England crumble in second India Test
14/02/2021 | sport | cricket | 2,212
England are bowled out for 134 as India open up a lead of 249 to seize control of the second Test in Chennai.
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14/02/2021 11:05:24 147 9
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So hiding your bat behind your pad now constitutes playing a shot.

Why do they keep changing the rules? I can't keep up!
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14/02/2021 11:07:41 11 4
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No. But nor did much of what we did??
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14/02/2021 11:07:55 18 2
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Indian umpires rules - probably (oh and 3rd umpire blinkering or blindness)
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14/02/2021 11:45:17 21 2
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thats just it isnt it ? , its not playing a shot , that umpire knows that . Its cheating by ignoring the fact that no shot was played .
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14/02/2021 11:52:22 7 7
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The rule has NOT been changed back. Not playing a shot by hiding the bat behind the pads is NOT offering a shot.

If I were Root, I should pack my bags and leave immediately for home.
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14/02/2021 12:00:33 7 0
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Missued phrase really, think if you look at the law it states "making a genuine attempt to play the ball" ie trying to hit it. Takes away what a shot is. Clearly wasn't in this case
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14/02/2021 13:19:26 10 1
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They didn't. You've got an unfortunate partisan umpiring team in the match. Even the Indian commentators on C4 were mildly incensed by it.
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14/02/2021 13:26:41 1 14
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That's your interpretation.

The bat was coming down when ball was approaching, so it's shot pkayed obstructed by the pad
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14/02/2021 13:52:04 0 1
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It does make you wonder what is behind such more decision making.the pitch itself is another matter.im sure if this was county cricker there would be an inquiry.putting it politely it favours the home sides strenghts.
14/02/2021 15:44:14 0 0
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It’s called home bias and corruption.
14/02/2021 17:25:17 1 0
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It always worked for Mike Gatting, to mention one of several. I always thought it was unfair then.

However, let's remember that if Ben Foakes had been as good as we'd been saying he was, the matter wouldn't have arisen.
14/02/2021 22:18:46 0 0
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That's what happens when you have Indian umpires and the tourists have DARED to be leading the series! #cheats
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14/02/2021 11:06:00 3 2
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went as i expected sadly.3rd umpire top man.
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14/02/2021 11:06:06 15 11
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So it's ok for England to prepare pitches that swing round corners but a disgrace when Indian prepare them to spin round corners? Double standards much?

No, this is England's familiar failings being exposed. Not being able to produce world class spinners and not being able to apply themselves with the bat against scoreboard pressure.

Vaughan called in at tea yesterday. 1-1.
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14/02/2021 11:14:02 9 1
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Not sure you can prepare a pitch for swing. I think it's atmospheric conditions.
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14/02/2021 11:15:19 3 0
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Seaming pitches.

There's no such thing as a swinging pitch.
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14/02/2021 11:17:01 2 0
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hey , you cant do a pitch to swing round corners , thats the atmosphere !
14/02/2021 17:35:29 0 0
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Plenty of non English ex players commenting on pitch is not good enough, there are limits to home advantage. However, there were a few poor shots today cannot just blame pitch.
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14/02/2021 11:06:07 74 57
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Bent umpires.

Doctored pitches.

Shame
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14/02/2021 11:08:58 48 84
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Is that what you said when New Zealand were cheated out if the world cup final?

Didn't think so.
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14/02/2021 11:24:02 20 3
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Pitch seems fine for the Indian batsman...I heard one them scored 161...
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14/02/2021 11:24:12 2 8
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You have bent attitude.
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14/02/2021 11:56:10 3 4
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Agree that the umpiring was abysmal to put it kindly, but the pitch no. Both teams will be playing on the same pitch & if India put 250 on the board in their 2nd second innings, you would have to acknowledge that England’s score was 125 below par. The pitch is poor but not doctored. You are being biased as the Indian umpiring in this test.
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14/02/2021 12:06:32 2 0
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Wonder what the comment would be if we had won the toss.
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14/02/2021 12:31:15 1 0
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Oh! Good! Now Aussie have been dethroned on the cheating ladder.
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Ed
14/02/2021 12:31:43 2 0
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It's not to India's advantage to play on raging bunsens. It reduces the advantage they should get from having superior spinners. England's top 4 panicked. Pope and Foakes (and then Rohit and Pujara) were able to prosper through calm batting. Something to learn for the 4th test.
14/02/2021 16:45:49 2 0
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One thing you missed in your post -
Bent umpires, Doctored Pitches, English Batsmen who can't play spin, shame.
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14/02/2021 11:06:19 4 2
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I blame channel 4.
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14/02/2021 11:06:21 24 15
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England apparantly have to take 24 wickets every match

3 oh so poor / wrong decisions in this match - which would have given wickets

Mike Gatting anyone?
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14/02/2021 11:14:49 21 9
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This is worse than anything Shakoor Rana did, in this case it's in plain sight what is going on.
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14/02/2021 12:27:38 0 0
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I would love to see Joe Root start an argument with the umpire and then Kohli butts in and starts defending him saying he is just doing his job
14/02/2021 14:14:40 1 0
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Did we complain during the ashes about the poor umpiring decisions that went in our favour? From memory Burns and Stokes weren’t given out lbw when they should have twice each and Warner was given when he shouldn’t once.
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14/02/2021 11:06:41 4 7
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A dropped catch and a missed stumping.

Get rid of this wicket keeper.

Everyman and his dog reckon this Foakes bloke is the best wickie since Godfrey Evans,get him in !
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14/02/2021 11:10:09 3 1
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technically wasn't a stumping chance - it was a dropped catch Rohit edged it, thin and fast - almost 2% chance or less
then it was a stumpng chance after - watch closely, commentators missed it - I think they, too, are missing stuff
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14/02/2021 11:06:44 134 70
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This match was lost with the toss, outstanding performance for India by the third umpire. What a disgrace, no wonder Root is fuming.
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14/02/2021 11:09:51 38 40
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It still would not change the out come of the game England can play spin??????
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14/02/2021 11:12:23 17 3
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The toss less of a factor as India will show scoring 2x as many runs batting 3rd as England did batting 2nd. This has been a rank turner from from the first day.
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14/02/2021 11:56:02 5 4
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Like England in the first test, one the toss one the game right?
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14/02/2021 13:21:15 2 0
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Toss was a massive factor fir furst test, if you could understand a little more
14/02/2021 21:24:15 0 0
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Jonny, I take you and others said the same thing re toss winning, in the opening test. I say that was the more clear cut one. 2 days/190 overs bowled by India on a track playing as 'a flat road'. Then starts doing all sorts upon India's 1st & 2nd innings.
14/02/2021 22:44:30 0 0
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First test was also lost with the toss. In many ways it would have been more interesting if the toss had gone the other way in each match. I’m confident that India would have won the first, but less so about England winning the second.
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14/02/2021 11:07:08 7 10
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Who blaming today England fans it was the umpires yesterday? ????????????
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14/02/2021 11:09:51 6 1
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India will win by the mile but the third umpire is a disgrace.
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14/02/2021 11:11:12 1 0
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If the toss is the major factor in the result then something is wrong. Test matches need to go into the last day more often than not.
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14/02/2021 11:11:50 1 0
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Umpires again
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14/02/2021 11:14:26 2 0
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You must admit the third umpire has been a shambles and a test wicket shouldn't start turning after lunch on day 1 ?? doesn't make for exciting cricket but doesn't take away the fact India have batted and bowled beautifully! Can't wait to get you guys down at Lords ????
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14/02/2021 11:07:16 42 9
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There will be complaints about the pitch, but to me it’s a classic Indian turning strip. Yesterday Rohit kept dancing down to the pitch of the ball, which nullified the spin and meant he took the ball on the meat of the bat. I didn’t see the top 4, but Pope and Foakes used their feet well, looking comfortable against spin, whereas Stokes and Moeen stayed back, making every ball look dangerous.
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14/02/2021 13:13:52 12 0
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Maybe it’s a classic Indian turning pitch,I can’t see how it’s differed so much from the 1st test.
Still knowing England’s history it wasn’t a surprise to see them 60-5 when I woke up this morning.At least Foakes showed some skill and application in his batting.Some of the others need to do the same as Root can’t do it every game.
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14/02/2021 11:05:24 147 9
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So hiding your bat behind your pad now constitutes playing a shot.

