This stays with you a long time - Jones
06/02/2021 | sport | rugbyunion | 818
Head coach Eddie Jones says England's first home loss to Scotland since 1983 will haunt his side.
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06/02/2021 19:42:14 159 13
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Too right Jones, your selections are poor, lose farrell, youngs, daly.
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06/02/2021 19:58:30 31 4
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Glad it's not just me.
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06/02/2021 21:19:28 15 2
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Spot on. The half backs are suppose to control the attack. All we ever get from 9 and 10 is kick. At fullback we have someone unable to tackle
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-_-
06/02/2021 21:35:19 19 1
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It was all just a bit clueless today especially in attack. Went nowhere then kicked straight to Hogg who then hammered it back.

England have 2 of the best wingers in the world yet they barely saw the ball.
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07/02/2021 08:30:24 16 3
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Farrell can place kick.
He can't play rugby.
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Gaz
07/02/2021 08:49:40 16 1
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This had been coming for a while for anyone willing to acknowledge the signs. Looks like all those dull scraped wins in the autumn and "if we're winning why change?" attitude are going to come back and bite us hard on the a**e!
And Billy Vunipola looks way off the pace as a test no.8.
But well played Scotland you schooled us
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07/02/2021 08:55:50 4 1
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don't forget Billy V he is so out of form at present
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07/02/2021 10:15:27 5 2
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George Ford too - not good enough, we need new blood at fly half and scrum half.
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07/02/2021 10:43:28 0 3
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Hahahahahahahahaha
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07/02/2021 13:48:05 0 0
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Easy to drop but tell us who you replace them with!
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06/02/2021 19:43:16 31 5
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I will believe you when your "pets" are gone.

Simmonds and Spencer in now!
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07/02/2021 11:21:04 0 5
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Have you watched Exeter and Bath recently?
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06/02/2021 19:43:24 3 2
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England ?? MIA
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06/02/2021 19:44:43 8 12
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Feel fo Eddie.

He was badly let down by his players but still protected them by his comments at the end.
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06/02/2021 19:45:28 8 18
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Itoji cost you the game, bin him !
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07/02/2021 01:33:21 3 2
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Bin yourself.
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06/02/2021 19:46:43 21 6
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Great play from Scotland. Nail biting stuff and I'm not even Scottish!
Would be nice if Eddie Jones credited some Scottish determination and creativity though
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06/02/2021 21:44:11 8 5
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Eddie will never compliment the opposition, he was same when Wallabies boss years ago
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06/02/2021 21:52:13 5 3
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He did. Watch the interview. Paid Scotland massive credit
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06/02/2021 19:47:35 7 5
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Time to go. Unacceptable performance and game plan.
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06/02/2021 19:48:45 36 2
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Jones is a good talker - take the blame looks good - time for change

