Spieth showing shades of return to top
08/02/2021 | sport | golf | 185
With Dustin Johnson on a relentless run, Iain Carter assesses the challenge of former world number ones Jordan Spieth, Justin Rose and Brooks Koepka, who are all returning to form.
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08/02/2021 15:23:34 1 1
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DJ is playing out of his skin at the moment. It appears that his final day nerves are long a thing of the past.

Good to see Koepka back to winning ways. The chip in, while a great shot, was a little fortunate to actually go in. Great viewing though.
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08/02/2021 17:32:43 1 1
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I could not agree more about the chip. While the players practice chipping constantly you have the ask yourself now many would he hole out of 100 attempts. The answer is probably zero which tells you everything. You do need a certain amount of luck to be successful in Golf. That chip took the tournament away from the rest of the field.
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08/02/2021 15:24:18 4 3
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Well done to Spieth and Rose, two players who have struggled recently but made (on different continents) great progress.

I must add that both these desert courses lacked any variety at all. It was like watching the same type of golf, with no real penalty from going off line, all day long (given the time zone difference). It made for a rather boring product.
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08/02/2021 15:54:57 1 1
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And Saudi Arabia has enough sand to make the wasteland proper massive bunkers, where they could only take a short iron to get back on the fairway rather than reach the green!
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08/02/2021 15:29:05 11 2
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For so many golfers the game is more about beating demons rather than opposition. Me too!
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08/02/2021 15:37:09 10 1
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Sorry but Schauffele blew it at the weekend, Speith had his chances too,
Well played BK
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08/02/2021 15:45:35 5 5
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Schauffele is a choker , his wedge play lets him down. He's had numerous chances to win and constantly blew it and yesterday's back 9 was poor
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08/02/2021 15:41:00 2 4
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Nice to see Rose coming back. Another repeat of this 2017 modern version of the 'duel in the sun' at this years Masters, would be just the ticket.

With him winning this time!!
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08/02/2021 15:42:38 3 1
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I think this foray into the top 5 for Speith is a long way off returning to where he was. I really hope to see him back in the mix, where he seemed to be at almost every Sunday in 14/15/16. His decline has been difficult to watch at times - and that's coming from a Rory fan! Having the likes of him Koepka, DJ, Xander, Rahm, Rory, JT etc having battle royales in 2021 will bring great entertainment.
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08/02/2021 15:42:53 3 1
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Spieth was last in shots gained off the tee. He was only in the game due to the course set up ( lack of trees, he played most of his second shots from the waste land) ..., his driver hooks and his iron block to the left ... I would love to see him back though
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08/02/2021 15:44:00 6 3
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I found Sunday an enjoyable day's golf with the two tournaments both boasting a strong leaderboard.

It was good to see Koepka looking back to something like his best and it will be interesting to see how Spieth's season develops from here.
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08/02/2021 15:58:04 2 6
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I could not agree more Leslie, and boy do I agree.

I have about 150 favourite players and these are definitely 2 of them.
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08/02/2021 15:37:09 10 1
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Sorry but Schauffele blew it at the weekend, Speith had his chances too,
Well played BK
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08/02/2021 15:45:35 5 5
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Schauffele is a choker , his wedge play lets him down. He's had numerous chances to win and constantly blew it and yesterday's back 9 was poor
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08/02/2021 15:52:29 1 2
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Perfect for Europe's chances in the Ryder cup then!
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08/02/2021 15:45:35 5 5
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Schauffele is a choker , his wedge play lets him down. He's had numerous chances to win and constantly blew it and yesterday's back 9 was poor
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08/02/2021 15:52:29 1 2
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Perfect for Europe's chances in the Ryder cup then!
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08/02/2021 15:24:18 4 3
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Well done to Spieth and Rose, two players who have struggled recently but made (on different continents) great progress.

I must add that both these desert courses lacked any variety at all. It was like watching the same type of golf, with no real penalty from going off line, all day long (given the time zone difference). It made for a rather boring product.
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08/02/2021 15:54:57 1 1
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And Saudi Arabia has enough sand to make the wasteland proper massive bunkers, where they could only take a short iron to get back on the fairway rather than reach the green!
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08/02/2021 15:56:09 9 2
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I don't think Spieth will be contesting the majors in 2021. unless he improves his driving significantly. He's got to re-learn dealing with the pressure on the run in and perhaps he can feature with the big boys in 2022. DJ is so in control - 2 majors for him this year.
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08/02/2021 21:33:23 1 2
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Maybe the Masters! I don’t think you can ever discount him there as he knows where he can miss it off the tee!
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08/02/2021 15:56:53 2 5
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4 time major winner Brooks Koepka shoots 65 to win the tournament.

4 times major winner " it " shoots 65 to climb away from 50th place and end up not on my leaderboard at any time.

That is the difference?

Watched Dustin Johnson too, all weekend, so calm and he is just awesome to watch.
12 rounds around there and his worst score is 68, and has 3 wins in his last 8 starts worldwide.
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08/02/2021 15:57:03 16 1
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Spieth was able to score and played the course well. However if that was a course that was in any way penal for being off line from the tee, he would have struggled once again. Not sure he is quite back yet.
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09/02/2021 07:16:44 0 3
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Solve the distance debate in one fell swoop: internal OOB strategically placed - stroke and distance penalty = 2 shots gone and the boomers must balance their long hitting with accuracy. Simple, cheap and protects the fans once they return.
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08/02/2021 15:57:20 9 6
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"i have a dream"-no beards,no baseball caps no logos on shirts.as gene sarazen said-there is too much money in golf
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08/02/2021 16:09:10 12 3
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and no spitting, no greens books; and have bunkers that are hazards!
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08/02/2021 16:18:41 4 2
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and no long putters and stroke penalties for slow play!
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08/02/2021 20:58:43 2 1
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Ah yes, beards and baseball caps - the sign of the wealthy man.
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LFM
08/02/2021 22:00:19 2 2
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You sound fun.
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09/02/2021 06:46:33 0 0
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Still can’t grow that beard, eh?
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08/02/2021 15:44:00 6 3
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I found Sunday an enjoyable day's golf with the two tournaments both boasting a strong leaderboard.

