people who installed it now keep making nuisance calls to sell me insulating foam for roofing felt which is risky to install.
66
17/02/2021 11:07:50 0 3
bbc
If sprayed on then it does have the added benefit of making the rook stronger.
67
17/02/2021 11:08:21 4 8
bbc
One can only guess the look on smiley sunak's face when he finally got someone to sellotape enough fag packets together to actually calculate how much of our future he's been giving away to dodgy kebab bars et al.
Disappointment, I suppose, for this doyen of giveaway, for those who thought they were dealing with stainless steel when all the time it was pig iron, tarnishing like the rest of HMG.
59
17/02/2021 10:50:07 12 3
bbc
I’ve had at least a dozen phone calls from people offering to insulate my house which is already insulated. This is another meant well government policy that is being scammed by dodgy firms wasting taxpayers money.
68
17/02/2021 11:13:33 6 2
bbc
Yep, same with me, too many firms trying to get on the cash band wagon
42
17/02/2021 10:41:46 56 6
bbc
As with pretty much everything this government touches, the delivery is appalling. That's what happens when you give the contracts to 'your mates company' rather than an efficient organisation. To then blame the failure to deliver on a lack of interest by consumers just adds insult to injury.
69
Tex
17/02/2021 11:14:45 11 33
bbc
I wonder if it the government, more than likely the failures are initiated by our inept civil service.
193
17/02/2021 15:19:56 8 2
bbc
Evidence?
Almost certainly this inept government who don't think through their ideas and expect the Civil servants to sort it out.
208
17/02/2021 16:18:35 0 8
bbc
USA has a neater way of reducing the organisation friction. When a President is elected the whole top level of the departments are politically appointed. This can be a few thousand staff that get replaced. When GW Bush won, the outgoing staff removed the "W" from the keyboards: petty but still funny.

Wish they implement that policy in the UK. Would lessen policy failure from day one
315
18/02/2021 11:04:54 2 0
bbc
The scheme administration isn't even handled by the civil service, but a big US contractor, presumably directly in contact with ministers:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/26/government-plans-to-turn-england-homes-green-in-chaos-with-debt-and-job-losses

Until the 1980s, ministers used to take responsibility for the failures on their watch, subcontracted or not.
70
17/02/2021 11:14:56 38 14
bbc
Could claw-back a lot more than 1.5bn quid by cancelling HS2.
77
17/02/2021 11:26:21 13 7
bbc
Must not cancel vanity projects, must they?
81
Tex
17/02/2021 11:28:47 4 4
bbc
It would reduce our carbon output as it is being laid out on a concrete base!
5
17/02/2021 10:09:35 93 16
bbc
The government pretends to be green but in reality it's just about the money.
71
17/02/2021 11:16:15 47 6
bbc
That's taxpayer money, our money. We should spend it wisely.
140
17/02/2021 13:03:33 12 6
bbc
Someone needs to have a word with Bozo as he being giving trillions away to his useless chums
189
17/02/2021 15:07:34 5 2
bbc
A lot of these schemes are excellent in principle but often so full of loopholes they are heavily abused. They need a lot of scrutiny to be properly implemented or they do more harm than good, for instance the green energy scheme where money was claimed to heat derelict buildings.

