Covid: Rapid tests could help reopen nightclubs, PM suggests
16/02/2021
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Boris Johnson suggests testing clubbers and theatregoers to reopen venues that have been closed since March.
I can't wait to go dancing again, when it finally happens.
Bring it on.
Bring it on.
Most countries haven't closed their borders. Only Aus and NZ have.
Time you grew up
I have no time for the tories but this closing the border BS is only for flag waving little englanders
Far more virus spreading caused by people in uk travelling around uk, partying etc Removed
I have no time for the tories but this closing the border BS is only for flag waving little englanders
Far more virus spreading caused by people in uk travelling around uk, partying etc Removed
perhaps you could tell us how many international airlines are Tory party donors ?
Miserable old HYS grouches are rubbing their hands together with glee, at the continued closing of nightclubs.
Some people are joyless grumps.
Some people are joyless grumps.
Given that only you had posted on this topic up to this post, I assume you are a conflicted 'HYS grouch' or 'joyless grump'.
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Some people get pleasure from loud music and MDMA. Other people gt pleasure from birdwatching or stamp collecting. Just because people find their pleasure in different things, doesn't make either of them wrong.
Lateral Flow Tests at nightclub doors simply won't work. It's a daft idea - suggested by someone who clearly hasn't been to a nightclub.
Best to wait until it's actually safe to open these types of venues rather than lumber them with an unworkable "solution".
Best to wait until it's actually safe to open these types of venues rather than lumber them with an unworkable "solution".
True in a crowded venue with lots of drinking I can see it being hard to organise. But what about in a more controlled situation where punters have to book ahead? Say a theatre or cinema?
As Boris said it’s a long way off. If you want clubs open you will have to come up with a breed statement than you have. I suspect you simply dislike BJ rather than have anything useful to add
You're never suggesting someone who's been on the pop all night may become belligerent when they are requested to take a test? Drunk people are 100% cooperative. Fact! Honest!
But if everyone going in tests negative then what does it mater how close people get to each other? I have been to a night club about 5 times in my life and am not a fan but I strongly support the notion of people who test negative for covid having the right to choose to go in there if they want to.
It will be as safe as anything else after vaccination
Absolute madness.
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
That is complete rubbish COVID has a mortality rate of 1% flu .05% without lockdown deaths would exceed 700’000 in UK
I agree. Your post is absolute madness, to think it's that simple
Not sure why clubs are even closed - from what I remember there were never too many oldies, fatties or wheezies in there...
They are closed to stop the spread of the virus there, people of all ages can spread the virus you known.
I guess you're ignorant and don't know that.
I guess you're ignorant and don't know that.
Point is you students who are afraid of work and the real world unless you're studying something worthwhile, will know a oldie, a fattie, a wheezie and pass it to them.
At my age nightclubs are out of the question, but I would very much appreciate theatres opening.
I just want to be able to pop into the village local for a pint after work!
Me too. especially as most of my friends work(ed) in theatre. Also the UK is internationally renowned for theatre. Not sure that's true of clubs, but each to his own...
For me too but I sincerely hope young people can enjoy clubs as I did at their age. I'm looking forward to theatres, museums, cinemas but ,for the sake of the nation's mental health, we need to get everybody back to living life. With patince , it will come!
I'd appreciate it if the government would open their brains and start learning from their disastrous handling of this crisis. Sadly it seems they still have not done that.
Apart from the false negative issues, the keenness of night club owners not to turn away cash, the logistical nightmare of testing and providing a safe waiting area for hundreds of half cut young people, and the queues outside that won’t observe distancing, it is a brilliant idea.
Just go for a laugh, some still have an 980's section :D
Oh no you wouldn't!
Could work with theatres and cinemas where the audience is seated. Could be used in conjunction with masks, spacing and lower capacity. Vaccination cards could also be shown.
Pubs, clubs and restaurants are going to closed for a lot longer thank people think they will.
So Boris "suggets" lateral flow tests could enable nightclubs and theatres to reopen, despite the testing pilot in Liverpool picking up 2/3rd of the most infectious cases & only 40% of all cases, far fewer than expected!