It was good to see Koepka looking back to something like his best and it will be interesting to see how Spieth's season develops from here.
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08/02/2021 15:58:04 2 6
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I could not agree more Leslie, and boy do I agree.

I have about 150 favourite players and these are definitely 2 of them.
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08/02/2021 15:59:11 2 4
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Now if there was a terrestrial tv channel to cover golf. Hmmmmmm......
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08/02/2021 16:00:22 16 14
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Johnson clearly the best golfer around at the moment. As for McIlroy - his performances 'reek of self importance'- to coin a phrase I saw recently.
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08/02/2021 16:09:04 9 13
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120 yards out and he cant get it to within 10 ft on a regular basis. So poor. Reeks of not working hard enough and as you say "self importance"
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08/02/2021 16:51:09 3 3
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Love it, very good and lets shoot a 64 when the pressure is off and it means nothing. Shut mouth and play golf instead!
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08/02/2021 16:00:22 16 14
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Johnson clearly the best golfer around at the moment. As for McIlroy - his performances 'reek of self importance'- to coin a phrase I saw recently.
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08/02/2021 16:09:04 9 13
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120 yards out and he cant get it to within 10 ft on a regular basis. So poor. Reeks of not working hard enough and as you say "self importance"
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08/02/2021 19:37:35 1 2
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Erm... none of them can? Go look at proximity stats from 120yds, pga average will be 30ft at least.
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gg
09/02/2021 00:05:54 1 0
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Your talking about the best golfer in the last decade voted by fellow pros, you pair of numptys lol
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08/02/2021 15:57:20 9 6
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"i have a dream"-no beards,no baseball caps no logos on shirts.as gene sarazen said-there is too much money in golf
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08/02/2021 16:09:10 12 3
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and no spitting, no greens books; and have bunkers that are hazards!
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08/02/2021 16:10:30 6 4
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I thought they were changing the rules to stop DeChambeau hitting it too far but he is not doing all the winning. So what are they going to do to stop DJ winning everything?

Just goes to show the game is not just about distance from the tee
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08/02/2021 16:25:10 5 2
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DJ is not exactly short off the tee though is he? i dont see the issue with the distance thing, there will be courses that suit a big hitter and courses that dont suit them, they can give all this all they like, most majors are won by the best putter with the most bottle that week, its the reason Tiger dominated the game for so long as he did.
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08/02/2021 16:18:20 2 7
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Amazed -to be reading about Winning Events
I was expecting to read instead of McIlroy great comeback after being 3 over after Holes 1 & 2 on Day 1
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08/02/2021 16:22:34 3 9
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It was the perfect start to a great weekend of golf. I fell off my chair laughing.
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08/02/2021 15:57:20 9 6
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"i have a dream"-no beards,no baseball caps no logos on shirts.as gene sarazen said-there is too much money in golf
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08/02/2021 16:18:41 4 2
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and no long putters and stroke penalties for slow play!
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08/02/2021 16:18:20 2 7
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Amazed -to be reading about Winning Events
I was expecting to read instead of McIlroy great comeback after being 3 over after Holes 1 & 2 on Day 1
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08/02/2021 16:22:34 3 9
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It was the perfect start to a great weekend of golf. I fell off my chair laughing.
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08/02/2021 16:10:30 6 4
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I thought they were changing the rules to stop DeChambeau hitting it too far but he is not doing all the winning. So what are they going to do to stop DJ winning everything?

Just goes to show the game is not just about distance from the tee
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08/02/2021 16:25:10 5 2
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DJ is not exactly short off the tee though is he? i dont see the issue with the distance thing, there will be courses that suit a big hitter and courses that dont suit them, they can give all this all they like, most majors are won by the best putter with the most bottle that week, its the reason Tiger dominated the game for so long as he did.
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08/02/2021 18:32:26 0 1
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No he isn't short off the tee but neither was he the best putter over the weekend either. He is very consistent though and gives himself plenty of chances with his iron and wedge play.

DeChambeau seems obsessed with launch and speed off the tee but really should focus on other parts of his game.
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08/02/2021 19:35:08 2 1
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Tiger was so successful because of his iron approach play. It's been statistically proven.
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08/02/2021 16:43:16 1 16
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All 4 of these people are past it, with gamestyles that are a relic from a bygone era

Bryson is the new face of golf, and the archetype of what a golfer should look like and play like. Get used to it
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08/02/2021 16:47:55 2 1
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Nonsense, they’re not relics, they don’t inhabit a bygone era of the game and as we are all individuals, no surprise to find that they are physically and mentally different people and players.
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08/02/2021 18:03:35 0 3
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Here here. Bryson will change golf just like Tiger did two decades ago.

The old Toffs won't like the feathers being ruffled like this, but it's coming.
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08/02/2021 16:43:16 1 16
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All 4 of these people are past it, with gamestyles that are a relic from a bygone era

Bryson is the new face of golf, and the archetype of what a golfer should look like and play like. Get used to it
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08/02/2021 16:47:55 2 1
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Nonsense, they’re not relics, they don’t inhabit a bygone era of the game and as we are all individuals, no surprise to find that they are physically and mentally different people and players.
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08/02/2021 16:48:42 16 5
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Spieth, dead last in driving accuracy. How could anyone think that shows any improvement from his performances over the past few years?

