India thrash England to level series
16/02/2021 | sport | cricket | 1,992
England succumb to an inevitable 317-run defeat by India on the fourth day of the second Test in Chennai.
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16/02/2021 07:18:20 5 18
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We should be playing 4 day tests against England , Afganistan and Ireland
Take your racist vitriol away from here please Removed
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16/02/2021 07:27:08 8 1
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Why because you wouldn’t have been thrashed in the first one?! ??????
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16/02/2021 07:33:39 4 1
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Why? because you wouldn’t have been thrashed in the first test? ??????
16/02/2021 16:12:04 1 0
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16/02/2021 17:59:28 3 0
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Continue to prepare these types of wickets and you may be denied future home series altogether and you can play on your own for 4 days
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16/02/2021 07:18:46 37 3
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The better team won just as the better team won the first test. Its a 4 match series so game on. Time to forget all the extras about the pitch, third umpires (shocking), Kohli antics (whatever). Game on.
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16/02/2021 07:18:48 5 5
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Can't say I wasn't right? Our spinners are crap getting tonked about like that on a dust bowl.
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16/02/2021 07:57:15 3 1
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I don’t think the issue is with our spinners -they bowled well -too many bad balls, but they bowled India out twice. The issue is with our batsmen -too many are playing the spinning ball on the back foot. They need to use their feet more but they’re getting little practice in county cricket
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16/02/2021 07:18:57 3 2
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Well, that's set up nicely for a day-night test!

No excuses, move on and go hard next week.
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16/02/2021 07:19:44 9 14
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No-one will disagree that India were the better side, the point that will be made is that only India could have played on this surface, and whatever the game was that was being played over the last 3 and a half days, it certainly wasn't cricket.
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16/02/2021 07:21:59 0 7
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Whatever
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16/02/2021 07:23:52 0 4
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Insightful observation there
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16/02/2021 07:43:43 2 1
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Did England win the first test in similar fashion
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16/02/2021 08:53:36 2 3
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Really? Oh yes, forgot that only batsmen who can play in seaming conditions are skillful. And anyone can take wickets on a 'poor sub standard not fit for cricket pitch', can't they. The only proper cricket is played in Lords, Manchester or Leeds in June. How dare others look to disadvantage our boys in their conditions, it's just not cricket.
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16/02/2021 17:41:28 0 0
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Strange game of Rugby then!
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16/02/2021 07:19:54 13 6
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Moeen securing an IPL by top scoring for us in this match after just 17 balls. Surely that's some sort of record?
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16/02/2021 09:48:22 2 1
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He usually has a fixed contract for IPL
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16/02/2021 07:19:56 7 6
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England made to look like goats. No capitals. Just goats.
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16/02/2021 07:49:34 1 2
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More like kids!
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16/02/2021 07:20:04 130 4
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Whatever is being said about the pitch, toss or umpiring, both matches have been won by the car better team and England would definitely have taken being 1-1 going into the day night game.
But for heaven's sake let Anderson play the last two ??
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16/02/2021 08:46:50 29 3
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Totally agree with this.
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16/02/2021 10:20:32 4 2
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I think England had a plan in that they wanted Anderson and Archer fit for the first and third test. Clearly the day nighter has been targeted by England as an opportunity.

I don't think playing Anderson & Archer for all 4 test was an option, so they've almost sacrificed this second test.
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16/02/2021 07:20:40 1 5
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Micky Mouse strip but you have to adapt to it! 1 - 1 i wouldn't of predicted that. I'm expecting a similar moon type surface for the next test.
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16/02/2021 07:21:38 2 1
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The next one's the pink ball day nighter right? England's only chance.
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16/02/2021 09:55:20 1 2
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It's have. So bored with the dull comments I've picked on bad english.
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16/02/2021 07:21:00 93 6
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at least moeen ali put a smile back on my face!
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16/02/2021 07:25:45 43 2
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He had a shot at fastest 50!
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16/02/2021 08:14:43 1 3
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Moeen going back to England now so ...
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16/02/2021 09:39:27 3 9
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and has decided he wants to come home now. So why did we select him for this game if he changed his mind in the last few days. If the England think tank knew about this then shame on them for picking him, if not then Ali is to blame, but wish him and his family well.
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16/02/2021 10:51:32 5 1
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Absolute boss haha! Put a smile on my face all 4 days.

Regarding the somewhat crazy rotation policy; it’s to look after the players’ mental health. Don’t want the squad going down with lockdown fever trapped in an Indian hotel.
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16/02/2021 10:52:39 3 5
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.....and now he's going home!!!! What was the point of him being there? Bess could have gained more rythym and more experience....
16/02/2021 15:38:42 1 0
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Exactly!
17/02/2021 02:29:28 0 1
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Moeen & Rashid are 2nd rate
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16/02/2021 07:21:30 70 3
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Well played India.

Spin and scoreboard pressure familiar issues for England.

Both tests have been a little one sided so far. Hopefully we‘ll get one where we go late into day 4 with all results possible.

Game on.
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16/02/2021 07:24:08 148 62
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The England Team visited an Orphanage in Chennai yesterday..
"It's heart breaking to see their little faces with no hope" said Rajesh, aged 6.
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16/02/2021 07:20:40 1 5
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Micky Mouse strip but you have to adapt to it! 1 - 1 i wouldn't of predicted that. I'm expecting a similar moon type surface for the next test.
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16/02/2021 07:21:38 2 1
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The next one's the pink ball day nighter right? England's only chance.
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16/02/2021 07:19:44 9 14
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No-one will disagree that India were the better side, the point that will be made is that only India could have played on this surface, and whatever the game was that was being played over the last 3 and a half days, it certainly wasn't cricket.
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16/02/2021 07:21:59 0 7
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Whatever
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16/02/2021 07:22:04 10 14
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What is the point of a serious professional game where the pitch is so poor that the outcome is decided on the coin toss before a ball is bowled? India are better than England at playing on a sandpit. Nonsense.
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16/02/2021 07:25:30 8 7
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You're talking about the first Test, right? I agree!
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16/02/2021 07:26:49 1 1
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I look forward to seeing England preparing a series of turning tracks this summer. Nah, it's not happening is it?
16/02/2021 15:56:00 1 0
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Doesn't really matter what the wicket is like, just look in the scorebook!
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16/02/2021 07:22:30 133 25
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Regardless of what Agnew may think a pitch on which Two fantastic 100s scored can’t be that bad.

Truth is England were outbatted and out spun here

Did we read the pitch wrong? With so few overs bowled by seamers maybe a third (wrist) spinner may have helped question though just how fit Stokes is to bowl.

Entertaining knock by Ali at the finish and bowled well too.

On to the next game
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16/02/2021 07:30:52 136 43
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You are drawing the wrong conclusions. Truth is our spinners are crap. They shouldn't be getting tonked by a number 8 on a pitch tailored for spin.
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16/02/2021 07:36:29 4 3
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We haven’t picked a wrist Spinner for this tour -which England might regret -but to be fair India hardly used theirs
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16/02/2021 08:03:16 11 2
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Exactly. All pitches are different and we should know what to expect in India after coming here for a few years now! It is what makes it a test! The name says it all. Why can't people understand that.
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16/02/2021 08:16:09 4 1
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A very fair assessment Locker. Joe Root also commented that England were outplayed in all 3 disciplines. It will be interested who ends up in the England eleven for the next game.

