Universal Credit: Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs
09/02/2021 | news | politics | 464
Ministers are urged not to replace weekly Universal Credit increase with a one-off payment next month.
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:15:37 30 26
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And when that year is up they'll moan again. Classic case of giving someone something extra and then they moan more when it is taken away than when they never had it in the first place.
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09/02/2021 11:25:56 27 26
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Let me guess, you voted Tory and voted to leave the EU, you're quite well-off thank you very much, don't believe in charity and you're retired. Am I right?
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09/02/2021 11:19:46 59 34
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The more you give people in life the more they want. Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back in to work.
5
09/02/2021 11:22:02 36 65
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no its just pure tory evil
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09/02/2021 11:22:17 14 14
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That logic results in no benefits / support at all. "Get a job or die in the gutter" (the US 'system'...)
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09/02/2021 11:34:13 12 13
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Unfortunately when you have disaster capitalists hell bent on wrecking the economy sometimes there isn't jobs for everybody in the right locations. What's your solution to this problem?
97
09/02/2021 12:53:48 5 2
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the job centre is about 10 million jobs short of returning to its bullying of the weak charter.
They may as well now call it Universal Basic Income-as that is what they have made it with Neo Lib collpase of UK/West Economies.
The Tories will still bring in millions of migrants to lower wages still further so more people need UBI (sorry UC its old name).
ps -for every extra £1 earned UC takes 67%.
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09/02/2021 13:21:34 9 4
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It's no surprise to see negative comments from Tory voters.

"The standard allowance varies from around £340 to just under £600 a month, depending on your age or whether you are single."

I'd love to put Tory voters onto these benefit rates for a year; of course some of those recently made redundant will have voted Tory.

Most people in the UK are 2-3 pay packets from being in financial trouble!
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09/02/2021 14:01:44 3 1
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40% of people claiming UC are in work so how does that work? I think UC is more designed to slimline the benefits system so that people have some sort of income to cover basic living costs.

If you want to encourage more people on UC to work more then create more jobs and reduce the effective tax rate of over 60% in Benefits lost for income gained, that won't suit your narrative though will it....
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09/02/2021 14:52:13 5 1
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"The more you give people in life the more they want"
They want to be able to survive without having to make tough choices like if to eat or pay their bills. They want a welfare safety net that is not so inadequate they need to go beg charities for assistance.
245
09/02/2021 14:55:14 3 0
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"Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back into work"
UC is not just for the unemployed
UC is for people in work on low incomes
UC is for people who have been assessed as effectively incapable of any and all forms of paid employment due disability
UC for people who are deemed unavailable for paid employment due to full-time caring responsibilities
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09/02/2021 11:20:17 43 25
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Extend for a year! It will lead to extreme poverty.....
(One year later) Don't take it away ..it will lead to extreme poverty.....
Another year after - increase the payment...it's not enough!
There is cross party consensus on this.

We’ve spent £22b on a serial failing Serco and serial failing Harding.....perhaps that’s where you ire should be directed?
383
10/02/2021 00:44:02 0 0
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Quite right.
Pay living wages, Cameron's cut-down version.
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09/02/2021 11:21:06 44 10
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It would be nice if some of this money could be generated from reducing tax loopholes, hiding money offshore & generally letting big businesses get away with paying sod all in tax.

However, I expect this money will just be borrowed and that the debt (plus interest) will be passed on to our children.
7
09/02/2021 11:23:43 34 23
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Of course, these are Tories!
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09/02/2021 11:19:46 59 34
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The more you give people in life the more they want. Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back in to work.
5
09/02/2021 11:22:02 36 65
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no its just pure tory evil
2
09/02/2021 11:19:46 59 34
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The more you give people in life the more they want. Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back in to work.
6
09/02/2021 11:22:17 14 14
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That logic results in no benefits / support at all. "Get a job or die in the gutter" (the US 'system'...)
136
09/02/2021 13:21:09 3 2
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not so --- they have been getting helicoptor stimulus checks (US mis-spelling) .. with more to follow- Its rubbish (welfare) in US but by 2024 they will now move from £5.00 minimum wage to £11.68 ...

The UK is going through a correction long overdue. Its created a massive poverty class and then tried to pick on them ... when there is nothing to pick except impoverished cold and hungry children.
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09/02/2021 11:21:06 44 10
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It would be nice if some of this money could be generated from reducing tax loopholes, hiding money offshore & generally letting big businesses get away with paying sod all in tax.

However, I expect this money will just be borrowed and that the debt (plus interest) will be passed on to our children.
7
09/02/2021 11:23:43 34 23
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Of course, these are Tories!
302
09/02/2021 16:09:28 2 0
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With an 80 seat majority!
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Bob
09/02/2021 11:15:37 30 26
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And when that year is up they'll moan again. Classic case of giving someone something extra and then they moan more when it is taken away than when they never had it in the first place.
8
09/02/2021 11:25:56 27 26
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Let me guess, you voted Tory and voted to leave the EU, you're quite well-off thank you very much, don't believe in charity and you're retired. Am I right?
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09/02/2021 11:30:38 19 13
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No, he's a realist.
8
09/02/2021 11:25:56 27 26
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Let me guess, you voted Tory and voted to leave the EU, you're quite well-off thank you very much, don't believe in charity and you're retired. Am I right?
9
09/02/2021 11:30:38 19 13
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No, he's a realist.
104
09/02/2021 12:58:25 8 6
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Fascist more likely
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09/02/2021 11:30:51 12 10
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"Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs"

I agree with this suggestion.
Provided that the cost is paid by MPs out of their own wages, and not by taxpayers being mugged again.
Perhaps we should focus on mis use of tax payers money rather than something there is cross party agreement on?

Perhaps scrutinise the awarding of contracts to the likes of Lord Ashcroft?
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09/02/2021 11:32:12 8 14
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Can one of the right wingers decrying this please explain to me why the basic level of UC is below the level of Pension Credit?

We can then move on the indexation of benefits and preferential treatment of state pensions via Triple Lock which isn't afforded to other benefits......
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09/02/2021 11:36:28 10 2
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Part of the answer is about what incentives we want to put in place to influence behaviours. For people of working age, it reasonable (I think) that the system should incentivize people to go out and work. That incentive isn't necessarily appropriate in the case of people past retirement age.
I hope this answers your legitimate question?
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09/02/2021 11:37:06 11 2
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Pensioners are meant to be retired, people on UC are meant to get off their behinds and go and support themselves.
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09/02/2021 11:33:54 65 40
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It's easy to be generous with other peoples money.