Sounds like another "world beater" is on the way!??
Sounds like another "world beater" is on the way!??
Surely you mean PCR tests picking up 5 fold more positives largely because of its ability to amplify dead / inactive virus? Oh wait we're talking 'cases' not people who are sick...
Considerable difference between sitting in a theatre and mingling and drinking and holding another tightly in a nightclub.
Yup, lockdown #4 if Boris has is way...
Life moves on and we learn to live with things, now to come up with a HIV vaccine if we can but has so far proven elusive, it still kills an awful lot of people and is constantly mutating.
and malaria...
HIV is functionally cured i.e. if you get infected you will be on drugs for the rest of your life but it won't kill you.
Look I'm 24, and I'm not going to lie I would REALLY love a good night out at a club around about now. But come on, these tests only find 40% of cases. That is no where near good enough.
So in that case, Johnson needs to provide better testing.
It's why we pay our taxes.
It's why we pay our taxes.
So nightclubs to remain closed until we have achieved an eradication of the virus which may be in 10 years or may be never?
So how do you reopen clubs and theatres then? It is just another aid on top of everything else which helps to get things open. I agree no test is 100% accurate, but having the test and reopening is better then not having the test and reopening. It is on top of everything else including the vaccination of any one that wants one
No that is wrong information. There are now numerous LFT that give 93% correct result and they are improving all the time. Please stop relying on Facebook and Instagram for your information
About one person in 40 has Covid. So in a venue with 480 people, 12 could have Covid. Of which 40% may not be detected. So 5 people are admitted infectious. So if they each infect 5 others, 25 people come out of the venue with the disease.
Not a great result.
Not a great result.
Who cares if the cases it misses are those that are not infectious yet?
Sounds as if the fines aren’t high enough.
Yeah you’re definitely a 24 year old clubber lmao, and I’m 78 year old widower
I watched a concert a week or so ago, where everyone was in and inflatable space bubble, the band flaming lips played for nearly 2 hours it worked well to keep people safe. Google it
Just maybe this is the way to go?
Just maybe this is the way to go?
I can't wait to get to the Life at Bowler's reunion, whoop, whoop
I'm sorry to say that we've seen the last of pubs and clubs, folk have moved on, been without did so long they are no longer needed
You may be young but lots of common sense Thank you
More great work from our Prime Minister.
I feel ashamed now that I didn't vote for him.
We are miles ahead of the rest of Europe in our response to this pandemic - he was right about leaving the EU too!
What a guy!
I feel ashamed now that I didn't vote for him.
We are miles ahead of the rest of Europe in our response to this pandemic - he was right about leaving the EU too!
What a guy!
France is a total mash up at the moment, the virus roll out is a disaster (like their PM!) and about half the French are refusing the vaccines. Looks like UK residents won't be taking any holidays there this year!
And what's your point on the use of lateral flow tests, which is the actual subject, not how much you fancy Boris???
Boris is soft when it comes to EU...only Portugal on red list for quarantine
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Here we are again with all the rosy talk and and blind optimism that ignores reality and the likelihood of another wave kicking off as lockdown is released too fast again.
Also I notice we're not allowed to point out how stupid Johnson's attempt to "protect free speech". Just another culture war made up by the Tories to keep people distracted from their many failures (including this).
Also I notice we're not allowed to point out how stupid Johnson's attempt to "protect free speech". Just another culture war made up by the Tories to keep people distracted from their many failures (including this).
Having 2 queues, 1 to get tested and another to get the result & enter isn't a big ask & is much more manageable than trying to enforce social distancing inside.
This approach combined with the vaccine & readily available tests to all (to save a wasted trip to the gig/club/theatre) should work.
The public appetite for live shows is enormous. This seems like the answer
This approach combined with the vaccine & readily available tests to all (to save a wasted trip to the gig/club/theatre) should work.
The public appetite for live shows is enormous. This seems like the answer
Flow tests are completely unreliable, around 50% detection rate. You might as well pick people at random!
This time data should drive release from lockdown not Wetherspoons
.... as it should have done on previous occasions when the Government was encouraged to relax restrictions on meeting others.