https://inews.co.uk/news/rhi-inquiry-farmers-gamed-system-britain-green-heat-scheme-408176
273
18/02/2021 09:09:18 0 1
bbc
Yes, by insulating our homes.
353
18/02/2021 15:46:47 0 0
bbc
They should but they don't.
72
17/02/2021 11:18:53 1 3
bbc
CO2 emissions halved in an instant, perhaps Thanos was on to something.
73
Tex
17/02/2021 11:20:51 34 3
bbc
It would make more sense to remove VAT from insulation products, which would allow owners to install their own. The cowboys milking the scheme often leave a householder with more problems. Especially with cavity wll insulation which often increases damp problems. I have already spent half the price I paid to repair problems initiated by the previous owners so called improvements.
94
17/02/2021 11:44:41 10 4
bbc
Yep & solar & smart materials
Fortunately now we're out of the EU our Gov can remove VAT from those items if it wished, formerly the EU set the minimum rate & we had no say, we could go up if we wanted but not below the threshold they set
I'd also suggest on a lot of DIY stuff, it'll help stimulate the economy & folk need stuff to do at home seeing as we're not really allowed out.
96
17/02/2021 11:46:42 9 2
bbc
Yes.
A neighbour had their loft insulated to a high level using Rockwool.
Unfortunately the installers omitted to improve the ventilation.
Condensation was so bad it came through the ceilings.
All of it had to be ripped out.
So money down the pan, big repair bills and skipfulls of unusable insulation gone to landfill.
Some green initiative that was.
Installers the only winners.
277
18/02/2021 09:30:36 1 1
bbc
I had cavity wall insulation done in the 80s, it was really good, very noticeable if you got up at night after the central heating had gone off, the house remained warm.
74
17/02/2021 11:21:36 26 4
bbc
It just goes to show how serious this govt is about climate change.

Lots of flowery words, not backed up by deeds.
83
17/02/2021 11:29:56 27 2
bbc
Sadly, the government isn't alone. There's many large companies around the world whose 'green' credentials don't hold up. Almost as bad, there are organisations you can pay to join who will carry out a 'green audit' and issue your business with a certificate saying how great you are, yet none of it stands up to scrutiny. The green bandwagon is lucrative for many.
55
17/02/2021 10:57:05 4 3
bbc
I already have some roof insulation, on floor of roof which is partly boarded over and used for lots of storage. Moving that for a couple more inches thickness would be horrendous. I'd like to have insulating panels between rafters but that didn't seem to be an option when I looked into grants earlier.
75
17/02/2021 11:19:35 1 1
bbc
You don’t have to increase the floor insulation in your loft, you can have, under the grant, foam insulation between the rafters of the roof. Under the primary measures of the grant it comes under Pitch Insulation.
76
17/02/2021 11:25:16 30 10
bbc
RE: SOLAR PANELS (& insulation) There is a certain 'money saving expert' where you can calculate the cost of Solar Panels versus saving; it calculates MORE than 16 years+ to 'break even', the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years=LOSS.
You ONLY get anything if you are on benefits? Too many Cowboy installers quotes vary over £Thousands !!
This scheme is a FARCE.
85
17/02/2021 11:31:21 14 2
bbc
At least the 'money saving expert' has saved you money!
92
17/02/2021 11:43:24 13 3
bbc
"the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years"

It's actually 25 years for the panels, with some manufacturers offering a warranty for 25 years, and many expected to produce power long after that time, which renders your calculations and claims rather redundant.
93
17/02/2021 11:43:36 6 4
bbc
It also gets the poor to pay for the FITs scheme which I think is morally bankrupt.

A lot of the green schemes are green wash, and really dont solve issues.

Only some houses can benefit from the grant scheme, but the risk of the cowboy installer adds to the risk
97
17/02/2021 11:46:52 7 3
bbc
This is the issue, be on benefits to gain on these. Those of us on a reasonable wage that don't have too much to spare can't afford these projects. This means there will be a big band of middle band earners where none of these greener options are taken up with.
279
18/02/2021 09:37:12 0 1
bbc
It was the same with double glazing, twenty years to recover the cost and less than 20 years of life expectancy, yet nearly every house has double glazing.
70
17/02/2021 11:14:56 38 14
bbc
Could claw-back a lot more than 1.5bn quid by cancelling HS2.
77
17/02/2021 11:26:21 13 7
bbc
Must not cancel vanity projects, must they?
89
17/02/2021 11:37:31 8 3
bbc
You'd think that some of the lessons learned from the last 11 months would be that the daily commute is no longer necessary and with a good broadband connection, we can be anywhere in the country (or the world) in little more than a blink of the eye.
78
Tex
17/02/2021 11:26:56 6 10
bbc
Wind farms at sea are adding to carbon emmisions, as they get rid of the kelp forests, which are one of the most efficient carbon sinks. Heat pumps are expensive and have short lives. It is about time they worked on the root cause of the problem, too many humans!
91
17/02/2021 11:40:27 6 2
bbc
Problem is that your view is not seen as Green, but unspent grants are.

