Holiday giant Tui bets on summer bounce back
09/02/2021 | news | business | 806
The travel firm expects holiday bookings to be 80% of usual levels thanks to the vaccine programme.
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:14:07 21 7
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And here we have proof of why the BBC needs to stop posting 'PRticles'. Just a couple of weeks ago travel companies, Tui included, were shouting about how there was a great "surge" in holiday booking and citing huge growth figures and the BBC duly obliged with a FOMO-inducing article.

Now we have the inevitable follow-up with cold hard numbers showing a 44% decline in bookings.
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09/02/2021 11:14:50 109 32
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I'll pass thanks, just too many variables for things to go wrong still, maybe 2022
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jon
09/02/2021 13:01:43 23 5
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A jail sentence or £10k fine should focus the mind!
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09/02/2021 11:15:59 7 11
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Optimism is one thing, but to be at 80% of normal capacity is hard to believe.
Summer of 2022 might be a safe bet...

Or will it be a Boris Summer Special with a free whoopie cusion ;-)
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09/02/2021 11:16:33 14 12
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I'm sorry but they should be running at 0%. This govt allowing foreign holidays during a pandemic is a disgrace and one that costs lives - both through the direct health impacts and the indirect economic consequences. When will they learn that to protect the economy, you need to prevent outbreaks - there is no trade-off - and it is overseas travel that spurs outbreaks. Why risk all the good work?
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09/02/2021 11:23:13 8 11
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Given the vaccine rollout will have covered 95% of high risk ages by May, I disagree. However people need to understand that this is a risk and that when planning to go abroad be prepared for the holiday to be cancelled if cases don't drop in target country (and wait for a refund for months), and you need to be prepared to quarantine in a hotel at your own expense for two weeks on the way back.
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09/02/2021 11:24:50 3 2
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Spot on. Its a joke. The first to complain when the get quarantined, cannot get refunds on cancelled holidays or worse still get infected or bring infection back will be these 2.8 million selfish idiots.
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09/02/2021 11:38:07 0 2
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Govt isn't allowing holidays. They are illegal at the current time.
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09/02/2021 11:17:44 228 31
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Great news, 2.8 million TUI bookings already. How long will it take them to process 2.8 million refunds I wonder?
283
09/02/2021 13:03:05 60 6
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Especially with the announcement of £10,000 fines and 10 years in prison for the most serious abuse of the guidelines.
292
09/02/2021 13:05:19 0 3
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Experienced savvy public bet on summer Covid bounce back
299
09/02/2021 13:06:34 5 2
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People must be mad to put their money at risk with travel companies at present, last year we felt that the cruise lines were advertising cruises that they knew would be cancelled and lost our trust completely.
342
09/02/2021 13:17:11 7 4
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Tui and Jet 2 were fantastic with me last summer. My refund from Tui came in within 2 days and its was a Bank Holiday. Jet 2 rearranged easily. People actually want to look forward to something.
414
09/02/2021 13:41:09 2 5
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Funny thing is, yes we might allow flights out because of our better vaccination program, but where do we go? israel? The only other country where the vaccine program is better, who wants to go to Israel where they systematically steal land that is not theirs?
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:19:15 98 17
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And how many people are going to cancel when they see the countries don't lift the bans they put in place, hotel quarantine, potentially on both sides of the journey, means taking a month off work just for a short break.

If it is risk-free booking, fine. But don't come crying when these firms yet again struggle to process so many refunds.
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09/02/2021 11:28:55 54 6
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Refunds? I'd be checking small print very carefully for the covid related policies as I can't imagine they won't be at the very least charging a % for cancellation.
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09/02/2021 12:37:18 9 4
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With most UK adults having had at least one dose of the vaccine by summer I doubt there will be quarantine on the return journey, other than for high risk areas where the SA variant is an issue. But there may well be quarantine for brits arriving in many countries.

Holiday in UK looks the best bet at this stage.
509
09/02/2021 14:11:04 1 0
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It's the Mediterranean countries main source of income so I doubt they won't lift the travel bans with vaccines around. Greece are already talking of re-opening
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09/02/2021 11:16:33 14 12
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I'm sorry but they should be running at 0%. This govt allowing foreign holidays during a pandemic is a disgrace and one that costs lives - both through the direct health impacts and the indirect economic consequences. When will they learn that to protect the economy, you need to prevent outbreaks - there is no trade-off - and it is overseas travel that spurs outbreaks. Why risk all the good work?
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09/02/2021 11:23:13 8 11
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Given the vaccine rollout will have covered 95% of high risk ages by May, I disagree. However people need to understand that this is a risk and that when planning to go abroad be prepared for the holiday to be cancelled if cases don't drop in target country (and wait for a refund for months), and you need to be prepared to quarantine in a hotel at your own expense for two weeks on the way back.
758
09/02/2021 20:52:42 0 0
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That makes no sense, if you are vaccinated you don't need to quarantine and you are at no risk from the virus, irrelevant of the situation in the country you are travelling to.
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09/02/2021 11:23:37 403 78
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'2.8 million customers already booked for its holidays'

And how many of these people ill be moaning when their holidays are cancelled?
You've got to be nuts to book a holiday abroad at the moment
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09/02/2021 11:40:52 172 58
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And you need to know all the facts. Our holiday was cancelled last year due to Covid so we re-arranged it last year. Did you honestly think we would still be in this situation last May?
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09/02/2021 11:43:13 37 12
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Many of these holidays were booked and paid for but postponed from last year due to the Government's Lockdowns prevented people from taking their holidays.
121
09/02/2021 12:27:10 15 6
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They will be along shortly to correct you, saying that their holidays were rescheduled from last year. Then next year they will be telling you that they are rescheduling again. It will become the norm, people won;t go on holiday, they will just have fun sitting round with the family booking and pretending that they are actually going to go somewhere!
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09/02/2021 12:37:10 9 7
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I’ll bet that most of the bookings are people like me who moved their holiday from last year to this in the hope that things would have improved by now! It’ll be interesting to see Tui’s approach this year as they’re likely to have had less new money coming in this year, mainly carry forward bookings!!
176
09/02/2021 12:43:23 11 6
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These will all be deposits and not full amounts. People gambling on getting a summer break in case it is clear by then and prices and demand increase
222
09/02/2021 12:46:09 1 2
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Heathrow are addin £10 to every flight to recover its lost profits from last year.

Dont buy anything at heathrow.
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09/02/2021 12:56:34 0 1
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Even if the holidaymakers had been vaccinated by summer, if the country they are going to hasn't been 100% vaccinated they wouldn't be allowed in to avoid spreading it.
279
09/02/2021 13:01:59 0 1
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..and willing to risk 10 years in jail.
300
09/02/2021 13:07:08 7 3
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2.8 million holidays, which if one turns into a covid hotspot you will each receive a 10,000 pound fine...

