Covid: Don't book holiday yet, government warns
10/02/2021 | news | politics | 4,934
Boris Johnson urges people to "be patient", after the transport secretary says summer breaks are in doubt.
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10/02/2021 11:54:59 9 13
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Locked in the the UK then!!!
But isn't that where the will of the people took us in 2016. Surely this is a Brexiteers wet dream Removed
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10/02/2021 11:55:55 432 62
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We have to return to normality at some point, and if our so far brilliant vaccine rollout continues we’ll get there. If immunity doesn’t last we can adjust the vaccine and give boosters in future like with flu.
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10/02/2021 12:00:04 670 356
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Accepted but there will be no holidays abroad for at least 12months, why is so difficult for folk to understand. People do not NEED a holiday. What we NEED is for this pandemic to be over. Sooner people realise that the quicker it will be over, forget holidays!!
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10/02/2021 12:07:43 79 5
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we knind of need the rest of the world to get mass immunity too
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10/02/2021 12:14:56 24 37
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Unlike with the flu you need the whole populationgiven boosters! It'll be like painting the forth rd bridge, You'll finish and start again. Year in year out. Utter chaos!
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10/02/2021 12:17:12 22 13
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Yes,but not yet,we don't want another lockdown!
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10/02/2021 12:22:20 145 25
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If it's not over by May, by when 32m people vaccinated that make up 99.5% of deaths, in a disease where only 0.5% who catch it die anyway, then, I'm afraid it will never be over.
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nic
10/02/2021 12:21:29 22 5
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Exactly
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10/02/2021 12:39:18 10 35
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Brilliant vaccine program haha, most people loaded up with a vaccine that hardly works against the new variant. Most other countries not giving our main vaccine to the over 65s. Sounds like a rushed vaccine roll out in which we'll still be under restrictions long after everybody is vaccinated.
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10/02/2021 12:43:36 5 32
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The "brilliant vaccine rollout" would indeed be brilliant if it actually worked...
i fear the false protection will make people less cautious and another walloping spike is on its way when we lessen restrictions.
heres the thing. my dad is 89, having had the jab does that mean i can take him to the boozer?... safely... absolutely not.
10/02/2021 13:29:24 7 5
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The vacination program should mean that things should start to open up in the UK very soon.... However, the sage behavioural psychologists etc. will try to keep this going throughout 2021... personally, I think it will end on the very first warm day we get... Then those who want to hide behind the sofa can at their own cost whilst the rest of us get on with our lives.
10/02/2021 13:30:54 0 3
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Booster jabs will take at least 6 months to cover everyone. The large vaccine outlets, such as Epsom, will have reverted to their normal use.
10/02/2021 13:36:04 4 4
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Not quite. It doesn't work like that. Theres something called acceptable risk -8/9,k p.a. dead flu, 10 ish dead on roads per day. Flu ,vaccine is adjusted due to fact that enough people get flu to have a cohort to examine. Its similar for roads enough die to have a "sample" so adjustments may be made. In essence safest thing to do is nothing, no travel, no interaction, nothing. Brilliant idea.
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10/02/2021 11:56:29 146 58
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Not rocket science. Who in their right mind......
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10/02/2021 12:08:54 122 84
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Book now and you'll probably get a very cheap summer holiday. If it gets cancelled due to travel restrictions still being in force at the time you'll get a refund (even if it takes a while). Leave it until later once there's more certainty and you'll pay at least double! ...not rocket science!
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10/02/2021 12:09:09 11 10
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Me!
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10/02/2021 18:16:16 3 1
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Sadly about half the population ??
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10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
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Staycation. Boost the UK ????
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10/02/2021 12:00:21 297 499
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but let's be honest, they're not great are they
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lwj
10/02/2021 12:00:22 56 90
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No thanks.
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Jax
10/02/2021 12:01:19 71 88
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Boost the Uk with the redundancy of hundreds of thousands working in the aviation industry. Good bye to all our airlines and freight by road and rail only. Global Britain is a distant joke.
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10/02/2021 12:01:29 24 16
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Not allowed.
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10/02/2021 12:02:52 82 3
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then sit back and wait for the complaints from UK beauty spots about the influx of lager louts.
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10/02/2021 12:06:06 101 27
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Staycation means stay at home, not book a domestic holiday.
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10/02/2021 12:07:02 71 66
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Agreed.

But sadly; there are many who, curiously, don't feel they have had a holiday unless it involves spreading jet-fuel fumes across the skies.
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10/02/2021 12:09:10 83 8
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As was constantly demonstrated during last year, people just do not know how to behave. I would prefer that the loud mouth drunks that chuck litter everywhere went abroad, (selfish of me I know). I am completely put off from going to any UK beauty spots this year.
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Jim
10/02/2021 12:09:19 97 10
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Have a vacation in the UK, but please respect the countryside / coast, and take you rubbish home!

Also, don't use disposable bbq in any fire risk area and be considerate to others
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10/02/2021 12:09:28 57 11
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Staycation is when you are not going anywhere. Home nor abroad. You stay at your very home doing DIY for example. You will boost your local Screwfix.
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10/02/2021 12:10:00 17 3
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Lots of gorgeous places to visit in the UK but don't have the advertising power of the foreign tour business so people much rather pay thousands to stand on a hill in the southern hemisphere and go 'wow great hill' than do it here, plus we all love sun, I know we shouldn't love sun, but we do!!!
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10/02/2021 12:11:34 22 11
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My main reason for travel is to get into decent weather. Not going to waste money on travel when there's no guarantee of it.
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10/02/2021 12:13:44 6 4
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Except the recommendation is to early to book home or abroad.
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10/02/2021 12:14:26 18 7
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Which part of

"People in the UK should not be booking holidays at home"

did you not understand?
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10/02/2021 12:17:17 1 8
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Not today thank you.
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10/02/2021 12:21:27 14 5
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Staycation

Means stay at home

Not holidaying in the UK
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10/02/2021 12:23:59 6 3
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Like last year? It wasnt easy to book anywhere up especially if you were going to Cornwall or the Lakes. The problem is we dont have the capacity and when we do it is expensive compared to abroad.
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10/02/2021 12:28:49 2 4
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Have you seen the weather forecast?
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10/02/2021 12:30:16 6 3
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Rip off Britain, watch all the hotels and B&B'S bump the prices up for summer
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10/02/2021 12:26:15 6 3
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It's more expensive 3 days in uk with kids than it is to go abroad!
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10/02/2021 12:31:15 6 3
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@"Staycation"

I like your optimism, but with the SA variant already present in the UK, and the AZ vaccine only 10% effective in relation to it, it seems inevitable that lockdown is going to drag on through summer.

Current vaccine program ise just to protect people and the NHS at this moment

Ease lockdown, and the SA variant will take over

2021 is gonna be 2020 part II.
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10/02/2021 12:32:45 1 5
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Great only for the MPs and the rich, will be £400 for a night in Cornwall.
Then you have all the two faced Brits and media that will go crazy as soon as they see a full beach.
If your idea of a good staycation is a 2 grand weeks long holiday in a caravan in Skegness, crack on
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10/02/2021 11:58:09 18 23
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Mr Shapps, yet another in the long list of incompetent buffoons masquerading as an MP, at least he is a marginal improvement on his predecessor, Failing Grayling.
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jon
10/02/2021 12:02:17 12 6
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Try not to make comments personal. His elderly father, Tony Shapps has caught covid within the NHS and he’s not been able to visit him for two months.
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10/02/2021 12:02:23 5 5
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Doing a better job then knee bender.
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10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
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Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
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Bob
10/02/2021 12:01:11 17 4
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Considering the largest tourist-carrying airlines are the ones that charge £10 for a ticket, I'm not sure sure your view on who is flying about for a holiday quite matches reality.
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10/02/2021 12:01:37 0 1
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This isn't the only thing the government has said.
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10/02/2021 12:02:01 7 5
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*CORRECTION* Middle class champagne socialists desperate to go to their second mansion in the Spanish sun. Champagne socialists like Rita Ora with her private restaurant parties. Champagne socialist footballers with haircut in a closed barbers. Take a little closer look to your own lot before spouting off.
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10/02/2021 12:05:03 4 5
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Really wasnt the normal middle classes voting for this Tory Government. The working class being duped into thinking that this lot had their best interests at heart - is the reason we have this confusion of weasels running the country.
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10/02/2021 12:05:27 9 2
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Shoulder chip alert!
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10/02/2021 12:12:52 3 1
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Sour grapes.
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10/02/2021 11:58:48 7 11
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Well very true but get some guts and announce the quarantine measures will be for the rest of the year and for all travellers of any part of the world.

So easy to fix these stupid people’s hopes and expectations, with a dose of reality of how the future should be for all time. This is not the only virus out there. Fast travel kills people, and economies. We never see a disease in time otherwise.
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10/02/2021 12:01:41 6 10
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And then there are no airlines airports or holiday companies left brilliant idea
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10/02/2021 12:29:01 1 0
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Exactly look at New Zealand and Australia once you start hotel quarantine there is no way out. These variants ain't going anywhere and will probably get more.
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10/02/2021 11:58:50 27 26
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£10000 fine or 10 years for lying about travel, cabinet post for lying about Brexit
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10/02/2021 12:06:11 14 8
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Always one muppet
10/02/2021 13:43:46 0 3
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You really need to get over it........ time to stop crying !
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lwj
10/02/2021 11:58:52 14 33
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The very thought of being trapped in the UK would fill me with horror.
The very thought of you being here fills me with horror too Removed
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10/02/2021 12:00:15 15 4
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Then go and live in a different country if you hate the UK so much.
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10/02/2021 12:04:17 10 2
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Then clear off and don't come back. Try South Sudan. Nice and warm there.
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10/02/2021 12:05:52 5 2
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Bye ??
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10/02/2021 12:14:00 7 0
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Bye Bye.
10/02/2021 15:02:17 1 0
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Ta Ta then!
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Jax
10/02/2021 11:59:02 10 10
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Fine for those that do not derive their livelihood from aviation. If you do, then you are losing so much more. Career, that cost £100k in training costs, home and massive impact on spouse and children. None of our airlines will survive this without a massive bailout from government.
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10/02/2021 12:03:58 7 7
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Flying will need to be hugely curtailed. So no bad thing if this virus does the job for us. Quarantine for every trip must be the normality of cross border travel, as it always should have been. Or the next one might be a real killer. Fast world travel is lethal to humanity.
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10/02/2021 12:05:57 1 6
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Life is about choice.. those with careers in air travel chose unwisely. travelling by air is unsustainable in any case. Something would have inevitably stopped it.. its just this has come sooner rather than later.
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10/02/2021 11:59:06 60 46
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Yeah, this is still about a virus. Lockdown for years......variant this, variant that. 99.7% survival rate. You've got more chance of dying on your way to get your "vaccine" than you have of getting the rona and dying.
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10/02/2021 12:01:16 3 9
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Hopefully.
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10/02/2021 12:04:12 12 4
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If there was more than a 0.3% chance of dying on the way to get the vaccine, then why haven't tens of thousands died so far?
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10/02/2021 12:05:31 3 7
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This 99% rubbish is becoming boring from you lot
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10/02/2021 12:09:46 5 2
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No you haven't.
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10/02/2021 12:21:50 5 6
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Yes, the survival rate of Covid is high, but 10-15% of people need to go in to hospital and 5% become critically ill. That has a knock on effect. Lack of beds, medicine, staff, treatment for OTHER diseases etc. You may be more "likely" to die getting hit by a car on the way to the vax centre, but if covid isn't under control, there will be nobody to treat you in time in A&E, or even get you there!
10/02/2021 14:30:54 0 0
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You must be an awful driver to crash >3 in 1000 journeys ;-)
But seriously, your detractors know you meant "for people not at high risk".
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10/02/2021 11:59:13 7 15
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‘An international system for checking’ otherwise know as a passport not passport, passport
But don’t call it a passport
Because it isn’t blue
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10/02/2021 12:15:50 3 0
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So funny....not.
Nicola will be going on one long holiday very soon ?? Removed
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10/02/2021 12:04:42 51 18
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#rent free
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10/02/2021 12:27:23 6 6
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fingers crossed
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10/02/2021 12:29:26 15 16
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Is the assumprtion here that you mean Nicola Sturgeon - nice bit of diversion there, find an enemy for little englanders, point the finger and chuck abuse.
Anything to divert from the disaster this govt. has made of the pandemic - oh this has been around for a while, best close the gate after all the horses have bolted and put a nice soundbite prison sentence in for the hangem and flogem brigade!
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xlr
10/02/2021 12:58:38 4 0
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Seems unlikely.
Why?

