Coronavirus: Pfizer jab 'stopping 91% of cases in first six months'
01/04/2021 | news | health | 1,631
And another study shows even 96-year-olds are producing an impressive immune response.
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01/04/2021 14:22:31 10 2
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Back of the net
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01/04/2021 14:29:32 2 3
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Four words. Try 'on the ed' or 'bozzer my son'.
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01/04/2021 14:23:08 13 28
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Great news. That's another reason to end lockdown fully now.
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01/04/2021 14:27:26 8 2
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Agree, data not dates....also good data coming from Israel and USA that has reopened....driven by data not dates....
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01/04/2021 14:51:38 2 2
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No it isn't, we are nowhere near having the protection provided by BOTH doses.

It will still be months before we are.

That doesn't mean we have to be completely locked down but it certainly doesn't justify abandoning all measures to minimise transmission opportunities.
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01/04/2021 15:05:38 0 2
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Please, I know everyone is fed up & some are suffering horrible hardship, but unless we can
1. get more of the country & the world fully vaccinated
2. be very careful about contacts once lockdown eases

then there is a risk that a mutation occurs that evades the vaccines. If that happens we are back at square one.
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01/04/2021 14:23:35 13 24
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All about the money for Pfizer.

Would be good to see some more humility and care from them.
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01/04/2021 14:35:57 10 10
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Gratitude would also not go amiss.

I get my second shot next week

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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01/04/2021 15:00:04 2 1
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They're less expensive than Moderna. The only big pharma company to agree to sell at cost is Astra-Zeneca & one assumes that was a condition pushed by Oxford Uni. team. More philanthropy & less capitalism would be nice.
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01/04/2021 14:26:33 46 2
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We are going to get lots of results, which will gel into a really clear picture in a few years.

Meanwhile I think rather than focussing on the exact numbers being quoted lets try and all agree that they all seem to be doing what we would want them to.

Just not absolutely certain exactly how much.
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01/04/2021 15:25:28 2 22
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I disagree.
01/04/2021 19:32:50 2 0
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And any side serious side effects are a tiny, tiny, miniscule fraction of one percent of doses given, and quite possibly not due to the vaccine at all.
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01/04/2021 14:26:42 41 22
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Great job Pfizer, but sadly I sneezed 20 seconds after I got my Pfizer jab, so I told Macron and he's now telling everyone the jab will instantly kill you if you take it.
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01/04/2021 14:39:34 25 9
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My arm ached for the whole day after, but my mental health has improved as I no longer worry about standing next to the other people in my household.
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01/04/2021 14:57:09 2 2
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Macron's made no comment on Pfizer vaccine. This is a global effort against the virus. Until we get as much of the world vaccinated as we can to cut mutation rate none of us are safe. If a mutation occurs that evades all vaccines we are back at square one & Petty nationalism won't help unless we cut off all contact with the rest of the world, no-one/nothing in or out. Your jab came from Europe.
01/04/2021 20:36:54 1 0
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A lot i feel is brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high.

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
01/04/2021 22:10:19 1 0
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More anti EU drivel.......
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01/04/2021 14:27:13 2 1
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I hope I am understanding this wrong.

"Against the variant identified Brazil, however, they were 14 times less effective."

So the efficacy against Brazil variant is (91/14) 6%. I know I have this wrong but what are they saying then if it's not that.
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01/04/2021 14:50:21 3 0
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I wasn't sure about that either. The only thing I could think was that they meant 14% less effective. Certainly people in Manaus who had caughtoriginal virus were later infected by P1 (Brazil) variant so no herd immunity. I also saw a remark by a Brazilian virologist that they have another newer variant (P2). Until we get get most of the world vaccinated & cut mutations we are not safe.
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:30:23 31 17
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Boooring. And off topic.
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01/04/2021 14:33:19 4 0
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If only they hadn't paused three weeks ago.
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01/04/2021 14:34:20 6 6
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False. You got the 52% figure from those tested showing antibodies. That does not mean 52% have had vaccines (is still mainly over 50s!).

Why do you feel the need to lie so desperately?
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01/04/2021 14:36:33 6 7
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and will we expect the bbc to enthuse over the success of the uk programme in comparison to their beloved EU-pigs might fly
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01/04/2021 14:44:09 6 8
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EU exported 14 million doses of vaccine. UK exported none. US Govt banned all exports of vaccine. How do you think the rest of the world feels about that?
Europe hit by a wave of Kent B.117 variant so infection came from UK who didn't have sufficient control to prevent spread and had to have a draconian lockdown.
PEOPLE DIE OF THIS all you do is crow. Until the world is vaccinated no-one's safe.
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01/04/2021 14:51:23 5 3
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You are aware that we could have still been in the EU, but not in the Procurement Programme. It was purely optional. In fact we were still under EU rules when the UK chose not to be part of the programme.

Then again, don't let facts get in the way of your anti-EU slant.
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01/04/2021 14:27:25 8 25
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why is the retail and leisure industry still at astandstill.towns and cities full of boarded up pubs and restraunts...pathetic from this out of touch govt and the inept folk that makes it up
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01/04/2021 14:36:36 15 0
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1. Less than 10% of the population has had 2 doses.
2. The virus only mutates inside the body.
3. When unprotected people mix they catch/spread the virus.
4. You then get more mutations. Some of them will be much more severe than the original. (The Brazil variant is infecting people who had the original virus, which shows how much it has changed.)

5. I'm sorry
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01/04/2021 14:52:35 2 0
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Have you heard about the deadly virus and the belated government attempts to control it?
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01/04/2021 14:23:08 13 28
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Great news. That's another reason to end lockdown fully now.
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01/04/2021 14:27:26 8 2
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Agree, data not dates....also good data coming from Israel and USA that has reopened....driven by data not dates....
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Bob
01/04/2021 14:34:23 3 3
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OK then, now look at Chile's data. Rising cases, rising deaths and they recently overtook us for doses administered per capita.

Also I don't know about Israel, but the US had not fully reopened. Pubs etc still closed in many states, likewise some even still have stay at home advisories.
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01/04/2021 14:27:40 119 9
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Excellent news. Vaccination is the success story we hoped it would be.
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01/04/2021 14:59:22 46 190
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It's only a success if it allows us to open up our society and so far the government are tip toeing around.

Pubs, shops and borders open NOW.
01/04/2021 20:32:46 1 0
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thaank god johnson didn't plan the vaccine and didn't pass giving the jab to a private company
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01/04/2021 14:27:52 4 12
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Please may we have another 'covid' article to witter about bbc ?
Not see that many.
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Rob
01/04/2021 14:28:16 6 10
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Good news, time to start to get back to normal. Should be no more restrictions after June 21st, time to live again, have fun again etc.
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01/04/2021 14:48:11 9 0
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Only if you're foolish - and many are!
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01/04/2021 14:29:01 593 23
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The people who invented the vaccines should be front page news

On all the talk shows, celeb magazines etc

We have a great opportunity to demonstrate to the youth what “successful” actually means and also a congratulations to the scientific community

Film and music stars move over - here comes the real heroes
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01/04/2021 14:37:37 164 5
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The GC gets more coverage in the media that the science legends behind this, no wonder kids don't care about school and just want instant fame.
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01/04/2021 14:41:13 31 9
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They are more newsworthy than the Sussex Liars.
Who would have thought it ?
U.K. less racist than US
Wedding didn’t take place before the televised event.
Zero cred. Not newsworthy
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01/04/2021 15:00:47 26 37
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Well, IMO by voting BJ to become PM, was showing to the UK youth that serial lying eventually pays...
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01/04/2021 15:12:23 57 0
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Just a guess but I expect that 99.9% of the vaccine inventers would rather stick pins in their eyes than appear on vacuous talk shows or in celebrity magazines ...

Still, at least they'd be famous for actually achieving something other than having sex on camera or becoming 'famous for being famous'.
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01/04/2021 15:37:36 2 1
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Well said ??
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01/04/2021 15:44:16 16 0
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I think you'll find these people don't seek out fame and adulation, but just get on with the job in hand.

The TV is full of "celeb" programmes which does little to encourage school kids, other than lead them to believe you can make a quick buck by doing nothing much.