It does not make sense that suddenly UC now needs to be £1000 a year higher than it was a year ago.
86
09/02/2021 12:47:04 35 34
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its a lot less than Furlough people got ...

And home schooling and working has massively increased gas and electricity bills..

There is the reason .. and the sense - hope you get it ....

Get angry at yourself for not having the correct level of empathy skill. I used to be like you - easily pointed at the poor. Now I am educated.
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09/02/2021 12:49:52 15 12
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every penny of UC comes back into the Economy. These people are the only true participants in the economy - They give 100% and take 0% from the Economy. They have little or no Pension tax relief , little or no private pension.

Does even 20% of QE come into the UK economy ?
BOE printer should not only be used to inlfate (shore up) share prices and home assets ... the well off cant have it all.
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09/02/2021 13:20:48 13 9
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It's no surprise to see negative comments from Tory voters.

"The standard allowance varies from around £340 to just under £600 a month, depending on your age or whether you are single."

I'd love to put Tory voters onto these benefit rates for a year; of course some of those recently made redundant will have voted Tory.

Most people in the UK are 2-3 pay packets from being in financial trouble!
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09/02/2021 13:42:57 11 6
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Its easy for Serco , Dido and Crapita ... is that what you mean ...
Its easy for people with Pensions tax relief @ 40 % .. is that what you mean by other peoples money ?
Socialise the losses and privatise the profits... its easy indeed.

UK heading for Revolution if this continues and the Tories even cut the Army and Police .... There is only one winner in people V State.
250
09/02/2021 15:03:53 7 4
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no i agree it should be £1040.

52 * £20 a week.

Govt collapsed the underclass just in time economy that it created.

No jobs for people unless in lucky jobs-so dont confuse your luck with fairness.

The UC was masked (by £20 uplift) so millions more NEW UC voters would not see how stingy and unworkable it is / was .. The underclass is now 10 million voters-sly Tories thought they could mask it.
380
10/02/2021 00:40:31 0 0
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It was designed to make the benefit system more logical, whild still allowing those on low incomes a reasonable standard of living, before covid and brexit.

That extra £1000 helped maintain that,; we are now about to see a massive reduction in jobs and income.
That, and more, will be necessary soon.
463
10/02/2021 21:46:12 0 0
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The amounts of universal credit pale into insignificance when compared to the bank bail outs. UC money is not wasted..it gets spent, keeping people in jobs.
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09/02/2021 11:19:46 59 34
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The more you give people in life the more they want. Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back in to work.
13
09/02/2021 11:34:13 12 13
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Unfortunately when you have disaster capitalists hell bent on wrecking the economy sometimes there isn't jobs for everybody in the right locations. What's your solution to this problem?
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09/02/2021 11:32:12 8 14
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Can one of the right wingers decrying this please explain to me why the basic level of UC is below the level of Pension Credit?

We can then move on the indexation of benefits and preferential treatment of state pensions via Triple Lock which isn't afforded to other benefits......
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09/02/2021 11:36:28 10 2
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Part of the answer is about what incentives we want to put in place to influence behaviours. For people of working age, it reasonable (I think) that the system should incentivize people to go out and work. That incentive isn't necessarily appropriate in the case of people past retirement age.
I hope this answers your legitimate question?
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09/02/2021 12:02:22 1 1
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But if there isn't work to be had or it's in the wrong place then what's the answer. Do non-retired people have lower costs than pensioners on Pension Credit?
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09/02/2021 11:32:12 8 14
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Can one of the right wingers decrying this please explain to me why the basic level of UC is below the level of Pension Credit?

We can then move on the indexation of benefits and preferential treatment of state pensions via Triple Lock which isn't afforded to other benefits......
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09/02/2021 11:37:06 11 2
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Pensioners are meant to be retired, people on UC are meant to get off their behinds and go and support themselves.
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09/02/2021 11:39:14 7 2
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thanks, you put it more succinctly than I did :-)
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09/02/2021 11:37:22 35 15
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Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs....this is a lifeline to many people and has merit being extended. However the self entitled brigade will be queuing up to have it extended beyond a year and will moan when its not. The whole purpose of Universal Credit is to encourage people to get back to work.
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09/02/2021 12:11:42 26 16
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The level it has been set at is low and very far from generous and is why you hear so many people needing food banks
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09/02/2021 12:12:50 10 6
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No the whole purpose of UC is the supply of very cheap labour to be exploited by those that fund the Conservative party.
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09/02/2021 13:23:08 6 3
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most do work on slave wages .. which qualifies them for UC ... KEEP UP its 2021 not 1980 ....
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CJ
09/02/2021 11:39:11 3 5
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The £20 extra deemed essential should apply to those still on legacy benefits such as Income based Employment & Support allowance. The people on that are slowly being migrated to Universal credit. However as the program is a slow one they miss out on the extra cash if not migrated. Therefore, have to live on basic rate Esa which is the same as basic rate UC WITHOUT THE £20 BONUS! TELL MP'S THAT!
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09/02/2021 11:37:06 11 2
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Pensioners are meant to be retired, people on UC are meant to get off their behinds and go and support themselves.
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09/02/2021 11:39:14 7 2
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thanks, you put it more succinctly than I did :-)
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09/02/2021 11:40:53 29 17
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People seem to want to live a comfortable life on benefits - it should never be comfortable when you're living on the charity of others.

Pensions and genuine disabled should have a decent standard of living, those who excessively procreate or can't be bothered to work should have a meagre existence.
Boring Daily Mail / Express lackey trolling.
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09/02/2021 13:10:47 4 1
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What a nasty comment
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09/02/2021 13:28:03 4 1
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They do in Tory workhouse UK ..Most on UC work you know !!
UK fertility rate is 1.6 and falling ... Keep up .... we cant even replace the population due to family finances.. hence rent an economic migrant to lower wages still further is a gift the North will now share with the Home Counties and SE.
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09/02/2021 15:35:36 2 1
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A comfortable life? How about a life! Walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you start berating them. Call ourselves a first world caring society! Some here would happily re open the workhouses!!! Appalling!!!!
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09/02/2021 11:41:58 9 2
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At this point just chuck everyone a £500 relief check and be done with it. Madness has gone on too long.