Did her failed policies, dither and inability to understand the virus cost over 100,000 British lives?

Did she allow Cheltenham races to go ahead in March?

Or try to "save" Christmas by putting London into tier 2 in December, putting wealth before health?
Roy
10/02/2021 13:32:03 3 2
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Hope so !!!
10/02/2021 13:48:36 1 1
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Unionist spin doctors on again,
10/02/2021 14:51:18 1 1
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..with blojo and hangkokkk too hopefully
10/02/2021 15:01:18 0 0
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Seriously deluded if you really think this.
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10/02/2021 11:57:27 51 42
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The COVID spreading idiots seem to be back out again wanting to continue spreading the virus again, selfish idiots
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D
10/02/2021 12:17:27 13 21
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You seem a little agitated. Maybe go lie down and don't fret about people with different views than your own.
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10/02/2021 12:42:43 4 3
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What’s wrong with wanting to go back to normal we have had two many lockdowns
10/02/2021 17:11:29 0 2
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I went abroad 4 times last year and I've nver had covid so i didn't spread it.
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10/02/2021 11:59:41 391 162
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It shouldn't be necessary for the government to tell people it's to early to book holidays for this year, common sense should tell them that. Just shows stupidity is alive and well and of course the I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW culture which seems to dominate many peoples thinking it well and truly imbedded in the UK and I suspect other western countries.
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10/02/2021 12:02:08 153 72
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"Western Countries", i.e. countries where capitalism dominates, have this system of making the population want everything for themselves, others come second.
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Rob
10/02/2021 12:04:46 27 5
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Yes - unfortunately common sense would appear to be a rarer commodity than PPE in the UK these days.
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10/02/2021 12:04:51 29 8
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Totally agree. Why dont the government just ban international travel to the end of year. I like my holidays too, but it would be safer to restrict travel. Stop building up peoples hopes of travel.
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10/02/2021 12:04:58 22 16
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British people are idiots. Still going through their 300 toilet rolls.
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10/02/2021 12:14:50 14 15
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I don't want my holiday now - not least because it's illegal.

What I am doing is booking my June holiday now while demand is low therefore prices are low - with reputable firms you have nothing to lose because they have a 100% C19 money back guarantee.

Stupidity is waiting until, say, April to book your June holiday when everyone else is doing the same as you will be paying more
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10/02/2021 12:16:11 7 2
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It should not be that hard, except we still see thousands using airlines daily , which fuels others to think what’s good for the goose.
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10/02/2021 12:16:58 16 2
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Since when has common sense been shown during this pandemic.
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ROY
10/02/2021 12:33:36 3 2
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Western cultures you mean democracies I believe.
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10/02/2021 12:34:53 4 2
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Agreed; it shouldn't be necessary.

But if the behaviour of a small but significant sub-set of the UK public throughout this pandemic has taught us anything; it's that some are incapable or unwilling to do the sensible thing unless it is robustly enforced upon them.

The government is beginning to wake up to this now, with 10 year prison sentences. Some will probably even be undeterred by that.
Moron. Get back to shielding in your little box. Removed
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10/02/2021 12:37:30 2 2
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"Common Sense" - yeah, that's been in great evidence throughout the pandemic - NOT.... Some people are simply too ignorant or too selfish.
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10/02/2021 12:54:10 3 2
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Moist bed alert...
10/02/2021 13:23:54 2 0
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Last year a lot of people postponed their holiday until 2021 i,e these are not new bookings. This was because the government said that by 2021 we should have a vaccine and then be able to go back to normality......they have done the first part but the 2nd seems a galaxy light year away.
10/02/2021 13:24:53 6 1
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It's not stupid to want to go abroad to sort out you Dad's stuff after he died abroad. Wonder if you'd like to be called stupid if you needed to do that, eh??
10/02/2021 13:51:27 3 1
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I've been vaccinated. Losing liberty was never meant to be permanent. I'm not willing to stand for it any longer.
10/02/2021 14:17:59 2 1
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Don't book a holiday then, I'm sure the rest of us don't care what you do or think. Btw just because you don't agree with the actions of others that does not make them stupid.
Ian
10/02/2021 14:36:14 1 0
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exactly the reason we've got as many deaths as we have, people not caring about anybody else, social distancing, what's that I hear you ask....

joking aside, the virus is to blame, we know that, but, the people of the UK need to take a long look at themselves.
10/02/2021 15:06:07 1 1
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A week ago they told us we would be back to normal in this country by summer, now its next year!!
Believe them now if you want to, I don't believe a word they say anymore.
10/02/2021 15:56:17 1 1
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Some of us might just like to go abroad to meet a grandson who is 1 and we haven’t met yet! It’s not all about holidays!
10/02/2021 16:10:31 1 0
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Many people are not booking holidays abroad, they are merely trying to take the holiday that they booked at the end of 2019. And now face either losing their deposit if they refuse to travel or paying an additional c£480 per person for all of the test the government are insisting on.
10/02/2021 16:21:19 0 1
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Agreed. Personally hang onto every word Hancock says as I know he is omnipotent and wise to boot. He guides my thinking and actions. I am so glad his there to give me sage like advice on important things like, when to open a window. Or Van Tam telling me. If you have take away coffee you will have ‘ blood on your hands’
Really helpful guidance.
10/02/2021 16:43:01 1 1
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I've been waiting 45 years to travel and I'm not going to hide behind the settee waiting to die.
10/02/2021 16:43:40 1 0
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Yes. follow the transport secretary. You wouldn't want to book a holiday to Spain and have to scamper home 2 days later when the travel corridor is pulled. Especially when the transport secretary previously told how public not to book a holiday
10/02/2021 17:06:17 1 0
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Totally agree. Countries like Australia which I have seen comments on some of these chats went through 3+months of lock down and far more severe than the UK. Yes Government has not managed this well BUT, joe public has not either & it is clearly evident we could not have survived an Aus, NZ or other country type lock down. I'm fed up with COVID but also with those moaners - whinging whining poms
10/02/2021 17:34:59 0 0
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Go East instead.
10/02/2021 18:42:54 1 0
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Nothing wrong with booking early but using common sense to ensure a cancellation plan is in place. Obviously, I'm talking about a staycation. Anybody wishing to go abroad should stay there!
10/02/2021 23:25:32 0 0
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It may well be stupid to book or want the extras of normal life right now. Trouble is a lot of peoples jobs and businesses depend on this I want it now culture.
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Bob
10/02/2021 11:59:55 18 7
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There is a reason Boris said that providing the vaccine rollout goes well, has the efficacy they claim to have and that mutant variants don't run riot we can have a GREAT BRITISH summer and not a Costa del Summer.

And regardless of measures we have or may not have in the summer, many other countries have their own
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10/02/2021 12:00:00 14 19
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Go against the crowd and book NOW while prices are low.

All reputable firms are offering a money back guarantee so nothing to lose.

Conversely you can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as the Government confirms an ease in restrictions then the law of supply and demand means prices will shoot up!
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10/02/2021 12:03:33 5 5
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Already done, Got a 25% discount on flight to Portugal but guaranteed refund. Worst case I am loaning the airline (BA) some money interest free to help them stay afloat.
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10/02/2021 12:03:49 9 2
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Or just not be so self entitled, you simply must have a holiday during a global pandemic, with the added bonus you could pick up wonderful new variants and help spread them around..

And no, I haven't been on holiday since the pandemic began, but yes I miss it like you wouldn't believe, but I have a responsibility to my fellow man to stop the virus spreading
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10/02/2021 12:10:49 1 1
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Guarantee only works if they are still in business. And you've booked when government advice is no travel so insurance won't pay either. Your money your loss
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10/02/2021 12:00:01 15 14
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Is Grant Shapps (or family/acquaintances) shorting travel company shares again?
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Jax
10/02/2021 12:06:31 8 3
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No. He is initiating the death of British aviation.
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10/02/2021 12:12:50 0 0
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By saying "again", have you just libelled him?
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10/02/2021 11:55:55 432 62
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We have to return to normality at some point, and if our so far brilliant vaccine rollout continues we’ll get there. If immunity doesn’t last we can adjust the vaccine and give boosters in future like with flu.
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10/02/2021 12:00:04 670 356
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Accepted but there will be no holidays abroad for at least 12months, why is so difficult for folk to understand. People do not NEED a holiday. What we NEED is for this pandemic to be over. Sooner people realise that the quicker it will be over, forget holidays!!
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10/02/2021 12:21:49 126 64
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Speak for yourself. Having worked throughout the whole pandemic and seen my NHS friends jetting off on holiday (and captain Tom too) I think it's a bit rich expecting those who have put up with the restrictions to forego a break.
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nic
10/02/2021 12:21:54 81 53
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We do need travel. What’s the point in living like this. Death is a fact of life baba
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10/02/2021 12:25:50 57 80
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Easy to answer your question: 52% voted to be poorer 4 years ago and some (25%) still haven't realised they were wrong. 'People' often aren't very bright. Throw in a dose of me,me,me and you have your question answered.
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10/02/2021 12:26:31 25 5
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One doesnt follow after another, that's the problem. There could just as easily be an outbreak at Center Parcs
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10/02/2021 12:30:16 9 9
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The great dictator speaks
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10/02/2021 12:35:51 32 14
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What about depression, suicides and job losses can you help with that please ? As a holiday for some would be a way out of this mass prison that we are living in.
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10/02/2021 12:36:07 7 15
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Rutland3 common sense spoken. Well done.
Moron. Removed
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10/02/2021 12:51:23 25 9
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Not everybody is going abroad for holidays. Haven’t seen our daughter in Canada for over 2years and never seen our Granddaughter who was born in May, if we don’t get across this year she will be over 2 before we see her
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10/02/2021 12:52:28 23 10
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People need what they need, not what you think they need. Why should anyone follow what you think should happen. Freedom should rule,
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10/02/2021 13:09:54 8 7
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it will never be go,so you are saying no more holidays,i WILL holiday
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10/02/2021 13:11:30 18 10
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You couldn't be more wrong. People do need a holiday, such things are why we bother living in the first place.
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10/02/2021 13:18:02 17 3
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As a matter of interest, what do you mean by "NEED the pandemic to be over"? No virus? No deaths? No infections? If thats the case then I think you will find that there will be no holidays ever...Equally, stopping international travel wont stop mutations.
10/02/2021 13:18:21 16 9
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Absolute nonsense. People do need holidays and they need freedom. The virus poses very little health risk to the vast majority of people, the remainder should stay locked up if they wish, including yourself if you have worries.
JWG
10/02/2021 13:20:17 5 4
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Speak for yourself and preferably not on here
10/02/2021 13:22:54 16 4
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Some of us need to go abroad for other reasons. My Dad died abroad in January. Watching his funeral on Zoom was not a bundle of laughs, but we do need to go to where he lived to sort out his finances and other stuff with his widow. You seem to be saying that we shouldn't be allowed to do that, which is nonsense
10/02/2021 13:24:18 9 2
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There will be holidays abroad this year, however they want expectations lowered.

