Another new coronavirus variant seen in the UK
16/02/2021 | news | health | 2,099
It has similar mutations to the South Africa variant, so how worrying is it?
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16/02/2021 15:03:31 17 33
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I have seen a new variant in Sainsburys the other day can i get the naming rights for that please? The Sainsbury Variant .
Possibly followed by an Asda Variant and maybe even Lidl
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IG
16/02/2021 15:06:42 7 9
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It’s ridiculous isn’t it?
Surely the more money we pump in to “research” the more variants we’ll find. Where’s the line?
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16/02/2021 15:09:11 5 3
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Stupid comment
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16/02/2021 15:09:30 7 7
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I am petrified of the vegan variants. A virus that is both contagious and self righteous.
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16/02/2021 15:05:02 11 10
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To paraphrase Orwell: "We are at war with Covid-19. We have always been at war with Covid-19."
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16/02/2021 15:04:25 11 30
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How many New Zealand variants have there been?

Massive policy failure.
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16/02/2021 15:10:07 7 7
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Ah the first one in my list to blame the government... here we go...
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16/02/2021 15:11:10 5 3
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Today's Interesting Fact : Prior to the pandemic, there were roughly same number of passenger journeys made each day on the Underground as there are people living in New Zealand.
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16/02/2021 15:22:31 4 1
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A country half the size of London's population that hasnt started vaccines yet and will likely have to to stay in lockdown well into 2021?
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16/02/2021 15:05:50 320 124
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BBC: "Scientists have identified another new variant of coronavirus in the UK with some potentially troubling mutations."

Prof Ravi Gupta: "That is partly reassuring because we can predict what their likely effect is."

BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda.
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16/02/2021 15:11:56 118 38
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Don’t suppose any other channels do it eh?
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:13:51 11 3
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You missed the part out about how it is because *some* of the mutations have been seen before and in addition *some* have been seen in other countries.

That's crucial context. It means other elements remain an unknown.
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16/02/2021 15:14:29 20 6
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You'd of course prefer this news to be kept under wraps until it is fully understand.

Rather than make visible the fact that failing to follow basic preventative measures results in more opportunities for viral mutation to occur, with varying possible outcomes. One of which is potentially undermining the efficacy of our current "strategy".

Avoid infection and speed up return to normality.
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16/02/2021 15:14:59 22 7
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Except - Prof Ravi Gupta is referenced in the article? Think you've managed to misinterpret this into a doom mongering article, because that's the lens you're looking at it with.
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16/02/2021 15:33:02 6 5
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Well it is slightly doomy... this new variant has the "high transmitability" trait coupled with the "immune system avoiding" trait. That's new
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16/02/2021 15:38:37 32 10
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It is literally the news.

It is not an agenda.

Unlike the far-right agendas of most of the gutter printed media in the UK.
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16/02/2021 15:47:31 5 5
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Most new coronavirus cases in South Africa are caused by a new variant of COVID-19. The South African authorities have said that it may be more contagious than previous variants. Visitors arriving into the UK who have been in or transited through South Africa in the previous 10 days will not be permitted entry.

So maybe this variant could possibly be quite damaging. It's certainly worrying.
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16/02/2021 16:09:33 20 8
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Do you blame the BBC for the pandemic because they tell us about it? Anti-vaxxers and mask-refuseniks are the main vector for the continuing spread of CoVid, not the BBC. So you don't like the message. I'm not keen on it either but it isn't the messenger's fault.
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16/02/2021 16:27:45 9 4
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What do you want them to do then? Lie?
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16/02/2021 16:31:49 8 3
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Both those sentences are in the same article above, along with a lot of background information namely the article itself, which you obviously didn't absorb or understand at all.

Selecting 2 sentences from an article and then attaching a fatuous comment to 'prove' a point which is in fact not one at all is demonstrably & pathetically sad.
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16/02/2021 16:37:23 5 3
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people need to stop having parties with 150 other people. its not a doom agenda its reporting to people who want to know if you dont stop reading the the beeb and start watching something else that will coddle you with platitudes you want to hear, there there it will all be alright in the end, will that do?
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16/02/2021 16:47:04 3 4
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Eh? "partly reassuring" = "doom"? I don't get it.

Personally, I like to keep abreast of developments, and would rather not have news outlets soft-peddling potential threats just to make me feel a little better.
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16/02/2021 16:52:23 3 2
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"BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda."

Yeah they should have more uplifting, truthful and fair headlines, like tabloids...
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16/02/2021 17:49:51 0 1
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So you think Ravi Gupta is a doom-monger?
Or what do y mean?
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16/02/2021 18:02:33 3 1
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Just the usual anti BBC brigade at work.
16/02/2021 18:16:22 0 1
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They should only put out good news.
Being kept informed of the latest developments , which might or might not affect our future, is plainly not something we need to be informed about.
16/02/2021 18:27:20 1 1
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Why. Are you scared? If not why do assume others are?
Arrogance?
16/02/2021 19:13:47 1 1
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Simpletons need to stop moaning about imagined doom agendas, especially when they have silly handles like TheDarkHalf
16/02/2021 21:16:18 0 1
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Will the newspapers not inform their readers. Football teams win and loose but the media make a big thing of it even though it will have less of an impact that Covid mutations.
17/02/2021 01:05:53 0 2
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Selective quotes.
Read the whole article.
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16/02/2021 15:05:55 480 150
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3 Words constantly used by the BBC , Could , Maybe and Possibly
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16/02/2021 15:09:53 262 18
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We live in an uncertain world - always have and always will.

You don't need to start worrying unless news reports on uncertain topics contain words like "undeniably" and "definitely".
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16/02/2021 15:10:25 44 25
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Like Brexiteers when explaining the apparent benefits of their idea?
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Mr
16/02/2021 15:32:18 7 6
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Could.............generate some £10,000 fines
Maybe............some 10 year prison sentences
Possibly.........create thousands/millions of enemies of the State
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16/02/2021 15:36:48 17 12
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When many people are finding it hard and sometimes even intolerable to deal with the many bad things that actually are happening right now; I do wish news outlets would refrain from releasing reports that are founded on the mere conjecture; of ""could", "might", "possibly" or "Maybe".

Reality is tough enough without heaping on more pain.

(Oh, I get it - "bad news sells".)
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16/02/2021 15:37:05 21 2
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Three words also constantly used in peer-reviewed scientific research.

There are no certainties in life (death and taxes aside).
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16/02/2021 15:37:34 28 4
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If you listen to real scientists rather than the tabloid headlines you'd notice that they carefully avoid expressing certainty, and for good reason. The BBC are doing the same. The danger comes from those among the rest of the population who claim absolute knowledge. But you're obviously not one of those, right?
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16/02/2021 15:39:36 13 2
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And would you prefer them to lie, like the Sun, Mail, Express, for example? Or perhaps they are right to inform us of the current scientific opinion?
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Pip
16/02/2021 15:40:03 1 2
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That's the trouble when you're trying to report on what politicians are saying, could be, maybe and possibly.........?
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Tom
16/02/2021 15:51:37 3 12
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Yes. That really gets my goat. in a recent thought it was "possible" that an aircraft "could" fall out of the sky. Maybe this would result in massive casualties. That's not a journalistic sentence but a mere extrapolation of the facts. Aircraft fly, therefore they can also crash.

I really wish journalists would just report facts and allow readers to draw their own conclusions.
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YWP
16/02/2021 15:56:36 14 1
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This sounds like sensible journalism. Have you noticed how Bob on facebook with no qualifications is absolutely certain he knows what's going on with this virus, but the doctors with decades of experience and (decent) journalists hedge their language more?

Don't be like Bob.
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16/02/2021 16:03:53 0 2
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Does that refer to how they may get more viewers?
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16/02/2021 16:08:39 5 4
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Are you talking about "Bozo Blithering Clown" perhaps
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16/02/2021 16:13:32 3 9
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Because they can;t be bothered to do any real reporting these days, unless it is on 'woke' issues that most people couldn't give two figs about.
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16/02/2021 16:18:59 7 1
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Thats because it is often all of those. Probably is usually as good as it gets in scientific analysis re this pandemic, so we should Ok with that.

The 'definately' stuff which is endemic in the Populars is constantly being proven to be red herrings or plain wrong.