Why on earth would you go anywhere right now. I get that they are struggling but this sort of behaviour is actually dangerous
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09/02/2021 13:23:09 4 1
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My holiday last year was cancelled, took about 4 months to get 5k back, but hey ho. Got this year booked, if it gets cancelled, hey ho, I'll get the cash back whenever I get it. Don't live in fear, its time to persevere!
472
09/02/2021 14:01:32 2 1
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.Thank you TUI for giving people hope of a summer holiday this year. Many people had their well earned holidays cancelled last year due to UK Government travel restrictions and lockdowns.
497
09/02/2021 14:07:03 1 0
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My holiday in May 2021 was booked as a result of a cancelled booking for May 2020. I cancelled that in April 2020 and carried the booking forward for a year, so that I did not lose the deposit I had already paid. I guess a lot of people are in the same boat. I have just done the same thing today - cancelled May 2021 and booked May 2022 instead,.
622
09/02/2021 14:55:38 1 0
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I've booked one, but fully expecting it to get moved, and Tui have a decent Covid policy so if it does it does.

And if it does I won't moan, but if it doesn't I've got a bargain!
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09/02/2021 11:24:39 128 7
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Yet again the travel industry trying to talk up bookings.

You can always spot the hype when they use phrases such as "this is shown by the already good number of bookings for the summer".

I wish all businesses well but trying to hype up bookings at this stage of the pandemic is foolish.
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09/02/2021 11:46:21 78 12
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exactly, the devil is in the detail which is always missing from BBC reporting.
143
09/02/2021 12:36:53 12 3
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It's a form of hard sell; book now or you'll miss out

And now with free advertising from the gullible anonymous BBC journalist.
542
09/02/2021 14:23:32 0 2
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It is also grossly irresponsible. The industry should compensate us all for willfully transporting the virus around the world. Covid does not move by itself.
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09/02/2021 11:16:33 14 12
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I'm sorry but they should be running at 0%. This govt allowing foreign holidays during a pandemic is a disgrace and one that costs lives - both through the direct health impacts and the indirect economic consequences. When will they learn that to protect the economy, you need to prevent outbreaks - there is no trade-off - and it is overseas travel that spurs outbreaks. Why risk all the good work?
10
09/02/2021 11:24:50 3 2
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Spot on. Its a joke. The first to complain when the get quarantined, cannot get refunds on cancelled holidays or worse still get infected or bring infection back will be these 2.8 million selfish idiots.
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09/02/2021 11:26:45 4 9
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Given the problems with exports for British product due to EU paperwork, we should return the favour by asking people to fill in massive amounts of forms to travel abroad to the EU, one for each person. Result, EU summer travel would collapse and Spain, France, Greece, Italy etc would all start to apply more sensible approach to the whole EU paperwork thing
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09/02/2021 11:36:03 1 4
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Well done Alex,

Starting a trade war with your biggest trading partner has been successful in helping exactly how many countries economically recover in the past?

I can't think of a single example but I'm sure you can (I will need your source).

The EU is treating us like a 3rd country, if you don't like being treated like one why did you vote for Brexit?
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09/02/2021 11:37:54 0 1
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"EU paperwork". That's what you voted for so stop bleating.
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09/02/2021 11:27:14 178 31
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Crazy!
No idea of what any new variants maybe around in months to come.
No idea if anything will be open at the places you're travelling to.

I know we're all bored of doing nothing, but there's no way id book a holiday at present
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09/02/2021 12:18:32 60 87
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With most companies offering free amendments and cancellations, you'd be crazy not to consider booking early before the mad rush and before prices go up.

Some destinations will require a face mask but you're used to that already I would imagine.
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09/02/2021 12:46:36 5 7
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I've booked flights for September-October this year and January-February next year. I had easyJet and Ryanair vouchers to use. Hoping to have vouchers or refunds if again not able to fly.
282
09/02/2021 13:02:37 19 1
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Whats crazy is the amount of people who have not grasped the reality of the situation. COVID isnt going anywhere. Vaccinations/immunity reduce the symptoms + possibly reduce transmission. However, not everyone will be protected + vaccines will need regular updates. Therefore, going forward we need to accept at least some COVID deaths or hide away forever, and hiding is not really an option.
695
09/02/2021 15:50:17 0 0
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Yup. I'd rather stay home; relatively safe and (still) healthy than risk a holiday anywhere; other parts of the UK included - so any thought of abroad is completely nuts - to me, anyway.
729
09/02/2021 17:25:30 0 0
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Same boredom same no booking of holidays until at least Q3 one cannot make any future plans at the moment and booking a holiday is a future plan.
748
09/02/2021 20:40:17 0 0
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Boring
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09/02/2021 11:27:37 90 43
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Anyone who books foreign holiday for this year needs their head examined.
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09/02/2021 12:36:57 11 33
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We had holidays last year yet we will be in a better position this summer ?
654
09/02/2021 15:15:02 1 0
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Some people live in hope! Think of those that have been locked away for nearly a year, following the lockdown rules. They want a date in their diaries for something to look forward to once travel can commence. If they can’t, due to the FCO advice then by law the travel company is obliged to offer a full refund/postponement. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with you if you desire to travel in 2021!
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09/02/2021 11:28:24 28 11
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Nearly 3 million people have booked holidays, which is madness as they have no certainty of travel in the current climate. It will be interesting to see the reaction if any of these holidays are cancelled. Self inflicted misery should get a penny.
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:19:15 98 17
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And how many people are going to cancel when they see the countries don't lift the bans they put in place, hotel quarantine, potentially on both sides of the journey, means taking a month off work just for a short break.

If it is risk-free booking, fine. But don't come crying when these firms yet again struggle to process so many refunds.
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09/02/2021 11:28:55 54 6
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Refunds? I'd be checking small print very carefully for the covid related policies as I can't imagine they won't be at the very least charging a % for cancellation.
286
09/02/2021 13:01:37 4 1
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Check your facts! Travel companies can’t charge cancellation charges if the FCO advises against travel to that destination. You’ll get a full refund or opportunity to postpone your trip.
792
10/02/2021 01:49:21 0 0
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And insurance..people are forgetting we are not in EU anymore, insurance will be sky high, £80 test for adults going out and coming in also test for over 11s at £80 out and in..!! And as for Greece bunch liars, saying no Covid all they are bothered about is getting tourists money!
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09/02/2021 11:30:59 3 2
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So just what is the message?
People should get vaccinated and go ahead and book a holiday?
Or the world is full of mutating viruses and essential travellers can expect to face testing and quarantine and everyone else should stay home, protect the NHS etc?
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09/02/2021 11:32:04 30 23
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Getting vaccinated may well prevent you from contracting Covid-19 but it does not guarantee that you will not spread it.

All international air travel should be banned until this pandemic is 100% under control.
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09/02/2021 11:37:15 11 8
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Define "100% under control"?
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09/02/2021 11:41:58 17 3
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100% under control? This will never happen.

Come out from behind your sofa!
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09/02/2021 11:35:17 56 6
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Just read the Tui Refund Guarantee, seems to be quite a few exceptions.

No refund if Government restrictions mean you have to isolate on your return, so could be two weeks in the sun then two weeks locked up isolating.

No refund if you decide to cancel, only if Tui decides to cancel.

There would be plenty of capacity to book last minute if things change so why would you want to take the risk
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09/02/2021 11:41:31 5 40
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Be careful you don't liable yourself with this erroneous comment!
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:45:49 10 3
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We won't finish adult vaccination until autumn, which is when the new jab to cater for the mutation will arrive. Until that arrives we won't want to bring in more of that mutation, or new ones.

