Lions Watch - who impressed this weekend?
08/02/2021 | sport | rugbyunion | 565
British and Irish Lions head coach Warren Gatland was in London and Cardiff as all four nations were in action this weekend, so who stood out?
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08/02/2021 21:54:28 6 2
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I think a hys on lions is premature after game 1 of 6n, more pertinently we don’t even know if there will be a tour. Anyway some did their cases no harm at weekend
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08/02/2021 22:15:10 1 7
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I think your comment is for “comments sake” to be honest
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09/02/2021 18:56:09 0 0
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What else have we got to do? It's a bit of fun and if you don't want to take part in the nonsense then go away.
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08/02/2021 21:57:09 4 6
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Good to see Mantej Mann, BBC's rugby correspondent, completely unbiased Welsh rugby journalist giving his comments about English players' lack of chances for being selected for the Lions.
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08/02/2021 22:13:37 3 2
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I’d never heard of Manteca Mann......did he (she?) ever play high level rugby?
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08/02/2021 21:58:41 6 9
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Russell edged Farrell but that's not a glowing reference, Finn sent a lot of stray passes and stray kicks 6/10 beating 5/10.
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08/02/2021 22:11:44 15 2
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Bloody hell, you dug deep for that stat mate! I think most neutrals would agree Russell outplayed Farrell
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08/02/2021 22:07:34 13 1
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At this point I'm time, I'm just pleased we got our win at Twickenham and at random parts of the day I'm reminded of it. Hopefully more victories await. Some decent displays by Scotland and the focus for them will be the next game.
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Gaz
08/02/2021 22:10:24 6 13
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Gatland will need the best front 8 to deal with the enormous bok pack. Scrum half is essential as is flyhalf. Connor and jonny should be a shoe in. No Farrell please, and lets have a mobile number 8.
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AG
08/02/2021 22:14:46 11 3
bbc
Sexton never lasts out a whole game these days. He's still as good as anyone, but not durable enough to build a team around against SA. I think Russell is the best option at the moment, but doubt if Gatland will see it that way.
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08/02/2021 21:58:41 6 9
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Russell edged Farrell but that's not a glowing reference, Finn sent a lot of stray passes and stray kicks 6/10 beating 5/10.
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08/02/2021 22:11:44 15 2
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Bloody hell, you dug deep for that stat mate! I think most neutrals would agree Russell outplayed Farrell
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PJR
08/02/2021 22:38:01 2 8
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I thought both Russell and Farrell were poor. With the possession Scotland had Russell should have done a lot better. He is a liability unfortunately and his trip was just poor childish
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09/02/2021 10:59:33 1 1
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Was farrell playing?
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09/02/2021 12:37:15 1 0
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What stat was that? Read it again I rated Russell 6/10 and Farrell 5/10 so I agree he was better but not by much, its no a stat it's a personal opinion......??????
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AG
08/02/2021 22:12:04 13 4
bbc
Most of the "Teams of the Week" I have seen today have 8 Scots in them. If there are that many Scots on the plane to SA (if there is one) I'll be gobsmacked. Delighted but gobsmacked.
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09/02/2021 09:38:05 5 4
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Me too

From that performance we deserve it aswell

But still 4 more games to go

But Gatland ain’t a fan of Scots
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09/02/2021 11:39:52 1 1
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After 1 round of the 6N I think this has potential to be the most open and balanced touring party as there up to 5 players from each of the Wal, Eng and Ire squads in contention after week 1, whereas as you say there are at least 8 Sco players. However with 4 rounds of the 6N and the Prem, Pro 14 and ERC competions there is still time to claim a place. The Sarries players need to go on loan.
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ET
09/02/2021 17:00:55 0 1
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I’ll be gobsmacked too.
And not delighted.
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08/02/2021 22:12:44 9 23
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AWJ will captain the Lions without a shadow of a doubt
No one comes even close to threatening that position
The man is simply a colossus, leading from the front, as only he can.
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08/02/2021 22:26:40 3 12
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Itoje will captain the Lions. Mark my words. Nothing to do with Rugby, but politically the image of Itoje and Kolisi shaking hands as captains will be irresistible. Trust me.. put your money on it
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08/02/2021 23:35:56 2 2
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I also like the way in which he refs the game.
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09/02/2021 06:23:33 2 2
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He needs more than 1 good game against 14 men. Age not on his side for a brutal tour of SA.
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09/02/2021 06:59:02 1 3
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The flaw in your plan is there are at least 7 locks better than him. The last 3 years he has become a laughing stock outside Wales and the way he constantly questions referees is disgusting - poor role model.

However I'm sure Gatland will pick him & as captain. Absolute joke that man is allowed to coach the Lions again after last time. I know a Maesteg 3rd XV lock who already has his bag packed
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Ian
08/02/2021 22:13:14 17 7
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AWJones had a great game. I just don't get the negative comments some posters give out. You can't pick a lions squad after one round. The Scots front row looked good but England's were poor. The Irish centres played well. Itoje was OK but gave away too many penalties. Tipuric and Watson had excellent games.
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09/02/2021 13:20:40 6 3
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Scots front row has matched or (more often) dominated their opposite numbers since the 6N kicked off last year.
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08/02/2021 21:57:09 4 6
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Good to see Mantej Mann, BBC's rugby correspondent, completely unbiased Welsh rugby journalist giving his comments about English players' lack of chances for being selected for the Lions.
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08/02/2021 22:13:37 3 2
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I’d never heard of Manteca Mann......did he (she?) ever play high level rugby?
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08/02/2021 22:13:43 5 2
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Way too early to be picking Lions squad! Wait until end of tournament, see who played well, who is ruled out through injury as unfortunately there will be some and go from there. After one game, not a chance.
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08/02/2021 22:14:43 3 19
bbc
My lions team has changed after this weekend it will do after next weekend and every weekend.
Right now it would be
Hogg
Watson
Slade
Henshaw
May
Russell
Willams
Faletau
Watson
Underhill
Itoje
Ryan
Vunipola
Cowan Dickie
Sinckler
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08/02/2021 22:20:37 16 9
bbc
Can tell you're English. Putting in 8 Englishman after what we just witnessed. Pathetic. May is seriously over-rated. Cowan-Dickie doesn't even start for England!
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AG
08/02/2021 22:23:05 7 2
bbc
2 wingers and a centre who played in white on Saturday are still in your team? I think you need to make more changes; Watson hasn't been the player he was for 18 months; May looked totally out of sorts.
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09/02/2021 00:55:56 5 2
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I'd put question marks over May ever since the day he couldn't ground a hooker over 70 metres. He's quick at running in a particular direction and it's not towards tackles.
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Gaz
08/02/2021 22:10:24 6 13
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Gatland will need the best front 8 to deal with the enormous bok pack. Scrum half is essential as is flyhalf. Connor and jonny should be a shoe in. No Farrell please, and lets have a mobile number 8.
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AG
08/02/2021 22:14:46 11 3
bbc
Sexton never lasts out a whole game these days. He's still as good as anyone, but not durable enough to build a team around against SA. I think Russell is the best option at the moment, but doubt if Gatland will see it that way.
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08/02/2021 21:54:28 6 2
bbc
I think a hys on lions is premature after game 1 of 6n, more pertinently we don’t even know if there will be a tour. Anyway some did their cases no harm at weekend
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08/02/2021 22:15:10 1 7
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I think your comment is for “comments sake” to be honest
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09/02/2021 06:06:11 2 3
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I’d say yours is! The comment makes perfect sense. 1st sensible comment I’ve read so far
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08/02/2021 22:17:22 2 24
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My way too early Lions starting XV for the 1st test, (if fit), based on current form & ‘credit in the bank’ would be;

M.Vunipola George Furlong
Ryan Itoje
Underhill Stander Curry
Murray Russell
Farrell Davies
May (surely he can’t play that bad again!)
Rees-Zanmit
Hogg.

