Shell: Europe's biggest oil firm sets out carbon neutral plans
11/02/2021 | news | business | 78
Royal Dutch Shell sets out plan to be net zero by 2050, with big investments in hydrogen and biofuels.
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11/02/2021 13:12:37 15 2
bbc
If large oil companies such as Shell take their enormous resources and start moving towards green energy now and start movigly quickly towards green fuel and energy then both we and they will have a very good future to look forward to
2
11/02/2021 13:13:16 7 4
bbc
If there is one good thing thats come out of this dreadful pandemic its the wake up call oil companies have received with a glimpse into the future where oil does not make the world turn any more.
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11/02/2021 13:15:30 0 1
bbc
A very interesting watch, and it features Shell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7MzFfuNOtY
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11/02/2021 13:16:19 0 1
bbc
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MVP
11/02/2021 13:16:45 7 3
bbc
Great sentiment but why is it taking so long? by 2050 there will be no new petrol / diesel cars anyway
16
11/02/2021 14:33:33 9 4
bbc
I have a farm. Small and quite rurally remote. To charge an electric 4X4 I need three phase electricity. I don't have three phase, so I need to connect it up. This will cost £185,000 at last quote or 5 years income for the farm. I can't afford the capital or repayments unless you taxpayers pay for it. My neighbours - three of them in same position. Give us £500,000 and you can ban diesel.
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ljs
11/02/2021 13:17:02 4 12
bbc
"Shell wants to expand its renewables, biofuels, and hydrogen businesses as it comes under increasing pressure from investors and creditors."

ABOUT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oil and Gas are dying industries, time to get out !!!!!!!!!!!
17
11/02/2021 14:33:52 3 1
bbc
You had better tell NS, she's relying on oil revenues to fuel (excuse the pun) an Indy Scotland's economy.
47
11/02/2021 21:12:42 1 0
bbc
Would it were that easy!
7
11/02/2021 13:17:50 1 2
bbc
8
11/02/2021 13:22:09 4 4
bbc
Hydrocarbon Biofuel is not a solution its part of the problem, it will perpetuate the problem and create additional problems.
9
11/02/2021 13:26:12 6 6
bbc
Why bbc not covering the wonderful results from Astrazeneca ? Bias?
10
11/02/2021 13:31:39 4 8
bbc
With a multi-million pound salary I'd expect this guy to tell lots of porkies to keep it.
11
11/02/2021 13:48:26 4 5
bbc
Great news .... but stop sending the gas & oil into plastic production and creating another environmental problem
18
11/02/2021 14:36:25 9 1
bbc
I assume that you do not use plastic? If you do, then you play your part in the problem. What plastic parts of electronic devices would you replace? and what with? what are your solutions? Gone quiet.
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11/02/2021 14:01:55 16 1
bbc
There seems to be an enormous disconnect between the reality of global energy demand, sources and viability and what the “green” movement get all upset about. Walk in the shoes of those that live in energy poverty- most of globe and explain to them why they can’t have what you have. Or tell what you will give up?
13
11/02/2021 14:21:20 8 1
bbc
Whatever happens it will cost the consumer more
73
12/02/2021 10:01:44 2 0
bbc
I use an electric van sometimes. It is about seven years old. Battery takes as much charge as it did when new, and it is used every day (only occasionally by me). The owner says that withing two years it had more than paid for itself. No VED, electricity much cheaper than petrol/diesel, servicing incredibly cheap, cheap insurance, free parking in many paces etc. Much cheaper than ICE.
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11/02/2021 14:28:47 13 2
bbc
All the arbitrary target setting is empty rhetoric designed to suit the current appetite of dishonest and contradictory citizens who want happy polar bears, safe coastal communities and clean air while clamouring for new gadgets, convenience, disposable fashion and incontinent travel. A consumer society based on convenience, disposal and ease is incompatible with sustainable ecology.
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11/02/2021 14:48:22 16 0
bbc
Incontinent travel? Don't want to be on the same plane/train/bus or whatever with them.
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11/02/2021 21:08:17 1 1
bbc
We are literally driving ourselves out of existence.
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11/02/2021 14:32:11 19 2
bbc
Like it or not we'll still need hydrocarbons for quite a while yet as the alternatives are just not fully viable yet. Battery EVs consume large amounts of precious materials to make a battery which will only last a few years. Hydrogen may be the way forward but needs much more development and infrastructure.
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12/02/2021 09:53:19 2 0
bbc
Oil industry rubbish you spout! Battery life on BEVs is proving to be better than expected. The latest ones use less rare materials, recycling is being developed for them, and if yo include their energy storage phase they will all last 30 years +. Hydrogen is a total red herring. It is extremely expensive, highly dangerous and no 'greener' than petrol or diesel.
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MVP
11/02/2021 13:16:45 7 3
bbc
Great sentiment but why is it taking so long? by 2050 there will be no new petrol / diesel cars anyway
16
11/02/2021 14:33:33 9 4
bbc
I have a farm. Small and quite rurally remote. To charge an electric 4X4 I need three phase electricity. I don't have three phase, so I need to connect it up. This will cost £185,000 at last quote or 5 years income for the farm. I can't afford the capital or repayments unless you taxpayers pay for it. My neighbours - three of them in same position. Give us £500,000 and you can ban diesel.
19
11/02/2021 14:43:38 5 0
bbc
Why do you need three phase? Standard 7kw home chargers run off single phase.
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11/02/2021 16:07:44 3 0
bbc
Single phase is sufficient to charge 4x4, just install 7.4kW Wallbox Charging Station with 32A Socket. It will fully charge over night. The government Electric Vehicle Homecharge Scheme (EVHS) provides grant funding of up to 75% towards the cost.