But one thing we can be 100% certain of is the anti BBC trolls would be on here complaining if they did that
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16/02/2021 16:19:50 0 5
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"3 years of journalism school, 200 coffee's made and 2 favours, and they get me to write a headline which contains "may" "
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16/02/2021 16:31:30 3 1
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so go elsewhere for your news and see if its any different
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16/02/2021 16:37:50 0 1
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That is the trouble with the English language. It is full of meaningless words that get us nowhere.
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16/02/2021 16:38:17 7 1
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Sounds reasonable to me - nothing scarier than those who claim certainty in an uncertain world.
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16/02/2021 18:01:35 2 1
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Not used once in that article by the BBC, just in your head then eh.
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16/02/2021 15:06:06 10 10
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"There is currently no evidence that this set of mutations causes more severe illness or increased transmissibility"

This is what we said last time, and it turned out the last one did both <_<
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Stu
16/02/2021 15:15:05 2 1
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From here, in UK . . .
We still don't have enough information to be sure if that's correct or not.
I had my first jab a week ago and I'm just hoping (optimistically! ) that it works fine.
(best wishes to those in Canada, I understand you're having problems getting vaccines)
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16/02/2021 15:17:05 1 1
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More transmissable, true. Increase in severity of illness, not true.
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16/02/2021 15:30:10 0 1
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Err, yes they did. Just before xmas. 'New Variant is 70% More Transmissible'. Remember that? It was the first thing we ever heard about the Kent variant. Turns out its actually lower than that (30-50%). However, it is certainly not more dangerous in terms of how severe the illness is, nor was it ever claimed to be
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16/02/2021 15:32:09 0 1
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It's the science equivalent of "it's too soon to say"
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16/02/2021 15:07:02 12 14
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As they keep saying on radio and tv, virus’ change minutely every time they reproduce. So this is not news. Just scaremongering.

A new variant, should we be scared? Don’t know...just FYI be scared just in case.
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:15:02 11 4
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No, it is news reporting.

If it made you scared, well that's an issue for you to resolve within yourself.
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16/02/2021 15:07:06 100 55
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Must Must find a negative now that the vaccine program is going so well, how many times must it be said, like flu it will constantly mutate to survive and our brilliant scientists will adapt the jab as necessary.
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16/02/2021 15:43:50 13 17
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[citation needed]
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16/02/2021 16:43:12 2 6
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If you bothered reading the article, that point was made.

Hopefully thats fixed it for you.
911
16/02/2021 17:50:55 2 1
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Here's some positive news, available on the BBC, but well hidden: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56084466
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16/02/2021 18:06:46 3 1
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The flu vaccine isn't effective every year, as predicting which strains are going to be prevalent, is notoriously difficult.
16/02/2021 22:59:38 0 1
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How do you know it will be possible for our brilliant scientists will adapt the jab as necessary?
17/02/2021 06:17:49 0 2
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"it will constantly mutate to survive and our brilliant scientists will adapt the jab as necessary."

Yeah, 6 months to creat and deliver vaccine, 6 more months administering vaccine, what could possibly go wrong.
BTW, no one is vaccinated yet, they've only had one shot which is like 20% efficacy.
rob
17/02/2021 09:14:51 0 1
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So don't report on science or news then? That can affect millions of people. By the way covid is deadlier than the flu
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tim
16/02/2021 15:07:22 4 5
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It will be interesting to see how mankind adapts to the threat posed by these new mutations - there's nothing quite like a challenge to keep us on our toes!
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16/02/2021 15:07:34 127 72
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More media scaremongering. Viruses mutate - evolve to survive - as every living organism does or it becomes extinct. Vaccines can be modified to manage mutations as they have done with flu every year.
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16/02/2021 15:25:07 87 115
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Nice to see that the "Let's bury our heads in the sand" Brigade has arrived
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16/02/2021 15:36:42 3 6
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There is an a yet unresolved debate in scientific circles as wo whether viruses are in fact forms of life but I agree with your basic point.
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16/02/2021 15:37:56 15 4
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Can you imagine the uproar if a new variant emerged that meant the vaccine you were given *might* be ineffective and it turned out that the media knew about it without reporting it?

They literally cannot win. This is just news. Uncertain, fresh and unconfirmed news
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16/02/2021 16:11:22 2 5
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I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that you are on the case.
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16/02/2021 17:57:53 8 2
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SARS COV 2 mutated from a predecessor virus that could not originally infect human hosts. Now it's in us, it will refine its game. The more human hosts, the more opportunity for further mutations to improve its infectiousness - lethality being incidental. So... if you don't think tracking the frequency of mutations is newsworthy then you might not have been paying attention thus far.
16/02/2021 22:59:05 2 4
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"Vaccines can be modified to manage mutations "

How do you know this? (Hint: you don't, you just made it up!)
17/02/2021 06:16:03 0 1
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Shame you couldn't mutate into someone who isn't in denial.
rob
17/02/2021 09:13:23 1 1
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There we are, bish bash bosh easy, get down to the shed then and start making the next vaccine!!! Oh and this virus is deadlier than the flu so the comparisons are a bit skewed
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16/02/2021 15:03:31 17 33
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I have seen a new variant in Sainsburys the other day can i get the naming rights for that please? The Sainsbury Variant .
Possibly followed by an Asda Variant and maybe even Lidl
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IG
16/02/2021 15:06:42 7 9
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It’s ridiculous isn’t it?
Surely the more money we pump in to “research” the more variants we’ll find. Where’s the line?
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16/02/2021 15:15:28 4 1
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So should we just close our eyes and hope it all goes away?
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16/02/2021 15:08:17 6 10
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Anniversary scare?
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16/02/2021 15:03:31 17 33
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I have seen a new variant in Sainsburys the other day can i get the naming rights for that please? The Sainsbury Variant .
Possibly followed by an Asda Variant and maybe even Lidl
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16/02/2021 15:09:11 5 3
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Stupid comment
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16/02/2021 15:03:31 17 33
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I have seen a new variant in Sainsburys the other day can i get the naming rights for that please? The Sainsbury Variant .
Possibly followed by an Asda Variant and maybe even Lidl
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16/02/2021 15:09:30 7 7
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I am petrified of the vegan variants. A virus that is both contagious and self righteous.
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16/02/2021 15:05:55 480 150
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3 Words constantly used by the BBC , Could , Maybe and Possibly
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16/02/2021 15:09:53 262 18
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We live in an uncertain world - always have and always will.

You don't need to start worrying unless news reports on uncertain topics contain words like "undeniably" and "definitely".
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16/02/2021 15:26:30 0 9
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Do you definitely mean that?
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16/02/2021 15:37:21 4 12
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You assume everyone is like you, unfortunately this 'Could, Maybe and Possibly' report will make many people worry about the future over something currently too soon to say.
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16/02/2021 15:39:57 0 2
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... and "Irreversible".
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16/02/2021 15:44:03 4 1
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Start worrying when the government deny something...
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16/02/2021 16:13:49 0 7
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You mean like media reports that are 'undeniably' anti UK / Tory and 'definitely' negative on every topic ?
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IAN
16/02/2021 16:42:52 1 2
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We have always lived in an uncertain world
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16/02/2021 17:34:53 2 2
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Undeniably, definitely waiting for evidence are why we have had 115,000 deaths. Anticipation, caution and learning from others should be our watch words. Australia 1000 deaths, New Zealand 46 yes 46 only . plus more sociallt open and economically active. Arrogance, headline chasing & stupidity should apply to our approach .
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16/02/2021 17:46:57 0 1
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By which time it’s too late, sadly.
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16/02/2021 15:10:03 209 114
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Well done BBC, you've scratched around for some negative news and come up with this report.

The experts say,

It is too soon to say if it should be added to the UK's list of "variants of concern" ...

May be it's too soon to be reporting it then.
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16/02/2021 15:12:40 81 31
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With so little data, the interns were able to come up with a lot of words
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16/02/2021 15:14:14 19 7
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It isn't negative. It just is.