Remember holidays were allowed before the vaccine project and all the at risk groups are likely to be jabbed by the start of May.

You may feel the NEED to be negative but why not try looking ahead with a positive mindset??
10/02/2021 13:27:40 7 4
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You need to do one! and stop telling other people what to do you. Sanctimonious Fool!
Ian
10/02/2021 13:29:24 1 3
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"Accepted but there will be no holidays abroad for at least 12months" I don't think you can say that with any certainty. May/June I reckon for certain countries.
Jax
10/02/2021 13:29:26 4 3
bbc
There is not a single british airline that is going to survive 12 more months of this.
10/02/2021 13:32:56 5 5
bbc
Well said there is a big difference between need and want ... but selfish don’t seem to be able to understand this ...
10/02/2021 13:38:49 2 6
bbc
Thank you. The voice of reason is now on the ascendency on these pages. The views of the privileged and "entitled" are becoming drowned out thankfully.
20
10/02/2021 12:00:10 127 15
bbc
Lets hope that the roll out continues at a pace. It is the young though who will suffer here, as if they are last in line, it may be many months before they can travel. The roll out is something to be very proud of. Well done to all of those individuals involved. We owe you a huge amount of gratitude
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lwj
10/02/2021 12:01:57 144 192
bbc
Yes and the young have lost EU freedom of movement too.
51
10/02/2021 12:03:37 45 34
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It's the young prolonging lockdown with their 300 scally illegal raves
394
10/02/2021 12:28:21 0 3
bbc
'At pace' (hate that expression) in the UK (the bit we've got right) but unless your hols are in Israel or UAE...
Can you imagine the hatred if that proves to be the case?

First brexit destroys the economy and takes away so many chances in life we had that they now wont

Then lockdowns to protect the elderly from a virus really only they are at risk from destroy the economy further

Then they vaccinate the elderly and let them get back to a normal life as the young wallow and suffer further
10/02/2021 14:50:21 1 0
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Thanks to the NHS and local government and not the profiteering crooked private sector.
10/02/2021 15:09:36 2 0
bbc
The young cant legally meet new people of the opposite sex even! Never mind ave a holiday!
10/02/2021 15:49:39 1 0
bbc
Roll out of a vaccine that doesn't stop infection, doesn't stop you feeling ill and requires a booster every year isn't something to be proud of. Why is this virus taking priority over say cancer? Most people catch it in hospital like Captain Tom
10/02/2021 18:32:15 1 0
bbc
If they can't work,they can't afford a holiday.
9
lwj
10/02/2021 11:58:52 14 33
bbc
The very thought of being trapped in the UK would fill me with horror.
The very thought of you being here fills me with horror too Removed
127
10/02/2021 12:09:37 1 6
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"Trapped " and being charged £6 for an ice cream when the sun comes out.
328
10/02/2021 12:23:16 3 0
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You are very welcome to leave. Shut the door.
9
lwj
10/02/2021 11:58:52 14 33
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The very thought of being trapped in the UK would fill me with horror.
22
10/02/2021 12:00:15 15 4
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Then go and live in a different country if you hate the UK so much.
4
10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
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Staycation. Boost the UK ????
23
10/02/2021 12:00:21 297 499
bbc
but let's be honest, they're not great are they
128
10/02/2021 12:09:38 44 30
bbc
What's wrong with being cold and damp under a grey blanket of never ending cloud?
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D
10/02/2021 12:11:52 22 5
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Not if you have no imagination.
191
10/02/2021 12:14:51 6 2
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Why aren't they?
196
10/02/2021 12:12:00 15 9
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A lot better than eating ham egg and chips whilst watching British TV at a half built beach hotel!
420
10/02/2021 12:30:24 5 3
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Better than going to the med to get drunk on cheap wine and beer
454
10/02/2021 12:32:28 3 3
bbc
They'll be getting even worse the more we talk down on ourselves!
514
01
10/02/2021 12:32:33 2 1
bbc
No, not where you go.
4
10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
bbc
Staycation. Boost the UK ????
24
lwj
10/02/2021 12:00:22 56 90
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No thanks.
25
10/02/2021 12:00:54 16 6
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The small NHS card you receive after your jab with manufacturer, batch number and date. Once updated with your second dose should be proof enough. It also includes your name and D of B. Holidays will happen this year, but not as soon as some hope. Me included.
176
10/02/2021 12:13:46 2 1
bbc
That doesn't happen everywhere .. mostly it's done on computers, no cards in Sturgeons Scotland
308
10/02/2021 12:22:04 1 0
bbc
The card is far too easy to copy!
26
10/02/2021 11:59:38 38 23
bbc
Of course its to early, it's still illegal...
201
D
10/02/2021 12:15:15 28 3
bbc
It's illegal to book a holiday?
27
10/02/2021 12:01:00 11 38
bbc
Here we go again! Some power hungry Government lockdown fanatic telling us what to do for our own good! Get the country opened back up for goodness sake!
47
10/02/2021 12:02:56 15 6
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Better still stop being selfish
28
10/02/2021 12:01:03 42 20
bbc
I am desperate for some warmth... but there's no point in trying to get to a country with decent weather until this virus malarky is sorted out.

We do need to get the aviation sector supported, though, or they won't be there once it is safe to come out of our holes. Hang on, the demand is there. Can we find some way to enable them to survive? (The same with all sectors 'on hold' until normality)
366
10/02/2021 12:26:29 44 29
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Noble point Megan but you're onto a loser. Because even if this 'virus malarky' is 'sorted out' (which it won't ever be: just more accepted as a risk to everyday life) the eco movement hate airline travel, almost as much as they hate meat consumption. Greta and the armies brainwashed on constant eco propaganda will ensure that going abroad for holidays will be a memory within a couple of years
521
10/02/2021 12:37:16 1 0
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it a tough one, airlines provide jobs and travel but are massive polluters, so less is good for the environment, which should be of concern to everyone. But demand will continue so new companies will spring up if existing ones fail and we will continue to pollute the planet.
812
10/02/2021 13:01:55 4 0
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Turn the central heating up.
10/02/2021 14:00:30 2 1
bbc
We need to ensure the travel industry pays out for its role encouraging transmission of the virus.
10/02/2021 14:30:07 1 0
bbc
Get a fan they're cheap at screwfix.
10/02/2021 15:44:32 1 0
bbc
New holiday and aviation companies will rise once this is done maybe even with a bit more respect for customers.
6
10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
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Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
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Bob
10/02/2021 12:01:11 17 4
bbc
Considering the largest tourist-carrying airlines are the ones that charge £10 for a ticket, I'm not sure sure your view on who is flying about for a holiday quite matches reality.
11
10/02/2021 11:59:06 60 46
bbc
Yeah, this is still about a virus. Lockdown for years......variant this, variant that. 99.7% survival rate. You've got more chance of dying on your way to get your "vaccine" than you have of getting the rona and dying.
30
10/02/2021 12:01:16 3 9
bbc
Hopefully.
4
10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
bbc
Staycation. Boost the UK ????
31
Jax
10/02/2021 12:01:19 71 88
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Boost the Uk with the redundancy of hundreds of thousands working in the aviation industry. Good bye to all our airlines and freight by road and rail only. Global Britain is a distant joke.
204
10/02/2021 12:15:33 9 2
bbc
great for the environment though. The Green Party will be delighted.
32
10/02/2021 12:01:24 584 224
bbc
It's not the end of the world if you miss put on a holiday this year, getting this virus under control is paramount.
193
10/02/2021 12:15:01 337 443
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It is under control. Cases are back to levels seen in October now and unlike then we have almost all of the most vulnerable groups that make up 90% of deaths vaccinated.
Holidays within the UK should be allowed again within the next few weeks. They do not contribute to a significant amount of the spread of the virus anyway - people are typically holidaying with their household groups or bubbles.
315
nic
10/02/2021 12:21:06 68 67
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Life is not worth living if you just hide away sheepy
346
Ben
10/02/2021 12:25:09 59 10
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That's what people said last year. 'You can wait one year'....
367
10/02/2021 12:26:30 68 76
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Sleep walking into a police state
383
10/02/2021 12:27:11 39 27
bbc
We are all quite well aware of that but we all need something to look forward too
429
10/02/2021 12:30:39 81 32
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It will never be under control.
Have they controlled the common cold? HIV? influenza?
You take the appropriate controls and live your life as you have always done.
You don't baricade yourself in your home until the day you expire waiting for some hope..
449
10/02/2021 12:31:59 62 20
bbc
You may not need a break away from your 4 walls - but many do. Having abided by every restriction during the last year that follows on from a period of family bereavements when holidays were impossible some of us need a break. Think too of supermarket workers and NHS staff in hospitals. Some need a break
472
Ben
10/02/2021 12:33:42 22 3
bbc
I didn't get a holiday last year, so this is the second year potentially without a break. Looks like we might be waiting three years between holidays at least. Meanwhile the rich and famous post on social media their nice trips on private yachts in the med or wintering in Australia.
475
10/02/2021 12:34:01 26 3
bbc
What about people who have a terminal diagnosis - don't they deserve the chance to make the most out of what time remains?
493
10/02/2021 12:35:10 1 8
bbc
Totally agree with you.
559
10/02/2021 12:39:33 21 3
bbc
"It's not the end of the world if you miss put on a holiday this year," (sic)

It's not the end of the world if you miss a holiday in 2022 either.

Nor in 2023.

Nor in 2024, 2025, ......

But it probably makes life no fun for huge numbers of people. Which is OK if you are a curtain twitcher.
679
10/02/2021 12:49:18 10 0
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It has to be a trade off as millions of jobs depend on the hospitality business, another year similar to 2020 and a lot of these jobs will be lost. In 5 years time it will be the economic costs of the pandemic which we will remember as it will still be blighting people’s futures. The sad fact is the average of a Covid victim is 82
688
10/02/2021 12:49:59 11 1
bbc
Have to disagree. Fed up of all the lockdowns and restrictions which are causing far more harm to the economy and our wellbeing. Time to concede that COVID is not going away and that we need to get back to normal and learn to live with it was we do for other diseases. I will book holidays and have something to look forward to after lockdown misery ends.
871
10/02/2021 13:07:42 4 0
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we said this last year,if we wait until this is all over we will never holiday again
904
10/02/2021 13:10:47 3 1
bbc
Actually it will be the end of the world for some people. Countless millions have had a desperately miserable time over the last year and quite rightly deserve some hope and a break.
4
10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
bbc
Staycation. Boost the UK ????
33
10/02/2021 12:01:29 24 16
bbc
Not allowed.
34
10/02/2021 12:01:29 38 11
bbc
Look up Yorkshire Airways - Don’t need to go anywhere else
599
10/02/2021 12:43:17 9 35
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Yeah.