I expect what the vaccine people would really like is some proper government funding, all the time, not just when it suits.
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01/04/2021 16:05:23 1 23
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you clearly have no clue what you are talking about , the covid vaccine is 91% effective in the 0.8% who would likely develop symptoms , for everyone else it does nothing , zip , nadda , zilch , no effect and they know it , learn to count then look at the trial data , BBC do not have a journalist who can count but lots of people can and they spotted this months ago
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01/04/2021 16:24:28 2 2
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I don’t think it needs to be either/or. Film and music stars don’t claim to be heroes anyway, although a good many of them use their fame and money to do good. But 100% agree re the scientific community aka “experts”, and let’s not forget it’s been an international collaboration. Brilliant work from all of them.
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01/04/2021 16:40:40 6 2
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Sadly the brilliant scientists who developed the vaccine will get nothing like the plaudits they deserve. Boris will claim most of the credit.
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01/04/2021 16:41:16 5 0
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We should acknowledge that these scientists are on top of these issues all the time. It appears it took only a weekend for the scientists to identify the original strain of Covid and to work out the solution, the rest of the time has been taken up with testing and clinical trials. They are adapting the vaccines constantly to each strain that comes along, they know what they are doing, excellent.
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01/04/2021 16:55:44 4 0
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I hope some Nobel prizes are headed their way.
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01/04/2021 17:30:43 1 0
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This is the problem - all "celebs" are famous for the wrong reasons. E.g. taking part in a reality TV show.. Or being a TV presenter. Even sports stars which requires some skill - are still not actually doing anything of benefit to the world. (Other than maybe making us fatter by being paid millions to sell junk food and other wasteful products).
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01/04/2021 18:07:18 0 0
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Let's record the name for future reference.
01/04/2021 18:11:04 4 0
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Like Salk and Sabin for polio .... moderately well educated folk will recognise their names and the deserved status they achieved.
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01/04/2021 14:29:21 2 5
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Please tell us we've been using the right vaccine. Pleeeeeeease!
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01/04/2021 14:40:34 12 0
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OK.... We've been using the right vaccine.

Happy now?
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01/04/2021 14:22:31 10 2
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Back of the net
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01/04/2021 14:29:32 2 3
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Four words. Try 'on the ed' or 'bozzer my son'.
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01/04/2021 14:30:12 23 3
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We need much more production capacity for vaccines.

Covid vaccines were developed in an amazing timescale but we now have to repeatedly vaccinate the whole world and that is almost impossible at the current rate, with the prosperous countries competing for what is available.
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01/04/2021 15:39:20 10 0
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The problem is that vaccine research & production is not popular with the big pharma companies, there's more profit in repeated medication drugs. That's why the 1st 2 vaccines onstream were developed by a small German biotech startup & Oxford Uni. Vaccine Group. We need more funding for vaccine research, development & production.
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:30:23 31 17
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Boooring. And off topic.
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01/04/2021 14:35:29 7 8
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It is only 'Boooring' because you do not like the facts and it is hardly 'off-topic' because the vaccination success in the UK and the vaccination debacle in the EU are obvious benefits of NOT being in the EU otherwise we would be in the same mess as they are
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01/04/2021 14:31:08 137 3
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Its not just stopping cases (i.e vaccine efficacy), but arguably even more important is keeping people from falling seriously ill and needing hospital treatment, and data seems to show that vaccines are particularly good at that. If you get infected but don't get ill, that's generally good enough.
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01/04/2021 16:22:08 20 60
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I don't want to read or hear any more, about how effective the Pfizer BioNtech vaccine is.
We in UK are getting the AZ Oxford vaccine.
Tell me how THAT is doing...
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01/04/2021 17:44:16 10 0
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I had a Pfizer jab. Everyone at the centre in Essex that day had the same jab.
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01/04/2021 14:31:15 216 8
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Great job by the BioNTech scientists who created this jab,for them and the the Moderna,Oxford,Jansse,Novavax teams thank you very much
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jon
01/04/2021 14:44:41 65 7
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Good news on following up the test data. Any news on deaths after the Pfizer jab. Like Astra the blood disorder risks are probably outweigh by the benefits

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html
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01/04/2021 14:31:16 82 34
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Cases?!

Since when was that the goal?

Stop moving the posts through this subtle messaging and narrative changes!

We care about the NHS collapsing, not Karen Bloggs having a headache and cough for a week.
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Bob
01/04/2021 14:37:09 54 11
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Did you only get as far as the 7th word in the headline and immediately spring into rage mode?

This is about medical data on a previously unknown datapoint. Not government restrictions or goals or narratives.
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01/04/2021 14:38:23 1 10
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Totally agree.
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Bob
01/04/2021 14:43:03 7 4
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We already knew it's effectiveness on hospitalisations. We didn't know it for cases.

And yes, hospitalisations drive the measures, but what drives hospitalisations?

Cases.

This is important, and very welcome, news.
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01/04/2021 15:03:05 3 4
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Less cases will result in less hospitalisations and less deaths. You don't get one without the other...so to protect the NHS we need to reduce cases.
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01/04/2021 15:24:51 0 0
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Watch your BP Woody ;)
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01/04/2021 14:30:52 9 3
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This is excellent news and a ringing endorsement of the vaccination programme and our early investment in it. Sadly whilst we may be touched by the virus issues in Europe I am more concerned about the political fall out with elections in Germany and France.
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01/04/2021 14:31:34 6 0
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In England in the week ending 14 March 2021, the percentage of people testing positive for antibodies:
for those aged 80 years and over was 86.0% (95% credible interval: 79.0% to 90.5%)ONS

So 86% of over 80's after they had all* been vaccinated
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01/04/2021 14:31:47 891 56
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Well done to Pfizer and to AstraZeneca . Both companies have been outstanding , especially AZ who are supplying at cost to millions. The world should be forever thankful for that.

Pfizer deserves good publicity and AZ deserves far better treatment than has been dished out to it.
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01/04/2021 14:37:29 492 36
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Absolutely, the amount of scaremongering placed around the AC vaccine, especially as they are providing it at close, is disgraceful.

The term "why do we bother" must have been flying around their emails!

Ignore the mood hoovers on here.

Onwards and upwards!
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xlr
01/04/2021 14:46:32 37 48
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AZ deserved better than to be used as a political football.
Researchers like Oxford team didn't deserve to have UKRI halved and EU funding not replaced.
Or pharma workers the redundancy that awaits them when vaccine production ramps down and there's barriers to the EU market.
Or NHS workers 1% pay rises.
Or police attacked for keeping us safe.

Been a pretty crappy epidemic, all things considered.
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01/04/2021 14:48:08 19 116
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Pfizer- Biontech is the best. Let's be honest. There is nothing wrong about AZ, just not fantastic IMO.
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01/04/2021 14:49:20 23 145
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AstraZeneca... unauthorised in Switzerland, Japan and the US.
AstraZeneca... massive supply problems in India, EU, and Australia.
AstraZeneca... banned for older people in Canada.
AstraZeneca... not used in South Africa anymore as it did not work against their variant.

A bit misleading to say Pfizer and AstraZeneca deserve the same credit.
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01/04/2021 14:55:17 15 19
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I really do wish people would read what they write before posting.
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RG
01/04/2021 15:06:39 9 1
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Yes despite Pfizers huge criminal record they have supplier vacancies very efficiently!
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01/04/2021 15:28:17 15 1
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Macron and Merkel should be ashamed. Between them they have rubbished their chance to get out of this pandemic. Well done to you both. Now watch your cases rise.
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01/04/2021 15:29:31 7 0
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It's not just vaccines though.
UK has done multiple research on treatments (recovery trial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECOVERY_Trial), over as this report responses in aged, over 12 week second dose (which if EU and World used it might speed up protection and rollout.. Rollout even in EU is limited by vac shortage).
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01/04/2021 15:51:25 9 2
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Couldn’t agree more. I think history will look very kindly on Oxford and AZ. In the meantime, we all have to suffer the nonsensical individuals who bang on with their anti vaxxing
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01/04/2021 14:32:04 12 12
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The best vaccine is the AstraZeneca one. ANOINT US WITH THOSE BRITISH JUICES.
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01/04/2021 14:33:02 127 48
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THANK YOU UK FOR THE VACCINES

SAVING US ALL ????
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01/04/2021 14:45:07 54 87
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It's not a nationalist thing!
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01/04/2021 14:59:20 18 23
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Are you drunk?
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01/04/2021 15:20:18 15 11
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Indeed Pfizer- Biontech. Is a german american vaccines.
The EU sent 21 million vaccines to the UK.
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01/04/2021 15:27:23 18 3
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This article refers to the Pfizer vaccine (which I have had my first dose of). It was developed by 2 Turkish immigrants to Germany, funded by German & EU money and made by a US pharma company.