To be funded through stopping transferring billions (£4.5billion as per NAO) to organised crime through bounce back loans. That was/is insanity.
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09/02/2021 11:30:51 12 10
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"Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs"

I agree with this suggestion.
Provided that the cost is paid by MPs out of their own wages, and not by taxpayers being mugged again.
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09/02/2021 11:37:07 7 3
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Perhaps we should focus on mis use of tax payers money rather than something there is cross party agreement on?

Perhaps scrutinise the awarding of contracts to the likes of Lord Ashcroft?
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09/02/2021 11:53:15 1 1
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Both are wrong. Dodgy govt contracts, and an overly-generous benefits system, in their different ways, are both a mis-use of taxpayers' money.
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09/02/2021 11:52:42 17 9
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Whilst I agree that the purpose of UC & other working age benefits is to provide an incentive, but we are in a global crisis & jobs are being lost daily. If there are no jobs then people cannot get back to work. What I do not understand is what additional expenses the extra £20 is for that is specifically related to the current crisis. I fear that once given it will be impossible to withdraw
246
09/02/2021 14:55:33 6 2
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Statutory sick pay was £94/week, Jobseeker’s Allowance & universal credit both worked out at £73.10/week. When lots of middle class lost their jobs the government didn’t want to lose their votes so inflated UC to the same level as SSP. If covid hadn’t happened UC would still be £317.82/month
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09/02/2021 11:20:17 43 25
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Extend for a year! It will lead to extreme poverty.....
(One year later) Don't take it away ..it will lead to extreme poverty.....
Another year after - increase the payment...it's not enough!
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09/02/2021 11:39:39 36 14
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There is cross party consensus on this.

We’ve spent £22b on a serial failing Serco and serial failing Harding.....perhaps that’s where you ire should be directed?
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09/02/2021 13:08:11 7 0
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What about those on legacy benefits (mostly disabled people and carers) they were excluded from the £20 increase. They are being expected to live on less. According to MPs in poverty and in some cases destitution. Do they not deserve the same help as those on Universal Credit? Why no mention of them by the BBC?
Perhaps we should focus on mis use of tax payers money rather than something there is cross party agreement on?

Perhaps scrutinise the awarding of contracts to the likes of Lord Ashcroft?
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09/02/2021 11:53:15 1 1
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Both are wrong. Dodgy govt contracts, and an overly-generous benefits system, in their different ways, are both a mis-use of taxpayers' money.
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09/02/2021 11:40:53 29 17
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People seem to want to live a comfortable life on benefits - it should never be comfortable when you're living on the charity of others.

Pensions and genuine disabled should have a decent standard of living, those who excessively procreate or can't be bothered to work should have a meagre existence.
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09/02/2021 11:43:27 19 16
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Boring Daily Mail / Express lackey trolling.
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09/02/2021 11:47:26 12 1
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Yes bounce back loans need attention. Very easily obtained via fraud.....the sums I’ve heard mentioned are substantially larger than £4.5b.
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09/02/2021 13:10:30 12 0
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The incompetence over these loans is staggering!

Would a commercial bank offer such large loans without sufficient oversight?!

And the value defrauded salted away by thieves and lost to the real economy.
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09/02/2021 11:56:48 7 4
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Labour playing politics again, same as the bedroom tax which was really just a policy saying those getting free housing shouldn’t have a 3 bed semi if there are just two of them.
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09/02/2021 11:57:52 4 3
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Although I appreciate the help this money is for people
We could see a huge rise in unemployment in the near future.
The cost of this for millions more would be huge
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09/02/2021 12:04:28 3 1
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Ah, yes, but it won't be these MPs that are asked to foot the bill, will it?
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09/02/2021 12:01:01 4 5
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This has ben an absolute life line for those on a low income, it has made the difference in most cases of choosing food or heating.
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09/02/2021 12:03:24 4 3
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As is clear from the picture of the lady above this article. :-)
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09/02/2021 11:36:28 10 2
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Part of the answer is about what incentives we want to put in place to influence behaviours. For people of working age, it reasonable (I think) that the system should incentivize people to go out and work. That incentive isn't necessarily appropriate in the case of people past retirement age.
I hope this answers your legitimate question?
30
09/02/2021 12:02:22 1 1
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But if there isn't work to be had or it's in the wrong place then what's the answer. Do non-retired people have lower costs than pensioners on Pension Credit?
29
09/02/2021 12:01:01 4 5
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This has ben an absolute life line for those on a low income, it has made the difference in most cases of choosing food or heating.
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09/02/2021 12:03:24 4 3
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As is clear from the picture of the lady above this article. :-)
Removed
84
09/02/2021 12:38:00 0 0
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What is it about you Tories, that you can not bear to face facts?

The BBC is Tory from end to end: hence the photo.
Removed
28
09/02/2021 11:57:52 4 3
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Although I appreciate the help this money is for people
We could see a huge rise in unemployment in the near future.
The cost of this for millions more would be huge
32
09/02/2021 12:04:28 3 1
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Ah, yes, but it won't be these MPs that are asked to foot the bill, will it?
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Leo
09/02/2021 12:04:45 8 6
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The DWP stats indicate that 190,000 claimants receive JSA. They have not been given the extra £20.00. They have managed. They of course get the same amount as UC, in fact slightly less.

So I see no reason for UC claimants to get this extra payment, or for it to continue.

If the £20 made a difference it would have been given to those on JSA: therefore clearly it doesn't.
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09/02/2021 13:14:04 4 1
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UC pays for in work support and housing costs unlike JSA
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09/02/2021 13:31:10 1 0
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Many of them "manage" by relying on charity food banks to eat, or going hungry or cold to pay their bills.
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09/02/2021 12:05:16 3 7
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Not sure about whether this is good policy but I'm sure many in the low-income group "need" it.

On UK finances, state pensions. Are they not more generous than ever? On top of winter fuel payments, rent (if applicable) being paid, council tax being paid (if applicable).

