Plan for campus free speech post prompts autonomy warning
16/02/2021 | news | education | 744
Concerns are raised as ministers announce new free speech role to stop "silencing" in universities.
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16/02/2021 14:29:43 40 3
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No problems with freedom of speech, however I can’t help but think this just another strand to the tiresome culture war. Free speech - yes by all means, hate speech - no thanks.
What is hate speech?
I fear that the streets of South East London are terrorised by gangs of predominantly young black youths dealing drugs. Whenever there is a stabbing crime we should immediately be told the ethnicity of all those involved so that we can accurately gauge the extent to which this true - or not.
Is that hate speech, or merely expressing a rational view?
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16/02/2021 14:47:56 1 2
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Absolutely NOT hate speach. If there is a pattern, be it ethnicity, or maybe a rapid bunch of grannies with balaclavas and walking sticks, we of course should know since i think it pretty reasonable to then be more cautios around that segment of people. It is completely unreasonable and illogical to sue the pattern to day along the lines of 'dont mention the war'
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16/02/2021 14:48:44 4 2
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There’s nothing wrong with letting communities know the names of people/families engaging in criminal behaviour within their neighbourhood. Anything else should not be relevant.
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16/02/2021 15:18:10 3 1
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Really hasn't got anything to do with the topic, has it? It's more of a rant.

If you go back down the centuries (well before immigration) you will find that in poor areas there has always been gang violence.

We wouldn't be watching programmes like Peaky Blinders if what I have just said isn't true.

But you would rather make a big issue out of skin colour, than one of socioeconomics.
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16/02/2021 14:32:42 5 11
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Political defence going on here. Read the other day Farage's new Reform party is concentrating on free speech. Now that may be opportunist on his part. However it is like leaving the eu, a very strongly widespread held view that has been suppressed by the same sort of arrogance of the ruling middle rich class forcing the pc religion & its blasphemy laws on everyone else. Bbc on wrong side again!
Well the BBC have spent the last three years supporting peoples rights to deface, replace or simply destroy every statue in towns that has a remote link to the past. This almost Pol Pot take us back to year zero campaign has been supported by the Liberal elite who hate Britain and its history. Removed
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16/02/2021 14:52:35 2 1
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No it hasn't.

Prove it.
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16/02/2021 15:05:50 1 0
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Factually bogus - and you really DO need to stop reading the Daily Express "Andy"
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16/02/2021 14:55:17 3 0
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'Freedom of speech' counts little without education and experience, vocabulary and understanding. Why the 'quieting' of SAGE on need of material freedom for isolation? Why the stamping of 'NOT GOVERNMENT POLICY' on SAGE eventual listing of logical scenarios, 28.10.20? Truth unto power with tyranny tends to have adverse impacts on career and family and survival. 'Regulators of corruption' TRUSTED?
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16/02/2021 15:11:16 7 3
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The BBC and Iran.

"It's not just the Uni's - The BBC & Channel 4 suppresses free speech EVERY DAY, seeking to promote their own agenda."

Yet you're on here, literally every day, exercising your right to criticise the BBC and exercising your right to free speech on this very platform. So how on earth does that work? You seem very, very confused.
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Remove my comments all you like

Your lucky im debating with you

when the muggles wake up to this controlling woke NONSENSE

They won't debate it

You'll get 2 words

First word starts with F

Second word starts with O

HOUSE RULES?

Wheres that BBC article I seen yesterday?

"Everyone has ran to Parler" ??

"Wheres the fun in that?"

In theroy

Everything is cool

In practice its not
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The National Union of Students, along with the Labour Party, are the chief opponents of free speech in the UK. At University, having been taught to have a mind of my own, I just had to learn to get used to these vile hatemongers ignorantly squealing "fascist!" at anyone who didn't immediately fawn over their hard-line communist agenda. Removed
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16/02/2021 16:01:17 7 6
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It's quite amusing reading the complaints from those who have broken the HYS rules, had a post removed, and then bleat on about "free speech".

It's not about your free speech, it's about adhering to a set of forum rules that everyone else has to. Talk about arrogantly self-entitled.
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What is the BBC's role in this "censorship" debate?
Should the BBC even allow HYS streams on its web site? In doing so is it acting as publisher? or enabling technology platform?
Who appoints the BBC moderators and who moderates the moderators?
Are the BBC's "inclusivity" programmes politically biased?
I contend that the BBC is the ultimate censor and impediment to Free Speech in this country.
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16/02/2021 16:16:38 5 1
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Let’s say I posted “wibble, wobble, I’m a fish”. It’s not offensive, nor does it promote a political viewpoint. However, if it was reported, it would likely be removed as off-topic. This is a forum which has house rules and, when you sign up, you are accepting them.