Sir David Attenborough the paragon of Greenness does discuss the population in a calm manner. Yet he gets ignored by the very same people who claim that they are being green by muddling unspent money with their usual political posturing.
95
17/02/2021 11:44:45 2 3
bbc
So are you suggesting we start culling humans?
Do we start with your family first?
115
17/02/2021 12:08:49 1 2
bbc
Tex - are you willing to make the sacrifice?
79
17/02/2021 11:27:54 5 9
bbc
Brexit benefit?
80
17/02/2021 11:28:01 12 5
bbc
Conservative MP Philip Dunne, who chairs the committee, told the BBC: “We need a long-term commitment to helping people insulate their homes – at the very least until the end of this Parliament

“We (Conservatives) promised £9.2bn for energy efficiency in our manifesto – and we have to deliver that or we won’t reach our climate change targets”

tories break election pledges

now there's a surprise
70
17/02/2021 11:14:56 38 14
bbc
Could claw-back a lot more than 1.5bn quid by cancelling HS2.
81
Tex
17/02/2021 11:28:47 4 4
bbc
It would reduce our carbon output as it is being laid out on a concrete base!
82
17/02/2021 11:27:38 10 1
bbc
By the time these schemes are sub-contracted down to bodger and badger they do more damage than good.
90
17/02/2021 11:38:25 6 2
bbc
I like it.
Don't forget those well known craftsmen Bodgit and Scarper.
It's a bit like the laying off of blame when some big scheme goes wrong and ends up with tea lady being the cause of all the trouble.
74
17/02/2021 11:21:36 26 4
bbc
It just goes to show how serious this govt is about climate change.

Lots of flowery words, not backed up by deeds.
83
17/02/2021 11:29:56 27 2
bbc
Sadly, the government isn't alone. There's many large companies around the world whose 'green' credentials don't hold up. Almost as bad, there are organisations you can pay to join who will carry out a 'green audit' and issue your business with a certificate saying how great you are, yet none of it stands up to scrutiny. The green bandwagon is lucrative for many.
84
17/02/2021 11:29:17 9 6
bbc
to barney100golf
Dave replied:
"Nobody voted for this government to state Carbon free by 2050"

It was one of their 6 key election manifesto promises.

It seems you did not know what you were voting for - I suspect this is not the first time either. ??'

We all suffer from their ignorance.
76
17/02/2021 11:25:16 30 10
bbc
RE: SOLAR PANELS (& insulation) There is a certain 'money saving expert' where you can calculate the cost of Solar Panels versus saving; it calculates MORE than 16 years+ to 'break even', the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years=LOSS.
You ONLY get anything if you are on benefits? Too many Cowboy installers quotes vary over £Thousands !!
This scheme is a FARCE.
85
17/02/2021 11:31:21 14 2
bbc
At least the 'money saving expert' has saved you money!
49
17/02/2021 10:47:18 3 4
bbc
Actually Rogers articles are very good.
I have read some of your posts and it seems you have a long way to go when it comes to understanding basic maths.
That could be your problem.
86
17/02/2021 11:32:47 1 1
bbc
"you have a long way to go when it comes to understanding basic maths."?????? Thanks for the laugh.

Point still remains the article is biased, it must have been beyond the ability of the eco-evangelists to ask the National Audit Office or the Public Accounts Committee for their views. Havent checked if Roger tweeted to FoE & XR for another "Call Me" for his facts!