Rest of the series looks like being very exciting; can't wait!
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16/02/2021 08:53:02 1 1
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It isn't only Agnew. It is Andrew Strauss, David Lloyd, Mark Waugh and a whole host of other ex-professional cricketers. We lost the toss. Sharma got in while the pitch was at its best and India gained the upper hand allowing their batsmen to play with more freedom in the second innings. Of the top flight batsmen only Kohli made runs in the second innings.
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16/02/2021 09:00:40 1 3
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Time was when English cricket produced world class batsmen, wicketkeepers, spinners, seamers and fielders (Randall, Lamb, Gower, etc). What has happened needs deep introspection. Anderson and Broad seem to be the last of the great English seamers as were Swan and Panesar as spinners. Archer is quick but not in the same class.
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16/02/2021 09:23:38 1 4
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England spinners were poor in both games. Too many full tosses and half trackers forced the captain to take out close in fielders and took the pressure off the batsmen. You cannot bowl like that at this level and against this batting lineup.

Ashwin and co. were relentlessly accurate and got their rewards.
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16/02/2021 09:38:55 1 7
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Ali bowled well? He accounted for over a third of the total runs India scored and went at an appalling rate. His 8 wickets is a mirage - he's been a county no.3 bat that twiddled it a bit & given more opportunities than he's deserved.

Self-imposed exile from the International game AFTER he was dropped, no 1st class cricket since Sept 2019 - the bloke's a joke.
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16/02/2021 10:56:51 0 2
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Agreed - England didn't play their best team because of this strange policy of rotation. First 3 batters in England line up are not technically good enough to deal with the conditions and England would have been to go with experience of Bairstow, etc. Bairstow, Crawley, Anderson, Archer (if fit) and Bess should be in the next test. Broad, Burns, Lawrence, Ali out.
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16/02/2021 11:10:37 0 1
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I'm sorry but the pitch was a day 5 pitch on day 1. I probably think Aggers has seen a few more test pitches than you have?
16/02/2021 13:38:47 1 2
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Agnew is a Whinger , 750 runs scored on pitch before England collapse .
16/02/2021 15:07:35 1 0
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Mo is a good cricketer who lacks the confidence and temperament to succeed in test cricket long term. He bowled and batted well in his early tests but has also flopped at many key times, especially in Australia. He has been messed around by the selectors and blamed many times. Bess is going to be a long term player who will learn. He is motivated, listens and fields and bats well.
16/02/2021 16:08:32 1 1
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Moeen was moving his feet extremely well and making a proper connection with the ball. His so called team mates should study a video of his innings as they have clearly lost the will to bat.
Having said that, the England second innings was an improvement on the first despite a deteriorating wicket?(chuckle).
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16/02/2021 07:18:20 5 18
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We should be playing 4 day tests against England , Afganistan and Ireland
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Take your racist vitriol away from here please Removed
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16/02/2021 07:45:53 4 1
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Silly comment by Vikram which I’m sure is just banter but how is that racist?? Sort yourself out
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16/02/2021 07:22:46 45 2
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Very disappointing that we didn’t manage a partnership of more than 38 in the match
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16/02/2021 07:28:20 21 20
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That too when Moeen was auctioning for IPL by trying to hit every ball.
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16/02/2021 07:23:00 0 2
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That's two smashing now for the tie.
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16/02/2021 07:23:38 6 10
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#You're not singing anymore# ????????????????
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16/02/2021 07:40:14 5 2
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You been drinking ?? ?? ?
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16/02/2021 07:19:44 9 14
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No-one will disagree that India were the better side, the point that will be made is that only India could have played on this surface, and whatever the game was that was being played over the last 3 and a half days, it certainly wasn't cricket.
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16/02/2021 07:23:52 0 4
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Insightful observation there
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16/02/2021 07:26:27 0 2
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Totally agree Vikram, although less insightful and more stating the obvious maybe?
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16/02/2021 07:21:30 70 3
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Well played India.

Spin and scoreboard pressure familiar issues for England.

Both tests have been a little one sided so far. Hopefully we‘ll get one where we go late into day 4 with all results possible.

Game on.
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16/02/2021 07:24:08 148 62
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The England Team visited an Orphanage in Chennai yesterday..
"It's heart breaking to see their little faces with no hope" said Rajesh, aged 6.
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16/02/2021 08:38:45 5 2
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1-1
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16/02/2021 09:11:06 15 7
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Not even original. Stick to the day job.
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16/02/2021 09:23:57 2 2
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Oh, l say...
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16/02/2021 09:46:15 7 4
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You are stupid.
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16/02/2021 11:05:43 11 6
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Well I thought it was funny, not much appetite for humour this morning it seems.
16/02/2021 12:06:32 0 3
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haha - well done cynic - I'll give you the thunbs up to get over the ton - on to the next. Keep being glass half empty
16/02/2021 12:15:41 4 3
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My kind of humour. Very funny!
16/02/2021 16:27:07 1 0
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Whats the weather like in Dubbo?
16/02/2021 16:34:57 1 1
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Lol
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16/02/2021 18:07:04 1 0
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Did they have a picture of Kohli on the wall just after he’d been bowled?
Caption: Now children, you’re old enough not to do this.
Probably not a great joke

There are at least 2 million children on the streets of India with no proof of who they are

They don't exists technically and and are trafficked, murdered and even farmed for body parts

Should everyone boycott playing India until their government takes the lives of it's citizens seriously?
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16/02/2021 07:24:15 15 1
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Hoping the next test, day nighter, with England's greater experience with the pink ball will be closer. Added bonus , don't have to get up at 4 AM to watch it ??
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16/02/2021 07:24:20 216 30
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England lost this game by making the cardinal sin of changing a winning side and not playing their best 11. You can debate the pitch, but India scored over 600 runs on it, us less than half of that. And unfortunately our spinners are just not good enough to fully exploit the conditions.
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16/02/2021 07:34:05 124 3
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It’s a shame that the rotation was prearranged and not tactical -but I think it puts into context what a great win that was in the first test. We have an inexperienced batting line up -but I think they’ll come good.

I think Leach and Moeen did manage to exploit the conditions -but they both bowled too many bad balls
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16/02/2021 07:39:33 2 1
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ditto, who changes side
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16/02/2021 07:47:16 6 5
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India made the same mistake in the previous test of not playing their best 11.
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Viv
16/02/2021 07:49:53 9 1
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Also make up of bowling attack was flawed - 3 seamers and two spinners on a spinning track. Needed at least one more spinner possibly in place of Broad. May have provided a bit more variety in attack.
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16/02/2021 08:22:42 9 7
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Buttler went home for a pre-arranged break and Archer was injured. They had to change the side! England made the cardinal sin of not winning the toss on a poor Test pitch!
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16/02/2021 08:24:01 7 3
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But the only batting change was Foakes for Buttler and I’m not sure that would have made a difference of 300 runs. I can’t see Bess and Anderson doing any better than Moeen/Broad/Stone on that pitch.
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16/02/2021 09:10:20 1 3
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Why was the best spinner in the 1st test dropped. Selectors to resign.
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16/02/2021 09:38:53 8 1
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So, Moeen gets 40% of the wickets and top score and you think he was the wrong choice?
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16/02/2021 10:30:08 3 2
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I usually am in agreement about changing winning sides but I think in the current climate it’s a necessity. I go stir crazy locked down at home with the mrs and kids 24/7, I can imagine being locked down in a hotel room on the other side of the world isn’t the most pleasant experience, especially after a hammering and your mates are miserable.
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16/02/2021 10:38:15 2 1
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I wish that was true but I don't think it mattered who we picked.
India are better in these vonditions
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16/02/2021 11:21:32 1 1
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You do you know that India also made changes to their team
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16/02/2021 11:35:40 0 2
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Or perhaps by losing the toss?
16/02/2021 12:19:27 1 2
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The cardinal sin they made was to lose the toss.....
16/02/2021 12:30:45 1 3
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England lost this test because they lost the all important toss of the coin.
16/02/2021 13:58:10 0 0
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Please explain how keeping the same side would have changed this?
16/02/2021 18:34:42 0 0
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Couldn't be more wrong

You try playing 4 tests back to back in Indian conditions in your mid to late 30's as a seamer

Foakes is better than Buttler in these conditions

Eng just didn't turn up - or perhaps India did
Sam
16/02/2021 19:42:37 0 0
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They played what they considered the best 11 available.
16/02/2021 23:39:36 0 0
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Rubbish, Bess would have done no better.
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16/02/2021 07:24:56 5 3
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An emphatic victory!
Well done India.
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16/02/2021 07:25:16 263 16
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Hats of to India, no use blaming this and that, we were truly beat, this is cricket and its about accepting loss with grace

Now its time to prepare and be ready for the next one, its 1-1 and everything is set up nicely.

