Covid: Two tests for all UK arrivals during quarantine
09/02/2021 | news | business | 850
Details of the new system, aimed at tracking cases and detecting new variants, will be set out later today.
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09/02/2021 11:28:16 7 16
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Ah, this must be the promised "world-beating" test, track and trace system that will prevent a second peak of the virus.

Promised by Johnson in the Commons.........on the 20th of May last year.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-world-beating-track-and-trace-system-ready-for-schools-to-reopen-pm-promises-11991606
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:31:46 10 6
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He promised 100,000 tests a day back last Spring. We now have the capacity to carry out over 800,000 tests a day. I would consider that a world beating achievement by any government.
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09/02/2021 11:28:21 13 15
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Literally a year too late. It's a good job our vaccine rollout has been a success, because everything else has been calamitous.
The vaccine rollout has been a success because the NHS has delivered it. Not the politicians and the chumocracy. Why is Tory donor Lady Dido still in charge of track and trace??
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09/02/2021 12:01:37 0 1
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Shame all the vaccine administered so far is useless against the SA variant so they have to start again with a different vaccine

Sometimes it pays to wait a while and see
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09/02/2021 11:28:31 12 8
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Two tests you says ?

1) Do you have COVID ?

2) Are you legally allowed to enter this country ?
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:28:46 18 7
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The only tests students will take all year.
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09/02/2021 11:28:48 122 28
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Prof Van Tam is a legend. Thank you for your clear explanations and down to earth common sense.
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Kew
09/02/2021 11:34:52 70 21
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Agreed. I think he and Whitty make good combination. Whitty is the stern doctor who tells us to buck our ideas up. With VT providing the reassuring, friendly face who is more disappointed than angry with us.
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09/02/2021 11:36:09 16 9
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Why on earth didn't the Government do this 12 months ago, before the virus pandemic broke out and became established across the UK? They could likely have prevented its spread and the rate of infections. Government should have listened to the scientists and acted last winter. Perhaps Prof. VT can advise and explain?
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09/02/2021 11:41:49 15 8
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That is true. And emphasised even more when compared to the nonsense from the blustering clown who usually stands next to him.
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09/02/2021 11:48:38 6 10
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Van Tam said mass testing was a side distraction not so long ago, probably when he cow towed to the govt agenda driven by not having enough test kits. Just about all of SAGE will have us under restrictions for god knows how long so don't be so quick to heap too much praise on them.
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Kew
09/02/2021 11:29:03 7 4
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Seems a little late in the day. But good news, nevertheless.
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:29:34 16 18
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This time last year the UK had the capacity to carry out 2,000 tests a day, and the government were rightly questioned about their plans to address this scandal. They addressed it and now we have the capacity to carry out over 800,000 tests a day.
Has the BBC had a special programme to report on this phenomenal British success?
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09/02/2021 11:33:25 8 8
bbc
This time last year the UK had no meaningful stategy to prevent covid entering the country.

12 months on and 100,000 deaths later and they still have no meaningful restrictions in place.
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Sam
09/02/2021 12:36:27 0 0
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Yes frequently.
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Sam
09/02/2021 12:36:51 0 0
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It's been reported why would it need a programme?
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09/02/2021 11:30:34 105 40
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Meanwhile yesterday people were still walking off direct flights from South Africa without airport staff even checking their Covid tests.

As far as the these new checks go, the words 'stable door' and 'bolted' spring to mind.
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09/02/2021 11:33:39 70 14
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There are no direct flights from S Africa, they have been banned for a while
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:47:44 22 0
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You seem to be misquoting a journalist who came in on a connecting flight from Qatar.
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09/02/2021 11:49:19 11 6
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The freelance journalist had flown in via another country ... not SA

Its odd how journalists just happen to find a paying story by doing such things ?
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09/02/2021 12:02:43 12 5
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Get your facts right before making totaly false comments!
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Sam
09/02/2021 12:37:43 1 0
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Not direct
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09/02/2021 12:39:22 0 0
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Please provide evidence.This is fake news.No direct flights for a long while.If you post again please check your facts and stop wasting our time.
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09/02/2021 12:43:44 0 0
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fake news ....no direct flights from s Africa
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09/02/2021 12:55:23 1 0
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PM's father showed the way. Just travel via another country. No bother if you've got the dosh.
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09/02/2021 13:33:14 0 0
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You are lying. There are no direct flights from South Africa, and haven't been for quite a while. If you don't know that, you don't know anything else worth saying.
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10/02/2021 02:18:34 0 0
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Erm they used a fake vaccine passport.
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09/02/2021 11:30:57 20 7
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This will only work if those self isolating at home actually stay in and come into contact with No one else.

Otherwise it's pointless, what are you going to do?
Put a tag on their leg to see if they do as expected.
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09/02/2021 11:38:37 3 15
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It won't work

There is no point apart from

"do something"
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09/02/2021 13:32:03 0 0
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Sure Serco / g4S would love to supply them with ankle tagging.
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09/02/2021 11:31:01 8 11
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Is one of them an eye test? We know how important they are.
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09/02/2021 11:31:10 34 14
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Way too late, this should have been in place 10 months ago,
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09/02/2021 11:41:41 9 12
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More like 14 months!

Too late now.
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09/02/2021 11:31:46 6 12
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Care home residents have been refused hospital care and put on 'end of life' and it has been going on for months. The Liverpool pathway is alive and kicking, If they are lucky they may get oxygen, but most get a morphine syringe driver that finishes them off.

I have been saying this here for weeks and it gets thumbs down. You can thumb down the truth all you like, but it is still the truth.
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09/02/2021 11:36:03 5 2
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Show your evidence then.
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09/02/2021 11:28:16 7 16
bbc
Ah, this must be the promised "world-beating" test, track and trace system that will prevent a second peak of the virus.

Promised by Johnson in the Commons.........on the 20th of May last year.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-world-beating-track-and-trace-system-ready-for-schools-to-reopen-pm-promises-11991606
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:31:46 10 6
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He promised 100,000 tests a day back last Spring. We now have the capacity to carry out over 800,000 tests a day. I would consider that a world beating achievement by any government.
Given that the purpose of track and trace was to prevent infection spread and subsequent deaths, and we still had the highest number of deaths in Europe. You still think spending £22,000,000,000 of hard working taxpayers money on a track and trace system that obviously failed in its purpose, was a world beating achievement by the government? Seriously?

You must be a major Serco shareholder.
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09/02/2021 11:31:53 17 11
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Just close external and internal borders Apart from the transport of goods, essential services and repatriation, get on with it for goodness sake.
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09/02/2021 11:34:31 3 7
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Pray tell everyone how you close external and internal borders?
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W 6
09/02/2021 11:36:55 4 2
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I'm really on the fence with border closures and the one thing that stops me from supporting it is no credible explanation as to how to re-open them again. Say we did manage to eradicate covid here (highly unlikely in my non-expert opinion), is the answer permanent border closures with the USA, Brazil, India, the EU and other countries where there is no political will to achieve zero covid?
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09/02/2021 11:34:18 0 2
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So people delivering from Amazon don’t catch covid then.

FREEDOM for all in the world
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09/02/2021 11:30:16 4 11
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If a person has had Covid 19 they will test positive for up to 90 days after that despite no longer being either ill or infectious. Are these people going to be kept in slum hotels for all that time. At what point does it become illegal detention?
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09/02/2021 11:33:43 5 2
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Rubbish. If that was true there would be a massively higher case rate.
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09/02/2021 11:35:34 2 2
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Surely they deserve to be locked up for being stupid enough to travel in the first place.
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09/02/2021 11:32:31 123 51
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Report Card for: B Johnson, Westminster

Vaccine: Excellent
Everything Else: Shambles. Absolute shambles.