Why do they keep changing the rules? I can't keep up!
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14/02/2021 11:07:41 11 4
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No. But nor did much of what we did??
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14/02/2021 11:07:52 193 21
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We can blame the pitch, we can blame poor third umpiring but the truth is India batted and bowled better. England looked out of its depth when batting. Good learning for England batsmen.

India probably want more of the same! England need some inspiration from somewhere.
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14/02/2021 11:10:27 75 6
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I thought the Indian bowling was excellent today -especially Axar, who it seems was only picked to accommodate Kuldeep -I thought Axar was the much greater threat. Also Kohli made some excellent bowling changes (if some terrible reviews)
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14/02/2021 11:25:04 10 1
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Even if all the decisions were made correctly, the fact is England would probably be behind by 200 runs instead of 250.
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14/02/2021 11:26:28 15 4
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Please don’t compare India’s second innings batting to our first. It’s not hard to play under no pressure. Any team in international cricket can score freely under no pressure. India got the best of the conditions for batting and fair play to them for doing well.
Looking forward to the next test already. A good series between 2 good teams.
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14/02/2021 11:34:23 11 1
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If you do not pick your best XI you deserve to get beaten, no excuses for not picking your top players
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14/02/2021 11:48:59 5 8
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No doubt but that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t call out cheating when they see it - India are dominant but do it fairly
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14/02/2021 12:19:41 13 1
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Foakes demonstrating today why he should always be first choice with the gloves. Best keeper batsman in the country, has been for a while.

And I like Leach's professional attitude, he always comes out with smile but meaning to do well, and seems to learn plenty as he goes along.
14/02/2021 14:59:26 2 5
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In defence of the English batsmen they're used to batting on a cricket pitch.
14/02/2021 17:08:39 0 0
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India are obviously a stronger team in home conditions. I disagree that England were out of their depth, this game was won with the toss. The conditions were difficult. No one to blame the pitch won.
14/02/2021 17:29:57 0 0
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India dont really need the help of the officials as they have played better than england but they have played a part.will Kohli get fined for dissent?very unlikely but what an arrogant display from an arrogant man.
14/02/2021 19:02:08 1 0
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Well said
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14/02/2021 11:05:24 147 9
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So hiding your bat behind your pad now constitutes playing a shot.

Why do they keep changing the rules? I can't keep up!
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14/02/2021 11:07:55 18 2
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Indian umpires rules - probably (oh and 3rd umpire blinkering or blindness)
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14/02/2021 11:08:02 8 16
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Shocking wicket, India should forfeit the match.
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14/02/2021 11:11:24 4 2
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England should declare their second innings -
Nothing to be gained batting again
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14/02/2021 11:11:55 4 2
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*cough* Lords 2018 *cough*
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14/02/2021 11:21:16 1 0
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Absolutely terrible...I mean it would be hard pressed for any batman to get past 161 on this wicket...
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14/02/2021 11:08:04 82 5
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What's Stuart Broad's contribution to the game? Is he injured? He's hardly bowled and he was a like for like replacement for Jimmy Anderson.
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14/02/2021 11:15:18 31 3
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I take it he’s ill or perhaps injured -very odd that he batted below Leach and Stone
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14/02/2021 12:32:41 5 0
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Delhi Belly.
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14/02/2021 12:36:32 9 0
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I get the rationale for the rotation but this could prove counter productive for reasons of losing rhythm and causing unrest. Taking Buttler for just one test made no sense, why not just give him the whole series off?!
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14/02/2021 12:47:49 2 2
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Expect they will use him like Jimmy- when the ball is about to reverse
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14/02/2021 13:21:38 6 0
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The ball's going through the top so the management think the best policy is spin. Unfortunately they only picked one spinner.

Broad should probably have been given more of a go and told to bowl straight and fast and the uneven nature of the pitch might have got them some quick wickets.
14/02/2021 14:26:06 3 0
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Looks like LaRusso from Cobra Kai. Ain’t got a mysterious crane ball up his sleeve though ??

Stokes getting smacked out the attack in only 2 overs is also sneaking in under the radar with all this talk about the pitch and umpiring.
14/02/2021 15:02:04 1 2
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Root's bowled hardly any pace at all, and when he has he's gone for the raw pace of Stone.

Broad has been giving Stone a lot of guidance and assistance, discussions ahead of and within his overs, to help make Stone be effective. It's nice to see, great teamwork and very unselfish.
14/02/2021 23:46:27 0 0
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Sorry Stuart was a major disappointment with ball and bat. Kohli must have been rolling around with laughter when we omitted Jimmy for this second test
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14/02/2021 11:08:40 4 1
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Root's field placing at the start of their 2nd were baffling.
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14/02/2021 11:08:41 90 31
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Farcical umpiring throughout this test match.

Credit to England for continuing with grace and humility. Footballers could learn a thing or two.
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14/02/2021 11:11:20 38 83
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What like running on the pitch in the first test. Sour grapes.
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14/02/2021 11:13:16 9 5
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The customary footballer whinge.
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14/02/2021 11:08:46 80 0
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Yes great bowling by Ashwin. Thought Folkes applied himself well in an unbeaten knock. Good contact areas with the ball. His colleagues should take note.
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14/02/2021 12:23:33 82 5
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Foakes a superb red ball cricketer. Should always be first choice wicket keeper.
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14/02/2021 11:08:55 10 9
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Rule number 1

Never under estimate India in cricket
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14/02/2021 11:10:40 14 6
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Rule number 2: never trust an Indian umpire in India
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14/02/2021 11:14:01 2 0
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some people forgot the series is 4 matches
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14/02/2021 11:08:56 17 16
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This game has gone from incompetence to blatant cheating by the third umpire. Very sad for the game.
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14/02/2021 11:10:19 5 4
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This is correct.

I guess India don’t like losing test matches at home, woe be tied any team that wins the first test.
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14/02/2021 11:12:13 5 2
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only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:06:07 74 57
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Bent umpires.

Doctored pitches.

Shame
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14/02/2021 11:08:58 48 84
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Is that what you said when New Zealand were cheated out if the world cup final?

Didn't think so.
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14/02/2021 11:17:07 20 5
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How were New Zealand cheated?
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14/02/2021 11:32:33 9 2
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Cheated i don't think so and besides that had nothing to do with home umpire performing with a strong bias
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14/02/2021 11:37:32 10 1
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Umpires didn't know, players didn't know, commentators didn't know, I didn't know, You didn't know.

It was only when Simon Taufel pointed it out that the armchair experts came out the woodwork.
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14/02/2021 11:52:19 6 1
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Weren’t they neutral umpires - why would they cheat?
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14/02/2021 11:55:59 9 1
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"Cheated"? By neutral umpires!
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14/02/2021 12:29:17 0 0
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????????
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14/02/2021 13:20:33 0 2
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Get over it
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14/02/2021 13:35:17 0 2
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You really are a muppet
14/02/2021 14:34:22 0 2
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Yawn. You really are a tedious. India have cheated in this game. Suck it up and live with the shame.
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14/02/2021 11:09:01 367 28
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Someone (Ian Botham i think) said years ago.