The winter spike was predicted well before winter - and, totally unsurprisingly, happened.
The winter spike was predicted well before winter - and, totally unsurprisingly, happened.
End December 70,000 cases per day...now, less than 10,000.
The above is nothing to do with Wetherspoons, more to do with WHO worldometer stats.
Try reading, instead of just looking at the pictures.
The above is nothing to do with Wetherspoons, more to do with WHO worldometer stats.
Try reading, instead of just looking at the pictures.
The only data the Tories care about is the data of how much the people lobbying for an action donate to the Tory party.
We have seen it again and again throughout this crisis the government will listen to Tory cronies ahead of the evidence every time.
We have seen it again and again throughout this crisis the government will listen to Tory cronies ahead of the evidence every time.
You mean like when they shut pubs because they assumed that is where spread happened? Then the evidence showed that to be wrong, but they kept them shut anyway (as admitted by Vallance)? Evidence hasn't driven anything since early Match 2020. Just fear, lies and superstition.
Here we go again - giving in to the populist demand.
Opening too soon will kill more people
I write this while awaiting to find out if my cousin is still alive or not
Every death has been because of Westminster’s stupidity
Opening too soon will kill more people
I write this while awaiting to find out if my cousin is still alive or not
Every death has been because of Westminster’s stupidity
Most deaths have been through the general public's stupidity. The government doesn't tell people to have parties or all flock to the same place in great crowds, people make those decisions themselves. Or would you rather have army road blocks everywhere and people being arrested all over the place? This isn't Burma you know.
Indeed, I still haven't seen my family since well before Christmas and haven't yet been able to give them their Christmas presents due to the last minute changes in December. I now where my priorities lie and it isn't at the pub or a restaurant.
Not it hasn’t, it’s been because there is a virus. If the virus didn’t exist no one would have died of Covid irrespective of who the Government was
Nightclub reopening depends on social distancing restrictions going that is sometime down the track.
Can see Pubs and Theatres reopening with still some social distancing in place so they will be sooner. Do not see flow tests playing a role in either.
Can see Pubs and Theatres reopening with still some social distancing in place so they will be sooner. Do not see flow tests playing a role in either.
Why not, a lot of people need to get their confidence back and a flow test would be another layer which would help this. I went to a theatre between lockdowns and as well as having social distancing they took your temperature, a quick flow test would just be another aid to helping them reopen.
Boris, forget this cynical attempt to win youth vote. They will have forgotten about it by the next election. Those of us at risk from covid think you have done fine, few under 50s care either way and are frustrated by lack of total freedom. Please don't give in to the business lobby until I and my diabetic son (40) and all those in the same situation have been vaccinated. The fit young can wait.
What? Boris has "done fine" when England has the second highest covid death rate in the world? Pull the other one.
Lol. A good job with over 112k dead? The only good job was nhs vaccine rollout everything else was a disaster. The youth are paying a high price to help the old and vunerable. You can be older and fit as well diet and excercise. Show a bit more appreciation for you youth rather than your distain.
So you suggest that the young are selfish and self centred for wanting their lives back based on the principle you need to be vaccinated so you can go out again. Slight hypocrisy there in that statement. You want to restrict everyone else so you're not restricted.
Nightclubs have closed ? Not according to the frequent reports that we keep getting.
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
Most countries haven't closed their borders. Only Aus and NZ have.
NZ have 40 people per sq mile, while the UK is over 1,000.
NZ are Sth hemisphere...hardly a breeding ground for corona viruses, if you look at nearby crowded countires like Japan, who had little in the way of restrictions and a comparable death rate to NZ.
NZ may have just kicked the can down the road and set themselves a 5 year covid headache.
NZ are Sth hemisphere...hardly a breeding ground for corona viruses, if you look at nearby crowded countires like Japan, who had little in the way of restrictions and a comparable death rate to NZ.
NZ may have just kicked the can down the road and set themselves a 5 year covid headache.
"And NZ have excellent low rates of Covid."
They certainly do, but I'm not sure the UK and NZ are like-for-like comparisons.