This is a global pandemic & so the response must be global. This is not a petty nationalist issue, this is the WHOLE world working against the virus.
01/04/2021 20:41:27 0 0
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Lol, if you're not bleating SNP baaaad, you're cheerleading like a Union lackie.
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:33:19 4 0
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If only they hadn't paused three weeks ago.
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01/04/2021 14:33:40 106 3
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the flu vaccines are not 100% effective. none is. Whichever vaccine an individual has, the overall efficacy within the community should break the back of the pandemic.
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01/04/2021 14:44:45 43 19
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Provided 80%+ of the community take it - too many won't.
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01/04/2021 15:02:20 5 1
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If the correct version of influenza strain used the effectiveness is high. The problem is that the strain(s) are selected well in advance and are often incorrect. Vaccines for smallpox, polio and so on have been shown to be 100% effective.
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01/04/2021 15:03:32 13 3
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Correct. 20,000 people die from flu in a normal year - more in some years. The flu vaccine helps to keep it at this low level but will never completely eliminate it. Same with COVID; there will always be a few thousand - probably more for a few decades. But the vaccine will keep it to a tolerable level as long as we all take it.
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01/04/2021 15:21:51 12 5
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The 'community' here must be world-wide or variants will outpace the vaccine. This pandemic is global & the protection must be too. The comments here 'pubs, shops and borders open NOW' are premature, especially borders.
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01/04/2021 14:33:47 12 30
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Time to start living again. Enough of these restrictions. People who want to stay in can. But let the rest of us live again
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01/04/2021 14:40:19 6 10
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Shock there on down voters who clearly don’t want to get back on with lives
Removed
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01/04/2021 14:34:13 85 23
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Pfizer have worked the classic American business model. Covert operation to create uncertainty about competitive market product. Undermine confidence in its efficacy, (their clotting stats are exactly the same as others), sweeten politicians.
Pfizer want Africa and S America markets, but they want a cheaper version than Pfizer will produce.
Same model with USA aviation, aero engines, etc.
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01/04/2021 14:53:19 24 131
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Paranoid much?

AstraZeneca caused their own problems... in Q1 they only delivered to EU + India + Australia a fraction (about 20%) of what they were supposed to deliver.

AstraZeneca do not need some imaginary conspiracy from Pfizer... AstraZeneca have proven very good at shooting themselves in the foot in many parts of the world.
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01/04/2021 15:05:51 6 4
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Nice to know that Pfizer are only where they are due to the British giving them the ability to produce penicillin.
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01/04/2021 15:09:35 7 3
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Spot on. This reminds me of the FUD acronym that used to describe the efforts a large American IT supplier used to rubbish its (mainly American) competitors.

for those of you who do not know, FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt
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01/04/2021 15:12:37 7 1
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100% correct
I worked for an American company in aerospace supply chain, and that is the exact model used.
US MBAs could learn a lot from the UK
01/04/2021 19:26:59 7 1
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Well there's certainly something odd going on in the European market. The Commission, Macron and Merkel don't seem to want the AZ jab to be used, but are complaining that they aren't getting enough. Do they actually know what they are doing or has everything got too much for them?
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01/04/2021 14:34:16 105 43
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Pity the BBC wont churn out supportive data on the AZ jab to counteract the "crap" being bandied around our EU friends and allies ....
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01/04/2021 14:37:00 46 16
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They have done, in spades
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01/04/2021 14:47:34 10 5
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To be fair, the BBC have been excellent in countering the utter nonsense coming from the EU regarding AstraZeneca vaccines.

Granted, if it were the UK criticising the vaccine then they'd be running 24hr bulletins calling for people to be put on spikes in addition to throwing the facts out there, but let's give the Beeb credit where it's due.
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01/04/2021 14:53:02 0 1
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Tell us more crap :)
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01/04/2021 14:54:29 9 3
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Canada just banned the Astra Zeneca vaccine for part of its population.
Switzerland banned Astra Zeneca for its ENTIRE population.
Don't blame the EU.
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01/04/2021 15:13:38 6 7
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EU friends???? I would class many of the European countries as friends but not the EU
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01/04/2021 16:33:37 0 0
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The supportive data has been broadcast by the BBC.
JWG
01/04/2021 19:48:42 0 0
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It’s not all so black and white though is it. My Mother had blood clots on her lungs after the virus, she’s not so sure about getting the second job but a suppose a HYS statement from you will convince her. Brexit clown logic
01/04/2021 20:35:22 1 0
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tellitasitis a lot i feel is brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high.

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
01/04/2021 22:05:34 0 0
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Actually the BEEB reported wisely on this and fairly for once. There have been several instances of blood clots in the brain after the AZ vaccine and the jury is out as to why these are happening in those under 55 with stronger immune systems. Five cases of this in the UK. But the link to the AZ vaccine questioned more research needed. But science not politics at the heart of this debate.
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:34:20 6 6
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False. You got the 52% figure from those tested showing antibodies. That does not mean 52% have had vaccines (is still mainly over 50s!).

Why do you feel the need to lie so desperately?
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01/04/2021 14:40:21 6 4
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Indeed, it is ONLY 50.4% of the UK population who have been vaccinated

In Germany it is ONLY 15.4% & in France it is ONLY 15.3%, both less than the 16% I quoted

And only the over 50s have received the vaccine in the UK because ONLY 88% of the deaths occurred in these age groups

Here, read it for yourself https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:27:26 8 2
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Agree, data not dates....also good data coming from Israel and USA that has reopened....driven by data not dates....
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Bob
01/04/2021 14:34:23 3 3
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OK then, now look at Chile's data. Rising cases, rising deaths and they recently overtook us for doses administered per capita.

Also I don't know about Israel, but the US had not fully reopened. Pubs etc still closed in many states, likewise some even still have stay at home advisories.
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01/04/2021 14:34:48 145 49
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Great news.
But what we really ought to know is how many blood clots does it cause?
I mean, isn't that the key question for many in the EU?
Or does only AZ get asked that question.
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01/04/2021 14:49:53 125 14
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I've just reviewed my 'effective vaccines for French Presidents' book.

It says that 91% efficacy counts as "Quasi-ineffective", with anything above being "still very dodgy" and anything below being "Armageddon".
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01/04/2021 14:51:16 4 15
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The problem with AZ also exists in Canada: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

Also relevant: Switzerland banned the AZ vaccine completely
Your post says a lot about your priorities. The key question is "are you ashamed of yourself"? Removed
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01/04/2021 15:15:24 7 0
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No cause and effect evidence for any of the vaccines causing lethal side effects. Even if there was still 1000 times more likely to die from Covid
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01/04/2021 15:15:49 7 1
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I agree that the blood-clot problem is probably over-stated & some nations are being too cautious but it isn't only the EU countries which have cut AZ usage( & it isn't an EU decision it's made by individual countries). The EU based EMA has said its benefits outweigh risks.
https://fullfact.org/online/blood-clot-az-ban/
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01/04/2021 15:17:24 21 3
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I agree with you, but just want to point out that there's not a single (Covid) vaccine that has been linked (scientifically) to blood clots. The only clot I know of that the AZ has created are the clots running Europe.
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01/04/2021 15:25:09 16 1
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My wife has chronic heart failure & has also had blood clots. She is on warfarin for life but got the injection a month ago & suffered no ill effects from this vaccine. If anyone was going to get a blood clot it would have been my wife.
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01/04/2021 16:31:32 1 0
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Very few in relation to the hundreds of doses admimistered, as you well know.
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01/04/2021 16:42:09 3 0
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The BBC reports 5 cases in the UK after 11m jabs. However, this is just data and may be coincidence as there's no evidence linking cause and effect. Blood clots are not a new phenomenon. Look it up.
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01/04/2021 17:42:14 3 0
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It causes less blood clots than in a normal population. Covid causes a far higher number of blood clots than in the normal population. Sadly I learned this early on when my friend from work, 32 year old woman with no pre-existing medical issues was blue lighted to hospital because covid gave her blood clots on her lungs.
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01/04/2021 17:46:07 3 0
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Apparently there are less clots then there would be normally for the amount of people getting jabs. So really it’s how many blood clots has it prevented?
01/04/2021 20:33:45 0 0
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This is typical brexiteer

i feel its brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high.