Game on
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16/02/2021 07:36:18 194 62
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Saying the pitch is not fit for a test is not been a bad loser.
It’s just a statement of fact.

Best team won.
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16/02/2021 08:08:10 3 5
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Well said SW! No DRS req :))
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16/02/2021 10:53:51 2 1
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India were much improved from the opening Test , no doubt, but I wonder what happened to that well-worn aphorism "Never change a winning team". Our media are only too keen to take our cricket team to task on just about anything, yet there seemed to be no astonishment and dismay that arguably the hero of that first Test, Anderson, was dropped. Play with fire and expect to get burnt.
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16/02/2021 11:12:07 1 1
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England batted in the second innings with the pressure off as they knew they were never going to win the match. But no player could score big. Was it poor batting by us. Or great bowling by India
16/02/2021 14:54:47 1 1
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It's not about bad grace. It is about the process. Match referee flags the pitch is substandard. The ICC investigates with evidence from the match referee, both teams, the home board and the groundsman to understand why the pitch was so poor. There is then a judgement and sanctions that may be a warning or disqualification from hosting for a year. India must be subject to the same as all boards.
16/02/2021 16:00:09 1 1
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Yes, this picth here is no worse than any test match that completes in 3.5 or 4 days in Eng or Aus.
16/02/2021 17:11:16 0 0
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No thanks
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16/02/2021 07:25:30 2 4
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I wonder why its the England batsmen who seem to get out to unplayable deliveries. Or simply they overhyped and their dismissals are justified by claiming no one could have played those deliveries.
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16/02/2021 07:36:25 5 1
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I think it’s that the opposition spinners bowl more threatening balls consistently
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16/02/2021 07:45:39 0 1
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The same could be said of opposition batsmen suffering from world class swing bowling from Anderson et al in English conditions.
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16/02/2021 07:22:04 10 14
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What is the point of a serious professional game where the pitch is so poor that the outcome is decided on the coin toss before a ball is bowled? India are better than England at playing on a sandpit. Nonsense.
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16/02/2021 07:25:30 8 7
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You're talking about the first Test, right? I agree!
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16/02/2021 08:58:30 2 1
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Both tests so far. Different at a different ground? We’ll see. India are better in these conditions but won’t win batting second on a pitch this poor. But in the long run it is TERRIBLE for Test cricket if the outcome is not in serious doubt before the first over in a game between two of the top professional 11s in the world. Long form cricket cannot afford or survive pitches like this.
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16/02/2021 07:21:00 93 6
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at least moeen ali put a smile back on my face!
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16/02/2021 07:25:45 43 2
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He had a shot at fastest 50!
16/02/2021 11:59:36 13 2
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I really hope it's not the end of his Test career. The guy has been selfless for England and treated very poorly. 190 Test wickets, 5 Test centuries......and so much talent.
16/02/2021 12:52:58 2 8
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And failed!
16/02/2021 15:54:08 1 0
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Good to see an England batter attack the ball!
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16/02/2021 07:23:52 0 4
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Insightful observation there
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16/02/2021 07:26:27 0 2
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Totally agree Vikram, although less insightful and more stating the obvious maybe?
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16/02/2021 07:22:04 10 14
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What is the point of a serious professional game where the pitch is so poor that the outcome is decided on the coin toss before a ball is bowled? India are better than England at playing on a sandpit. Nonsense.
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16/02/2021 07:26:49 1 1
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I look forward to seeing England preparing a series of turning tracks this summer. Nah, it's not happening is it?
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16/02/2021 07:41:16 0 1
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They do it all the time as one would expect being the home side
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GGS
16/02/2021 07:26:57 2 2
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India got a bit of a leeway last test when pitch was a road for first 2 days but no excuses here for England when there was assistance from ball 1. Maybe better the next match.
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16/02/2021 07:18:20 5 18
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We should be playing 4 day tests against England , Afganistan and Ireland
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16/02/2021 07:27:08 8 1
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Why because you wouldn’t have been thrashed in the first one?! ??????
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16/02/2021 07:27:38 2 6
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The fact that the highest partnership of the innings was the last wicket says a lot about the lack of intent from England's batsmen.

England never tried to resettle the Indian spinners this match. If only someone could have played like Moeen at the top , we would have had a decent viewing today. Losing is fine but not fighting for it is not!!
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16/02/2021 07:48:30 1 1
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I’m not sure that Burns and Sibley smashing 6s would’ve been the best approach -but it’s frustrating we couldn’t form a decent partnership -enough of our batsmen had decent starts in the match
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16/02/2021 07:22:46 45 2
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Very disappointing that we didn’t manage a partnership of more than 38 in the match
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16/02/2021 07:28:20 21 20
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That too when Moeen was auctioning for IPL by trying to hit every ball.
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16/02/2021 07:43:13 8 3
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Yep the auctions in two days time. He might have just secured himself a good contract!
16/02/2021 11:47:46 3 2
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Very good thinking. Those 43 runs could be worth at least £2000 each
16/02/2021 13:25:49 2 1
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Secured some interest with that knock lol. England’s best batsman by far in this match.
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16/02/2021 07:28:26 8 8
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Outclassed, well done India. I'm still not convinced on Root as a captain. He lets the batsmen get too comfortable. Remember Holder's 200, comfortable. Ashwin, comfortable. His wins are down to either an individual batting or bowling display. Not captaincy. He's a world class batsman but a village green captain I'm afraid. But realistically India are better overall team
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16/02/2021 07:29:23 4 4
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I must admit I complained about us in India not preparing a good pitch. I have to eat my words as such a pitch was only to be expected: To test the mettle of visitors in the best format of cricket. Isn’t this what test cricket is all about? To fight in any conditions and come out on top! Great for the game. I look forward to a pumped-up English team in another absorbing match at Ahmedabad.
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16/02/2021 07:29:58 39 21
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Test matches should not be decided by the toss.

2 games completely decided before a ball was bowled.
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16/02/2021 07:36:03 5 8
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if India has this strategy then it's very generous for the opposition. Right?
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16/02/2021 07:46:09 5 5
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EXACTLY what I've been saying for ages but usual suspects disagree. The toss has way too much influence on certain pitches.
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16/02/2021 08:42:48 4 2
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Do you really think England would have won if we batted first?