Reserves;
Genge, Turner, Sinckler,
Jones, B.Vunipola,
Youngs, Tuilagi, L.Williams.
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08/02/2021 22:54:44 10 2
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Those are some mighty thick rose tinted spectacles you've got on there
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08/02/2021 23:20:06 1 1
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Jones past it. Farrell Youngs and B Vunipola just not good enough.
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08/02/2021 23:43:34 3 1
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Genge overrated B Vunipola ineffective.
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09/02/2021 00:15:04 3 1
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Hamish Watson is the best flanker in the northern hemisphere.
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08/02/2021 22:17:37 7 16
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Stop with the Scotland adulation please.. listening to 5 live Rugby now and it's sickening. They controlled that game from start to finish, but 1 breakaway try from England could have turned it over.. game management was crap.. it's all great cos they won.
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08/02/2021 23:08:43 9 2
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Someone is bitter. If England had put in the performance Scotland did then all the pundits would be lording them up. When a team controls a game like that they deserve the praise they are given. "1 break away try from England" but the thing is England were never going to get that try. They didnt even come close.
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09/02/2021 10:49:42 0 1
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You're right, one try and England would have won it. I think you're missing the point though. Scotland dominated England for the whole game, even with 14 men. The Score does not reflect the game and to think it does would indicate that you either don't understand rugby or you are in denial.
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08/02/2021 22:18:39 6 7
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I don't even think a Triple Crown or dare I say it a Grand Slam would influence Gatlands biased view against Scottish players. I have my Lions shirt already and hope the tour happens at some point but I feel Scottish players will be unrepresented once again, unless Townsend gets on the coaching staff and pushes for more Scottish players.
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09/02/2021 00:57:10 2 4
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Sigh ... old chestnuts. There will be one thing on Gatland's mind - winning. Scotland weren't underrepresented on the last few tours.
However, if they continue to play as they are then I'll be very glad to see far more Scots on the plane
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08/02/2021 22:14:43 3 19
bbc
My lions team has changed after this weekend it will do after next weekend and every weekend.
Right now it would be
Hogg
Watson
Slade
Henshaw
May
Russell
Willams
Faletau
Watson
Underhill
Itoje
Ryan
Vunipola
Cowan Dickie
Sinckler
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08/02/2021 22:20:37 16 9
bbc
Can tell you're English. Putting in 8 Englishman after what we just witnessed. Pathetic. May is seriously over-rated. Cowan-Dickie doesn't even start for England!
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08/02/2021 22:58:27 0 3
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May had an off game on sat but 1 game doesn’t mean he shouldn’t start just look at the try’s vs France and Ireland the guy is unreal with Russell playing he will get the space he doesn’t get in an England shirt same as Watson. George is off form and didn’t start for England but did for lions in 17, Turner was great and if Caries on form will be in with shout Cowan dikie is the form 2 atm
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08/02/2021 23:07:41 3 3
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Can that your anti-English by your username
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08/02/2021 23:39:15 5 2
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Cowan-Dickie may not start for England but he should.
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09/02/2021 06:26:37 1 2
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Pathetic not to include them after 1 game. Sure there’s credit in the bank from the recent World Cup and 2 trophies in 2020 and maybe they’ll be judged at the end of this tournament. Just a hunch.
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09/02/2021 10:51:27 0 2
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of course there'll be 8 Englishmen, at least. I'm Scottish and even I admit that they have talented players. using your logic, Scotland were lucky to have 2 players in the last squad. Depends how Gatland picks. old boys act or players on form.
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08/02/2021 22:14:43 3 19
bbc
My lions team has changed after this weekend it will do after next weekend and every weekend.
Right now it would be
Hogg
Watson
Slade
Henshaw
May
Russell
Willams
Faletau
Watson
Underhill
Itoje
Ryan
Vunipola
Cowan Dickie
Sinckler
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AG
08/02/2021 22:23:05 7 2
bbc
2 wingers and a centre who played in white on Saturday are still in your team? I think you need to make more changes; Watson hasn't been the player he was for 18 months; May looked totally out of sorts.
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08/02/2021 23:02:27 1 3
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They had no ball may made a couple of errors is terrible conditions slade may and Watson would thrive with decent attacking ball they never saw on sat Russell would give them that ball.
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08/02/2021 22:25:35 21 6
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People keep saying Farrell will only go on the Lions tour if they need an extra water carrier but I wouldn’t trust him to give the water to the right team.
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08/02/2021 22:30:55 17 2
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I don’t think he will be going as a 10, he’s not even the best 10 in England
There’s also some very good centres out there at the minute - any of the 3 Irish boys could tour before farrell. He needs to up his game over next 4 matches because saracens won’t be able to give game time. Would Be a mistake to take him undercooked and out of form
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09/02/2021 06:06:47 0 2
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??- brilliant. Don’t give up the day job though.
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09/02/2021 10:24:01 0 1
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He could kick it on from the touchline.
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08/02/2021 22:12:44 9 23
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AWJ will captain the Lions without a shadow of a doubt
No one comes even close to threatening that position
The man is simply a colossus, leading from the front, as only he can.
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08/02/2021 22:26:40 3 12
bbc
Itoje will captain the Lions. Mark my words. Nothing to do with Rugby, but politically the image of Itoje and Kolisi shaking hands as captains will be irresistible. Trust me.. put your money on it
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08/02/2021 23:10:28 5 3
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So what you're saying is that Itoje will be made captain because he is black? Go back to football forums, your disgusting attitude is unwelcome here
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08/02/2021 22:27:15 22 5
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Agree it’s getting OTT as regards Scotland , it was one game and a way to go yet. I cannot understand however the continual adulation of Sexton and the ‘game management’. He put at least two kicks out on the full, was predictable with his passing and offers no attacking threat. If Russel did that he would get slated .
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08/02/2021 23:46:41 13 2
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Also Sexton is too old and injury prone.
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09/02/2021 07:46:15 4 1
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Ireland's commitment to Sexton is holding them back. He is so static now, takes everything at stand off standing still stops the entire flow. Only stand off with anything like a decent game was Russell as Biggar was hardly seen.
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09/02/2021 08:42:38 4 1
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Agree. Sexton seems to spend more time on the floor than anything else. I’m afraid he’s past it
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09/02/2021 08:57:47 5 2
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It wasn't just one game though. Scotland have beaten 4 of the 5 other six nations team in the last year, the exception being Ireland. Scotland are currently on excellent form and deserve some adulation after so long being able to muster only the odd win against anyone not called Italy.
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09/02/2021 09:15:38 8 2
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Three of the last four Calcutta cups and it's getting OTT?
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09/02/2021 12:10:23 0 2
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I wouldn’t say adulation but there is very little to chose from at fly half, I like Russell but is he really suited to taking on SA. Scrum half is another problem area, Gatland will want players who keep opposing wing forwards interested that is why l’m sure he will be looking at Youngs and Rhys Webb. Gats will pick the type of players who can carry out his game plan.
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09/02/2021 12:35:45 0 0
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Keep an eye on Sexton another two high tackles again last sunday. Only the
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08/02/2021 22:25:35 21 6
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People keep saying Farrell will only go on the Lions tour if they need an extra water carrier but I wouldn’t trust him to give the water to the right team.
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08/02/2021 22:30:55 17 2
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I don’t think he will be going as a 10, he’s not even the best 10 in England
There’s also some very good centres out there at the minute - any of the 3 Irish boys could tour before farrell. He needs to up his game over next 4 matches because saracens won’t be able to give game time. Would Be a mistake to take him undercooked and out of form
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08/02/2021 22:48:05 7 3
bbc
Most England supported would be devastated if he played in any of the next 4 matches. He is finished. Absolutely clueless unless behind a dominant England or Saracens pack. He’s not even the best 10 at his second division club - Alex Goode is way more talented.
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09/02/2021 13:31:30 1 2
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Farrell's 1st game.. Scotland won by 5 points with the help of Brace. Farrell is a unit. Great leader, great thinker, great kicker... He's not rapid but he can do everything else. You Trolls just want your country in at 10... Back off!!
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08/02/2021 22:31:35 24 3
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I've supported England for over 60 years and at the moment would say the neither Farrell, Youngs, B Vinapola or Slade should go on tour with the British Lions. In fact I can think of only 7 England players who currently have the form to go.
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08/02/2021 23:48:19 15 3
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Daley should not go either in fact he should not be anywhere near the England team.
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09/02/2021 06:04:53 0 4
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After 1 game? Is that all you’ll allow them? ??
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09/02/2021 09:13:44 1 2
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Seven more than me.
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09/02/2021 10:29:50 2 2
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What has Slade ever done to be in a Lions conversation anyway?
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09/02/2021 13:00:23 1 0
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7? I am afraid Itoje is the only one I can think of. If you are the Mike T I am thinking of - your uncle cried on my shoulder at noside Murrayfield 1990. Front Row is Irish/Scottish Half Backs Sottish / Welsh Second Row English / & Scottish or Irish Back Row All Scottish - Centers ( Dont Know ) Full back Scottish Wings Scottish /Welsh or Irish
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09/02/2021 19:21:46 0 0
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As many as 7 Mr Tindall. Surely not. The entire lot on Saturday were embarrassing....well apart from Maro Itoje who was just plain annoying!!
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09/02/2021 21:10:18 0 0
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If picking on form rather than reputation then after Saturday there are no England players with the form to go. Best of a bad bunch was Itoje but gave away a few daft penalties as usual and outplayed by Scottish equivalents.
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08/02/2021 22:11:44 15 2
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Bloody hell, you dug deep for that stat mate! I think most neutrals would agree Russell outplayed Farrell
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PJR
08/02/2021 22:38:01 2 8
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I thought both Russell and Farrell were poor. With the possession Scotland had Russell should have done a lot better. He is a liability unfortunately and his trip was just poor childish
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08/02/2021 22:40:01 7 2
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A week is along time in rugby. Next weekend we could be talking about other players and casting some who look bolt on out into the wilderness.
It's not over until the fat prop signs.
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08/02/2021 23:49:00 1 1
bbc
Sings?
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08/02/2021 22:30:55 17 2
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I don’t think he will be going as a 10, he’s not even the best 10 in England
There’s also some very good centres out there at the minute - any of the 3 Irish boys could tour before farrell. He needs to up his game over next 4 matches because saracens won’t be able to give game time. Would Be a mistake to take him undercooked and out of form
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08/02/2021 22:48:05 7 3
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Most England supported would be devastated if he played in any of the next 4 matches. He is finished. Absolutely clueless unless behind a dominant England or Saracens pack. He’s not even the best 10 at his second division club - Alex Goode is way more talented.
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08/02/2021 23:07:37 1 2
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Goode is a very talented back always wondered why he was overlooked for England, he lacks cutting edge pace but could have cover 10 very well for England
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09/02/2021 06:08:39 0 2
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Devastated?! Most remember the WC. Lions 2017. 6N 2020. Most aren’t fickle enough to write him off after 1 game behind a beaten pack.
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08/02/2021 22:50:43 1 7
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Russell has that x factor and is a Lions cert. My only doubt about him is his goal kicking. He missed at least 2 kicks on Saturday that Farrell almost certainly would have got. And he has only become Scotland's goal kicker since Laidlaw retired. Goal kicks could be critical for both Scotland and Lions. I suspect Farrell will be somewhere in the Lions team as he is the best goal kicker available.
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08/02/2021 22:57:12 3 3
bbc
Smith from Harlequins is the best goal kicker available. He should be the England 10.
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09/02/2021 06:20:31 1 3
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Trips well for yellow cards though.
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09/02/2021 08:23:27 0 1
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@69% no he isn't !! 1/2P still a better kicker and l don't think he will go either !
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09/02/2021 12:57:17 0 0
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Farrell wouldn't have almost certainly got them given his performance in the previous match at Twickenham. He's flaky.
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08/02/2021 22:17:22 2 24
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My way too early Lions starting XV for the 1st test, (if fit), based on current form & ‘credit in the bank’ would be;