There is finite money
87
17/02/2021 11:34:59 6 1
bbc
So because one scheme became a rip off because it was badly managed
Lets ensure this scheme can't be ripped off but we'll still badly manage it
60
17/02/2021 10:52:29 2 5
bbc
What about all the renters is there anything in their contacts that says the house/flat they rent must be insulated by the owners ? I suspect not.
88
17/02/2021 11:36:09 2 1
bbc
77
17/02/2021 11:26:21 13 7
bbc
Must not cancel vanity projects, must they?
89
17/02/2021 11:37:31 8 3
bbc
You'd think that some of the lessons learned from the last 11 months would be that the daily commute is no longer necessary and with a good broadband connection, we can be anywhere in the country (or the world) in little more than a blink of the eye.
110
17/02/2021 12:05:13 2 4
bbc
Not if your a plumber.
82
17/02/2021 11:27:38 10 1
bbc
By the time these schemes are sub-contracted down to bodger and badger they do more damage than good.
90
17/02/2021 11:38:25 6 2
bbc
I like it.
Don't forget those well known craftsmen Bodgit and Scarper.
It's a bit like the laying off of blame when some big scheme goes wrong and ends up with tea lady being the cause of all the trouble.
78
Tex
17/02/2021 11:26:56 6 10
bbc
Wind farms at sea are adding to carbon emmisions, as they get rid of the kelp forests, which are one of the most efficient carbon sinks. Heat pumps are expensive and have short lives. It is about time they worked on the root cause of the problem, too many humans!
91
17/02/2021 11:40:27 6 2
bbc
Problem is that your view is not seen as Green, but unspent grants are.

Sir David Attenborough the paragon of Greenness does discuss the population in a calm manner. Yet he gets ignored by the very same people who claim that they are being green by muddling unspent money with their usual political posturing.
76
17/02/2021 11:25:16 30 10
bbc
RE: SOLAR PANELS (& insulation) There is a certain 'money saving expert' where you can calculate the cost of Solar Panels versus saving; it calculates MORE than 16 years+ to 'break even', the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years=LOSS.
You ONLY get anything if you are on benefits? Too many Cowboy installers quotes vary over £Thousands !!
This scheme is a FARCE.
92
17/02/2021 11:43:24 13 3
bbc
"the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years"

It's actually 25 years for the panels, with some manufacturers offering a warranty for 25 years, and many expected to produce power long after that time, which renders your calculations and claims rather redundant.
76
17/02/2021 11:25:16 30 10
bbc
RE: SOLAR PANELS (& insulation) There is a certain 'money saving expert' where you can calculate the cost of Solar Panels versus saving; it calculates MORE than 16 years+ to 'break even', the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years=LOSS.
You ONLY get anything if you are on benefits? Too many Cowboy installers quotes vary over £Thousands !!
This scheme is a FARCE.
93
17/02/2021 11:43:36 6 4
bbc
It also gets the poor to pay for the FITs scheme which I think is morally bankrupt.

A lot of the green schemes are green wash, and really dont solve issues.

Only some houses can benefit from the grant scheme, but the risk of the cowboy installer adds to the risk
100
17/02/2021 11:50:50 6 3
bbc
"It also gets the poor to pay for the FITs scheme which I think is morally bankrupt."