The biggest difference from missing the cut at Torrey Pines last week? There is simply very little penalty for wild tee shots at TPC Scottsdale.

However two things were like the old Spieth - large slices of good luck and one streaky day with the putter.
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bob
08/02/2021 16:56:11 6 9
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So true, Spieth won The Open at Birkdale bouncing the ball back in play of spectators heads for 4 days!
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08/02/2021 18:04:37 3 1
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Yes Scottsdale is more forgiving but remember Spieth lead the field in ball striking with his approach play. The no 1 requirement needed there.
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08/02/2021 18:40:34 0 3
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Some days Rory putts like an amateur. I know a few scratch golfers who are better putters than Rory when he putts like he did on Saturday. DJ on Sunday was shocking just shows how good his long game is
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08/02/2021 21:28:56 1 2
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Spieths iron play is sublime and his 30-40 yards pitches are unrivalled! Seems there’s quite a few who still hold bitter feelings towards Spieth!
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09/02/2021 09:12:52 0 0
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Probably someone who thinks statistics and comparisons are just indicators? He certainly didn’t get any advantage being wild off the tee. So perhaps the rest of his game was better than a lot of others? He did persuade his ball into the hole with fewer shots than 95% of the field. Over the tournament that’s got to be a positive result for him.
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08/02/2021 16:00:22 16 14
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Johnson clearly the best golfer around at the moment. As for McIlroy - his performances 'reek of self importance'- to coin a phrase I saw recently.
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08/02/2021 16:51:09 3 3
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Love it, very good and lets shoot a 64 when the pressure is off and it means nothing. Shut mouth and play golf instead!
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08/02/2021 18:23:10 0 4
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McIlroy's never been a pressure folder, he won The Open and the US open on soft, benign courses.

Let's see him win one at Winged foot or Muirfield. Heck let's see him win one at Augusta!
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08/02/2021 16:48:42 16 5
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Spieth, dead last in driving accuracy. How could anyone think that shows any improvement from his performances over the past few years?

The biggest difference from missing the cut at Torrey Pines last week? There is simply very little penalty for wild tee shots at TPC Scottsdale.

However two things were like the old Spieth - large slices of good luck and one streaky day with the putter.
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bob
08/02/2021 16:56:11 6 9
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So true, Spieth won The Open at Birkdale bouncing the ball back in play of spectators heads for 4 days!
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JT
08/02/2021 17:09:05 6 2
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Good to see fans back in Arizona, does add to the Sport!
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gg
08/02/2021 17:25:36 6 7
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The big boys come out when the fans show up, even RM had a wee go on Sunday, can't wait until it's back to normal to see Rory roar.
who wants an asterisk beside his name anyhow
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08/02/2021 15:23:34 1 1
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DJ is playing out of his skin at the moment. It appears that his final day nerves are long a thing of the past.

Good to see Koepka back to winning ways. The chip in, while a great shot, was a little fortunate to actually go in. Great viewing though.
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08/02/2021 17:32:43 1 1
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I could not agree more about the chip. While the players practice chipping constantly you have the ask yourself now many would he hole out of 100 attempts. The answer is probably zero which tells you everything. You do need a certain amount of luck to be successful in Golf. That chip took the tournament away from the rest of the field.
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09/02/2021 10:54:25 0 0
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It's the Gary Player comment, "the more I practice, the luckier I get". The best players practice the most, hit it closest and so give luck a better chance to happen.
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08/02/2021 17:33:48 3 7
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Great to see Jordan & brooks coming back to form again! Johnson winning again is ominous. Where was the bottler?
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08/02/2021 17:44:49 2 8
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He played himself out of the tournament after 20 mins, and then under no pressure whatsoever, and with no chance of getting an asterisk , he played like I do when there is nothing to play for, in a T shirt and in the sunshine.
SKY were excellent because they ignored him too.
We got to watch an unbelieveable victory by Brooks whilst the usual crowd bottled it. Yes Finau, I am looking at you again
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gg
08/02/2021 19:37:36 1 2
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You would have to look at the Ireland rugby team, plenty of bottlers there ????????
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08/02/2021 20:11:12 3 3
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Not surprised to see that you are as clueless about golf as you are with Rugby!
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08/02/2021 17:41:52 10 1
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The players at both events are talented in the extreme. That said, I found both events were pretty boring. Both courses were reduced to pitch and putt courses. Drives & 9iron & wedges to most par 4’s with DJ hitting an 8iron second to par 5’s!! Time the big boys play with low compression balls.
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08/02/2021 18:37:26 2 5
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Fairways bunkers waste ground and rough is hardly a hazard at all. I think they should just have fairways then water . If you hit the ball offline. Now that would reward the straight hitters . It’s a pipe dream I know
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09/02/2021 10:56:21 0 0
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The pros play a different game from the rest of us now, even low handicap amateurs. Any par 4 less than 450 yards is considered a potentially driveable risk/reward hole. A decent par 5 for most club golfers.