"Do away with the toss,give the touring team the choice every game,you will soon get pitches that don't play to the strengths of the home team"
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14/02/2021 11:11:34 136 9
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That's what happens in county cricket and it works really well.
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14/02/2021 11:12:42 8 48
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It’s test cricket get your head around it that’s why it’s so good!1
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GGS
14/02/2021 11:13:21 16 10
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England won every toss in last series over there. Lost every one of them.
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14/02/2021 11:26:39 4 15
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Yes do away with toss, both teams get half the calls to make via toss cards, visiting team +1 if number of games are odd. Visiting team decides before the game if they use up their card or concede to opposition, to ensure its not known in advance which games are cards used in.
what rubbish..english entitlement and Botham was the king of it. Removed
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14/02/2021 11:48:59 9 4
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I bet he was not saying that when Joe Root won the toss in the first test which helped us score five hundred in the first innings and gives us an advantage to go on and win the match
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14/02/2021 11:49:10 2 1
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Spot on I reckon
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14/02/2021 11:52:45 2 2
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But that will spoil the diversity of the game. It is like packaging all varieties of tea into superstore tea-bags, or all kinds of whiskey ... you get the drill. Bad idea.
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14/02/2021 12:02:25 6 0
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I agree with that thinking ... Neutral umpires and Touring team getting to chose (instead of toss) takes out home team advantage to a major extent
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14/02/2021 12:04:41 3 3
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I understand the comment, but disagree with it. IMHO batting first is akin to having 50 extra runs, an unfair advantage if a touring side took it. Plus the toss makes captains take a bold decision, thereby potentially making the game even more interesting.
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14/02/2021 12:25:29 8 4
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If this pitch was produced for a County Championship match the home county would have points deducted.

Totally unacceptable.
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14/02/2021 13:03:17 5 2
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There were no complaints when England won the first test. Not taking sides here but there will always be home advantage of pitches, that will never change. Players need to spend more time in different conditions to increase their skillset. Root adapted brilliantly in the first test and others should follow suit. And why remove Buttler whos one of the most experienced in these conditions?
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14/02/2021 13:12:45 3 3
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you might as well do away with touring. whats the point? each country and culture has unique qualities ... see this is the thing i dont see english cricketers moan about these things. listen to Foakes’ interview. no so on this forum or any other hys forum. atleast the bbc hys and commentary has a semblance of being neutral — barring agnews who is as abhorrent as bhogle.
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14/02/2021 13:21:36 5 1
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The toss has made no difference in this test - it did in the first. The 5th ball of the match went through the top and the ball has ragged from the off. The position would only be marginally different if England had batted first. We bowled poorly. I won’t blame the batsmen as you can’t play on that surface.
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14/02/2021 13:23:07 3 2
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This is India - they have to cope with green seamers in England that are alien to them - ludicrous suggestion foregoing the toss - it’s called home advantage which is the bedrock of test cricket history. You come across as a whinging loser.
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14/02/2021 13:23:40 2 1
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So you think England will do that? Get level playing pitches against Australia? England even requested that the Duke ball be played in all qualifying Test Championship matches, and even then we wouldn't be able to make it. I think India and surprisingly New Zealand are in driving seat. Also why have the final at Lords? Why are England playing so much Test matches....money, money, money!!!
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14/02/2021 13:27:43 4 1
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Sounds too intelligent for Botham.
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14/02/2021 13:38:05 1 2
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If he did it’s the first sensible thing he’s said
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14/02/2021 13:40:07 3 2
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I totally agree.... It is also the right and courteous thing to do, cricket being a gentleman's sport.
This game, for instance, has practically ended within 2 days.....
Not good for test cricket.
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ben
14/02/2021 13:53:46 0 1
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what kind of unpatriotic groundsperson would not set a ground to favour the home team, tests mean you adapt to different climates & conditions! screuu the umpires, grounds.....................................let's concentrate on the last two tests and prepare for t20s and one days! all this whinging/moaning/crying..............................bloddy ashamed for all you tsspts!
14/02/2021 14:39:21 1 0
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Could not agree more
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14/02/2021 15:17:00 0 2
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Get over it people. Just because England is playing poor cricket and India is winning we don’t have to change cricketing rules. Be sportive
14/02/2021 16:54:03 0 0
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Rohit Sharma is the reason this game looks so uneven, not the pitch, and it's still possible it could go to four or five days, with 19 wickets in hand, if someone plays as well as he did in the first innings. Chin up
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14/02/2021 11:09:23 166 16
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I believe it is incompetence and not bias, but this is a case for neutral umpires when the norm is returned.
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14/02/2021 11:12:04 32 5
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agree
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14/02/2021 11:14:12 31 15
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Three blatant howlers with the aide of replays isn't incompetence it is cheating - very, very sad for the game. And Kohli's behaviour is intimidation of the umpires - plain and simple. Very sad.
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14/02/2021 11:15:48 6 1
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Neutral umpires cancelled due to Covid.
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14/02/2021 11:21:13 11 25
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ha what nonsense..England's shots and the wiff-waff bowling were nothing to do with the umpires...stop papering over cracks
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14/02/2021 11:23:38 7 2
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It's incompetence. Both sides have got howlers, the difference being that India's howlers got overturned after DRS while England weren't so lucky.
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14/02/2021 11:29:52 24 0
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The state of the umpiring and pitch are a shame as India in this form dont need any help. In India's place I would be fuming as it is taking a lot away from a dominant performance.
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14/02/2021 11:32:49 4 9
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Umpiring is of very poor quality but England batted very badly , most of the time they were not able read ball properly that led to their downfall but here umpires no part to play .Assessment should be biased because it exposed batting their limitations
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14/02/2021 11:38:55 9 4
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Incompetence would be getting decisions wrong for both sides, not just one side. I think Virat was waiting for a no ball to be called 1st innings and I'm amazed he wasn't obliged with one. Sub-standard pitch and sub-standard umpiring will detract from India's brilliant batting, and tbh India shouldn't, probably wouldn't have, need a helping hand
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14/02/2021 11:40:47 15 4
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Of course it is - goes without saying - that’s why neutrals were brought in because of blatant bias/cheating by umpires on the Indian sub continent
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14/02/2021 11:47:29 16 1
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I disagree & I am an Indian supporter. Watching this today I thought that with DRS available & the 3rd umpire, the decision of giving Rohit not out for playing a shot was bias & not incompetence. It just did not make sense. It was clear as daylight that he wasn’t playing a shot. Can’t wait to have neutral umpires back.
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14/02/2021 11:55:39 6 2
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It is both and always has been. That's why neutral umpires were brought in. India shld be ashamed but they won't be. Their arrogance is such that this is the rightful way to play the game. They are destined to win every match.
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14/02/2021 11:58:06 10 0
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There has been nothing wrong with the on-field umpiring, but the third umpire should be sacked. This is an easy job that anyone who has knowledge of the cricket rules could do. It is almost impossible to get it wrong, yet he managed it twice.
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14/02/2021 12:01:28 4 3
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You're very naive if you believe it is just simple incompetence.
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14/02/2021 12:59:33 2 3
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I assume you are a football fan. Your team is getting walloped in all areas of the game and it's all down to the men who apply the rules.
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14/02/2021 11:07:08 7 10
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Who blaming today England fans it was the umpires yesterday? ????????????
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14/02/2021 11:09:51 6 1
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India will win by the mile but the third umpire is a disgrace.
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14/02/2021 11:06:44 134 70
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This match was lost with the toss, outstanding performance for India by the third umpire. What a disgrace, no wonder Root is fuming.
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It still would not change the out come of the game England can play spin??????
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14/02/2021 11:13:44 30 8
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Seems strange considering we scored 588 in the last test. I've no complaints with India setting the pitch up for Ashwin, I do have issues with India playing with 12 players.
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14/02/2021 11:50:59 17 9
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Irrelevant - we’re talking about blatant cheating - that’s why they introduced neutral umpires in the first place because of the shocking bias by Indian sub continent umpires
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14/02/2021 11:09:54 117 47
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It is quite literally the worst set of comments I have ever seen on the live bbc reporting app.