Sure.

Unless you find being surrounded by Yorky bores a bit of a bore.
722
10/02/2021 12:52:44 3 6
bbc
Yorkshire's depressing.
957
10/02/2021 13:15:13 4 5
bbc
Ugh, no thanks. flat beer, bland food, questionable weather and mediocre scenery. not for me, I prefer something better.
10/02/2021 13:23:52 5 1
bbc
Shhhhh. We don’t want to be invaded by loads of southerners.
10/02/2021 14:31:03 0 0
bbc
Isn't it that you need a passport for Yorkshire!
6
10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
bbc
Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
35
10/02/2021 12:01:37 0 1
bbc
This isn't the only thing the government has said.
7
10/02/2021 11:58:48 7 11
bbc
Well very true but get some guts and announce the quarantine measures will be for the rest of the year and for all travellers of any part of the world.

So easy to fix these stupid people’s hopes and expectations, with a dose of reality of how the future should be for all time. This is not the only virus out there. Fast travel kills people, and economies. We never see a disease in time otherwise.
36
10/02/2021 12:01:41 6 10
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And then there are no airlines airports or holiday companies left brilliant idea
225
10/02/2021 12:16:40 1 0
bbc
Would be perfect yes.

In reality there would be a vastly reduced business. People would adapt to rarer holidays away abroad but longer ones to make better use of the locked up time either end. Sadly it would not end all movement.
No HYS, on the European president's admission of the "shortcomings" of their vaccine roll out ? It was supposed to be dear old blighty messing things up! Removed
54
10/02/2021 12:03:52 8 9
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Why are you interested? We're not in the EU any more. Aren't there enough UK shortcomings to chat about?
91
10/02/2021 12:06:37 2 2
bbc
Summed up well. EU admit error, time to move on. Maybe BJ and his chums could try a bit of humility rather than 'world beating' hyperbole and BS?
101
10/02/2021 12:07:27 1 1
bbc
Quite right, the government only managed to miss-handle controlling the pandemic allowing cases to get out of hand by not acting quickly enough. Still they have plenty of vaccine so I suspect their loyal followers will be telling us they are in control and forgetting all the errors made along the way.
20
10/02/2021 12:00:10 127 15
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Lets hope that the roll out continues at a pace. It is the young though who will suffer here, as if they are last in line, it may be many months before they can travel. The roll out is something to be very proud of. Well done to all of those individuals involved. We owe you a huge amount of gratitude
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lwj
10/02/2021 12:01:57 144 192
bbc
Yes and the young have lost EU freedom of movement too.
119
10/02/2021 12:08:59 12 11
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What they do when they to the likes of Australia or the USA? GROW UP
255
10/02/2021 12:18:30 32 16
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Get a visa. Its easy and costs very little.
561
10/02/2021 12:39:43 14 11
bbc
So you can't travel their any more, that's outrageous. Oh wait you can still do everything as before... so your point is...rubbish?
934
10/02/2021 13:13:08 16 5
bbc
Gosh, does it only affect the young? I must have read the exit document wrong.....
10/02/2021 13:20:26 7 4
bbc
We haven’t lost EU freedom of movement if it’s a holiday of under three months’ duration.
10/02/2021 13:23:10 3 3
bbc
Someone always has to slip that one in!!
Ray
10/02/2021 13:32:35 6 2
bbc
No they have not they (and everyone else) can freely travel to EU countries on a passport no need to ask for visas or anything, what else constitutes freedom of movement ?
10/02/2021 13:52:58 7 4
bbc
How'd you work that out? I see Norwegians and Swiss all over Europe - after all Spain and Italy will go bankrupt without UK tourists! Are you still hanging on to that remain lie?
10/02/2021 14:06:45 2 0
bbc
Don't you mean EU CONTROL???
10/02/2021 14:13:02 0 0
bbc
The govt is planning on Youth Education Camps (possibly), to get the youth used to wholesome holidays in the UK, so don't worry about them.
10/02/2021 14:17:17 2 0
bbc
In what way? What is stopping them??
10/02/2021 14:26:32 0 0
bbc
I am not so young and lost my freedom of movement! Very upsetting.

Still all those "Brexit Benefits" Boris promised must be just around the corner.....lol
10/02/2021 14:50:23 2 1
bbc
Well considering about 90% of that was EU citizens coming here and taking jobs that could and should have been done by young people already living here I'm not sure they are that worried.
10/02/2021 15:30:22 2 1
bbc
Most have lost nothing in practice.

Covid stopped far more than Brexit.

Hols upto 90 days, effectively same as always for most.

Ok work will need visas, but so will EU taking jobs in UK. Balance?
10/02/2021 15:37:42 2 0
bbc
Different debate. We are banned from most EU countries anyway at the moment because of highly trnamissibke U.K. variant.
10/02/2021 15:41:30 0 0
bbc
Not just the young. I'm in danger of needing to become Italian!
GOM
10/02/2021 16:01:41 1 0
bbc
off-topic
10/02/2021 18:17:49 2 0
bbc
They can still move around the EU, just need a visa....like US, Australia, New Zealand. Adapt and stop whining
6
10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
bbc
Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
39
10/02/2021 12:02:01 7 5
bbc
*CORRECTION* Middle class champagne socialists desperate to go to their second mansion in the Spanish sun. Champagne socialists like Rita Ora with her private restaurant parties. Champagne socialist footballers with haircut in a closed barbers. Take a little closer look to your own lot before spouting off.
15
10/02/2021 11:59:41 391 162
bbc
It shouldn't be necessary for the government to tell people it's to early to book holidays for this year, common sense should tell them that. Just shows stupidity is alive and well and of course the I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW culture which seems to dominate many peoples thinking it well and truly imbedded in the UK and I suspect other western countries.
40
10/02/2021 12:02:08 153 72
bbc
"Western Countries", i.e. countries where capitalism dominates, have this system of making the population want everything for themselves, others come second.
181
10/02/2021 12:14:09 14 26
bbc
capitalism bad bad bad bad. People wanting things such as leisure...bad bad bad bad. Lets juts get on with it and bring Communism in wholesale: torture chambers and social credit apps and all. Only then will we all be truly happy.
567
10/02/2021 12:40:30 2 2
bbc
You're right of course. People need permission to go on holiday where capitalism doesn't dominate....
969
10/02/2021 13:16:10 3 2
bbc
where capitalism doesn't dominate what are you allowed to do in those countries?
you maý want something but are highly unlikely to be allowed it unless you're the ruling elite
10/02/2021 13:46:59 1 0
bbc
yeh! can't stand it, i'm outa here.
10/02/2021 14:06:36 1 2
bbc
quite right too. we work dam hard for what we get. People die and will continue to die fact! it's been like that when the dinosaurs was here. we need to get on and live with, because at the moment this is not life or living, this is barely existing and the sooner people like you get that message the better!
10/02/2021 14:39:25 3 1
bbc
Yes. The last thing you want to be is in a democratic Western country.
10/02/2021 15:06:56 0 0
bbc
Where as Russia and China give their people nothing while living the high life.
10/02/2021 16:13:42 0 0
bbc
This "want everything" culture only afflicts Western Countries, so not China, or Nigeria, or Russia or the Gulf states.... What nonsense.
10/02/2021 16:43:49 2 0
bbc
You do realise we have to learn to live with this virus
5
10/02/2021 11:58:09 18 23
bbc
Mr Shapps, yet another in the long list of incompetent buffoons masquerading as an MP, at least he is a marginal improvement on his predecessor, Failing Grayling.
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jon
10/02/2021 12:02:17 12 6
bbc
Try not to make comments personal. His elderly father, Tony Shapps has caught covid within the NHS and he’s not been able to visit him for two months.
349
10/02/2021 12:25:15 4 4
bbc
Grant Shapps' questionable previous business reputation and unenviable political career are completely unrelated to his father regrettably contracting covid-19 ? He's just a scheming little 'chancer', fortunate to be in the right place, at the right time to get his snout in the trough !
11/02/2021 01:03:46 0 1
bbc
With respect, that is not relevant. Mr Shapps is a member of the government and thus in a position of power. If he does not wish people to comment on the statements that he makes, then he should not make them.
5
10/02/2021 11:58:09 18 23
bbc
Mr Shapps, yet another in the long list of incompetent buffoons masquerading as an MP, at least he is a marginal improvement on his predecessor, Failing Grayling.
42
10/02/2021 12:02:23 5 5
bbc
Doing a better job then knee bender.
43
10/02/2021 12:02:39 717 231
bbc
Then they might want to tell the travel companies and airlines so they can stop with the bombardment of adverts. In fact just ban them in the UK for a bit. It's just setting up more false expectations and inevitable whining from the I'm all right Jack's.
56
10/02/2021 12:04:08 329 336
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Yes, ban more things!! ???????
158
10/02/2021 12:12:05 91 62
bbc
ban everything! especially companies desperately trying to survive and throwing the dice for the last time probably...yep, ban it. Ban it all.
166
D
10/02/2021 12:12:59 52 49
bbc
"bombardment" :-D Do you just want all the service industries to go bust then?
185
10/02/2021 12:14:20 68 8
bbc
Ryanair especially
229
10/02/2021 12:17:05 81 39
bbc
They’re sucking the money in so they can stay afloat - they will sink without it but deep down they know this summer is off. I’m deeply sorry for them but parting with your cash is a very bad idea. A pandemic is what it says it is and we should all stay at home as much as is possible.
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10/02/2021 12:17:43 77 17
bbc
Indeed.

As long as certain holiday companies are merrily bombarding the public with ads urging us to book; it will be the government that, once again, sets itself up to be accused of "sending out mixed messages".