The length of time DJ took to putt drove me nuts. The fact that he reaches greens so easily shouldn't mean he can take double the time he's allowed under the rules to putt.
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08/02/2021 17:33:48 3 7
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Great to see Jordan & brooks coming back to form again! Johnson winning again is ominous. Where was the bottler?
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08/02/2021 17:44:49 2 8
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He played himself out of the tournament after 20 mins, and then under no pressure whatsoever, and with no chance of getting an asterisk , he played like I do when there is nothing to play for, in a T shirt and in the sunshine.
SKY were excellent because they ignored him too.
We got to watch an unbelieveable victory by Brooks whilst the usual crowd bottled it. Yes Finau, I am looking at you again
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gg
08/02/2021 19:27:53 3 1
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I see your boy Victoria chickened out when he heard spectators would be there ????????
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08/02/2021 17:46:35 14 2
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The Saudi event is certainly the most soulless tournament I've seen on the European Tour for many a year, yet the big names turn up to play.
Why?
It reminds me of the Mrs Merton question - "What was it the first attracted you to....".
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08/02/2021 18:07:02 5 3
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all about the money
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08/02/2021 18:35:13 2 1
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100% it’s a shame the euro tour bosses don’t ban appearance fees for tournaments like they do in USA. If they kept the money and added it to the tour purse it would’ve been far greater than Phoenix open.
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09/02/2021 13:10:07 0 0
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The great Peter Allis used to say "It's the fear and the money that keeps them going" ??
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JS
08/02/2021 17:56:38 10 7
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Unbelievable, Iain Carter has written an article without mentioning the words Rory and McIlroy! Almost as impressive as Speith’s golf.
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08/02/2021 18:05:59 2 2
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I wondered that too. I had to re read it just to make sure.

Quite a shock.
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08/02/2021 18:07:18 0 4
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rory who?
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08/02/2021 18:14:46 1 4
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Read it a couple of times too, because I couldn't believe it either.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:23:37 3 2
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I know, it's a bloody disgrace not mentioning the best player in the world over the last decade tut tut. ????????
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09/02/2021 06:45:14 2 0
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You did though!
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08/02/2021 16:43:16 1 16
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All 4 of these people are past it, with gamestyles that are a relic from a bygone era

Bryson is the new face of golf, and the archetype of what a golfer should look like and play like. Get used to it
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08/02/2021 18:03:35 0 3
bbc
Here here. Bryson will change golf just like Tiger did two decades ago.

The old Toffs won't like the feathers being ruffled like this, but it's coming.
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08/02/2021 16:48:42 16 5
bbc
Spieth, dead last in driving accuracy. How could anyone think that shows any improvement from his performances over the past few years?

The biggest difference from missing the cut at Torrey Pines last week? There is simply very little penalty for wild tee shots at TPC Scottsdale.

However two things were like the old Spieth - large slices of good luck and one streaky day with the putter.
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08/02/2021 18:04:37 3 1
bbc
Yes Scottsdale is more forgiving but remember Spieth lead the field in ball striking with his approach play. The no 1 requirement needed there.
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08/02/2021 18:05:15 0 17
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In a year or two no one's gonna be talking about these guys. Because Bryson will have perfected his game and he'll be winning every tournament he enters, until other players start copying his approach.

In 10 years time, we'll be saying how Bryson changed the game forever.
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08/02/2021 18:08:25 1 8
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hes good for the game, adds some excitement
Maybe other players should get stronger or play better
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JS
08/02/2021 17:56:38 10 7
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Unbelievable, Iain Carter has written an article without mentioning the words Rory and McIlroy! Almost as impressive as Speith’s golf.
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08/02/2021 18:05:59 2 2
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I wondered that too. I had to re read it just to make sure.

Quite a shock.
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08/02/2021 17:46:35 14 2
bbc
The Saudi event is certainly the most soulless tournament I've seen on the European Tour for many a year, yet the big names turn up to play.
Why?
It reminds me of the Mrs Merton question - "What was it the first attracted you to....".
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08/02/2021 18:07:02 5 3
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all about the money
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08/02/2021 18:07:10 1 7
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I hope Spieth wins a few more majors.
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JS
08/02/2021 17:56:38 10 7
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Unbelievable, Iain Carter has written an article without mentioning the words Rory and McIlroy! Almost as impressive as Speith’s golf.
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08/02/2021 18:07:18 0 4
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rory who?
Some guy who won a few majors 7 years ago.

Also ditched his ex fiancee like a week before they were due to marry, with a 10 minute phone call.

You can tell alot about someone's character by the way they end a relationship.
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08/02/2021 18:05:15 0 17
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In a year or two no one's gonna be talking about these guys. Because Bryson will have perfected his game and he'll be winning every tournament he enters, until other players start copying his approach.

In 10 years time, we'll be saying how Bryson changed the game forever.
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08/02/2021 18:08:25 1 8
bbc
hes good for the game, adds some excitement
Maybe other players should get stronger or play better
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08/02/2021 18:19:53 0 6
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Indeed they should, instead of complaining about the nasty man who hits the ball too far for them.
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08/02/2021 18:12:44 0 2
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Jordan's name doesn't appear on the BBC leader board?
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08/02/2021 18:15:18 1 2
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Oops wrong leader board lol
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JS
08/02/2021 17:56:38 10 7
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Unbelievable, Iain Carter has written an article without mentioning the words Rory and McIlroy! Almost as impressive as Speith’s golf.
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08/02/2021 18:14:46 1 4
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Read it a couple of times too, because I couldn't believe it either.
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08/02/2021 18:12:44 0 2
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Jordan's name doesn't appear on the BBC leader board?
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08/02/2021 18:15:18 1 2
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Oops wrong leader board lol
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08/02/2021 18:08:25 1 8
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hes good for the game, adds some excitement
Maybe other players should get stronger or play better
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08/02/2021 18:19:53 0 6
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Indeed they should, instead of complaining about the nasty man who hits the ball too far for them.
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08/02/2021 18:07:18 0 4
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rory who?
Some guy who won a few majors 7 years ago.

Also ditched his ex fiancee like a week before they were due to marry, with a 10 minute phone call.