M.Vunipola George Furlong
Ryan Itoje
Underhill Stander Curry
Murray Russell
Farrell Davies
May (surely he can’t play that bad again!)
Rees-Zanmit
Hogg.

Reserves;
Genge, Turner, Sinckler,
Jones, B.Vunipola,
Youngs, Tuilagi, L.Williams.
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08/02/2021 22:54:44 10 2
bbc
Those are some mighty thick rose tinted spectacles you've got on there
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09/02/2021 06:29:49 0 2
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7 English starters is pretty normal for Lions. As he says looking at credit in the bank from 19/20. Still time for all to play themselves in/out.
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08/02/2021 22:50:43 1 7
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Russell has that x factor and is a Lions cert. My only doubt about him is his goal kicking. He missed at least 2 kicks on Saturday that Farrell almost certainly would have got. And he has only become Scotland's goal kicker since Laidlaw retired. Goal kicks could be critical for both Scotland and Lions. I suspect Farrell will be somewhere in the Lions team as he is the best goal kicker available.
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08/02/2021 22:57:12 3 3
bbc
Smith from Harlequins is the best goal kicker available. He should be the England 10.
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08/02/2021 23:50:20 0 1
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Agree but Jones does not rate him.
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08/02/2021 22:20:37 16 9
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Can tell you're English. Putting in 8 Englishman after what we just witnessed. Pathetic. May is seriously over-rated. Cowan-Dickie doesn't even start for England!
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08/02/2021 22:58:27 0 3
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May had an off game on sat but 1 game doesn’t mean he shouldn’t start just look at the try’s vs France and Ireland the guy is unreal with Russell playing he will get the space he doesn’t get in an England shirt same as Watson. George is off form and didn’t start for England but did for lions in 17, Turner was great and if Caries on form will be in with shout Cowan dikie is the form 2 atm
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08/02/2021 23:02:04 23 8
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Not hearing much talk about Van der Merwe's, took his try well went through three English players, also when he gets going he is fast look at the game 8mins 30 secs in Redpath kicks ahead VDM sprints after it and he overtakes all the English back line and if the ball had stayed in he would probably have scored.
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09/02/2021 08:33:25 11 11
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VDM at least speaks Afrikaans so would be useful for understanding line out calls??. Just remember, one Swallow does not a summer make. May has been consistently one of the highest scoring wingers for a number of seasons now, that holds more sway than one well taken try.
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09/02/2021 08:33:53 7 9
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Agree top player but he is South African, cant have a South Afrian playing against South Africa. Im British and i want the Lions to be British or Irish, at this rate half the Lions will be South African. Whats the point.
Just my opinion
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09/02/2021 09:14:15 9 3
bbc
I've always been impressed with Sean Maitland too, who never seems to get headlines though.
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AG
08/02/2021 22:23:05 7 2
bbc
2 wingers and a centre who played in white on Saturday are still in your team? I think you need to make more changes; Watson hasn't been the player he was for 18 months; May looked totally out of sorts.
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08/02/2021 23:02:27 1 3
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They had no ball may made a couple of errors is terrible conditions slade may and Watson would thrive with decent attacking ball they never saw on sat Russell would give them that ball.
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08/02/2021 22:48:05 7 3
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Most England supported would be devastated if he played in any of the next 4 matches. He is finished. Absolutely clueless unless behind a dominant England or Saracens pack. He’s not even the best 10 at his second division club - Alex Goode is way more talented.
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08/02/2021 23:07:37 1 2
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Goode is a very talented back always wondered why he was overlooked for England, he lacks cutting edge pace but could have cover 10 very well for England
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08/02/2021 22:20:37 16 9
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Can tell you're English. Putting in 8 Englishman after what we just witnessed. Pathetic. May is seriously over-rated. Cowan-Dickie doesn't even start for England!
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08/02/2021 23:07:41 3 3
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Can that your anti-English by your username
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08/02/2021 22:17:37 7 16
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Stop with the Scotland adulation please.. listening to 5 live Rugby now and it's sickening. They controlled that game from start to finish, but 1 breakaway try from England could have turned it over.. game management was crap.. it's all great cos they won.
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08/02/2021 23:08:43 9 2
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Someone is bitter. If England had put in the performance Scotland did then all the pundits would be lording them up. When a team controls a game like that they deserve the praise they are given. "1 break away try from England" but the thing is England were never going to get that try. They didnt even come close.
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08/02/2021 23:36:05 3 3
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I'm not bitter, I'm Welsh, and have been heart broken too many times. England's wingers are fast and good, Scotland should have put that game beyond them much earlier. Penalties count
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09/02/2021 09:18:34 0 2
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No they wouldn’t they’d be slating England for not scoring more with 65% possession,and the Scots would be claiming a moral victory for keeping the score down.
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08/02/2021 22:26:40 3 12
bbc
Itoje will captain the Lions. Mark my words. Nothing to do with Rugby, but politically the image of Itoje and Kolisi shaking hands as captains will be irresistible. Trust me.. put your money on it
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08/02/2021 23:10:28 5 3
bbc
So what you're saying is that Itoje will be made captain because he is black? Go back to football forums, your disgusting attitude is unwelcome here
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08/02/2021 23:27:09 2 5
bbc
That's the way the world is these days.. the 'woke' culture rules
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08/02/2021 23:14:46 18 11
bbc
Scotland outplayed Wales at Murrayfield in 2017 (with Gatland watching in the stands, quite miserably) , yet he only picked two Scots. A number of out of form Welsh players went instead.