Just coming back to your original point, most countries haven't closed their borders, and that's nothing to do with the Tory party I suspect.
They certainly do, but I'm not sure the UK and NZ are like-for-like comparisons.
Just coming back to your original point, most countries haven't closed their borders, and that's nothing to do with the Tory party I suspect.
Not sure why clubs are even closed - from what I remember there were never too many oldies, fatties or wheezies in there...
At my age nightclubs are out of the question, but I would very much appreciate theatres opening.
This is the way forward. Be patient.
But there are idiots who can’t wait and are partying now and spreading the virus.
But there are idiots who can’t wait and are partying now and spreading the virus.
What an idiot, these tests are notoriously unreliable and should only be used as a last resort.
The PATHETIC clown.
The PATHETIC clown.
So how else would you reopen theatres etc? If you don’t use something like this they will never reopen again. What is your suggestion for how to get them reopened again?
Gotta find some way to justify the money spent on them, is what it comes down to
Absolute madness.
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Robert Koch Institute estimates between 0.16%-0.8% mortality depending on the quality of the health system in place.
I trust the Germans to get the data right more than our govt's propaganda and lies
I trust the Germans to get the data right more than our govt's propaganda and lies
Probably better opening clubs where you have some level of control rather than the illegal parties where there's none.
We will never get to 'zero covid' so there's no point keeping things closed for another year.
We will never get to 'zero covid' so there's no point keeping things closed for another year.
Absolute madness.
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
If the vaccines work then we really do not need all of these additional measures to protect us from something that is ever less dangerous!
If the vaccines don't work then we really do not need all of these freedom-limiting measures to protect us from something that was never that dangerous in the first place!
This is not Smallpox or Ebola!
Time for all sane people to start to re-live again!
If the vaccines don't work then we really do not need all of these freedom-limiting measures to protect us from something that was never that dangerous in the first place!
This is not Smallpox or Ebola!
Time for all sane people to start to re-live again!
"something that was never that dangerous in the first place!"
Ask the almost 120k who have died so far if it wasn't that dangerous...
Ask the almost 120k who have died so far if it wasn't that dangerous...
Here is a perfect example as to why COVID passports are going to be a thing.
Testing everyone on the front door is unworkable, (how does a 500 person venue isolate all the people waiting for their results outside the club quietly and without disrupting traffic) but if everyone is being ID'ed anyway a "vaccine passport" which is stamped more than 3 weeks ago is the solution.
Testing everyone on the front door is unworkable, (how does a 500 person venue isolate all the people waiting for their results outside the club quietly and without disrupting traffic) but if everyone is being ID'ed anyway a "vaccine passport" which is stamped more than 3 weeks ago is the solution.
Why on earth is this even being discussed. It is no loss to the economy or to wider society if these filthy, unhygienic cesspits never reopen.
What are you prattling on about ?
Are you afraid to go outside ?
Are you afraid to go outside ?
Nightclubs contribute six percent a year to the GDP of the UK economy, MORE than fishing, but fishing was in the news for months?
You clearly have no idea about the size and value of the night time economy. Clearly you also have never had any enjoyment in your life.
The happy and fun loving youngsters frequenting nightclubs are not going to be affected by Covid, and the probably won’t even be aware they have it unless tested.
However the grumpy gits moaning about it need to take of themselves. Get vaccines and allow life to continue
The gov need to stop these silly ideas purely designed to appease the Covid never-enders.
However the grumpy gits moaning about it need to take of themselves. Get vaccines and allow life to continue
The gov need to stop these silly ideas purely designed to appease the Covid never-enders.
Yes they aren't going to be affected but can easily spread it.
This is the Brains of Britain over here folks!
A stage 7!
This is the Brains of Britain over here folks!
A stage 7!
There seems to be a collective amnesia that the summer of 2020 ever happened. No rule of six, no ridiculous mask rules when walking five yards to the gents in pubs, and, most importantly, cases were in three or low four figures *without a vaccine nor treatments we have now*. I don't understand why people are pushing for more restrictions than we had last year now we've multiple effective vaccines.