Your post is also a paradox. You complain about freedom of speech, yet also ask whether the BBC should allow HYS streams.
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16/02/2021 16:24:10 2 0
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You haven't got a grip with the well publicised HYS rules yet, have you?

You are going off on a tangent and are trying to have another debate.
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16/02/2021 16:24:48 2 0
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"Bozo Blithering Clown"
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Step up the next Conservative crony to get their snout in the trough.
This is less about freedom of speech and more about control.
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16/02/2021 16:40:01 5 9
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HYS on free speech, yet many post removed so bbc don’t believe in free speech unless it’s PC on message with a lefty meaning. BBC seen for what it is, sometime BBC put an HYS on a topic that gets out of hand so remove in an hour if is a UK negative left on for days, BBC HYS hilarious lefty nonsense
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16/02/2021 16:41:35 4 11
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Oh the irony of this free speech in universities article where BBC removes post, so hilarious
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16/02/2021 16:57:36 1 3
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Broken record or is it that you’ve been to university and original thought has been removed, free speech is a right of everyone not just lefties
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16/02/2021 16:42:39 29 17
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The Tories as defenders of free speech is on a par with Herod as protector of the firstborn.

Anyone ready for some more doctored videos?
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16/02/2021 16:41:35 4 11
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Oh the irony of this free speech in universities article where BBC removes post, so hilarious
People cheering on here for more 'free speech' while this authoritarian Tory government dismantles democracy through the backdoor on a daily basis.

Cronyism, nepotism and corruption runs rife under this government right in front of our eyes, yet the faux freedom brigade don't ever bat an eyelid at any of it.

I wonder why...
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Free speech only for anti democratic lefty Remoaners .

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16/02/2021 17:17:40 5 1
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Grow up
People are still having a go about Brexit. ”stupid Brexiteers”.

But who were the real stupid ones. Blame was often attributed to “Uneducated. Old. Racist. Northerners”.

I hate to say it, but the truth is Students. They were given an extra month to sign up to vote and didn’t. And so the U.O.S.N. won Brexit debate.

Students have the worst record on voting for a so called educated group.
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16/02/2021 17:31:08 3 0
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Off topic
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16/02/2021 17:31:04 3 0
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Some truth in this unfortunately although to be fair unis are now cash cows and they are stuffed full of overseas students who wouldn't have been eligible to vote anyway
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16/02/2021 17:24:40 4 2
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My previous comment was literally just removed from this article for criticising the government hahaha good one BBC
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Long live free speech. The trouble is that the "Woke" fascist politically correct lefties have infiltrated so many HR depts, universities, parliament, and TV stations that decent, open minded, mature and sensible people have a constant battle on their hands to be fairly heard. However, the silent majority wins out at general elections, we won't be beaten by this pernicious, unpleasant bunch Removed
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16/02/2021 19:57:40 0 0
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Take a bow Sir.
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16/02/2021 19:55:47 1 0
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This is one of the reasons that opinion polls are no longer an accurate reflection of real voting intentions. The silent majority keep their options to themselves for fear of upset. Until they cast their vote that is.
Long live free speech. The trouble is that the "Woke" fascist politically correct lefties have infiltrated so many HR depts, universities, parliament, and TV stations that decent, open minded, mature and sensible people have a constant battle on their hands to be fairly heard. However, the silent majority wins out at general elections, we won't be beaten by this pernicious, unpleasant bunch Removed
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16/02/2021 19:10:47 6 1
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Lot of talk about freedom of speech. Also of history. In Germany in the 1930’s the Nazi party burned books which they said told lies.

Book speak to us so burnings or banning books from being made available to read is a denial of free speech.