If, in two months, it turns out that this is a dangerous variant that is resistant to the vaccines, you'd all be saying "why weren't we told about it at the time?"
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16/02/2021 15:24:29 18 6
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And then be accused of a cover up? They can't win. Just doing their job
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16/02/2021 16:09:34 2 8
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"Bozo Blithering Clown"
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16/02/2021 16:30:35 7 2
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The 'Kent' variant was spreading rapidly before it got a name. The government should have taken action sooner
on that one.
I for one am pleased to learn that scientists are researching all known variants. I am not worried, but we need to remain cautious.
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16/02/2021 17:02:24 2 3
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The BBC only wants us to hear doom and gloom, scare news, negative news - that is how you control.... some of the people.
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16/02/2021 17:53:09 2 2
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Or, there again, maybe not!
If the report is not nws,why comment?
Removed
16/02/2021 19:05:48 1 3
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So someone finds something, but you don't think it should be reported. You don't believe in a free press then? You believe some news should be suppressed? Careful what you wish for.
16/02/2021 19:31:18 1 1
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Absolutely, just wait for BBC Breakfast to get hold of this tomorrow. Interviewing at its absolute worst. How politicians can remain professional when bombarded with the inane questions from Louise and co. This morning's programme was a shambles
16/02/2021 22:07:06 1 2
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Well said
16/02/2021 22:16:21 1 1
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Haha niceone, these bbc bashing comments don’t get old. Fantastically witty. More more. Please come back...
16/02/2021 22:56:40 0 1
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If it wasn't reported and turns out to be more transmissable and more deadly...

Future You: Why have I not heard about it? Why was it not reported as soon as it was discovered? Why was it covered up? blah blah blah
17/02/2021 01:11:12 0 1
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But if the bbc says that scientists say it is too soon to be added to the list of concerns, shouldn't you be reassured to know that?
I am.
Bow would yku know, otherwise?
17/02/2021 01:51:42 0 1
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So if they don't report it people would be crying cover up.
17/02/2021 09:06:57 0 0
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What would you rather the news of it breaks after it’s got worse then it would be “liberal marxist bbc always hiding things in public interest!” And why are these comments never about the sensationalist whip-up Daily Fail!!! It’s never their fault for the same complaints toward the BBC!
qaz
17/02/2021 09:07:25 0 0
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“The experts say,
It is too soon to say if it should be added to the UK's list of "variants of concern" ...
May be it's too soon to be reporting it then”

I imagine that was exactly the same thought process a year ago.
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16/02/2021 15:04:25 11 30
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How many New Zealand variants have there been?

Massive policy failure.
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16/02/2021 15:10:07 7 7
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Ah the first one in my list to blame the government... here we go...
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16/02/2021 15:18:52 2 4
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Imagine that! Blame the government for its policy failures.
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Rob
16/02/2021 15:10:11 0 12
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Why scientist are not making whole virion inactivated vaccine which is much more mutation resistant . Now the scientists are making a new vaccine for the variants and what's the guarantee that the spike of the virus stay straight next winter or virus shed the whole spike this summer and look like a foot ball next winter ??
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16/02/2021 15:13:33 5 1
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I wonder why they did not think of that? You know with your expertise you should be involved - you obviously know better than thousands of experts in the field.
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16/02/2021 15:21:01 0 1
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Utter drivel.
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3 Words constantly used by the BBC , Could , Maybe and Possibly
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16/02/2021 15:10:25 44 25
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Like Brexiteers when explaining the apparent benefits of their idea?
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16/02/2021 15:16:18 39 17
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No, they gave up trying to find any benefits of Brexit months ago.
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16/02/2021 15:27:00 17 23
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Give it a rest for goodness sake.
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16/02/2021 16:23:17 3 10
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give it a rest, do you know sad you look
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16/02/2021 17:08:43 0 6
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The different handling of the vaccine roll out is enough to convince most people of the benefits of Brexit. UK was particularly vulnerable, because so many people come here for business/holiday/family (the latter thanks to our welcoming ways with people from distant lands), so no surprise we were hit hard first off, but medically and scientifically we are way ahead of the EU.
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16/02/2021 15:10:42 53 17
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Clever things, Viruses.

One of nature's tools that strive to restore a proper balance between the populations of species.
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16/02/2021 15:15:02 20 11
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Yep, we have the Plague so all we need now is War and Famine for a Full House!...
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16/02/2021 16:47:57 3 1
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Viruses do not strive to do anything. They are not conscious.
rob
17/02/2021 09:17:20 0 1
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No it doesn't strive to do anything, its not alive it isn't trying to survive. Nature isn't a concious being and there is no such thing as balance in nature, nature is unbalanced if it was balanced everything would die
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16/02/2021 15:10:53 6 18
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If there ever was a time to panic, this is it.
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I do think that mutations are being made more of a concern than needed, given it’s normal for a virus to mutate and we’ve been told the vaccines can be adjusted and re-issued if needed.

Either way, this isn’t going away and as long as we take the sting out of the virus with vaccines and drug treatments, there shouldn’t be a big concern long-term.
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16/02/2021 15:23:25 327 165
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The problem is the lead time to having these new vaccines available and administered. We've been going full pelt in a world leading Herculean effort and have only just managed to give a quarter of the population one jab.

All this because we are not being decisive in closing borders and not learning lessons by lifting lockdown too early. I am sick of lurching from one lockdown to another.
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16/02/2021 15:30:15 57 15
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And if the vaccines can't keep on top of it?

Would it not be prudent for people to do what they're being asked and do everything they can to stop spreading the virus?
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:31:25 21 13
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It is normal, but this virus is itself a descendent of a virus we've had before. That version had a much higher mortality rate than this evolved version. It also belongs to the same group as MERS which is very deadly.

So it is important to monitor for mutations that could replicate the behaviour seen in those very similar viruses from the same family.

No one forces you to click the story.
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16/02/2021 15:35:51 16 28
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Interesting speculations. And what are your qualifications, exactly?
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16/02/2021 15:38:55 16 17
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Yes the vaccines can be adjusted, but this takes time and in the meantime if it keeps mutating, then it is highly likely that the vaccines will become ineffective.
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16/02/2021 16:03:04 10 11
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At last a voice of reason in a sea of hysteria.
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16/02/2021 16:28:09 7 3
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Really, bit of a fly away comment, yes viruses do mutate, and most mutations are pretty harmless, however, some aren't. Check bird flu, it mutated and although difficult to transfer to humans and from human to human, it was pretty deadly.
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16/02/2021 16:27:12 11 11
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This just proves how unnecessary the border restrictions are. As much chance of a home grown mutation as an imported one but these overzealous restrictions are doing untold damage to the economy, not to mention families and mental health. Wake up and open up.
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Sam
16/02/2021 16:49:28 20 1
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I'm more worried about the take up of vaccines once we reach those under 50s. The youth aren't at much risk so may refuse it, which will likely mean more virus in circulation, increased risk of variants, and illness as vaccines do not give 100% protection. Gov seems reluctant to have restrictions based on vaccination status, but we need a bit of a stick as well as a carrot to keep the uptake up.
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16/02/2021 17:19:08 4 13
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The intellectually challenged slavish tory supporter is another widely found variant; when will we get a vaccine for this variant?
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16/02/2021 17:39:03 6 1
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Having lot of mutations means lot of tinkering the multiple vaccines by multiple providers. The matrix gets quite big; which works for which.. and the work of promptly jab billions and billions around the world.

..And after 3 to 6 months the vaccine wears off, so the project never ends..

This will be marathon, alas.
871
16/02/2021 17:40:55 3 5
bbc
I haven't died so it's not too bad?
Stop being blasé about it. Having back to back flu at any age is bad. Get a grip.
880
16/02/2021 17:42:35 4 2
bbc
Ah, closing borders. I agree that we could have been more robust recently but a year ago it was not possible and was already too late.
What is more concerning is that we have loopholes that are allowing people from red countries to not quarantine. All inbound travel should quarantine now. Unfortunately there are just too many how believe they have a valid reason to travel so it is too difficult.
956
16/02/2021 18:03:10 4 3
bbc
we are being kept informed in order for people to follow covid protocol and stop the attitude its ok to break rules
973
16/02/2021 18:06:17 5 2
bbc
You're completely correct. It absolutely gets on my nerves that the media and therefore uneducated Joe Public feel they've learnt that variants are a new thing and a dangerous threat to the CV19 vaccines. The media is responsible for hysteria by purposefully not fairly explaining this. Shame on them.
986
16/02/2021 18:10:23 3 1
bbc
I understand your point of view but the logistics and costs of reissuing the vaccine are off the scale
16/02/2021 19:20:17 2 2
bbc
Actually even worse than this article makes out as there is now a recombinant strain found in LA, not created by mutation but by a combination process in a cell infected with 2 strains.
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16/02/2021 15:04:25 11 30
bbc
How many New Zealand variants have there been?