Wouldn’t be surprised if history repeats itself.
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AG
09/02/2021 08:17:51 7 1
bbc
The excuse in 2017 was that the Scots could only perform at home. Parc y Scarlets and Twickenham have shot that fox.
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09/02/2021 08:20:22 2 5
bbc
His selections were spot on
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09/02/2021 08:32:06 1 1
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A bit like the current situation one game does not put you into the Lions squad.
In 2017 the games vs Scotland was pretty close, one score I think, going into the last 10/15 when Scotland scored again. The point being Wales battled to the end ....
Let's be honest. Scotland's game vs England was an embarrassing capitulation. That's why so few got on the plane
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09/02/2021 19:53:26 0 0
bbc
I hope Scotland have a great 6 nations then hopefully Gotland will pick on ability, mind you history will repeat itself and low single figures. Already Hogg, Russell Watson gray should already be in with 8or 9 more seriously considered, oh for a scrum half in the home nations,
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08/02/2021 22:17:22 2 24
bbc
My way too early Lions starting XV for the 1st test, (if fit), based on current form & ‘credit in the bank’ would be;

M.Vunipola George Furlong
Ryan Itoje
Underhill Stander Curry
Murray Russell
Farrell Davies
May (surely he can’t play that bad again!)
Rees-Zanmit
Hogg.

Reserves;
Genge, Turner, Sinckler,
Jones, B.Vunipola,
Youngs, Tuilagi, L.Williams.
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08/02/2021 23:20:06 1 1
bbc
Jones past it. Farrell Youngs and B Vunipola just not good enough.
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08/02/2021 23:38:48 1 1
bbc
BV starting to approach chocolate teapot territory...ok he’s never going to be able to make the metres Sam Simmonds does but he no longer looks effective over 5m, so what exactly is he bringing to the party...130+Kg is nothing if it’s largely static-boks would have a field day. Looked way off the pace even compared with the Autumn...
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08/02/2021 23:10:28 5 3
bbc
So what you're saying is that Itoje will be made captain because he is black? Go back to football forums, your disgusting attitude is unwelcome here
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08/02/2021 23:27:09 2 5
bbc
That's the way the world is these days.. the 'woke' culture rules
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08/02/2021 23:29:24 3 3
bbc
Gray and AWJ starting could be good
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09/02/2021 13:06:27 0 0
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They're too similar. You need one of them to be paired with a more dynamic lock, I think.
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08/02/2021 23:33:02 3 6
bbc
It's very hard to justify any England players for Lions selection apart from Tompkins and Rees-Zammit! ;-)
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09/02/2021 06:14:08 2 1
bbc
?? - that’s funny!
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09/02/2021 09:45:16 0 1
bbc
Hilarious..seriously....just wet myself!!
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09/02/2021 11:04:38 0 1
bbc
Wales managed to pinch Tompkins, Zammit is Welsh, turned down England attempts to steal him. Make residence qualification 5 years at least, better still 10 before E.S.W.I. end up with teams of imported islanders playing "brutal" rugby for import coach! Plenty of talent in home grown English lads, bring them on, give them a chance. Will " Lions" eventually end up as all "imports" ? Sad if so.
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KW
09/02/2021 19:45:30 0 0
bbc
Rees Zammit???? He was born in Penarth and started his Youth career with Cardiff. What are you on???
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08/02/2021 22:12:44 9 23
bbc
AWJ will captain the Lions without a shadow of a doubt
No one comes even close to threatening that position
The man is simply a colossus, leading from the front, as only he can.
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08/02/2021 23:35:56 2 2
bbc
I also like the way in which he refs the game.
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08/02/2021 23:08:43 9 2
bbc
Someone is bitter. If England had put in the performance Scotland did then all the pundits would be lording them up. When a team controls a game like that they deserve the praise they are given. "1 break away try from England" but the thing is England were never going to get that try. They didnt even come close.
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08/02/2021 23:36:05 3 3
bbc
I'm not bitter, I'm Welsh, and have been heart broken too many times. England's wingers are fast and good, Scotland should have put that game beyond them much earlier. Penalties count
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08/02/2021 23:36:38 3 2
bbc
It's been clear for 2 years that Farrell is not an international 10 and he not good enough as a 12 either - only there for his kicking which is not even that reliable anymore. For the Lions tour which will 100% not be in SA Gatland will probably go for Biggar who is even slower than Farrell simply because like England he will try to defend his way to a win and kick most of the time. Sad but true.
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08/02/2021 23:20:06 1 1
bbc
Jones past it. Farrell Youngs and B Vunipola just not good enough.
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08/02/2021 23:38:48 1 1
bbc
BV starting to approach chocolate teapot territory...ok he’s never going to be able to make the metres Sam Simmonds does but he no longer looks effective over 5m, so what exactly is he bringing to the party...130+Kg is nothing if it’s largely static-boks would have a field day. Looked way off the pace even compared with the Autumn...
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08/02/2021 22:20:37 16 9
bbc
Can tell you're English. Putting in 8 Englishman after what we just witnessed. Pathetic. May is seriously over-rated. Cowan-Dickie doesn't even start for England!
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08/02/2021 23:39:15 5 2
bbc
Cowan-Dickie may not start for England but he should.
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08/02/2021 23:42:36 2 1
bbc
Lions tour? I love your optimism
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08/02/2021 22:17:22 2 24
bbc
My way too early Lions starting XV for the 1st test, (if fit), based on current form & ‘credit in the bank’ would be;

M.Vunipola George Furlong
Ryan Itoje
Underhill Stander Curry
Murray Russell
Farrell Davies
May (surely he can’t play that bad again!)
Rees-Zanmit
Hogg.