Doctors will tell you that hospitals are currently full of people in their 30's and 40's who are suffering from Covid, most will survive, but many of them will suffer long term serious health impacts as a result.
How many young parents are you willing to sacrifice to support Wetherspoons profits?
How many young parents are you willing to sacrifice to support Wetherspoons profits?
The government does not devise the tests, science does and can only work to the best available technology. Facile assumptions that throwing money at a problem is all you need to do, are absolutely no help at all
'Johnson' cannot miraculously provide wonderful 100|% accurate instantaneous tests out of thin air.
The HYS feature does have better accuracy for idiot-testing though.
RIght, and while he's at it, he should come up with an electric car that never needs charging and a pill that cures all cancers.
The law requires the venues to be safe; they need to be paying for vaccines themselves if that's what they need to do to open. Real businesses have to pay for all their own PPE and safety.
Not sure why clubs are even closed - from what I remember there were never too many oldies, fatties or wheezies in there...
Vaccinate the vulnerable and that's it, back to normal, no more case numbers, testing, "models", targets or slogans.
Exactly.
The restrictions are in place to not overload the NHS, which 99% of people agree with.
Decisions on risk lie with the individual.
Risk of dying on Everest is 4%.
Ban ascents?
Cancel the IOM TT.
Ban caving/potholing?
Let people live their lives.
If you live life in front of your TV then stay there.
The restrictions are in place to not overload the NHS, which 99% of people agree with.
Decisions on risk lie with the individual.
Risk of dying on Everest is 4%.
Ban ascents?
Cancel the IOM TT.
Ban caving/potholing?
Let people live their lives.
If you live life in front of your TV then stay there.
Absolute madness.
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Covid mortality rate? 1%
Mortality rate seasonal flu? 2.8%
Boris, forget this cynical attempt to win youth vote. They will have forgotten about it by the next election. Those of us at risk from covid think you have done fine, few under 50s care either way and are frustrated by lack of total freedom. Please don't give in to the business lobby until I and my diabetic son (40) and all those in the same situation have been vaccinated. The fit young can wait.
UK is leading the world in our death rate.
Gibraltar has the #1 death rate in the world, and the UK (even after the Tories decided to exclude people who survived beyond 28 days in ICU) has the highest death rate in the G20 (and the worst economic hit as well)
Truely leading the world in having the worst outcomes.
Gibraltar has the #1 death rate in the world, and the UK (even after the Tories decided to exclude people who survived beyond 28 days in ICU) has the highest death rate in the G20 (and the worst economic hit as well)
Truely leading the world in having the worst outcomes.
Don't know about clubs, but it would be good if the village local could reopen!
Why don't they test for STD's at night clubs if they are serious about peoples health
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And the drugs taken by some of the revelers. Like Covid, drugs and sex are never going away.
Down with that sort of thing.
Lateral Flow Tests at nightclub doors simply won't work. It's a daft idea - suggested by someone who clearly hasn't been to a nightclub.
Best to wait until it's actually safe to open these types of venues rather than lumber them with an unworkable "solution".
Best to wait until it's actually safe to open these types of venues rather than lumber them with an unworkable "solution".
We absolutely MUST move away from the "group" culture of clubs, theatres, gigs etc. Covid-19 needs to be a wake up call. The next pandemic virus could be a serious killer (c.f. Marburg) and if we continue to travel abroad for holidays and have large-group socialisation we risk extermination as an entire SPECICES.
There's a balance to be had between "living" and "not dying". I'm not sure you have this quite right here. Live your life how you please, but there's no way people will go for this.
If we are going to stay locked down forever, in just case a new pandemic virus appears, maybe you should ask Putin or Biden to press their big red button, and put the whole world out of it's misery!
Boris, forget this cynical attempt to win youth vote. They will have forgotten about it by the next election. Those of us at risk from covid think you have done fine, few under 50s care either way and are frustrated by lack of total freedom. Please don't give in to the business lobby until I and my diabetic son (40) and all those in the same situation have been vaccinated. The fit young can wait.