You can even go totally off grid by installing10kW solar panels with 85kWh of battery storage for about £15k+ tax. (This is just an example)
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ljs
11/02/2021 13:17:02 4 12
bbc
"Shell wants to expand its renewables, biofuels, and hydrogen businesses as it comes under increasing pressure from investors and creditors."

ABOUT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oil and Gas are dying industries, time to get out !!!!!!!!!!!
17
11/02/2021 14:33:52 3 1
bbc
You had better tell NS, she's relying on oil revenues to fuel (excuse the pun) an Indy Scotland's economy.
11
11/02/2021 13:48:26 4 5
bbc
Great news .... but stop sending the gas & oil into plastic production and creating another environmental problem
18
11/02/2021 14:36:25 9 1
bbc
I assume that you do not use plastic? If you do, then you play your part in the problem. What plastic parts of electronic devices would you replace? and what with? what are your solutions? Gone quiet.
16
11/02/2021 14:33:33 9 4
bbc
I have a farm. Small and quite rurally remote. To charge an electric 4X4 I need three phase electricity. I don't have three phase, so I need to connect it up. This will cost £185,000 at last quote or 5 years income for the farm. I can't afford the capital or repayments unless you taxpayers pay for it. My neighbours - three of them in same position. Give us £500,000 and you can ban diesel.
19
11/02/2021 14:43:38 5 0
bbc
Why do you need three phase? Standard 7kw home chargers run off single phase.
74
12/02/2021 10:04:46 0 0
bbc
They are making up nonsense. The oil industry employs a lot of 'lobbyists'. Watch out for them and ignore them.
14
11/02/2021 14:28:47 13 2
bbc
All the arbitrary target setting is empty rhetoric designed to suit the current appetite of dishonest and contradictory citizens who want happy polar bears, safe coastal communities and clean air while clamouring for new gadgets, convenience, disposable fashion and incontinent travel. A consumer society based on convenience, disposal and ease is incompatible with sustainable ecology.
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11/02/2021 14:48:22 16 0
bbc
Incontinent travel? Don't want to be on the same plane/train/bus or whatever with them.
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11/02/2021 16:20:37 0 0
bbc
PMSL.
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11/02/2021 15:32:13 8 4
bbc
Even by 2050 around 40-50% of transport demand will require fossil fuel so it is very delusional to think demand for oil and gas will decline. It has peaked yes but customers need to demand more sustainable energy and YES be ready to pay for it in terms of (holiday flight) offsetting, recycling waste and plastic and sustainable consumption of clothes, groceries. It is the whole eco system!
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11/02/2021 15:33:25 11 2
bbc
Oh dear, not the news Nicola wanted to hear.