Outlook: Unlikely to be voted for
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09/02/2021 11:35:59 61 27
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It may yet turn out that the Government's snails pace response to the new varients undermines the benefits of the vaccine rollout.
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09/02/2021 11:37:15 14 17
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Question is, would anyone else have been any better (I'm not defending Boris in any way). The devolved governments have been a complete shambles too.
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09/02/2021 11:49:09 21 4
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May be if B Johnson had have took this seriously at the start then everything that's followed wouldn't have been necessary..
Whats so excellent about a vaccine that is killing loads of people. Please do your research. Removed
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09/02/2021 12:15:18 2 1
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Which is why they will crowbar vaccines in for every answer at every press conference...
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09/02/2021 12:29:41 5 5
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Hind sight is wonderful. Remember how we were told that we should join the EU in sourcing a vaccine??

Vote for Boris
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DSA
09/02/2021 12:32:03 6 2
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Wrong we will still vote Conservative as we are sick of all of the left wing Labour bull**** and the pathetic attempts to score political points using the pandemic.
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09/02/2021 12:44:27 2 1
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what..and captain hindsight will be voted for..hilarious
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09/02/2021 11:32:44 2 5
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This should have been put in place on day one and its absolutely necessary that this is heavily enforced to protect our borders. Nobody should be travelling at this time unless it is absolutely necessary for business or medical reasons. The cost of quarantine should not be paid for by the taxpayer. Travellers should be made pay for any quarantine.
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09/02/2021 11:32:51 7 8
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Johnson is a historian. He’s bound to be late at doing anything. Couldn’t see graphs going up dramatically before Christmas. His cluelessness becomes more obvious by the day. He and his shambolic cabinet bear responsibility for the South African variant being in the UK.
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09/02/2021 11:32:53 0 3
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What happens if you haven't got a negative test result? Will you be returned to your place of departure at the next opportunity? What's the point of a fine and then allowing the travellers into the UK? Perhaps I'm not understanding how this all works. Any one care to clear things up for me please?
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09/02/2021 11:41:01 1 0
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They get denied entry it’s that simple
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09/02/2021 12:06:01 1 0
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If you don't have a negative test the you don't get to aircraft/train/boat or whatever. This should be a departure rather than an arrival requirement.
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09/02/2021 11:32:59 5 5
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Sounds fair enough. If you travel from Spain to the UK you need a clear Covid test less than 72hrs old to be able to board the plane anyway. Just hope it will be the same in the opposite direction!
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09/02/2021 11:33:00 3 10
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HAHA

UK is copying everything China has done and suggested to do?

Copy Copy Copy
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09/02/2021 11:39:47 5 2
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Not committing genocide against the Uighurs as yet....
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09/02/2021 11:41:13 1 0
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Ironic
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09/02/2021 11:45:00 0 1
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I agree that Boris & the govt have made bad mistakes, & have got some things right. I find that understandable given this is a one is a 100 year event - hindsight is wonderful. However, to suggest he's just copied China is ridiculous - the Chinese govt lied (& lies) on numbers and prevented scientific evidence from being released as WHO rules require
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:29:34 16 18
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This time last year the UK had the capacity to carry out 2,000 tests a day, and the government were rightly questioned about their plans to address this scandal. They addressed it and now we have the capacity to carry out over 800,000 tests a day.
Has the BBC had a special programme to report on this phenomenal British success?
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09/02/2021 11:33:25 8 8
bbc
This time last year the UK had no meaningful stategy to prevent covid entering the country.

12 months on and 100,000 deaths later and they still have no meaningful restrictions in place.
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:38:45 2 1
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There are many restrictions in place. That does not mean that people are observing them. Just like there are restrictions on the speed you can drive your car, but many people ignore those too.
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09/02/2021 11:30:34 105 40
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Meanwhile yesterday people were still walking off direct flights from South Africa without airport staff even checking their Covid tests.

As far as the these new checks go, the words 'stable door' and 'bolted' spring to mind.
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09/02/2021 11:33:39 70 14
bbc
There are no direct flights from S Africa, they have been banned for a while
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GW
09/02/2021 11:48:19 11 2
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Flights in to Dubai from SA as well u know so doubling up the risk
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09/02/2021 12:09:42 7 1
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That does not stop people coming in indirectly.
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09/02/2021 12:56:21 0 0
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So where was yesterdays flight from??? I thought Joberg was in South SAfrica??
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09/02/2021 11:30:16 4 11
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If a person has had Covid 19 they will test positive for up to 90 days after that despite no longer being either ill or infectious. Are these people going to be kept in slum hotels for all that time. At what point does it become illegal detention?
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09/02/2021 11:33:43 5 2
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Rubbish. If that was true there would be a massively higher case rate.
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09/02/2021 11:36:58 0 0
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That’s why nhs staff don’t get re-tested fir 90 days after they recover from covid. Fact, unlike uneducated spouting nonsence
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09/02/2021 11:33:59 14 7
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Why only "spot checks" at the airport. All passports are checked so how hard can it be to check that they have a covid test at the same time?
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:36:41 2 2
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Quite hard for the face scanning machines at most of our airports.
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09/02/2021 13:43:47 0 0
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How many of these certificates are worth checking, how many fraudulent how many genuine.

If going to rely on such things, it needs to be more than a home printable piece of paper.

As bbc article, they are bought and sold online for less than cost of test.
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09/02/2021 11:34:09 5 6
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Those quarantining are going to perform their own swab. That will be dipped in a cup of water. Why risk testing positive.? Worse still the Govt know that people will do this. This hotel fiasco is just window dressing.
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09/02/2021 11:31:53 17 11
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Just close external and internal borders Apart from the transport of goods, essential services and repatriation, get on with it for goodness sake.
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09/02/2021 11:34:31 3 7
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Pray tell everyone how you close external and internal borders?
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09/02/2021 11:38:15 2 6
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External borders the same way France did it, simple. Armed forces for internal borders I'm afraid.
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jon
09/02/2021 11:34:34 4 2
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At least people will know what to expect when booking foreign holidays and overseas travel becomes legal again. These restrictions may last a long time if the virus keeps mutating.
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09/02/2021 11:34:35 69 15
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Correct me if I’m wrong but are we not to stay at home, so who the hell is flying about all over the place, it’s a joke
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09/02/2021 11:39:14 60 5
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Eyebrow drawing, fake tan pouting, selfie taking "Influencers"....??
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09/02/2021 11:40:57 7 26
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Why should you isolate and stay at home if you've had a vaccine that is 95% effective and studies show is 99% capable of stopping you spreading the virus to others. I'm vaccinated and want to visit my Spanish home for spring.
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09/02/2021 12:20:19 2 7
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I have a house in Spain, I visit it for long periods at a time, for LEGAL reasons I have to return, the 90 day rule, I'm a person that has followed all of the rules, I don't go out except for food shopping & exercise by walking where no one else does, I find it interesting that so many people want to blame people like me or just lump me in with the influencer idiots taking unnecessary flights.
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09/02/2021 12:49:53 2 0
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I totally agree. Anybody >60 who wants to fly to their 2nd, 3rd.... foreign home or for that matter want to spend 3 months in Cyprus should be taxed to the point where they cannot and funds directed to those being totally shafted in the 18-40 age bracket. I am well above that bracket. Selfishness me me me. You should be ashamed.
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09/02/2021 12:59:46 2 1
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A 'joke' which is killing people: 21,000 arrivals EVERY day!
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09/02/2021 11:28:48 122 28
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Prof Van Tam is a legend. Thank you for your clear explanations and down to earth common sense.
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Kew
09/02/2021 11:34:52 70 21
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Agreed. I think he and Whitty make good combination. Whitty is the stern doctor who tells us to buck our ideas up. With VT providing the reassuring, friendly face who is more disappointed than angry with us.
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09/02/2021 12:20:07 8 2
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I think they should be knighted after this. If Hamilton can get one for driving a car these 2 defently deserve one.
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09/02/2021 12:27:31 4 3
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And wee have the daily clown in the middle ??
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09/02/2021 13:19:10 0 1
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They are still determined to destroy the nation, just because they are scared of beng blamed for Covid deaths. The thing is, their closures and restrictions will have caused more poverty-related deaths than Covid will have, and they know this.