Massive policy failure.
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16/02/2021 15:11:10 5 3
bbc
Today's Interesting Fact : Prior to the pandemic, there were roughly same number of passenger journeys made each day on the Underground as there are people living in New Zealand.
87
16/02/2021 15:20:02 1 3
bbc
Vietnam then.
4
16/02/2021 15:05:50 320 124
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BBC: "Scientists have identified another new variant of coronavirus in the UK with some potentially troubling mutations."

Prof Ravi Gupta: "That is partly reassuring because we can predict what their likely effect is."

BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda.
24
16/02/2021 15:11:56 118 38
bbc
Don’t suppose any other channels do it eh?
423
16/02/2021 16:20:52 1 5
bbc
no but you can switch them off..
579
16/02/2021 16:49:05 2 9
bbc
Please give an example of a news channel that sensationalises Covid reporting like the BBC.
863
16/02/2021 17:38:27 0 1
bbc
Realism not phoney optimism and arrogance
932
16/02/2021 17:57:10 0 3
bbc
None that I have to pay monthly for or risk prosecution for any 'live' tv that I may watch. Not what I want my licence fee being used for .
943
16/02/2021 18:00:48 0 1
bbc
Two wrongs don't make a right.
16/02/2021 18:01:58 0 3
bbc
not as badly as bbc , or cnn
Amy
16/02/2021 18:31:06 1 1
bbc
the main channels are not peddling a doom agenda. They are telling you as it is.
17/02/2021 00:25:09 0 1
bbc
We are not commenting on other channels forums at this moment in time though are we
17/02/2021 08:01:01 0 1
bbc
Yes but the BBC is the worst culprit by far ! doom & gloom all the way with the BBC. Anti Governmentr at every turn & all paid for by us..
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16/02/2021 15:12:23 107 43
bbc
Mutations are going to continue to be a problem while spread is high (in any country). The way to reduce the risk is to vaccinate everyone, everywhere. The effort needs to continue globally. No one is vaccinated until everyone is vaccinated.
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16/02/2021 15:37:40 63 17
bbc
"No one is vaccinated until everyone is vaccinated."
No, No one is as safe as possible until everyone is vaccinated.
Any vaccination will improve everyone's chances and universal vaccination will, hopefully, leave the virus with no hosts to infect.
Unfortunately there will always be a few for whom the vaccine doesn't work or who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. They need to be protected.
No, because naturally acquired immunity works too.
Do we vaccinate everybody for flu, or for colds?
Did you know that already 4 coronaviruses that circulate freely within the human population and have done for several generations?
They rarely cause bother except in very elderly / sick, for others its a cold / cough, maybe a touch of fever, but we all get exposed to these every few years.
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16/02/2021 16:31:33 9 2
bbc
vaccinations are one part of the process. not everyone has to be vaccinated before "solution"
583
16/02/2021 16:49:32 1 1
bbc
After 3 months of effort, the World has vaccinated only 2.3% of the population - this is a long way from being sufficient. Most EU countries are hovering around the 5% mark
666
16/02/2021 17:03:30 5 5
bbc
Viruses mutate the whole time, the original strain went last year. No vaccine can stop them - a healthy immune system will however.
16/02/2021 19:42:19 2 1
bbc
Not quite true, when the susceptible population is reduced to 50% and R0 virus of 2 ceases to be a community threat
16/02/2021 22:53:39 0 1
bbc
It's almost impossible to believe someone could be this wrong.
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16/02/2021 15:10:03 209 114
bbc
Well done BBC, you've scratched around for some negative news and come up with this report.

The experts say,

It is too soon to say if it should be added to the UK's list of "variants of concern" ...

May be it's too soon to be reporting it then.
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16/02/2021 15:12:40 81 31
bbc
With so little data, the interns were able to come up with a lot of words
27
16/02/2021 15:12:56 6 10
bbc
Perhaps the nationalists who like to think the Oxford vaccine (developed by a multinational team in a half Swedish company, approved by the EU and manufactured in the EU) isn't the definitive world-beating cure.

It pays to be cautious in a global pandemic.
49
16/02/2021 15:16:19 3 5
bbc
Largely incorrect but you keep right on with you false confirmation bias.
52
16/02/2021 15:17:14 2 2
bbc
It pays to review the construction of your posts prior to posting a chunk of irrelevant Remain-centred bile.
73
16/02/2021 15:20:24 2 2
bbc
It's unfortunate (intentional?) that you failed to mention that we approved it before the EU did - which is one of the reasons their vaccination roll-out is a very long way behind ours.
28
16/02/2021 15:13:10 4 19
bbc
Boris couldn't care
66
16/02/2021 15:19:39 5 4
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Robertthebruce10
What an absolutely stupid comment.
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AKS
16/02/2021 15:13:14 3 16
bbc
BBC are unbelievable literally
45
16/02/2021 15:15:35 3 2
bbc
"BBC are unbelievable literally"

I can't believe this - it is on the BBC website...

Rolleyes!
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Rob
16/02/2021 15:10:11 0 12
bbc
Why scientist are not making whole virion inactivated vaccine which is much more mutation resistant . Now the scientists are making a new vaccine for the variants and what's the guarantee that the spike of the virus stay straight next winter or virus shed the whole spike this summer and look like a foot ball next winter ??
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16/02/2021 15:13:33 5 1
bbc
I wonder why they did not think of that? You know with your expertise you should be involved - you obviously know better than thousands of experts in the field.
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Rob
16/02/2021 15:19:17 0 1
bbc
Whole virion antibodies are produced against the spike, the shell and multiple structures of the virus. The old school of vaccines. Spike alone always the risk.
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16/02/2021 15:05:50 320 124
bbc
BBC: "Scientists have identified another new variant of coronavirus in the UK with some potentially troubling mutations."

Prof Ravi Gupta: "That is partly reassuring because we can predict what their likely effect is."

BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda.
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:13:51 11 3
bbc
You missed the part out about how it is because *some* of the mutations have been seen before and in addition *some* have been seen in other countries.

That's crucial context. It means other elements remain an unknown.
16
16/02/2021 15:10:03 209 114
bbc
Well done BBC, you've scratched around for some negative news and come up with this report.

The experts say,

It is too soon to say if it should be added to the UK's list of "variants of concern" ...

May be it's too soon to be reporting it then.
32
16/02/2021 15:14:14 19 7
bbc
It isn't negative. It just is.

If, in two months, it turns out that this is a dangerous variant that is resistant to the vaccines, you'd all be saying "why weren't we told about it at the time?"
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16/02/2021 15:27:18 6 10
bbc
It appears the South African variant is resistant to the current vaccines so we will all require a 'booster' later on.

So what you're saying has already happened and will most likely continue to mutate for many years to come.

The media can't go on reporting every variant, it'll become very tiresome, it's just part of the new 'norm'.
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37p
16/02/2021 16:23:19 5 2
bbc
Lots of things "just are". That doesn't make them news and the don't need to be front page headlines.
When there's some certainty that it will have an impact then it will be news.
33
16/02/2021 15:14:18 23 16
bbc
I wonder what all these folks complaining about the BBC reporting it had found out about it from somewhere else?

Complained about rubbish reporting by the BBC, no doubt...
786
16/02/2021 17:22:11 2 3
bbc
Probably all members of DefundTheBBC as well ...
BBC News, now trusted less than ITV, Channel4 and even Murdoch... Removed
51
16/02/2021 15:17:12 3 1
bbc
And, of course, I should believe Mr Angel about this, should I?
35
16/02/2021 15:14:27 83 57
bbc
Its a virus
It mutates
Why is this news?
177
16/02/2021 15:36:50 65 32
bbc
Because it matters when it does.
228
16/02/2021 15:43:12 6 4
bbc
Because it is news.
283
16/02/2021 15:56:29 3 4
bbc
Because some variants will spread faster or cause more deaths.