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
01/04/2021 21:11:50 0 0
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Perhaps the real question should be 'How many blood clots occur anyway in those who have not been vaccinated?'
Also
If the majority are women is there something in this as well?
Why are the numbers lower in the UK than the rest of Europe?
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01/04/2021 14:35:05 182 14
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Well done to the scientific community and drug companies. A year ago we could only have dreamt of having a range of vaccines as effective as this at our disposal. The political classes in some European states should hang their heads in shame at how they have behaved and spread half-truths about the vaccines.
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01/04/2021 14:57:51 55 257
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Yet still our shops, pubs and borders are closed despite this fantastic success.

Get a grip Boris. Open up now.
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01/04/2021 15:17:27 10 5
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Not just Europe - remember Trump thought we could have a Domestos vaccine!
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01/04/2021 15:54:04 19 1
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Yes, and all the EU leaders have done is to try their best to put a spanner in the works.

Macron and von der Leyen should be ashamed of themselves.
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01/04/2021 14:35:11 23 12
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So it's good news for Pfizer, and good news for Pfizer. The first, because it gives a good immune response at first. The second, because it looks like they will be selling the needed boosters for the same patients for a few years to come when immunity drops off. Laughing all the way to the bank.
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01/04/2021 14:43:12 21 10
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Laughing all the way to a healthy profit to ensure excellent R&D funding and capability for future drugs, I think you'll find.
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01/04/2021 14:44:15 3 3
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Personally, Bill, I don't care if they make a profit (I believe they aren't doing so). If they can produce a product that gets us all out and about again, I would say it's good news for humanity. They deserve our thanks for getting a vaccine ready in 10 months and not 10 years.
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DMT
01/04/2021 14:35:21 107 17
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It’s terrific. Well done Pfizer. Doesn’t matter where it is manufactured, or which country is behind it, it’s all good news ( lesson to EU leaders. Leave bitterness and politics out of it )
Note to 'leave' - spaff off. Removed
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01/04/2021 14:56:41 6 14
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The EU hasn't said anything negative negative about Pfizer. Why? Because when Pfizer say they will deliver x doses, they do deliver x doses. Unlike AstraZeneca...
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01/04/2021 15:53:23 3 0
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Indeed!! Well done to Pfizer!!
01/04/2021 20:34:07 0 0
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DMT a lot i feel is brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high.

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
01/04/2021 20:47:01 0 0
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Agreed. Many countries are behind every vaccine - representing this by just counting the country in which the final assembly takes place belongs in the side of a big red bus. As Irish PM noted of pfizer it required 280 materials from 86 suppliers in 19 countries, including Britain. But EU writes Ireland out of the script on this one - far too fact-oriented.
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01/04/2021 14:35:29 3 3
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At the risk of teaching the science bods how to suck eggs, surely the remarkable antibody effect in the elderly bracket would mean blood tests would ensure more scientific anti COVID research ?
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01/04/2021 14:30:23 31 17
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Boooring. And off topic.
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01/04/2021 14:35:29 7 8
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It is only 'Boooring' because you do not like the facts and it is hardly 'off-topic' because the vaccination success in the UK and the vaccination debacle in the EU are obvious benefits of NOT being in the EU otherwise we would be in the same mess as they are
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01/04/2021 14:40:51 8 5
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I disagree. I find your lying and name calling really dull.
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01/04/2021 14:23:35 13 24
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All about the money for Pfizer.

Would be good to see some more humility and care from them.
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01/04/2021 14:35:57 10 10
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Gratitude would also not go amiss.

I get my second shot next week

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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01/04/2021 14:36:11 8 33
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The top comments here are by those that hid under a desk from bird flu and believe the government and msm. It's truly saddening how easily people are brainwashed.
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01/04/2021 14:45:45 11 0
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Maybe you just don't want to face up to reality?
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01/04/2021 14:50:13 0 0
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Pssst! What do you know that we dont? I know, I know... do my own research.
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01/04/2021 14:50:57 3 0
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Yes, sorry for believing the government, the entire free press, the entire medical establishment in every country on earth; and not believing a couple of quack former doctors, david icke, piers corbyn and your mate Terry who doesn't know anyone who's died of it and wants to go back to the pub.
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01/04/2021 14:51:24 0 0
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Yeah - any idea where it happened to you and when?
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01/04/2021 14:51:42 1 0
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You can get help ?
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:36:33 6 7
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and will we expect the bbc to enthuse over the success of the uk programme in comparison to their beloved EU-pigs might fly
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01/04/2021 14:27:25 8 25
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why is the retail and leisure industry still at astandstill.towns and cities full of boarded up pubs and restraunts...pathetic from this out of touch govt and the inept folk that makes it up
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01/04/2021 14:36:36 15 0
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1. Less than 10% of the population has had 2 doses.
2. The virus only mutates inside the body.
3. When unprotected people mix they catch/spread the virus.
4. You then get more mutations. Some of them will be much more severe than the original. (The Brazil variant is infecting people who had the original virus, which shows how much it has changed.)

5. I'm sorry
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01/04/2021 14:36:52 13 21
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o.k. great, now can we please open the pub TODAY, I'm gasping.
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xlr
01/04/2021 14:37:54 9 9
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Buy alcohol online
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01/04/2021 14:51:19 0 2
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Brew your own or get help before your liver dies.
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01/04/2021 14:34:16 105 43
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Pity the BBC wont churn out supportive data on the AZ jab to counteract the "crap" being bandied around our EU friends and allies ....
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01/04/2021 14:37:00 46 16
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They have done, in spades
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01/04/2021 15:05:38 3 4
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Are we still allowed to use the word spades?
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01/04/2021 14:31:16 82 34
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Cases?!

Since when was that the goal?

Stop moving the posts through this subtle messaging and narrative changes!

We care about the NHS collapsing, not Karen Bloggs having a headache and cough for a week.
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Bob
01/04/2021 14:37:09 54 11
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Did you only get as far as the 7th word in the headline and immediately spring into rage mode?

This is about medical data on a previously unknown datapoint. Not government restrictions or goals or narratives.
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01/04/2021 14:31:47 891 56
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Well done to Pfizer and to AstraZeneca . Both companies have been outstanding , especially AZ who are supplying at cost to millions. The world should be forever thankful for that.

Pfizer deserves good publicity and AZ deserves far better treatment than has been dished out to it.
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01/04/2021 14:37:29 492 36
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Absolutely, the amount of scaremongering placed around the AC vaccine, especially as they are providing it at close, is disgraceful.

The term "why do we bother" must have been flying around their emails!

Ignore the mood hoovers on here.

Onwards and upwards!
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01/04/2021 14:39:14 32 3
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*AZ
*cost
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01/04/2021 15:19:51 3 15
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It's not scaremongering it is monitoring of a vaccine that in a very small amount of women under 50 who react to the vaccine develop anti heparin antibodies which causes blood clots (https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-362354/v1) it is not know how or why this would happen in some people. Rather than immediately attack anyone who highlights possible issues it would be better to discuss them.
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01/04/2021 14:29:01 593 23
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The people who invented the vaccines should be front page news

On all the talk shows, celeb magazines etc

We have a great opportunity to demonstrate to the youth what “successful” actually means and also a congratulations to the scientific community

Film and music stars move over - here comes the real heroes
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01/04/2021 14:37:37 164 5
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The GC gets more coverage in the media that the science legends behind this, no wonder kids don't care about school and just want instant fame.
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01/04/2021 15:27:56 21 0
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God I hate the GC - but scarily these people become millionaires on the back of it!!

Truth be told if I was told I could pay of my mortgage by appearing on some of these shows I’d act an idiot for a series

But I don’t get how acting thick became “popular”

Maybe it’s an age thing
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01/04/2021 16:15:43 5 0
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gc?
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01/04/2021 16:25:29 3 0
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GC?
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01/04/2021 17:08:10 2 0
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Whats the GC?
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01/04/2021 17:23:15 3 1
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Well it is their job, and they have all done it. You need to avoid the over lauding of any group doing their jobs. It would be irrelevant work if sewage workers were not doing theirs and diseases spread via that old vector. But no emotional fuss over them just doing their job.

You are in effect falling for the celebrity culture, just choosing different jobs.
01/04/2021 22:03:18 0 0
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What is GC?
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01/04/2021 14:37:53 12 4
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14 times less effective, so -1300%? surely it's 1/14th as effective?

100% less effective is 0%
01/04/2021 20:55:26 0 0
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This way of describing things as “so many times smaller” is nonsense. Journalists like to vary how they describe things to avoid repetition, such as mixing fractions with percentages, but it just makes things less clear.
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01/04/2021 14:36:52 13 21
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o.k. great, now can we please open the pub TODAY, I'm gasping.
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xlr
01/04/2021 14:37:54 9 9
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Buy alcohol online
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01/04/2021 14:31:16 82 34
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Cases?!