Common sense indeed. They are only specialist who have the gall to consider their specialism more important than the complete picture it should fit into.
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09/02/2021 11:34:56 141 27
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Why on earth didn't the Government do this 12 months ago, before the virus pandemic broke out and became established across the UK? They could likely have prevented its spread and the rate of infections. Government should have listened to the scientists and acted last winter.
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09/02/2021 11:40:30 101 33
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Because "Boris".

It is now well established that the preferred approach to problem solving with this government is to wait until the last minute when there is only one viable course of action left.
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09/02/2021 11:47:57 15 8
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At this time last year, The Science said that border closures would not work
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Jax
09/02/2021 11:49:51 17 3
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Because at the time there was a WTO plan on the way countries should deal with such a pandemic and it specifically said no border closure and no lockdown.
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09/02/2021 11:53:48 11 6
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20:20 hindsight
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09/02/2021 11:54:14 6 2
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I agree with you completely it makes so much sense. People will really only travel if it's vital if they need to go through this process.
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09/02/2021 11:56:07 4 14
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You know it all - well done. Except I'm not sure most of us wanted to be prisoners in our own land - maybe you did - but I didn't and still don't
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09/02/2021 12:06:22 6 5
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How long has this been discussed and even suggested here on HYS but dismissed by Grant Schapps? It seems as though the government have to be taken kicking and screaming before they get their act together.
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09/02/2021 12:13:39 1 0
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I get what you are saying but they could only do 150 tests a day...why waste them on people who shouldn't really be traveling anyway AND at that point they had no idea 1 in 3 cases were asymptomatic..
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09/02/2021 12:14:09 2 3
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This may explain it, he is pathologically unable to make a decision until it is forced on him.

https://theconversation.com/why-does-boris-johnson-delay-coronavirus-lockdown-decisions-a-psychologist-gives-her-view-152699
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09/02/2021 12:18:41 1 2
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Even better, why on earth didn't the government do this 24 months ago...
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09/02/2021 12:25:06 4 4
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Because the Government didn't have a crystal ball, nor the benefit of 20/20 hindsight that you now have? You can't just shut down the country every time there's a virus scare, can you?
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09/02/2021 12:28:24 1 2
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Before it broke out ???
Presumably the crystal ball wasn't working that day.
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09/02/2021 12:36:40 1 2
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A leading scientist this morning criticised countries which has closed their borders saying that big problems would come later. That is why it did not happen earlier.
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xlr
09/02/2021 12:45:57 1 0
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Stopping international travel is not profit...err, practical.

- Boris
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09/02/2021 15:04:04 0 0
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Because restricting air travel beyond what we recently had does almost nothing to stop spread inside the country once there are more than a few cases. A handful of people a day arriving with covid compared to 1,000 - 20,000 a day spreading it domestically. It is literally a pointless exercise.

To stop new dangerous variants coming in that are not already endemic though? That becomes worth it.
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09/02/2021 11:35:08 45 17
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Makes perfect sense, just done way too late. UK's general response has been very poor, too much dithering. I could go on, but won't!!!
732
09/02/2021 13:03:10 1 1
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Your indoctrination process has been completed, so it is entirely acceptable for you to go on about it.
Sadly this is all due to Boris Johnsons failures

He was voted in due to a (thankfully) short lived swing to the alt right from roughly 2015 - 2019 that gave us Boris, Brexit, Bolsonaro and Trump

These inexperienced populist leaders, Boris, Trump & Bolsonaro failed their people when it came to the virus

All have been far too slow or amazingly even tried to pretend it wasnt happening
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09/02/2021 11:28:21 13 15
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Literally a year too late. It's a good job our vaccine rollout has been a success, because everything else has been calamitous.
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09/02/2021 11:35:13 2 6
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The vaccine rollout has been a success because the NHS has delivered it. Not the politicians and the chumocracy. Why is Tory donor Lady Dido still in charge of track and trace??
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09/02/2021 11:30:16 4 11
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If a person has had Covid 19 they will test positive for up to 90 days after that despite no longer being either ill or infectious. Are these people going to be kept in slum hotels for all that time. At what point does it become illegal detention?
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09/02/2021 11:35:34 2 2
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Surely they deserve to be locked up for being stupid enough to travel in the first place.
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09/02/2021 11:35:40 102 49
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The sad truth is that under the leadership of Boris (saviour of Christmas) Johnson the UK has

Suffered the highest number of Covid deaths of any EU nation

Has suffered the 3rd highest number of deaths per 100,000 population of any nation on earth

Has the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

Is this what Boris meant when he promised that he would make the UK "world beating"?
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09/02/2021 11:40:48 60 40
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clearly the people of the uk have a very low intelligence level. If rules had been obeyed would we be in such a bad state?
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jon
09/02/2021 11:40:58 16 13
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It’s not sensible to make comparisons as countries record deaths differently. For example Spain has 60,000 deaths officially but excess death are above 80,000.
Sadly Boris Johnsons dither and delay regarding the virus have cost the UK dearly

Not many leaders would of allowed Cheltenham races to go ahead in March or put their capital city into tier 2 in November, putting wealth before health
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09/02/2021 11:40:22 7 10
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Hmmm, I think I've seen this post before. Let me think now: that's it, every single HYS.
Must try harder.
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09/02/2021 11:57:06 6 8
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The UK is not in the EU, but soon that will be only little england that isn't in the EU
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09/02/2021 12:21:04 2 2
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Not an EU nation. Keep up
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09/02/2021 12:34:34 0 2
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Under Boris:
140,000 lives saved
According to IMFbest economic response in the World, an example the line should follow
Best vaccination programme in the World
World beating T&T
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09/02/2021 11:35:43 47 22
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Closed the stable door after the horse has bolted yet again, close borders now.
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09/02/2021 11:53:17 10 5
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Your comment literally says the horse has already bolted so we should close the stable door
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09/02/2021 11:58:19 0 0
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well they are still thinking about closing the stable door, the horse is in the next county.
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09/02/2021 11:32:31 123 51
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Report Card for: B Johnson, Westminster

Vaccine: Excellent
Everything Else: Shambles. Absolute shambles.