Oil was her get out jail card because she bet on a No Deal which never happened and now she's complaining about fish as she and her party look stupid.

Oh and let's wait for her old buddy Alex to finally break it all apart.
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11/02/2021 16:11:06 3 2
bbc
Would like to think I can keep my present diesel and hydrogen cars come along quickly ????
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11/02/2021 16:20:02 15 2
bbc
"Greenpeace said there were "glaring flaws" in Shell's net zero plans, including that it was relying on customers and society to change behaviour."

What else can they do ? Unless maybe you want to live in a dictatorship ?
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11/02/2021 14:48:22 16 0
bbc
Incontinent travel? Don't want to be on the same plane/train/bus or whatever with them.
25
11/02/2021 16:20:37 0 0
bbc
PMSL.
16
11/02/2021 14:33:33 9 4
bbc
I have a farm. Small and quite rurally remote. To charge an electric 4X4 I need three phase electricity. I don't have three phase, so I need to connect it up. This will cost £185,000 at last quote or 5 years income for the farm. I can't afford the capital or repayments unless you taxpayers pay for it. My neighbours - three of them in same position. Give us £500,000 and you can ban diesel.
26
11/02/2021 16:07:44 3 0
bbc
Single phase is sufficient to charge 4x4, just install 7.4kW Wallbox Charging Station with 32A Socket. It will fully charge over night. The government Electric Vehicle Homecharge Scheme (EVHS) provides grant funding of up to 75% towards the cost.

You can even go totally off grid by installing10kW solar panels with 85kWh of battery storage for about £15k+ tax. (This is just an example)
27
11/02/2021 16:28:00 8 3
bbc
it will all take time and there is no quick end. i appreciate there are some that believe that a family of four can jump up and down in their garden and be transported magically to their exotic holiday destination. powered by nothing else but bowls of brussel sprouts. but get real
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11/02/2021 16:40:50 2 1
bbc
Royal Dutch Shell have the vision to lead the transition from oil to renewables.
Like it or not Oil will be around for a while yet and Gas is very important as a transitional fuel source.
I suggest you watch the presentation for a fuller picture of the steps they are taking.

https://www.shell.com/investors/investor-presentations/2021-investor-presentations/strategy-day-2021.html
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11/02/2021 16:44:36 5 2
bbc
Oil production may have finally peaked - after all it's been predicted on and off since about 1970