Since when was that the goal?

Stop moving the posts through this subtle messaging and narrative changes!

We care about the NHS collapsing, not Karen Bloggs having a headache and cough for a week.
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01/04/2021 14:38:23 1 10
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Totally agree.
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01/04/2021 14:38:26 16 7
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The one thing that is clear from this story is that folks are going to need booster shots. The next flashpoint is going to be when countries start boosters and others haven’t completed their initial vaccination roll out... maybe wealthy countries should avoid nationalism and not use their own expensive vaccine and buy 2 or more of the cheap ones and give them to the developing world.
01/04/2021 19:46:05 1 0
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And production must be increased to cater for all the world without countries competing for supplies.
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01/04/2021 14:39:00 9 15
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An article about the effectiveness about the Pfizer vaccine with a HYS full of the usual anti-EU comments. It’s become an obsession...
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01/04/2021 14:44:59 11 2
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Could be because the EU has made such a total pigs-ear of their programme.
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01/04/2021 14:44:48 0 1
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almost as bad as a quote from Immature Micron
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01/04/2021 15:01:23 1 2
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Boring is what it’s become. Still blaming the EU for everything even after leaving.

And deriding the EU despite the fact that over 10 million of the AZ jabs we have received were manufactured in the EU and exported to us.

Tempting to suggest they go back to blaming everything on ‘immigrants’ but of course Britain isn’t that sort of country. Or so Bozo’s mates tell us anyway.
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01/04/2021 15:31:38 0 0
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Did you hear? It’s the EU who NASTILY forced BJ to accept money from hostile foreign nations. It’s the EU who FORCED BJ to have affairs. It’s the EU forcing BJ to curb a Briton’s right to free speech and freedom to protest.

Gosh, that EU fella is a proper piece of work, isn’t he
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01/04/2021 14:39:02 7 24
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Will there be civil unrest if this carries on into 2022 I wonder? What next.. The Neptune Variant?
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01/04/2021 14:43:19 21 4
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If what carries on? Trying to protect the nation sensibly and cautiously in the midst of a global pandemic?
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01/04/2021 14:49:58 3 0
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Do tell me when you storm the barricades ?? ??
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01/04/2021 14:37:29 492 36
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Absolutely, the amount of scaremongering placed around the AC vaccine, especially as they are providing it at close, is disgraceful.

The term "why do we bother" must have been flying around their emails!

Ignore the mood hoovers on here.

Onwards and upwards!
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01/04/2021 14:39:14 32 3
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*AZ
*cost
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01/04/2021 14:39:29 9 19
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Vaccine supply for first jabs is now a major issue in the UK. A shame that the government's industrial strategy did not support vaccine production in the UK over the past ten years
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01/04/2021 14:47:19 4 1
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That is not true. There is a short term fluctuation to levels that six months ago were unthinkable. Fake news.
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01/04/2021 14:47:43 1 2
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The next issue is going to be can we afford to keep vaccinating every adult every year..
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01/04/2021 14:50:53 0 3
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Or any other production for that matter. And now we have Boris "F**k Business" on free B&B at No 10.
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01/04/2021 14:26:42 41 22
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Great job Pfizer, but sadly I sneezed 20 seconds after I got my Pfizer jab, so I told Macron and he's now telling everyone the jab will instantly kill you if you take it.
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01/04/2021 14:39:34 25 9
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My arm ached for the whole day after, but my mental health has improved as I no longer worry about standing next to the other people in my household.
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01/04/2021 14:45:59 3 0
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You should still be cautious!
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01/04/2021 15:03:15 0 2
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In Europe several people started to have serious symptoms are 1-2 weeks...
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'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:42:55 1 0
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The paradigm is taken from Cancer interventions, and we would feel a bit less 'eek' about this if the cells in question were malignant.
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01/04/2021 14:44:14 3 0
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If you don't understand the science please don't comment. Your understanding is SO flawed you must either be Frau Merkel or M. Macron.
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01/04/2021 14:44:59 3 1
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The worst side effect from Covid-19 is death , though
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01/04/2021 14:45:35 3 0
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Will, you don't understand the first bit of the science - it's the virus that hijacks our cells to produce copies, not the Pfizer vaccine. Stop doing "your own research" on Facebook and Youtube.
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01/04/2021 14:47:34 1 0
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You don't read books then?
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01/04/2021 14:48:07 0 2
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I mean, this is exactly how both Pfizer and Moderna claim their 'vaccines' work. AZ works as a vector vaccine, while the Pfizer and Moderna use a new, and untested (on humans) experimental mRNA technology. Wonder how many people this autumn/winter will test positive/need hospitalization after having two doses of either vaccine? Are the so called 'booster' doses actually the 2nd jabs? Who knows?
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01/04/2021 14:49:55 1 0
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You should have spent more time in school. Your grasp of basic science concepts is worrying.
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01/04/2021 14:33:47 12 30
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Time to start living again. Enough of these restrictions. People who want to stay in can. But let the rest of us live again
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01/04/2021 14:40:19 6 10
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Shock there on down voters who clearly don’t want to get back on with lives
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01/04/2021 14:53:44 0 0
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What 'life' have you got then Andy ?
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01/04/2021 14:58:51 1 1
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They're all zombies, let keep them in their own graves...
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01/04/2021 14:34:20 6 6
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False. You got the 52% figure from those tested showing antibodies. That does not mean 52% have had vaccines (is still mainly over 50s!).

Why do you feel the need to lie so desperately?
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01/04/2021 14:40:21 6 4
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Indeed, it is ONLY 50.4% of the UK population who have been vaccinated

In Germany it is ONLY 15.4% & in France it is ONLY 15.3%, both less than the 16% I quoted

And only the over 50s have received the vaccine in the UK because ONLY 88% of the deaths occurred in these age groups

Here, read it for yourself https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

PMSL
OK. So self admitted liar.

Might want to get your bladder problem looked at too.
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01/04/2021 14:29:21 2 5
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Please tell us we've been using the right vaccine. Pleeeeeeease!
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01/04/2021 14:40:34 12 0
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OK.... We've been using the right vaccine.

Happy now?
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01/04/2021 14:35:29 7 8
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It is only 'Boooring' because you do not like the facts and it is hardly 'off-topic' because the vaccination success in the UK and the vaccination debacle in the EU are obvious benefits of NOT being in the EU otherwise we would be in the same mess as they are
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01/04/2021 14:40:51 8 5
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I disagree. I find your lying and name calling really dull.
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01/04/2021 14:42:09 6 5
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Now that IS off-topic!

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:48:32 2 2
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I find it dull that people are completely unable to understand percentages and the difference between vaccination numbers and antibody numbers but hey ho.
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01/04/2021 15:20:56 1 0
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pot kettle black
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01/04/2021 14:40:51 8 5
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I disagree. I find your lying and name calling really dull.
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01/04/2021 14:42:09 6 5
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Now that IS off-topic!

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:40:21 6 4
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Indeed, it is ONLY 50.4% of the UK population who have been vaccinated

In Germany it is ONLY 15.4% & in France it is ONLY 15.3%, both less than the 16% I quoted

And only the over 50s have received the vaccine in the UK because ONLY 88% of the deaths occurred in these age groups

Here, read it for yourself https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

PMSL
OK. So self admitted liar.

Might want to get your bladder problem looked at too.
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01/04/2021 14:45:33 4 4
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Off topic AND personal abuse!

PMSL again!
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01/04/2021 14:42:31 385 22
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Excellent news.