Outlook: Unlikely to be voted for
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09/02/2021 11:35:59 61 27
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It may yet turn out that the Government's snails pace response to the new varients undermines the benefits of the vaccine rollout.
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09/02/2021 12:55:20 0 0
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new varients? Yet another excuse for bad management in my book!! All they are doing is trying to drive fear into the hearts of the British People in order to cut the amount of breaks in the process.
Brits don't scare that easily!!
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09/02/2021 12:56:06 0 0
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Already part way there. It's not as though it was surprise.
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09/02/2021 11:31:46 6 12
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Care home residents have been refused hospital care and put on 'end of life' and it has been going on for months. The Liverpool pathway is alive and kicking, If they are lucky they may get oxygen, but most get a morphine syringe driver that finishes them off.

I have been saying this here for weeks and it gets thumbs down. You can thumb down the truth all you like, but it is still the truth.
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09/02/2021 11:36:03 5 2
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Show your evidence then.
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09/02/2021 11:28:48 122 28
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Prof Van Tam is a legend. Thank you for your clear explanations and down to earth common sense.
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09/02/2021 11:36:09 16 9
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Why on earth didn't the Government do this 12 months ago, before the virus pandemic broke out and became established across the UK? They could likely have prevented its spread and the rate of infections. Government should have listened to the scientists and acted last winter. Perhaps Prof. VT can advise and explain?
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09/02/2021 11:49:56 8 9
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Why has this got five thumbs down? Are Boris, Gove, Handcock etc on here???
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09/02/2021 11:36:17 65 2
bbc
Interesting to see this report up at the same time as the one stating that "Tui has said it expects to run 80% of its normal capacity for this summer, with 2.8 million customers already booked for its holidays." That's a lot of tests and a lot of people supposed to be in quarantine...
90
09/02/2021 11:44:34 30 4
bbc
TUI have caught Johnson's high-transmission optimism.
381
09/02/2021 12:17:11 0 0
bbc
So thats £280000000 spent on test...how much profit for the government
403
09/02/2021 12:19:58 3 0
bbc
That 80% is looking rather optimistic in the light of this latest announcement. Suddenly a young family of 4 which has saved all year for a weeks summer escape is told to spend £1,600 on CV testing. Brutal. Cruel. Call it what you will.
41
09/02/2021 11:36:24 15 10
bbc
How about we stop all arrivals?
69
09/02/2021 11:40:27 7 9
bbc
How about we don't
147
09/02/2021 11:50:25 0 2
bbc
I assume you don't have family abroad? That you are not a business owner, trying to export? A UK business that relies on income from tourism?
And I assume you don't care if thousands of people lose their jobs and instead of being tax payers become welfare dependent? Of course that will have an adverse effect on the public purse/cuts to public services but I guess you don't worry about that.
183
01
09/02/2021 11:44:45 2 0
bbc
If only, we'd then be normal like New Zealand.
42
09/02/2021 11:36:33 12 19
bbc
Two tests

1 Did you come here on a plane?

2 Will you be a good citizen and stay away from people for the next 10 days?

PASS
25
09/02/2021 11:33:59 14 7
bbc
Why only "spot checks" at the airport. All passports are checked so how hard can it be to check that they have a covid test at the same time?
43
MVS
09/02/2021 11:36:41 2 2
bbc
Quite hard for the face scanning machines at most of our airports.
14
09/02/2021 11:31:53 17 11
bbc
Just close external and internal borders Apart from the transport of goods, essential services and repatriation, get on with it for goodness sake.
44
W 6
09/02/2021 11:36:55 4 2
bbc
I'm really on the fence with border closures and the one thing that stops me from supporting it is no credible explanation as to how to re-open them again. Say we did manage to eradicate covid here (highly unlikely in my non-expert opinion), is the answer permanent border closures with the USA, Brazil, India, the EU and other countries where there is no political will to achieve zero covid?
45
09/02/2021 11:36:58 46 18
bbc
Totally pointless!

Should have been done 14 months ago but the genie is long gone from the bottle!
149
09/02/2021 11:50:40 28 11
bbc
14 months ago was the 9th of December 2019. The virus had not even been identified, let alone confirmed as transmitting between humans. What are you talking about?
352
09/02/2021 12:13:14 4 2
bbc
Tests for this coronavirus literally did not exist 14 months ago
46
09/02/2021 11:36:58 16 8
bbc
only 12 months to late, and as soon as its over in this country, and we open up, the travellers will be back, i think teaching people how to live with covid will be a better option, hygiene, masks, vaccines,
47
09/02/2021 11:37:11 9 11
bbc
People who break the self-isolation rules should spend at least ten days in solitary confinement in prison.

They are a danger to the public in general and to the vulnerable in particular.
59
09/02/2021 11:39:08 2 0
bbc
prisons are full
64
09/02/2021 11:39:48 3 0
bbc
People with opinions like this are more dangerous to the public.
65
09/02/2021 11:40:07 2 0
bbc
May be a danger...
16
09/02/2021 11:32:31 123 51
bbc
Report Card for: B Johnson, Westminster

Vaccine: Excellent
Everything Else: Shambles. Absolute shambles.

Outlook: Unlikely to be voted for
48
09/02/2021 11:37:15 14 17
bbc
Question is, would anyone else have been any better (I'm not defending Boris in any way). The devolved governments have been a complete shambles too.
202
09/02/2021 11:52:23 21 7
bbc
looking around the world the definitive answer to that question has to be yes, anyone else would have been better. The devolved governments are far far better than Boris, whilst Boris still gets to take most of the major decisions.
Cheltenham races

Saviour of Christmas

Do i really need to say any more?
442
09/02/2021 12:24:00 1 2
bbc
Have to agree that the UK wide response has been poor compared to other countries, and that Scotland is not doing so well with regards vaccine roll out but, Scotland population v England is 10% but Covid death rate is 6.5% of Englands.
606
09/02/2021 12:44:31 1 0
bbc
Next door's dog would have been better.
49
09/02/2021 11:37:26 46 11
bbc
Good way to mark the anniversary of when this would have been very effective.
677
09/02/2021 12:53:38 8 1
bbc
But back in 2020 people wouldn't have wanted to live in an authoritarian North Korean type police state on the basis of a 0.15% death rate.
The constant brainwashing has sorted that one out.
50
09/02/2021 11:37:34 21 18
bbc
The South African variant did not appear to have a "transmissibility advantage" over the one first identified in Kent, which has spread across the UK.

Boris must be so proud of the UK, having a better virus than the S.A, variant. Another " World Beating " first.....
133
09/02/2021 11:48:31 10 10
bbc
Really? is that your best contribution?, its pathetic.
51
09/02/2021 11:37:38 33 17
bbc
I'm sure many will agree with this policy. But do they realise that, if it goes on for too long, it will destroy the airlines, the foreign travel industry and UK tourism? And the impact will be felt not just in those sectors, but throughout the economy.

And, of course, when people do want to travel again there will be limited choice and sky high prices (for business as well as holidaymakers).
61
09/02/2021 11:39:23 15 6
bbc
My thoughts entirely
92
09/02/2021 11:44:36 1 2
bbc
It is already in place in many countries.
119
09/02/2021 11:47:01 16 7
bbc
Cant travel anywhere if you are dead
129
09/02/2021 11:47:46 13 5
bbc
And if travel leads to a vaccine resistant variant or one which is resistant to the vaccines we have used the economic damage will be far far far greater than any airline induced dip. Unfortunately, airlines have to be sacrificed for the economy as a whole.
138
09/02/2021 11:48:57 8 2
bbc
Yes and places like New Zealand are going to suffer badly because at the moment, they have not got a concrete plan of when they are going to open up their borders. It’s a difficult one
157
09/02/2021 11:51:45 11 6
bbc
I suppose it is a question of priorities.