30 years ago the state pension was perhaps woefully low- now after many years of the triple lock, time to take a 2nd look?
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09/02/2021 12:26:00 4 0
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You have not researched the triple lock. Most pensioners received an additional £3.00 per week last year, somewhat less than £20.00 per week. Winter fuel allowance is £200 per annum, free bus travel is only relevant if such a service exists. Anyone receiving a full State Pension does not qualify for rental and Council Tax funding.
35
09/02/2021 12:05:31 11 9
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I was on benefits 20 years ago my benefits were reduced forcing me into work if they would of gone up i would probably of never of worked.
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09/02/2021 12:10:01 10 10
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Ooooh nice anecdotal story to suit your narrative of cutting benefits!??
46
09/02/2021 12:14:21 5 1
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Your shortcomings are no reason to deny help to people of superior character.
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09/02/2021 12:37:50 5 0
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You shouldn't judge everyone by your own poor standards, Louise. There are many good people out there too you know.
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09/02/2021 12:09:19 12 9
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I like the picture at top of this article, women with new jeans and her car keys. Is a car not a luxury many in work cannot afford a car but on benefits its your god given right.
45
09/02/2021 12:13:32 9 5
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Try living on benefits and see if you can afford to run a car.

Pro tip: you can't.
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09/02/2021 14:09:03 0 1
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It's a stock photo Louise, sigh.....
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09/02/2021 12:05:31 11 9
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I was on benefits 20 years ago my benefits were reduced forcing me into work if they would of gone up i would probably of never of worked.
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09/02/2021 12:10:01 10 10
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Ooooh nice anecdotal story to suit your narrative of cutting benefits!??
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09/02/2021 12:10:49 3 0
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Are people who were out of work before the pandemic also receiving this £20?
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09/02/2021 12:36:53 1 0
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No we aren't.
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09/02/2021 11:37:22 35 15
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Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs....this is a lifeline to many people and has merit being extended. However the self entitled brigade will be queuing up to have it extended beyond a year and will moan when its not. The whole purpose of Universal Credit is to encourage people to get back to work.
39
09/02/2021 12:11:42 26 16
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The level it has been set at is low and very far from generous and is why you hear so many people needing food banks
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10/02/2021 00:41:50 0 0
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And school meals fkr their kida.
40
09/02/2021 12:12:20 11 12
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The older people on here who have homes, final salary pensions, triple lock state pensions, free public transport, a whole range of other state benefits appal me when they would begrudge those who have so much less & who are unlikely to ever has as much just a small increase in the level of social assistance they receive. There are children living in poverty. You lot would bring back workhouses!
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09/02/2021 12:17:11 3 7
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I do wonder whether some kind of institutional welfare service might represent a better balance of fairness for the taxpayer. Obviously, without the more grotesque abuses highlighted by Dickens. And with separate-sex accommodation, we could stop this problem of welfare claimants having children that they can't afford.
I think you've hit on something here.
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09/02/2021 12:15:20 4 2
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Of course they would: they're devout Tories.

And then they're unhappy at being called the Nasty Party, which they are.
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09/02/2021 12:31:01 6 1
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As one of those people falling into the category to which you refer, I agree with you completely. Times are really hard for a lot of those younger than us. All our working lives we had uninterrupted employment and housing costs compared to today as a % of income was considerably lower. They are in a catch 22 situation. They have to pay very high rent and therefore unable to save for a mortgage.
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09/02/2021 11:37:22 35 15
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Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs....this is a lifeline to many people and has merit being extended. However the self entitled brigade will be queuing up to have it extended beyond a year and will moan when its not. The whole purpose of Universal Credit is to encourage people to get back to work.
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09/02/2021 12:12:50 10 6
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No the whole purpose of UC is the supply of very cheap labour to be exploited by those that fund the Conservative party.
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10/02/2021 00:42:32 0 0
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And continuation of zero-hour contracts.
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09/02/2021 12:14:56 29 9
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Universal Credit: Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs. Considering the general public bailed out the banking industry in 2008, a top of £20 is nothing. But it makes so much difference to people who are struggling to pay for the basics like food and heating. There are over 2,000 food banks in the UK
87
09/02/2021 12:47:51 9 7
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They took a share in the banks and sold most at a profit. Although they still own a large part of RBS well over a Decade later. The final bill is not likely to be too high.
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10/02/2021 09:53:58 1 1
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There are around 2,000 food banks in Germany as well - if you give stuff away for free don't be surprised if more and more people want some.
43
09/02/2021 12:16:17 3 7
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Ask 95% of people on benefits how many jobs they have applied for today. Oh that old chestnut.
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09/02/2021 12:28:45 8 0
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A large proportion who receive benefits are already in work, but have wages so low they have to receive a subsidy to enable them to live with the high cost of living in the UK.

Those who are not in work are regularly assessed by the DWP and if found not to be doing enough to find work will be sanctioned by having benefits removed.

It's a miserable existence and not a 'lifestyle choice'.
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09/02/2021 12:34:56 4 0
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It's 12:32, and I've applied for five so far. Not that it's any of your business. I expect you're sitting at home waiting for your breadwinner hubby to pitch up so that you can order a takeaway. Must be hard being comfortable yet unable to contain all that bitterness?
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09/02/2021 13:01:39 1 0
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You'll find that 70% of claimants are actually working, its just their employers pay so little they need the extra. But just spew bile without checking anything yourself - its much easier isn't? Does it make you feel good?
If employers stopped pushing down wages there wouldn't be the need, but all they care about is profit and expect the tax payer to help with that.
Back to your Daily Mail please
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The older people on here who have homes, final salary pensions, triple lock state pensions, free public transport, a whole range of other state benefits appal me when they would begrudge those who have so much less & who are unlikely to ever has as much just a small increase in the level of social assistance they receive. There are children living in poverty. You lot would bring back workhouses!
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09/02/2021 12:17:11 3 7
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I do wonder whether some kind of institutional welfare service might represent a better balance of fairness for the taxpayer. Obviously, without the more grotesque abuses highlighted by Dickens. And with separate-sex accommodation, we could stop this problem of welfare claimants having children that they can't afford.
I think you've hit on something here.
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09/02/2021 12:23:53 5 1
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Are you for real or just a troll?
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09/02/2021 12:09:19 12 9
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I like the picture at top of this article, women with new jeans and her car keys. Is a car not a luxury many in work cannot afford a car but on benefits its your god given right.
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09/02/2021 12:13:32 9 5
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Try living on benefits and see if you can afford to run a car.