This pitch was turning on day 1 (e.g. Kohli's wicket), we would still have been bowled out for 150 and India would have got 300. The only difference is that the game would have been over in 3 days not 4 and we'd have lost by an innings.
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16/02/2021 09:08:10 6 2
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We would have lost this regardless of batting first or not we were outplayed with bat and ball
16/02/2021 12:44:42 0 1
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So by your logic if England lose the toss in the next two tests then we lose the series. But if we win the toss in the next two tests then we win the series
16/02/2021 13:43:46 1 1
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Face the facts. England were terrible and India thoroughly outplayed them. Even if England batted first, the way their batsmen succumbed to the Indian spinners they still would have lost. Stop making excuses and wake up to reality - too many England players just aren't good enough.
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16/02/2021 07:29:58 37 3
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Its a bit disappointing after such a great win in the first test match, i was hoping it would be closer and we would build up momentum

But it is what it is, and we have to say India was superb, i think that now they will have momentum and belief and it will take something special to beat them, we do have it but can we produce.

Love test cricket
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16/02/2021 10:35:04 19 1
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Too much talk abut momentum. If every team that won had momentum they would never lose again!! Each team has beaten the other convincingly. 1-1 going into the third test match, I think the majority of England fans would have settled for that at the start
16/02/2021 12:55:03 0 1
bbc
Me too. Love your log in name! Hilarious!!!
16/02/2021 17:12:39 0 0
bbc
India were superb except for the poor behaviour of their captain, he set a very poor example.
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Joe
16/02/2021 07:30:21 7 5
bbc
Ah cricket, the most fickle and arrogant sport on the planet.
The former because all the England fans now hate the players again and the latter because of Kohli's theatrics after he was bowled out the other day.
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16/02/2021 07:30:43 3 5
bbc
So predictable.Poor,helpless England.Not even one fifty in both innings.Very sorry state of affairs by poor England.
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16/02/2021 07:22:30 133 25
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Regardless of what Agnew may think a pitch on which Two fantastic 100s scored can’t be that bad.

Truth is England were outbatted and out spun here

Did we read the pitch wrong? With so few overs bowled by seamers maybe a third (wrist) spinner may have helped question though just how fit Stokes is to bowl.

Entertaining knock by Ali at the finish and bowled well too.

On to the next game
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16/02/2021 07:30:52 136 43
bbc
You are drawing the wrong conclusions. Truth is our spinners are crap. They shouldn't be getting tonked by a number 8 on a pitch tailored for spin.
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16/02/2021 08:08:54 10 6
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Clearly no idea what you are talking about ????
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16/02/2021 08:21:21 17 4
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Their spinners got tonked by our number 9!
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16/02/2021 08:26:46 9 1
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Ashwin has test centuries. No disgrace being tonked by him.
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16/02/2021 08:45:47 14 3
bbc
You are wrong, Leach & Mo bowled as many good balls as India. Ashwin gets to bowl at our hopeless batters with men in. Root simply doesn't back his spinners, negative fields. He had men up yesterday for the first hour, they had India 106-6. For some reason he took Mo off bowled himself & Ashwin played himself in knocking singles to all of the huge gaps as there were 6 on the boundary.
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16/02/2021 08:46:53 19 1
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Ashwin is a quality bat, he used to be an opener. get some knowledge before spouting off nonsense.
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16/02/2021 08:50:05 5 2
bbc
You do talk some rubbish.
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16/02/2021 08:50:44 3 1
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They aren't rubbish. Indian batsmen dealt better with playing spin.
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16/02/2021 09:25:09 2 3
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Nah Mo got 8 in the match and showed what a road it is with his 43. Star man for England this test for me.

Ashwin and Siraj hit 40 runs yesterday after Root took the new ball. Leach and Mo were turning the old one square chasing a 5fer each. Why take the new ball??
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16/02/2021 09:41:52 0 6
bbc
You're right in many ways - Leach isn't that bad but Ali has had more opportunities than he deserves for a mediocre part-time twiddler - at the expense of Bess who's been improving but binned after a bad session in the last match.

Selection is muddled thinking and favouritism. We batted like girls as well on a difficult pitch that proved to be not difficult when you serve up garbage on it.
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Sam
16/02/2021 10:14:30 2 1
bbc
Ravi Ashwin is a decent batter, and had no scoreboard pressure. Ali and Leach have a lot to learn, but they aren't crap...

With a lead of 300, any test cricketer could smash a few boundaries with a bit of luck.
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Bob
16/02/2021 10:50:32 1 1
bbc
Didn’t our No8 just ‘tonk’ supposedly the best spinning attack in the world, or doesn’t that count?
16/02/2021 12:02:27 1 1
bbc
Somewhat harsh comment ... if you hadn't realised we're playing in India against Indians who are brought up in these conditions and bowl/bat on these wickets all year round. Moeen took 8 wickets in the match and hasn't bowled in 18 months!
16/02/2021 16:09:37 0 1
bbc
India's number is a great batsman!
16/02/2021 16:16:51 0 0
bbc
Yes lets all count by numbers shall we? Ashwin is an 8 so he is clearly just a poor tail ender with the bat. Clearly not, he also kept a very calm head under a lot of passionate support pressure.
17/02/2021 18:35:06 0 0
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No just reality. That pitch took hard work and good batting to get “in” on and Ashwin did that better than our batters. This was his 5th 6th test 100 so he is no mug with bat and ranked 5 best all rounder currently. Don’t deny at all that our spinners are not good enough and have said so on here a number of times as well as county championship issues that cause that
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16/02/2021 07:32:04 7 11
bbc
So in essence, test cricket in India is decided on the initial coin toss.
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16/02/2021 07:34:04 5 1
bbc
India has lost 4 times in the last 50 matches. coin?
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16/02/2021 07:39:51 1 1
bbc
In their last 7 tests in India, England won the toss on 6 occasions but lost 4 and won only 1 out of those.
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16/02/2021 07:46:09 4 1
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Is it not possible to say that India just have players who can play the conditions better than ours but that winning the toss gives us a chance of levelling it out a bit?
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16/02/2021 07:52:02 3 1
bbc
Your post reeks of ignorance and bias.
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16/02/2021 08:02:37 1 1
bbc
Same as in England when the groundsman have green seamers ready for tests. Also how do you then explain india getting runs in the third innings
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16/02/2021 07:32:31 26 11
bbc
If Jadeja’s back I’m fearful, he’s on track to finish his career averaging over 40 with the bat and under 25 with the ball. Whilst also be the worlds best fielder.
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16/02/2021 07:45:27 4 9
bbc
Good for him. You don't really begrudge him that, do you?
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Viv
16/02/2021 07:55:54 1 1
bbc
Just be thankful he was not playing in this match. He would have been a handful on this pitch.
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16/02/2021 08:00:58 4 1
bbc
Don't write off England yet.
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16/02/2021 08:03:05 4 1
bbc
I’ve never understood why Indians don’t seem to rate Jadeja -the media seem to deride his achievement of 3 triple hundreds. We’d certainly appreciate him in the England side!
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16/02/2021 08:06:08 5 1
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There won't be 600 scores for India. Ravi Jadeja averages over 55 since 2018 with bat and 24 with the ball. Only one person has a greater differential, i.e., Kyle Jamieson. Jamieson played at home and Jadeja played more Overseas. Plus, he is a gun fielder statistically saving 11 run per innings.
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16/02/2021 07:18:20 5 18
bbc
We should be playing 4 day tests against England , Afganistan and Ireland
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16/02/2021 07:33:39 4 1
bbc
Why? because you wouldn’t have been thrashed in the first test? ??????
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16/02/2021 07:32:04 7 11
bbc
So in essence, test cricket in India is decided on the initial coin toss.
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16/02/2021 07:34:04 5 1
bbc
India has lost 4 times in the last 50 matches. coin?
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16/02/2021 07:24:20 216 30
bbc
England lost this game by making the cardinal sin of changing a winning side and not playing their best 11. You can debate the pitch, but India scored over 600 runs on it, us less than half of that. And unfortunately our spinners are just not good enough to fully exploit the conditions.
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16/02/2021 07:34:05 124 3
bbc
It’s a shame that the rotation was prearranged and not tactical -but I think it puts into context what a great win that was in the first test. We have an inexperienced batting line up -but I think they’ll come good.