For that reason, even if case figures in the country are low and some freedoms have been restored, it is quite clear that hotel quarantine will run until at least the autumn.
291
09/02/2021 13:04:59 4 1
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The most annoying, for me, is the caveat that anything booked before 22nd December isn't covered by their "covid guarantee" so if you booked/re-booked 21st December you don't get free amendments but if you booked literally a day later you will.
351
09/02/2021 13:20:02 2 1
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cost me £400 to cancel my holiday this year....robbers!!1
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09/02/2021 11:26:45 4 9
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Given the problems with exports for British product due to EU paperwork, we should return the favour by asking people to fill in massive amounts of forms to travel abroad to the EU, one for each person. Result, EU summer travel would collapse and Spain, France, Greece, Italy etc would all start to apply more sensible approach to the whole EU paperwork thing
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09/02/2021 11:36:03 1 4
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Well done Alex,

Starting a trade war with your biggest trading partner has been successful in helping exactly how many countries economically recover in the past?

I can't think of a single example but I'm sure you can (I will need your source).

The EU is treating us like a 3rd country, if you don't like being treated like one why did you vote for Brexit?
29
09/02/2021 11:40:52 0 1
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Remainers voted for Brexit. Or rather the millions of people opposed to Brexit inexplicably failed to vote for the only party promising to Stop Brexit in the Dec 2019 election. If the 16m referendum Leave voters had voted Lib Dem, Brexit would have been stopped.

Seems making a "protest" about tuition fees from 10 years ago was more important to the Remainers than stopping Brexit.

Weird, huh?
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09/02/2021 11:36:58 20 3
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These are pipe dreams! Even if the UK makes good progress with its vaccinations, the rest of Europe is lagging behind badly as seen in the news recently. You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated, so where exactly are these holiday destinations when the UK won't using "Vaccine Passports" either!? I think no-one will be going anywhere other than holidaying in the UK!
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09/02/2021 11:43:19 15 8
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"You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated,"

No that's a common misconception, there is currently no evidence for the reduction in transmission caused by vaccination, that is not the same thing as it doesn't reduce transmission.

1st results from Israel are beginning to get a handle on this and it appears that all vaccines are reducing transmission but we don't by how much.
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09/02/2021 11:32:04 30 23
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Getting vaccinated may well prevent you from contracting Covid-19 but it does not guarantee that you will not spread it.

All international air travel should be banned until this pandemic is 100% under control.
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09/02/2021 11:37:15 11 8
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Define "100% under control"?
11
09/02/2021 11:26:45 4 9
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Given the problems with exports for British product due to EU paperwork, we should return the favour by asking people to fill in massive amounts of forms to travel abroad to the EU, one for each person. Result, EU summer travel would collapse and Spain, France, Greece, Italy etc would all start to apply more sensible approach to the whole EU paperwork thing
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09/02/2021 11:37:54 0 1
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"EU paperwork". That's what you voted for so stop bleating.
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09/02/2021 11:38:04 3 2
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Booked Italy in August on the promise of a refund if it gets cancelled. I expect the booking company to somehow weasel out of refunding anything. Even if it does go ahead what restrictions and limitations might be in place? What about the economies of Covid testing - potentially 5 separate tests at the moment and 10 days in enforced quarantine at £800 each?

Mad? Probably, but I live in hope!
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09/02/2021 11:41:16 2 3
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Mad, well said ??
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09/02/2021 11:16:33 14 12
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I'm sorry but they should be running at 0%. This govt allowing foreign holidays during a pandemic is a disgrace and one that costs lives - both through the direct health impacts and the indirect economic consequences. When will they learn that to protect the economy, you need to prevent outbreaks - there is no trade-off - and it is overseas travel that spurs outbreaks. Why risk all the good work?
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09/02/2021 11:38:07 0 2
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Govt isn't allowing holidays. They are illegal at the current time.
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09/02/2021 11:38:55 7 1
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Far to early to be even thinking about booking a holiday. We’ve no idea what restrictions will be in place here never mind the country you’re travelling to. If there’s still a risk of holidays being cancelled it’s not worth the hassle.
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09/02/2021 21:03:16 0 0
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Speak for yourself
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09/02/2021 11:39:33 2 3
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??????????
66
09/02/2021 12:16:33 1 1
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Why not trying to use English as a means of conveying your opinion?
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09/02/2021 11:39:36 80 9
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How many of those 2.8M bookings are people rolling over holidays they couldn't have last year?

I haven't booked a new one but I still have the one I booked in 2019 that was originally supposed to happen in Oct half term. It's currently booked for May half term but I'll be delaying as soon as the Govt confirms I won't be able to travel then.

I don't think these holidays will go ahead this summer.
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09/02/2021 12:21:25 14 49
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May half term? You'll be fine. The worst case scenario is a test at airport so it might be worth limiting contact as much as possible for a week or 2 before you travel.

However in the unlikely event you would have to quarantine on arrival then you'll be able to put things back to October.

No worries :)
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09/02/2021 12:34:13 5 3
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I expect the British variant (funny how it's not Chinese but can be South African or British) will be used to stop us travelling out of the country by other countries rather than us having a problem with you returning.
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09/02/2021 12:49:25 1 2
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Yes ours was transferred last march from may 2020 to this may never expected to be in same position if we cancel loose £1400 in deposits we won't even all have vacine by then
239
09/02/2021 12:49:49 1 3
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7 of mines from last year have been rescheduled for this year lol
368
09/02/2021 13:24:47 0 1
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Ours is what was moved over from last year. We don't want to go but no way will TUI do the right thing and give us back the 8 grand of ours they have had for more than a year now. Unfair to make people wait until 2 weeks before they travel to cancel it too.
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09/02/2021 11:39:40 4 6
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Millions of people have holidays waiting that they booked and paid for last year that they couldn't take due to Lockdown and they now want to take their holidays this summer. Let the sunshine!
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09/02/2021 11:36:03 1 4
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Well done Alex,

Starting a trade war with your biggest trading partner has been successful in helping exactly how many countries economically recover in the past?

I can't think of a single example but I'm sure you can (I will need your source).

The EU is treating us like a 3rd country, if you don't like being treated like one why did you vote for Brexit?
29
09/02/2021 11:40:52 0 1
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Remainers voted for Brexit. Or rather the millions of people opposed to Brexit inexplicably failed to vote for the only party promising to Stop Brexit in the Dec 2019 election. If the 16m referendum Leave voters had voted Lib Dem, Brexit would have been stopped.

Seems making a "protest" about tuition fees from 10 years ago was more important to the Remainers than stopping Brexit.

Weird, huh?
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09/02/2021 11:23:37 403 78
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'2.8 million customers already booked for its holidays'

And how many of these people ill be moaning when their holidays are cancelled?
You've got to be nuts to book a holiday abroad at the moment
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09/02/2021 11:40:52 172 58
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And you need to know all the facts. Our holiday was cancelled last year due to Covid so we re-arranged it last year. Did you honestly think we would still be in this situation last May?
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09/02/2021 11:48:04 40 17
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Most certainly I did and my GP said last May there would be a 2nd wave with further mutations evolving.
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:48:06 32 6
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Given that last summer Boris had started to hype up the importance of the flu jab and how COVID could return in the winter, like the flu does, yes - it was entirely clear.