What is more important :-

To have a vibrant powerful travel industry that brought the virus to the UK in the first place and is still doing it now

or

To stop 1000+ COVID-99 deaths a day when each new wave arrives in the UK.
178
09/02/2021 11:53:51 3 2
bbc
I am sure the aviation/travel industry would have fully supported this approach 11 months ago. Far too little, far too late - the Government are now making aviation the scapegoat for their error.
198
09/02/2021 11:55:23 5 4
bbc
So introduce vaccine passports so the 14 million vaccinated people can travel and save the economy.
231
Jax
09/02/2021 11:58:12 3 1
bbc
Exactly. All 4 large UK airlines are on the verge of disappearing. That means no freight....we have no freight only airlines as passengers subsidize the cost. 1.5m jobs. £90bn revenue. And we get left with only Ryanair who can and will charge £500 a seat.
279
09/02/2021 12:01:46 2 1
bbc
that's capitalism. When demand returns, and it will the second this is over, so will supply, with a short lag, it will just be different people/organisations providing that supply.
331
09/02/2021 12:10:06 1 3
bbc
So be it. The airlines should be sued for carrying the virus around the world.
703
09/02/2021 12:57:40 1 0
bbc
F**k 'em, it'll do the environment wonders which will benefit us all
716
09/02/2021 12:59:35 0 0
bbc
Oh no! Anyway....
52
09/02/2021 11:37:40 23 7
bbc
'Arrivals will be required to get a test on days two and eight of their 10-day quarantine period, whether they are isolating at home or in a hotel.'

'The "test to release scheme" - where travellers from non-red list countries can leave home isolation after a negative test on day five - will remain under the new testing rules.'

Seems to be contradictory.
280
09/02/2021 12:04:52 6 4
bbc
Typical speculative article from the BBC. Nothing official has been announced yet so will wait and see whether the "test to release scheme" continues.
734
09/02/2021 13:03:49 0 0
bbc
Also if they name the test dates these entitled people will just be 'at home' on those days and do as they please the rest of the time.
763
09/02/2021 13:20:08 0 0
bbc
I thought that. Dare I say I thought about coming back to UK from France to see brother in a care home I have not seen for 7 months. (cannot anyway now) Tried to make a plan if things improved to get a test in UK, maybe test to release, it's really hard to find somewhere. I have "friends" who paid but did not get the results. I really don't think the UK is able to do this at all..but hope so.
775
09/02/2021 13:33:30 0 0
bbc
Red list 33 vs rest of world, seems as confusing or clear as ever
791
09/02/2021 14:16:49 1 0
bbc
Indeed. I am also in search of this detail whether “test to release” is still valid for non red list countries.
27
09/02/2021 11:34:31 3 7
bbc
Pray tell everyone how you close external and internal borders?
53
09/02/2021 11:38:15 2 6
bbc
External borders the same way France did it, simple. Armed forces for internal borders I'm afraid.
54
09/02/2021 11:38:17 9 5
bbc
This is absolute and utter nonsense.
"Spot checks"

What about people, usually with lots of money, who are flying to Ireland and then on to the UK. Ireland has a 'common travel' area with the UK!!!!!Q
55
09/02/2021 11:38:31 4 26
bbc
I'm vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine which is the best one. Why am I not able to travel freely, and why am I being criminalised for seeing other vaccinated people?
78
09/02/2021 11:41:31 9 1
bbc
You could still have the virus and infect others - no one told you??
85
09/02/2021 11:42:45 2 1
bbc
Because they are not sure if the vaccine actually stops you catching the virus and therefore being a potential spreader.
102
09/02/2021 11:45:28 2 2
bbc
Your "I'm alright Jack" attitude is disgraceful .
115
09/02/2021 11:46:44 1 1
bbc
Because it takes approx 3 weeks to kick in and until restrictions are eased, you follow the guidelines like everyone else
118
09/02/2021 11:47:00 1 2
bbc
Didn't you think to ask or research why not?
Just because you've been vaccinated doesn't mean that you can't still possibly carry & transmit the virus
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210203-why-vaccinated-people-may-still-be-able-to-spread-covid-19
Removed
9
09/02/2021 11:30:57 20 7
bbc
This will only work if those self isolating at home actually stay in and come into contact with No one else.

Otherwise it's pointless, what are you going to do?
Put a tag on their leg to see if they do as expected.
56
09/02/2021 11:38:37 3 15
bbc
It won't work

There is no point apart from

"do something"
57
09/02/2021 11:38:42 67 35
bbc
This country is a joke... 11 months to late as usual
108
GW
09/02/2021 11:45:46 35 19
bbc
Idiots down voting see CONservatives bots out in force today
Removed
185
09/02/2021 11:53:54 11 2
bbc
Do you actually believe doing this 11 months ago would have stopped 100,000 plus people dying from this virus? It's the morons already in the country and breaching lockdown restrictions who are responsible I'm afraid.
318
09/02/2021 12:08:41 7 5
bbc
Erm ‘too’
Even 3 letter words seem problematic to remainers ??
451
09/02/2021 12:24:53 1 3
bbc
It is NOT too late.

They haven't even set up a proper quarantine system. It is simply window dressing.

Looks like you fell for it.

They want to keep the borders open i some form more than anything else.
Why .. I don't know. Its like a fixation for them. As if closing the borders properly means they have lost.

Perhaps Soros stops sponsoring them if they shut the border properly.
720
09/02/2021 13:00:17 0 0
bbc
12
22
09/02/2021 11:33:25 8 8
bbc
This time last year the UK had no meaningful stategy to prevent covid entering the country.

12 months on and 100,000 deaths later and they still have no meaningful restrictions in place.
58
MVS
09/02/2021 11:38:45 2 1
bbc
There are many restrictions in place. That does not mean that people are observing them. Just like there are restrictions on the speed you can drive your car, but many people ignore those too.
47
09/02/2021 11:37:11 9 11
bbc
People who break the self-isolation rules should spend at least ten days in solitary confinement in prison.

They are a danger to the public in general and to the vulnerable in particular.
59
09/02/2021 11:39:08 2 0
bbc
prisons are full
117
GW
09/02/2021 11:46:56 0 0
bbc
At least you will get vaccinated
29
09/02/2021 11:34:35 69 15
bbc
Correct me if I’m wrong but are we not to stay at home, so who the hell is flying about all over the place, it’s a joke
60
09/02/2021 11:39:14 60 5
bbc
Eyebrow drawing, fake tan pouting, selfie taking "Influencers"....??
561
09/02/2021 12:38:54 0 0
bbc
“Business men”
51
09/02/2021 11:37:38 33 17
bbc
I'm sure many will agree with this policy. But do they realise that, if it goes on for too long, it will destroy the airlines, the foreign travel industry and UK tourism? And the impact will be felt not just in those sectors, but throughout the economy.

And, of course, when people do want to travel again there will be limited choice and sky high prices (for business as well as holidaymakers).
61
09/02/2021 11:39:23 15 6
bbc
My thoughts entirely
62
P2
09/02/2021 11:39:29 33 10
bbc
12 months too late and littered with concessions that water down the effectiveness! Why can’t we just do it properly and at least get the full benefit instead of all these watered down measures that are 90% of the negatives without getting the benefit! Baffling!
750
09/02/2021 13:08:53 2 1
bbc
You cannot introduce an authoritarian state just like that. It needs to be done gradually. Freedoms will be removed incrementally until the population is ground down and capitulates.
21
09/02/2021 11:33:00 3 10
bbc
HAHA

UK is copying everything China has done and suggested to do?