Pro tip: you can't.
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09/02/2021 12:05:31 11 9
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I was on benefits 20 years ago my benefits were reduced forcing me into work if they would of gone up i would probably of never of worked.
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09/02/2021 12:14:21 5 1
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Your shortcomings are no reason to deny help to people of superior character.
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09/02/2021 12:12:20 11 12
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The older people on here who have homes, final salary pensions, triple lock state pensions, free public transport, a whole range of other state benefits appal me when they would begrudge those who have so much less & who are unlikely to ever has as much just a small increase in the level of social assistance they receive. There are children living in poverty. You lot would bring back workhouses!
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09/02/2021 12:15:20 4 2
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Of course they would: they're devout Tories.

And then they're unhappy at being called the Nasty Party, which they are.
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09/02/2021 12:03:24 4 3
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As is clear from the picture of the lady above this article. :-)
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09/02/2021 12:19:07 1 5
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It's a shame that in 2021 we even need a benefits system? What happen to the sanctuary or marriage or even a committed relationship if you are against "marriage"?

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09/02/2021 12:19:59 10 8
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Looks like the tattoo shops will be busy soon.
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09/02/2021 12:54:12 3 2
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HATE and HATE on your knuckles is it Louise?
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09/02/2021 12:21:59 15 10
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Another thing me and my kids will have to pay for - can I have a pay rise from the Government haven't had one this year or last because of COVID
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09/02/2021 12:31:53 15 3
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Oh dear, what a shame, poor you, never mind. Some of us haven't even been able to get a job because of Covid. Still, if it makes you feel better to moan about some desperate people being given a lifeline, then at least it makes you feel better. What a shame our society has become such a mealy-mouthed, resentful, envious, selfish one...
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09/02/2021 12:23:31 2 2
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Just keep on borrowing Rishi.
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09/02/2021 12:17:11 3 7
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I do wonder whether some kind of institutional welfare service might represent a better balance of fairness for the taxpayer. Obviously, without the more grotesque abuses highlighted by Dickens. And with separate-sex accommodation, we could stop this problem of welfare claimants having children that they can't afford.
I think you've hit on something here.
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09/02/2021 12:23:53 5 1
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Are you for real or just a troll?
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09/02/2021 12:36:22 4 0
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Unfortunately this one is for real - I've seen some of its posts before, and they beggar belief in the 21st century. Such a shame.
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09/02/2021 12:25:00 14 11
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Someone on benefits who plays the whole system can gather in up to around £25k per year with no tax or NI. A Salary of over £30k is needed to have that take home pay...
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09/02/2021 12:26:13 9 6
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Evidence?

None, as usual.
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09/02/2021 12:29:08 7 3
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You seem convinced that everyone who relies on benefits is 'playing' the system! If you could get your head out of the Daily Mail for just a moment, you'd realise that there are 1,000s of families with both parents working who still rely on UC in-work beneits and food banks. There are some cheats, obviously, but nothing like what your sort believe.
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09/02/2021 13:26:49 1 1
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The household benefit cap is £20,000 a year, £23,000 in greater London. So even extreme examples, larger households with high rents the entire household combined do not get £25,000 in benefits if they are claiming due to unemployment.
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09/02/2021 12:25:34 4 2
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There have been some progressive suggestions to provide this as a one off upfront lump sum due to the benefits this would have towards debt relief for the poorest. Addressing the old saying that it is expensive to be poor.

The second benefit would a stimulus effect to the economy from the downstream spending - either directly or indirectly through repaid loans freeing up capital to lenders.
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09/02/2021 12:05:16 3 7
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Not sure about whether this is good policy but I'm sure many in the low-income group "need" it.

On UK finances, state pensions. Are they not more generous than ever? On top of winter fuel payments, rent (if applicable) being paid, council tax being paid (if applicable).

30 years ago the state pension was perhaps woefully low- now after many years of the triple lock, time to take a 2nd look?
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09/02/2021 12:26:00 4 0
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You have not researched the triple lock. Most pensioners received an additional £3.00 per week last year, somewhat less than £20.00 per week. Winter fuel allowance is £200 per annum, free bus travel is only relevant if such a service exists. Anyone receiving a full State Pension does not qualify for rental and Council Tax funding.
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09/02/2021 12:36:51 0 0
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No need to research it, I know it's designed for pensions to never be devalued in real terms due to inflation

Not comparing £3/£20 here

Winter fuel at £200 pays a majority of additional heating over Winter

Last I looked RE: rent/council it typically applied to people earning under £18K, and the state pension certainly isn't more than £18K. You might be confusing it with those who have savings
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09/02/2021 19:18:55 0 0
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housing benefit & council tax reduction are still available for pensioners & if their only income is SRP then they could get both depending on capital. Single pensioner needs £175.20/week, if they get AA / DLA MRC/HRC/ PIP DL & are alone then they get another £66.95/week on top of that and would still get full HB & CTR.
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09/02/2021 12:25:00 14 11
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Someone on benefits who plays the whole system can gather in up to around £25k per year with no tax or NI. A Salary of over £30k is needed to have that take home pay...
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09/02/2021 12:26:13 9 6
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Evidence?

None, as usual.
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09/02/2021 12:30:07 2 6
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Look out your window
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09/02/2021 12:28:29 13 7
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If you haven’t a job and you are sitting here posting who’s fault is it you haven’t a job.
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09/02/2021 12:32:14 6 1
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A bit harsh as I suggest the people in the main who receive UC wouldn't know this page existing - the pool of s***e in the UK used to be ankle height we're now struggling through at knee height as a minimum - DELIVEROO for KFC and McDonalds being the icing on the cake for oh so many in the UK is a disgrace
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09/02/2021 12:37:30 6 1
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Agree but many are forced as there is not enough jobs. Thanks to Covid and Brexit.
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09/02/2021 12:16:17 3 7
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Ask 95% of people on benefits how many jobs they have applied for today. Oh that old chestnut.
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09/02/2021 12:28:45 8 0
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A large proportion who receive benefits are already in work, but have wages so low they have to receive a subsidy to enable them to live with the high cost of living in the UK.

Those who are not in work are regularly assessed by the DWP and if found not to be doing enough to find work will be sanctioned by having benefits removed.

It's a miserable existence and not a 'lifestyle choice'.
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09/02/2021 12:26:13 9 6
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Evidence?