I think Leach and Moeen did manage to exploit the conditions -but they both bowled too many bad balls
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16/02/2021 08:40:07 7 1
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These England batsman simply can't rotate strike, it's painful to watch.
Regarding the spinners, they do bowl the odd bad ball but surely set fields for good balls, there are far more of those. Both went at 3 an over, not having men in stopping singles or catching is far more damaging. Root is clueless once a side get under pressure.
16/02/2021 11:59:48 2 1
bbc
Leach had no excuses ... whereas Moeen hadn't bowled in about 18 months ... so then bowl 60 overs is a tall order. Shame he's now on the flight home.
16/02/2021 12:28:00 0 2
bbc
Well if you compare the batting line up of India against Australia 4th test, England's batting line up was excellent.
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16/02/2021 07:34:22 2 4
bbc
Looking forward to the day/night test, a pink ball and a pitch prepared for a 5 day test match.
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16/02/2021 07:34:41 8 7
bbc
The sad thing for cricket India is as time passes this match will be remembered for the pitch and not India’s performance.
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16/02/2021 07:44:44 7 4
bbc
Not in India: they'll remember an outstanding century from Sharma, a superb all-round perfomance by Ashwin and 5 wickets on debut for Patel.

And they crushed England.
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16/02/2021 07:35:37 28 13
bbc
Well done India - brilliant win
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16/02/2021 11:41:05 2 2
bbc
Yes indeed
16/02/2021 12:33:52 0 1
bbc
Yes. brilliant play.
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16/02/2021 07:36:00 2 4
bbc
England was schooled by India in this test. After the first test, I said they would come hard and they did. Congrats.

Now on to the day/night and three spinners.

Also, our batmans need to have a net or two on a dustbowl like they were batting today. Otherwise, India will annihilate us in the next two tests.

I said before the series started we'd lose 3/2-1. Hope they prove me wrong.
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16/02/2021 07:40:39 7 1
bbc
Everyone said India would come back hard. Everyone.
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16/02/2021 07:29:58 39 21
bbc
Test matches should not be decided by the toss.

2 games completely decided before a ball was bowled.
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16/02/2021 07:36:03 5 8
bbc
if India has this strategy then it's very generous for the opposition. Right?
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16/02/2021 07:25:16 263 16
bbc
Hats of to India, no use blaming this and that, we were truly beat, this is cricket and its about accepting loss with grace

Now its time to prepare and be ready for the next one, its 1-1 and everything is set up nicely.

Game on
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16/02/2021 07:36:18 194 62
bbc
Saying the pitch is not fit for a test is not been a bad loser.
It’s just a statement of fact.

Best team won.
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16/02/2021 08:12:08 30 12
bbc
Forestf, if you've said that about England's green, seaming pitches that have seen off Aus for 61 (Broad 8-15) and Indian teams 4 0 among many home series, then I can begin to entertain your views...
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16/02/2021 08:15:32 31 7
bbc
Same pitch for both teams, one bowled well and scored heavily and england did neither.
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16/02/2021 09:13:46 17 18
bbc
really its amazing how all the pitches are perfect for England when they play in england...its so pathetic when you guys lose you find fault with anything you can try and highlight
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AKP
16/02/2021 09:23:48 13 9
bbc
No one would have complained about the pitch had England won the toss.
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16/02/2021 10:14:14 3 2
bbc
The opposition scored two centuries. Why and How. Excuses and only excuses. You are professional. Go do your job or get fired
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16/02/2021 10:20:19 1 2
bbc
In reality the pitch was substandard for a 5 day match.India exploited it better because they are more used to dodgy wickets.i bet they face some greentops when they come over here.that will be fun to watch.
16/02/2021 12:20:40 0 3
bbc
A cricketer pitch is like a bad dancer blaming the dance floor. Boris Johnson is a knob. Now that, is a statement of fact.
16/02/2021 12:42:59 0 1
bbc
I think you mean 'not being a bad loser'. Also, the 'better' team won.
16/02/2021 14:05:26 1 1
bbc
England should be better prepared for touring and stop complaining about conditions. Cold, damp and windy conditions in England are not optimal for visiting teams. Moen Ali did well!
16/02/2021 14:43:08 0 1
bbc
I hope you use the same statement of fact next summer when England prepares a green top against India to assist Archer, Anderson etc.
I hope you get the point.
16/02/2021 16:13:46 0 0
bbc
Not sure what the pitch had to do with the result. There has been some concerns about the wicket although India's batsmen seemed to like it.
16/02/2021 17:49:27 0 1
bbc
England didn't moan when they hit 600 on a road, did they? Because that worked for them and this didn't.

People ought to realize that there are more than one ways to play cricket. That fast, bouncy tracks offering seam and swing is just one of the many ways Cricket can be played. That England failed miserably, like they have shown to in the past, the moment a true spinning track were unleashed.
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16/02/2021 07:25:30 2 4
bbc
I wonder why its the England batsmen who seem to get out to unplayable deliveries. Or simply they overhyped and their dismissals are justified by claiming no one could have played those deliveries.
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16/02/2021 07:36:25 5 1
bbc
I think it’s that the opposition spinners bowl more threatening balls consistently
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16/02/2021 07:22:30 133 25
bbc
Regardless of what Agnew may think a pitch on which Two fantastic 100s scored can’t be that bad.

Truth is England were outbatted and out spun here

Did we read the pitch wrong? With so few overs bowled by seamers maybe a third (wrist) spinner may have helped question though just how fit Stokes is to bowl.

Entertaining knock by Ali at the finish and bowled well too.

On to the next game
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16/02/2021 07:36:29 4 3
bbc
We haven’t picked a wrist Spinner for this tour -which England might regret -but to be fair India hardly used theirs
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16/02/2021 09:42:29 0 1
bbc
No point picking a third rate bowler who won't take wickets.
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16/02/2021 07:37:11 3 14
bbc
england managed by laurel and Hardy & captained by co co the clown, england never ever been able to bat against spin and still can't, now for the excuses!!!!
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16/02/2021 07:39:57 5 2
bbc
You really know your cricket.
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16/02/2021 07:37:34 542 9
bbc
Regardless of the result ...THANKS CH4 for putting it on free to air
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16/02/2021 07:51:18 140 268
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I agree but the C4 commentators and guests in the studio have been absolutely awful, I’d rather we just skipped them altogether.