You can tell alot about someone's character by the way they end a relationship.
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08/02/2021 16:51:09 3 3
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Love it, very good and lets shoot a 64 when the pressure is off and it means nothing. Shut mouth and play golf instead!
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08/02/2021 18:23:10 0 4
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McIlroy's never been a pressure folder, he won The Open and the US open on soft, benign courses.

Let's see him win one at Winged foot or Muirfield. Heck let's see him win one at Augusta!
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gg
09/02/2021 00:08:44 1 0
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Yawn yawn yawn.Only the best player in the world over last decade. Join the numpty club mate ????????
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08/02/2021 18:25:04 3 1
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Not seen a player completely bottle it as XS did last night. thought he was going to be one of the really top players, but his last round was shocking when under pressure.
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08/02/2021 18:27:40 4 8
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Looking good for our Ryder Cup players.

Recent wins for Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Casey, Hatton, and now good form by Hovland, Pieters, Poulter, Rose, Garcia, Perez, Hoejgaard, Rahm.

That would be a team ready to take on the Americans? Proper golfers who would put the effort in.
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08/02/2021 18:52:17 1 2
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Agree 12 US players ranked in top 18 in the world. Europe only have 5. Points weighted too much on us tour and not enough on European tour. This year Stricker will have no rough whatsoever to help the yanks
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gg
08/02/2021 19:11:19 4 1
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Nothing wrong with dreaming lol, RM will be picked even on crutches ????????
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08/02/2021 20:08:43 4 1
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At least half of the names mentioned in your post will not make it.
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08/02/2021 16:25:10 5 2
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DJ is not exactly short off the tee though is he? i dont see the issue with the distance thing, there will be courses that suit a big hitter and courses that dont suit them, they can give all this all they like, most majors are won by the best putter with the most bottle that week, its the reason Tiger dominated the game for so long as he did.
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08/02/2021 18:32:26 0 1
bbc
No he isn't short off the tee but neither was he the best putter over the weekend either. He is very consistent though and gives himself plenty of chances with his iron and wedge play.

DeChambeau seems obsessed with launch and speed off the tee but really should focus on other parts of his game.
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08/02/2021 17:46:35 14 2
bbc
The Saudi event is certainly the most soulless tournament I've seen on the European Tour for many a year, yet the big names turn up to play.
Why?
It reminds me of the Mrs Merton question - "What was it the first attracted you to....".
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08/02/2021 18:35:13 2 1
bbc
100% it’s a shame the euro tour bosses don’t ban appearance fees for tournaments like they do in USA. If they kept the money and added it to the tour purse it would’ve been far greater than Phoenix open.
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08/02/2021 21:20:51 2 1
bbc
Very good point - as were Mark's and Pops'. I also found it soulless, but it's the European Tour, and there are plenty on the PGA Tour I find soulless as well. I didn't realise that appearance money was involved. Changes it for me.
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08/02/2021 22:23:51 0 3
bbc
It might have a quaint sponsor, Waste Management, but the Phoenix Open is one of the great old US tournaments, played on a great course, Scottsdale, with finishing holes that always excite. Its also the best attended event in golf with a raucous atmosphere to boot. One of my favourites.
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08/02/2021 17:41:52 10 1
bbc
The players at both events are talented in the extreme. That said, I found both events were pretty boring. Both courses were reduced to pitch and putt courses. Drives & 9iron & wedges to most par 4’s with DJ hitting an 8iron second to par 5’s!! Time the big boys play with low compression balls.
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08/02/2021 18:37:26 2 5
bbc
Fairways bunkers waste ground and rough is hardly a hazard at all. I think they should just have fairways then water . If you hit the ball offline. Now that would reward the straight hitters . It’s a pipe dream I know
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08/02/2021 19:21:47 0 2
bbc
Go and play Salgados in Portugal. Very limited rough, water down either side on a lot of holes. Personally, one of the worst golf courses I ever played.
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08/02/2021 18:39:01 0 3
bbc
Jordan Who?
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08/02/2021 16:48:42 16 5
bbc
Spieth, dead last in driving accuracy. How could anyone think that shows any improvement from his performances over the past few years?

The biggest difference from missing the cut at Torrey Pines last week? There is simply very little penalty for wild tee shots at TPC Scottsdale.

However two things were like the old Spieth - large slices of good luck and one streaky day with the putter.
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08/02/2021 18:40:34 0 3
bbc
Some days Rory putts like an amateur. I know a few scratch golfers who are better putters than Rory when he putts like he did on Saturday. DJ on Sunday was shocking just shows how good his long game is
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08/02/2021 21:32:06 2 1
bbc
Rory is like Mickleson on the greens, streaky putters and when they’re on it they hole everything but the media never mention it...
The moment he misses a few they’re all over it and the sheep buy it!
Rory put his ball in the desert a lot and he also missed greens with a wedge! That wasn’t his putters fault!
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08/02/2021 18:42:31 3 2
bbc
DJ is clearly the best player in the world and a good accurate driver, the USPGA and the R&A are in the process of curbing the long wayward drivers and if that doesn't work they'll no doubt dig propper bunkers instead of childrens play pits and put some six inch rough in there. If you can hit it 350 yds down the middle of the fairway good luck to you, if not you'll have to accept the consequences.
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08/02/2021 19:05:42 1 2
bbc
If the best player is winning, why change the set up
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08/02/2021 18:44:17 1 5
bbc
Different personalities but it strikes me that Brooks and Jordan both have a burning fire to win again and do what it takes to get there. Zander and Rory seem to lack this drive and despite undoubted talent do not deliver consistently enough. Answer, toughen up, grow some n-ts and start by being Mr Nasty and sacking caddies and getting tougher on course.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:09:15 2 2
bbc
Think about what you write next time as it doesn't add up LOL ????????
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08/02/2021 18:45:30 3 4
bbc
Here’s one for you Seve was 31 when he won his last major. Rory will turn 32 after this years Masters. I wonder what odds you’ll get on Rory finishing his career on 4 majors. He’s still Europe’s best player though . But not a patch on DJ at the moment.
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08/02/2021 18:58:39 3 3
bbc
Seve had back trouble in the latter part of his career. He never even made a single cut in a major beyond age 40. His career naturally had a short span.