But I wouldn't put too much money on it. Rich western countries have moved into renewables but there's a lot of rapidly growing developing countries both in terms of population and GDP - as things stand they'll want more oil and gas rather than jumping straight onto mostly renewables
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Rob
11/02/2021 19:40:51 2 0
bbc
Go ask them. They know that global warming hurts them more than us. It already is. You'll find they're more keen than we are to stop it.
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11/02/2021 16:47:48 5 2
bbc
It’s not entirely the oil companies fault. The people that buy there products, keeping them in business, also need to change their behaviour. That is not going to happen anytime soon. Alternatives are not fully fledged/available/viable. Further, the rhetoric isn’t particularly realistic as far as what is realistically achievable in terms of the science/engineering and associated target dates.
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11/02/2021 16:48:47 2 2
bbc
I thought we were moving away from fossil fuels?
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11/02/2021 16:55:43 12 4
bbc
Even if we all drove electric vehicles you still need oil to lubricate bearings and gearboxes. Even wind turbines have gearboxes so there will always be a need for oil.
38
11/02/2021 18:43:26 5 2
bbc
And how many 1000's of other everyday products are made from oil.
45
11/02/2021 21:04:16 4 1
bbc
Maybe. But oil as a lubricant is not the problem. Oil as a fuel is. And if that oil is from fossils it is not sustainable
50
11/02/2021 22:46:38 2 1
bbc
EVs don’t have gears. Just saying. Also you don’t burn that oil.
70
12/02/2021 09:55:51 1 0
bbc
Specialist oils can be made from products that don;t involve crude oil. There are many types of naturally occurring oil in the world, mostly from living plant sources, it isn't all the filthy polluting crude stuff.
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11/02/2021 17:35:07 5 7
bbc
Everyone can say whatever they want - but the FACT is that planet Earth's weather systems have warmed and cooled for many millions or even billions of years. Ban hydrocarbons if you wish but the reality is that it will make very little difference to climate change. It is not possible to change mother nature......................
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Rob
11/02/2021 19:38:42 6 1
bbc
So we take all this oil and coal out of the ground, burn it and there's now 50% more CO2 in the atmosphere and temperatures goes up.

Of course the temp has gone up in the past at times when there were thousands of active volcanoes billowing out carbon - but the temp gain was not as fast as now - and look mum, no volcanoes.

So if it's not the bleeding obvious cause, what would you say it is?
58
12/02/2021 00:54:39 1 1
bbc
I suggest you actually learn some science and facts.
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Sam
11/02/2021 17:49:51 1 1
bbc
The technology exists to extract hydrogen directly from oil wells leaving the carbon in the ground.

Big oil needs to invest in it instead of greenwashing traditional oil.
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11/02/2021 17:59:08 4 6
bbc
I completely agree with moving away from fossil fuels but lets not be over the top. Britain during the roman occupation had large vineyards, it was a lot hotter than now. The whole planet was a lot hotter thousands of years ago before a HUGE lump of rock hit our planet. For a few years you could walk on the Thames and they used to have parties on it
57
12/02/2021 00:52:51 3 1
bbc
What a load of billocks!
36
11/02/2021 18:02:31 16 3
bbc
Whilst the young try to blame their elders for the climate crisis they continue to buy disposal rubbish, have phones, pads, laptops and use social media. Its estimated that 10% of the worlds electricity is now used on .... Bitcoin mining uses the same amount of electricity as New Zealand - I don't see the youth demanding virtual coins are removed ... Or not replacing phones / clothes etc
49
11/02/2021 22:02:47 2 4
bbc
So you’re trying to blame the young for the climate crisis because they don’t want to live in the dark ages with you. Funny.
56
12/02/2021 00:52:01 1 1
bbc
Why blame others for the problem you created?
37
11/02/2021 18:23:42 1 3
bbc
How long before there are complaints about excessive water vapour at low levels due the hydrogen combustion?
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Sam
11/02/2021 19:05:09 1 0
bbc
I come from the West of Scotland where we measure thevtempersture by the depth of the water.
53
11/02/2021 23:06:40 1 0
bbc
Haven't the foggiest.
32
11/02/2021 16:55:43 12 4
bbc
Even if we all drove electric vehicles you still need oil to lubricate bearings and gearboxes. Even wind turbines have gearboxes so there will always be a need for oil.
38
11/02/2021 18:43:26 5 2
bbc
And how many 1000's of other everyday products are made from oil.
54
11/02/2021 23:09:43 1 0
bbc
The problem arises when you burn it though.
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12/02/2021 03:43:45 1 1
bbc
BH
Far more than many actually realise. From plastics to man made fibres and many other man made materials. The use of "oil" to make other materials is actually a far larger market than fuel for vehicles.
39
11/02/2021 19:03:46 5 1
bbc
Highly suspicious that the majors new green clothes are really just to hide that finding and producing new reserves on their own terms which exploit 3rd world economies is proving ever more difficult as these countries get wise and want a bigger cut.
37
11/02/2021 18:23:42 1 3
bbc
How long before there are complaints about excessive water vapour at low levels due the hydrogen combustion?
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Sam
11/02/2021 19:05:09 1 0
bbc
I come from the West of Scotland where we measure thevtempersture by the depth of the water.
33
11/02/2021 17:35:07 5 7
bbc
Everyone can say whatever they want - but the FACT is that planet Earth's weather systems have warmed and cooled for many millions or even billions of years. Ban hydrocarbons if you wish but the reality is that it will make very little difference to climate change. It is not possible to change mother nature......................
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Rob
11/02/2021 19:38:42 6 1
bbc
So we take all this oil and coal out of the ground, burn it and there's now 50% more CO2 in the atmosphere and temperatures goes up.