Talk about bias, couldn’t they find a single Indian ex player to provide an alternative view, very one sided crap !
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16/02/2021 08:08:17 17 34
bbc
You can bet on BBC to come with a headline like this " spinners take all 10 England wickets".
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16/02/2021 08:14:13 15 71
bbc
its not free to air still got pay for license fee
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16/02/2021 08:21:22 14 44
bbc
Just goes to show how good Sky commentary team are when you look at C4. Studio feels like it was recorded back in last 80s !
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16/02/2021 08:36:10 7 21
bbc
Channel 4 didn't put it on "free to Air" - STAR in India did.
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16/02/2021 08:48:20 7 6
bbc
Thanks, C4. Actually I thought TMS was uncharacteristically poor in this test. Low on quality and technical details, high on partisan rhetoric. Very bad.
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16/02/2021 08:54:50 8 1
bbc
Definitely. Lockdown is a nightmare so brilliant to share it with whole country. Great for encouraging kids as well being half term. Last time cricket was put on tv like this was world cup final. Unfortunately England's performance and the closeness of the game weren't evident thus time! Poor performance.
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16/02/2021 09:06:10 0 3
bbc
No similar low-lights programme though (which obviously I don't regret quite as much as lst week).
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16/02/2021 09:13:41 1 2
bbc
Here, here and to see the crowds great atmosphere
16/02/2021 12:24:16 4 1
bbc
Personally I don't give a hoot for what goes on in the studio as I fast forward it. Very easy now to record the whole game and start watching at a sensible hour, and catching up by the time play finishes.

I'm only interested in watching the cricket, and despite silly comments about licence fees, I don't have to sign away more money to watch it.
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16/02/2021 07:24:20 216 30
bbc
England lost this game by making the cardinal sin of changing a winning side and not playing their best 11. You can debate the pitch, but India scored over 600 runs on it, us less than half of that. And unfortunately our spinners are just not good enough to fully exploit the conditions.
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16/02/2021 07:39:33 2 1
bbc
ditto, who changes side
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16/02/2021 07:32:04 7 11
bbc
So in essence, test cricket in India is decided on the initial coin toss.
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16/02/2021 07:39:51 1 1
bbc
In their last 7 tests in India, England won the toss on 6 occasions but lost 4 and won only 1 out of those.
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16/02/2021 07:39:54 15 13
bbc
This pitch was much better than the first test, which was decided at the toss. Here if you bowled well you tested the batsmen technique and temperament. If you batted well there were runs to have.

If you bowled badly you could go quickly and if you aren’t quick at reading the length you struggled.
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16/02/2021 07:42:50 5 6
bbc
Yep that was about it I’m afraid - and India were better at it this time
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Viv
16/02/2021 07:58:45 2 3
bbc
Agreed. Also Much better spectacle as something was happening on every ball. Unlike first test when first two days was batsman friendly and not very interesting. Always better when wicket helps bowlers.
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16/02/2021 08:00:59 0 1
bbc
I get the feeling you’re not an England fan?
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16/02/2021 08:07:42 1 2
bbc
The problem though, is we bowled badly. Inexperienced and rusty, 2 spinner attack bowling first against the worlds best batsmen against spin...

And they got 17 wickets in 2 days of play (181 overs). Again, can't understate the quality of the Indian batsmen, and lack of quality in our attack. Shouldn't have happened.

That, more than anything, is proof of a seriously dodgy pitch.
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16/02/2021 07:37:11 3 14
bbc
england managed by laurel and Hardy & captained by co co the clown, england never ever been able to bat against spin and still can't, now for the excuses!!!!
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16/02/2021 07:39:57 5 2
bbc
You really know your cricket.
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16/02/2021 08:19:10 0 1
bbc
you just gotta look at the records and facts it's easy try it
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16/02/2021 08:21:37 0 3
bbc
and i do, know cricket , i'm a certified coach
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16/02/2021 07:23:38 6 10
bbc
#You're not singing anymore# ????????????????
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16/02/2021 07:40:14 5 2
bbc
You been drinking ?? ?? ?
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16/02/2021 07:40:17 7 4
bbc
Well done India for out playing England just as they outplayed you in the first test. At least I enjoyed my breakfast watching Moeen Ali nearly score the fastest 50 in test history! On to the next match under lights with the pink ball in the hands of the oldest swinger in town ...Sir Jimmy!
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16/02/2021 07:40:18 43 21
bbc
I always say that there is no shame in losing but the manner in which you lose is the concern for England.They just capitulate without fight sending wrong message to opposition and the bigger concern is this has been their problem for many many years.No improvement at all.I always wonder what is the point of having batting coach.Why don't they teach them how to play in India against spinners?
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16/02/2021 07:58:23 8 25
bbc
I asked for them to go down fighting. Obviously they weren't capable. Can see 3 - 1 now. Morale must be rock bottom.
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16/02/2021 07:58:58 6 1
bbc
Gulam it was disappointing, but England are still capable of bouncing back and I'm interested to see how the day night test will go. Still all to play for
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16/02/2021 08:24:10 9 1
bbc
Bit reactionary to say they can't play spin in India when just 1 game ago they scored 700 runs.

This is a relatively inexperienced side who aren't used to Asian conditions so are learning on the job. Games like this will occasionally happen.
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16/02/2021 08:39:41 2 8
bbc
200% right! Both pak, eng have this lapse. Not just mentally but lack of physical strength - to handle pressure. They are the worst under presser performers of the world !!!!
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16/02/2021 07:36:00 2 4
bbc
England was schooled by India in this test. After the first test, I said they would come hard and they did. Congrats.

Now on to the day/night and three spinners.

Also, our batmans need to have a net or two on a dustbowl like they were batting today. Otherwise, India will annihilate us in the next two tests.

I said before the series started we'd lose 3/2-1. Hope they prove me wrong.
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16/02/2021 07:40:39 7 1
bbc
Everyone said India would come back hard. Everyone.
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16/02/2021 07:43:56 1 2
bbc
And?
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16/02/2021 07:40:43 9 2
bbc
I said yesterday it could easily be 300+ runs. I was hoping to be proven wrong! That hope gone, I hope they don't bring Zak back to open; he can, but his natural position is 3.

Different venue, different conditions for the next Test. In the meanwhile, the batsmen need to have a good pow-wow as to what they've learnt & how to play Indian spinners in Indian conditions!
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16/02/2021 07:45:21 14 2
bbc
It might help to hire local spinners for nets before the next test.
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16/02/2021 11:05:59 0 2
bbc
Smoke a peace pipe too
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16/02/2021 07:26:49 1 1
bbc
I look forward to seeing England preparing a series of turning tracks this summer. Nah, it's not happening is it?
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16/02/2021 07:41:16 0 1
bbc
They do it all the time as one would expect being the home side
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16/02/2021 07:39:54 15 13
bbc
This pitch was much better than the first test, which was decided at the toss. Here if you bowled well you tested the batsmen technique and temperament. If you batted well there were runs to have.

If you bowled badly you could go quickly and if you aren’t quick at reading the length you struggled.
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16/02/2021 07:42:50 5 6
bbc
Yep that was about it I’m afraid - and India were better at it this time
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16/02/2021 07:28:20 21 20
bbc
That too when Moeen was auctioning for IPL by trying to hit every ball.
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16/02/2021 07:43:13 8 3
bbc
Yep the auctions in two days time. He might have just secured himself a good contract!
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Lee
16/02/2021 07:43:20 73 8
bbc
England has ordinary spin bowlers and its batsman rarely faces world class spin.
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16/02/2021 08:23:46 74 54
bbc
They rarely play on such bad pitches either.
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16/02/2021 08:54:15 12 3
bbc
Have a look at the the Lawrence dismissal -nothing to do with the pitch. He’s had a start, shown good intent -using his feet to meet the pitch -but he’s completely misjudged the line. He hasn’t faced enough spin in county cricket and you can’t revise in an exam...
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16/02/2021 10:36:24 1 1
bbc
Bess is far from the finished article but has massive potential and should be given every opportunity to develop his art. I predict he's here for the long haul.
16/02/2021 19:41:17 0 0
bbc
Would you say that Indian batsman play spin more often than English batsmen - especially in Indian conditions?

Would you say that Indian spinners get more opportunities to bowl than the average English spinner does - especially in India conditions ?