On the same pitch Rohit has hit 161, Rahane hit a convincing 67 and England have not even managed to get Pant out yet in this match. In India’s second innings they have already scored nearly half the runs England scored in their first innings.

Enough said.... embarrassing in many ways!!!
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14/02/2021 11:20:17 45 16
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I wouldn’t call it embarrassing -owing to the pandemic England have had very little preparation and have picked players who haven’t had a match for months. It’s great that the series has gone ahead, and it’s great that the toss has been shared one a piece -as batting first has been a distinct advantage.
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14/02/2021 13:33:56 3 4
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That’s fine, but it’s not limited comments on here. Social media is full of current and former pros decrying the wicket that has been produced and woeful standards of officiating. Presumably we can ignore them too...?
14/02/2021 23:49:33 0 0
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If you decide to remove a world class bowler with over 600 wickets who frightened India to death you kinda ask for big trouble. Would India leave Ashwin out for this 2nd test. Hmm...no they wouldn't
15/02/2021 03:41:12 0 0
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Talking about the pitch and umpiring just makes us whiners. On the same pitch Indians piled up and are piling runs.

Ditto regarding umpiring. Like had those decisions not been there England would have been in a lead position now. Poor umpiring calls happen everywhere. In each of the series I have watched live I can recall one odd bad decision every now and then.
15/02/2021 03:44:56 0 0
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The first rule of cricket is when england win it is because they are excellent throughout, the batted brilliant, bowled beautifully and fielded fantastically. When they lose, it's because the pitch wasn't good enough, the opposition cheated and the officials were corrupt or incompetent or both. Fairly certain India played on same pitch, clocking up almost three times as many runs. Bad, sad losers.
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14/02/2021 11:06:41 4 7
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A dropped catch and a missed stumping.

Get rid of this wicket keeper.

Everyman and his dog reckon this Foakes bloke is the best wickie since Godfrey Evans,get him in !
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14/02/2021 11:10:09 3 1
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technically wasn't a stumping chance - it was a dropped catch Rohit edged it, thin and fast - almost 2% chance or less
then it was a stumpng chance after - watch closely, commentators missed it - I think they, too, are missing stuff
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14/02/2021 11:08:56 17 16
bbc
This game has gone from incompetence to blatant cheating by the third umpire. Very sad for the game.
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:10:19 5 4
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This is correct.

I guess India don’t like losing test matches at home, woe be tied any team that wins the first test.
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14/02/2021 11:18:54 4 0
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I guess England can't play spin...
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14/02/2021 11:07:52 193 21
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We can blame the pitch, we can blame poor third umpiring but the truth is India batted and bowled better. England looked out of its depth when batting. Good learning for England batsmen.

India probably want more of the same! England need some inspiration from somewhere.
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14/02/2021 11:10:27 75 6
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I thought the Indian bowling was excellent today -especially Axar, who it seems was only picked to accommodate Kuldeep -I thought Axar was the much greater threat. Also Kohli made some excellent bowling changes (if some terrible reviews)
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14/02/2021 13:29:39 1 3
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Maybe Kohli's terrible reviews, were were based on seeing so many good reviews resulting in terrible decisions.
ET
14/02/2021 15:26:44 2 1
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Agree. India bowling was spot on. England batting wasn’t poor, almost all were undone by terrific deliveries. Indian catching was also good.
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14/02/2021 11:10:30 58 11
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Will not make any difference to the result but the standard of umpiring is unbelievable - the 3 of them clearly do not properly understand the game.
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14/02/2021 11:16:16 37 69
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Bit like the umpire of the new Zealand final. You win some you lose some.
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14/02/2021 11:35:31 11 0
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Can’t see that you can grumble about the on field umpires, but the 3rd umpire is indeed having a shocker, though in fairness from what I’ve seen of the stumping, although I think it was probably out, whether he had the evidence to give it is a different matter. The other 2 controversies were rank.
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14/02/2021 11:42:43 11 6
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On field umpiring is pretty good. Third umpire has erred couple of times, giving a whole lot of people to hide behind and unleash the moaning instincts in full flow.
14/02/2021 14:12:48 3 2
bbc
The same 3 umpires from the 1st test - When England won they were excellent umpires?
14/02/2021 15:25:21 0 0
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Remember the world cup win in 2019 that really wasn't a win - UMPIRING - Did not hear mush complaints then !!!
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14/02/2021 11:08:55 10 9
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Rule number 1

Never under estimate India in cricket
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:10:40 14 6
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Rule number 2: never trust an Indian umpire in India
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14/02/2021 11:10:58 4 5
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moeen is on the pitch...they think its all over..it is now
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14/02/2021 11:10:59 9 7
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Please nobody talk about the pitch. Been same for both teams from the first day and India probably score 2x batting 3rd than England managed batting 2nd. What’s the difference between this and a seaming green top on a cold day?
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14/02/2021 11:18:20 3 2
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But it isn’t is it? Win the toss get the best out of the pitch then it falls to pieces.
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14/02/2021 11:11:07 12 11
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Umpires got more more right than wrong. Yesterday's third umpire abhoration dominating these comments. But there's more right than what we see on these shores.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:14:42 0 2
bbc
brilliant comment, ive seen England get some awful awful decisions in these english shores but you take it and get on with it, works both ways.
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14/02/2021 11:07:08 7 10
bbc
Who blaming today England fans it was the umpires yesterday? ????????????
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14/02/2021 11:11:12 1 0
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If the toss is the major factor in the result then something is wrong. Test matches need to go into the last day more often than not.
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14/02/2021 11:08:41 90 31
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Farcical umpiring throughout this test match.

Credit to England for continuing with grace and humility. Footballers could learn a thing or two.
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14/02/2021 11:11:20 38 83
bbc
What like running on the pitch in the first test. Sour grapes.
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14/02/2021 12:34:05 9 1
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Whataboutery comment of the day .... well done
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14/02/2021 11:08:02 8 16
bbc
Shocking wicket, India should forfeit the match.
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:11:24 4 2
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England should declare their second innings -
Nothing to be gained batting again
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14/02/2021 11:19:19 0 0
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I agree - it would send a signal that this is unacceptable but they don't have the balls.
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GGS
14/02/2021 11:11:33 60 14
bbc
Poor bowling, batting and fielding. England didn't turn up this match. Inability to play spin is shocking.
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14/02/2021 11:17:48 74 1
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This all starts with domestic scheduling. County cricked squashed in at both ends of the season making spin bowling ineffective in the conditions so any spinner a county uses is taught to bowl defensively. This means the batsmen don't get to play an offensive spinner on a turning track so when they're exposed to it in a test match they're like rabbits caught in the headlights.
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14/02/2021 11:17:50 6 5
bbc
Yet they posted 578 in the first game on the same pitch.

This kind of innings happens sometimes in the subcontinent. Ashwin is a terrific spinner and on this minefield, he was always gonna be a task.
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14/02/2021 11:57:55 0 2
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Hang on. They managed in 1st test to get 500+. The whole game's been a shambles.
ET
14/02/2021 15:33:37 0 0
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Why is it shocking? When and where are you expecting them to learn? In the nets?
Many counties don’t have one decent spinner, let alone one of each.
The fact is our administrators have focus on one day cricket and shorter forms as they chase the money.
Enlightened administration might worry about the future of the game.
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14/02/2021 11:09:01 367 28
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Someone (Ian Botham i think) said years ago.

"Do away with the toss,give the touring team the choice every game,you will soon get pitches that don't play to the strengths of the home team"
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14/02/2021 11:11:34 136 9
bbc
That's what happens in county cricket and it works really well.
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14/02/2021 11:50:49 0 0
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It doesn't. The away team may elect to bowl first, without a coin toss. If they wish to bat first, then there is a toss. Even this was scrapped, for the 2020 county season.
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ken
14/02/2021 13:17:08 1 0
bbc
Well normally as Somerset set so many spinning pitches but were then found out against Essex and deducted points for the next season.
14/02/2021 17:27:33 0 0
bbc
It strikes me as a pain.