Of course the temp has gone up in the past at times when there were thousands of active volcanoes billowing out carbon - but the temp gain was not as fast as now - and look mum, no volcanoes.

So if it's not the bleeding obvious cause, what would you say it is?
44
11/02/2021 21:03:06 1 0
bbc
It's also the enormous increase in populations using fossil fuels
29
11/02/2021 16:44:36 5 2
bbc
Oil production may have finally peaked - after all it's been predicted on and off since about 1970

But I wouldn't put too much money on it. Rich western countries have moved into renewables but there's a lot of rapidly growing developing countries both in terms of population and GDP - as things stand they'll want more oil and gas rather than jumping straight onto mostly renewables
42
Rob
11/02/2021 19:40:51 2 0
bbc
Go ask them. They know that global warming hurts them more than us. It already is. You'll find they're more keen than we are to stop it.
43
11/02/2021 21:00:12 5 0
bbc
This may be ‘green-wash’ but at least it proves ‘big oil’ knows the tide has turned and it needs to find a new future.

I truly hope the UK sets an example to the world for a transition to a sustainable energy production.
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Rob
11/02/2021 19:38:42 6 1
bbc
So we take all this oil and coal out of the ground, burn it and there's now 50% more CO2 in the atmosphere and temperatures goes up.

Of course the temp has gone up in the past at times when there were thousands of active volcanoes billowing out carbon - but the temp gain was not as fast as now - and look mum, no volcanoes.

So if it's not the bleeding obvious cause, what would you say it is?
44
11/02/2021 21:03:06 1 0
bbc
It's also the enormous increase in populations using fossil fuels
63
12/02/2021 03:40:24 2 0
bbc
citm
Actually you have actually hit the nail squarely on the head. Over population that planet earth cannot support is the biggest threat to human existence. Add that to the extra carbon based fuels we now use equals a total disaster eventually. However like Corona Virus nature will protect itself by destroying those who try to destroy it. Mother nature will always be top dog no matter what we do.
32
11/02/2021 16:55:43 12 4
bbc
Even if we all drove electric vehicles you still need oil to lubricate bearings and gearboxes. Even wind turbines have gearboxes so there will always be a need for oil.
45
11/02/2021 21:04:16 4 1
bbc
Maybe. But oil as a lubricant is not the problem. Oil as a fuel is. And if that oil is from fossils it is not sustainable
14
11/02/2021 14:28:47 13 2
bbc
All the arbitrary target setting is empty rhetoric designed to suit the current appetite of dishonest and contradictory citizens who want happy polar bears, safe coastal communities and clean air while clamouring for new gadgets, convenience, disposable fashion and incontinent travel. A consumer society based on convenience, disposal and ease is incompatible with sustainable ecology.
46
11/02/2021 21:08:17 1 1
bbc
We are literally driving ourselves out of existence.
6
ljs
11/02/2021 13:17:02 4 12
bbc
"Shell wants to expand its renewables, biofuels, and hydrogen businesses as it comes under increasing pressure from investors and creditors."