Mcilroy will be around for years yet. He just seems to lack the drive to win more majors, as opposed to merely making heaps of money with his talent.
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08/02/2021 19:55:44 2 1
bbc
On the flipside, mickleson had won none by 31.......then won 5 after aged 34.
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08/02/2021 18:46:45 5 1
bbc
Brothers Johnson struggled with the lawns yesterday. If they can't get a decent read after all that time god help us. Does DJ really need to consult his book for a 6 footer ?
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08/02/2021 20:01:56 3 1
bbc
When he’s been pushing that “putting mat” so hard it’s obviously not as good as he claims????
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08/02/2021 18:51:24 1 4
bbc
Both Americans are undoubtedly , great players ...But So boring to watch !!!!
W
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08/02/2021 19:09:55 1 2
bbc
Can you name anyone that's watchable? Boring golfers playing boring golf on boring courses. It's that bad it somehow manages to make daytime TV almost watchable.
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08/02/2021 18:27:40 4 8
bbc
Looking good for our Ryder Cup players.

Recent wins for Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Casey, Hatton, and now good form by Hovland, Pieters, Poulter, Rose, Garcia, Perez, Hoejgaard, Rahm.

That would be a team ready to take on the Americans? Proper golfers who would put the effort in.
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08/02/2021 18:52:17 1 2
bbc
Agree 12 US players ranked in top 18 in the world. Europe only have 5. Points weighted too much on us tour and not enough on European tour. This year Stricker will have no rough whatsoever to help the yanks
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08/02/2021 18:45:30 3 4
bbc
Here’s one for you Seve was 31 when he won his last major. Rory will turn 32 after this years Masters. I wonder what odds you’ll get on Rory finishing his career on 4 majors. He’s still Europe’s best player though . But not a patch on DJ at the moment.
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08/02/2021 18:58:39 3 3
bbc
Seve had back trouble in the latter part of his career. He never even made a single cut in a major beyond age 40. His career naturally had a short span.

Mcilroy will be around for years yet. He just seems to lack the drive to win more majors, as opposed to merely making heaps of money with his talent.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:16:30 1 2
bbc
its his driving that's made him the money lol ????????
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08/02/2021 19:19:36 0 4
bbc
rory too laid back, no drive or ambition
Maybe too much money
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08/02/2021 19:22:35 0 3
bbc
wish we could make all tournaments interesting
People just witter on about the ryder cup as if everything revolves around it, Its one tournament
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08/02/2021 18:59:21 3 2
bbc
Why was Speith referred to as former World No. 1 but not Rose?
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08/02/2021 23:59:49 1 0
bbc
"Exactly two years ago Rose was officially the best player in the world."
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08/02/2021 18:42:31 3 2
bbc
DJ is clearly the best player in the world and a good accurate driver, the USPGA and the R&A are in the process of curbing the long wayward drivers and if that doesn't work they'll no doubt dig propper bunkers instead of childrens play pits and put some six inch rough in there. If you can hit it 350 yds down the middle of the fairway good luck to you, if not you'll have to accept the consequences.
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08/02/2021 19:05:42 1 2
bbc
If the best player is winning, why change the set up
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08/02/2021 19:07:37 2 2
bbc
Nice to see Speith contend,but don't think he would have been near the top on a more testing course.He is too wayward off the tee
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08/02/2021 18:44:17 1 5
bbc
Different personalities but it strikes me that Brooks and Jordan both have a burning fire to win again and do what it takes to get there. Zander and Rory seem to lack this drive and despite undoubted talent do not deliver consistently enough. Answer, toughen up, grow some n-ts and start by being Mr Nasty and sacking caddies and getting tougher on course.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:09:15 2 2
bbc
Think about what you write next time as it doesn't add up LOL ????????
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08/02/2021 18:51:24 1 4
bbc
Both Americans are undoubtedly , great players ...But So boring to watch !!!!
W
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08/02/2021 19:09:55 1 2
bbc
Can you name anyone that's watchable? Boring golfers playing boring golf on boring courses. It's that bad it somehow manages to make daytime TV almost watchable.
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08/02/2021 19:21:47 5 1
bbc
If it's so boring why do you watch it? Maybe you're just a troll who likes to 'gurn'
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08/02/2021 18:27:40 4 8
bbc
Looking good for our Ryder Cup players.

Recent wins for Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Casey, Hatton, and now good form by Hovland, Pieters, Poulter, Rose, Garcia, Perez, Hoejgaard, Rahm.

That would be a team ready to take on the Americans? Proper golfers who would put the effort in.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:11:19 4 1
bbc
Nothing wrong with dreaming lol, RM will be picked even on crutches ????????
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08/02/2021 20:06:10 2 3
bbc
Even after saying all those years ago something like “it’s an exhibition match which I’ve no interest in”..

Wonder if he still thinks the same now??????
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08/02/2021 19:12:02 7 3
bbc
So why are the terrestrial tv channels so reluctant to cover golf other than some, but not all, of the Majors plus Ryder or Solheim Cups. Surely even highlights packages would work? Must be more relevant than some of the ‘woke’ drivel the Beeb favours
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09/02/2021 15:10:24 0 1
bbc
Beeb obsessed with tennis. Especially Murray.
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08/02/2021 19:15:06 0 11
bbc
its become boring, and some tournaments need mixing up a bit.
Audiences will fall
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08/02/2021 19:15:38 9 4
bbc
Not sure Spieth is “back”. He sprayed it left right and center and got some pretty lucky breaks n bounces. Putter went hot on the Saturday, thought he was bang average and scrapping he was round for most of the time.