Especially as globally cases never stopped growing until a few weeks ago and deaths continue to grow.
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09/02/2021 12:27:37 10 2
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Yes.
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09/02/2021 12:38:35 16 4
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Yes, what was there to show that the situation would change
Who, what, where has there been at any point other than advertising to push “ all will be fine “
Ostrich mentality
199
09/02/2021 12:47:00 5 2
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Anyone with half a brain would know that it would be extremely likely.
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09/02/2021 12:47:42 2 1
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The answer to that is...yes!!! Cannot believe anyone would think otherwise!!
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col
09/02/2021 12:49:47 0 5
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Yes, it was obvious this was nowhere near over and would last until the entire human race is vaccinated.
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09/02/2021 13:04:15 1 1
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Yes to be honest we did. We had four cruises cancelled upto December 2020, and looking at how the virus was impacting the world, we decided to not book anything else. We cannot see any holiday this year outside of our country, which is really a pane in the backside for us.
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09/02/2021 13:09:49 0 1
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Yes
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09/02/2021 13:05:30 0 1
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Yes
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09/02/2021 13:34:41 0 1
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yes, i understand science, and chemistry, and what deluded means
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09/02/2021 13:35:08 0 1
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Yes
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09/02/2021 13:52:45 0 1
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Yes
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09/02/2021 13:55:33 0 1
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I'm in exactly the same boat, holiday to France last July, was cancelled, I rearranged to mid June this year - genuinely thought that would be absolutely fine. Now looks dubious at best. Or if I am able to go it will cost me 2 COVID tests and the potential of £1750 hotel stay (more than holiday) if France's status changes while I'm away
501
09/02/2021 14:07:55 1 0
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Honestly, yes!
Genuinely, hope you get (and enjoy) your holiday though
530
09/02/2021 14:18:28 0 0
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So because it was cancelled you are going to have a compromised version of the same holiday this year.... Good luck.. Even if you go (unlikely), everything will be closed.
546
09/02/2021 14:25:05 0 1
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Yes I knew we would still be in the same situation. It was very easy to see where this was going all along. It's called logic and common sense! You obviously believe everything your told. I wish I had blinkers and could go along with this rubbish but I can see through it all
547
09/02/2021 14:25:14 0 0
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Actually it was more than likely!
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09/02/2021 14:27:51 0 0
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yes
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09/02/2021 14:42:59 0 0
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Yes.
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09/02/2021 14:50:15 0 0
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Yes. It was quite clear we would still be in this situation. Covid-19 is a highly contagious virus and we made no attempt to eliminate it (unlike some). What did you expect to happen?

There is zero chance of overseas holidays this summer.
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09/02/2021 11:38:04 3 2
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Booked Italy in August on the promise of a refund if it gets cancelled. I expect the booking company to somehow weasel out of refunding anything. Even if it does go ahead what restrictions and limitations might be in place? What about the economies of Covid testing - potentially 5 separate tests at the moment and 10 days in enforced quarantine at £800 each?

Mad? Probably, but I live in hope!
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09/02/2021 11:41:16 2 3
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Mad, well said ??
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09/02/2021 11:35:17 56 6
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Just read the Tui Refund Guarantee, seems to be quite a few exceptions.

No refund if Government restrictions mean you have to isolate on your return, so could be two weeks in the sun then two weeks locked up isolating.

No refund if you decide to cancel, only if Tui decides to cancel.

There would be plenty of capacity to book last minute if things change so why would you want to take the risk
32
09/02/2021 11:41:31 5 40
bbc
Be careful you don't liable yourself with this erroneous comment!
434
09/02/2021 13:49:06 3 1
bbc
liable?
523
09/02/2021 14:16:07 1 0
bbc
* libel
687
09/02/2021 15:45:46 0 0
bbc
Where is the "liable" highlighting what is in the T&Cs?
17
09/02/2021 11:32:04 30 23
bbc
Getting vaccinated may well prevent you from contracting Covid-19 but it does not guarantee that you will not spread it.

All international air travel should be banned until this pandemic is 100% under control.
33
09/02/2021 11:41:58 17 3
bbc
100% under control? This will never happen.

Come out from behind your sofa!
34
09/02/2021 11:42:10 151 20
bbc
If you book a holiday fine, but don't complain if you get stuck.
208
09/02/2021 12:47:53 36 6
bbc
I wouldn't!
209
09/02/2021 12:39:29 10 4
bbc
And don't expect tax payers to fund flights to come and rescue you either!
563
09/02/2021 14:29:31 0 1
bbc
I'd happily be stuck anywhere but the UK (I've spend half my life overseas).
569
09/02/2021 14:33:06 1 0
bbc
It's strange, but 2019 WHO pandemic guidelines, based on decades of scientific pandemic research including previous coronaviruses, advised against border closures, quarantining of those who are ill, track and trace. Also concluded that masks had little impact. These were all stated early last year, then in May, for some strange reason, they changed their mind under political pressure. Go figure.
8
09/02/2021 11:23:37 403 78
bbc
'2.8 million customers already booked for its holidays'

And how many of these people ill be moaning when their holidays are cancelled?
You've got to be nuts to book a holiday abroad at the moment
35
09/02/2021 11:43:13 37 12
bbc
Many of these holidays were booked and paid for but postponed from last year due to the Government's Lockdowns prevented people from taking their holidays.
20
09/02/2021 11:36:58 20 3
bbc
These are pipe dreams! Even if the UK makes good progress with its vaccinations, the rest of Europe is lagging behind badly as seen in the news recently. You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated, so where exactly are these holiday destinations when the UK won't using "Vaccine Passports" either!? I think no-one will be going anywhere other than holidaying in the UK!
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09/02/2021 11:43:19 15 8
bbc
"You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated,"

No that's a common misconception, there is currently no evidence for the reduction in transmission caused by vaccination, that is not the same thing as it doesn't reduce transmission.

1st results from Israel are beginning to get a handle on this and it appears that all vaccines are reducing transmission but we don't by how much.
51
09/02/2021 12:05:09 8 4
bbc
So in short the original comment was correct - "You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated"
223
09/02/2021 12:50:04 3 1
bbc
Reduce, not eliminate therefore you CAN still carry it and pass it on.
37
09/02/2021 11:44:58 113 16
bbc
I applaud people's optimism, but I hope they're prepared that their holidays may not happen and, if they do happen, that they conduct themselves in line with whatever guidance is in place in respect of covid measures at the time.

We already have enough people making things worse by seeing what they can get away with. Think instead of what you can do to help.
235
09/02/2021 12:53:46 64 20
bbc
You can all help by not going abroad at all! That's how this thing spread in the first place!
688
09/02/2021 15:46:19 0 1
bbc
You really are miserable aren't you. Did you really need to type that? Typical negative narrative.
18
09/02/2021 11:35:17 56 6
bbc
Just read the Tui Refund Guarantee, seems to be quite a few exceptions.

No refund if Government restrictions mean you have to isolate on your return, so could be two weeks in the sun then two weeks locked up isolating.

No refund if you decide to cancel, only if Tui decides to cancel.

There would be plenty of capacity to book last minute if things change so why would you want to take the risk
38
Bob
09/02/2021 11:45:49 10 3
bbc
We won't finish adult vaccination until autumn, which is when the new jab to cater for the mutation will arrive. Until that arrives we won't want to bring in more of that mutation, or new ones.