But why do we see mostly positive news stories about the Pfizer jab, but many negative news stories about the AstraZeneca jab?
Is it PR? Is it Politics? Is it vaccine nationalism? Is it economics? (AZ being a not-for-profit vaccine marketed at a fraction of the cost of other covid vaccines).
Very curious since all the approved vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective.
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01/04/2021 14:44:44 192 9
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Indeed - would be good for the beeb to do a comparison of post-vaccine deaths to see if any of the other vaccines have anything similar to the AZ one (which is near nothing and possibly statistically irrelevant).
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01/04/2021 14:49:30 62 5
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"AZ being a not-for-profit vaccine marketed at a fraction of the cost of other covid vaccines"

I think you've answered your own question there. No business sector likes one of its members selling products at cost and undercutting everyone else.
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01/04/2021 14:55:48 12 64
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Why the negative news stories about AstraZeneca? Ask AstraZeneca's management why they overpromised?. They have only delivered a fraction of the doses they were supposed to deliver in India, in Australia and in the EU.
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01/04/2021 15:23:45 38 5
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It's what happens when you tie profiting to your vaccine instead of giving it away at cost price like AstraZeneca do. Pfizer throw millions at their PR campaign for positive stories and the fact Germany benefit from this profits, its no wonder Merkel and her cronies in the EU try to sway public influence towards them instead of AstraZeneca.
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01/04/2021 15:28:19 11 24
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I suggest you do a little research on some of the countries that have restrictions on the AZ vaccine and you will see that their concern is based science and not PR. A little like flying , - when there is a concern over safety planes are grounded until the authorities can say the risk is next to none. They can not say so yet in Norway or Denmark as examples on their findings so far.
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01/04/2021 15:35:27 8 30
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It's because data has shown issues with side effects with AZ. AZ hasn't helped their cause by using outdated data for various PR only to have to correct it later, and trying to hide the very rare blood clotting issue by bundling it up into an 'all blood clot' count. Scientists have found the vaccine causes it and have named it vaccine-induced prothrombotic immune thrombocytopenia.
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01/04/2021 16:00:30 12 5
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AZ is more linked to Uk - so will get bad press ... uk cannot be seen to be punching above it’s weight (again - like it always does)
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01/04/2021 16:04:18 4 6
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Maybe the BBC owes the EU. Who funded the BBC’s new building in Salford Quays?
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01/04/2021 16:09:25 2 0
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Just what I've been thinking!!
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01/04/2021 16:16:59 9 3
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Its a politicised response by the EU to deliberately harm a UK-Swedish company, to cover up their embarrassement at mishandling every aspect of the pandemic response. At a time when AZ's share price should be increasing exponentially, their organisation has been pilloried by Merkel & Macron sending out mixed messages, with the WHO responding time and again that the vaccination is safe.
Its reckoned in under 50 year olds the AZ is causing blood clots in between 1 and 4 in 100,000 (10 - 40 per million)

This doesnt appear to be an issue with pfizer

Its reckoned it only affects the young due to their immune systems which is why clots related to the az vaccine have not yet been found in the UK (where we are working downwards in age)

Info isnt set in stone though so keep up to date
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01/04/2021 16:51:09 3 1
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No vaccine is ‘proven’ to be safe & effective
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01/04/2021 17:14:37 2 0
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Jessie J will tell you. It's all about the money money money
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01/04/2021 17:41:21 1 4
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The BBC hate anything positive that involves Britain. They try everything they can to avoid anything positive.

And also very much limit the news of the horrendous effort the EU is making.
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Dom
01/04/2021 18:00:30 1 1
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Pfizer making a massive profit. Az none. So AZ threat to business of Pfizer and the others. Plus Euro politics vs Gb. Cant imagine any difference in the vaccines really other than one helps the fat cats get fatter.
01/04/2021 18:09:36 2 1
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It's because the EU hate us, Im happy with that...I only play with people I like not bullys. :)
01/04/2021 18:45:23 2 0
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AZ hasn't been approved or used as long as Pfizer has, I'm sure the AZ results will be just as successful.
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01/04/2021 19:10:08 1 0
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Whilst commendable, the not-for-profit marketing is rather irrelevant to the safety and effectiveness of the AZ vaccine. Nobody would be happy to take an unsafe vaccine (which I don't believe the AZ vaccine to be), however cheap it may be.
01/04/2021 19:48:49 0 0
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All the vaccines make you feel a bit rough for a few days (a lot less bad than CV though).
So you sit still / in bed.
So you might well get a blood clot
01/04/2021 19:56:35 0 0
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They have only been approved for use during an emergency situation, if the emergency situation ends the licence ends and it will no longer be legal to administer it.
01/04/2021 20:26:58 0 0
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The negative AZ narratives are being generated by the EU, especially the EU Commission who look to blame AZ as sole cause of vaccine fiasco, rather than admit to mistakes or, more importantly, take active and practical steps to address real issues (which running to lawyers and Trumpian ideological posturing are not).
01/04/2021 20:30:24 0 0
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Tazzie a lot i feel is brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high.

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:42:55 1 0
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The paradigm is taken from Cancer interventions, and we would feel a bit less 'eek' about this if the cells in question were malignant.
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01/04/2021 14:31:16 82 34
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Cases?!

Since when was that the goal?

Stop moving the posts through this subtle messaging and narrative changes!

We care about the NHS collapsing, not Karen Bloggs having a headache and cough for a week.
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01/04/2021 14:43:03 7 4
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We already knew it's effectiveness on hospitalisations. We didn't know it for cases.

And yes, hospitalisations drive the measures, but what drives hospitalisations?

Cases.

This is important, and very welcome, news.
02/04/2021 11:03:59 0 0
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Almost there Bob .. What drives 'cases' though? Not symptoms! It's always been the PCR test (which is why we've mostly switched to lateral flow test since Christmas)..
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01/04/2021 14:35:11 23 12
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So it's good news for Pfizer, and good news for Pfizer. The first, because it gives a good immune response at first. The second, because it looks like they will be selling the needed boosters for the same patients for a few years to come when immunity drops off. Laughing all the way to the bank.
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01/04/2021 14:43:12 21 10
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Laughing all the way to a healthy profit to ensure excellent R&D funding and capability for future drugs, I think you'll find.
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01/04/2021 14:48:59 1 0
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That's the argument that Trump gave for refusing to make U.S. drug firms reduce prices for standard drugs like insulin, which is several times the price in the U.S. than our NHS pays for it.
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01/04/2021 14:39:02 7 24
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Will there be civil unrest if this carries on into 2022 I wonder? What next.. The Neptune Variant?
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01/04/2021 14:43:19 21 4
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If what carries on? Trying to protect the nation sensibly and cautiously in the midst of a global pandemic?
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01/04/2021 14:45:31 3 3
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These folk only care about a pint & a haircut. Shallow.
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01/04/2021 14:27:20 36 31
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More lockdowns in France, Germany likely to follow and only 16% (at best) of their populations vaccinated at least once

Meanwhile lockdowns being eased in the UK and 52% of us have received at least one vaccination

Still 'demanding' that we join the EU's Procurement & Vaccination Programme, lefties & remainers?

And how is the campaign to rejoin the EU going?

PMSL
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01/04/2021 14:44:09 6 8
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EU exported 14 million doses of vaccine. UK exported none. US Govt banned all exports of vaccine. How do you think the rest of the world feels about that?
Europe hit by a wave of Kent B.117 variant so infection came from UK who didn't have sufficient control to prevent spread and had to have a draconian lockdown.
PEOPLE DIE OF THIS all you do is crow. Until the world is vaccinated no-one's safe.
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01/04/2021 14:46:55 4 3
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The UK exports components of all vaccines all over the world, particularly those for the PB vaccine in the EU

Isn't online education & learning fun!
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01/04/2021 14:50:55 3 3
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The Kent variant was first detected there, it did not originate there. No one else, particularly the EU, was looking for it

But the fact that it was found in Kent rather than Edinburgh, Cardiff or Plymouth is rather curious, isn't it?

Perhaps it actually came from the EU on a lorry...?
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01/04/2021 15:02:08 2 2
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Just because we identified a variant does not mean it originated here. For all we know it developed in France and was brought in by lorry drivers crossing the channel who passed it on in Kent.

The reason we knew about it, is because we do so much more identifying and tracking of variants than the EU.

and we have exported vast amounts of the materials required to manufacture vaccines
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:44:14 3 0
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If you don't understand the science please don't comment. Your understanding is SO flawed you must either be Frau Merkel or M. Macron.
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01/04/2021 14:31:15 216 8
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Great job by the BioNTech scientists who created this jab,for them and the the Moderna,Oxford,Jansse,Novavax teams thank you very much
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01/04/2021 14:44:41 65 7
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Good news on following up the test data. Any news on deaths after the Pfizer jab. Like Astra the blood disorder risks are probably outweigh by the benefits

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html
01/04/2021 19:57:57 1 2
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So by that you’re saying that those who died after the vaccine, their lives don’t matter? Could you look their families in the eyes and say that.
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01/04/2021 14:42:31 385 22
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Excellent news.