And it didn't stop Somerset preparing pitches for spinners because their were so good.
14/02/2021 19:11:09 0 0
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Doesnt make sense. Disgree

It will eventually lead to same pitches all over the world. India SHOULD prepare dust bowls. Aus and SA should prepare rock hard suraces, Eng and NZ should prepare grassy green tops to suit their bowlers. How else would you know who is the best skilled bowler/batsmen. Toss is immaterial. Kohli lost 9 straight tosses to root and still won 5 matches. Learn to adapt better
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14/02/2021 11:11:49 29 10
bbc
Yet again Michael Vaughn proved right- Just because he is not a rose tinted everything England does is right happy chappy doesn't mean he isn't often right.
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14/02/2021 11:07:08 7 10
bbc
Who blaming today England fans it was the umpires yesterday? ????????????
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:11:50 1 0
bbc
Umpires again
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14/02/2021 11:08:02 8 16
bbc
Shocking wicket, India should forfeit the match.
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14/02/2021 11:11:55 4 2
bbc
*cough* Lords 2018 *cough*
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14/02/2021 11:12:00 13 4
bbc
Should have picked Chris Woakes. Great player of spin and already has a century against India. He can bowl too, Mr Root.
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14/02/2021 11:14:03 1 0
bbc
Who would you have left out?
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14/02/2021 11:16:09 7 1
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Worst treated played in my life time by the England selectors. Bowling average under 30, batting average of 27. Been in 4 squads this year and still not been picked. The guy should be close to 100 test caps, think he only has 38.
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14/02/2021 11:16:33 2 3
bbc
Are you Woakes' agent, Bobby? Always see you on here banging on about how good Woakes is.
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14/02/2021 11:17:44 2 0
bbc
Root definitely has something against him, just be thankful he Wood didn't get in
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14/02/2021 12:35:18 1 1
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But he is only good when he is playing at Lords on a green seamer and the weather is overcast
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14/02/2021 11:09:23 166 16
bbc
I believe it is incompetence and not bias, but this is a case for neutral umpires when the norm is returned.
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14/02/2021 11:12:04 32 5
bbc
agree
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14/02/2021 11:57:39 8 6
bbc
Come on - England won a World Cup because of the incompetence of neutral umpires
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14/02/2021 11:08:56 17 16
bbc
This game has gone from incompetence to blatant cheating by the third umpire. Very sad for the game.
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14/02/2021 11:12:13 5 2
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:06:44 134 70
bbc
This match was lost with the toss, outstanding performance for India by the third umpire. What a disgrace, no wonder Root is fuming.
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14/02/2021 11:12:23 17 3
bbc
The toss less of a factor as India will show scoring 2x as many runs batting 3rd as England did batting 2nd. This has been a rank turner from from the first day.
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14/02/2021 11:09:01 367 28
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Someone (Ian Botham i think) said years ago.

"Do away with the toss,give the touring team the choice every game,you will soon get pitches that don't play to the strengths of the home team"
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14/02/2021 11:12:42 8 48
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It’s test cricket get your head around it that’s why it’s so good!1
racist Removed
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14/02/2021 11:26:58 12 11
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Is it good because it's a fair exciting contest or just because India are winning?
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14/02/2021 12:08:10 3 2
bbc
Tripe.
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14/02/2021 11:12:56 16 13
bbc
Big gulf in class between the 2 teams. Look at career stats, England have 1 world class batsman, 4 average and 2 poor batsman in their top 7. India have 1 world class batsman and 5 very good batsman in their top 6. And their is a similar gulf in class between the 2 sides spinners, although Leach has bowled well.
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:16:46 10 1
bbc
Right so how do you explain the first test?
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14/02/2021 11:29:34 3 0
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And how are you working out who is good/avg/poor, I wonder? ENG have 3 batsmen in their top 7 with just 37 caps between them, prior to this, whereas India have what? Gill, who is only in his 5th. Oh, and home conditions. Wouldn't have anything to do with it, would it!
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14/02/2021 11:43:34 1 0
bbc
The same India lineup who were all out for about 50 a few weeks ago?
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14/02/2021 12:10:42 1 0
bbc
Gulf in class? So how are India currently 1-0 down in the series?
14/02/2021 15:21:06 0 0
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Rohit, Pujara and Pant are world class as well and Shubnam Gill and Privthi Shaw might go on to be better than all of them.
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14/02/2021 11:08:41 90 31
bbc
Farcical umpiring throughout this test match.

Credit to England for continuing with grace and humility. Footballers could learn a thing or two.
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14/02/2021 11:13:16 9 5
bbc
The customary footballer whinge.
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14/02/2021 12:26:07 12 0
bbc
But a good point. Footballers mostly seem to play with an unsporting attitude. If an international cricketer spoke to an umpire the way footballers speak to referees it would be their last ever international game! Sportsmen should lead by example on the field.
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14/02/2021 11:09:01 367 28
bbc
Someone (Ian Botham i think) said years ago.

"Do away with the toss,give the touring team the choice every game,you will soon get pitches that don't play to the strengths of the home team"
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GGS
14/02/2021 11:13:21 16 10
bbc
England won every toss in last series over there. Lost every one of them.
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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tc
14/02/2021 11:15:23 5 1
bbc
No, i disagree, the umpires got some decisions badly wrong BUT nothing has impacted on englands shocking performance.
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14/02/2021 11:15:41 3 1
bbc
Yep, there was some terrible umpiring but it wouldn't have made a difference to the battering that's happening!
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14/02/2021 11:15:43 6 2
bbc
Didn't take you long to crawl out of your hole, did it?

Where were you for the 1st game when India were completely dominated?
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14/02/2021 11:16:01 6 1
bbc
Yawn vikram
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14/02/2021 11:16:33 2 0
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Or an Australian, or Indian, or Kiwi, or South African.

Come to think of it pretty much all sports fans do.
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14/02/2021 11:16:42 6 5
bbc
Really - are you happy winning like that? Honestly, do you think that's right? I am an Aussie and this is disgraceful on a same par as ball tampering. This isn't cricket!
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14/02/2021 11:21:57 5 1
bbc
You're still around then Vikram. Funnily, I don't remember seeing any comments from you during the first Test?
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14/02/2021 11:22:03 2 1
bbc
Its about time we had a standard of wickets to play on in world cricket. The pitches are not good enough in India. Struggled in first Test and nearly dust in 2 days. Dont buy argument same for both teams. This will be the death of the pace bowler. Although I love watching spin, watching pace bowling is an art that needs to be protected.
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14/02/2021 11:22:24 2 1
bbc
As if only Indian umpires or third umpires are bad. Not long ago it was happening in Aus as well. As for pitch then that remains same for both teams. I would not rule out England esp. counting on Ben stokes resilience and Root class. Eng will come strongly .. Mark my words
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14/02/2021 11:25:50 2 0
bbc
Would you be happy if it was the other way round, I doubt it.
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14/02/2021 11:09:51 38 40
bbc
It still would not change the out come of the game England can play spin??????
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14/02/2021 11:13:44 30 8
bbc
Seems strange considering we scored 588 in the last test. I've no complaints with India setting the pitch up for Ashwin, I do have issues with India playing with 12 players.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:13:52 0 0
bbc
Clearly England are on top in this game, they are in a great position at the moment.
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14/02/2021 11:08:55 10 9
bbc
Rule number 1

Never under estimate India in cricket
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14/02/2021 11:14:01 2 0
bbc
some people forgot the series is 4 matches
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14/02/2021 11:06:06 15 11
bbc
So it's ok for England to prepare pitches that swing round corners but a disgrace when Indian prepare them to spin round corners? Double standards much?