For that reason, even if case figures in the country are low and some freedoms have been restored, it is quite clear that hotel quarantine will run until at least the autumn.
9
09/02/2021 11:24:39 128 7
bbc
Yet again the travel industry trying to talk up bookings.

You can always spot the hype when they use phrases such as "this is shown by the already good number of bookings for the summer".

I wish all businesses well but trying to hype up bookings at this stage of the pandemic is foolish.
39
09/02/2021 11:46:21 78 12
bbc
exactly, the devil is in the detail which is always missing from BBC reporting.
335
09/02/2021 13:13:45 2 3
bbc
Doubt reporters actually understand any of what they are being told by scientists. The detail will be lost on most and they are the conduit for our news! Heaven help us.
671
09/02/2021 15:23:56 1 0
bbc
Well, BBC is no longer "reporting", it's more "social media trawling".
40
09/02/2021 11:47:36 29 6
bbc
I can hear them now complaining about the new UK variant that's going to mutate in June. And why didn't the government tell them about it.
59
09/02/2021 12:12:05 6 7
bbc
Manchester, now
99
09/02/2021 12:27:46 4 2
bbc
Yes I find it interesting that we are told it is seasonal, but the only reason for the dip in rates last summer was because of the first lockdown.

After all if it IS seasonal then why are rates from South Africa (where it is now their summer) so high?
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09/02/2021 11:40:52 172 58
bbc
And you need to know all the facts. Our holiday was cancelled last year due to Covid so we re-arranged it last year. Did you honestly think we would still be in this situation last May?
41
09/02/2021 11:48:04 40 17
bbc
Most certainly I did and my GP said last May there would be a 2nd wave with further mutations evolving.
94
09/02/2021 12:27:02 43 10
bbc
You spoke to a GP????

I'm surprised the BBC aren't running with your story!
135
09/02/2021 12:34:40 9 23
bbc
They could have mutated down and become significantly weaker.

But you thought you would choose to forget that bit in your comment.
201
09/02/2021 12:47:08 8 1
bbc
Not hard is it, you only have to look at historic pandemics to see the pattern. I am sure most GPs were rolling their eyes last year when folks thought it would be over by autumn!
30
09/02/2021 11:40:52 172 58
bbc
And you need to know all the facts. Our holiday was cancelled last year due to Covid so we re-arranged it last year. Did you honestly think we would still be in this situation last May?
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:48:06 32 6
bbc
Given that last summer Boris had started to hype up the importance of the flu jab and how COVID could return in the winter, like the flu does, yes - it was entirely clear.

Especially as globally cases never stopped growing until a few weeks ago and deaths continue to grow.
43
09/02/2021 11:51:44 8 9
bbc
Clearly ,many people just don't care about the risks and don't care about the planet
47
09/02/2021 12:01:22 2 3
bbc
I think capping the number of flights to a sustainable level and improving greener alternatives would be a good idea. We also need to mindful of the circa 10% of people who rely on tourism to feed their families. If you are a high covid19 risk get vaccinated, if you are under 50 and healthy, your risk is under 1 in 10k, a risk-free live is not worth living.
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ian
09/02/2021 12:09:34 2 1
bbc
We only live once
44
09/02/2021 11:52:51 2 3
bbc
Providing they follow the rules and don’t expect the tax payer to fork out for their pre and post travel tests.
They also need to ensure that any travel operator covers them for Covid cancellation, TUI does as it goes.
45
09/02/2021 11:52:05 77 17
bbc
Booking an overseas holiday for 2021 is the height of folly in my opinion.

I trust all those with bookings can afford to pay for hotel quarantine if necessary.
46
09/02/2021 12:01:01 55 9
bbc
Pay £3k for a holiday then another £2k to stay in a hotel back in the UK. Makes sense !!
373
09/02/2021 13:27:39 2 3
bbc
Living in perpetual fear is the height of folly! Should we make no plans in the premise that we may develop cancer or a debilitating disease, or get run down by a bus walking down the street?

You've got to give yourself something to look forward to! And if I have to pay an extra 2k for a hotel, so be it. At least I'll have had a nice holiday!
440
09/02/2021 13:51:11 1 0
bbc
not folly for the travel cos. they want travelers packed and ready as soon as the announcement is made
607
09/02/2021 14:48:28 0 0
bbc
Most of those holidays are roll-overs. I booked my honeymoon in 2019 for August 2020. Had it moved to August 2021. Fairly sure I'll be moving it again to next year!
649
09/02/2021 15:09:34 1 0
bbc
Nobody will be booking holidays on the red list, most of them are hardly holiday destinations anyway.
45
09/02/2021 11:52:05 77 17
bbc
Booking an overseas holiday for 2021 is the height of folly in my opinion.

I trust all those with bookings can afford to pay for hotel quarantine if necessary.
46
09/02/2021 12:01:01 55 9
bbc
Pay £3k for a holiday then another £2k to stay in a hotel back in the UK. Makes sense !!
673
09/02/2021 15:25:54 0 0
bbc
Totally un-necessary.. just a money making scam. Why not just isolate at home, same as everyone else who gets it does? You can travel on public transport to the hotel FFS!
690
09/02/2021 15:47:08 0 0
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It'll be more than £2k by then. Prices always go up when there's high demand, especially in the Summer
43
09/02/2021 11:51:44 8 9
bbc
Clearly ,many people just don't care about the risks and don't care about the planet
47
09/02/2021 12:01:22 2 3
bbc
I think capping the number of flights to a sustainable level and improving greener alternatives would be a good idea. We also need to mindful of the circa 10% of people who rely on tourism to feed their families. If you are a high covid19 risk get vaccinated, if you are under 50 and healthy, your risk is under 1 in 10k, a risk-free live is not worth living.
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09/02/2021 12:02:09 22 1
bbc
Don't trust the direction of the pandemic yet - don't trust how other countries will be affected and put restrictions on UK - don't trust any travel insurance - only trust caution that 2022 is a safer bet !
49
09/02/2021 12:04:25 75 15
bbc
It is currently illegal to take a foreign holiday, and no-one knows when this is likely to change.
167
09/02/2021 12:42:10 38 62
bbc
Take a long look at your comment and realise what a shocking state of affairs the lockdown lunatics have brought us to.
629
09/02/2021 14:58:50 0 0
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The summer most likely. It started in July last year with no vaccine so count on it being earlier this year!!
50
09/02/2021 12:05:05 44 5
bbc
Well Greece has said it will only except visitors that are fully vaccinated, two jabs, so that means maybe only the 70s and 80s will be able to go, no one will have two by summer, plus what about people under 50 , they may not even had first jab by summer, plus covid testing before you enter, where and how.
169
09/02/2021 12:42:36 18 5
bbc
I expect anyone who has not had at least one jab by July will have turned it down.
551
09/02/2021 14:26:31 2 0
bbc
I had my first jab on Saturday and my second is already scheduled....for May 1st. So you're plain wrong in saying "no one will have two by summer".
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dan
09/02/2021 14:27:42 1 0
bbc
Makes sense doesn't it, only the most vulnerable will be able to travel haha!!
633
09/02/2021 15:00:28 0 0
bbc
Greece's main source of income. Expect that to change rapidly!!
693
09/02/2021 15:49:23 0 0
bbc
I don't think you except - the opposite in fact?
36
09/02/2021 11:43:19 15 8
bbc
"You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated,"

No that's a common misconception, there is currently no evidence for the reduction in transmission caused by vaccination, that is not the same thing as it doesn't reduce transmission.