None, as usual.
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09/02/2021 12:30:07 2 6
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Look out your window
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09/02/2021 12:33:27 4 2
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Nice middle-class suburban housing.

Look into your soul.
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09/02/2021 12:12:20 11 12
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The older people on here who have homes, final salary pensions, triple lock state pensions, free public transport, a whole range of other state benefits appal me when they would begrudge those who have so much less & who are unlikely to ever has as much just a small increase in the level of social assistance they receive. There are children living in poverty. You lot would bring back workhouses!
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09/02/2021 12:31:01 6 1
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As one of those people falling into the category to which you refer, I agree with you completely. Times are really hard for a lot of those younger than us. All our working lives we had uninterrupted employment and housing costs compared to today as a % of income was considerably lower. They are in a catch 22 situation. They have to pay very high rent and therefore unable to save for a mortgage.
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09/02/2021 12:28:29 13 7
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If you haven’t a job and you are sitting here posting who’s fault is it you haven’t a job.
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09/02/2021 12:32:14 6 1
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A bit harsh as I suggest the people in the main who receive UC wouldn't know this page existing - the pool of s***e in the UK used to be ankle height we're now struggling through at knee height as a minimum - DELIVEROO for KFC and McDonalds being the icing on the cake for oh so many in the UK is a disgrace
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09/02/2021 12:25:00 14 11
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Someone on benefits who plays the whole system can gather in up to around £25k per year with no tax or NI. A Salary of over £30k is needed to have that take home pay...
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09/02/2021 12:29:08 7 3
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You seem convinced that everyone who relies on benefits is 'playing' the system! If you could get your head out of the Daily Mail for just a moment, you'd realise that there are 1,000s of families with both parents working who still rely on UC in-work beneits and food banks. There are some cheats, obviously, but nothing like what your sort believe.
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09/02/2021 12:33:35 20 5
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I not sure why some people are whingeing about a few extra pounds for the poor, many of whom are in work but paid so little it is difficult for them to exist with the high UK cost of living.

These people will also spend whatever they receive back into the economy (rather than salt it away in asset values) and thus help the problem of deficient demand in the UK economy.
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09/02/2021 12:34:27 15 4
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20 quid doesn't seem a lot when our esteemed Lords get £400 a day tax free in their arse pocket for turning up , having a nap and leaving
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10/02/2021 11:17:10 0 0
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£1,000 per year covid bonus for doing nothing? Who else got that sort of "pay" rise last year?
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09/02/2021 12:31:48 10 4
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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/what-do-the-latest-food-bank-statistics-tell-us/

In November 2019 the Trussell Trust published State of Hunger, the largest research project into food bank use in the UK to date.

"94% of users were ‘facing real destitution,’ unable to buy essentials to stay warm, dry, clean and fed."

Delete as many comments as you like, you can't delete the facts.
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09/02/2021 12:21:59 15 10
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Another thing me and my kids will have to pay for - can I have a pay rise from the Government haven't had one this year or last because of COVID
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09/02/2021 12:31:53 15 3
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Oh dear, what a shame, poor you, never mind. Some of us haven't even been able to get a job because of Covid. Still, if it makes you feel better to moan about some desperate people being given a lifeline, then at least it makes you feel better. What a shame our society has become such a mealy-mouthed, resentful, envious, selfish one...
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09/02/2021 13:11:32 3 1
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Well said
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09/02/2021 12:35:30 2 1
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Never received it.
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09/02/2021 12:26:00 4 0
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You have not researched the triple lock. Most pensioners received an additional £3.00 per week last year, somewhat less than £20.00 per week. Winter fuel allowance is £200 per annum, free bus travel is only relevant if such a service exists. Anyone receiving a full State Pension does not qualify for rental and Council Tax funding.
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09/02/2021 12:36:51 0 0
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No need to research it, I know it's designed for pensions to never be devalued in real terms due to inflation

Not comparing £3/£20 here

Winter fuel at £200 pays a majority of additional heating over Winter

Last I looked RE: rent/council it typically applied to people earning under £18K, and the state pension certainly isn't more than £18K. You might be confusing it with those who have savings
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09/02/2021 12:37:12 9 6
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I work for NHS and would love to get another £1k per year instead of paying taxes so universal credit can get it !!
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09/02/2021 12:42:34 6 4
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you work in the protected Employment class-Millions now live in the Destitution class and are thrown on the scrap heap or in most cases are WORKING and earning so little they qualify. This poverty brings the NHS more and more Customers-suffering ill health in earlier life. Get some life experience before attacking those suffering the most as the Govt hopes human nature will get you to do for it.
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09/02/2021 12:28:29 13 7
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If you haven’t a job and you are sitting here posting who’s fault is it you haven’t a job.
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09/02/2021 12:37:30 6 1
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Agree but many are forced as there is not enough jobs. Thanks to Covid and Brexit.
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09/02/2021 12:33:03 7 7
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On my Local BBC news yesterday a women with 5 kids under 12 was showing how delighted she was with all the free food parcels she was receiving. Says it all really.
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09/02/2021 12:44:13 8 5
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You mean she was desperately grateful at receiving charity to feed her children!

Some might say that is a disgrace in this day and age.

These children are our future, we need them to grow up healthy and motivated. And with our demographic imbalance (an ageing population with a low birth rate) we should be grateful somebody is having children.
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09/02/2021 12:41:18 3 0
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It says it all about you, certainly.
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09/02/2021 12:30:07 2 6
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Look out your window
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09/02/2021 12:33:27 4 2
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Nice middle-class suburban housing.

Look into your soul.
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09/02/2021 12:51:08 1 3
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Ex council house actually
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09/02/2021 12:39:09 10 5
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A one person living there only gets£773 a month. Pensions cost more than the Benefit System a fact.
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09/02/2021 14:07:24 3 3
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Shush now with your inconvenient truths, the gammonz don't like it
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10/02/2021 11:29:14 0 0
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Pensions are for people who have paid-in all their lives and are now retired and not realistically able to work, UC is a safety net for unemployed, not a career choice for the feckless and workshy unable to defer gratification and repeatedly procreating. Very different things.
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09/02/2021 12:39:30 20 9
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A high benefits bill needs to be seen for what it really is.

A failure by the Government to effectively manage the economy to produce a proper supply of productive and well paid jobs.