Copy Copy Copy
63
09/02/2021 11:39:47 5 2
bbc
Not committing genocide against the Uighurs as yet....
47
09/02/2021 11:37:11 9 11
bbc
People who break the self-isolation rules should spend at least ten days in solitary confinement in prison.

They are a danger to the public in general and to the vulnerable in particular.
64
09/02/2021 11:39:48 3 0
bbc
People with opinions like this are more dangerous to the public.
93
09/02/2021 11:44:46 2 0
bbc
you beat me to that
107
09/02/2021 11:45:39 2 0
bbc
"people like you should spend at least ten days in solitary confinement" might have been a better reply :D
47
09/02/2021 11:37:11 9 11
bbc
People who break the self-isolation rules should spend at least ten days in solitary confinement in prison.

They are a danger to the public in general and to the vulnerable in particular.
65
09/02/2021 11:40:07 2 0
bbc
May be a danger...
66
09/02/2021 11:40:14 28 7
bbc
A lot of these measures are just box ticking exercises. My girlfriend is a trainee teacher and needs two negative tests before starting her next placement, she's had them and is ready to start in a months time; she could easily catch it before starting, if anything a positive result would be better as she is unlikely to get it again and take it to school.
67
09/02/2021 11:40:19 209 16
bbc
Mystified that people are still coming and going freely, when uk residents can't travel 6 miles. Why is air travel so important that it seems largely immune to any restrictions
95
09/02/2021 11:45:03 80 22
bbc
£££ from the doners/airlines!
151
09/02/2021 11:50:56 34 5
bbc
I completely agree with you! I hear the words "quarantine for those arriving from Covid hotspots" and immediately wonder why we're letting people in from those places at all???
190
Jax
09/02/2021 11:54:35 20 2
bbc
You must be joking. "Immune to restrictions". easyJet will not survive much longer. Same for BA short haul plus TUI UK and Jet2. 1.5m jobs. Massive revenue to UK lost. Freight will not continue much longer with passengers subsidizing the costs. Vast majority of british pilots have not flown for nearly a year.
241
09/02/2021 11:59:56 8 1
bbc
Not just Air travel, applies to Trains and Ships as well.
264
09/02/2021 12:03:06 27 5
bbc
C'mon mate - there are rich celebs who want to have birthdays on private island resorts. Of family members of our PM who want to visit the properties in Greece for a mini-break.

It's essential travel, obviously. And even if it wasn't, why should the rich, powerful & connected be expected to make do like the rest of us plebs?
322
Bob
09/02/2021 12:09:18 5 10
bbc
'So freely', 'immune to any restrictions'.

I suggest you visit the FCO website and see just how many there are.

You cannot take a holiday abroad right now, for starters. People are not travelling freely.
357
09/02/2021 12:13:48 9 3
bbc
Can't travel 6 miles?

Are you having a laugh?

It has been business as usual for everyone in the South East throughout this latest 'lockdown', nobody cares a jot.

It's far far better in the countryside here admittedly but there are certain 'communities' that aren't exactly buying into this at all - (to be fair they weren't changing their behavior from day 1 in March 2020)
361
09/02/2021 12:14:13 3 2
bbc
If they are securely locked up in a hotel for 10 days on arrival and not allowed to leave unless there is a fire then that's their choice but it needs to be strictly enforced.
388
Amy
09/02/2021 12:18:28 2 1
bbc
Largely because for a long time the spread of the virus in the Uk was internally sourced. testing has shown this. The Kent virus has confirmed this.

Now there is a risk of new mutants coming in there is some urgency in trying to stop it. Of course there are some people who believe it is too late - but the jury is out on that.
455
09/02/2021 12:25:16 1 1
bbc
Totally agree. I feel guilty for walkout outside my house.
519
09/02/2021 12:34:19 2 3
bbc
The Cold War Steve drawing from 3 Feb is perfect for this.
Death riding through Heathrow pulling a plague doctor and cart full of dead bodies, while Johnson and Richard Branson play tennis.
592
RG
09/02/2021 12:42:47 3 2
bbc
Not to mention the boat people that are pouring in!
613
09/02/2021 12:44:50 1 0
bbc
Air travel is down approx. 90%, so it's not exactly 'people coming and going freely. The UK is one of the most multicultural in the World, millions have family connections around the World. Birth to deaths occur and people will try and see their loved ones for those reasons. There are private jets travel too.
673
09/02/2021 12:46:59 1 0
bbc
Having to have antigen or PCR tests for both directions of flights I definitely don't call 'travelling freely'.
714
09/02/2021 12:58:54 0 0
bbc
According to a reply I got yesterday. The majority of the travellers are holders of British passports, many of them on business. Not that it matters because as we have seen the British are ignoring the rules anyway. Celebrities and sportsmen don't think the restrictions apply to them either, not forgetting partying students.
769
09/02/2021 13:22:03 0 0
bbc
Could it be that some people have different type of social life settings in comparison to yours and they should have choices too? Could it be that the business world has not shut down "yet"? Could it be that we were once led to believe that we lived in a democratic state and that we could actually have a choice and not been criminalised for haveing a say on our movements? Could it be...
824
09/02/2021 20:08:04 0 0
bbc
That's a dictatorship for you
835
10/02/2021 09:33:11 0 0
bbc
when you do your mandatory 2 PCR tests + 1 PCR test for test to release that 3 days outside going to test centres, hmmmm in mycase could be a 2hr train journey each way to comply
68
09/02/2021 11:40:20 72 14
bbc
For such a small country the control of our borders really shouldn't be this difficult .
258
09/02/2021 12:02:39 15 22
bbc
By no definition is the UK a small country.
620
09/02/2021 12:46:21 4 4
bbc
UK is a world hub with one of the biggest international transits in the world...small country...hilarious
41
09/02/2021 11:36:24 15 10
bbc
How about we stop all arrivals?
69
09/02/2021 11:40:27 7 9
bbc
How about we don't
31
09/02/2021 11:34:56 141 27
bbc
Why on earth didn't the Government do this 12 months ago, before the virus pandemic broke out and became established across the UK? They could likely have prevented its spread and the rate of infections. Government should have listened to the scientists and acted last winter.
70
09/02/2021 11:40:30 101 33
bbc
Because "Boris".

It is now well established that the preferred approach to problem solving with this government is to wait until the last minute when there is only one viable course of action left.
140
GW
09/02/2021 11:49:12 7 4
bbc
Correct Boris Hobsons Choice
254
09/02/2021 11:58:44 3 3
bbc
I think he's been too generous and given us too much freedom. He's tried to keep us as free as possible and avoid destroying our economy, but it's a difficult balancing act. Half of me wants strict rules and the other half wants no restrictions let people make their own minds up but that is probably asking too much of everyone.
577
09/02/2021 12:39:54 0 0
bbc
And then do the oppopsite
71
09/02/2021 11:40:36 13 11
bbc
UK years behind many other countries as usual. That is why UK has one of the highest death tolls in the world - not bad for a little island - Plague Island
134
09/02/2021 11:48:36 2 4
bbc
"Plague Island" where constant 200 scally uni students, weddings from "certain" communities, gym owners who refused to close. Border obsessed nutjobs like farage jetting in & out to attend trump rallies. Then your anti vax loonies. There's your DEATH'S
The sad truth is that under the leadership of Boris (saviour of Christmas) Johnson the UK has

Suffered the highest number of Covid deaths of any EU nation

Has suffered the 3rd highest number of deaths per 100,000 population of any nation on earth

Has the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

Is this what Boris meant when he promised that he would make the UK "world beating"?
72
09/02/2021 11:40:48 60 40
bbc
clearly the people of the uk have a very low intelligence level. If rules had been obeyed would we be in such a bad state?
But there are rule breakers in every single nation.