1st results from Israel are beginning to get a handle on this and it appears that all vaccines are reducing transmission but we don't by how much.
51
09/02/2021 12:05:09 8 4
bbc
So in short the original comment was correct - "You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated"
68
09/02/2021 12:16:54 3 1
bbc
Yes, that’s what was reported on the news yesterday, they just don’t know the percentage risks yet as not enough data.
52
09/02/2021 12:07:45 9 1
bbc
Unless other countries lift restrictions, which currently include pre travel pcr tests and testing on arrival the other end and quarantine 80% seems to be pie in the sky thinking. Add all the extra costs involved it's not worth chancing a booking unless you have your own place and can stay for a longer period of time.
53
09/02/2021 12:09:28 23 3
bbc
Some people taking a gamble here and if it fails no doubt they’ll blame Boris but they’ll only have themselves to blame
43
09/02/2021 11:51:44 8 9
bbc
Clearly ,many people just don't care about the risks and don't care about the planet
54
ian
09/02/2021 12:09:34 2 1
bbc
We only live once
55
09/02/2021 12:09:52 4 2
bbc
Edging their bets on this one. From the conversations with work colleagues who are the best indicators, there is no real appetite for going abroad.
56
09/02/2021 12:10:38 253 24
bbc
Prof Johnathan Van Tam and Prof Chris Whitty are both exceptional intelligent people, it is extremely irritating that journalists waste their question on things like

"When can people book a summer holiday?"

Are you kidding me..?!
61
09/02/2021 12:13:13 98 13
bbc
Yes Van Tam was pretty clear on this in last night's press conference
98
09/02/2021 12:27:31 27 3
bbc
Well said. Some (most) journos just ask banal questions so they can ‘be seen’ to be doing their job. Most of them don’t understand the answers being given by ‘the experts’ anyway !
111
09/02/2021 12:30:33 16 4
bbc
Yes exactly, the questions asked are diabolical sometimes, too repetitive, noticed Matt kept quiet this time about having booked his Corwall holiday!
294
09/02/2021 13:05:47 9 1
bbc
Agreed... the standard questions of “journalists” in these Q&A sessions is laughable
301
09/02/2021 13:07:38 10 1
bbc
Yes the reporters are pretty dense with their questioning.
418
09/02/2021 13:42:03 13 1
bbc
Journalists have been the cause of many problems during the pandemic.
559
09/02/2021 14:29:05 1 3
bbc
Yeah that clever they didn't know that a face mask would slow down the spread of an air born virus ... Puppets or muppets you take your pick but they are both in my opinion
564
09/02/2021 14:30:46 4 0
bbc
Journalism has to be the lowest of the low professions. Scandalous sensationalist's that talk cobblers for a living.
575
09/02/2021 14:36:11 1 0
bbc
Maybe the press should ask them if they have any conflicts of interests in giving the advice that they are giving. That would be a good question for a change.
728
09/02/2021 17:24:11 0 0
bbc
Hilarious. By the way it is Jean Claude van Damme and Sam Witwicky from Transformers. Oh if only Octopus Prime, Bee and the wreckers could help us out with this Covid thing. Maybe they could get an element from Cybetron to kill the virus
57
09/02/2021 12:11:19 46 12
bbc
How? Even though the vaccine program in the UK is going well the destination countries are way behind us.

Also with quarantine rules who can afford the extra time off work?

I'd say forgot it this year & look to 2022 at the earliest.
754
09/02/2021 20:49:12 0 0
bbc
Some of us are retired
58
09/02/2021 12:11:25 18 6
bbc
Look THE VIRUS in the eyes and decide whether you can go on holiday....
40
09/02/2021 11:47:36 29 6
bbc
I can hear them now complaining about the new UK variant that's going to mutate in June. And why didn't the government tell them about it.
59
09/02/2021 12:12:05 6 7
bbc
Manchester, now
60
09/02/2021 12:13:09 4 2
bbc
Concentrated demand, higher prices, ever-changing travel requirements? Not this season, thank you; not even UK destinations, likely to be ever so crowded, even though authorities will do their best to make social distancing viable.
56
09/02/2021 12:10:38 253 24
bbc
Prof Johnathan Van Tam and Prof Chris Whitty are both exceptional intelligent people, it is extremely irritating that journalists waste their question on things like

"When can people book a summer holiday?"

Are you kidding me..?!
61
09/02/2021 12:13:13 98 13
bbc
Yes Van Tam was pretty clear on this in last night's press conference
62
Ian
09/02/2021 12:13:33 45 9
bbc
They need to remember an overseas holiday involves a 2nd country - so even if by some miracle we have vaccinated enough to remove restrictions here - if Spain is still in partial lockdown whilst it vaccinates you are not going to be able to have a "normal" holiday.

Would be safer (financially, mentally and maybe helth wise) to plan on a UK hol this year or just wait it out for a year
753
09/02/2021 20:48:37 1 0
bbc
Uk weather no thanks
63
09/02/2021 12:14:32 19 2
bbc
Methinks they may have bet on a loser.
64
09/02/2021 12:15:08 6 4
bbc
So of 2.8 million customers booked what % of those are holidays booked for 2020 which have been rolled over to 2021 ? I would suggest a minority of 2021 bookings are actually new bookings. Not sure UK consumers share Mr Joussens confidence.
65
09/02/2021 12:15:31 54 13
bbc
Forget it for this year i'm afraid, sorry Mr Tui
663
09/02/2021 15:17:57 4 4
bbc
What a heartless thing to say when so many people in the travel industry are struggling to put bread on the table for their families because their industry is on its knees following nearly a year of travel restrictions.
26
09/02/2021 11:39:33 2 3
bbc
??????????
66
09/02/2021 12:16:33 1 1
bbc
Why not trying to use English as a means of conveying your opinion?
67
09/02/2021 12:16:54 21 5
bbc
That will be 2.8 million refunds then
116
09/02/2021 12:31:53 12 1
bbc
Should have said 2.8 million partial refunds eventually !!
51
09/02/2021 12:05:09 8 4
bbc
So in short the original comment was correct - "You can still carry covid and pass it on even if vaccinated"
68
09/02/2021 12:16:54 3 1
bbc
Yes, that’s what was reported on the news yesterday, they just don’t know the percentage risks yet as not enough data.
69
09/02/2021 12:17:15 24 6
bbc
Betting on Summer 2021?! They've got big balls.

I've written 2021 off and only hoping on a few day trips around August.
707
09/02/2021 16:06:42 2 0
bbc
You've got nothing to look forward except another year hiding under your duvet!! Might as well call it a day.
70
09/02/2021 12:17:52 45 4
bbc
This is just a cynical way for companies like TUI to boost the balance sheets and then hope to keep the money by delaying refunds or moving bookings to the following year.
71
09/02/2021 12:17:59 2 3
bbc
The amount of debt this company has taken on in the last 12 months and people still think its a good share. Its finished will be broken up once this summer flops
72
09/02/2021 12:18:03 0 6
bbc
Book with a compa8that let thomas cook go belly up I dont think let them collapse and see if their german staff will still be clapping
123
09/02/2021 12:27:20 0 1
bbc
Tui had nothing to do with Thomas cook, they had miss management/financial issues for years. They were the competition. FYI tui is mostly British.
73
09/02/2021 12:18:32 17 15
bbc
While we all cherish personal freedoms, if the UK allow people to go abroad on holidays it will only lead to another lockdown later on, we are an Island we need to close the borders, eradicate (or minimise) Covid and then have sensible procedures to allow free movement down the track. It is selfish for people to go abroad and bring back a death sentence for themselves or others.
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
bbc
Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
12
09/02/2021 11:27:14 178 31
bbc
Crazy!
No idea of what any new variants maybe around in months to come.
No idea if anything will be open at the places you're travelling to.