Some will require further action.
300
16/02/2021 15:59:20 1 2
bbc
Why are you bothered?
467
16/02/2021 16:29:35 1 5
bbc
slo news day
533
16/02/2021 16:41:41 4 3
bbc
Because it gives the hard of thinking a chance to make a fatuous comment.
16/02/2021 21:12:22 0 1
bbc
So we can understand the actions of government.
4
16/02/2021 15:05:50 320 124
bbc
BBC: "Scientists have identified another new variant of coronavirus in the UK with some potentially troubling mutations."

Prof Ravi Gupta: "That is partly reassuring because we can predict what their likely effect is."

BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda.
36
16/02/2021 15:14:29 20 6
bbc
You'd of course prefer this news to be kept under wraps until it is fully understand.

Rather than make visible the fact that failing to follow basic preventative measures results in more opportunities for viral mutation to occur, with varying possible outcomes. One of which is potentially undermining the efficacy of our current "strategy".

Avoid infection and speed up return to normality.
4
16/02/2021 15:05:50 320 124
bbc
BBC: "Scientists have identified another new variant of coronavirus in the UK with some potentially troubling mutations."

Prof Ravi Gupta: "That is partly reassuring because we can predict what their likely effect is."

BBC need to stop peddling this doom agenda.
37
16/02/2021 15:14:59 22 7
bbc
Except - Prof Ravi Gupta is referenced in the article? Think you've managed to misinterpret this into a doom mongering article, because that's the lens you're looking at it with.
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16/02/2021 15:07:02 12 14
bbc
As they keep saying on radio and tv, virus’ change minutely every time they reproduce. So this is not news. Just scaremongering.

A new variant, should we be scared? Don’t know...just FYI be scared just in case.
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:15:02 11 4
bbc
No, it is news reporting.

If it made you scared, well that's an issue for you to resolve within yourself.
57
16/02/2021 15:18:33 1 7
bbc
This isn’t news, this is fishing for a story when one is not yet there, or at least fully formed.
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16/02/2021 15:06:06 10 10
bbc
"There is currently no evidence that this set of mutations causes more severe illness or increased transmissibility"

This is what we said last time, and it turned out the last one did both <_<
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Stu
16/02/2021 15:15:05 2 1
bbc
From here, in UK . . .
We still don't have enough information to be sure if that's correct or not.
I had my first jab a week ago and I'm just hoping (optimistically! ) that it works fine.
(best wishes to those in Canada, I understand you're having problems getting vaccines)
Watch out for the Glasgow variant. Additional symptoms are bleeding nose and watery eyes. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:18:07 1 2
bbc
I'm Glaswegian and please accept my apologies for offering light relief to a horrendous situation in advance.
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16/02/2021 15:15:10 14 10
bbc
Get everyone in hotel quarantine like they have in Scotland
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16/02/2021 15:15:19 29 25
bbc
We'd rather BBC supported the vaccine roll out.
BBC, please show some hopeful stories, how medics have visited vulnerable and vaccinated them. How the 70+ population are attending GPs for vaccines etc.
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16/02/2021 15:20:06 19 12
bbc
Ostriches leap to mind…
346
16/02/2021 16:07:26 0 1
bbc
The BBC is reporting that too.
419
16/02/2021 16:17:35 0 1
bbc
When has the BBC not supported the vaccine roll out then? The BBC is a news organisation; it is not here to "show some hopeful stories".
514
16/02/2021 16:38:09 0 1
bbc
There have been plenty of positive vaccine stories on the BBC. Perhaps your glass is half empty...
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16/02/2021 15:15:27 2 10
bbc
Quick BoJo, lockdown immediately!
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IG
16/02/2021 15:06:42 7 9
bbc
It’s ridiculous isn’t it?
Surely the more money we pump in to “research” the more variants we’ll find. Where’s the line?
44
16/02/2021 15:15:28 4 1
bbc
So should we just close our eyes and hope it all goes away?
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AKS
16/02/2021 15:13:14 3 16
bbc
BBC are unbelievable literally
45
16/02/2021 15:15:35 3 2
bbc
"BBC are unbelievable literally"

I can't believe this - it is on the BBC website...

Rolleyes!
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16/02/2021 15:15:47 365 71
bbc
I appreciate it is global news but wish the media would think about the hysteria they're creating. I'm no scientist but the Coronavirus will mutate, just as flu does. It will not be a one time vaccine and we will need boosters yearly to cater new variants. If a variant renders vaccines completely useless, then OK but if it stops hospitalisation and death, the risk is at an acceptable level.
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16/02/2021 15:22:17 156 294
bbc
It's not hysteria, it's news!
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16/02/2021 15:25:06 19 6
bbc
Thank you, someone who talks sense. That last statement you make is spot on. As long as the vaccines are effective at preventing severe illness, like the data says they are (even the dreaded SA variant), that is what really matters.
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16/02/2021 15:29:49 12 5
bbc
I'm afraid it's the old newspaper adage "If it bleeds, it leads"
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16/02/2021 15:42:03 16 23
bbc
So you'd prefer not to know what's happening with it then?

I can guarantee if someone suddenly told you there were a dozen different mutations you'd be the first frothing "WHY WEREN'T WE TOLD THIS!"
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YWP
16/02/2021 16:00:52 8 2
bbc
I guess we should imagine the opposite. A media that didn't tell us what to expect, and just repeated everything would be fine.

That doesn't sound like a great place to be either.

A serious new variant of a virus has been found in the midst of a global pandemic. The language in the article is sufficiently hedged (I feel) to avoid panic, while informing of a potential future danger.
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16/02/2021 16:03:33 2 1
bbc
For a "footiefan", you sound like an expert in epidemiology. I'm being ironic, of course. What does your final sentence actually mean? Its implication is that a mutation which allows SARS-CoV-2 to ignore our vaccines is "OK". Such a variant will not "stop[s] hospitalisation and death". It will increase both.
488
16/02/2021 16:29:49 0 2
bbc
Never mind the facts, what's the story?
517
16/02/2021 16:38:22 1 2
bbc
Media outlets have gone from reporting the news to making the news. Whenever there is a region lockdown, cue reporter to travel to border and start interviewing people on both sides of street and highlighting how "confused" everyone is and how "absurd" the rules of what you can and can't do. You are arguing with a virus which doesn't care what you want.
538
16/02/2021 16:42:35 2 1
bbc
What hysteria? Apart from on these (and other) forums, I'm really not seeing it in real life.

Give people a little credit for evaluating news for themselves. It's almost as if you *want* people to be hysterical.
560
16/02/2021 16:46:29 1 1
bbc
Stop watching the news footiefan.
Try rudetube instead
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16/02/2021 17:05:07 2 1
bbc
I’d rather be kept up to date about mutations.

Apparently you’d like to wake up one day and find out the current vaccine is useless.

Must be lovely to be that ignorant
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16/02/2021 17:49:50 0 1
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As a scientist, I can tell you that influenza shifts should strike fear into your heart. No rendering of vaccines into useless is OK.
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SAM
16/02/2021 17:50:16 1 1
bbc
I can't say I've noticed anyone hysterical about about this virus; but I have noticed that there are people all over the world who are STILL NOT taking it seriously, NOT heeding advice and NOT following it, and spreading it like wild fire. Only the other day there were big fines for big parties, even after all the urging to heed the advice. When will they ever learn!?
16/02/2021 18:16:36 0 1
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What is it you do want the news media to do?
16/02/2021 18:20:10 0 3
bbc
This is the problem with 24hour news. No perspective. Everything is a headline for a minute. BBC news should be trimmed down by 80%. Trivial news will end, Life will slow down ....and we all get bored and get withdrawal symptoms.
16/02/2021 20:39:30 1 1
bbc
A mutation that can outwit our immune system is not a good thing
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16/02/2021 15:16:12 153 42
bbc
Looking forward to all the 'media should stop doom mongering' from the HYS crowd, when they fail to actually read the article.
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16/02/2021 15:37:53 105 10
bbc
Reading the article - or any article- could interfere with our prejudices and preconvictions
205
16/02/2021 15:40:06 10 3
bbc
"How come we never hear about the positive side of nuclear war...?"
227
16/02/2021 15:43:06 3 9
bbc
Media needs to stop focusing on variants. Variants are not the problem. It's the handling of it by Boris and his team and cabinet that's the problem
461
16/02/2021 16:28:38 2 3
bbc
I don't get my news from HYS....I read it because....well. it's either that or picking my nose
16/02/2021 18:17:48 4 4
bbc
The cohort of anti-BBC commenters are already out in force.
It doesn't matter what's in any article, they'll always find a reason to attack the BBC.
16/02/2021 19:41:59 3 1
bbc
Headline and first sentence: we're all done for, panic.