Recently Labour MP Jess Philips suggested that the Bible or parts of it should not be taught as it is wrong. freedom?
Coward! Don't try to prevent free speech-especially truth

"The National Union of Students, along with the Labour Party, are the chief opponents of free speech in the UK. At University, having been taught to have a mind of my own, I just had to learn to get used to these vile hatemongers ignorantly squealing "fascist!" at anyone who didn't immediately fawn over their hard-line communist agenda."
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So the lefty free speech haters are on here taking down any posts that give them away. It's almost hilarious, but some of them actually seem to believe that their one sided view is free speech.
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16/02/2021 20:57:31 2 1
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No, the Tories are the ones doing the hate. You have to give the sheeple an enemy. We've had Traitor Remainers, judges, foreigners and now students. Trump tried the same and did a lot of damage before enough people woke up.
So anti semtism, calls to violence and supporting the mass murder of British children are not hate? What do you require? Concentration camps? Labour need to whip up hate or they would have no voters. Sad, because that's not what they were founded for, but it's what Militant and then Momentum were founded on. Removed
UK and US university campuses are the most fascist places on earth. World leaders in left wing intolerance. It never ends well for fascists. Those knuckle dragging left wing social justice stormtroopers should do what they’re supposed to be doing at university - read some history, to learn what’s coming their way. Removed
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Love it. The lefties still taking down anything that clashes with their "Free speech for everyone who agrees with us" dogma.

No wonder they were so spectacularly trounced at the last election.
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16/02/2021 20:33:45 8 5
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Breeding grounds for militant, anarchistic PC left wingers. Were in my day (80's) are still are today. Very vocal, often intimidating & violent even. They are right, everyone else is wrong. Well, let me tell them something; the last election proved the UK public in general don't want you!
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UK and US university campuses are the most fascist places on earth. World leaders in left wing intolerance. It never ends well for fascists. Those knuckle dragging left wing social justice stormtroopers should do what they’re supposed to be doing at university - read some history, to learn what’s coming their way. Removed
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Free speech

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16/02/2021 23:35:20 3 3
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There's a delicious irony in all the devout Tories reporting comments they can't refute and having them deleted, whilst proclaiming themselves champions of free speech.
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16/02/2021 20:19:12 8 3
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The NUS claim there is no problem with free speech, which is ironic as they are one of the main advocates of cancel culture, which the UCU denies even exists.

These people think the only right opinion is theirs and those who share it, and refuse to accept debate or alternative opinions.

They are bigots of the highest order.
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17/02/2021 01:05:37 5 2
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Suck it up snowflake, it's called free speech.

People are allowed to challenge the establishment elite.

Their apologists have no special rights to not be challenged.

You can have any opinion you like and people are free to show the stupidity of any expressed opinion. You can have right wing views, just when those who argue for democracy and justice oppose you, don't go crying to try stop others
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Suck it up snowflake, it's called free speech

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UK and US university campuses are the most fascist places on earth. World leaders in left wing intolerance. It never ends well for fascists. Those knuckle dragging left wing social justice stormtroopers should do what they’re supposed to be doing at university - read some history, to learn what’s coming their way. Removed
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16/02/2021 22:24:00 4 1
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"Plan for campus free speech"

Great idea, please extend the plan to all of society across the UK.
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BTW, I missed out "agree", but what the violent communists really want is for you to submit to them. Those who remember the murder of miners who didn't join a strike called without a National vote know how committed the UK left are to free speech. Removed
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17/02/2021 07:38:48 2 0
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A moronic and fact-free post.
Oh, dear, the lefties still removing anything that proves them wrong, I see. Removed
Free speech

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Sadly, my correction to that was taken down by one of the lefty free speech opponents.
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17/02/2021 08:57:11 3 4
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Virtue signalling ?

Like wearing a poppy, or worshipping Major Tom ?
Captain Tom you dim idiot Removed
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17/02/2021 09:02:16 2 3
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Major Tom, whatever.
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17/02/2021 08:58:11 3 1
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Why is garbage relevant to this debate ?

Doesn't your local authority collect litter ?

What are you prattling on about ?
The poppy is worn to remember people who lost their lives so that morons like you can post your drivel on here Removed
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17/02/2021 09:02:16 2 3
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Major Tom, whatever.
stupid pratt Removed
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17/02/2021 09:04:45 2 2
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Yes, you are.
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17/02/2021 09:05:14 2 1
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You can't even spell "prat".
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17/02/2021 09:10:16 2 0
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doubt it, It was probably just daft.
Free speech works both ways, you plum. Removed
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Major Tom or whatever his name is

offensive title , clownish posts
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17/02/2021 09:23:32 0 0
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Does free speech offend you then ?

How ironic.
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17/02/2021 08:57:11 3 4
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Virtue signalling ?

Like wearing a poppy, or worshipping Major Tom ?
You really are a vile little man. Pathetic lefty snowflake. Removed
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17/02/2021 09:27:11 0 0
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Take a look in the mirror.