I know we're all bored of doing nothing, but there's no way id book a holiday at present
74
09/02/2021 12:18:32 60 87
bbc
With most companies offering free amendments and cancellations, you'd be crazy not to consider booking early before the mad rush and before prices go up.

Some destinations will require a face mask but you're used to that already I would imagine.
163
09/02/2021 12:35:13 5 2
bbc
Our Lapland holiday we had booked for this January was cancelled, we had booked in November 2019.

When they called us up to rearrange they wanted an extra £600pp to book for 2022.

So there are companies that are not honouring original prices. We got our money back and will rebook when the right time comes. The 2023 holidays are already out and are cheaper than 2022!
184
09/02/2021 12:38:43 17 10
bbc
What is the point of going away but having lots of restrictions? I'd advise staying home and repainting the spare bedroom ceiling, then go away in a few years time when normality returns.
318
09/02/2021 13:11:04 6 5
bbc
Sorry but we see it differently, you must be crazy to place your funds in their hands not knowing what this year will present. As for wearing a mask, yes we do, but we are not on holiday relaxing, going to shops, bars and restaurants. We are not lazing by a pool. The list is endless and there are far better ways to spend your money at present.
407
09/02/2021 13:39:03 4 12
bbc
It must be made totally clear that if you fly for a holiday and a new variant of the virus arises in that country you will not be allowed back in the UK for at least 6 months. Only a total fool would plan on a foreign holiday this year.
419
09/02/2021 13:42:17 0 2
bbc
Precisely!!
536
09/02/2021 14:21:25 0 2
bbc
Crazy not to consider staying at home. The holiday industry will have a lot to answer for when this is over. Not just to out of pocket customers, but to all of us for its role in promoting irresponsible travel.
570
09/02/2021 14:33:20 0 0
bbc
I already called that one too....there will be a holiday price hike lol for when you have your new covid vaccine passport lol
662
09/02/2021 15:17:56 0 0
bbc
Exactly! Can you imagine Cornwall in the summer if all stay here? Already horrific with 6 mile tailbacks and £15 for a breakfast.. No thanks!! That's what led to half of this last summer.. good old indecisive Bojo!
702
09/02/2021 15:59:30 0 0
bbc
Nice tan around the mask then!
743
YH
09/02/2021 18:45:46 0 0
bbc
Gosh Nick, all these positive comments - anyone would think you are a TUI employee!?
75
09/02/2021 12:19:48 72 16
bbc
Who in their right mind would book a foreign holiday now? Too many unknowns not least that TUI may be bankrupt by the summer!
82
09/02/2021 12:23:41 31 14
bbc
TUI holidays are ATOL protected
85
09/02/2021 12:24:59 12 4
bbc
And then add on the cost of 10 days hotel quarantine on return for British residents
117
09/02/2021 12:31:56 7 6
bbc
I booked 2 years ago, and moved it from 20 to 21. And as below there is Atol cover plus s75 CCA if you pay part by credit card. Not exactly a risk.
150
09/02/2021 12:38:33 9 4
bbc
A fool and their money.....
275
09/02/2021 13:01:30 2 1
bbc
Well said!
73
09/02/2021 12:18:32 17 15
bbc
While we all cherish personal freedoms, if the UK allow people to go abroad on holidays it will only lead to another lockdown later on, we are an Island we need to close the borders, eradicate (or minimise) Covid and then have sensible procedures to allow free movement down the track. It is selfish for people to go abroad and bring back a death sentence for themselves or others.
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
bbc
Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
81
09/02/2021 12:22:40 5 6
bbc
its a death sentence for the 1% or do they not matter?
86
09/02/2021 12:25:02 6 5
bbc
Spot on. We have to learn to live with this virus just as we have to live with other common viruses
93
09/02/2021 12:27:01 4 8
bbc
Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones you heartless t"@t
As long as you're not one of the 110,000 who've died from it, then, eh? Nice.
118
09/02/2021 12:31:57 0 3
bbc
The UK population is around 67,886,000 so even by your calculation that is 678,860 potential fatalities and even if my statement is over dramatic, the fundamental that unnecessary foreign travel endangers the physical, social and economic well being of this country at this time remains true.
27
09/02/2021 11:39:36 80 9
bbc
How many of those 2.8M bookings are people rolling over holidays they couldn't have last year?

I haven't booked a new one but I still have the one I booked in 2019 that was originally supposed to happen in Oct half term. It's currently booked for May half term but I'll be delaying as soon as the Govt confirms I won't be able to travel then.

I don't think these holidays will go ahead this summer.
77
09/02/2021 12:21:25 14 49
bbc
May half term? You'll be fine. The worst case scenario is a test at airport so it might be worth limiting contact as much as possible for a week or 2 before you travel.

However in the unlikely event you would have to quarantine on arrival then you'll be able to put things back to October.

No worries :)
265
09/02/2021 13:00:02 6 4
bbc
'it might be worth limiting contact as much as possible'...You are meant to be doing that anyway!!! No wonder we are in such a state with comments like that. Why would you think May will be any different. Honestly human being are the worst virus on the planet.
689
09/02/2021 15:46:30 0 0
bbc
Foolish optimism. Even if things a re a bit more normal here (at best) they certainly won't be at the destination. You have seen what's happening with vaccinations elsewhere haven't you?
78
bbc
Come on BBC. HYS on this please

Covid: Support 'repeatedly skewed towards men', say MPs.