Pick players in Premership who are playing at their best - you have to change and adapt to win - sadly some need to move over for the next generation...
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06/02/2021 20:37:30 2 18
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Premiership looked weak v too 14 and pro14 in Europe.
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m j
06/02/2021 19:48:46 6 5
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He's blown it too many times to continue. Search for a new coach now! Start at Exeter.
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06/02/2021 20:15:15 3 3
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Hmm l wonder Exeter not very adventurous either
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06/02/2021 23:43:25 1 1
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He'd get about 3 games and then the whole of HYS would wail that he should go. Then what?
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06/02/2021 19:49:18 4 3
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So you should Eddie
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06/02/2021 19:50:07 5 15
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Not many taking the knee before the game????? I wonder what would have been said if that was football players??
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06/02/2021 19:53:06 9 6
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Is that all you take from the game ??
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06/02/2021 21:43:28 2 1
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Couldn’t give a toss about football mate.... this is rugby only
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06/02/2021 19:51:08 135 5
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Playing the Sarries boys is wrong. They haven’t played yet this season until today and it showed. Drop the championship players and open your eyes in the premiership, lots of talented players who are match fit.
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06/02/2021 21:10:47 47 5
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Itoje is the exception but otherwise agree.
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06/02/2021 21:38:57 5 2
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Agree Itoje played well that's about it Sarries players understandably off the pace
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06/02/2021 21:55:44 11 1
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If he was to pick players in form for the last 3 months... Like Townsend...half the squad would be different... Odogwu, Smith, Randall, Cowan dickie, Simmonds, Malins, Thorley, Hughes, to name a few
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06/02/2021 22:07:02 5 1
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Maitland showed up alright....
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06/02/2021 22:26:21 8 2
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Oh come on, Puffing Billy had a strenuous run out against the mighty Ealing just the other week
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07/02/2021 00:28:31 9 2
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Can’t blame the Sarries Maitland played well .Farrell at 10 is a liability,to many over the top,can’t remember BV last good game,back line was pedestrian Williams isn’t an international too many good players in the Premiership being ignored and a lot of them are looking at other options to England because it’s harder to be dropped than get in the side this is the guy who said he picks on form?
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07/02/2021 08:21:16 1 1
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Perhaps the sarries boys come as a job lot
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07/02/2021 08:45:19 3 1
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Maitland seemed OK..... ??
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07/02/2021 09:25:39 9 1
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Come on - give the Scots some credit. The stats show they outplayed England in every facet of the game.
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07/02/2021 11:01:26 1 1
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Bang on!
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07/02/2021 12:36:00 0 2
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He has to pick them as they are crypto celebrities and are living on their publicity rather than their ability. Not to worry when england beat the might Italians they will be restored to being hailed world class by the sycophants. jones is a one trick pony and he's been found out
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AJM
06/02/2021 19:51:58 2 6
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SCW and Shaun Edwards
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06/02/2021 19:52:01 13 2
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Scotland and France are moving up through the gears very nicely. Full steam ahead.
England are stuck in reverse gear, and appear to be reversing at a rate of knots. Dreadful performance.
Wales and Ireland. Who knows? Will find out tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
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06/02/2021 19:52:02 46 5
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Little tip Eddie. Read your team the rules/laws of rugby and explain if they transgress they get penalised out of the game. Once they've got that into their heads you can start coaching them how to play the game. Luckily the ref didn't flash the yellow more often for the continual penalty count.
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07/02/2021 06:48:30 11 3
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You're right, but I fear Jones wants them to play that way. Fortunate to get so tolerant a ref on this occasion.
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06/02/2021 19:52:31 72 14
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to say the defeat was down to England failure/bad day at the office is an insult to an outstanding Scottish team, England were not just out played they were out thought with no plan b, c or d when plan a did not work
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06/02/2021 20:46:04 14 2
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Plan A can only come into play when you have the ball.
As for B, C and D............
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06/02/2021 21:57:08 1 1
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Good to see Scotland play well. Shame they saved it for us... Hopefully they can repeat it next week.
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07/02/2021 06:14:29 4 1
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England's only plan seemed to be kick it back to a Scottish player and then concede a penalty..
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07/02/2021 09:28:40 2 1
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Well said about the Scots.
There has never been a plan B / C / D . . . . . . . . . . .
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06/02/2021 19:52:48 11 3
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I was horrified when we went for drop goal at the end. We still try to lose lol. Hopefully do a double and win at Wembley in June
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06/02/2021 22:38:29 2 1
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Indeed.By that time was on your side....bit like Fraser Brown' rush of blood in 2019.
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06/02/2021 19:50:07 5 15
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Not many taking the knee before the game????? I wonder what would have been said if that was football players??
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06/02/2021 19:53:06 9 6
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Is that all you take from the game ??
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06/02/2021 19:55:43 43 7
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Makes your mind games look a bit silly now, doesn't it?
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07/02/2021 05:41:57 1 16
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Which mind games were those, then ?
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07/02/2021 09:31:15 5 2
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Sad little man - just a way of trying to keep himself in the limelight.
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06/02/2021 19:55:48 13 2
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Come in mr Jones your time is up...
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06/02/2021 19:56:07 89 3
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I don't follow club rugby too closely in England (as a Scot) but the fact there were players from Saracens spoke pretty loudly about Scotland's chances of nicking it today.

Scotland played not far from flawless but it could have went either way, fine margins at this level. Not a pro coach but I wouldn't be picking rusty players regardless of their reputation.
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06/02/2021 20:10:21 66 2
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I do follow club rugby and you are spot on. Scots were v good today but Eng were awful. Unfortunately Jones’s player bias means it’s not a meritocracy
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06/02/2021 21:37:52 10 2
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Thoroughly well played to Sco & congrats on the win. Tbh I think Sco were only at 70-80% and left a lot of opportunity for Eng. My disappointment is that as good and dominant as Sco were, they didn't utterly bully Eng or force the mistakes they made, it was more self-inflicted and from a lack of attacking ideas/creativity coupled with our age old gremlin of silly penalties.
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06/02/2021 19:57:13 18 2
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Think Jones was watching a different game never in the races. If you continue to kick the ball to opponents who run it back when you have had little ball. We are devoid of ideas on the pitch and this performance is a continuation of how we performed against France
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06/02/2021 20:05:59 11 2
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Well said. We looked clueless. And I agree, a continuation of the turgid performances in the Autumn.
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06/02/2021 21:59:26 1 1
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I don't understand why we kick the ball away. If its the players playing what's in front of them, change the players. If its the coach telling them, change it. Exit strategy was early to kick everything.. Which we did badly and with no chase. Dreadful.
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Gaz
07/02/2021 10:11:25 0 1
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Absolutely spot on and if we kick away that much possession to France we will be cut to shreds
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06/02/2021 19:57:24 6 4
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JONES SAYS HE WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY;

AND EXACTLY WHY WOULDN'T HE!