Dig deeper: It's expected and absolutely fine

If the headline is panic inducing then they ARE doom mongering, and leaving the truth in the details so by the time it gets read, they have their readership wrapped up.
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16/02/2021 15:10:25 44 25
bbc
Like Brexiteers when explaining the apparent benefits of their idea?
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16/02/2021 15:16:18 39 17
bbc
No, they gave up trying to find any benefits of Brexit months ago.
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16/02/2021 15:35:22 6 5
bbc
It's just that they haven't admitted it yet, to themselves or to anyone else.
451
16/02/2021 16:26:39 5 7
bbc
Brexit gain... Vaccine roll out?
EU looking clueless over that.
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16/02/2021 15:12:56 6 10
bbc
Perhaps the nationalists who like to think the Oxford vaccine (developed by a multinational team in a half Swedish company, approved by the EU and manufactured in the EU) isn't the definitive world-beating cure.

It pays to be cautious in a global pandemic.
49
16/02/2021 15:16:19 3 5
bbc
Largely incorrect but you keep right on with you false confirmation bias.
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16/02/2021 15:58:17 1 2
bbc
Tell me which bit is untrue.

You see, you can't.
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16/02/2021 15:06:06 10 10
bbc
"There is currently no evidence that this set of mutations causes more severe illness or increased transmissibility"

This is what we said last time, and it turned out the last one did both <_<
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16/02/2021 15:17:05 1 1
bbc
More transmissable, true. Increase in severity of illness, not true.
BBC News, now trusted less than ITV, Channel4 and even Murdoch... Removed
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16/02/2021 15:17:12 3 1
bbc
And, of course, I should believe Mr Angel about this, should I?
Removed
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16/02/2021 15:12:56 6 10
bbc
Perhaps the nationalists who like to think the Oxford vaccine (developed by a multinational team in a half Swedish company, approved by the EU and manufactured in the EU) isn't the definitive world-beating cure.

It pays to be cautious in a global pandemic.
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16/02/2021 15:17:14 2 2
bbc
It pays to review the construction of your posts prior to posting a chunk of irrelevant Remain-centred bile.
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16/02/2021 15:10:42 53 17
bbc
Clever things, Viruses.

One of nature's tools that strive to restore a proper balance between the populations of species.
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16/02/2021 15:15:02 20 11
bbc
Yep, we have the Plague so all we need now is War and Famine for a Full House!...
806
16/02/2021 17:25:51 3 2
bbc
Famine may already on its way in parts of the world, if you look at corn prices. And historically war has often followed pandemics. Worrying times.
844
16/02/2021 17:33:33 5 4
bbc
The Covid plague us here to stay.
Brexit will provide the famine.
Not sure about the war but there are several candidates.
977
16/02/2021 18:07:37 4 2
bbc
Jacob Rees Mogg is the fourth horseman of the apocalypse. Or the spice girl that never was. Not sure.
16/02/2021 21:16:36 1 1
bbc
you forgot about pestilence
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16/02/2021 15:04:25 11 30
bbc
How many New Zealand variants have there been?

Massive policy failure.
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Watch out for the Glasgow variant. Additional symptoms are bleeding nose and watery eyes. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:18:07 1 2
bbc
I'm Glaswegian and please accept my apologies for offering light relief to a horrendous situation in advance.
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AKS
bbc
Close the borders. Stop foreign nationals and cut immigration. Too many people in this little island. Stop people coming in. I read somewhere that 3 million Chinese people are coming to the UK once Covid measures are eased. What was once a great country now a parasites playground. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:19:38 4 4
bbc
Racist thicko
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16/02/2021 15:19:53 3 3
bbc
You’d like that wouldn’t you.
Right wing quitter per chance?
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16/02/2021 15:20:41 4 1
bbc
When did your on forebears decide they were no longer foreign and not of immigrant stock?
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16/02/2021 15:25:23 1 1
bbc
Hi there Mr Fartage
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:15:02 11 4
bbc
No, it is news reporting.

If it made you scared, well that's an issue for you to resolve within yourself.
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16/02/2021 15:18:33 1 7
bbc
This isn’t news, this is fishing for a story when one is not yet there, or at least fully formed.
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:21:02 6 3
bbc
It is new information, aka news.

Cry harder.
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16/02/2021 15:18:40 12 10
bbc
All the more reason not to drive to Barnard Castle for an eye test.
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16/02/2021 15:19:53 12 7
bbc
For which Cummings never apologised.
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16/02/2021 15:18:53 6 14
bbc
It matters not. “irreversible” steps to release lockdown will commence on March 8th. Any such inconveniences such as pesky virus mutations will be swept aside. The narrative of a “world beating” vaccine campaign cannot be derailed by something as piffling as a Covid variant (i.e. the SA variant) against which current vaccines are about 20% effective!!
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16/02/2021 15:21:36 8 1
bbc
Wrong , false , please provide us all with the evidence that it is 20% effective? You must be one of these retired professors are you
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16/02/2021 15:26:19 0 1
bbc
Forget all these variants, there are more than we hear about, just as with flu. Once vaccinated we can have updated vaccines as and when, these mutations should not concern us.
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bbc
BBC are keen to give the virus geographical names, Kent, Brazil S, Africa etc except when its the Chinese parent version, when are they going to stop submitting to the CCP? Removed
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16/02/2021 15:20:04 2 6
bbc
Racist
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16/02/2021 15:27:44 0 2
bbc
Greg you are on the money! If China had devoted their resources to health rather than suppressing the UN Charter of Human Rights .... we’d not be in this nightmare. Now watch the CCP groupies give this tale thumbs down.
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PJB
16/02/2021 15:19:12 3 19
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Just read -"SAGE experts are said to want to retain the one-metre-plus rule for the foreseeable future to guard against spikes in coronavirus infections, particularly in winter. "

Enough is enough.
Vaccine programme galloping.
Infections plummeting.
R rate below 1.
NHS no longer "under pressure" and as Hancock indicates (right for once) needs reform.

No more moving the goalposts Johnson-OPEN UP.
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PJB
16/02/2021 15:24:20 0 4
bbc
Lockdown zealots on furlough downvoting again - back to work'
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16/02/2021 15:26:50 2 1
bbc
I would be happy with the 1 metre rule in perpetuity. Nice not having some jerk in my face or trying to shove past.
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16/02/2021 15:13:33 5 1
bbc
I wonder why they did not think of that? You know with your expertise you should be involved - you obviously know better than thousands of experts in the field.
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Rob
16/02/2021 15:19:17 0 1
bbc
Whole virion antibodies are produced against the spike, the shell and multiple structures of the virus. The old school of vaccines. Spike alone always the risk.
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16/02/2021 15:16:52 7 14
bbc
Virus mutates.