And as we know so well by now; many among us are incapable of making sensible, life-saving decisions for ourselves.
242
10/02/2021 12:17:51 73 86
bbc
control freaks running the country and our lives
Ok let’s ban any advertisement from any companies that can’t currently trade just to help them out that bit more ???? Great economics idiot Removed
433
10/02/2021 12:31:06 64 3
bbc
Travel companies and airlines are well aware of it. They continue advertising in the hope people don't realise so they can get the cash then issue vouchers or credit notes when the holiday inevitably gets cancelled. On a slightly different track the number of vouchers and credit notes issued last year are a big cashflow problem building up when these firms have to honour them.
483
10/02/2021 12:34:17 44 18
bbc
Agree with you. Not necessary or sensible to be advertising holidays at the moment. Not enough people have immunity or been vaccinated.
495
10/02/2021 12:35:18 75 11
bbc
You don't actually have to buy stuff when you see an advert lol.
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IJ
10/02/2021 12:49:12 31 19
bbc
So everyone over 50 and vulnerable will be vaccinated by May. Why can't people go on holiday in July and August? We've either got faith in the vaccine or we haven't. Life is passing us by.
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RK
10/02/2021 12:52:17 6 10
bbc
Go and live in China
782
10/02/2021 12:58:31 18 1
bbc
Travel companies should be able to advertise - but just make it clear when booking that no refunds will be given if it all goes wrong. This would allow the travel companies to make some money and hopefully get lucky that people might be able to travel. If people are crazy enough, or rich enough to take the risk despite the obvious uncertainty and warnings, then that should be on them.
787
10/02/2021 12:59:23 10 5
bbc
nah, let them learn the hard way. There should be no refund rights, either.
848
10/02/2021 13:05:41 3 4
bbc
That will just hit other companies (TV, newspaper, etc.) who rely on advertising income...
858
10/02/2021 13:06:21 17 2
bbc
Well you really have to be pretty rich and pretty selfish to want to have a holiday with an extra 1750 bill on top, then if you do test positive do you have to pay another fee to stay isolated (or go to hospital) for another 10 days? Are people really that desperate for a holiday?
915
10/02/2021 13:11:37 11 9
bbc
I assume you never been on holiday, or want to go on holiday again?! There will soon be no travel companies left if this continues. Thousands of people losing their jobs and no more holidays, seems you like the idea of this?!
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Jax
10/02/2021 13:15:29 15 3
bbc
You and your family clearly do not owe your livelihood to British aviation. Imagine what the 25000 british pilots and their families are going through now. Redundancy for them and hundreds of thousands of other airline workers. There will be no british airlines surviving this.
Jax
10/02/2021 13:18:58 6 1
bbc
You do not need to worry. Our airlines will not exist very soon.
10/02/2021 13:24:36 5 10
bbc
"inevitable whining from the I'm all right Jack's".

These days we call them 'Brexiters'.
10/02/2021 13:33:01 4 1
bbc
Ban all adverts - they are the most irritating thing in the world. Our lives would be so much better with no advertising to annoy the heck out of us. Doesn't make me buy anything, in fact the more annoying the less I'd buy it, has the opposite effect.
10/02/2021 13:36:42 2 2
bbc
Well said. Holiday and travel companies should be"taken to the cleaners" if it all kicks off again.
10/02/2021 13:45:47 5 0
bbc
I have a hoilday booked this year. It is the same holiday I originally had booked for May 2020, that was pushed out to October 2020, then April 2021 and is now booked for September 2021 - thank god I paid the extra to have a flexible booking, I can see it moving again at this rate!
10/02/2021 13:48:30 2 0
bbc
you are a real bundle off joy
10/02/2021 13:55:32 4 2
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I had holiday booked in France last year, spoke to the campsite and they agreed to roll it over to 2021, here we are 2021 and a lack lustre elite minister telling me that I cannot go on holiday. on your nelly, will be going come hell or high water. time for this government to get a grip or ship out!
10/02/2021 13:56:30 5 0
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We've had enough of this lockdown fetish. We need releasing - and not just for holidays. My daughter's grandmother has not seen her for five years now (four due illness 15 months due lockdowns here), it's criminal that she and her mother still can't fly to meet her. Not all of us have our family in the UK!
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10/02/2021 11:54:59 9 13
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Locked in the the UK then!!!
44
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But isn't that where the will of the people took us in 2016. Surely this is a Brexiteers wet dream Removed
Yet clealy they made the right choice, even Italy is planning to leave EU, and there economy is deploarable Removed
145
10/02/2021 12:11:10 2 1
bbc
You know that is wrong so why make such a stupid comment.
Idiot Removed
Hello Richard head....remove this one BBC Removed
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10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
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Staycation. Boost the UK ????
45
10/02/2021 12:02:52 82 3
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then sit back and wait for the complaints from UK beauty spots about the influx of lager louts.
198
10/02/2021 12:12:59 24 6
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Lager louts are sheep. They will all congregate at the same places. Those of us who have higher cultural ambitions know that, and go to other places!
279
10/02/2021 12:20:04 11 3
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Just like last year when every man and his dog and the dogs cousin headed to Cornwall. Lost count of all the infections at work brought back by mixing with the rest of the U.K.
Not to mention the locals bleating that they couldn’t leave their houses due to tourists.
375
10/02/2021 12:26:57 3 4
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I’m not a lager lout. Nonsense statement.
46
10/02/2021 12:02:55 287 131
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End of civilisation if the ME ME ME squad don't get their fortnight in the sun
453
10/02/2021 12:32:18 199 87
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It's taken almost 12 months for the UK to realise what took around 12 seconds in Australia and New Zealand - we are an ISLAND, seal the border, keep covid out.

This disease is going to get nastier with new variants overseas from populations that aren't vaccinated, so once we are in control lets keep it that way.

Holiday in the sun next year when we know more.
474
10/02/2021 12:33:51 14 6
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well done youve earned the usual thumbs up now get off the cross
528
10/02/2021 12:37:42 21 7
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Only people who want this to carry on is retired people and people on Furlough ! If 75 year old granny is vaccinated and wants to go abroad maybe for the last time ... No sorry get back in your cell ! Ha waht a joker
939
10/02/2021 13:13:21 5 8
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You mean boomers?
JWG
10/02/2021 13:23:06 2 0
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End of humanity when the bed wetter stay inside forever
10/02/2021 13:25:15 5 3
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Not a question of that. Jobs and livelihoods also depend on it. Amazing how people like yourself and increasingly looking upwards to a tyrannical state for your moral decision making. Don't be a sheep, don't outsource whats left of your brain to the state.
10/02/2021 14:08:45 0 2
bbc
The me, me, me squad most probably pay your benefits or pension!
10/02/2021 14:20:13 0 2
bbc
Grow up!
27
10/02/2021 12:01:00 11 38
bbc
Here we go again! Some power hungry Government lockdown fanatic telling us what to do for our own good! Get the country opened back up for goodness sake!
47
10/02/2021 12:02:56 15 6
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Better still stop being selfish
48
10/02/2021 12:03:20 249 69
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Why would there be no summer holidays? There were last year and the Covid peak was in April in 2020, its not even the middle of February yet.
111
10/02/2021 12:08:30 137 182
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People didn't stand up to tyranny the time, now it's being accepted
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10/02/2021 12:16:18 27 2
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Not to mention nobody was vaccinated then.
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D
10/02/2021 12:16:39 23 16
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Exactly. I managed 2 UK holidays last year. Loved every minute of it. Looking forward to the same this year - already booked.
362
10/02/2021 12:26:09 10 3
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The highest covid peak was in January this year!
701
10/02/2021 12:51:09 7 18
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If you ask that question, David, you wouldn't understand the answer.
748
10/02/2021 12:55:23 9 6
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Because Boris couldn't ban holidays after letting his chief advisor drive a coach and horses through the Covid rules. No such problem this year.
10/02/2021 13:21:50 10 4
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No - summer holidays were off, then on, then off again in the space of about a week. Many of us have bookings rolling forward from that particular Shapps fiasco so for him to pretend its nothing to do with him is a disgrace (and as I recall he DID go abroad last year).
10/02/2021 13:49:17 0 1
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You need to have seen the look of abject terror in the faces of those who lived in some popular destinations.
10/02/2021 13:53:00 3 1
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That is the ironic part....people went on holiday last summer both here and abroad and there was hardly a case in the UK until the schools went back in September.
10/02/2021 14:29:12 2 3
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Subsequently all that travel last year proved stupid and selfish, just because it happened once before wouldn’t make it right the next time. It makes it worse knowing it’s wrong. In 22 people will be moaning about the variant introduced by holiday makers from say the Canaries causing a new lockdown.....,
Fo
10/02/2021 14:40:57 2 0
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I can’t believe you would ask this ?
10/02/2021 14:43:31 0 0
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Summer holidays in the UK are more likely to be possible.

Summer holidays abroad will depend on more variables.
Tour operators/insurance/foreign government restrictions/worldwide new variants.

I would not like to gamble on a foreign trip being possible.
10/02/2021 15:09:51 3 0
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And what do you think caused wave 2 in UK and much of EU?

Travel brought covid to uk in wave 1, genomics mainly EU Fra,Italy, Aus etc.

Spa variant reseeded in uk and other EU (Ger etc) over summer.

Quite simple.
Covid kills.
Travel spreads it.

Would rather have pubs and shops open, millions in uk back in work and all kids in school, and able to see friends and family than foreign holidays.
10/02/2021 15:34:33 1 0
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And the number of cases has been rising ever since
10/02/2021 16:02:07 1 0
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The Covid peak was around December 2020/January 2021. It began in August/September 2020 when everyone was herded onto aeroplanes and went off to Greece, Spain, Portugal or wherever.
10/02/2021 17:00:50 0 0
bbc
Exactly - just half way through winter when this disease is at its worst. Current Cases, Hospitalisations and Deaths are way in excess of last March/April - do the Maths.
10/02/2021 17:06:46 1 1
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Yep, last Summer beaches were packed and pubs were open in the UK plus people travelled abroad but there spike in cases. In fact, deaths during Summer 2020 were below the 5 year average.
10/02/2021 18:49:43 1 0
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Because the European destinations wont accept you as they're not vaccinated.
17
10/02/2021 12:00:00 14 19
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Go against the crowd and book NOW while prices are low.

All reputable firms are offering a money back guarantee so nothing to lose.

Conversely you can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as the Government confirms an ease in restrictions then the law of supply and demand means prices will shoot up!
49
10/02/2021 12:03:33 5 5
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Already done, Got a 25% discount on flight to Portugal but guaranteed refund. Worst case I am loaning the airline (BA) some money interest free to help them stay afloat.
50
10/02/2021 12:03:35 24 9
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Honestly why cant people book a cabin holiday in the UK?

Its the definition of isolating

I know whats going to happen...

Were all going to sit and watch celebrities and "influencers" go on holiday AGAIN!!!! ??

? " So long peasants" ??
10/02/2021 13:25:39 17 0
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Its one thing I admit triggers me....'influencers'...I know it makes me sound very middle aged - But FFS who watches and listens to these grade A plebs promoting products...they are advertising and getting paid to stand around pushing products often without fulling admitting its advertising...Truly the lowest of the low in terms of adding value to society!
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10/02/2021 12:00:10 127 15
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Lets hope that the roll out continues at a pace. It is the young though who will suffer here, as if they are last in line, it may be many months before they can travel. The roll out is something to be very proud of. Well done to all of those individuals involved. We owe you a huge amount of gratitude
51
10/02/2021 12:03:37 45 34
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It's the young prolonging lockdown with their 300 scally illegal raves
330
10/02/2021 12:23:24 45 23
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"It's the young prolonging lockdown with their 300 scally illegal raves".

Most of "the young" have given up one of the best years of their lives for your benefit, not their own. You, and those of us that had the benefit of being able to enjoy youth, should be grateful.
507
10/02/2021 12:36:44 37 7
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It's the young that have been locked into their university halls and told not to leave, to protect the old, where asking them to stay in their homes is deemed to be a step too far and tantamount to imprisonment.

I'd too old to be considered young now, but I can well understand their level of resentment.
10/02/2021 15:10:51 3 0
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Or pensioners not adhering to social distancing requirements in supermarkets. Happens all the time.
10/02/2021 16:12:38 4 0
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As a young person who has lost what should have been one of the best years of their life - locked in a flood-damaged house since March - I resent your ignorance.

The virus does not discriminate by age and it is silly to only blame one age group. Yet you had your youth, you get to retire, own a home, had free tuition. The list goes on.