SHOCKING
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06/02/2021 19:57:56 123 5
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If you pick a team with 5 players who haven't played any competitive rugby for over two months, you get what you deserve. Your team selection was abysmal as was Englands performance. We have great young players available, but you persist with the old guard and a style of play that is boring and predictable at best. It's time to bring in new blood and build for the future. Inept and embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 20:04:55 90 3
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The team has carried Youngs and Billy for two years now. They occasionally put in a good performance but otherwise undroppable. It creates an old boys culture of mediocrity
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06/02/2021 20:06:21 2 3
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And great players like Faz and Watson (although he didn’t get a sniff tonight) are so off form it’s embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 23:35:22 10 2
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And start at the top with Eddie. Move down one level and the skills coach he's recruited is a 28 year old he got from Jersey RFC.....what????
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07/02/2021 08:47:45 4 1
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I cannot agree more with richjbarlow. I think English rugby has suffered enormously because of Jones' pugnacious attitude which has abandoned exciting innovative rugby for the slow grind of continuous 'up and unders', rucks and mauls. He's always found some reason or other why natural talent has to be replaced with Aussie 'grit'.
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06/02/2021 19:58:11 19 2
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Your fault so quit England have been playing awful rugby since he took charge his obsession with power over subtlety , his blind faith in Farrell -why why why and most importantly his obvious instruction to the team dont concede points give away penalties and total disregard for the laws has ruined the national side , one excellent day v NZ isnt worth it get rid now
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06/02/2021 19:58:11 83 3
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Watching England after France was the ridiculous after the sublime! Dupont must be the best player in the world at the moment but a question - would Jones pick him if he was English? or Ntmack? Dulin? What, when you could play Youngs, Farrell & Daly? Yes, you are responsible, Jones, due to your poor selection as well as preparation. Swallow your ego, accept error & make some good decisions.
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06/02/2021 20:47:18 35 3
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England are so poor creatively that they have to play 2 fly halves when most teams only need one !
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06/02/2021 21:26:08 0 4
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But like Jonny W then
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06/02/2021 19:42:14 159 13
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Too right Jones, your selections are poor, lose farrell, youngs, daly.
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06/02/2021 19:58:30 31 4
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Glad it's not just me.
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07/02/2021 08:55:15 1 2
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Yo're dropped as well.
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06/02/2021 19:58:40 18 3
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You were just outplayed by a team who brought massive intensity. You couldn’t get in the game.

Sarries lads bar Mako looked shattered.

Youngs and Robson kicking was woeful.

Just playing catch up back foot rugby all day. Only 1 team in it 0-80 mins.
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06/02/2021 20:10:31 5 4
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Mako ?
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07/02/2021 09:02:25 1 1
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don't forget the penalty count ?? do England players not know the rules of the game?
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07/02/2021 09:03:00 0 1
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Maitland didn't look shattered.
Gollum needs to go, arrogant clown! Removed
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06/02/2021 20:00:06 84 5
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As a Welsh fella looking on as a rugby fan, it seems to me that EJ keeps faith with players who cannot adjust. OF is overrated at 10 and is not a 12. Ford is a proper 10. Youngs is not a great Scrum Half and Randall should be blooded. EJ should experiment with this against the 6N practice team that is Italy.
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06/02/2021 20:26:42 63 4
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Farrell would not get into a decent French side. He is a place kicker ... that’s it really
Removed
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07/02/2021 21:57:41 1 0
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He is not that great a place kicker - remember the Autumns cup v France. Kept taking them and missing and refused to hand over to somebody else. Not a captain. Also can’t tackle
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06/02/2021 20:00:06 8 3
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Poor Eddie is losing it. Coaches motivate players and if he is.blaming himself the RFU should sack him for not doing his job. Simples really.
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06/02/2021 20:00:19 88 3
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It’s ur job so do the stuff we don’t want to!!
Daly
Billy
Faz
Youngs
Etc
Thanks guys you’ve been legends and had a good crack...
But time to move on/evolve/advance/develop...
Just saying :)
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06/02/2021 20:05:20 42 16
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Dont forget happy Owen! toss-pot
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07/02/2021 00:08:50 7 1
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Playing Youngs at scrum half hardly instills confidence in other (younger) scrum halfs available in building towards 2023. Likewise Vunipola and Farrell; men well past their sell by date.