Next up on BBC news, humans breath air and bacteria multiply.
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16/02/2021 15:24:05 5 2
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But if they didn't report it some would accuse them of covering it up. Can't win.
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16/02/2021 15:10:53 6 18
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If there ever was a time to panic, this is it.
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Close the borders. Stop foreign nationals and cut immigration. Too many people in this little island. Stop people coming in. I read somewhere that 3 million Chinese people are coming to the UK once Covid measures are eased. What was once a great country now a parasites playground. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:19:38 4 4
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Racist thicko
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16/02/2021 15:21:23 2 3
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Ah, the cut and thrust of reasoned debate…
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16/02/2021 15:13:10 4 19
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Boris couldn't care
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Robertthebruce10
What an absolutely stupid comment.
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16/02/2021 15:18:40 12 10
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All the more reason not to drive to Barnard Castle for an eye test.
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16/02/2021 15:19:53 12 7
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For which Cummings never apologised.
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16/02/2021 15:36:05 4 4
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Yawn that's a year old - are you obsessed?
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16/02/2021 15:42:31 4 1
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Perhaps he should have just become an MP and got the train to Glasgow, then there would be no need.
Close the borders. Stop foreign nationals and cut immigration. Too many people in this little island. Stop people coming in. I read somewhere that 3 million Chinese people are coming to the UK once Covid measures are eased. What was once a great country now a parasites playground. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:19:53 3 3
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You’d like that wouldn’t you.
Right wing quitter per chance?
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16/02/2021 15:19:57 76 17
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1 variant out of tens of thousands now known. I'm not saying it might not be important, but there really is very little mileage in worrying the general public when the science teams behind the vaccines are well aware of these developments and know exactly how to modify those vaccines (similar to yearly flu variations) to stay relevant. Realistic worst case scenario? We all get a yearly Covid shot.
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16/02/2021 15:48:10 45 20
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There are 15 million people that have just been vaccinated and might need a booster already. Looking like a quarterly shot. Meanwhile, the next variant might have just mutated in someone that will make even the next set of vaccines ineffective.

what percentage of the population gets a yearly flu shot? Scaling to manage this is huge

We have to get circulating virus down to reduce mutations
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16/02/2021 17:06:10 2 6
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Im guessing you just read the headline and not the whole article?
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16/02/2021 17:55:00 4 5
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No, no, no, no, no!
Have you any idea the research and planning that goes into the choice of seasonal influenza vaccination? A virus we know well, a virus with predictable genetic shift based on drift that we track year on year? I’m guessing you have no idea.
This is a whole new playing field. The word ‘just’ does not apply.
16/02/2021 22:58:11 2 1
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4 variants now since September. How long before one emerges that's more deadly and resistant to known vaccines?
17/02/2021 06:12:14 0 1
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even if they work on a booster shot now for a variant, it'd be xmas by the time it's available, then you have to administer it, so it'd be six months after that by the time some groups have had it.
At which point many will have died, got seriously ill, especially if a variant comes along that we don't have a vaccine for OR is far more deadly, all of which is very possible
BBC are keen to give the virus geographical names, Kent, Brazil S, Africa etc except when its the Chinese parent version, when are they going to stop submitting to the CCP? Removed
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Racist
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Fact!
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16/02/2021 15:15:19 29 25
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We'd rather BBC supported the vaccine roll out.
BBC, please show some hopeful stories, how medics have visited vulnerable and vaccinated them. How the 70+ population are attending GPs for vaccines etc.
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16/02/2021 15:20:06 19 12
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Ostriches leap to mind…
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16/02/2021 15:20:23 51 26
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Just get used to it. Covid is with us for years! Hit it now with the vaccine and also rules to stop the spread, but we must open up the economy and give some freedom back to the people (except those that break the rules who should be made 'criminals' not just fined, so ruin their lives as they don't care about others. It must be like the flu jab, a booster every year.
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16/02/2021 15:29:34 43 27
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Couldn't agree more. Also anyone who does anything unhealthy (drinking alcohol, smoking, not exercising 5 times a week, eating unhealthy food, not meditating, not eating their 5 a day, spouting bile filled nonsense on HYS, getting their blood pressure up unnecessarily) therefore putting unnecessary strain on the NHS, should also be locked up for being so selfish.
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16/02/2021 17:18:52 2 3
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What does 'open up the economy' mean? I see it banded about a lot, but noone seems to know. And whats the use of a healthy economy if it doesnt serve the people?
16/02/2021 18:09:52 0 1
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Charged with intent to do bodily harm
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16/02/2021 15:12:56 6 10
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Perhaps the nationalists who like to think the Oxford vaccine (developed by a multinational team in a half Swedish company, approved by the EU and manufactured in the EU) isn't the definitive world-beating cure.

It pays to be cautious in a global pandemic.
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16/02/2021 15:20:24 2 2
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It's unfortunate (intentional?) that you failed to mention that we approved it before the EU did - which is one of the reasons their vaccination roll-out is a very long way behind ours.
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16/02/2021 15:59:26 1 1
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It was approved to EU standards.

Pty the EU Medicines Agency left the UK for the Netherlands. It cost 900 British jobs.
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16/02/2021 15:20:30 10 14
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Dear BBC. Please stop this scaremongering. New variants occur with all virus' and flu's. All the BBC seem to care about is criticising everything and instigating doom and gloom.
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Grow up
Close the borders. Stop foreign nationals and cut immigration. Too many people in this little island. Stop people coming in. I read somewhere that 3 million Chinese people are coming to the UK once Covid measures are eased. What was once a great country now a parasites playground. Removed
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16/02/2021 15:20:41 4 1
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When did your on forebears decide they were no longer foreign and not of immigrant stock?
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Rob
16/02/2021 15:10:11 0 12
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Why scientist are not making whole virion inactivated vaccine which is much more mutation resistant . Now the scientists are making a new vaccine for the variants and what's the guarantee that the spike of the virus stay straight next winter or virus shed the whole spike this summer and look like a foot ball next winter ??
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16/02/2021 15:21:01 0 1
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Utter drivel.
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16/02/2021 15:18:33 1 7
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This isn’t news, this is fishing for a story when one is not yet there, or at least fully formed.
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Bob
16/02/2021 15:21:02 6 3
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It is new information, aka news.

Cry harder.
16/02/2021 18:45:17 0 1
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I’m quite happy, cheers!
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16/02/2021 15:18:22 4 14
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The BBC, along with every other media outlet on the planet, reports another mutation of the virus.

Result: ThE BbC iS sCaReMoNgErInG AgAiN. ThE BcC iS bEiNg nEgAtIvE AgAiN.

That's the problem with right-wingers, they're so caught up in paranoia and seeing things that aren't there, they lose all rational judgement.
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16/02/2021 15:10:07 7 7
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Ah the first one in my list to blame the government... here we go...
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16/02/2021 15:18:52 2 4
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Imagine that! Blame the government for its policy failures.
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16/02/2021 15:19:38 4 4
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Racist thicko
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16/02/2021 15:21:23 2 3
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Ah, the cut and thrust of reasoned debate…
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16/02/2021 15:29:22 1 1
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The thing is you can't reason with ignorami... as master of the universe you should know these simple facts. Another simple fact: we are a nation of immigrants, and have been for centuries.
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16/02/2021 15:21:27 3 4
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Stop flights from instantly to bham now
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16/02/2021 15:24:15 0 1
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Why???? Just because 4 idiots didn't declare where they came from?
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In English please.
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Where is instantly ?
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16/02/2021 15:18:53 6 14
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It matters not. “irreversible” steps to release lockdown will commence on March 8th. Any such inconveniences such as pesky virus mutations will be swept aside. The narrative of a “world beating” vaccine campaign cannot be derailed by something as piffling as a Covid variant (i.e. the SA variant) against which current vaccines are about 20% effective!!
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16/02/2021 15:21:36 8 1
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Wrong , false , please provide us all with the evidence that it is 20% effective? You must be one of these retired professors are you
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16/02/2021 15:21:47 5 7
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If we are going to have new items on every mutation there will be no room for anything else. The media should wind back its sensationalist coverage.
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16/02/2021 15:23:31 1 1
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There are *not* new items every time there is a mutation.
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16/02/2021 15:15:47 365 71
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I appreciate it is global news but wish the media would think about the hysteria they're creating. I'm no scientist but the Coronavirus will mutate, just as flu does. It will not be a one time vaccine and we will need boosters yearly to cater new variants. If a variant renders vaccines completely useless, then OK but if it stops hospitalisation and death, the risk is at an acceptable level.
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16/02/2021 15:22:17 156 294
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It's not hysteria, it's news!
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16/02/2021 15:32:41 17 12
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I agree but I try to see this from the perspective of many people in this country who are suffering from mental health issues, particularly anxiety. The way some news outlets sensationalise and use word like may, could, possibly is not reporting fact but conjecture.
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16/02/2021 15:51:56 8 7
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its causing hysteria !!! amongst the vunerable
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16/02/2021 16:10:01 6 6
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No it not. The media has raised this to ridiculous levels that are completely disproportionate to the threat. Why are so many people hiding under the bed?
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16/02/2021 16:14:10 2 3
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Its not news it is something that happens every day. Should we report news that a person gets up and has bacon instead of cereal for breakfast today?
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16/02/2021 16:16:49 2 7
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It's no longer news, it's predictable tosh from the BBC
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16/02/2021 16:20:32 0 1
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"headline - mankind takes over planet"
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16/02/2021 16:24:49 1 2
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So you think the religious inclinations of the pope, the aquatic activities of ducks and the toilet habits of bears also constitute news?
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16/02/2021 16:48:02 1 1
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The way the news is reported is important for the way it is perceived.
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16/02/2021 18:11:31 0 3
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Hysteria usually comes as a result of the news.
16/02/2021 19:10:19 0 1
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Hahahhahahaa this attitude is why this country is completely up the swanny
16/02/2021 20:35:57 0 1
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No it's not it's NEWSTERIA! Unheard of until Covid hit, now every second story is "newsteria". More mongering of the scares = better compliance.
16/02/2021 20:45:06 1 1
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a virus mutating is NOT news, viruses mutate. Now if the virus grew legs and started knocking on peoples doors..THAT's news
16/02/2021 21:01:44 0 1
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It's scare-mongering worthy of the Sunday Rags or Morning Star
16/02/2021 22:03:05 0 1
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What department of the BBC do you work at? Seriously
17/02/2021 00:24:16 0 1
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Maybe they should publish good news in equal proportions then
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17/02/2021 09:10:14 0 0
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Kent ??
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16/02/2021 15:22:18 7 8
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Sorry if this isn't politically correct, but the source of the problem needs to be investigated. WHO have taken over a year to get into China, doesn't THAT say something? China the cause, China need sorting.
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16/02/2021 15:04:25 11 30
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How many New Zealand variants have there been?