ABOUT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oil and Gas are dying industries, time to get out !!!!!!!!!!!
47
11/02/2021 21:12:42 1 0
bbc
Would it were that easy!
48
11/02/2021 21:21:30 6 1
bbc
Shell is just supplying what customers want to buy. The customers should change their needs. Then Shell will need to change what they supply if they want to continue in an industry.
Green Peace should blame customers for buying the wrong products.
52
11/02/2021 22:52:28 1 5
bbc
Green peace members are socialist far left,, u know what. And believe in Father Christmas
62
12/02/2021 03:29:15 1 0
bbc
In the UK by 2030 you will not be able to buy and register a new fossil fueled car. All oil companies have no choice to adapt or go out of business. So I ask what is new? Just like the manufacturers of coal powered steam trains it was either change and adapt to the times or go under. However the majority of oil companies business is nothing to do with fuels but production of manmade materials
36
11/02/2021 18:02:31 16 3
bbc
Whilst the young try to blame their elders for the climate crisis they continue to buy disposal rubbish, have phones, pads, laptops and use social media. Its estimated that 10% of the worlds electricity is now used on .... Bitcoin mining uses the same amount of electricity as New Zealand - I don't see the youth demanding virtual coins are removed ... Or not replacing phones / clothes etc
49
11/02/2021 22:02:47 2 4
bbc
So you’re trying to blame the young for the climate crisis because they don’t want to live in the dark ages with you. Funny.
32
11/02/2021 16:55:43 12 4
bbc
Even if we all drove electric vehicles you still need oil to lubricate bearings and gearboxes. Even wind turbines have gearboxes so there will always be a need for oil.
50
11/02/2021 22:46:38 2 1
bbc
EVs don’t have gears. Just saying. Also you don’t burn that oil.
65
12/02/2021 03:46:16 1 1
bbc
MH_G
Honestly think you need to go back the the basic principles of bearings and friction even EV"s have this problem!
71
12/02/2021 09:57:07 1 0
bbc
It is a post by an oil industry 'lobbyist'. It is just supposed to spread misinformation, facts don't come into it. The oil industry is running scared.
51
11/02/2021 22:49:41 4 2
bbc
Carbon neutral, what a big con
48
11/02/2021 21:21:30 6 1
bbc
Shell is just supplying what customers want to buy. The customers should change their needs. Then Shell will need to change what they supply if they want to continue in an industry.
Green Peace should blame customers for buying the wrong products.
52
11/02/2021 22:52:28 1 5
bbc
Green peace members are socialist far left,, u know what. And believe in Father Christmas
37
11/02/2021 18:23:42 1 3
bbc
How long before there are complaints about excessive water vapour at low levels due the hydrogen combustion?
53
11/02/2021 23:06:40 1 0
bbc
Haven't the foggiest.
38
11/02/2021 18:43:26 5 2
bbc
And how many 1000's of other everyday products are made from oil.
54
11/02/2021 23:09:43 1 0
bbc
The problem arises when you burn it though.
55
12/02/2021 00:05:03 2 3
bbc
Good to see Shell investing in biofuels, ie the fuel produced by mass deforestation. What a nice organisation.
36
11/02/2021 18:02:31 16 3
bbc
Whilst the young try to blame their elders for the climate crisis they continue to buy disposal rubbish, have phones, pads, laptops and use social media. Its estimated that 10% of the worlds electricity is now used on .... Bitcoin mining uses the same amount of electricity as New Zealand - I don't see the youth demanding virtual coins are removed ... Or not replacing phones / clothes etc
56
12/02/2021 00:52:01 1 1
bbc
Why blame others for the problem you created?
35
11/02/2021 17:59:08 4 6
bbc
I completely agree with moving away from fossil fuels but lets not be over the top. Britain during the roman occupation had large vineyards, it was a lot hotter than now. The whole planet was a lot hotter thousands of years ago before a HUGE lump of rock hit our planet. For a few years you could walk on the Thames and they used to have parties on it
57
12/02/2021 00:52:51 3 1
bbc
What a load of billocks!
33
11/02/2021 17:35:07 5 7
bbc
Everyone can say whatever they want - but the FACT is that planet Earth's weather systems have warmed and cooled for many millions or even billions of years. Ban hydrocarbons if you wish but the reality is that it will make very little difference to climate change. It is not possible to change mother nature......................
58
12/02/2021 00:54:39 1 1
bbc
I suggest you actually learn some science and facts.
59
12/02/2021 03:02:00 2 3
bbc
This will make little difference because the oil companies of the western world only produce 4 percent of global oil supply. The rest is produced by national oil companies like Saudi Aramco. We are deluded that green energy can fill the gap in our middle class European world
61
12/02/2021 03:22:16 3 0
bbc