How to compare ?
What are Indian Stats like in England compared to English Stats in India ?

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16/02/2021 07:43:26 0 3
bbc
We need to play spin better, not complain about pitches. Pitch was fine
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16/02/2021 07:43:37 4 7
bbc
Next test
Burns
Sibley
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Pope
Faulks
Woakes
Anderson
Leach
Ali
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16/02/2021 07:47:44 1 5
bbc
Yep except Ali.
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16/02/2021 07:48:20 0 1
bbc
Ali going home and leach has to play. Archer has to as well
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16/02/2021 07:57:26 1 1
bbc
I wouldn't pick Faulks, Foakes is our best Wicket-keeper batsman :)
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16/02/2021 07:19:44 9 14
bbc
No-one will disagree that India were the better side, the point that will be made is that only India could have played on this surface, and whatever the game was that was being played over the last 3 and a half days, it certainly wasn't cricket.
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16/02/2021 07:43:43 2 1
bbc
Did England win the first test in similar fashion
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16/02/2021 07:40:39 7 1
bbc
Everyone said India would come back hard. Everyone.
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16/02/2021 07:43:56 1 2
bbc
And?
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16/02/2021 07:34:41 8 7
bbc
The sad thing for cricket India is as time passes this match will be remembered for the pitch and not India’s performance.
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16/02/2021 07:44:44 7 4
bbc
Not in India: they'll remember an outstanding century from Sharma, a superb all-round perfomance by Ashwin and 5 wickets on debut for Patel.

And they crushed England.
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16/02/2021 07:44:44 7 3
bbc
Well played, Moeen Ali.

You deserved a half century!
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16/02/2021 07:44:48 4 7
bbc
Surely England can not blame the pitch as India played on it as well. Problem is the Management team are second rate, the Captain can not deal with things not going his way.
Lets just congratulate India and move on to the next test,
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16/02/2021 07:53:37 2 2
bbc
Management team 2nd rate? What do you base that on?
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16/02/2021 07:45:01 0 2
bbc
Hang on this can't be right? The tide had turned against India and England were DEFINITELY going to win according to the worlds foremost cricket expert.

Surely he wasn't wrong?
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16/02/2021 07:40:43 9 2
bbc
I said yesterday it could easily be 300+ runs. I was hoping to be proven wrong! That hope gone, I hope they don't bring Zak back to open; he can, but his natural position is 3.

Different venue, different conditions for the next Test. In the meanwhile, the batsmen need to have a good pow-wow as to what they've learnt & how to play Indian spinners in Indian conditions!
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16/02/2021 07:45:21 14 2
bbc
It might help to hire local spinners for nets before the next test.
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16/02/2021 08:10:33 0 1
bbc
You have just read my mind :)
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16/02/2021 08:54:24 1 1
bbc
We should have taken 5 spinners to India!
16/02/2021 12:08:41 1 1
bbc
I think because of Covid situation, local spinners can not be hired. India, in Australia, had to take extra players for practice. Extra players were useful to makeup for playing 11 with so many first choice players injured
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16/02/2021 07:32:31 26 11
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If Jadeja’s back I’m fearful, he’s on track to finish his career averaging over 40 with the bat and under 25 with the ball. Whilst also be the worlds best fielder.
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16/02/2021 07:45:27 4 9
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Good for him. You don't really begrudge him that, do you?
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16/02/2021 08:03:20 4 1
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Absolutely not, just as an Englishman I’d rather he did it after this series
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Sam
16/02/2021 10:30:23 1 1
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No, I don't think he does begrudge him that. Sounds admiring rather than grudging...
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16/02/2021 07:25:30 2 4
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I wonder why its the England batsmen who seem to get out to unplayable deliveries. Or simply they overhyped and their dismissals are justified by claiming no one could have played those deliveries.
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16/02/2021 07:45:39 0 1
bbc
The same could be said of opposition batsmen suffering from world class swing bowling from Anderson et al in English conditions.
Take your racist vitriol away from here please Removed
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16/02/2021 07:45:53 4 1
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Silly comment by Vikram which I’m sure is just banter but how is that racist?? Sort yourself out
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16/02/2021 07:45:57 1 4
bbc
Moeen is going home for a rest. Surely he needs game time as his bowling was rusty despite the wickets. Anderson and Archer shouldcome back.for day night test and Bairstow and Crawley will strengthen batting
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16/02/2021 07:29:58 39 21
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Test matches should not be decided by the toss.

2 games completely decided before a ball was bowled.
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16/02/2021 07:46:09 5 5
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EXACTLY what I've been saying for ages but usual suspects disagree. The toss has way too much influence on certain pitches.
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16/02/2021 08:35:17 3 3
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In a previous life I was a groundsman. To ensure that pitches were of a high enough standard, they were assessed and given a mark by the umpires.
If the ratings dropped below a certain level the team would loose points.
Had I produced the wickets for the first two tests, not only would the team have lost points, I have probably been asked to "take a rest"..
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16/02/2021 07:32:04 7 11
bbc
So in essence, test cricket in India is decided on the initial coin toss.
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16/02/2021 07:46:09 4 1
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Is it not possible to say that India just have players who can play the conditions better than ours but that winning the toss gives us a chance of levelling it out a bit?
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16/02/2021 07:47:10 5 7
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If England don't pick Woakes for the day/night Test, with all the indications being that it will swing, then he should retire from Test cricket. Never has a player been treated so badly by a cricket board.
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16/02/2021 07:51:18 5 2
bbc
Yes, because playing second fiddle to two bowlers with over 1100 test wickets between them is a travesty.
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16/02/2021 07:56:43 1 3
bbc
Fair point ...

Also YJB and Moeen in the past and now have been shunted around and mistreated even Ian Bell was by the Management all be it Bayliss.

This Test hopefully a wake up call for the ECB to actually start looking and planning Tours and development.

Yes hinderance by the Covid plus the way they were trying to organise Tests before this Tour knowing we needed practice on turning pitches.
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16/02/2021 08:18:59 2 1
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The issue for including Woakes is he’s the same action and a similar pace as Stokes, Broad and Anderson -hopefully he’ll get a few tests this summer
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16/02/2021 09:38:34 0 1
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Foakes has been treated worse...
16/02/2021 16:31:49 0 0
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Woakes has been unlucky to play in same era as Anderson and Stokes. In other periods he would be a fixture. His time will come when Anderson does retire, his extra batting will allow the team to have the best spinner rather than needing a spinner who can bat at 8.
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16/02/2021 07:24:20 216 30
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England lost this game by making the cardinal sin of changing a winning side and not playing their best 11. You can debate the pitch, but India scored over 600 runs on it, us less than half of that. And unfortunately our spinners are just not good enough to fully exploit the conditions.
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16/02/2021 07:47:16 6 5
bbc
India made the same mistake in the previous test of not playing their best 11.
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16/02/2021 07:43:37 4 7
bbc
Next test
Burns
Sibley
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Pope
Faulks
Woakes
Anderson
Leach
Ali
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16/02/2021 07:47:44 1 5
bbc
Yep except Ali.
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16/02/2021 07:50:39 0 2
bbc
We need 2 spinners minimum. Pick 2 out of Leach, Ali and Bess. Slim pickings.
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16/02/2021 07:47:49 48 11
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India were fantastic and England were crap, let’s move onto the third test now!
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16/02/2021 07:47:55 1 3
bbc
Well played India, thoroughly deserved win. Series now 1-1.
Move on and concentrate on next Test. Series not over yet.
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16/02/2021 07:43:37 4 7
bbc
Next test
Burns
Sibley
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Pope
Faulks
Woakes
Anderson
Leach
Ali
90
16/02/2021 07:48:20 0 1
bbc
Ali going home and leach has to play. Archer has to as well
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16/02/2021 07:52:00 5 1
bbc
Archer? On what evidence?
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16/02/2021 07:27:38 2 6
bbc
The fact that the highest partnership of the innings was the last wicket says a lot about the lack of intent from England's batsmen.