Massive policy failure.
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16/02/2021 15:22:31 4 1
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A country half the size of London's population that hasnt started vaccines yet and will likely have to to stay in lockdown well into 2021?
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16/02/2021 15:11:10 5 3
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Today's Interesting Fact : Prior to the pandemic, there were roughly same number of passenger journeys made each day on the Underground as there are people living in New Zealand.
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16/02/2021 15:20:02 1 3
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Vietnam then.
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16/02/2021 15:17:12 3 1
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And, of course, I should believe Mr Angel about this, should I?
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16/02/2021 15:22:46 4 5
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We're about to lose control of the pandemic.

If we ever *had* control, that is...
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16/02/2021 15:22:55 12 3
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New variant send a reporter right into the middle of the area, so we can see what the street , shops or park look like. Madness stay in your studio and stop travelling
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16/02/2021 16:51:15 3 1
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Yep, like when there's a blizzard, and the news reports that people shouldn't travel unless absolutely necessary.

Then they cut to their reporter, stood outside in a blizzard ...
16/02/2021 18:36:34 0 1
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How many TV and Radio reporters have breached restrictions to report on people breaking the rules? Standing outside Downing Street / Parliament because no-one knows what it looks like! ALL of us need to STOP travelling unnecessarily, even the media. Than again, they would put their £200 fines on expenses!!
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16/02/2021 15:23:03 2 5
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No point getting worried, the virus is continually mutating.
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16/02/2021 15:23:12 1 3
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New variants are usually more virulent but usually less dangerous.
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16/02/2021 15:33:30 0 1
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Er, I'm not sure that is true at all. Perhaps you'd provide evidence to support your position please?
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16/02/2021 15:23:19 9 11
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Also in Scottish news today, schools will be reopening from next Monday.

I swear the worlds gone mad and people are putting money and the economy before the long term health of its people. Given how much this virus has already mutated we have zero idea where it will have mutated to by the summer but lets rush everything back eh, you know, coz money is important.
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16/02/2021 15:30:53 6 2
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When the country is bust, tens of millions are unemployed and we can't pay benefits or find the NHS then what? Get real. We must get the economy working again.
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16/02/2021 15:31:15 0 2
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The revolting leader of Jockistan has milked this pandemic dry in her quest for independence, by gazumping Boris decisions every opportunity she gets,
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16/02/2021 15:33:56 1 2
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Stay in then for the rest of your life and let everyone else get on with theirs , what about all the people losing their jobs and homes does that not matter? Never mind the mental health issues
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16/02/2021 15:37:14 1 2
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No, its not about money. It is about our wider health, well being and having a life that is worth living. Respiratory illness is not the only form of suffering that exists. Lockdowns bring loneliness, unemployment, fear, despair, conflict and poverty. As they persist they threaten to destroy more than just our social freedoms but our culture, society and way of life.
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16/02/2021 15:23:21 7 9
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Let's let the virologists study all the variants, our concentration should be getting back to normality ASAP. There is nothing we can do about them so why get stressed. We really need to get out and about more!
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I do think that mutations are being made more of a concern than needed, given it’s normal for a virus to mutate and we’ve been told the vaccines can be adjusted and re-issued if needed.

Either way, this isn’t going away and as long as we take the sting out of the virus with vaccines and drug treatments, there shouldn’t be a big concern long-term.
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16/02/2021 15:23:25 327 165
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The problem is the lead time to having these new vaccines available and administered. We've been going full pelt in a world leading Herculean effort and have only just managed to give a quarter of the population one jab.

All this because we are not being decisive in closing borders and not learning lessons by lifting lockdown too early. I am sick of lurching from one lockdown to another.
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16/02/2021 15:30:01 52 4
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Variant vaccines can be created faster than the first one, though there still will be some delay for testing etc. The only way we get ahead though is if we can reduce the amount of virus in the community circulation. The more virus in circulation, the greater the chance of mutations that make vaccines ineffective, the more vaccines that are needed
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16/02/2021 15:40:17 15 10
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Spot on Maccy - I'll just add that whilst poorer nations are struggling to get hold of the vaccine's, (Even at cost, it's more expensive than their healthcare systems can afford) then we continue with the risk of lurching from one lockdown to another.
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16/02/2021 15:53:14 21 19
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"All this because we are not being decisive in closing borders .."

You are aware of the new rules..?
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16/02/2021 16:41:05 3 2
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What's the nexus between closed vs open borders and another UK variant?
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16/02/2021 17:07:09 6 13
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World leading. Haha. What is wrong with you. The only thing the UK is world beating at currently is death.
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16/02/2021 17:13:38 5 1
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Lead time for an mRNA vaccine is theoretically a few weeks. This won't be a problem long term. You update the process with the new spike protein sequence and the machine churns out the mRNA. It's basically digital medicine.
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16/02/2021 17:17:46 9 3
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Closing borders doesnt make much difference when 2 of the new variants appear to have mutated in the UK.
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16/02/2021 17:55:41 6 3
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I'm sick of Lockdowns all together
16/02/2021 18:52:02 1 2
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No it's because people don't stick to the rules.
16/02/2021 19:22:09 1 1
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Just heard that in the South-West we now have one third of the population over 16 vaccinated. As more people get some level of protection, the rate at which mutations can happen will decrease as less virus will be active. But I do agree that apart from the vaccination programme, not much has gone well here or in many other countries struggling with this appalling disease.
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16/02/2021 15:21:47 5 7
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If we are going to have new items on every mutation there will be no room for anything else. The media should wind back its sensationalist coverage.
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16/02/2021 15:23:31 1 1
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There are *not* new items every time there is a mutation.
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16/02/2021 15:23:49 5 9
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Another day, another variant, another headline whipping up a frenzy. Get a grip, folks - a virus mutates to increase it's chance of hosts. Doesn't mean it's more deadly.
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16/02/2021 15:31:19 3 1
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That's a relief because it's incredibly deadly already.

Oh, but you don't know whether it's more deadly or not: you are just speculating and seemingly trying to play down any potential impact.

The problem with mutations is that they might be able to evade the vaccines and thus the impact would be incredibly deadly once again until and IF we can develop new vaccines to combat the mutations.
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16/02/2021 15:16:52 7 14
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Virus mutates.

Next up on BBC news, humans breath air and bacteria multiply.
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16/02/2021 15:24:05 5 2
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But if they didn't report it some would accuse them of covering it up. Can't win.
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16/02/2021 15:21:27 3 4
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Stop flights from instantly to bham now
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16/02/2021 15:24:15 0 1
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Why???? Just because 4 idiots didn't declare where they came from?
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16/02/2021 15:21:27 3 4
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Stop flights from instantly to bham now
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16/02/2021 15:24:16 0 1
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In English please.