Best match Hogg has had in a long while and George Turner at hooker played a blinder
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07/02/2021 00:40:18 9 11
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So just to get this right...
You want to get rid of half of the team who aren’t even 30 yet after one poor game? Sums up the generic England supporter who knows barely anything about the game and just shouts at the TV every time the ball is kicked.
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07/02/2021 05:39:35 8 1
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Time and tide wait for no man, evolve or go the way of the dinosaurs.
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06/02/2021 20:01:29 5 13
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Itoji ... should have yellow card in the first 20 mins and a red after half time ....big guy but no finesse !
cost Engerland big time
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06/02/2021 20:11:35 5 13
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Maybe with no one in the crowd he has finally been pinged by referees and are not influenced by the Sweet Chariot supporters. Been at it for years and those who have been peddling him as a Lions captain are oblivious to his consistent failings.
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07/02/2021 01:32:57 1 2
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And yet Clive Woodward said he was majestic. Thank god you were here to add an informed view.
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06/02/2021 20:03:19 67 4
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This debacle has been brewing for a while...from selection to tactics Jones has got everything wrong. Anyone who watches the Prem knows that he backs guys who are off form or inconsistent at test level.

If this doesn’t cause Jones to go back to the drawing board nothing will. He can start by picking guys who are in form like LCD.

Separately well done Scotland - an excellent game.
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07/02/2021 09:46:51 16 10
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South Africa are indeed, England's Bogey Team!
After 4 decades, Scotland have figured out that to beat England, they must first become South African.
Very clever! Well done Scotland.
PS - Is Eddie Jones the Jose Mourinho if world rugby?
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07/02/2021 12:04:57 2 1
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.......maybe England need some Saffers too based on the performance!
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06/02/2021 19:57:56 123 5
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If you pick a team with 5 players who haven't played any competitive rugby for over two months, you get what you deserve. Your team selection was abysmal as was Englands performance. We have great young players available, but you persist with the old guard and a style of play that is boring and predictable at best. It's time to bring in new blood and build for the future. Inept and embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 20:04:55 90 3
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The team has carried Youngs and Billy for two years now. They occasionally put in a good performance but otherwise undroppable. It creates an old boys culture of mediocrity
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06/02/2021 22:01:29 18 1
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Did we notice when Billy was binned? I mean he did nothing on the pitch or off it. His ship has sailed. Hughes or Simmonds or Wilson
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06/02/2021 22:49:04 13 1
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It's also carrying Farrell. Useless today
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06/02/2021 20:05:08 41 11
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It’s time to go Eddie...
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06/02/2021 20:00:19 88 3
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It’s ur job so do the stuff we don’t want to!!
Daly
Billy
Faz
Youngs
Etc
Thanks guys you’ve been legends and had a good crack...
But time to move on/evolve/advance/develop...
Just saying :)
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06/02/2021 20:05:20 42 16
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Dont forget happy Owen! toss-pot
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06/02/2021 20:56:33 9 2
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That’s Faz I believe.
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06/02/2021 20:05:39 2 3
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If Saracens players are the best going then the way they played today suggests that promotion from the Championship is a pipedream.
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06/02/2021 19:57:13 18 2
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Think Jones was watching a different game never in the races. If you continue to kick the ball to opponents who run it back when you have had little ball. We are devoid of ideas on the pitch and this performance is a continuation of how we performed against France
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06/02/2021 20:05:59 11 2
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Well said. We looked clueless. And I agree, a continuation of the turgid performances in the Autumn.
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06/02/2021 20:06:15 49 8
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I hope this game isn't remembered for England being bad- Scotland were as good as England were bad and deserved to win 25-6 at least- a losing bonus point is a joke!
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06/02/2021 20:25:23 24 3
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Scotland great England awful
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06/02/2021 23:37:56 3 5
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I disagree. I realise people want to wail hysterically about how all the players were awful but England's defence was strong today & kept the score down, which is why they have the bonus point. And one of the kicks - the pen given against Ellis Genge that was perfectly legal - shouldn't have been given.
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07/02/2021 10:21:12 0 1
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At least? Definately!!!
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07/02/2021 10:29:26 1 1
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They didn’t and that probably sums up why Scotland are a mediocre team . A good side with that much possession would have put a undercooked / not firing team to the sword . Might be another 30+ years before England are that bad again .
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06/02/2021 19:57:56 123 5
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If you pick a team with 5 players who haven't played any competitive rugby for over two months, you get what you deserve. Your team selection was abysmal as was Englands performance. We have great young players available, but you persist with the old guard and a style of play that is boring and predictable at best. It's time to bring in new blood and build for the future. Inept and embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 20:06:21 2 3
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And great players like Faz and Watson (although he didn’t get a sniff tonight) are so off form it’s embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 20:47:57 20 2
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Farrell is not a great player
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06/02/2021 20:08:14 3 2
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So you should, you don't know who your best players are or the tactics that should be employed
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06/02/2021 20:09:32 39 2
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Those Saracens players looked very lack lustre
Time to move on without them
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06/02/2021 20:25:03 17 3
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Thank you Nigel Wray
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07/02/2021 22:47:16 0 0
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Only one player turned up, a Sarries player.
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06/02/2021 19:56:07 89 3
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I don't follow club rugby too closely in England (as a Scot) but the fact there were players from Saracens spoke pretty loudly about Scotland's chances of nicking it today.