Nice to see Rose playing well.

Will Finau ever win again!?

Shouty spectators - still annoying
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08/02/2021 18:58:39 3 3
bbc
Seve had back trouble in the latter part of his career. He never even made a single cut in a major beyond age 40. His career naturally had a short span.

Mcilroy will be around for years yet. He just seems to lack the drive to win more majors, as opposed to merely making heaps of money with his talent.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:16:30 1 2
bbc
its his driving that's made him the money lol ????????
66
08/02/2021 18:58:39 3 3
bbc
Seve had back trouble in the latter part of his career. He never even made a single cut in a major beyond age 40. His career naturally had a short span.

Mcilroy will be around for years yet. He just seems to lack the drive to win more majors, as opposed to merely making heaps of money with his talent.
77
08/02/2021 19:19:36 0 4
bbc
rory too laid back, no drive or ambition
Maybe too much money
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gg
08/02/2021 19:30:44 1 2
bbc
It's drive and ambition that got him there LOL ????????
71
08/02/2021 19:09:55 1 2
bbc
Can you name anyone that's watchable? Boring golfers playing boring golf on boring courses. It's that bad it somehow manages to make daytime TV almost watchable.
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08/02/2021 19:21:47 5 1
bbc
If it's so boring why do you watch it? Maybe you're just a troll who likes to 'gurn'
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08/02/2021 19:33:56 0 4
bbc
Simple answer is I don't. Five minutes on Youtube is about my limit. If you and others happen to think today's coverage of current players on contrived courses is riveting stuff, then please don't invite me for dinner.
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08/02/2021 18:37:26 2 5
bbc
Fairways bunkers waste ground and rough is hardly a hazard at all. I think they should just have fairways then water . If you hit the ball offline. Now that would reward the straight hitters . It’s a pipe dream I know
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08/02/2021 19:21:47 0 2
bbc
Go and play Salgados in Portugal. Very limited rough, water down either side on a lot of holes. Personally, one of the worst golf courses I ever played.
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08/02/2021 21:12:41 0 1
bbc
Salgados is a nice course, just plenty of water and not for the casual hacker!
66
08/02/2021 18:58:39 3 3
bbc
Seve had back trouble in the latter part of his career. He never even made a single cut in a major beyond age 40. His career naturally had a short span.

Mcilroy will be around for years yet. He just seems to lack the drive to win more majors, as opposed to merely making heaps of money with his talent.
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08/02/2021 19:22:35 0 3
bbc
wish we could make all tournaments interesting
People just witter on about the ryder cup as if everything revolves around it, Its one tournament
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JS
08/02/2021 17:56:38 10 7
bbc
Unbelievable, Iain Carter has written an article without mentioning the words Rory and McIlroy! Almost as impressive as Speith’s golf.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:23:37 3 2
bbc
I know, it's a bloody disgrace not mentioning the best player in the world over the last decade tut tut. ????????
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09/02/2021 09:56:01 0 1
bbc
By what measures are you qualifying that statement or are we just gonna leave it as your unfactual opinion?
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08/02/2021 17:44:49 2 8
bbc
He played himself out of the tournament after 20 mins, and then under no pressure whatsoever, and with no chance of getting an asterisk , he played like I do when there is nothing to play for, in a T shirt and in the sunshine.
SKY were excellent because they ignored him too.
We got to watch an unbelieveable victory by Brooks whilst the usual crowd bottled it. Yes Finau, I am looking at you again
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gg
08/02/2021 19:27:53 3 1
bbc
I see your boy Victoria chickened out when he heard spectators would be there ????????
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08/02/2021 19:30:39 3 3
bbc
Crowds mean he’s more likely to get caught cheating. Again.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:27:53 3 1
bbc
I see your boy Victoria chickened out when he heard spectators would be there ????????
83
08/02/2021 19:30:39 3 3
bbc
Crowds mean he’s more likely to get caught cheating. Again.
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08/02/2021 19:19:36 0 4
bbc
rory too laid back, no drive or ambition
Maybe too much money
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gg
08/02/2021 19:30:44 1 2
bbc
It's drive and ambition that got him there LOL ????????
78
08/02/2021 19:21:47 5 1
bbc
If it's so boring why do you watch it? Maybe you're just a troll who likes to 'gurn'
85
08/02/2021 19:33:56 0 4
bbc
Simple answer is I don't. Five minutes on Youtube is about my limit. If you and others happen to think today's coverage of current players on contrived courses is riveting stuff, then please don't invite me for dinner.
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08/02/2021 16:25:10 5 2
bbc
DJ is not exactly short off the tee though is he? i dont see the issue with the distance thing, there will be courses that suit a big hitter and courses that dont suit them, they can give all this all they like, most majors are won by the best putter with the most bottle that week, its the reason Tiger dominated the game for so long as he did.
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08/02/2021 19:35:08 2 1
bbc
Tiger was so successful because of his iron approach play. It's been statistically proven.
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08/02/2021 19:36:01 2 2
bbc
Right, arfurpops, I’ll bite. You say the same thing on every golf HYS.
What do you propose so we can all discuss it?
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08/02/2021 20:10:34 3 1
bbc
I’ve asked him loads of times but he has no clear ideas or suggestions. If he didn’t enjoy the closing round yesterday then perhaps golf isn’t his sport. Actually, we already know it isn’t ... athletics is.
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09/02/2021 10:13:45 0 0
bbc
Timed play per shot perhaps
19
08/02/2021 16:09:04 9 13
bbc
120 yards out and he cant get it to within 10 ft on a regular basis. So poor. Reeks of not working hard enough and as you say "self importance"
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08/02/2021 19:37:35 1 2
bbc
Erm... none of them can? Go look at proximity stats from 120yds, pga average will be 30ft at least.
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08/02/2021 17:33:48 3 7
bbc
Great to see Jordan & brooks coming back to form again! Johnson winning again is ominous. Where was the bottler?
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gg
08/02/2021 19:37:36 1 2
bbc
You would have to look at the Ireland rugby team, plenty of bottlers there ????????
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08/02/2021 18:45:30 3 4
bbc
Here’s one for you Seve was 31 when he won his last major. Rory will turn 32 after this years Masters. I wonder what odds you’ll get on Rory finishing his career on 4 majors. He’s still Europe’s best player though . But not a patch on DJ at the moment.
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08/02/2021 19:55:44 2 1
bbc
On the flipside, mickleson had won none by 31.......then won 5 after aged 34.
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08/02/2021 19:58:49 3 3
bbc
“”Brilliant victory at Royal Birkdale””??