No, this is England's familiar failings being exposed. Not being able to produce world class spinners and not being able to apply themselves with the bat against scoreboard pressure.

Vaughan called in at tea yesterday. 1-1.
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14/02/2021 11:14:02 9 1
bbc
Not sure you can prepare a pitch for swing. I think it's atmospheric conditions.
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14/02/2021 11:12:00 13 4
bbc
Should have picked Chris Woakes. Great player of spin and already has a century against India. He can bowl too, Mr Root.
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14/02/2021 11:14:03 1 0
bbc
Who would you have left out?
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14/02/2021 11:25:05 2 1
bbc
Thanks for the question, Mr or Mrs Camel. Broad, Stone or Ali. I really have the hump now.
14/02/2021 21:35:42 0 1
bbc
Broad
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14/02/2021 11:09:23 166 16
bbc
I believe it is incompetence and not bias, but this is a case for neutral umpires when the norm is returned.
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14/02/2021 11:14:12 31 15
bbc
Three blatant howlers with the aide of replays isn't incompetence it is cheating - very, very sad for the game. And Kohli's behaviour is intimidation of the umpires - plain and simple. Very sad.
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Sr
14/02/2021 11:39:03 7 8
bbc
Oh Come on... Umpires sometimes make mistakes. In England 'he is only human' and every where else it is cheating
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14/02/2021 13:09:01 6 0
bbc
it's like India's playing in Pakistan in the 90s where India NEVER GOT THE RIGHT DECISIONS, and I speak as an India fan, and as someone of Indian Origin.
It's a bad look at least.
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14/02/2021 11:07:08 7 10
bbc
Who blaming today England fans it was the umpires yesterday? ????????????
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14/02/2021 11:14:26 2 0
bbc
You must admit the third umpire has been a shambles and a test wicket shouldn't start turning after lunch on day 1 ?? doesn't make for exciting cricket but doesn't take away the fact India have batted and bowled beautifully! Can't wait to get you guys down at Lords ????
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14/02/2021 11:19:19 2 0
bbc
Sod lords, I am thinking Trent bridge In overcast conditions!
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14/02/2021 11:21:14 0 0
bbc
Ha - reminds me of Tim Pained famous “can’t wait to get you to Brisbane” comment.
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14/02/2021 11:11:07 12 11
bbc
Umpires got more more right than wrong. Yesterday's third umpire abhoration dominating these comments. But there's more right than what we see on these shores.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:14:42 0 2
bbc
brilliant comment, ive seen England get some awful awful decisions in these english shores but you take it and get on with it, works both ways.
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14/02/2021 11:06:21 24 15
bbc
England apparantly have to take 24 wickets every match

3 oh so poor / wrong decisions in this match - which would have given wickets

Mike Gatting anyone?
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14/02/2021 11:14:49 21 9
bbc
This is worse than anything Shakoor Rana did, in this case it's in plain sight what is going on.
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14/02/2021 11:14:57 8 2
bbc
Well, I said I thought we could finish India's tail for less than 350... But I didn't anticipate a bad batting display on a worse pitch (& I'm not one for criticising pitches as a rule, but this is sub-standard).

Well done Foakes, who has shown why so many on here have been calling for his inclusion. But he's about ENG's only bright spot today. Can't see anything from here except an IND win!
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14/02/2021 11:16:24 3 0
bbc
Lets see how many India score batting 3rd to see how sub standard this wicket is.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:16:41 0 2
bbc
is it substandard when England bat on it ??? India dont seem to have an issue on it. Try and leave your bias out when commenting.
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14/02/2021 11:15:00 126 22
bbc
...I’m old enough to remember as to why neutral umpires were introduced...solely because of what we’ve witnessed today and yes particularly on the sub continent. Having said we have been totally outplayed. Lawrence was batting as if he was a rabbit in headlights ...way out of his depth..return to Chelmsford pal
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:17:40 28 4
bbc
Can’t disagree with any of this
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14/02/2021 11:37:35 10 1
bbc
A few Aussie umpires made the average subcontinent umpire seem like genuine saints, incapable of bias
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14/02/2021 11:47:17 7 8
bbc
Why blame sub continent suddenly? Yes, he made terrible decision either because of either inexperience in using the technology or incompetence but remember his decision was 100%.

England should take it on the chin and try and compete on 3 rd match. They are way better than moaning and loosing.
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14/02/2021 12:01:39 1 0
bbc
Agreed. Who comes in for Lawrence though with the rotation policy? Bairstow back next tests and while he's good at playing spin, I highly doubt he can bat at no.3 either.
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14/02/2021 13:02:14 6 1
bbc
Ha! Dickie claimed a few scalps in his time.
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14/02/2021 13:13:32 4 2
bbc
Yes, Subcontinent was bad, West Indian Umpires were worse, and Pakistani umpires with the exception of Aleem Dar and Asad Rauf, were HORRENDOUS!! But NOONE IS AS BAD AS THE AUSTRALIAN UMPIRES WITH AN ANTI-SUBCONTINENT BIAS!!
14/02/2021 18:15:37 0 1
bbc
Quite so Lilywhite. Umps a mixture of incompetence and/or bent. The guy who said the bat right behind the pad incident is "playing a shot" should never umpire a Test again. One of them wanted a review for a run out when the guy was in by a yard - if you can't see those, Specsavers! Both stumpings were actually out (great work by Foakes, who should stay), as the batsman had nowt behind crease.
14/02/2021 20:28:57 0 0
bbc
Agree about Lawro but you’ve got to feel a bit sorry for the lad being thrown in at no 3 in India when Burns keeps getting out after a few balls.
14/02/2021 20:34:07 0 1
bbc
The Indian player caught at short leg given not out because the 3rd umpire didn't run the incident far enough, soon ran it far enough for Sibley dismissal. Was why neutral umpires were introduced and continuing to make the case. Obviously Kohli knew he was in with a chance when he was bowled
15/02/2021 03:35:26 0 0
bbc
Poor umpiring calls happen everywhere. In each of the series I have watched live I can recall one odd bad decision every now and then.

Talking about the pitch and umpiring is so not cool. Like had those decisions not been there England would have been in a lead position now.
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14/02/2021 11:08:04 82 5
bbc
What's Stuart Broad's contribution to the game? Is he injured? He's hardly bowled and he was a like for like replacement for Jimmy Anderson.
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14/02/2021 11:15:18 31 3
bbc
I take it he’s ill or perhaps injured -very odd that he batted below Leach and Stone
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14/02/2021 11:43:08 15 3
bbc
Not when you see how Broad bats. Couldn't even stick around long enough to help Foakes get his 50. All he knows how to do is slog and get out.
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14/02/2021 13:05:47 4 0
bbc
He's been batting below Leach for a while so it's not that odd.
14/02/2021 14:31:16 4 0
bbc
Pretty sure they promoted Stone because ashwin was bowling and they thought a right hander might last longer. As others have said, leach has been above broad for a while now.
14/02/2021 16:07:00 0 0
bbc
not really when you consider he lasted 2 balls - at least leach stayed around for a while.
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14/02/2021 11:06:06 15 11
bbc
So it's ok for England to prepare pitches that swing round corners but a disgrace when Indian prepare them to spin round corners? Double standards much?

No, this is England's familiar failings being exposed. Not being able to produce world class spinners and not being able to apply themselves with the bat against scoreboard pressure.

Vaughan called in at tea yesterday. 1-1.
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14/02/2021 11:15:19 3 0
bbc
Seaming pitches.

There's no such thing as a swinging pitch.
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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tc
14/02/2021 11:15:23 5 1
bbc
No, i disagree, the umpires got some decisions badly wrong BUT nothing has impacted on englands shocking performance.
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14/02/2021 11:15:39 23 1
bbc
Foakes with no byes in the first innings and backs it up with a gritty 42*. Composed behind the stumps, gets himself in such better positions.