The whole point of nightlife is socialising with other people. And that’s the problem. We’re not talking a few old blokes in a pub discussing the dog racing - we’re talking hundreds and thousands in some cases. It’ll never go back to the way it was. People need to accept it I’m afraid.
You mean young people who are hardly a health risk?
Look at the stats.
Look at the stats.
Yes, it will go back to the way it was. Under no circumstance will young people be forced to cower inside for the rest of our young lives purely for the benefit of a generation that has completely screwed the vast majority of us out of anything even approaching a decent living.
If it isn’t clubs, and then prepare for the 90s illegal scene to return in full force, and we won’t be kind about it.
If it isn’t clubs, and then prepare for the 90s illegal scene to return in full force, and we won’t be kind about it.
The UK has:
Worst death rate in the G20
Worst economic impact in the G20
Boris and the Tories have panicked and awarded contracts to vaccine suppliers with no liability clause should those vaccines prove harmful to the recipients.
They have gone against expert advice and instituted a single dose approach despite being warned that this risks causing more vaccine resistant variants...
Worst death rate in the G20
Worst economic impact in the G20
Boris and the Tories have panicked and awarded contracts to vaccine suppliers with no liability clause should those vaccines prove harmful to the recipients.
They have gone against expert advice and instituted a single dose approach despite being warned that this risks causing more vaccine resistant variants...
Boris, forget this cynical attempt to win youth vote. They will have forgotten about it by the next election. Those of us at risk from covid think you have done fine, few under 50s care either way and are frustrated by lack of total freedom. Please don't give in to the business lobby until I and my diabetic son (40) and all those in the same situation have been vaccinated. The fit young can wait.
If enough people resist this tyranny it will never happen.
I am wonder what percentage of people have been so scared by the medias constant fear porn that they might go along with this nonsense
I am wonder what percentage of people have been so scared by the medias constant fear porn that they might go along with this nonsense
Yeah Boris its a real necessity @ the moment ???
He's not talking about at the moment, though, is he? He's talking about the future.
Here we go again - giving in to the populist demand.
Opening too soon will kill more people
I write this while awaiting to find out if my cousin is still alive or not
Every death has been because of Westminster’s stupidity
Opening too soon will kill more people
I write this while awaiting to find out if my cousin is still alive or not
Every death has been because of Westminster’s stupidity
Last week I heard that I had lost a friend and colleague to Covid.
He was in his 50's, fit, and previously healthy.
I last spoke to him a little before Xmas.
It seems Boris's decision to delay lockdown over the festive period cost him his life.
He leaves behind a son who has just started secondary school.
Clubs and pubs can wait, enough people have died.
He was in his 50's, fit, and previously healthy.
I last spoke to him a little before Xmas.
It seems Boris's decision to delay lockdown over the festive period cost him his life.
He leaves behind a son who has just started secondary school.
Clubs and pubs can wait, enough people have died.
Cue the moaners. It seems that some people are really enjoying this situation and will be sad to see things back to normal.
Yes, because I love not commuting, I love not destroying the environment and I love being happy with the simple pleasures in life.. enjoying the rat race and uncontrolled greed of human expansion at the planets expense is for the crazy..
It also seems that some people are REALLY struggling with not being able to get a hair-cut or a pint.
I could only imagine what a mess you would be if there was a war.
I could only imagine what a mess you would be if there was a war.
HYS grumps LOVE the misery of lockdown, and positively wallow in it.
“Cue the moaners. It seems that some people are really enjoying this situation and will be sad to see things back to normal.”
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Sound like you’re moaning about that.
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Sound like you’re moaning about that.
Out of everything in this country that's been affected Nightclubs is about the least important & also one of the highest risk environments. Of course being able to socialise is important so getting cafe's, restaurants & pubs back open is something that needs to be on the agenda, nightclubs however should be the very last thing that opens up.
So how come pubs are safer than clubs ?
Where is your science ?
Where is your science ?
So you only want the venues where you socialism to reopen but not any other ones? Got it
Gyms should be the last thing. Rooms full of people hyperventilating.
Run round the park.
Run round the park.
Where in this article does it say that nightclubs will open first...?
You have no idea what culture is if you rank them at all especially least important.