Scotland played not far from flawless but it could have went either way, fine margins at this level. Not a pro coach but I wouldn't be picking rusty players regardless of their reputation.
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06/02/2021 20:10:21 66 2
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I do follow club rugby and you are spot on. Scots were v good today but Eng were awful. Unfortunately Jones’s player bias means it’s not a meritocracy
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06/02/2021 20:26:53 0 22
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Still talking to yourself, very disturbing.
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06/02/2021 19:58:40 18 3
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You were just outplayed by a team who brought massive intensity. You couldn’t get in the game.

Sarries lads bar Mako looked shattered.

Youngs and Robson kicking was woeful.

Just playing catch up back foot rugby all day. Only 1 team in it 0-80 mins.
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06/02/2021 20:10:31 5 4
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Mako ?
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06/02/2021 21:13:33 2 1
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Maro! Typo
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06/02/2021 20:10:54 9 10
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Maybe time Eddie realised his pre match shit talk doesn't cut it any more. The game is won or lost on the pitch. Englands years of cynical grubbiness has been found wanting today, I hope it's the start of a total collapse. It's no less than he and they deserve.
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06/02/2021 20:11:10 19 4
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Almost predictable Eddie would say it was a bad day in the office. We have had too many of them recently and snuck a win. Time for some major changes to the team but I’m afraid EJ’s arrogance won’t allow that!
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06/02/2021 20:01:29 5 13
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Itoji ... should have yellow card in the first 20 mins and a red after half time ....big guy but no finesse !
cost Engerland big time
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06/02/2021 20:11:35 5 13
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Maybe with no one in the crowd he has finally been pinged by referees and are not influenced by the Sweet Chariot supporters. Been at it for years and those who have been peddling him as a Lions captain are oblivious to his consistent failings.
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06/02/2021 20:12:41 11 5
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Just go - you are arrogant and stubborn and this is the just the latest in a long decline since the ABs game in the 2019 RWC. We are losing an opportunity with this coach and his selections.
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06/02/2021 20:13:46 6 2
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Be interesting to see if Jones makes necessary changes. Scotland were excellent and deserved win but Eng were woeful. Itoje and Curry apart most were average at best and some - Youngs, Farrell, Daley were awful. Can't though see wholesale changes.
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06/02/2021 20:24:26 17 2
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Farrell is a manufactured player. Cant tackle properly, tactical kicking awful, no attacking spark hence Ford having to play. He would never play for France or NZ ... I don’t get the hype
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m j
06/02/2021 19:48:46 6 5
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He's blown it too many times to continue. Search for a new coach now! Start at Exeter.
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06/02/2021 20:15:15 3 3
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Hmm l wonder Exeter not very adventurous either
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06/02/2021 20:15:23 5 8
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England seem to have a problem preparing, rwc final, autumn cup final, Scotland. Why do they seem to act like it’s already won before kick off?
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06/02/2021 20:55:27 6 1
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Too cocky.... what possessed Jamie George to say England will rip teams apart ?