Has to be selected for every test. Nobody is near his standard
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14/02/2021 11:23:23 5 13
bbc
So good that he missed stumping Rohit.
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14/02/2021 13:23:01 0 0
bbc
The problem with Foakes isn't so much with him, but with the Top6's fragility as was exposed today. A reliable Top6 that consistently gets runs, rather than finding itself 100-6, allows for a specialist keeper. Whilst Buttler is not averaging 50 with the bat, he has done enough on enough occasions to make up for his inferior, but improving, glovework.
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
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only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:15:41 3 1
bbc
Yep, there was some terrible umpiring but it wouldn't have made a difference to the battering that's happening!
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:15:43 6 2
bbc
Didn't take you long to crawl out of your hole, did it?

Where were you for the 1st game when India were completely dominated?
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14/02/2021 11:15:44 42 16
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Painful viewing for England fans, this match only really has one conclusion. Hard enough when you are playing an India side on their home turf looking to fight back, even harder when you are playing against the umpires as well.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:17:34 46 12
bbc
are the Umpires the reason Englands batting was shocking ????
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14/02/2021 11:36:11 5 0
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Turf is stretching it a bit. Doesn't it have to have grass in it to be called turf?
14/02/2021 22:54:23 0 0
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True, the third umpire has to go. Indian players do not need any help from incompetent umpires. However, in this case it did not have any affect on the match yet (maybe two runs in the first), in the second innings we do not know how long Rohit will last . . . the no shot offered lbw is harder to give, how many England batsmen were given out for that (especially if they step well forward).
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14/02/2021 11:09:23 166 16
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I believe it is incompetence and not bias, but this is a case for neutral umpires when the norm is returned.
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14/02/2021 11:15:48 6 1
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Neutral umpires cancelled due to Covid.
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14/02/2021 11:32:59 21 0
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The umpiring in Sri Lanka was top notch - fair and correct most of the time and they were home umpires.
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
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only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:16:01 6 1
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Yawn vikram
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14/02/2021 11:12:00 13 4
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Should have picked Chris Woakes. Great player of spin and already has a century against India. He can bowl too, Mr Root.
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14/02/2021 11:16:09 7 1
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Worst treated played in my life time by the England selectors. Bowling average under 30, batting average of 27. Been in 4 squads this year and still not been picked. The guy should be close to 100 test caps, think he only has 38.
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14/02/2021 11:16:14 5 8
bbc
Okay here we go. 1050 comments with excuses and whinging ... your time starts now.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:17:17 2 1
bbc
the complaining is shocking.
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14/02/2021 11:26:50 0 0
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Yep, we've not been very good. If only we had someone who could cheat us a win.
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14/02/2021 11:10:30 58 11
bbc
Will not make any difference to the result but the standard of umpiring is unbelievable - the 3 of them clearly do not properly understand the game.
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14/02/2021 11:16:16 37 69
bbc
Bit like the umpire of the new Zealand final. You win some you lose some.
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14/02/2021 11:25:36 25 5
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That wasn’t referred to an incompetent third umpire. Nobody even questioned it. It was just a freak. Not even close to being the same thing. Try again.
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14/02/2021 11:48:27 7 5
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Get a life.
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14/02/2021 11:52:26 10 2
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You again ??
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14/02/2021 13:13:16 6 2
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Don't let he facts get in the way of a good moan
899
14/02/2021 13:32:50 5 2
bbc
What a banal, uniformed comment. Where is the impropriety by the umpire that you refer to?
14/02/2021 15:27:34 0 0
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Do you practice taking balls or is it just natural.
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14/02/2021 11:16:20 3 10
bbc
Every one of England's wickets was cheating from the umpires. And India wouldn't have got to 150 without umpiring assistance. I didn't watch the game but have drawn these conclusions from these comments.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:18:10 0 0
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ermm lol
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14/02/2021 11:26:03 0 0
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truth stinging is it about dodgy umpires?
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14/02/2021 11:14:57 8 2
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Well, I said I thought we could finish India's tail for less than 350... But I didn't anticipate a bad batting display on a worse pitch (& I'm not one for criticising pitches as a rule, but this is sub-standard).

Well done Foakes, who has shown why so many on here have been calling for his inclusion. But he's about ENG's only bright spot today. Can't see anything from here except an IND win!
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14/02/2021 11:16:24 3 0
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Lets see how many India score batting 3rd to see how sub standard this wicket is.
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14/02/2021 11:16:25 56 16
bbc
awful display by england today in every departmentb ...only matched by kohlis gob and the indian umpires
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14/02/2021 13:48:51 9 1
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A critical element is when the first wicket falls. In the last test England's openers put on 60+. The batsmen who followed faced a softer ball, slightly tireder bowlers and had a few runs on the board.

Today Burns missed a straight one in the first over and he couldn't blame the pitch for that.

Of course you can recover from 0-1 but it really doesn't help.
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14/02/2021 11:12:00 13 4
bbc
Should have picked Chris Woakes. Great player of spin and already has a century against India. He can bowl too, Mr Root.
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14/02/2021 11:16:33 2 3
bbc
Are you Woakes' agent, Bobby? Always see you on here banging on about how good Woakes is.
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14/02/2021 11:23:25 5 0
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No Mushtaq, although I can see why you think that. I just like justice in sport and I think he has had a rough ride from Root and Silverwood (not the selectors who always pick him for the squad) for years. He is a new ball bowler who averages 29 (despite never getting the new ball) and he bats like an all-rounder. His figures are way better than the others who replace him. Sorry if I am boring.
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14/02/2021 11:32:54 4 1
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In addition, if we take a minimum 30 wicket qualification, Woakes (in England) takes his wickets at 22 and averages 35 with the bat. Only Keith Miller (Australia) and Imran Khan (Pakistan) have similar figures - in the history of the game. Both of them, rightly, are deemed great players, and yet Woakes is the man always dropped, however well he performs. It is that unfairness that gets me.
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14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:16:33 2 0
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Or an Australian, or Indian, or Kiwi, or South African.

Come to think of it pretty much all sports fans do.
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14/02/2021 11:14:57 8 2
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Well, I said I thought we could finish India's tail for less than 350... But I didn't anticipate a bad batting display on a worse pitch (& I'm not one for criticising pitches as a rule, but this is sub-standard).

Well done Foakes, who has shown why so many on here have been calling for his inclusion. But he's about ENG's only bright spot today. Can't see anything from here except an IND win!
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tc
14/02/2021 11:16:41 0 2
bbc
is it substandard when England bat on it ??? India dont seem to have an issue on it. Try and leave your bias out when commenting.
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14/02/2021 11:48:26 3 1
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I don't post with bias; you seem to want to bash England every post. Aussie, are you? Because the likes of Mark Waugh, commenting from afar, are saying this pitch is NOT up to Test standard!
51
14/02/2021 11:13:21 19 15
bbc
only an england fan could complain about one or two decisions when their team is getting totally dominated
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14/02/2021 11:16:42 6 5
bbc
Really - are you happy winning like that? Honestly, do you think that's right? I am an Aussie and this is disgraceful on a same par as ball tampering. This isn't cricket!
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14/02/2021 11:12:56 16 13
bbc
Big gulf in class between the 2 teams. Look at career stats, England have 1 world class batsman, 4 average and 2 poor batsman in their top 7. India have 1 world class batsman and 5 very good batsman in their top 6. And their is a similar gulf in class between the 2 sides spinners, although Leach has bowled well.
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:16:46 10 1
bbc
Right so how do you explain the first test?
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14/02/2021 11:19:19 2 1
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Joe Root
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GEH
14/02/2021 12:09:35 1 1
bbc
First Test showed teams are closely matched but that England have the edge. With a doctored pitch and biased umpiring that advantage is undone big time
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14/02/2021 12:19:26 1 0
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A broken clock is right twice a day
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14/02/2021 13:00:14 0 0
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Just like Australia series. India got out for 36 runs in 2nd Inning still won the series. It does happen. We lost our first match to Australia in 2017 by 333 runs in Pune.
You know I got glimpse of quality of english batsmen when they skittled out for 170s in their 2nd inning in spite of having 260+ lead in kitty before the start of inning. It was turning marginally.
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14/02/2021 11:06:06 15 11
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So it's ok for England to prepare pitches that swing round corners but a disgrace when Indian prepare them to spin round corners? Double standards much?