Try telling that to car manufacturers in the UK and the EU when fossil fueled vehicles will be banned from production or import by 2030 (only NINE years away).
60
12/02/2021 03:19:52 4 1
bbc
Hydrogen 10, Batteries NIL. Read the article on producing Hydrogen off shore using wind generators. The day of the battery is fast coming to a close far too inconvenient and weighty for most applications. However with the onward positive development of the hydrogen cell to produce electric power it will be these that supply power for future cars which will obviously become the norm, not batteries
59
12/02/2021 03:02:00 2 3
bbc
This will make little difference because the oil companies of the western world only produce 4 percent of global oil supply. The rest is produced by national oil companies like Saudi Aramco. We are deluded that green energy can fill the gap in our middle class European world
61
12/02/2021 03:22:16 3 0
bbc
Try telling that to car manufacturers in the UK and the EU when fossil fueled vehicles will be banned from production or import by 2030 (only NINE years away).
48
11/02/2021 21:21:30 6 1
bbc
Shell is just supplying what customers want to buy. The customers should change their needs. Then Shell will need to change what they supply if they want to continue in an industry.
Green Peace should blame customers for buying the wrong products.
62
12/02/2021 03:29:15 1 0
bbc
In the UK by 2030 you will not be able to buy and register a new fossil fueled car. All oil companies have no choice to adapt or go out of business. So I ask what is new? Just like the manufacturers of coal powered steam trains it was either change and adapt to the times or go under. However the majority of oil companies business is nothing to do with fuels but production of manmade materials
44
11/02/2021 21:03:06 1 0
bbc
It's also the enormous increase in populations using fossil fuels
63
12/02/2021 03:40:24 2 0
bbc
citm
Actually you have actually hit the nail squarely on the head. Over population that planet earth cannot support is the biggest threat to human existence. Add that to the extra carbon based fuels we now use equals a total disaster eventually. However like Corona Virus nature will protect itself by destroying those who try to destroy it. Mother nature will always be top dog no matter what we do.
38
11/02/2021 18:43:26 5 2
bbc
And how many 1000's of other everyday products are made from oil.
64
12/02/2021 03:43:45 1 1
bbc
BH
Far more than many actually realise. From plastics to man made fibres and many other man made materials. The use of "oil" to make other materials is actually a far larger market than fuel for vehicles.
50
11/02/2021 22:46:38 2 1
bbc
EVs don’t have gears. Just saying. Also you don’t burn that oil.
65
12/02/2021 03:46:16 1 1
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MH_G
Honestly think you need to go back the the basic principles of bearings and friction even EV"s have this problem!
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12/02/2021 09:59:16 1 0
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All BEVs are automatic. They do not have gearboxes. Yes, there are some parts that need lubricating, but there is no gearbox or clutch. So BEVs don't burn oil as fuel, or use it in bulk for lubrication.
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12/02/2021 05:34:55 3 2
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Green peace are a business based on selling a concept. For their business to work they need companies to attack and portray as the “devil” hence the constant attacks on Shell as the most recognisable major. Have a look at the energy and materials balances for building wind turbines and charging points ??
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12/02/2021 08:25:56 3 0
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UN agenda 21, 2030 which the UK has signed up to, will mean private cars will disappear, except for the rich. Once ICE car numbers drop it won't be profitable to run many refineries, it will become a niche market and prices will sky rocket for petrol and many other products such as plastic.
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12/02/2021 09:29:52 0 0
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Shell have gone further than most to map the CO2 budget on fuels and their end use and have made a commitment over the lifecycle of a fuel, not just its production. To achieve net zero, they will focus on nat.gas to hydrogen and commit to capture the CO2 in carbon capture projects.
The UK north sea has the capacity to store all our CO2 emissions for decades to come. It can be done.
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11/02/2021 14:32:11 19 2
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Like it or not we'll still need hydrocarbons for quite a while yet as the alternatives are just not fully viable yet. Battery EVs consume large amounts of precious materials to make a battery which will only last a few years. Hydrogen may be the way forward but needs much more development and infrastructure.