The uk is not unique nor is it any worse for this

The rule breaker blame game is Tory spin, dont you understand that?
284
09/02/2021 12:05:22 6 2
bbc
Yep, that’s the real reason.
The biggest mistake the uk government keeps making is trusting selfish brits to follow the rules without policing them.
419
09/02/2021 12:21:14 3 1
bbc
Clearly you are a government troll.
485
09/02/2021 12:28:48 4 0
bbc
Clearly Catseye27 blames everyone other than themselves. The policies were implemented by the Government, therefore they are responsible. If they are unimplementable or unenforceable it was a fault in the policy.
713
09/02/2021 12:58:49 2 0
bbc
In a national 'survey' some 4+ years ago we discovered that 52% of the population aren't very bright. They preferred a lie on the side of a bus over multiple advice from people who know what they're talking about. In the long term the damage will be far greater than that of this awful pandemic.
766
09/02/2021 13:22:31 0 0
bbc
Blame everyone else except the people in charge?
73
09/02/2021 11:40:53 33 9
bbc
Who are these people? Why are they travelling anyway?
143
09/02/2021 11:49:32 11 22
bbc
Journalists
546
09/02/2021 12:37:12 1 2
bbc
People with jobs and family abroad. "Global Britain", remember? You can't travel for fun at the moment. Restrictions and lockdowns are everywhere.

Testing before travel and on arrival is the best measure. Quarantine does not make much difference, from the moment you arrive you have the same restrictions as everyone else. I would focus a bit more on actually enforcing restrictions at home.
667
09/02/2021 12:51:51 2 1
bbc
Sports teams,BBC journalists to report on the sports teams,you tubers,social media stars,selfish people,low level business people who can,t afford a private jet,more sports people and then the really selfish people who don,t give a monkeys.
669
09/02/2021 12:52:13 0 2
bbc
So frightening how quick many are to completely, and indefinitely, write off all of our freedoms. Astonishing, massive, media driven over reaction. Thank God we have some back benchers fighting our corner.
729
09/02/2021 13:01:48 1 0
bbc
The entitled - 21,000 of them every day!
29
09/02/2021 11:34:35 69 15
bbc
Correct me if I’m wrong but are we not to stay at home, so who the hell is flying about all over the place, it’s a joke
74
09/02/2021 11:40:57 7 26
bbc
Why should you isolate and stay at home if you've had a vaccine that is 95% effective and studies show is 99% capable of stopping you spreading the virus to others. I'm vaccinated and want to visit my Spanish home for spring.
268
09/02/2021 12:03:35 14 6
bbc
If that is what you want then go.

As far as I am concerned, anybody who wants to leave the UK should be allowed to just as long as you can find someone to take you and somewhere that will accept you.

Returning is however a different matter and should require :-
Negative COVID-19 test.
14 days confirmed and paid quarantine.
Insurance to cover all private COVID-19 medical costs
276
09/02/2021 11:59:40 7 0
bbc
what studies are you reading? The ones in the Beano?
319
09/02/2021 12:08:42 9 4
bbc
With that disgraceful sense of entitlement I suggest you stay there. Permanently. Enjoy Brexit Spain
467
09/02/2021 12:26:17 9 2
bbc
tough , suck it princess
743
09/02/2021 13:06:29 0 0
bbc
I'd be happy with a cuppa round a friend's after all this...as long as the teabag's left in for precisely 3 minutes
The sad truth is that under the leadership of Boris (saviour of Christmas) Johnson the UK has

Suffered the highest number of Covid deaths of any EU nation

Has suffered the 3rd highest number of deaths per 100,000 population of any nation on earth

Has the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

Is this what Boris meant when he promised that he would make the UK "world beating"?
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jon
09/02/2021 11:40:58 16 13
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It’s not sensible to make comparisons as countries record deaths differently. For example Spain has 60,000 deaths officially but excess death are above 80,000.
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09/02/2021 11:46:15 15 7
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Quite...and Russia's death toll has doubled overnight as they started acknowledging rather than hiding totals...we will only know when all this nightmare is over....UK as usual has been totally (indeed overly) clear in possibly attributing deaths to Covid...
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09/02/2021 11:55:56 12 4
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And this is also true for the UK. The UK death toll is way higher than what has been reported :-(
Well you are aware that the UKs death toll from Covid could sadly be as high as 120,000 arent you?

And dont forget thet the UK only records deaths within 28 days of a positive test

Many other nations, including Belgium, still do as we did at the start and record all deaths where Covid is suspected

This is why we need a full public enquiry into how Boris handled the pandemic
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09/02/2021 12:48:30 1 0
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I don't care how you calculate it, in excess of 100,000 dead is an appalling figure.
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09/02/2021 13:01:56 0 0
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How many deaths has Australia had?
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09/02/2021 11:32:53 0 3
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What happens if you haven't got a negative test result? Will you be returned to your place of departure at the next opportunity? What's the point of a fine and then allowing the travellers into the UK? Perhaps I'm not understanding how this all works. Any one care to clear things up for me please?
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09/02/2021 11:41:01 1 0
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They get denied entry it’s that simple
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09/02/2021 11:33:00 3 10
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HAHA

UK is copying everything China has done and suggested to do?

Copy Copy Copy
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09/02/2021 11:41:13 1 0
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Ironic
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09/02/2021 11:38:31 4 26
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I'm vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine which is the best one. Why am I not able to travel freely, and why am I being criminalised for seeing other vaccinated people?
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09/02/2021 11:41:31 9 1
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You could still have the virus and infect others - no one told you??
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09/02/2021 11:45:35 2 1
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An Israeli study shows the Pfizer vaccine is 99% effective at stopping transmission of the virus. I'm very happy with that.
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09/02/2021 11:41:40 14 9
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Much needed but too little too late, again. Also why are Government paying for quarantine hotels? If you travel you should bear the burden. Essential travel is already excluded from restrictions!
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09/02/2021 11:46:12 5 4
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Keep up. The cost is paid by the travellers.
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09/02/2021 11:31:10 34 14
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Way too late, this should have been in place 10 months ago,
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09/02/2021 11:41:41 9 12
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More like 14 months!

Too late now.
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09/02/2021 11:28:48 122 28
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Prof Van Tam is a legend. Thank you for your clear explanations and down to earth common sense.
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09/02/2021 11:41:49 15 8
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That is true. And emphasised even more when compared to the nonsense from the blustering clown who usually stands next to him.
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09/02/2021 11:48:52 19 8
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Yup, our Prime Minister is just an embarrassment. The people who put him in the post should be ashamed.
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09/02/2021 11:42:04 8 13
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12 months too late blah blah blah, Bojo blah blah blah, Brexit too blah blah blah, and other meaningless comments.