Let's discuss sexism.
Removed
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09/02/2021 12:46:03 1 1
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YAWN. Let's not.
79
09/02/2021 12:21:36 31 6
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I’ll wait and see until the last minute...but...please don’t pretend staying in the UK is a great option. I don’t fancy spending the best part of £4000 to rent a very average self catering cottage in Dorset for 2 weeks, sit in traffic jams getting there whilst trying to get on an overcrowded beach and queue to eat in an overcrowded restaurant all in dodgy weather.
Well if you're dumb enough to pay that much, you deserve what you get.
141
09/02/2021 12:36:18 0 5
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Sounds like a terrible holiday. My last 3 British holidays have been awesome, didn't involve England (no offence) or English holidaymaker destinations (55m people), cottages or traffic mind you.
696
09/02/2021 15:51:38 0 0
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Sorry to shock you but a holiday is a desirable, optional part of life. You don't have to do it and it's probably wiser not to. But a lot of people are not very wise.
80
09/02/2021 12:22:05 4 3
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I wonder what’s in their small print re vaccinations because there are at least 4 Eu countries already saying they will impose restrictions the biggest being Spain.
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
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Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
81
09/02/2021 12:22:40 5 6
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its a death sentence for the 1% or do they not matter?
96
09/02/2021 12:27:19 7 6
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So we just hide from everything that’s out there , snowflake generation
106
09/02/2021 12:29:33 1 5
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OK, so what would you tell someone who is going to die so that you can have your two weeks in Benidorm this year?
75
09/02/2021 12:19:48 72 16
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Who in their right mind would book a foreign holiday now? Too many unknowns not least that TUI may be bankrupt by the summer!
82
09/02/2021 12:23:41 31 14
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TUI holidays are ATOL protected
221
09/02/2021 12:45:46 9 2
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Yes, but it still took me many months and eventually turning to my credit card company to get my holiday refunded last year. TUI do everything they can to avoid refunding - understandable but unfair on the consumer
412
09/02/2021 13:40:52 1 0
bbc
.... and Titanic was unsinkable.
427
09/02/2021 13:47:25 0 1
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They may go bust as well!
553
09/02/2021 14:27:14 0 1
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So just cling on to your "holiday as soon as I can" selfish hopes, and b.....r everybody else then?
685
09/02/2021 15:37:47 1 1
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"TUI holidays are ATOL protected"? Laughable situation, all this "hype" in the hope we can avoid "bankruptcy". How quickly we forget all the cividiots last summer crowding our beaches ignoring social distancing and here we are considering the same but abroad in a few months time? Beyond "sense"!
691
09/02/2021 15:47:25 1 0
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But not Covid protected - everyone seems to focus on 'the rules' over thier own health!
83
09/02/2021 12:24:39 7 4
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That's all well & good for them but I will not be stepping on any plane anytime soon until we have all had the vaccine & I think the airlines have a lot to answer for the spread of Covid by cramming passengers onto planes with no duty of care. You cannot socially distance on a plane & as well as been in a recirculating germ spreading pressurized tube. Do they think passengers are stupid or what?
718
09/02/2021 16:28:12 0 0
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The airlines didn't force people onto planes - it was personal choice
84
09/02/2021 12:24:44 19 8
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This is a load of Carp - the BBC is constantly pushing government agenda - they fool you into believing a holiday is just around the corner.
Open your eyes and use your mind, stop believing this twoddle and THINK!
75
09/02/2021 12:19:48 72 16
bbc
Who in their right mind would book a foreign holiday now? Too many unknowns not least that TUI may be bankrupt by the summer!
85
09/02/2021 12:24:59 12 4
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And then add on the cost of 10 days hotel quarantine on return for British residents
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
bbc
Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
86
09/02/2021 12:25:02 6 5
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Spot on. We have to learn to live with this virus just as we have to live with other common viruses
87
09/02/2021 12:25:16 3 3
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Bad bet - the German govt will be shutting that down shortly
88
09/02/2021 12:25:41 4 3
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Vaccine passport at the ready? These companies don’t control holidays the individual countries do so how can they take bookings against background of many unknowns.
89
09/02/2021 12:25:59 5 2
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It would be helpful if TUI manned their phones properly. They keep banging on about the volumes of people booking but when you want to make an amendment (from cancelled holiday last spring) you regularly can’t get through to them. Phones down again today.
I want the industry to rebound as I’m a travel agent, but they and other mass market tour operators often don’t have the support in place.
79
09/02/2021 12:21:36 31 6
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I’ll wait and see until the last minute...but...please don’t pretend staying in the UK is a great option. I don’t fancy spending the best part of £4000 to rent a very average self catering cottage in Dorset for 2 weeks, sit in traffic jams getting there whilst trying to get on an overcrowded beach and queue to eat in an overcrowded restaurant all in dodgy weather.
90
09/02/2021 12:26:32 14 8
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Well if you're dumb enough to pay that much, you deserve what you get.
724
09/02/2021 17:08:07 0 0
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what a nasty reply to a nasty comment
91
09/02/2021 12:26:51 4 1
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People booking these holidays who have kids (or are teachers) do realise there may not be a 6 week summer break this year right? Government hasn’t decided yet.
92
09/02/2021 12:26:52 4 2
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Not happening, secret government review, the country will remain in some form of lockdown until October earliest, which is almost the onset of winter 2020, happy days, guess what will happen then.
114
09/02/2021 12:31:05 1 1
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Wow that's amazing. Almost until the onset of winter 2020! Did you find out from Dr Who? I'll flush your comment down my loo as its crap.
125
09/02/2021 12:32:42 0 1
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EXACTLY - they push the lockdown out by a couple of months every couple of months, just so the public accept it!
How would we all feel if they said total lockdown until 'sometime' 2022.. or maybe never!
So much for the saviour vaccine!!!
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
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Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
93
09/02/2021 12:27:01 4 8
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Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones you heartless t"@t
113
09/02/2021 12:30:59 0 2
bbc
Nice
41
09/02/2021 11:48:04 40 17
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Most certainly I did and my GP said last May there would be a 2nd wave with further mutations evolving.
94
09/02/2021 12:27:02 43 10
bbc
You spoke to a GP????

I'm surprised the BBC aren't running with your story!
310
09/02/2021 13:09:12 0 1
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??
95
09/02/2021 12:27:14 5 1
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Dont see how it can bounce back when on top of the holiday price you need to add a minimum of 500 each, that's assuming you only need to pay £120 per test. Then there is the matter of holiday insurance unless the government lifts the non essential travel ban basically your stuffed.
81
09/02/2021 12:22:40 5 6
bbc
its a death sentence for the 1% or do they not matter?
96
09/02/2021 12:27:19 7 6
bbc
So we just hide from everything that’s out there , snowflake generation
104
09/02/2021 12:28:56 0 3
bbc
Well said mark
97
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09/02/2021 12:27:28 9 1
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Check the refund policy before booking anything.
56
09/02/2021 12:10:38 253 24
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Prof Johnathan Van Tam and Prof Chris Whitty are both exceptional intelligent people, it is extremely irritating that journalists waste their question on things like

"When can people book a summer holiday?"

Are you kidding me..?!
98
09/02/2021 12:27:31 27 3
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Well said. Some (most) journos just ask banal questions so they can ‘be seen’ to be doing their job. Most of them don’t understand the answers being given by ‘the experts’ anyway !
40
09/02/2021 11:47:36 29 6
bbc
I can hear them now complaining about the new UK variant that's going to mutate in June. And why didn't the government tell them about it.
99
09/02/2021 12:27:46 4 2
bbc
Yes I find it interesting that we are told it is seasonal, but the only reason for the dip in rates last summer was because of the first lockdown.

After all if it IS seasonal then why are rates from South Africa (where it is now their summer) so high?
165
09/02/2021 12:41:47 2 1
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Strange, I remember last March warnings of not hoping the summer would make things better, and yet when the summer came cases remained low despite relatively few restrictions.
And then the same people who had warned summer will not make it go away were now warning that winter would make it worse (which it did).
Can't comment on South Africa cases.
No reason for summer 2021 to be worse than 2020.
395
09/02/2021 13:34:14 1 1
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Rates in South Africa aren't high though. Do some fact checking and dig beneath the govt spin. January 11th the 7 day average was 18K its now 3k.
76
09/02/2021 12:20:54 16 15
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Hardly death sentence 99% survive it
100
09/02/2021 12:27:51 2 5
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As long as you're not one of the 110,000 who've died from it, then, eh? Nice.