Reserves;
Genge, Turner, Sinckler,
Jones, B.Vunipola,
Youngs, Tuilagi, L.Williams.
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08/02/2021 23:43:34 3 1
bbc
Genge overrated B Vunipola ineffective.
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08/02/2021 22:27:15 22 5
bbc
Agree it’s getting OTT as regards Scotland , it was one game and a way to go yet. I cannot understand however the continual adulation of Sexton and the ‘game management’. He put at least two kicks out on the full, was predictable with his passing and offers no attacking threat. If Russel did that he would get slated .
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08/02/2021 23:46:41 13 2
bbc
Also Sexton is too old and injury prone.
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08/02/2021 22:31:35 24 3
bbc
I've supported England for over 60 years and at the moment would say the neither Farrell, Youngs, B Vinapola or Slade should go on tour with the British Lions. In fact I can think of only 7 England players who currently have the form to go.
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08/02/2021 23:48:19 15 3
bbc
Daley should not go either in fact he should not be anywhere near the England team.
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08/02/2021 23:49:00 7 2
bbc
From Saturday, only Itoje and Curry came close to Lions squad selection.
Laurence and Slade can't be judged too harshly, as they never saw the ball!
Farrell needed to be pulled off after half time, when nothing changed from the first half.
Lots of potential English lions didn't even feature in the competition this weekend, playing for their clubs!
Very few white shirts in the Lions red!
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09/02/2021 06:12:03 1 3
bbc
By that logic all 23 go when they beat Italy this weekend?
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09/02/2021 19:27:32 0 0
bbc
Why should most of the Lions be English. Blinders or what?
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08/02/2021 22:40:01 7 2
bbc
A week is along time in rugby. Next weekend we could be talking about other players and casting some who look bolt on out into the wilderness.
It's not over until the fat prop signs.
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08/02/2021 23:49:00 1 1
bbc
Sings?
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09/02/2021 08:36:29 0 1
bbc
Sorry sausage fingers. I had all the right letters but not in the right order.
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08/02/2021 22:57:12 3 3
bbc
Smith from Harlequins is the best goal kicker available. He should be the England 10.
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08/02/2021 23:50:20 0 1
bbc
Agree but Jones does not rate him.
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09/02/2021 00:05:29 1 9
bbc
FB’s Hogg, 1/2p, Daly
W. Val de M, LRZ, May, Darcy Gray.
C. North, Henshaw, Ringrose, poss Redpath
FH Russell, Sexton, Biggar.
SH. Youngs, Murray, Webb
P Fagerson, Furlong, Sutherland, Jones, Sinkler
H George, Murray, Owens
SR AWJ, Itoje, J Gray, ?
F. Watson, Curry, Ritchie, Wilson, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Stander, Vunilpola. I
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09/02/2021 00:08:06 1 2
bbc
No Farrell?
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09/02/2021 00:18:10 4 1
bbc
SH Youngs???? FFS! He is useless for England and you want him for the Lions??
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09/02/2021 00:52:34 4 1
bbc
Don't think Curry has made a case to go yet
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09/02/2021 03:13:15 2 5
bbc
Youngs, Murray, Webb ? Prefer Davies, Williams, Webb
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09/02/2021 06:19:19 0 3
bbc
I’d take Davies and Tuilagi in the centres over North! Not sure how Mako Vunipola and Watson miss out.
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09/02/2021 06:22:47 2 1
bbc
Not sure what your team is based on? The weekends performances?
Youngs at 9, hopefully not.
2nd row, Ryan and Beirne in with a shout.
Back row - wide open, Vunipola was shocking.
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09/02/2021 08:10:51 6 1
bbc
Not much mention of liam William's! I know he hasnt played yet but ability to cover 15,14 and 11,I think will put him in!
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09/02/2021 00:05:29 1 9
bbc
FB’s Hogg, 1/2p, Daly
W. Val de M, LRZ, May, Darcy Gray.
C. North, Henshaw, Ringrose, poss Redpath
FH Russell, Sexton, Biggar.
SH. Youngs, Murray, Webb
P Fagerson, Furlong, Sutherland, Jones, Sinkler
H George, Murray, Owens
SR AWJ, Itoje, J Gray, ?
F. Watson, Curry, Ritchie, Wilson, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Stander, Vunilpola. I
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09/02/2021 00:08:06 1 2
bbc
No Farrell?
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09/02/2021 00:08:09 3 11
bbc
Typical Scots one game and they’re world beaters if and it’s a very big if the Lions go ahead the side will be mainly English and Irish with a few Welsh guys thrown in Scots are to inconsistent and you don’t know what you’ll get remember Japan.
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09/02/2021 00:59:29 6 2
bbc
Same old tired lazy line. It hasn’t just one game though has it? The fact that England have won one out of the past four Calcutta cups should be evidence enough. We have some genuinely class players who don’t get the credit they deserve. We don’t have the luxury of having a player pool large enough to pick a well balanced team. Our players have had to cope with the team’s collective deficiencies.
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09/02/2021 06:16:24 0 1
bbc
WUM.

Typical response .

Inconsistent -laughable
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09/02/2021 09:15:12 1 3
bbc
Typical Scots tartan specs on and a short memory As I say inconsistent Russell yellow for cowards trip he’ll lose you more games than win if that was a Lions clincher his rivals don’t have to do much to match it.Hogg good boot but his one on one tackling is still poor,Williams is a better F/B.As for 6N have you ever won it? England poor Saturday but we’ve got plenty to return,but that’s up to EJ.
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Al
09/02/2021 22:35:10 0 0
bbc
that Japan result was hilarious
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09/02/2021 00:14:56 4 3
bbc
For me several home nations players made a case for the Lions this 6Ns round although there is a way to go.

Eng. Really just Itoje so far.
Ire. Ringrose & Henshaw.
Scot. Hogg, Russell & Gray.
Wal. AW Jones still world class. Tomos Williams looks bright at SH. Zammit? Owens great in the loose but the lineout?

All the home nations front rows looked suspect to me. Back row too early to call.
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08/02/2021 22:17:22 2 24
bbc
My way too early Lions starting XV for the 1st test, (if fit), based on current form & ‘credit in the bank’ would be;

M.Vunipola George Furlong
Ryan Itoje
Underhill Stander Curry
Murray Russell
Farrell Davies
May (surely he can’t play that bad again!)
Rees-Zanmit
Hogg.

Reserves;
Genge, Turner, Sinckler,
Jones, B.Vunipola,
Youngs, Tuilagi, L.Williams.
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09/02/2021 00:15:04 3 1
bbc
Hamish Watson is the best flanker in the northern hemisphere.
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09/02/2021 00:05:29 1 9
bbc
FB’s Hogg, 1/2p, Daly
W. Val de M, LRZ, May, Darcy Gray.
C. North, Henshaw, Ringrose, poss Redpath
FH Russell, Sexton, Biggar.
SH. Youngs, Murray, Webb
P Fagerson, Furlong, Sutherland, Jones, Sinkler
H George, Murray, Owens
SR AWJ, Itoje, J Gray, ?
F. Watson, Curry, Ritchie, Wilson, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Stander, Vunilpola. I
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09/02/2021 00:18:10 4 1
bbc
SH Youngs???? FFS! He is useless for England and you want him for the Lions??
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09/02/2021 00:18:53 2 9
bbc
Russell has to be a stick on at 10 but people saying Farrell shouldn't even be in the squad have lost the plot.... as a scot I hate him but he is a natural leader, a reliable kicker and world class at both 10 or 12 i(n my opinion)
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09/02/2021 00:26:42 1 2
bbc
You take 3 FHs on a Lions tour right? An old pro, an attacking player and a dependable kicker.
Old pro - if not knackered is Sexton
Attacker - is Russel at the mo although Ford & Smith are in the mix.
Dependable - hardest selection - probably still Fazz or maybe Biggar.
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09/02/2021 00:18:53 2 9
bbc
Russell has to be a stick on at 10 but people saying Farrell shouldn't even be in the squad have lost the plot.... as a scot I hate him but he is a natural leader, a reliable kicker and world class at both 10 or 12 i(n my opinion)
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09/02/2021 00:26:42 1 2
bbc
You take 3 FHs on a Lions tour right? An old pro, an attacking player and a dependable kicker.
Old pro - if not knackered is Sexton
Attacker - is Russel at the mo although Ford & Smith are in the mix.
Dependable - hardest selection - probably still Fazz or maybe Biggar.
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09/02/2021 08:14:25 0 2
bbc
If your going to take Sexton better check if phylosan & sanatogen are on the banned list!!
No seriously he never lasts 80 minutes nowadays
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09/02/2021 00:39:41 2 2
bbc
Pointless discussing it.