Difference between a busy nightclub and a busy pub?
Agree
I doubt they are the least important to nightclub owners who have had no income for approaching 12 months now.
No, Boris was asked a very specific question and he gave an answer.
Only a complete moron would think opening up a nightclub right now is safe even with testing.
This article is just to trigger the boring middle class twerps who think going out is sitting in a vegan cafe sipping on an oatmilk latte whilst droning about house prices.
Only a complete moron would think opening up a nightclub right now is safe even with testing.
This article is just to trigger the boring middle class twerps who think going out is sitting in a vegan cafe sipping on an oatmilk latte whilst droning about house prices.
It's the least important if you are happy sitting at home watching moronic soap opera drivel????
A 40% success rate.
Wasn't there a report last year of one infected man, infecting hundreds of others in nightclubs?
Is it worth the risk for the sake of a few more weeks?
Wasn't there a report last year of one infected man, infecting hundreds of others in nightclubs?
Is it worth the risk for the sake of a few more weeks?
FGS read the article! No-one is talking about doing this within the next few weeks!
imagine if someone flies in from EU then visits a nightclub. No quarantine for EU nationals at airports
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Johnson said it is a way off and there was lots to consider before this became reality. Put your political ideology aside and listen to his words and read the reports
You better stay under your duvet until nobody dies, ever again.
Why would waiting a few weeks change anything (given that this plan is for after a large proportion of the population has been vaccinated)?
Not sure why clubs are even closed - from what I remember there were never too many oldies, fatties or wheezies in there...
Interested to know what you consider "worthwhile" Steve? And how you feel you are qualified to judge?
Yes boys, get me a snakebite from the bar whilst I gag on this testing stick at the pop-up Covid testing centre.
Avin it large.
Avin it large.
Time you grew up
I have no time for the tories but this closing the border BS is only for flag waving little englanders
Far more virus spreading caused by people in uk travelling around uk, partying etc Removed
I have no time for the tories but this closing the border BS is only for flag waving little englanders
Far more virus spreading caused by people in uk travelling around uk, partying etc Removed
Nightclubs have closed ? Not according to the frequent reports that we keep getting.
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
Pubs are basically legalised drug dealers. Just keep them closed because towns and cities have been far more peaceful without them.
Edgy take - destroying a British cultural icon which has endured since the Anglo Saxon period.
Good luck!
Good luck!
You really are a miserable bleep, aren't you?
You obviously don't like pubs, so no-one else should be allowed to enjoy themselves...
You obviously don't like pubs, so no-one else should be allowed to enjoy themselves...
Effort of rapid tests should be focused on specific high risk areas where major outbreak could occur. Taking sewage samples directly discharged from large industrial sites and housing complexes could provide an indication of virus existence with rapid tests to follow to confirm infectious individuals who live and work in those areas.
The perfect recipe to drive a counter-culture underground movement. We're overdue one - far too much cap-doffing and forelock tugging these days. Bring it on.
Wibble.
So Boris "suggets" lateral flow tests could enable nightclubs and theatres to reopen, despite the testing pilot in Liverpool picking up 2/3rd of the most infectious cases & only 40% of all cases, far fewer than expected!
Sounds like another "world beater" is on the way!??
Sounds like another "world beater" is on the way!??
They need to reopen when the time is right, when a lot of people have had their 2nd jab.
Science isn't that difficult to understand, honest it isn't. Just ignore Gove when he tells you to ignore the experts.
Science isn't that difficult to understand, honest it isn't. Just ignore Gove when he tells you to ignore the experts.
vaccine passport on your phone?
Rapid Testing could have sorted out a lot of things, and eased the conditions levied upon us, however, there seems to have been little appetite in the press to pursue this story, bearing in mind it was in the news last September.
Also there has been little will from the Government to undertake it. I'd like to know how much money has been invested to improve rapid testing?
Also there has been little will from the Government to undertake it. I'd like to know how much money has been invested to improve rapid testing?
If the vaccines work then we really do not need all of these additional measures to protect us from something that is ever less dangerous!
If the vaccines don't work then we really do not need all of these freedom-limiting measures to protect us from something that was never that dangerous in the first place!