Yet they do not, as the poor receive far more tax money back from the Warm Home Discount, Winter Fuel Payments, Energy Company Obligation.
73
Tex
17/02/2021 11:20:51 34 3
bbc
It would make more sense to remove VAT from insulation products, which would allow owners to install their own. The cowboys milking the scheme often leave a householder with more problems. Especially with cavity wll insulation which often increases damp problems. I have already spent half the price I paid to repair problems initiated by the previous owners so called improvements.
94
17/02/2021 11:44:41 10 4
bbc
Yep & solar & smart materials
Fortunately now we're out of the EU our Gov can remove VAT from those items if it wished, formerly the EU set the minimum rate & we had no say, we could go up if we wanted but not below the threshold they set
I'd also suggest on a lot of DIY stuff, it'll help stimulate the economy & folk need stuff to do at home seeing as we're not really allowed out.
278
18/02/2021 09:34:52 0 2
bbc
That was because of the single market, the whole idea was that it provided a level playing field for all the members. We had an exemption for food, we could have demanded the same for Sanitary protection and insulation, if we had chosen to, but the government at the time weren't interested enough.
78
Tex
17/02/2021 11:26:56 6 10
bbc
Wind farms at sea are adding to carbon emmisions, as they get rid of the kelp forests, which are one of the most efficient carbon sinks. Heat pumps are expensive and have short lives. It is about time they worked on the root cause of the problem, too many humans!
95
17/02/2021 11:44:45 2 3
bbc
So are you suggesting we start culling humans?
Do we start with your family first?
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17/02/2021 11:55:49 4 2
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https://youtu.be/NiBzbY-Gz0o

The WHO predicts that the global population has a 50% chance of exceeding 11 billion by 2100, which is worse than Sir DA optimistic view.

A green grant being wasted is totally pointless when compared to the damage of population growth.
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17/02/2021 13:17:48 1 1
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Except that was not what they suggested at all - other than that you're bang-on!
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17/02/2021 11:20:51 34 3
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It would make more sense to remove VAT from insulation products, which would allow owners to install their own. The cowboys milking the scheme often leave a householder with more problems. Especially with cavity wll insulation which often increases damp problems. I have already spent half the price I paid to repair problems initiated by the previous owners so called improvements.
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17/02/2021 11:46:42 9 2
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Yes.
A neighbour had their loft insulated to a high level using Rockwool.
Unfortunately the installers omitted to improve the ventilation.
Condensation was so bad it came through the ceilings.
All of it had to be ripped out.
So money down the pan, big repair bills and skipfulls of unusable insulation gone to landfill.
Some green initiative that was.
Installers the only winners.
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17/02/2021 11:25:16 30 10
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RE: SOLAR PANELS (& insulation) There is a certain 'money saving expert' where you can calculate the cost of Solar Panels versus saving; it calculates MORE than 16 years+ to 'break even', the 'life expectancy' of an 'average' solar system is.. less than 15 years=LOSS.
You ONLY get anything if you are on benefits? Too many Cowboy installers quotes vary over £Thousands !!
This scheme is a FARCE.
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17/02/2021 11:46:52 7 3
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This is the issue, be on benefits to gain on these. Those of us on a reasonable wage that don't have too much to spare can't afford these projects. This means there will be a big band of middle band earners where none of these greener options are taken up with.
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17/02/2021 11:47:10 8 7
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Construction of buildings and their subsequent use is estimated to cause up to 40% of CO2 emissions (concrete alone 8%). Adding a bit of insulation to old buildings is not going to fix that. Stopping population growth might.
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17/02/2021 10:40:46 23 26
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Nothing wrong with a bit of ventilation in one’s house, especially in these Covid riddled days.
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17/02/2021 11:50:30 4 2
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Ventilation can help to disperse Covid-19 or its mutation but you have to ask yourself how did the virus get into the house in the first place, if a member of the household has the virus and you don't live in a mansion doubt ventilation on its own will stop it spreadin, you could of course live outside??
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17/02/2021 11:43:36 6 4
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It also gets the poor to pay for the FITs scheme which I think is morally bankrupt.

A lot of the green schemes are green wash, and really dont solve issues.

Only some houses can benefit from the grant scheme, but the risk of the cowboy installer adds to the risk
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17/02/2021 11:50:50 6 3
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"It also gets the poor to pay for the FITs scheme which I think is morally bankrupt."

Yet they do not, as the poor receive far more tax money back from the Warm Home Discount, Winter Fuel Payments, Energy Company Obligation.
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17/02/2021 11:59:40 1 6
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Each unit of electricity is more expensive, which everyone pays for. The poor & JAMs are paying disproportionately more due to others gaining the system.

Are you happy with that?