Decades of under-investment inhibited this aim and left the UK with among the lowest productivity in the developed World.

Spin about benefits being a 'lifestyle choice' enables the Regime to evade responsibility.
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09/02/2021 12:51:46 19 8
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Indeed, the right wing nutters never admit that the biggest chunk of the Welfare budget goes on State Pensions, sigh......
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09/02/2021 18:02:48 1 2
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Is your real name Jeremy corbyn? As you clearly have zero economic understanding.
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10/02/2021 11:16:22 0 0
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The UK's low productivity is also driven by the expansion of the reserve pool of labour suppressing wages and the persistent high net immigration of low-skill/low-pay workers - basically FOM.
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09/02/2021 12:34:43 18 7
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@Louise 12:16
"Ask 95% of people on benefits how many jobs they have applied for today. Oh that old chestnut."

It's 12:32, and I've applied for five so far. Not that it's any of your business. I expect you're sitting at home waiting for your breadwinner hubby to pitch up so that you can order a takeaway. Must be hard being comfortable yet unable to contain all that bitterness?
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09/02/2021 12:48:00 8 7
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Good on you hope you land yourself a job. I am not being bitter you sound like one of the few so good luck. Not that comfortable.
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09/02/2021 12:16:17 3 7
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Ask 95% of people on benefits how many jobs they have applied for today. Oh that old chestnut.
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09/02/2021 12:34:56 4 0
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It's 12:32, and I've applied for five so far. Not that it's any of your business. I expect you're sitting at home waiting for your breadwinner hubby to pitch up so that you can order a takeaway. Must be hard being comfortable yet unable to contain all that bitterness?
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09/02/2021 12:23:53 5 1
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Are you for real or just a troll?
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09/02/2021 12:36:22 4 0
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Unfortunately this one is for real - I've seen some of its posts before, and they beggar belief in the 21st century. Such a shame.
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10/02/2021 13:22:52 0 0
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I don't see why, clearly some people are such incapables that they can never look after themselves nor feed their own burgeoning brood, finding some way to keep them fed and watered but at minimal cost to the rest of society seems entirely sensible.
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09/02/2021 12:10:49 3 0
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Are people who were out of work before the pandemic also receiving this £20?
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09/02/2021 12:36:53 1 0
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No we aren't.
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09/02/2021 12:37:12 9 6
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I work for NHS and would love to get another £1k per year instead of paying taxes so universal credit can get it !!
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09/02/2021 12:42:34 6 4
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you work in the protected Employment class-Millions now live in the Destitution class and are thrown on the scrap heap or in most cases are WORKING and earning so little they qualify. This poverty brings the NHS more and more Customers-suffering ill health in earlier life. Get some life experience before attacking those suffering the most as the Govt hopes human nature will get you to do for it.
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09/02/2021 12:57:27 2 0
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"This poverty brings the NHS more and more Customers-suffering ill health in earlier life"

Indeed.

It never ceases to amaze me that there is so little awareness of the social costs of poverty.

Poor health, crime, the writing off of people who may prove to have great talent and ability if given the right opportunities.

The long term costs are immense for us all!
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09/02/2021 12:05:31 11 9
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I was on benefits 20 years ago my benefits were reduced forcing me into work if they would of gone up i would probably of never of worked.
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09/02/2021 12:37:50 5 0
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You shouldn't judge everyone by your own poor standards, Louise. There are many good people out there too you know.
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09/02/2021 12:03:24 4 3
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As is clear from the picture of the lady above this article. :-)
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09/02/2021 12:38:00 0 0
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What is it about you Tories, that you can not bear to face facts?

The BBC is Tory from end to end: hence the photo.
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09/02/2021 12:33:03 7 7
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On my Local BBC news yesterday a women with 5 kids under 12 was showing how delighted she was with all the free food parcels she was receiving. Says it all really.
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09/02/2021 12:44:13 8 5
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You mean she was desperately grateful at receiving charity to feed her children!

Some might say that is a disgrace in this day and age.

These children are our future, we need them to grow up healthy and motivated. And with our demographic imbalance (an ageing population with a low birth rate) we should be grateful somebody is having children.
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09/02/2021 14:48:49 0 0
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I don't entirely agree with your last point, that we need people to have more children. As we belatedly wake up to the climate and environmental catastrophe caused by human overpopulation, we really ought to be trying to reduce population, and have policies that reward people for having fewer children. Everything else is secondary, if it creates challenges for pensions systems, then so be it.
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09/02/2021 11:33:54 65 40
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It's easy to be generous with other peoples money.

It does not make sense that suddenly UC now needs to be £1000 a year higher than it was a year ago.
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09/02/2021 12:47:04 35 34
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its a lot less than Furlough people got ...

And home schooling and working has massively increased gas and electricity bills..

There is the reason .. and the sense - hope you get it ....

Get angry at yourself for not having the correct level of empathy skill. I used to be like you - easily pointed at the poor. Now I am educated.
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09/02/2021 13:12:39 6 13
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But why a blanket increase in UC? The previously unemployed would have seen no change in circumstances so why need an increase?

The newly unemployed should have a buffer (redundancy payment or taken some personal responsibility & built a cash cushion (you can have £16k in the bank & still claim UC))
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09/02/2021 17:59:16 1 0
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People on furlough are normally in work.
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09/02/2021 12:14:56 29 9
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Universal Credit: Extend £20 benefit top-up for a year, say MPs. Considering the general public bailed out the banking industry in 2008, a top of £20 is nothing. But it makes so much difference to people who are struggling to pay for the basics like food and heating. There are over 2,000 food banks in the UK
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09/02/2021 12:47:51 9 7
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They took a share in the banks and sold most at a profit. Although they still own a large part of RBS well over a Decade later. The final bill is not likely to be too high.
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09/02/2021 13:58:33 8 2
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What about the 10 years of Tory austerity? NHS, police, councils all public services are still suffering with massive cost cutting. It hit the poorest people in the UK
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09/02/2021 15:57:56 1 1
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No profit from funding the banks, Osbourne sold out at a loss, remaining shares below strike price as we speak so wouldn't make sense to sell any more. Probably a good time to buy though. Mind you lots of people got some nice handouts from compensation schemes set up by Cameroon which I believe was a political swipe at the banking sector for showing up politicians incompetence.
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10/02/2021 07:35:38 1 0
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If this is true can Tories finally end their "Labour bankrupted the nation by bailing out the banks"
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09/02/2021 12:39:26 4 8
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Wow..there’s a surprise...Labour MP chair asking for more taxpayers money.....they are coming up with great new ideas!