Us youth are definitely not "the entitled".
52
10/02/2021 12:03:46 6 14
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Who can afford to holiday in the UK anyway
89
10/02/2021 12:06:32 3 1
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Can you explain your comment please?
17
10/02/2021 12:00:00 14 19
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Go against the crowd and book NOW while prices are low.

All reputable firms are offering a money back guarantee so nothing to lose.

Conversely you can bet your bottom dollar that as soon as the Government confirms an ease in restrictions then the law of supply and demand means prices will shoot up!
53
10/02/2021 12:03:49 9 2
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Or just not be so self entitled, you simply must have a holiday during a global pandemic, with the added bonus you could pick up wonderful new variants and help spread them around..

And no, I haven't been on holiday since the pandemic began, but yes I miss it like you wouldn't believe, but I have a responsibility to my fellow man to stop the virus spreading
No HYS, on the European president's admission of the "shortcomings" of their vaccine roll out ? It was supposed to be dear old blighty messing things up! Removed
54
10/02/2021 12:03:52 8 9
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Why are you interested? We're not in the EU any more. Aren't there enough UK shortcomings to chat about?
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Jax
10/02/2021 11:59:02 10 10
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Fine for those that do not derive their livelihood from aviation. If you do, then you are losing so much more. Career, that cost £100k in training costs, home and massive impact on spouse and children. None of our airlines will survive this without a massive bailout from government.
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10/02/2021 12:03:58 7 7
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Flying will need to be hugely curtailed. So no bad thing if this virus does the job for us. Quarantine for every trip must be the normality of cross border travel, as it always should have been. Or the next one might be a real killer. Fast world travel is lethal to humanity.
Jax
10/02/2021 13:56:26 0 0
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You are insensitive and probably insane.
10/02/2021 14:19:37 0 0
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Are you right in the head - you realise that by your logic every time a lorry driver came back from France loaded with tins of beans he would have to be isolated for 10 days - let alone holiday makers. Like Mr Shapps perhaps you should have given your head a wobble before speaking...
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10/02/2021 12:02:39 717 231
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Then they might want to tell the travel companies and airlines so they can stop with the bombardment of adverts. In fact just ban them in the UK for a bit. It's just setting up more false expectations and inevitable whining from the I'm all right Jack's.
56
10/02/2021 12:04:08 329 336
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Yes, ban more things!! ???????
583
10/02/2021 12:42:11 34 31
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Are you mad. Our liberties are being eroded at an alarming rate. New laws that will probably never get rescinded. I find it all rather more scary than the problem. 10k fine for lying. What ever next?
887
10/02/2021 13:08:53 7 18
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Why should people be allowed to go to shops when they can use delivery? These people must pay. People going to Aldi or Tesco need to hotel quarantine for 14 days.
10/02/2021 13:41:55 1 0
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No, it's right to think this way since the holiday companies are still in debt to those who booked over a year ago and have not yet been refunded. Refunds should be the priority not ads!
10/02/2021 13:57:23 4 0
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Just ban living at all??
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10/02/2021 11:59:06 60 46
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Yeah, this is still about a virus. Lockdown for years......variant this, variant that. 99.7% survival rate. You've got more chance of dying on your way to get your "vaccine" than you have of getting the rona and dying.
57
10/02/2021 12:04:12 12 4
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If there was more than a 0.3% chance of dying on the way to get the vaccine, then why haven't tens of thousands died so far?
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DG
10/02/2021 12:04:17 763 154
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Book your holiday if you wish, but don't start moaning for Gov help when it all goes pear shaped.

And, don't forget you may need an extra £1750 to get back in, unless you tell lies then you will get free board in the big house.
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10/02/2021 12:05:21 154 39
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Its only a hotel from selected countries.
Unless your an illegal immigrant, you get the 5 star hotel for free. Removed
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D
10/02/2021 12:14:14 71 5
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Only if you go abroad. And only to certain countries. Holiday in the UK - UK service industry needs your money as much as other countries.
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10/02/2021 12:15:25 26 60
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I still want to hear the justification for the high cost of the quarantine hotels. A proper suite and gourmet food for that much...
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10/02/2021 12:21:37 31 3
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Some will have already booked, thanks to ads implying vaccination makes it safe to holiday abroad (eg Ryanair): wonder if this change to regulations means they’ll get refund if they cancel ??
382
10/02/2021 12:27:11 26 37
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I think you're enjoying being ordered about a bit too much.
912
10/02/2021 13:09:59 12 17
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No, get a one-way flight but return on a dinghy having chucked your passport in the Channel.

You'll even get an extended stay in a 4 or 5 star hotel!
986
10/02/2021 13:17:20 10 8
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Many of us already have bookings for this year because we had to roll over last year's booking after the almighty foul up the government made of summer last year when holidays were off, then on, then off again in the space of about a week.
10/02/2021 13:23:52 3 2
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I think this thread is about summer holidays not here and now. Summer is months away!!
10/02/2021 13:42:43 1 2
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Lose your passport and claim asylum!
10/02/2021 13:48:21 4 2
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Unless you are a Tory of course!

Anyone got a list of when Bozo and his Dad have been abroad on holiday within the last 12 months?
Dan
10/02/2021 13:56:39 5 0
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We have booked flights to Spain for September in the hope my wife will be able to visit her parents and my son, his grandparents. If circumstances don't allow for it when the time arrives, I won't moan about it and just take the loss, worth the gamble to me.
10/02/2021 14:02:17 2 0
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Absolutely spot on Mate, they'll be the first ones to whinge when they cant get a refund
10/02/2021 14:10:20 3 5
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Claim you're an asylum seeker and you don't have to pay.
TJ
10/02/2021 14:31:23 1 0
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did you check the list of countries ??? only portugal on the list from the eu ;) big headlines... little on action !
Fo
10/02/2021 14:39:24 2 0
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I agree and then demand that they be flown home? If you book a holiday in a pandemic then be prepared for anything
10/02/2021 14:42:43 1 4
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Shut up u depressing muppet
10/02/2021 14:45:19 0 2
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First, its a crazy sum of money, and secondly and more relevant, the 'big houses' are overfull already. Are the UK gov releasing 'serious' criminals into the public domain to make room for covid19 dodgers? Lastly, yes I'm in favour of punishing covid19 dodgers but is this the best solution the UK gov can up with?
SJ
10/02/2021 15:30:09 1 0
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If you adopt a pseudonym you could become SoS for Transport, like Michael Green aka Grant Shapps. Does that count as lying ?
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lwj
10/02/2021 11:58:52 14 33
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The very thought of being trapped in the UK would fill me with horror.
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10/02/2021 12:04:17 10 2
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Then clear off and don't come back. Try South Sudan. Nice and warm there.
60
10/02/2021 12:04:34 46 6
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Well you can book a holiday if you want, but there’s a chance it might not be allowed to proceed. Is it worth taking a punt? ?? Given how most of the lockdowns were last minute decisions, it’s probably going to screw up. ??
408
10/02/2021 12:29:52 20 3
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A VERY big chance.
10/02/2021 14:40:59 0 0
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Just book on a free cancellation basis.
10/02/2021 16:14:15 0 0
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Perhaps people are getting too much furlough pay, if they can afford expensive holidays? It should cover the essentials (food housing, etc) not expensive luxuries.
Nicola will be going on one long holiday very soon ?? Removed
61
10/02/2021 12:04:42 51 18
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#rent free
117
10/02/2021 12:07:33 9 7
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3 squares a day included! ??
217
10/02/2021 12:16:13 7 6
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Full board.
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10/02/2021 11:59:41 391 162
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It shouldn't be necessary for the government to tell people it's to early to book holidays for this year, common sense should tell them that. Just shows stupidity is alive and well and of course the I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW culture which seems to dominate many peoples thinking it well and truly imbedded in the UK and I suspect other western countries.
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Rob
10/02/2021 12:04:46 27 5
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Yes - unfortunately common sense would appear to be a rarer commodity than PPE in the UK these days.
413
10/02/2021 12:30:10 4 1
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.....common sense ain't that common.
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10/02/2021 11:59:41 391 162
bbc
It shouldn't be necessary for the government to tell people it's to early to book holidays for this year, common sense should tell them that. Just shows stupidity is alive and well and of course the I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW culture which seems to dominate many peoples thinking it well and truly imbedded in the UK and I suspect other western countries.
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10/02/2021 12:04:51 29 8
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Totally agree. Why dont the government just ban international travel to the end of year. I like my holidays too, but it would be safer to restrict travel. Stop building up peoples hopes of travel.
393
10/02/2021 12:28:08 4 0
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they aren't they are advising you not to book?
10/02/2021 13:52:08 3 0
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And would you care to share with us your financially viable solution to utter collapse of the international travel industry which will be a pile of smouldering ashes
15
10/02/2021 11:59:41 391 162
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It shouldn't be necessary for the government to tell people it's to early to book holidays for this year, common sense should tell them that. Just shows stupidity is alive and well and of course the I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW culture which seems to dominate many peoples thinking it well and truly imbedded in the UK and I suspect other western countries.
64
10/02/2021 12:04:58 22 16
bbc
British people are idiots. Still going through their 300 toilet rolls.
398
10/02/2021 12:28:43 5 1
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all of us? we all bought 300 toilet rolls?
10/02/2021 17:36:03 0 0
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Are you drowning in your own stinky stuff?
65
10/02/2021 12:05:00 10 5
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2 weeks away in the sun, then 10 years in the 'big house' when you get back?
350
10/02/2021 12:25:21 1 0
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Its up to a maximum of 10 years.
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10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
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Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
66
10/02/2021 12:05:03 4 5
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Really wasnt the normal middle classes voting for this Tory Government. The working class being duped into thinking that this lot had their best interests at heart - is the reason we have this confusion of weasels running the country.
67
10/02/2021 12:05:10 303 80
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I don’t like this government but the constant “set a date” is tiresome.

This is sensible approach and honest. It’s grown up policies and common sense.

Let’s not trigger the swivel eyed “get on with it and open up now” nonsense. We need to double down and see this off.
610
10/02/2021 12:44:07 137 293
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You won't see it off. It's too late. Stop being part of destroying lives, families, income, businesses, education because you are. You want to say indoors, fine stay indoors. I will not give this another year of my life, especially when we could have had treatments for this ages ago if we hadn't spent so much time on a vaccine (which need updating before it's even rolled out fully) instead.
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IJ
10/02/2021 13:03:51 17 5
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You do understand it will never be seen off?
10/02/2021 14:04:20 21 7
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Exactly right . grow up people and just be patient
Fo
10/02/2021 14:41:42 1 1
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I agree everyone wants certainty after every decision then they want a route plan out ! For crying out loud
10/02/2021 15:04:42 7 0
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You can't see this off. When will you realise that? It's like wishing thd common cold could be eradicated, it won't be and neither will covid 19.

Note: vivid 19 because it was discovered in 2019. It is now 2021 rolling into 2022 and variants will occur FOREVER.
10/02/2021 16:44:35 1 0
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We will gave to live with this virus it's not going away
10/02/2021 17:03:05 1 0
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"It is important to note that international travel
restrictions only act to delay an epidemic. They do not reduce the size of the within-country epidemic once it occurs. The evidence base includes experience from earlier pandemics of attempts to keep out, or slow down arrival of the virus" UK Civil Contingencies Secretariat 2007 with evidence given by none other than Mr Neil Ferguson.
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DG
10/02/2021 12:04:17 763 154
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Book your holiday if you wish, but don't start moaning for Gov help when it all goes pear shaped.