Has a decision been made yet?
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09/02/2021 00:41:57 4 11
bbc
The Celts getting over excited by one bad England result.
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09/02/2021 00:57:34 5 3
bbc
You still have to go to Dublin and Cardiff, both eminently losable and even at fortress twickers France won’t be a pushover.
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09/02/2021 10:39:14 1 1
bbc
Or! One excellent performance that didn't allow England to play? Look at the resources available to both teams and you're surprised Scotland fans are happy? Just man up and accept defeat gracefully.
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09/02/2021 00:50:26 2 6
bbc
Not sure anyone nailed a place down

Eng were woeful , only Itoje Anywhere near good enough

Scot played very well, but vs Eng they always raise their game for. Can they string 3 games together ? Watson Gray & Hogg All excellent.

Wales struggled vs 14 men AWJ to tour, not sure he’ll make tests.

Ire fantastic effort. Furlong , 5,7,8 12&13 all outstanding.

10 looks a weakness for lions.
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09/02/2021 01:37:02 4 2
bbc
10 most certainly not a weakness
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09/02/2021 08:21:48 1 1
bbc
Scotland’s last 4 v England w2 d1 l1. Not a bad record against the N Hemisphere ‘top nation’. Scotland have beaten France, Italy, Wales and England in their last 4 Six Nations games.
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09/02/2021 00:51:31 3 2
bbc
I've no problem with players qualifying on residency, although prefer the 5 year rule, but not sure I want a Lions squad full of SH residency players. Vunipolas etc fine - grew up here. Hopefully only a couple
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09/02/2021 01:02:18 1 4
bbc
Outside chance is Manu Vunipola at 10. Nobody has seen him play for a while. Promising last year but still young. You don't have to be an international to play for the lions but is he better than Smith at Quins?
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09/02/2021 00:05:29 1 9
bbc
FB’s Hogg, 1/2p, Daly
W. Val de M, LRZ, May, Darcy Gray.
C. North, Henshaw, Ringrose, poss Redpath
FH Russell, Sexton, Biggar.
SH. Youngs, Murray, Webb
P Fagerson, Furlong, Sutherland, Jones, Sinkler
H George, Murray, Owens
SR AWJ, Itoje, J Gray, ?
F. Watson, Curry, Ritchie, Wilson, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Stander, Vunilpola. I
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09/02/2021 00:52:34 4 1
bbc
Don't think Curry has made a case to go yet
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08/02/2021 22:14:43 3 19
bbc
My lions team has changed after this weekend it will do after next weekend and every weekend.
Right now it would be
Hogg
Watson
Slade
Henshaw
May
Russell
Willams
Faletau
Watson
Underhill
Itoje
Ryan
Vunipola
Cowan Dickie
Sinckler
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09/02/2021 00:55:56 5 2
bbc
I'd put question marks over May ever since the day he couldn't ground a hooker over 70 metres. He's quick at running in a particular direction and it's not towards tackles.
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08/02/2021 22:18:39 6 7
bbc
I don't even think a Triple Crown or dare I say it a Grand Slam would influence Gatlands biased view against Scottish players. I have my Lions shirt already and hope the tour happens at some point but I feel Scottish players will be unrepresented once again, unless Townsend gets on the coaching staff and pushes for more Scottish players.
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09/02/2021 00:57:10 2 4
bbc
Sigh ... old chestnuts. There will be one thing on Gatland's mind - winning. Scotland weren't underrepresented on the last few tours.
However, if they continue to play as they are then I'll be very glad to see far more Scots on the plane
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09/02/2021 09:57:28 0 1
bbc
They were underrepresented. Gatland took journeymen like Moriarty over world-class players like Watson.
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09/02/2021 00:41:57 4 11
bbc
The Celts getting over excited by one bad England result.
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09/02/2021 00:57:34 5 3
bbc
You still have to go to Dublin and Cardiff, both eminently losable and even at fortress twickers France won’t be a pushover.
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09/02/2021 06:13:23 3 3
bbc
You only have to keep 15 men on the pitch to win in Cardiff.
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Al
09/02/2021 22:32:14 0 0
bbc
bring it on
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09/02/2021 00:58:46 1 11
bbc
Gatland will be worried with the abject lack of talent in all the sides except France. Not sure he can pick Teddy Tomas from France.

Eng - terrible, hard to think of a single player. Maybe Otoje.
Scot - again poor. Maybe back row. Maybe Hogg.
Ire - ringrose was good
Wal - props were decent, about it really

So Warren has about 5 players so far.. he will hope for far more!

Very low on quality.
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09/02/2021 01:03:31 2 2
bbc
England had a bad game, itoje got passmarks, that’s about it.
Scotland hogg Gray, back row. Not getting too excited about Redpath yet but if as Dawson suggest he has 4 games of similar caliber then he’s in the plane, apart from first 10 mins price have speedy service. Props played well
Ire - ringrose and henshaw, Ryan
Wales - Awj looked like he had never been away, biggar had a shocker
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09/02/2021 01:05:43 2 1
bbc
Teddy Tomas.

One swallow doesn't make a spring. Every 7 in world rugby is going to be all over him from now on.
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09/02/2021 05:58:17 1 2
bbc
I doubt he will be worried at all after 1 round. Plenty not played in a while. Let’s see where we’re at at the end of 6N.
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09/02/2021 10:45:09 0 1
bbc
I'm pretty new to rugby so I'm learning but even I know that your opinion sucks! Plenty of talent in these teams. Scotland to a man were excellent this weekend and have been all autumn. England weren't allowed to play on Saturday but they have excellent players who will recover from the weekend. Ireland and Wales are going through changes but individually have excellent players.
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09/02/2021 00:08:09 3 11
bbc
Typical Scots one game and they’re world beaters if and it’s a very big if the Lions go ahead the side will be mainly English and Irish with a few Welsh guys thrown in Scots are to inconsistent and you don’t know what you’ll get remember Japan.
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09/02/2021 00:59:29 6 2
bbc
Same old tired lazy line. It hasn’t just one game though has it? The fact that England have won one out of the past four Calcutta cups should be evidence enough. We have some genuinely class players who don’t get the credit they deserve. We don’t have the luxury of having a player pool large enough to pick a well balanced team. Our players have had to cope with the team’s collective deficiencies.
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09/02/2021 01:01:08 4 3
bbc
Gatland won't take someone like Russell, unfortunately. He prefers the consistent but unspectacular types that will not do anything rash or stupid, but won't throw in a howler or two either. He may be forced to though. Farrell's predictable and slow. Sexton is past it and Russell's better than Biggar.