But why do we see mostly positive news stories about the Pfizer jab, but many negative news stories about the AstraZeneca jab?
Is it PR? Is it Politics? Is it vaccine nationalism? Is it economics? (AZ being a not-for-profit vaccine marketed at a fraction of the cost of other covid vaccines).
Very curious since all the approved vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective.
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01/04/2021 14:44:44 192 9
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Indeed - would be good for the beeb to do a comparison of post-vaccine deaths to see if any of the other vaccines have anything similar to the AZ one (which is near nothing and possibly statistically irrelevant).
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01/04/2021 15:39:12 25 4
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It has been done for the infamous 'Blood Clots'. There is no difference between clots after Astra-Zeneca and all of the other (Western) vaccines.
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01/04/2021 16:06:53 9 0
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Extract from https://fullfact.org/online/460-vaccine-deaths-yellow-card/

...suspicions about adverse effects to be reported, even if the person reporting it is not sure that it was caused by the vaccine... it is often coincidental that they both occurred around the same time.”

Reports / Reactions / Deaths:

Pfizer: 29,715 / 85,179 / 212
AstraZeneca: 42,917 / 157,637 / 244
Others: 228 / 796 / 4
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01/04/2021 16:19:53 9 2
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Couldn't agree with you more. BBC have been totally negligent in their investigative journalism - just jumped on the populist band-wagon promoting negative stories about AZ . BBC should undertake a proper comparative study of the efficacy of ALL the vaccines - including Russia's Sputnik V and China's Sinovax - instead of all the constant scare-mongering about AZ blood-clots/other side effects.
01/04/2021 19:17:40 0 0
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as of March 21st ... 283 deaths post Pfizer & 421 for AZ. These are as reported to the government yellow card scheme. Unlike a 'covid death' which gets applied to many deaths by other causes, post vaccination deaths are all pretty much dismissed as coincidence. Search yellow card on BBC news & not unsurprisingly they haven't mentioned it, despite massive relevance to everyone who gets vaccinated.
01/04/2021 19:52:45 1 0
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Article says they are still studying data on AZ. Just Pfizer has reported first
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01/04/2021 14:33:40 106 3
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the flu vaccines are not 100% effective. none is. Whichever vaccine an individual has, the overall efficacy within the community should break the back of the pandemic.
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01/04/2021 14:44:45 43 19
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Provided 80%+ of the community take it - too many won't.
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01/04/2021 15:03:06 14 1
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Take up has been much higher than predicted so far - well over 80%
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01/04/2021 15:05:25 16 7
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The take up rate of those offered it so far is about 95%.

The other 5% should not be permitted to stop the rest of us from getting our lives back.
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:44:59 3 1
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The worst side effect from Covid-19 is death , though
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01/04/2021 14:39:00 9 15
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An article about the effectiveness about the Pfizer vaccine with a HYS full of the usual anti-EU comments. It’s become an obsession...
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01/04/2021 14:44:59 11 2
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Could be because the EU has made such a total pigs-ear of their programme.
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01/04/2021 14:50:29 1 1
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No. It's rightwing f-wits as usual.
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01/04/2021 14:45:04 6 8
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Needed to know more is how does the AstraZeneca vaccine do, since that is the one given to most people in the UK.
Read elsewhere about Gibraltar opening up a lot after vaccinating the majority of it's adult population using mainly Pfizer vaccine supplied by the UK. It may seem strange that the UK provides the more expensive vaccine to a tax haven. Generous of UK taxpayers to say the least.
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01/04/2021 14:33:02 127 48
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THANK YOU UK FOR THE VACCINES

SAVING US ALL ????
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01/04/2021 14:45:07 54 87
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It's not a nationalist thing!
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01/04/2021 14:53:53 38 23
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Why not?

We're so quick to criticise this country even for events hundreds of years ago, so why shouldn't we - just for once - celebrate our success?

I'm sick and tired of this great nation, that has given so much to the world over the centuries, being relentlessly dragged through the mud and endlessly disparaged.

Especially by Guardian wielding liberals in this country.
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01/04/2021 15:48:35 3 5
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no, it's a patriotic thing. Credit where credit is due
01/04/2021 18:36:35 0 0
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Maybe but given the EU's actions...its a shame the Germans don't have a word for schadenfreude
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01/04/2021 14:43:19 21 4
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If what carries on? Trying to protect the nation sensibly and cautiously in the midst of a global pandemic?
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01/04/2021 14:45:31 3 3
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These folk only care about a pint & a haircut. Shallow.
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01/04/2021 14:49:46 4 5
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You only care about being a lockdown lover, obviously have you life nicely set up to securely stay in doors indefinitely. Not everyone can afford to be so selfish
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01/04/2021 15:14:28 2 0
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Why is it wrong for some to want a haircut and pint. What about the people that work in these industries don’t they have a right to go back to work and provide for there families
OK. So self admitted liar.

Might want to get your bladder problem looked at too.
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01/04/2021 14:45:33 4 4
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Off topic AND personal abuse!

PMSL again!
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:45:35 3 0
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Will, you don't understand the first bit of the science - it's the virus that hijacks our cells to produce copies, not the Pfizer vaccine. Stop doing "your own research" on Facebook and Youtube.
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01/04/2021 14:36:11 8 33
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The top comments here are by those that hid under a desk from bird flu and believe the government and msm. It's truly saddening how easily people are brainwashed.
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01/04/2021 14:45:45 11 0
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Maybe you just don't want to face up to reality?
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01/04/2021 14:39:34 25 9
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My arm ached for the whole day after, but my mental health has improved as I no longer worry about standing next to the other people in my household.
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01/04/2021 14:45:59 3 0
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You should still be cautious!
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01/04/2021 15:35:39 0 3
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Bore off
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01/04/2021 14:46:26 27 2
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Really positive results, well done and thanks to all involved particularly all those volunteers to trial it on our behalf.
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01/04/2021 14:31:47 891 56
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Well done to Pfizer and to AstraZeneca . Both companies have been outstanding , especially AZ who are supplying at cost to millions. The world should be forever thankful for that.

Pfizer deserves good publicity and AZ deserves far better treatment than has been dished out to it.
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xlr
01/04/2021 14:46:32 37 48
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AZ deserved better than to be used as a political football.
Researchers like Oxford team didn't deserve to have UKRI halved and EU funding not replaced.
Or pharma workers the redundancy that awaits them when vaccine production ramps down and there's barriers to the EU market.
Or NHS workers 1% pay rises.
Or police attacked for keeping us safe.

Been a pretty crappy epidemic, all things considered.
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Vid
01/04/2021 15:08:52 7 0
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What would make a nice pandemic then? Free cakes???
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01/04/2021 14:44:09 6 8
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EU exported 14 million doses of vaccine. UK exported none. US Govt banned all exports of vaccine. How do you think the rest of the world feels about that?
Europe hit by a wave of Kent B.117 variant so infection came from UK who didn't have sufficient control to prevent spread and had to have a draconian lockdown.
PEOPLE DIE OF THIS all you do is crow. Until the world is vaccinated no-one's safe.
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01/04/2021 14:46:55 4 3
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The UK exports components of all vaccines all over the world, particularly those for the PB vaccine in the EU

Isn't online education & learning fun!
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01/04/2021 14:46:58 3 0
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Pfizer Tested their vaccine in Brazil on over 20'000 people what are the % of reinfection there ?
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01/04/2021 15:51:53 1 0
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The new P1 variant in Brazil can infect people who had the original virus. We will have to be able to rapidly modify existing vaccines & offer booster shots for a long time unless we can roll out vaccination worldwide fast enough to cut down mutations. I wish I didn't think that viruses usually outpace human responses. The only virus we've ever eradicated is smallpox.
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01/04/2021 14:39:29 9 19
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Vaccine supply for first jabs is now a major issue in the UK. A shame that the government's industrial strategy did not support vaccine production in the UK over the past ten years
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01/04/2021 14:47:19 4 1
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That is not true. There is a short term fluctuation to levels that six months ago were unthinkable. Fake news.
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:47:34 1 0
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You don't read books then?
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01/04/2021 14:34:16 105 43
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Pity the BBC wont churn out supportive data on the AZ jab to counteract the "crap" being bandied around our EU friends and allies ....
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01/04/2021 14:47:34 10 5
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To be fair, the BBC have been excellent in countering the utter nonsense coming from the EU regarding AstraZeneca vaccines.