He was owned today by a debutant Turner
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06/02/2021 20:15:32 14 2
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It wasn’t really a chance to win at the end Eddie. They were still about 40 yards from the Scotland line, it was just possession.
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06/02/2021 21:45:02 2 1
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Exactly. I missed this chance as well.
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06/02/2021 20:16:03 9 3
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We will never win a World Cup with Eddie in charge
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06/02/2021 20:18:46 2 12
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England kick the ball = Scotland get possession = England give away penalty x repeat = Scotland win. Really poor tactics from England, yet again no plan B. Sad, but referee had biggest impact on the game.
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06/02/2021 20:19:09 6 3
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Think the question is, are England as good as as they think they are
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06/02/2021 20:21:18 9 1
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No but they are not as bad as today either. They lost to better team on day, it happens. Learn and move on.
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06/02/2021 20:20:31 6 4
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Just watched Jones interview and fair play he took it on the chin and fronted up. No excuses, Scotland were better and out played ENG all areas.
Everyone criticizes him but he doesn't deflect blame or responsibility.
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06/02/2021 20:54:09 5 2
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Rubbish Steve, selection is a joke and Eddie should of blooded new players after RWC...

...you can’t seriously tell me Ben Youngs is the best 9, LCD is clearly your best hooker, Genge is not a test prop, the best he’s ever done is coming off the bench once the graft has been done
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06/02/2021 21:07:45 1 1
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Sack him as manager then and make it press spokesperson.
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06/02/2021 20:19:09 6 3
bbc
Think the question is, are England as good as as they think they are
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06/02/2021 20:21:18 9 1
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No but they are not as bad as today either. They lost to better team on day, it happens. Learn and move on.
59
06/02/2021 20:22:36 5 5
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England should break the bank and get Pat Lamb and Shaun Edwards ASAP
68
06/02/2021 20:27:50 2 2
bbc
Absolutely hit the nail on the head ... but I would like to see Pat back at his Falcons family home ... selfish I know
89
06/02/2021 20:44:15 2 1
bbc
The Edwards boat sailed a long time ago, besides our defence was in general very good today.
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06/02/2021 20:46:15 0 1
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Image being Welsh MD letting Edwards go, why a mistake that was.... is
60
06/02/2021 20:22:37 11 3
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Eddie Jones talks a big game and lives off Japan besting a weak South African team. That was a shambles and England have gone backwards and backwards. 60 mins to get the ball into the hands of the outside centre.
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07/02/2021 02:18:12 7 3
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A 3-0 test series in Aus, 3 6N in 5 years, a RWC final - guess he lives off those as well.
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06/02/2021 20:13:46 6 2
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Be interesting to see if Jones makes necessary changes. Scotland were excellent and deserved win but Eng were woeful. Itoje and Curry apart most were average at best and some - Youngs, Farrell, Daley were awful. Can't though see wholesale changes.
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06/02/2021 20:24:26 17 2
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Farrell is a manufactured player. Cant tackle properly, tactical kicking awful, no attacking spark hence Ford having to play. He would never play for France or NZ ... I don’t get the hype
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06/02/2021 21:40:33 2 2
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Farrell wouldn’t get a game for Ystradgynlais 3rds...

And they can’t play due to Covid ??
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06/02/2021 20:09:32 39 2
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Those Saracens players looked very lack lustre
Time to move on without them
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06/02/2021 20:25:03 17 3
bbc
Thank you Nigel Wray
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06/02/2021 20:06:15 49 8
bbc
I hope this game isn't remembered for England being bad- Scotland were as good as England were bad and deserved to win 25-6 at least- a losing bonus point is a joke!
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06/02/2021 20:25:23 24 3
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Scotland great England awful
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06/02/2021 20:25:34 15 2
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Seems odd to me that he chose so many sarries players who haven’t played all season rather than pick on form, Farrell was awful and attack was non-existent
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06/02/2021 20:26:30 4 2
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Eddie, Scotland did have 75% of possession because we kept kicking the ball the to them to run back. Even in attack in their half we kicked. So much talent out wide please look to use them.
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06/02/2021 20:43:04 1 1
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We didn't exactly make much progress when we ran at them, their defence was excellent.
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06/02/2021 20:00:06 84 5
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As a Welsh fella looking on as a rugby fan, it seems to me that EJ keeps faith with players who cannot adjust. OF is overrated at 10 and is not a 12. Ford is a proper 10. Youngs is not a great Scrum Half and Randall should be blooded. EJ should experiment with this against the 6N practice team that is Italy.
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06/02/2021 20:26:42 63 4
bbc
Farrell would not get into a decent French side. He is a place kicker ... that’s it really
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07/02/2021 07:47:07 3 1
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Farrell at times is just a token name/brand without the rugby skills to back it up. I'd be happy with him on the bench these days as a sub, he is past his best.
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07/02/2021 10:19:41 6 1
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I'm English. but live in France.France have better 10s (Three at the last count)and better 12s, non merci Farrell. England would do well to get their hands on Edwards, their's a passionate Englishman with an amazing record in both club and International Rugby. Wales agree and for sure France do. The French players love working with him. Not England top brass perhaps, too straight talking.
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06/02/2021 20:10:21 66 2
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I do follow club rugby and you are spot on. Scots were v good today but Eng were awful. Unfortunately Jones’s player bias means it’s not a meritocracy
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06/02/2021 20:26:53 0 22
bbc
Still talking to yourself, very disturbing.
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06/02/2021 20:22:36 5 5
bbc
England should break the bank and get Pat Lamb and Shaun Edwards ASAP
68
06/02/2021 20:27:50 2 2
bbc
Absolutely hit the nail on the head ... but I would like to see Pat back at his Falcons family home ... selfish I know
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06/02/2021 20:28:29 1 2
bbc
Philo