Do Labour have anything different at all to offer.....they make the same policy calls year after year regardless of how things change in the country. There tax and spend answers to everything turned a thriving economy in the late 1990’s into a bankrupt economy in just 11 years.
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09/02/2021 12:53:50 6 1
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What abouttheMoney the Tories squandered on useless PPE
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09/02/2021 13:07:37 3 0
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HAVE YOU NOT SEEN the Tory Spend and Tax of the last 11 years ... with it going into all time records in 2021 ..

The Tories could not run a drinking festival in a brewery !

BOE Printer has never needed so much ink .. yet properly run countries like Norway are a trillion in the black as Tories take us to £2.5 tn in the red , whilst making the few ever richer from tax payers promisary notes.
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09/02/2021 12:03:24 4 3
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As is clear from the picture of the lady above this article. :-)
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09/02/2021 12:39:50 10 5
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To go from the majority of comments and votes on here, it seems clear that the UK is no longer a Christian nation.
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09/02/2021 13:03:44 6 2
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yes we are - at least the values hold strong in the UK ...

There are more of us than them ... the elite rely on the ill educated and ignorant comfortable to blame the rising tide of poverty on those suffering it.

Jesus would definately be turning over the money tables in the temple today ..
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09/02/2021 12:34:43 18 7
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@Louise 12:16
"Ask 95% of people on benefits how many jobs they have applied for today. Oh that old chestnut."

It's 12:32, and I've applied for five so far. Not that it's any of your business. I expect you're sitting at home waiting for your breadwinner hubby to pitch up so that you can order a takeaway. Must be hard being comfortable yet unable to contain all that bitterness?
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09/02/2021 12:48:00 8 7
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Good on you hope you land yourself a job. I am not being bitter you sound like one of the few so good luck. Not that comfortable.
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09/02/2021 12:33:03 7 7
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On my Local BBC news yesterday a women with 5 kids under 12 was showing how delighted she was with all the free food parcels she was receiving. Says it all really.
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09/02/2021 12:41:18 3 0
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It says it all about you, certainly.
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09/02/2021 11:33:54 65 40
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It's easy to be generous with other peoples money.

It does not make sense that suddenly UC now needs to be £1000 a year higher than it was a year ago.
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09/02/2021 12:49:52 15 12
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every penny of UC comes back into the Economy. These people are the only true participants in the economy - They give 100% and take 0% from the Economy. They have little or no Pension tax relief , little or no private pension.

Does even 20% of QE come into the UK economy ?
BOE printer should not only be used to inlfate (shore up) share prices and home assets ... the well off cant have it all.
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09/02/2021 13:01:37 15 5
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Indeed.

Good to see someone has seen the truth of the UK economy.

Policies of asset inflation only act well as an electoral bribe to those who benefit from them.

In the long term it leads to stagnation and collapse!
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09/02/2021 15:09:46 8 4
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Do you actually believe that?

How can you claim people on benefits give 100% to the economy and take nothing? You do realise their benefits come from the taxes of working people?

You cannot have an economy without people generating wealth - gross domestic product. What do you think pays for the NHS, education, benefits, pensions, defence, foreign aid etc.
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09/02/2021 12:44:20 8 4
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https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/tory-donors-resorting-to-stealing-childrens-lunch-money/

"Ineffective procurement processes have led to the outsourcing of £10.5bn contracts without competitive tender, to companies owned by Conservative Party donors and the relatives of MPs"
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09/02/2021 13:55:38 0 2
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Good.
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09/02/2021 12:33:27 4 2
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Nice middle-class suburban housing.

Look into your soul.
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09/02/2021 12:51:08 1 3
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Ex council house actually
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09/02/2021 12:39:30 20 9
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A high benefits bill needs to be seen for what it really is.

A failure by the Government to effectively manage the economy to produce a proper supply of productive and well paid jobs.

Decades of under-investment inhibited this aim and left the UK with among the lowest productivity in the developed World.

Spin about benefits being a 'lifestyle choice' enables the Regime to evade responsibility.
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09/02/2021 12:51:46 19 8
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Indeed, the right wing nutters never admit that the biggest chunk of the Welfare budget goes on State Pensions, sigh......
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09/02/2021 13:12:19 7 2
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And supporting people in work or to pay private landlords
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09/02/2021 11:19:46 59 34
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The more you give people in life the more they want. Giving higher benefits defeats the UC system which was designed to get people back in to work.
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09/02/2021 12:53:48 5 2
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the job centre is about 10 million jobs short of returning to its bullying of the weak charter.
They may as well now call it Universal Basic Income-as that is what they have made it with Neo Lib collpase of UK/West Economies.
The Tories will still bring in millions of migrants to lower wages still further so more people need UBI (sorry UC its old name).
ps -for every extra £1 earned UC takes 67%.
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09/02/2021 14:02:41 4 2
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Indeed let's introduce a marginal tax rate of 67% for income tax above £100k, see the piggies squeal then....
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09/02/2021 12:39:26 4 8
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Wow..there’s a surprise...Labour MP chair asking for more taxpayers money.....they are coming up with great new ideas!

Do Labour have anything different at all to offer.....they make the same policy calls year after year regardless of how things change in the country. There tax and spend answers to everything turned a thriving economy in the late 1990’s into a bankrupt economy in just 11 years.
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09/02/2021 12:53:50 6 1
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What abouttheMoney the Tories squandered on useless PPE
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09/02/2021 12:49:30 7 4
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Re: food parcels. Tory shills happy to see the poor being exploited have no problem with Tory corruption. Strange, isn't it?

Chartwell UK, is part of Compass Group plc, a multinational food service provider based in Chertsey, Surrey. Compass Group plc’s chairperson up until 1 December 2020, Paul Walsh, is a Conservative Party donor who sat on David Cameron’s business advisory group
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09/02/2021 12:19:59 10 8
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Looks like the tattoo shops will be busy soon.
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09/02/2021 12:54:12 3 2
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HATE and HATE on your knuckles is it Louise?