And, don't forget you may need an extra £1750 to get back in, unless you tell lies then you will get free board in the big house.
68
10/02/2021 12:05:21 154 39
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Its only a hotel from selected countries.
156
10/02/2021 12:12:00 64 5
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and there in lies the problem. Covid-19 doesn't respect borders so it can and will come form countries other than those on the list.
260
10/02/2021 12:18:49 64 0
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but those countries could change at very short notice
417
10/02/2021 12:30:17 37 0
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on a list that may change at any time
460
10/02/2021 12:32:52 20 0
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For now, I seriously doubt that country list is going to stay the same through out the year, nor that you're going to get a lot of notice if new ones are added.
709
10/02/2021 12:51:43 3 0
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That could easily change.
10/02/2021 13:28:39 4 0
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and that selection can change at any time!
10/02/2021 13:30:38 0 0
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Have you seen the 'red list'.....it's made up of minority countries! That's why the government need 1 x hotel...that should just about do it!
10/02/2021 13:33:42 4 0
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The thing is we don't know which countries will be on the list in a months time do we, never mind by August?
10/02/2021 13:40:26 9 1
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at the minute David, at the minute. Add Spain, France and Greece to the list because they aren't rolling out their vaccine programmes quickly enough and it catches a whole load of idiots who will say 'it wasn't on the list when I booked'.

Bottom line is that if you book a holiday abroad you should expect to isolate for 10 days (ie more holiday needed) and pay £1750. Anything else is a bonus.
10/02/2021 13:58:32 2 2
bbc
Just stop at home and go to Blackpool...easy innit??
10/02/2021 14:24:38 4 0
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It should be for ALL international arrivals regardless same as it is in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and so many other countries who are SERIOUS about "closing the door" on spread internationally.
Boris Johnson with his 250,000 people a day would normally be expected to arrive in the UK, "but we've got it down to about 25,000.
10/02/2021 14:32:41 1 0
bbc
Which can change at any time.

And it's all countries in Scotland.

And SAGE recommending, WM Labour demanding should be too, so expect Wales to follow.
10/02/2021 14:32:50 1 0
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At the moment - next week?
bds
10/02/2021 14:53:00 1 1
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But that list of selected countries includes some very popular holiday destinations, eg France
10/02/2021 15:12:16 3 0
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But that list of countries could change at any time, including while you are already away on holiday.
10/02/2021 15:13:28 1 0
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Problem is that selected list of countries that need hotel quarantine is liable to change with minimal notice, so quite easy to get caught out.
10/02/2021 15:23:50 1 0
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Unless you live in Scotland then it's all countries
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10/02/2021 11:58:18 9 42
bbc
Hundreds of thousands dead and the best they have to say is don't book your middle class holiday cruise aboard too quick?

Disgraceful but unsurprising, thus is the sheltered, selfish concerns at the heart of the middle class who definite Tory/right wing views of the world.
69
10/02/2021 12:05:27 9 2
bbc
Shoulder chip alert!
11
10/02/2021 11:59:06 60 46
bbc
Yeah, this is still about a virus. Lockdown for years......variant this, variant that. 99.7% survival rate. You've got more chance of dying on your way to get your "vaccine" than you have of getting the rona and dying.
70
10/02/2021 12:05:31 3 7
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This 99% rubbish is becoming boring from you lot
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RC
10/02/2021 12:05:33 383 53
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Public health advice is not to book a holiday so it is a buyer beware scenario i.e. don't start crying if you lose money as a result.
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10/02/2021 12:26:58 212 125
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Trouble is that so many people have got into the habit of thinking that four or more foreign holidays each year is normal. They are used to staying put only in the brief interlude between cruises (or whatever). Bad for Covid management and bad for the planet.
714
10/02/2021 12:52:05 7 4
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You don’t lose your money, you just move the holiday, so there is no risk
947
10/02/2021 13:14:24 9 1
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The only money I lost last year was the unnecessary annual travel insurance that I bought.

I’ll hold off renewing it this year until I book my next holiday - whenever that may be.
10/02/2021 13:19:46 6 0
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I'm still trying to get money back from last summers holiday that was cancelled
10/02/2021 13:45:09 0 0
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Think i'll start a holiday company then with no guarantees!!!
10/02/2021 13:50:05 0 11
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I've been vaccinated, I'm at no risk and I'm no risk to others. My liberty cannot be curtailed any longer.
10/02/2021 13:50:45 1 2
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Unless you are a Tory of course!

Anyone got a list of when Bozo and his Dad have been abroad on holiday within the last 12 months?
10/02/2021 15:10:27 4 0
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And isn't the core purpose of a holiday that it's an enjoyable escape from everyday life and the pressures and annoyances that come with it?

So going to another country where I'm still faced with the same, onerous anti-Covid measures that I would back home isn't my idea of a good time - and certainly not one I'd pay good money for.
10/02/2021 15:58:56 2 0
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Exactly. Its a read the small print scenario. Personally I cant wait to get away again, but I wont be booking anything as yet and I work in travel.
10/02/2021 16:28:52 2 0
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But you know they will. It's always someone else's fault. A holiday is a luxury not an essential so it won't kill you. Well actually it might if you catch this inconvenient little virus that seems to be doing the rounds.
10/02/2021 17:31:23 0 0
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If people book a traditional package holiday they won’t need to cry as it will be ATOL protected. It’s the DIY flights and hotel bookings that are risky.
Col
10/02/2021 20:53:11 0 0
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It's not the UK government that decide it's the destination government that decide if their borders are open or closed.
11/02/2021 15:30:38 0 0
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you just buy a plane ticket thats all
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lwj
10/02/2021 11:58:52 14 33
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The very thought of being trapped in the UK would fill me with horror.
72
10/02/2021 12:05:52 5 2
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Bye ??
73
10/02/2021 12:05:52 5 3
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As sure as night follows day the “Great British Summer” will follow the “Merry Little Christmas “.
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10/02/2021 12:05:54 12 7
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We should be encouraged to spend holidays within the UK, boost our own economy off the back of a world leading vaccination programme.

Perhaps keep the borders closed for a longer period whilst the rest of the world plays catch up, and let us enjoy some well earned rest time with our families.
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10/02/2021 12:12:18 5 3
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The problem is the cost of holidays in the UK. I have no children, a fair salary yet there is no way I can afford a weeks holiday with my husband in Scotland - so many English people have moved up here bought a second home and are letting it out at extraordinary prices for holidays - how does that boost the economy? No only a few get richer. I'll stick to taking my tent and wild camping.
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D
10/02/2021 12:19:21 1 1
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"plays catchup"? Well, we're on over 100,00 dead now, so most places have some way to catchup!
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10/02/2021 12:05:56 78 22
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If you do book a foreign jolly please don't demand that me and the other tax payers bail you out if it turns out you can't go, personally we chose not to book a foreign holiday just yet! And don't moan about it.
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10/02/2021 12:18:38 28 11
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Who's demanding gov money to bail out cost of holidays that are cancelled? That's between the consumer and the holiday company accepting their money.

On the flip side, how much government money is being demanded to stay in lockdown, indefinitely?
10/02/2021 15:01:22 1 3
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If you’re scared of Covid please don’t ask the entire country to bail you out.... oh wait
10/02/2021 16:19:38 1 1
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I think you'll find a lot of people booked this years summer last year when case numbers were low and politicians were painting a rosy future. What do you say to those people ?
10/02/2021 16:50:43 1 0
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I didnt last year and i wont this year.
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Jax
10/02/2021 11:59:02 10 10
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Fine for those that do not derive their livelihood from aviation. If you do, then you are losing so much more. Career, that cost £100k in training costs, home and massive impact on spouse and children. None of our airlines will survive this without a massive bailout from government.
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10/02/2021 12:05:57 1 6
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Life is about choice.. those with careers in air travel chose unwisely. travelling by air is unsustainable in any case. Something would have inevitably stopped it.. its just this has come sooner rather than later.
595
10/02/2021 12:43:03 2 0
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But thankfully some people did chose aviation as a career choice, meaning that they can continue to operate and manage aircraft that has brought in the vast majority of the NHS's PPE and other critical medical supplies
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10/02/2021 12:05:59 7 7
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Anyone with half a brain knows the global approach should have been to protect the vulnerable and encourage everyone else to catch the virus and develop immuity. Governments have taken the wrong approach in the hope of being re-elected, we've reached the point of no return and should see the wrong approach through.
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10/02/2021 12:18:17 1 1
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Banging my head against the wall has not yet solved my headache. Should I also continue?
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10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
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Staycation. Boost the UK ????
78
10/02/2021 12:06:06 101 27
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Staycation means stay at home, not book a domestic holiday.
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10/02/2021 12:11:05 27 9
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It does wind me up that the term 'staycation' has been hijeacked to mean holidaying in the UK. It means staying at home and always has. I reckon it's Big Travel trying to shame people into booking foreign holiday.
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10/02/2021 12:16:40 9 2
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Glad somebody else understands this, the media obviously don't
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10/02/2021 12:06:07 3 8
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Should be no reason not to book for August onwards, 14m+ vaccinated and reduced positive tests indicate the virus is in recession. The only worrying thing is the high death rate - is this due to long term Covid patients having their care reduced to a simply palliative level (morphine etc.) and being allowed to slip away? The government are being very quiet about this.
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10/02/2021 12:08:29 3 4
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We will be told whatever suits the governments agenda. There will be more draconian measures as we turn into a police state.
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10/02/2021 12:06:08 7 2
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It’s going to be a lottery travelling even in Europe when the popular destinations are so slow to get the vaccinations programme in gear. Lots of countries will be still be red listed even at the end of summer. Save your money and plan for 2022
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10/02/2021 12:01:50 187 19
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This virus will be endemic. Which means we all must learn to accept that every year it will reappear and kill 20-50000. Just like flu does. Get the vaccine and let’s all move in with our lives.
357
10/02/2021 12:23:45 14 17
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12k in 2018 dead from flu
100k and rising from covid
960
10/02/2021 13:15:41 3 0
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Let's hope that this is a 20 death year then.
10/02/2021 13:28:00 11 2
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Flu kills about 11k pa in the UK, not 20k-50k. If more people had the flu jab this number could be lower. More people are now aware of the need for Flu and Covid vaccinations so hopefully the annual death toll will be kept as low as possible.
10/02/2021 14:28:51 2 3
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'get the vaccine' is that an order?
10/02/2021 14:51:27 0 3
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Some can't thanks to people like you who voted this shower in.
VoR
10/02/2021 15:38:31 1 2
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You forget that our path to flu resistance involved flu killing tens of millions first. And that was at a time where obesity was less prevalent.
10/02/2021 16:16:14 3 0
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I think you might be right. Nearly 600k die every year and we rarely attribute a death as due to old age, so cancer, pneumonia etc is put down as cause of death despite fact we all eventually die. With Covid average age of victim is 82, and number of deaths will fall with vaccines, but some will die from Covid every year as they do from flu, pneumonia and cancer
10/02/2021 16:50:45 1 1
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Just the 400,000 with long covid. Nurses who can't work anymore. Perhaps we should be looking for more than the let's just live with it attitude...
10/02/2021 17:03:44 0 0
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No, just avoid human contact, don't touch things people touch, you'll be fine.
10/02/2021 17:09:15 0 0
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Rare flu kills more than 10,000 per year in UK, so your numbers are way out. It was considered high in 2016 with approx 15,000. Interesting this year hardly any flu - probably due to all the personal hygiene, social distancing, mask wearing - useful lessons
10/02/2021 20:41:49 0 0
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But let’s wait until everyone is vaccinated, another few months is not going to harm us.
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10/02/2021 12:01:54 3 2
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This clearly is becoming a virus versus vaccine battle, they seem quite concerned of variants rightly so, lets squash this as much as we can to stop the circle of lockdown. open up, rinse and repeat!
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10/02/2021 11:58:50 27 26
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£10000 fine or 10 years for lying about travel, cabinet post for lying about Brexit
83
10/02/2021 12:06:11 14 8
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Always one muppet
84
10/02/2021 12:03:00 4 4
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Shouldn’t the priority be getting schools back and families reunited. So much emotional damage being done to children with no school and isolated from their extended family
85
10/02/2021 12:06:15 5 4
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"People in the UK "shouldn't be booking" holidays at home or abroad due to ongoing coronavirus uncertainty, the transport secretary has warned"

The same Grant Shapps/Transport Sec who was recently promoting air bridges?
293
10/02/2021 12:21:15 1 1
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They were lovely risk before variants came along. KEEP UP
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Kev
10/02/2021 12:06:20 7 8
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So, if the average joe is caught lying they get 10 years inside.