This is not Smallpox or Ebola!
Time for all sane people to start to re-live again!
If the vaccines don't work then we really do not need all of these freedom-limiting measures to protect us from something that was never that dangerous in the first place!
This is not Smallpox or Ebola!
Time for all sane people to start to re-live again!
Yeah Boris its a real necessity @ the moment ???
In today world the future is yesterday?
OK, open the night clubs and if you catch Covid you won't be able to complain if a few weeks later they are carrying you out in a box.
Is the risk really worth the reward? Your choice.
Is the risk really worth the reward? Your choice.
Nor will your mum and dad if you pass it on to them, or your work colleagues, customers, etc...
It is asking for another spike in cases.
Those under 50 are less vulnerable, but they are not invulnerable. If there is a massive surge in cases in people 20-50 then we will still see the hospital overwhelmed, and a rising death rate, it is just that the people dying will be younger.
It is asking for another spike in cases.
Those under 50 are less vulnerable, but they are not invulnerable. If there is a massive surge in cases in people 20-50 then we will still see the hospital overwhelmed, and a rising death rate, it is just that the people dying will be younger.
Proposing to use a test that is claimed to detect only two-thirds of the time (and possibly as low as two-fifths) in a use case where people are going to ignore social distancing, worsened by consumption of alcohol, doesn't sound like "the smart thing to do".
We'll see, in time, if such an approach leads to another spike in cases.
We'll see, in time, if such an approach leads to another spike in cases.
I am not quite sure why we cannot have a vaccine passport - would have thought that would be easier - for all things pubs, clubs, airlines etc. They can say if no passport you are not allowed in or to travel.
Because a vaccination may protect you from serious effects, but it doesn't stop you getting it and spreading it.
When you get your Covid jab, as I have had, you get an NHS card showing your name, the date of the jab, the make (Pfizer - Astra Z, etc.) and batch number. You get a another entry on the same card when you get the second jab. So why would you need a passport?
Yeah, great idea, how many vaccinated people are wanting to go to nightclubs? Oh yeah, none, because they are OLD!
Lets keep the young locked down for even longer to save them from a disease that wont harm them while the boomers go out raving eh?
Lets keep the young locked down for even longer to save them from a disease that wont harm them while the boomers go out raving eh?
A vaccine passport discriminates against people who have not had the vaccine, either due to age, on medical or religious grounds (Christian Scientists?). These are all 'protected characteristics'.
The equalities act makes a vaccination passport into a legal minefield!
The equalities act makes a vaccination passport into a legal minefield!
????ITS CORONA TIME ????
You could put some joy upon my face
Oh sunshine in an empty place
Take me to turn to and babe I'll make you stay
Oh I can ease you of your pain
feel you give me love again
Round and round we go, each time I hear you say
This is the rhythm of the night
the night
oh yeah
the rhythm of the night
This is the rhythm of my life
my life
oh yeah
the rhythm of my life
You could put some joy upon my face
Oh sunshine in an empty place
Take me to turn to and babe I'll make you stay
Oh I can ease you of your pain
feel you give me love again
Round and round we go, each time I hear you say
This is the rhythm of the night
the night
oh yeah
the rhythm of the night
This is the rhythm of my life
my life
oh yeah
the rhythm of my life
The whole point of nightlife is socialising with other people. And that’s the problem. We’re not talking a few old blokes in a pub discussing the dog racing - we’re talking hundreds and thousands in some cases. It’ll never go back to the way it was. People need to accept it I’m afraid.
Instead of Jab discrimination full on, they will do a pay for a test scenario, ie backdoor discrimination.
Those Sci Fi films were not so far fetched after all. Some film makers must have been related to Nostradamus.
Those Sci Fi films were not so far fetched after all. Some film makers must have been related to Nostradamus.
Nightclubs have closed ? Not according to the frequent reports that we keep getting.
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
I can think of nothing that I care less about than nightclubs opening.
Given how all of this covid stuff started, should we be opening wet markets anyway ?
The Tories are only interested in party donors, such as airlines. Hence them not closing our borders.