That should just about sum up this HYS.
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09/02/2021 11:45:34 0 7
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BORE OFF
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09/02/2021 11:44:38 2 0
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Why are they meaningless? I think the fact that you’re unable to counter the comments about the governments terrible performance shows that they are entirely valid.
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09/02/2021 11:42:04 11 7
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I suspect that most of us who have to travel for business would have no issue with this. The problem is getting the testing. In other countries one can book someone to come to the place where you're staying, do the test, and have the results in less than 12 hours. Why hasn't some enterprising person sorted that out here?
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:45:19 3 3
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They have. Search and you will find.
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09/02/2021 12:31:33 0 0
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Normally agree with you - But I don't see much appetite for 1 week trip = 3 weeks and having to sit on plane with 100s of others in a mask for 10 hours plus. In addition more and more CFOs are seeing the huge cost savings from not having a sucking travel expense budget on the P&L..I think for 21/22 it will only be 'love travel (hate home/partner/kids)/senior execs' or emergency engineer types.
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09/02/2021 11:42:13 3 10
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"It is in addition to the current rules which require travellers arriving in the UK - whether by boat, train or plane - to show proof of a negative Covid-19 test to be allowed entry."
Unless of course you get a taxi ride on a border force vessel.
Then no worries, in you come
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09/02/2021 12:18:10 0 0
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Thats not the reason and you know it.

No doubt you also would like to think the Kent variant arrived on the same boats.

Thats not true either.
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09/02/2021 11:38:31 4 26
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I'm vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine which is the best one. Why am I not able to travel freely, and why am I being criminalised for seeing other vaccinated people?
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09/02/2021 11:42:45 2 1
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Because they are not sure if the vaccine actually stops you catching the virus and therefore being a potential spreader.
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baz
09/02/2021 11:42:46 6 13
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Well its another nail in the coffin of the tourism industry. And its helping to keep a lid on all of our freedom. When will this idiocy end? A total disgrace all this unnecessary control of people that are frankly not at risk anyway. An utter shambles.
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09/02/2021 11:45:10 2 6
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If you think all that matters is some champ socialist visiting their second mansion in Italy or ski villa. Then really does say a lot about you. Fat cat Branson lover.
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09/02/2021 11:43:36 15 9
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Priti Patel wanted to control our borders in March, but got overruled. What a mistake that turned out to be.....
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09/02/2021 11:45:34 11 7
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Yes, but to be fair, she just wanted to stop foreigners. It was nothing about safety and she had no plan that could remotely work.
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09/02/2021 11:43:50 5 13
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Bring in vaccine passports. I've been vaccinated and want to get back to normal. As a key worker, I deserve a long overdue holiday.
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09/02/2021 11:46:51 6 1
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Me me me
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Pso
09/02/2021 11:47:02 2 0
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I would love to get the vaccine but not in the right group just yet. Meanwhile even though loads of people are turning it down there is no 'queue jumping'
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09/02/2021 11:52:28 2 0
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I am a keyworker, I am in my 60's. I haven't had a holiday since Sept 2019. Am I bleating? No! I will wait my turn for the vaccine and wait for a holiday. Br grateful you are alive.
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09/02/2021 11:58:15 0 0
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They will happen in some guise
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09/02/2021 11:44:24 6 4
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This policy will add in the region of £500 pp to the cost of foreign travel. Most countries require you to have a negative test before arrival. Then you will need another test before returning, then another 2 tests during quarantine. Each test costs c£120 at present.

Business travel will be cut back dramatically, families will face another year without seeing one another and tourism will die.
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09/02/2021 11:36:17 65 2
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Interesting to see this report up at the same time as the one stating that "Tui has said it expects to run 80% of its normal capacity for this summer, with 2.8 million customers already booked for its holidays." That's a lot of tests and a lot of people supposed to be in quarantine...
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09/02/2021 11:44:34 30 4
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TUI have caught Johnson's high-transmission optimism.
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GW
09/02/2021 11:44:34 18 8
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Notice BBC didnt interview the person who been to see her mum in South Africa came back via Dubai not checked when she returned. I cannot see my children who live a mile away though. CONservatives we are all in it together Boris nothing has changed!
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09/02/2021 11:37:38 33 17
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I'm sure many will agree with this policy. But do they realise that, if it goes on for too long, it will destroy the airlines, the foreign travel industry and UK tourism? And the impact will be felt not just in those sectors, but throughout the economy.

And, of course, when people do want to travel again there will be limited choice and sky high prices (for business as well as holidaymakers).
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09/02/2021 11:44:36 1 2
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It is already in place in many countries.
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09/02/2021 11:39:48 3 0
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People with opinions like this are more dangerous to the public.
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09/02/2021 11:44:46 2 0
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you beat me to that
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09/02/2021 11:33:00 3 10
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HAHA

UK is copying everything China has done and suggested to do?

Copy Copy Copy
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09/02/2021 11:45:00 0 1
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I agree that Boris & the govt have made bad mistakes, & have got some things right. I find that understandable given this is a one is a 100 year event - hindsight is wonderful. However, to suggest he's just copied China is ridiculous - the Chinese govt lied (& lies) on numbers and prevented scientific evidence from being released as WHO rules require
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09/02/2021 11:50:45 0 0
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HAHA, YOU HAVE NO CLUE RIGHT ?

COPY COPY COPY STOP COPYING CHINA
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09/02/2021 11:40:19 209 16
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Mystified that people are still coming and going freely, when uk residents can't travel 6 miles. Why is air travel so important that it seems largely immune to any restrictions
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09/02/2021 11:45:03 80 22
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£££ from the doners/airlines!
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09/02/2021 12:20:52 5 0
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Donors even!
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09/02/2021 12:51:50 0 0
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I'm not sure that is the case but they do seem to have a very strong lobby with the Government??? Even so all these flights cannot be good for Climate Change can they??
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baz
09/02/2021 11:42:46 6 13
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Well its another nail in the coffin of the tourism industry. And its helping to keep a lid on all of our freedom. When will this idiocy end? A total disgrace all this unnecessary control of people that are frankly not at risk anyway. An utter shambles.
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09/02/2021 11:45:10 2 6
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If you think all that matters is some champ socialist visiting their second mansion in Italy or ski villa. Then really does say a lot about you. Fat cat Branson lover.
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09/02/2021 11:45:17 6 6
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Too little too late!

We should be following Australia's lead in hotel quarantine for all incomers.:
1,000 deaths and a 2.6% growth in economy

UK: 100,000+ deaths and economy slump. Boris has failed on both counts.
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09/02/2021 11:51:25 2 5
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No British people failed. With their need to for a massive illegal rave.
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09/02/2021 11:57:16 0 1
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Look how that’s worked out for them recently
The sad truth is that under the leadership of Boris (saviour of Christmas) Johnson the UK has

Suffered the highest number of Covid deaths of any EU nation

Has suffered the 3rd highest number of deaths per 100,000 population of any nation on earth

Has the worst performing economy of any major nation worldwide

Is this what Boris meant when he promised that he would make the UK "world beating"?
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09/02/2021 11:45:18 20 7
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Sadly Boris Johnsons dither and delay regarding the virus have cost the UK dearly

Not many leaders would of allowed Cheltenham races to go ahead in March or put their capital city into tier 2 in November, putting wealth before health
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09/02/2021 11:42:04 11 7
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I suspect that most of us who have to travel for business would have no issue with this. The problem is getting the testing. In other countries one can book someone to come to the place where you're staying, do the test, and have the results in less than 12 hours. Why hasn't some enterprising person sorted that out here?
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MVS
09/02/2021 11:45:19 3 3
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They have. Search and you will find.
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09/02/2021 11:45:21 8 5
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If so has been to a country where the South African variant is growing then get them into a quarantine hotel for 10 days . ASAP.

This Variant is dangerous , and could set us back a year , zero complacency .