Gray, Hogg and Watson all look good for the tour if they keep performing.
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09/02/2021 01:04:17 3 6
bbc
I think Russell would be a great midweek player for the Lions. Entertaining and unpredictable. Then comes in for an injury in the last test to inspire a fantastic win. I'm an Eng fan too!
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09/02/2021 07:41:57 1 1
bbc
Farrell is consistently poor, not sure that’s what you want from a Lions 10.
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09/02/2021 08:06:57 1 1
bbc
Russell will go!!
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09/02/2021 10:35:34 0 1
bbc
Agreed. Russell for entertaining Rugby. Gatland is known for pragmatic rugby. it'll be the old boys network I think. Pretty sure he'll already have made up his mind to be honest.
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09/02/2021 00:51:31 3 2
bbc
I've no problem with players qualifying on residency, although prefer the 5 year rule, but not sure I want a Lions squad full of SH residency players. Vunipolas etc fine - grew up here. Hopefully only a couple
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09/02/2021 01:02:18 1 4
bbc
Outside chance is Manu Vunipola at 10. Nobody has seen him play for a while. Promising last year but still young. You don't have to be an international to play for the lions but is he better than Smith at Quins?
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09/02/2021 01:06:53 1 1
bbc
He’s looked good whenever I’ve seen him play,
Smith has been fantastic for quins - I think offers more than Ford which pushes farrell back to 12
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09/02/2021 00:58:46 1 11
bbc
Gatland will be worried with the abject lack of talent in all the sides except France. Not sure he can pick Teddy Tomas from France.

Eng - terrible, hard to think of a single player. Maybe Otoje.
Scot - again poor. Maybe back row. Maybe Hogg.
Ire - ringrose was good
Wal - props were decent, about it really

So Warren has about 5 players so far.. he will hope for far more!

Very low on quality.
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09/02/2021 01:03:31 2 2
bbc
England had a bad game, itoje got passmarks, that’s about it.
Scotland hogg Gray, back row. Not getting too excited about Redpath yet but if as Dawson suggest he has 4 games of similar caliber then he’s in the plane, apart from first 10 mins price have speedy service. Props played well
Ire - ringrose and henshaw, Ryan
Wales - Awj looked like he had never been away, biggar had a shocker
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09/02/2021 01:01:08 4 3
bbc
Gatland won't take someone like Russell, unfortunately. He prefers the consistent but unspectacular types that will not do anything rash or stupid, but won't throw in a howler or two either. He may be forced to though. Farrell's predictable and slow. Sexton is past it and Russell's better than Biggar.

Gray, Hogg and Watson all look good for the tour if they keep performing.
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09/02/2021 01:04:17 3 6
bbc
I think Russell would be a great midweek player for the Lions. Entertaining and unpredictable. Then comes in for an injury in the last test to inspire a fantastic win. I'm an Eng fan too!
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09/02/2021 00:58:46 1 11
bbc
Gatland will be worried with the abject lack of talent in all the sides except France. Not sure he can pick Teddy Tomas from France.

Eng - terrible, hard to think of a single player. Maybe Otoje.
Scot - again poor. Maybe back row. Maybe Hogg.
Ire - ringrose was good
Wal - props were decent, about it really

So Warren has about 5 players so far.. he will hope for far more!

Very low on quality.
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09/02/2021 01:05:43 2 1
bbc
Teddy Tomas.

One swallow doesn't make a spring. Every 7 in world rugby is going to be all over him from now on.
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09/02/2021 01:06:12 9 1
bbc
Not sure how bad Tomos W's hamstring was. If he's ruled out for a while opens up possibilities at 9. I could see a bolter coming through maybe.
Pretty sure a lot of the England lads will redeem themselves. When is Underhill back? He's head n shoulders England's best flanker.
Great to see the Scottish players putting their hands up too.
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For me Tomos looked the real deal at 9 while he was on the pitch. God knows we could do with a descent 9 in the home nations!
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09/02/2021 06:38:41 2 5
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Murray looked really solid and is tried and tested. If he plays well all tournament he’s nailed on.
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09/02/2021 12:30:01 0 0
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There isn't another 9 anywhere near Tomos W
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09/02/2021 01:02:18 1 4
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Outside chance is Manu Vunipola at 10. Nobody has seen him play for a while. Promising last year but still young. You don't have to be an international to play for the lions but is he better than Smith at Quins?
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09/02/2021 01:06:53 1 1
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He’s looked good whenever I’ve seen him play,
Smith has been fantastic for quins - I think offers more than Ford which pushes farrell back to 12
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09/02/2021 01:13:00 1 2
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Agreed. I'd get Smith at 10 for Eng now and I'm a Sarrie. Fazz 12 or older pro on the bench. Ford just blows hot and cold for me. For the Lions you are probably going to go with Russell or Smith and Sexton coming on to close it out.
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Not sure how bad Tomos W's hamstring was. If he's ruled out for a while opens up possibilities at 9. I could see a bolter coming through maybe.
Pretty sure a lot of the England lads will redeem themselves. When is Underhill back? He's head n shoulders England's best flanker.
Great to see the Scottish players putting their hands up too.
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09/02/2021 01:09:41 11 1
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For me Tomos looked the real deal at 9 while he was on the pitch. God knows we could do with a descent 9 in the home nations!
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09/02/2021 01:18:36 4 1
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Once he found his rhythm After 10 mins I thought price played well on Saturday. Used his box kick well (take note youngs) and have speedy service. Williams impressed me too but depending on hamstring severity could easily be gone for the next 6-8 weeks. Murray did what he always does and youngs was so bad not even worth mentioning in lions terms
I thought he was excellent until he went off, sadly he could be out of 6n depending on severity.
thought price played well once he found his rhythm and didn’t let his 2 early charge downs affect his game, after this he box kicked well and didn’t overuse it, speedy service from rucks and scrums too.
Murray is fading - may be a midweeker
Youngs should be nowhere near a lions tour on current form
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09/02/2021 03:32:20 0 8
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But Teddy Tomos is a winger...and French ...
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09/02/2021 01:06:53 1 1
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He’s looked good whenever I’ve seen him play,
Smith has been fantastic for quins - I think offers more than Ford which pushes farrell back to 12
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09/02/2021 01:13:00 1 2
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Agreed. I'd get Smith at 10 for Eng now and I'm a Sarrie. Fazz 12 or older pro on the bench. Ford just blows hot and cold for me. For the Lions you are probably going to go with Russell or Smith and Sexton coming on to close it out.
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09/02/2021 01:09:41 11 1
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For me Tomos looked the real deal at 9 while he was on the pitch. God knows we could do with a descent 9 in the home nations!
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Once he found his rhythm After 10 mins I thought price played well on Saturday. Used his box kick well (take note youngs) and have speedy service. Williams impressed me too but depending on hamstring severity could easily be gone for the next 6-8 weeks. Murray did what he always does and youngs was so bad not even worth mentioning in lions terms
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09/02/2021 01:33:51 5 1
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Agree on Youngs. My God Tigers aren't doing well for a reason, why does he get the nod for Eng let alone the Lions???
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For me Tomos looked the real deal at 9 while he was on the pitch. God knows we could do with a descent 9 in the home nations!
I thought he was excellent until he went off, sadly he could be out of 6n depending on severity.
thought price played well once he found his rhythm and didn’t let his 2 early charge downs affect his game, after this he box kicked well and didn’t overuse it, speedy service from rucks and scrums too.
Murray is fading - may be a midweeker
Youngs should be nowhere near a lions tour on current form
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09/02/2021 01:18:36 4 1
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Once he found his rhythm After 10 mins I thought price played well on Saturday. Used his box kick well (take note youngs) and have speedy service. Williams impressed me too but depending on hamstring severity could easily be gone for the next 6-8 weeks. Murray did what he always does and youngs was so bad not even worth mentioning in lions terms
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09/02/2021 01:33:51 5 1
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Agree on Youngs. My God Tigers aren't doing well for a reason, why does he get the nod for Eng let alone the Lions???
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09/02/2021 01:36:36 7 2
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Got to go. Someone needs their boiler repressurized and I'm on nights. Great that after dark rugby fans and not nationalist idiots or around. Thanks fellas.
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09/02/2021 01:53:41 6 1
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Maybe because child labour laws forbid them doing nights!
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09/02/2021 00:50:26 2 6
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Not sure anyone nailed a place down

Eng were woeful , only Itoje Anywhere near good enough

Scot played very well, but vs Eng they always raise their game for. Can they string 3 games together ? Watson Gray & Hogg All excellent.