Granted, if it were the UK criticising the vaccine then they'd be running 24hr bulletins calling for people to be put on spikes in addition to throwing the facts out there, but let's give the Beeb credit where it's due.
JWG
01/04/2021 19:49:22 0 0
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Wait until you get a blood clot then come and tell us about nonsense
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01/04/2021 14:47:41 15 4
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France and Germany will stop using it now
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01/04/2021 14:49:14 7 1
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Immature Micron is just writing his speech ..................
01/04/2021 20:41:04 0 0
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Lenny a lot of the problem i feel is brexiteers pushing a narrative to try and keep anger at the 27 high. See your comment

I say this because where other countries like the USA and Canada haven't approved it, no one says anything in the UK press and HYS, but they do steam into the 27, especially Germany and France with the emphasis on "sour grapes"
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01/04/2021 14:39:29 9 19
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Vaccine supply for first jabs is now a major issue in the UK. A shame that the government's industrial strategy did not support vaccine production in the UK over the past ten years
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01/04/2021 14:47:43 1 2
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The next issue is going to be can we afford to keep vaccinating every adult every year..
'T-cells can kill the cells in the body that have been hijacked and turned into coronavirus factories. '
Considering that the Pfizer 'vaccine' works by converting our own cells to become 'virus factories' (our cells are being genetically re-programmed to create the Spike Protein') isn't this very worrying? That this 'vaccine' creates the conditions for our own T-Cells to attack our cells? WTAF!!
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01/04/2021 14:48:07 0 2
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I mean, this is exactly how both Pfizer and Moderna claim their 'vaccines' work. AZ works as a vector vaccine, while the Pfizer and Moderna use a new, and untested (on humans) experimental mRNA technology. Wonder how many people this autumn/winter will test positive/need hospitalization after having two doses of either vaccine? Are the so called 'booster' doses actually the 2nd jabs? Who knows?
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01/04/2021 14:31:47 891 56
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Well done to Pfizer and to AstraZeneca . Both companies have been outstanding , especially AZ who are supplying at cost to millions. The world should be forever thankful for that.

Pfizer deserves good publicity and AZ deserves far better treatment than has been dished out to it.
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01/04/2021 14:48:08 19 116
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Pfizer- Biontech is the best. Let's be honest. There is nothing wrong about AZ, just not fantastic IMO.
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01/04/2021 14:51:11 43 17
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This is an April fool joke right?
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01/04/2021 15:41:18 2 9
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Andddddd quickly down voted by the feral patriots , who see anything other than nationalistic brown nosing as an attack on the country. No wonder its so hard for this country to progress and improve with selfish people like that.
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01/04/2021 14:28:16 6 10
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Good news, time to start to get back to normal. Should be no more restrictions after June 21st, time to live again, have fun again etc.
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01/04/2021 14:48:11 9 0
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Only if you're foolish - and many are!
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01/04/2021 15:33:07 0 0
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Clearly you don’t want your life back then and are help to have restrictions
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01/04/2021 14:48:13 204 18
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Can we take a moment to just consider the news that 50% of people don't know COVID symptoms?! Honestly, what is wrong with people!
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01/04/2021 14:50:54 193 28
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I read this today and agree. Astonishing. But, sadly, that's what we seem to have become in Britain (i.e. thick and selfish).
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01/04/2021 14:54:37 14 7
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You really just have to laugh sometimes.
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01/04/2021 15:00:32 8 64
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It's not people who are the problem it's the government who keep changing the advice.
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01/04/2021 15:07:42 30 8
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I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that a reasonable amount of those 50% DO know the Covid symptoms, but are playing ignorant. After all, if you don't know how can you be expected to get tested and lose money from not going to work?
Removing yourself from work the moment you suspect possible Covid may be the right thing to do - but too many people cannot afford to put themselves there
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01/04/2021 15:45:29 11 1
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One wonders what Insta/TikTok parallel universe these people inhabit!?
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01/04/2021 15:48:52 6 1
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Consider how stupid the average person is, and then reflect that many are even more stupid than that!!
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01/04/2021 16:31:00 3 1
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you really believe these polls???
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01/04/2021 16:49:03 3 1
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Of course they know the symptoms, just fake, sensationalist journalism!
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01/04/2021 16:52:10 3 0
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What do you expect when for 50 years we have had an "education" system that ignores common sense and real life and just focuses on passing exams. We are told every year grades have increased yet year on year it is blatantly obvious that in so many walks of life people are getting dumber and dumber. The ability to think, reason and work it out is dying fast and unless we change we are ........
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01/04/2021 17:08:01 3 0
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I find it frankly unbelievable that 50% of people still don't know the main Covid symptoms. I suspect a flawed study if it came to that conclusion.
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01/04/2021 17:13:45 2 0
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People forget society is made up of people with a broad range of IQ's with the average I think around 100. I guess a large proportion of the 50% are people with IQ's below 100.
01/04/2021 18:13:47 0 0
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They are stupid or uneducated , probably both, and the product of the broken society we live in. Why can we not be like Austria or Switzerland where the people are educated and well mannered ?
01/04/2021 18:36:14 0 1
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They're just making stuff up now. Britain not racist, hah. Johnson has a tart for 4 years behind his cancer stricken wife's back and gives her 125k of public money, deemed not in the public interest, hahaha. Police not guilty of brutality at a women's vigil - investigation & report by the police.

A blind man can see this is social engineering to get the public blaming each other for the 150k dead
01/04/2021 18:44:47 0 0
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I have my doubts as to the veracity of that figure as it is far from a binary analysis.
01/04/2021 18:47:47 1 0
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Think of how stupid the average person is and then think half of them are more stupid than that.

George Carlin
01/04/2021 20:32:43 0 0
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50% of people couldn't point to where they live on a globe. Shame that 50% also go for political jobs.
01/04/2021 21:05:55 0 0
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I thought perhaps it was an April Fool's joke - but no!
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01/04/2021 14:48:17 105 32
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Dont want a vaccine? Fine, just sign this waiver please stating that you wont pop up in A&E with covid symptoms. Thats if you're bright enough to actually recognise them. Apparently half of you aren't lol
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01/04/2021 15:45:29 22 90
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Want a vaccine? Fine, just sign this waiver please stating that you wont pop up in A&E with vaccine side effect symptoms.
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01/04/2021 17:43:52 3 4
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Absolutely fine if you don't want a vaccine, but don't take an ICU bad if you catch covid & get seriously unwell. That's fair isn't it.
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01/04/2021 17:57:17 2 6
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I had the vaccine but also behaved responsibly and am not responsible for 125k deaths in the UK by selfishly using air travel once it was clear a dangerous virus was on the loose.

Can I ban those who've used air travel since 1 Feb 20 from having NHS treatment too?

They caused the problem, not the people who didn't use frivolous air travel and don't want to be forced to be injected with a drug.
Ed
01/04/2021 21:22:24 1 2
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I got a spare Pfizer jab in January.

20 idiots who attend the dialysis clinic that my brother attends refused to be vaccinated.

We shut the country down to protect these fools.
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01/04/2021 14:48:22 11 8
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Would it be possible to run more covid-19 articles BBC ?

Not like anything else is going on, NHS privatisation, offshore tax-havens and so on - totally not happening.
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01/04/2021 14:49:25 3 4
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British exports that have plummeted this year
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01/04/2021 14:50:10 0 2
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Or indeed WW3 that's already started
or maybe something related to Bozo Johnson giving public money to his mistress. Nothing to see here Removed
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01/04/2021 15:26:41 0 0
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Sorry, not allowed as it may involve criticism of our dear leader. Careful now, or you’ll be causing a nuisance and will be detained.
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01/04/2021 14:40:51 8 5
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I disagree. I find your lying and name calling really dull.
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01/04/2021 14:48:32 2 2
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I find it dull that people are completely unable to understand percentages and the difference between vaccination numbers and antibody numbers but hey ho.
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01/04/2021 14:43:12 21 10
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Laughing all the way to a healthy profit to ensure excellent R&D funding and capability for future drugs, I think you'll find.
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01/04/2021 14:48:59 1 0
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That's the argument that Trump gave for refusing to make U.S. drug firms reduce prices for standard drugs like insulin, which is several times the price in the U.S. than our NHS pays for it.
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01/04/2021 14:38:21 49 20
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Now that Covid is 91% preventable will those refusing the vaccine be at the back of the queue for any NHS treatment for Covid related problems such as long Covid ?
Only is the same logic applies to fatties Removed
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01/04/2021 14:51:46 23 3
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Same question to the smokers, drinkers, fatties....etc.
02/04/2021 06:57:54 0 0
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Its preventable by a patient having a common cold, if you have the common cold virus in your body you can not catch Covid19. Oxfords building blocks for their vaccine was a Chimpanzee cold/flu virus. Not sure injecting people with a diluted version of this is such a great and wonderful thing
02/04/2021 08:09:57 0 0
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We have to treat all people with equal respect or we get fascism