England never tried to resettle the Indian spinners this match. If only someone could have played like Moeen at the top , we would have had a decent viewing today. Losing is fine but not fighting for it is not!!
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16/02/2021 07:48:30 1 1
bbc
I’m not sure that Burns and Sibley smashing 6s would’ve been the best approach -but it’s frustrating we couldn’t form a decent partnership -enough of our batsmen had decent starts in the match
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16/02/2021 07:48:41 14 5
bbc
Pink ball...things that we can moan about...
1) pink ball not as good
2) pitch not fit for purpose
3) wrong type of flood lights
4) Toss
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16/02/2021 08:42:10 5 1
bbc
5)Wrong sunglasses
6)Wrong night vision glasses
7)Wicket keepers constant absurd screaming/whining deafened me
8)Over-rated
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16/02/2021 11:05:03 0 2
bbc
Wrong type of Indians
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16/02/2021 07:48:55 2 6
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Next test will come and go.No chance for England.Look at the way they crumble against spinners.So called international players.
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16/02/2021 07:49:12 0 1
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Well played India. Adapted to the conditions quickly and showed us how to play on that surface.
I know Eng have a rotation policy in place atm, but surely - with the test champ final at stake - we've got to play our best XI?
Still, series shaping up nicely and the great thing is we get to put right this week's wrongs in the next game. Good luck to both teams, would love an England win next week!
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16/02/2021 07:49:14 1 8
bbc
Drop Lawrence, Ali and bring in Bairstow and Anderson.
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16/02/2021 07:58:45 4 1
bbc
Drop Moeen!? The guy who was leading wicket taker for us in both innings and top scorer in 2nd innings!!??

Don’t let facts get in your way!

In Moeen case he’s had no match practice whatsoever, was unfortunately ill during Sri Lanka series and no warm up here. And in spite of that he still performed well in this match

I still think Bess should’ve played as well as Moeen, it was a 3 spinner match
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16/02/2021 07:59:42 0 2
bbc
Drop England's best player in this Test? 8 wickets and a courageous 43? Why? If only one spinner needed, drop Leach.
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16/02/2021 07:19:56 7 6
bbc
England made to look like goats. No capitals. Just goats.
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16/02/2021 07:49:34 1 2
bbc
More like kids!
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16/02/2021 07:24:20 216 30
bbc
England lost this game by making the cardinal sin of changing a winning side and not playing their best 11. You can debate the pitch, but India scored over 600 runs on it, us less than half of that. And unfortunately our spinners are just not good enough to fully exploit the conditions.
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Viv
16/02/2021 07:49:53 9 1
bbc
Also make up of bowling attack was flawed - 3 seamers and two spinners on a spinning track. Needed at least one more spinner possibly in place of Broad. May have provided a bit more variety in attack.
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16/02/2021 08:22:56 5 2
bbc
Agree, not enough spinners. Stone and Broad were ineffective and Stokes not bowled.
However the batting left a lot to be desired. On such a poor pitch there is no point trying to play as if you're an a flat track.
The Indian batsmen gave it a lot more of the long handle.
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16/02/2021 08:46:49 9 1
bbc
Whatever was the make up of the bowling attack, they did get 20 Indian wickets. If there was any flaw then it was very poor batting. Why are the bowlers always to blame?
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16/02/2021 08:52:42 1 1
bbc
Yes. And Stokes didn't bowl. Broad was wasted and Anderson should have played, if not Bess.
87
16/02/2021 07:47:44 1 5
bbc
Yep except Ali.
98
16/02/2021 07:50:39 0 2
bbc
We need 2 spinners minimum. Pick 2 out of Leach, Ali and Bess. Slim pickings.
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16/02/2021 07:37:34 542 9
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Regardless of the result ...THANKS CH4 for putting it on free to air
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16/02/2021 07:51:18 140 268
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I agree but the C4 commentators and guests in the studio have been absolutely awful, I’d rather we just skipped them altogether.

Talk about bias, couldn’t they find a single Indian ex player to provide an alternative view, very one sided crap !
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16/02/2021 08:03:08 44 12
bbc
No sure what channel 4 you're watching...!
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16/02/2021 08:07:49 74 8
bbc
Most of the commentators are ex India players so this remark is mystifying
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16/02/2021 08:13:55 33 10
bbc
there's plenty of India bias on the comms, where they aren't even allowed to criticise their players.
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16/02/2021 08:16:52 62 4
bbc
??? The commentary team were based in India and all but two (of a team of 12 commentators?) were Indian. You must have been watching a different broadcast.
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16/02/2021 08:19:02 11 18
bbc
I dig your last part o your comment re Indian cricketer/representative. Maybe addressed in the forthcoming Tests.
Strauss, Jones & Ebony Brent have been quite fair.
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16/02/2021 08:28:12 30 3
bbc
Just turn the sound off, it's amazing and works very well with lots of other sports.
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MN
16/02/2021 08:29:12 46 4
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I don't know what commentary feed viewers in the UK get, you should consider yourself fortunate. us based in India have to listen to tripe from Harsha Bhogle and Manjrekar. only saving grace is that Shastri is coach and we don't have to listen to him.

re, the bias, BCCI is thin skinned and touchy about criticism especially from its own fraternity ... you will find only cronies around ...
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16/02/2021 09:00:12 4 1
bbc
Like the umpiring then
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16/02/2021 09:27:56 1 4
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Plus they have that dismal theme song.
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16/02/2021 09:56:27 3 2
bbc
Absolutely. You would think that they are only speaking to an Indian audience. I also thought they were somewhat patronising
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16/02/2021 10:11:13 7 2
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Agree with you 100%. I am an Indian supporter & thought all their comments simply was bigging Indian players up & therefore I turned down the volume of the broadcast & had the test match social on in the background.
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16/02/2021 10:41:29 1 2
bbc
Bit like the Indian umpires.
852
16/02/2021 11:03:03 6 1
bbc
Much like the Talksport radio coverage, dreadful ex player and professional spongers.
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16/02/2021 11:16:20 1 1
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Love it. Just makes it sweeter when they loose the seies.
16/02/2021 11:48:56 0 1
bbc
Is that because you don't like what you are hearing?
Rod
16/02/2021 12:09:56 3 1
bbc
have u got a volume/mute button? ;-)
Sri
16/02/2021 12:32:18 0 1
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Is it not possible to mix the BBC TMS Audio with the visuals of Channel 4? Maybe not as easy it sounds but asking.
16/02/2021 12:33:18 7 1
bbc
Which game were you watching? Indian ex-players dominated the commentary team on Channel 4, and Mark Butcher was a refreshing change from the Sky commentary team (particularly the verbose droning on of Rob Key).
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16/02/2021 07:47:10 5 7
bbc
If England don't pick Woakes for the day/night Test, with all the indications being that it will swing, then he should retire from Test cricket. Never has a player been treated so badly by a cricket board.
100
16/02/2021 07:51:18 5 2
bbc
Yes, because playing second fiddle to two bowlers with over 1100 test wickets between them is a travesty.
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16/02/2021 07:55:24 2 3
bbc
I agree. Woakes actually has a better record than both of them in England.