After taking an absolute age to play 1 shot from the practice ground????

I’ve played 18 holes quicker????
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08/02/2021 18:46:45 5 1
bbc
Brothers Johnson struggled with the lawns yesterday. If they can't get a decent read after all that time god help us. Does DJ really need to consult his book for a 6 footer ?
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08/02/2021 20:01:56 3 1
bbc
When he’s been pushing that “putting mat” so hard it’s obviously not as good as he claims????
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08/02/2021 20:03:40 4 2
bbc
I would give anything to hear Peter Alliss discussing this topic.
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gg
08/02/2021 19:11:19 4 1
bbc
Nothing wrong with dreaming lol, RM will be picked even on crutches ????????
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08/02/2021 20:06:10 2 3
bbc
Even after saying all those years ago something like “it’s an exhibition match which I’ve no interest in”..

Wonder if he still thinks the same now??????
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gg
08/02/2021 23:43:32 1 0
bbc
The throes of youth has no bounds when greatness is thrust upon mere mortals.????????
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08/02/2021 18:27:40 4 8
bbc
Looking good for our Ryder Cup players.

Recent wins for Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Casey, Hatton, and now good form by Hovland, Pieters, Poulter, Rose, Garcia, Perez, Hoejgaard, Rahm.

That would be a team ready to take on the Americans? Proper golfers who would put the effort in.
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08/02/2021 20:08:43 4 1
bbc
At least half of the names mentioned in your post will not make it.
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08/02/2021 19:36:01 2 2
bbc
Right, arfurpops, I’ll bite. You say the same thing on every golf HYS.
What do you propose so we can all discuss it?
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08/02/2021 20:10:34 3 1
bbc
I’ve asked him loads of times but he has no clear ideas or suggestions. If he didn’t enjoy the closing round yesterday then perhaps golf isn’t his sport. Actually, we already know it isn’t ... athletics is.
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08/02/2021 20:14:16 1 1
bbc
Very strange isn’t it?
A blind squirrel will find a nut once!
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09/02/2021 10:12:51 0 0
bbc
perhaps we stop getting long hitters and stop asking for courses to be altered
Perhaps other players should improve and get stronger
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08/02/2021 17:33:48 3 7
bbc
Great to see Jordan & brooks coming back to form again! Johnson winning again is ominous. Where was the bottler?
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08/02/2021 20:11:12 3 3
bbc
Not surprised to see that you are as clueless about golf as you are with Rugby!
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08/02/2021 22:06:44 1 3
bbc
Cheers Walter....
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gg
08/02/2021 23:56:26 0 0
bbc
Your green eyes may deceive you but it's all on tape, watch it with open eyes this time as my granny could have found touch with that kick, and burns wasn't the only bottler out there to miss touch, and I'm a clueless ulsterman. ????????
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08/02/2021 20:10:34 3 1
bbc
I’ve asked him loads of times but he has no clear ideas or suggestions. If he didn’t enjoy the closing round yesterday then perhaps golf isn’t his sport. Actually, we already know it isn’t ... athletics is.
98
08/02/2021 20:14:16 1 1
bbc
Very strange isn’t it?
A blind squirrel will find a nut once!
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08/02/2021 20:20:11 3 1
bbc
He keeps suggesting adding women to the men’s competitions “to make things more interesting”, but never explains how that would actually work or who or benefits. He just repeats the headline again and again ... a bit like Donald trump.

I’m going to have so much fun the day they do actually have an athletics hys. I have a few suggestions to make it more interesting
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08/02/2021 20:18:51 0 3
bbc
The R&A and its American junior equivalent, should bring back the British sized ball if they want to make the game more difficult and skilful. The rest of us could maybe stick with the American ball as it's certainly a bit easier than the old days.
98
08/02/2021 20:14:16 1 1
bbc
Very strange isn’t it?
A blind squirrel will find a nut once!
100
08/02/2021 20:20:11 3 1
bbc
He keeps suggesting adding women to the men’s competitions “to make things more interesting”, but never explains how that would actually work or who or benefits. He just repeats the headline again and again ... a bit like Donald trump.

I’m going to have so much fun the day they do actually have an athletics hys. I have a few suggestions to make it more interesting
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08/02/2021 20:34:22 1 1
bbc
You mean, Jimmy, like a transgender athlete wins an event he/she shouldn’t be in?
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09/02/2021 10:11:56 0 0
bbc
relax jimmy you get so worked up to anything that is different from your opinion
are you the voice of golf or something