No, this is England's familiar failings being exposed. Not being able to produce world class spinners and not being able to apply themselves with the bat against scoreboard pressure.

Vaughan called in at tea yesterday. 1-1.
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14/02/2021 11:17:01 2 0
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hey , you cant do a pitch to swing round corners , thats the atmosphere !
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14/02/2021 11:17:05 5 2
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Just to be clear, the reason we are going to lose this game is not the umpires (very poor) or the pitch (fine), it’s our batting (awful).

Word for Jack Leach. Excellent bowling and figures given the situation. Have first choice players back for next game. Just want to se us not fold second innings. Get 250 or something.
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14/02/2021 11:08:58 48 84
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Is that what you said when New Zealand were cheated out if the world cup final?

Didn't think so.
85
14/02/2021 11:17:07 20 5
bbc
How were New Zealand cheated?
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14/02/2021 11:21:01 16 19
bbc
Umpire awarded England overthrows incorrectly.
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14/02/2021 11:17:10 87 15
bbc
Pitch made of a mix of play sand, B&Q compost and some vacuum cleaner dust.

Great.
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14/02/2021 11:32:22 113 3
bbc
B&Q compost. That would explain the lack of grass, nothing grows in that stuff.
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14/02/2021 11:39:00 11 5
bbc
A pitch that both sides have to bat and bowl on, so if the England team are incapable of playing on the same surface as the other team that's the fault of the England team not the pitch. Or are India batting on a different pitch?
511
14/02/2021 12:17:36 5 1
bbc
The pitch reminds me of my allotment where i grow my potatoes
567
14/02/2021 12:27:23 6 0
bbc
It seems they left out the oxidized iron filings that went into the previous pitch!
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14/02/2021 12:34:00 1 0
bbc
A bit like my back "lawn".

Everything else grows but grass.
967
14/02/2021 13:47:43 0 0
bbc
What, that luxurious?!
14/02/2021 15:12:25 2 0
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Foakes seemed to enjoy batting on it. Couldn't get him out !
14/02/2021 18:25:22 0 0
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That must explain why the Indian batters are doing rather well on it.
14/02/2021 20:35:30 0 0
bbc
Spot on assessment by Michael Vaughan who called it a giant digestive biscuit
14/02/2021 22:08:52 0 0
bbc
you left out the dryer lint
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14/02/2021 11:17:17 1 2
bbc
Only day 2 ??
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14/02/2021 11:16:14 5 8
bbc
Okay here we go. 1050 comments with excuses and whinging ... your time starts now.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:17:17 2 1
bbc
the complaining is shocking.
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14/02/2021 11:15:44 42 16
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Painful viewing for England fans, this match only really has one conclusion. Hard enough when you are playing an India side on their home turf looking to fight back, even harder when you are playing against the umpires as well.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:17:34 46 12
bbc
are the Umpires the reason Englands batting was shocking ????
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14/02/2021 12:57:45 5 3
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Conversely was England's woeful batting the reason the umpiring was shocking and not of the standard required for international test matches ?
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14/02/2021 12:57:52 1 0
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No, but it’s salt in the wound and adds an undesirable angle
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14/02/2021 11:15:00 126 22
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...I’m old enough to remember as to why neutral umpires were introduced...solely because of what we’ve witnessed today and yes particularly on the sub continent. Having said we have been totally outplayed. Lawrence was batting as if he was a rabbit in headlights ...way out of his depth..return to Chelmsford pal
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:17:40 28 4
bbc
Can’t disagree with any of this
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14/02/2021 11:12:00 13 4
bbc
Should have picked Chris Woakes. Great player of spin and already has a century against India. He can bowl too, Mr Root.
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14/02/2021 11:17:44 2 0
bbc
Root definitely has something against him, just be thankful he Wood didn't get in
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GGS
14/02/2021 11:11:33 60 14
bbc
Poor bowling, batting and fielding. England didn't turn up this match. Inability to play spin is shocking.
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14/02/2021 11:17:48 74 1
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This all starts with domestic scheduling. County cricked squashed in at both ends of the season making spin bowling ineffective in the conditions so any spinner a county uses is taught to bowl defensively. This means the batsmen don't get to play an offensive spinner on a turning track so when they're exposed to it in a test match they're like rabbits caught in the headlights.
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14/02/2021 12:13:21 12 0
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I agree 100%. The ECB needs to examine its priorities. Somerset get nailed for preparing a result wicket, lose against Essex and still get points deduction. How are we to prepare our spin bowlers and batsmen to play in South Asia if we penalise counties for encouraging them ? County cricket played at front and back end of the season doesn't do this. We reap what we sow !!
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14/02/2021 13:12:17 5 0
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The scheduling part of the argument would work if our better players of spin play domestic cricket. Once a player shows ability to get into the international squad they barely play any domestic cricket.
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GGS
14/02/2021 11:11:33 60 14
bbc
Poor bowling, batting and fielding. England didn't turn up this match. Inability to play spin is shocking.
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14/02/2021 11:17:50 6 5
bbc
Yet they posted 578 in the first game on the same pitch.

This kind of innings happens sometimes in the subcontinent. Ashwin is a terrific spinner and on this minefield, he was always gonna be a task.
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14/02/2021 11:31:36 11 1
bbc
Not the same pitch they have moved over by 2 pitches the soil and clay is different as one of the Indian commentator said yesterday.
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14/02/2021 11:17:51 5 1
bbc
That was a bad innings.....still one up in the series.
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14/02/2021 11:18:07 9 1
bbc
Lacklustre batting from England, Stokes hasn't got going and a continuing problem with openers. Can't expect Root to get them out of the mire everytime.
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14/02/2021 11:16:20 3 10
bbc
Every one of England's wickets was cheating from the umpires. And India wouldn't have got to 150 without umpiring assistance. I didn't watch the game but have drawn these conclusions from these comments.
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tc
14/02/2021 11:18:10 0 0
bbc
ermm lol
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14/02/2021 11:10:59 9 7
bbc
Please nobody talk about the pitch. Been same for both teams from the first day and India probably score 2x batting 3rd than England managed batting 2nd. What’s the difference between this and a seaming green top on a cold day?
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14/02/2021 11:18:20 3 2
bbc
But it isn’t is it? Win the toss get the best out of the pitch then it falls to pieces.
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14/02/2021 11:21:25 1 1
bbc
How would you explain 51-1 batting 3rd compared to 86-6 batting second on the SAME wicket?
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14/02/2021 11:25:35 0 0
bbc
What if India score 300 in their second innings?
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14/02/2021 12:53:28 0 1
bbc
Let 3rd inning finish first. IF India gets skittled out for less than 175 in third inning. This pitch was bad. Your players don't have skill to bat or bowl on this kind of pitches barring few. Accept it and be happy.
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14/02/2021 11:18:25 7 1
bbc
England should have prepared for the game by practising their batting on Chennai beach. Nothing to be learned from the nets.
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14/02/2021 11:18:26 9 3
bbc
The very incompetent 3rd umpiring (which it has been) gives a great excuse to deflect from England being completely dominated in this game. No excuses for the bad umpiring - hasn’t affected the course of this match materially.
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Grb
14/02/2021 11:10:19 5 4
bbc
This is correct.

I guess India don’t like losing test matches at home, woe be tied any team that wins the first test.
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14/02/2021 11:18:54 4 0
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I guess England can't play spin...