If Johnson is caught lying (again, and again, and again), he gets to be PM.

Seems reasonable.
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10/02/2021 12:20:48 2 2
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KEEP UP THE HATE
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10/02/2021 12:06:29 2 2
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224

Someone might want to tell the Boss!
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10/02/2021 12:09:28 1 0
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Someone might want to read the original article.
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10/02/2021 12:00:01 15 14
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Is Grant Shapps (or family/acquaintances) shorting travel company shares again?
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Jax
10/02/2021 12:06:31 8 3
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No. He is initiating the death of British aviation.
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10/02/2021 12:03:46 6 14
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Who can afford to holiday in the UK anyway
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10/02/2021 12:06:32 3 1
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Can you explain your comment please?
90
10/02/2021 12:06:33 4 12
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Why not? We do not risk anything and it is very cheap with guarantee of a full refund by BA. Keeping them afloat is important, too. They need money.
Special offers are out there so good time to book now because they say we can travel then imagine the hike in prices.
Now Aruba for 300 quid return , Japan 360 ..It will triple later on.
I am the man of NOW. I do things NOW.
Who waits pays much x3
No HYS, on the European president's admission of the "shortcomings" of their vaccine roll out ? It was supposed to be dear old blighty messing things up! Removed
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10/02/2021 12:06:37 2 2
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Summed up well. EU admit error, time to move on. Maybe BJ and his chums could try a bit of humility rather than 'world beating' hyperbole and BS?
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10/02/2021 12:06:37 5 1
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I remember a story last Autumn about people booking up holidays abroad for Summer 2021....said at the time all they were doing was writing this year's headlines. Usually we have a week long holiday in the UK but this year it'll be day-trips, as, when and if we're allowed.
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10/02/2021 12:06:55 621 149
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Its time we had a rational discussion about it. At what point do we accept that we must live with this virus? People get ill and die every year of flu yet life goes on. It may sound callus but its a question of what level of illness and deaths is socially acceptable. What we need is much better health care and attention to diet and lifestyle.
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10/02/2021 12:10:32 376 73
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Difference being (as was the case from day 1) deaths are only really a public perception problem. Covid puts people in hospitals and that diverts resources away from other areas (See Italy March 2020 with one of the best healthcare systems in the world). No civilised society should let people die on the floor.

When the risk to hospitalisation is low, that's when acceptable risk is discussed.
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CH
10/02/2021 12:31:58 34 23
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"At what point do we accept that we must live with this virus?"

When there has been a suitable amount of vaccinations?
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10/02/2021 12:50:37 47 11
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Probably when the level of deaths and intensive treatment is at the same level of flu.
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10/02/2021 13:05:47 61 9
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Unfortunately the 'COVID deaths' get reported daily by number whereas the flu deaths do not so the sensationalist headline writers get plenty of ammunition.
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IJ
10/02/2021 13:06:55 63 3
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Completely sensible. Very few people understand what risk assessment is. This is never going away - it is about managing your own risk and not finding one solution for 66m people.
10/02/2021 13:50:29 15 12
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Anyone got a list of when Bozo and his Dad have been abroad on holiday within the last 12 months?

Given that the infection and death rate would have been a lot, lot higher without the restrictions, and we have an NHS barely coping, what do you think the outcome would have been with your approach?
10/02/2021 14:18:29 4 17
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There was an election in 2018. The choice was
1 - Vote for support to NHS & better health care OR
2 - Vote for Brexit

UK voted for Brexit.

OK, pandemic was a surprise but there was no surprise how devastating 10 years of austerity has left UK in
NHS on its knees & 14 million living in poverty.

Private health is ok for Switz/Germany/ citizens
but most UK are just 'subjects' & are too poor.
10/02/2021 14:13:14 13 5
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Agreed. This was the perfect time to adjust the population's expectations of the NHS - a system put in place after WW2 to address the needs of a country recovering from war.

With the passing of the generations we now have a system trying to save all lives at any cost with public expectations to match. It should be reset to a best-effort service within the the confines of a set budget.
10/02/2021 14:21:02 11 0
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We will all have different answers to the question about what is an acceptable level of illness and deaths.
I suspect the government know there will be a tipping point when most of 'us' think we should return to 'normal'.
I think by May if the next vaccine groups have been completed then it will be a lot more 'normal' in the UK.
Travel abroad however will be subject to far more unknown variables.
10/02/2021 14:19:37 6 22
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So you think 110000 plus deaths from Covid is socially acceptable just so you can have two weeks in Benidorm?
10/02/2021 14:30:12 0 7
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We have had the rational discussion about it many times and it never fails to be less terrible an idea
Ann
10/02/2021 14:34:01 15 5
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Well said. I think majority is of this opinion but we are shouted down by lockdown fanatics. This mass hysteria needs to end.
10/02/2021 14:34:27 4 3
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Have you seen what it's like in hospitals. Yes it's partly because it's because they are underfunded and understaffed, but it's also because Covid is actually a lot more infectious and dangerous than flu.
10/02/2021 14:38:02 4 12
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Yet another "I'm alright Jack" pilchard.
10/02/2021 14:46:08 9 0
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I have been saying this all along. Chris Whitty has already noted that flue roughly causes 9-20,000 deaths each year (and we have a vaccine for flu so I wonder what it would be without)! And given that immunity from vaccination or infection seems to reduce symptoms, once we have vaccinated the over 50s (i.e. by end of April?), this will help reduce any issues on the NHS.
10/02/2021 14:48:46 6 5
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Your comparing the catching the flu to an highly contagious virus that overwhelms the Health Service in weeks. If you want a discussion it should be about the consistent underfunding to the point of criminality of this gov't so that when anything happens its a Health Crisis.
As for diet etc maybe a ban on advertising cra*p food and better food education in school, like we used to in the 60/70's.
10/02/2021 14:49:36 6 0
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It’s not perfect but we have one of the best health Care systems in the world. And with covid we need more than better diet. But I agree we need a route map outta this mess.
10/02/2021 14:57:02 4 0
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"What we need is much better health care and attention to diet and lifestyle"

Absolutely right. look after oneself and you are unlikely to get ill.
10/02/2021 15:11:50 2 0
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Presumabl you wouldn't say that 100k plus deaths since last March is socially acceptable? Don't forget we are expecting 30k more deaths from cancer treatment delay and a big increase in heart attack / stroke deaths as people are not going to hospital. The big difference between covid and flu is that we have had 100 years to work out how to handle flu so you might need to be a bit more patient.
10/02/2021 15:15:44 0 2
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Do you think the current 1000 deaths a day are acceptable?
Do you think the NHS being blocked with covid and unable to deal with other health measures is acceptable?
Do you think things will get worse or better by "accepting this virus and life going on"?
I think a time where the 16m people most at risk of needing hospital treatment are about to be vaccinated is not the time to remove precautions.
10/02/2021 15:19:04 3 1
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Think about this.

Start of pandemic to 9th November: 50,000 deaths in 9 months. 5.5k a month.

9th November to now: 64,000 deaths in 3 months. 21.3k a month.

and it would have been a little bit worse if it wasn't for Dexamethasone.
10/02/2021 15:22:52 1 2
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But hospitals don't get swamped, and fill ITU departments with patients from flu. I tell you what, let the hospitals fill up with covid patients struggling to breath. Then get yourself in a car accident and then try to complain because the nearest hospital to care for you with an ITU bed is 400 miles from home.
VoR
10/02/2021 15:24:13 1 1
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Perhaps when (a) we have general immune resistance as is the case with flu (which don't forget, killed tens of millions on the path to us building some resistance), and (b) when we have prepared vaccinations prior to the flu reaching us. Diet and lifestyle is important, but at the same time, we are not directly at risk of death or disability because our neighbour didn't exercise enough/eats junk.
10/02/2021 15:24:34 0 3
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Whilst I do take your point, it would no doubt be different if the virus decimated your family then you'd likely be saying 'why is the govt not doing something etc etc'.
10/02/2021 15:27:08 1 0
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This is what happens when you let a totalitarian state do what it wants with your liberties. Never gives them back.
10/02/2021 15:27:56 2 4
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As a Carer in a large care home dementia unit, flu causes almost zero deaths in a given year, Covid caused an excess of 70+ above the usual death rate, try thinking about others instead of your selfish self.
10/02/2021 15:30:47 0 4
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Let me take a guess at your age somewhere between 20 and 40
10/02/2021 15:44:28 4 2
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Totally agree, this happens every year but then there is always someone who claims to know a friend of a friend of a friend who has ended up in Hospital.

I have no idea of the reasons why this scam has reached such proportions that a Government can tell it's citizens that they can't go on holiday.

Soon it will be full-on North Korea in the UK.
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10/02/2021 11:57:46 468 188
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Staycation. Boost the UK ????
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10/02/2021 12:07:02 71 66
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Agreed.

But sadly; there are many who, curiously, don't feel they have had a holiday unless it involves spreading jet-fuel fumes across the skies.
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10/02/2021 12:30:10 3 6
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If you can drive to, and back from your destination within a day, it's not a holiday.
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DG
10/02/2021 12:04:17 763 154
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Book your holiday if you wish, but don't start moaning for Gov help when it all goes pear shaped.

And, don't forget you may need an extra £1750 to get back in, unless you tell lies then you will get free board in the big house.
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Unless your an illegal immigrant, you get the 5 star hotel for free. Removed
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10/02/2021 12:11:48 61 32
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I'm not sure that is the case. Silly Billy.
10/02/2021 14:04:32 4 1
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Wow 5* hotel now how come ? last I saw it was an ex army baracks. Mind you those illegal immigrants are quite resourceful they probably just did the place up. Shame to keep them locked up at tax payers expense. Should let them work and earn the right to stay.
idiot comment. Removed
Better them then some middle England brexshiter. Removed