Spot on comment ??????
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06/02/2021 20:29:22 2 1
bbc
England looked asleep from the Anthem onwards.
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06/02/2021 21:08:25 4 1
bbc
To be fair, I always follow asleep in the anthem. Pretty boring anthem. Slightly more rousing than the Japanese anthem maybe, but one of the worst.
71
06/02/2021 20:31:02 0 8
bbc
Utterly embarrassing. The sooner England get rid of Jones and offer Rob Baxter a king's ransom to take over, the better.
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06/02/2021 20:43:28 2 1
bbc
Baxter !!! Please no,no,no, no .
72
06/02/2021 20:33:01 30 5
bbc
Only saw the last ten mins.. then post match analysis. As an English man, I’m pleased to see Scotland win. Looked well deserved. Hope they can stay at this level for years to come.
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06/02/2021 20:34:38 7 1
bbc
I thought it really showed that the Saracens boys had not played any meaningful rugby as they were well off the pace. They were slow and off the pace.
261
07/02/2021 05:51:38 3 3
bbc
Sean maitland had a great game....funny that!!
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Gaz
07/02/2021 10:15:21 0 1
bbc
Billy Vunipola has been off the pace for ages. Time to go
74
06/02/2021 20:34:56 13 4
bbc
I’m 35. I’ve watched Scotland get flustered for years. Never have I seen them have so many problems yet solve them all. Itoje was all over price - but they sorted it out. Turner couldn’t throw into a line out - yet he did. Russell yellow card and yet no points conceded. Superb - and all the England fans - the excuses are?????????????
78
06/02/2021 20:37:34 19 3
bbc
No excuses, Scotland were better team on day, Eng woeful.
Enjoy the win.
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06/02/2021 20:37:45 5 1
bbc
No excuses just a bad day and well beaten by a more enthusiastic side. Well played Scotland.
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06/02/2021 20:35:27 47 2
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England have flattered to deceive for a while now.Stuttered to a Late Nations league win over a depleted france team and a lot of us have been saying for ages there is far too much hand to boot rugby being played.Lethal to kick the ball back to the Scots with the likes of Hogg waiting for the ball to come back almost immediately at every play.Such a waste of all the talented pace in the backs.
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07/02/2021 10:01:18 5 9
bbc
England are and have always been, purveyors of Yawn Rugby.
The English game is, sadly, what has evolved rugby union from the exciting, free flowing, running and passing game of its first 100 years, into this dull, big hitting, armour-wearing hybrid of NFL and Rugby League, that it is today.
Title will be between France and South Africa, whoops, I meant Scotland this year.
Here's to running rugby!
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07/02/2021 10:29:24 2 1
bbc
Agreed, and stop the box kicking by Youngs which achieved nothing but giving away possession and as you say preventing the backs from any hope of showing their talents.
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06/02/2021 20:36:53 14 2
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Eddie is a dinosaur of a coach. The game has moved on and so should Eddie. The RFU should pay Pat Lam whatever money he wants to take over and then we might see some decent rugby.
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06/02/2021 20:41:45 2 9
bbc
Have your knees stopped jerking yet ?
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06/02/2021 19:48:45 36 2
bbc
Jones is a good talker - take the blame looks good - time for change