Wales struggled vs 14 men AWJ to tour, not sure he’ll make tests.

Ire fantastic effort. Furlong , 5,7,8 12&13 all outstanding.

10 looks a weakness for lions.
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09/02/2021 01:37:02 4 2
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10 most certainly not a weakness
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09/02/2021 01:42:52 5 6
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It's pretty derogatory you all laughing at the Scotland result.

On another site last year I got laughed at for referring to a "resurgent Scotland".

Despite it all being relative.

And when it was realitively a result last weekend
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09/02/2021 01:50:30 1 10
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Pacific Island B team Vs South Africa B team.
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09/02/2021 01:36:36 7 2
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Got to go. Someone needs their boiler repressurized and I'm on nights. Great that after dark rugby fans and not nationalist idiots or around. Thanks fellas.
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09/02/2021 01:53:41 6 1
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Maybe because child labour laws forbid them doing nights!
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09/02/2021 01:53:52 1 8
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George North is Welsh because his nan made them move to Angelsey?
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09/02/2021 08:33:12 2 2
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His mother is from Anglesey, and he moved there aged 2, and he speaks Welsh fluently. You tell him to his face that he isn't Welsh!
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09/02/2021 02:36:58 26 12
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Owen Farrell , very good goal kicker but that is it . He is a very average player , scores very few tries , mainly because of his lack of pace . England have never had an outstanding stand off .
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09/02/2021 02:42:22 7 21
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What a load of s....
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09/02/2021 05:54:56 5 6
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?? Jonny Wilkinson
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09/02/2021 08:01:30 5 2
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His kicking stands at 69% l think not that brilliant! He will need to improve all round during 6N
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09/02/2021 08:45:05 4 2
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From a Welshman: I predict now that come the end of the 6N, Owen Farrell will be not only in the squad but probably pencilled in the Test team. As for outstanding England OHs, what of Wilkinson? Or, further back, Alan Old who I thought was a very underrated number 10.
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09/02/2021 12:14:51 2 1
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Don't forget he's a yellow card waiting to happen. A no arms tackle is never too far away with him
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09/02/2021 12:26:50 0 0
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Er, Jonny Wilkinson? ?????
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09/02/2021 12:35:34 3 0
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More the case that England never select an outstanding fly half. Johnny came closest and had several strings to his bow but was also not a great individual attacking threat.
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09/02/2021 13:19:24 0 0
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Andy Goode. ??
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09/02/2021 16:37:27 0 0
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Oh yes we have! But....he was poorly mentored & his talent never allowed to develop - a young man by the name of Cipriani - best fly half England (or I should say EJ) never picked! Simmonds, Ford & Smith all better than Farrell at 10.
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09/02/2021 19:22:50 0 0
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Had an influential father....nepotism?!
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09/02/2021 19:36:42 1 0
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it is a complete myth that Fazzer is a class kicker, maybe 5 years ago but his goal kicking now is far too inconsistent - do you not remember the French game - he missed more kicks that day than Joe Simmonds does in a season
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09/02/2021 22:25:01 0 0
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fool
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09/02/2021 02:36:58 26 12
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Owen Farrell , very good goal kicker but that is it . He is a very average player , scores very few tries , mainly because of his lack of pace . England have never had an outstanding stand off .
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09/02/2021 02:42:22 7 21
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What a load of s....
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09/02/2021 12:27:49 3 1
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Farrell is probably the worst 10 in the 6 N. Actually I'll re-phrase that - Farrell IS the worst 10 in the 6N, even the Italians have better 10s
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09/02/2021 03:06:11 16 6
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England should wear grey coloured shirts.. The most boring team with the head coach who looks like Zippy from Rainbow.!
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09/02/2021 00:05:29 1 9
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FB’s Hogg, 1/2p, Daly
W. Val de M, LRZ, May, Darcy Gray.
C. North, Henshaw, Ringrose, poss Redpath
FH Russell, Sexton, Biggar.
SH. Youngs, Murray, Webb
P Fagerson, Furlong, Sutherland, Jones, Sinkler
H George, Murray, Owens
SR AWJ, Itoje, J Gray, ?
F. Watson, Curry, Ritchie, Wilson, Tipuric
8. Faletau, Stander, Vunilpola. I
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09/02/2021 03:13:15 2 5
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Youngs, Murray, Webb ? Prefer Davies, Williams, Webb
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09/02/2021 01:09:41 11 1
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For me Tomos looked the real deal at 9 while he was on the pitch. God knows we could do with a descent 9 in the home nations!
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09/02/2021 03:32:20 0 8
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But Teddy Tomos is a winger...and French ...
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09/02/2021 08:06:07 3 1
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Try and keep up!! talk is about Tomos Williams Welsh 9
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09/02/2021 08:33:36 2 1
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Close enough
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09/02/2021 02:36:58 26 12
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Owen Farrell , very good goal kicker but that is it . He is a very average player , scores very few tries , mainly because of his lack of pace . England have never had an outstanding stand off .
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09/02/2021 05:54:56 5 6
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?? Jonny Wilkinson
What a load of shit.

F*ck you all
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09/02/2021 00:58:46 1 11
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Gatland will be worried with the abject lack of talent in all the sides except France. Not sure he can pick Teddy Tomas from France.

Eng - terrible, hard to think of a single player. Maybe Otoje.
Scot - again poor. Maybe back row. Maybe Hogg.
Ire - ringrose was good
Wal - props were decent, about it really

So Warren has about 5 players so far.. he will hope for far more!

Very low on quality.
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09/02/2021 05:58:17 1 2
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I doubt he will be worried at all after 1 round. Plenty not played in a while. Let’s see where we’re at at the end of 6N.
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09/02/2021 06:03:43 2 5
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I’d imagine some of the England players may still have credit in the bank after the World Cup and 2 tournament wins in 2020 but what do I know.

Listening to the experts on here though, only Itoje will go as we saw the best of everyone in 1 match on Saturday apparently.

Might be wrong but sure Gatland will wait until the end of the 6N atleast before deciding.
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09/02/2021 07:05:21 1 2
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Yep exactly what I posted earlier. Way too early to even think of Lions selection, as unfortunately injury as much as form will surely come into play.
Wait until end of tournament, see who has/not played well and who's out through injury.
Then pick.
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09/02/2021 10:33:53 0 2
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I almost think the opposite. I think he's already picked his squad and players are will almost have to play their way out of it. I like the guy but I do think he's got his old favourites rather than relying on who's on form at the time.
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09/02/2021 11:08:35 1 1
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Credit in the bank should not overide form. Without form, sorry, stay home. Has beens will not win the series.
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08/02/2021 22:31:35 24 3
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I've supported England for over 60 years and at the moment would say the neither Farrell, Youngs, B Vinapola or Slade should go on tour with the British Lions. In fact I can think of only 7 England players who currently have the form to go.
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09/02/2021 06:04:53 0 4
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After 1 game? Is that all you’ll allow them? ??
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09/02/2021 09:02:31 5 4
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It's not 1 game. When was the last time any of them put in a performance? Probably the WC SF against the weakest NZ side since 1983. Didn't bother to show up for the final though. Only Itoje is should go on the Lions, depending on whether England have any summer matches. If they do, he shouldn't be picked. Lions can have farrell as a freebee - keep him away from England.
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08/02/2021 22:15:10 1 7
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I think your comment is for “comments sake” to be honest
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09/02/2021 06:06:11 2 3
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I’d say yours is! The comment makes perfect sense. 1st sensible comment I’ve read so far