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12/02/2021 09:53:19 2 0
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Oil industry rubbish you spout! Battery life on BEVs is proving to be better than expected. The latest ones use less rare materials, recycling is being developed for them, and if yo include their energy storage phase they will all last 30 years +. Hydrogen is a total red herring. It is extremely expensive, highly dangerous and no 'greener' than petrol or diesel.
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11/02/2021 16:55:43 12 4
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Even if we all drove electric vehicles you still need oil to lubricate bearings and gearboxes. Even wind turbines have gearboxes so there will always be a need for oil.
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12/02/2021 09:55:51 1 0
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Specialist oils can be made from products that don;t involve crude oil. There are many types of naturally occurring oil in the world, mostly from living plant sources, it isn't all the filthy polluting crude stuff.
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11/02/2021 22:46:38 2 1
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EVs don’t have gears. Just saying. Also you don’t burn that oil.
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12/02/2021 09:57:07 1 0
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It is a post by an oil industry 'lobbyist'. It is just supposed to spread misinformation, facts don't come into it. The oil industry is running scared.
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12/02/2021 03:46:16 1 1
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MH_G
Honestly think you need to go back the the basic principles of bearings and friction even EV"s have this problem!
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12/02/2021 09:59:16 1 0
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All BEVs are automatic. They do not have gearboxes. Yes, there are some parts that need lubricating, but there is no gearbox or clutch. So BEVs don't burn oil as fuel, or use it in bulk for lubrication.
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11/02/2021 14:21:20 8 1
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Whatever happens it will cost the consumer more
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12/02/2021 10:01:44 2 0
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I use an electric van sometimes. It is about seven years old. Battery takes as much charge as it did when new, and it is used every day (only occasionally by me). The owner says that withing two years it had more than paid for itself. No VED, electricity much cheaper than petrol/diesel, servicing incredibly cheap, cheap insurance, free parking in many paces etc. Much cheaper than ICE.
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11/02/2021 14:43:38 5 0
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Why do you need three phase? Standard 7kw home chargers run off single phase.
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12/02/2021 10:04:46 0 0
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They are making up nonsense. The oil industry employs a lot of 'lobbyists'. Watch out for them and ignore them.
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12/02/2021 10:42:48 0 0
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Once these fads pass Shell will remove all filling points from their forecourts, just as they have with LPG; I now have to travel a round trip of 52 miles to fill up, which somewhat negates the benefits of having an LPG vehicle.
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12/02/2021 10:51:46 0 0
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If you're a "believer", then you have to accept that it's God's will for us to exploit the natural resources He has given us. The problem is that, because humans are breeding too fast, we are using these resources faster than He intended.

Instead of trying to save humanity, we should let natural selection take its course.
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12/02/2021 11:40:33 1 0
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Public transport still runs in oil. oil is needed for plastics etc
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12/02/2021 12:16:52 1 0
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It's great that we are heading to a lower carbon economy. Remember this though.... the move is hugely subsidised to persuade people to convert. As soon as society is in a position where it won't turn back those subsidies will end and costs will go up. It's not a free lunch.