Pick players in Premership who are playing at their best - you have to change and adapt to win - sadly some need to move over for the next generation...
77
06/02/2021 20:37:30 2 18
bbc
Premiership looked weak v too 14 and pro14 in Europe.
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06/02/2021 23:35:58 2 1
bbc
?
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07/02/2021 11:15:31 1 1
bbc
Sorry who are the current European Champions ?
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07/02/2021 20:20:32 0 0
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yes to who are Champions Cup Pro 14 protected League for the Irish Provinces but even they fall short occassionally worry is new player gets picked to start has a new hair do and gets only 1 pass in the match not good decision making or planning
74
06/02/2021 20:34:56 13 4
bbc
I’m 35. I’ve watched Scotland get flustered for years. Never have I seen them have so many problems yet solve them all. Itoje was all over price - but they sorted it out. Turner couldn’t throw into a line out - yet he did. Russell yellow card and yet no points conceded. Superb - and all the England fans - the excuses are?????????????
78
06/02/2021 20:37:34 19 3
bbc
No excuses, Scotland were better team on day, Eng woeful.
Enjoy the win.
74
06/02/2021 20:34:56 13 4
bbc
I’m 35. I’ve watched Scotland get flustered for years. Never have I seen them have so many problems yet solve them all. Itoje was all over price - but they sorted it out. Turner couldn’t throw into a line out - yet he did. Russell yellow card and yet no points conceded. Superb - and all the England fans - the excuses are?????????????
79
06/02/2021 20:37:45 5 1
bbc
No excuses just a bad day and well beaten by a more enthusiastic side. Well played Scotland.
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06/02/2021 20:42:46 6 7
bbc
How is an England player lacking in enthusiasm? Maybe because half are imports ? “When did you first dream of playing for England Manu?” “When I realised they paid more”
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06/02/2021 20:38:10 2 1
bbc
How he has remained in position is beyond me.
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06/02/2021 20:49:55 2 1
bbc
RFU are skint and stupidly extended Eddies deal...

..they can’t afford to sack him.... to rub it in he’s an advisor to other nations as well
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Joe
06/02/2021 20:38:53 1 4
bbc
Hey, at least on the plus side Bath lost. They should have gone the same way as Sarries did last season. Only downside was it was against Quins and Marcus Smith faked a blood injury (some things never change eh)
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06/02/2021 20:40:53 1 7
bbc
Not up for it from the first minute . England looked lethargic and rusty - particularly the Saracens boys who have played bugger all rugby . Several sarries world class but they were completely off the pace today . Well done jocks but may have to wait another 30 plus years before it happens again . !!!!!
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06/02/2021 20:44:37 7 1
bbc
I guess that’s what happens when you get relegated for cheating
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06/02/2021 20:48:54 1 1
bbc
World class !

I hate that stupid expression

Not that long ago Nick Iseweike and Nathan Earle were ‘world class’ as well, where are they now

Sarries era is over so move on with fresh players
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06/02/2021 21:07:13 0 1
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Great comment until the last couple of words. Sore loser, suck it up!
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06/02/2021 20:36:53 14 2
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Eddie is a dinosaur of a coach. The game has moved on and so should Eddie. The RFU should pay Pat Lam whatever money he wants to take over and then we might see some decent rugby.
83
06/02/2021 20:41:45 2 9
bbc
Have your knees stopped jerking yet ?
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06/02/2021 20:42:37 30 9
bbc
Leave Eddie alone he is doing a great job.
May his style of coaching continue.
The other nations are loving it.
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07/02/2021 02:16:33 9 16
bbc
Are the nations that he's beaten loving it? Because there's a lot of them.
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06/02/2021 20:42:40 2 3
bbc
Please go, Jones
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06/02/2021 20:37:45 5 1
bbc
No excuses just a bad day and well beaten by a more enthusiastic side. Well played Scotland.
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06/02/2021 20:42:46 6 7
bbc
How is an England player lacking in enthusiasm? Maybe because half are imports ? “When did you first dream of playing for England Manu?” “When I realised they paid more”
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BBB
06/02/2021 20:51:36 1 1
bbc
Manu was not playing! I take your point though most ountries seem to do it
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07/02/2021 07:53:30 2 2
bbc
Or maybe: “As I was growing up, playing school and youth rugby in England.”
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07/02/2021 21:53:05 0 0
bbc
I think Manu Tuilagi has been in England longer than the Scotland try scorer has been in Scotland. But your petty comment aside the key point here is Scotland played a clever if wasteful game and deserved to win by far more than they did. Well done Scotland - kudos.
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06/02/2021 20:26:30 4 2
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Eddie, Scotland did have 75% of possession because we kept kicking the ball the to them to run back. Even in attack in their half we kicked. So much talent out wide please look to use them.
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06/02/2021 20:43:04 1 1
bbc
We didn't exactly make much progress when we ran at them, their defence was excellent.
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06/02/2021 20:31:02 0 8
bbc
Utterly embarrassing. The sooner England get rid of Jones and offer Rob Baxter a king's ransom to take over, the better.
88
06/02/2021 20:43:28 2 1
bbc
Baxter !!! Please no,no,no, no .
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06/02/2021 20:22:36 5 5
bbc
England should break the bank and get Pat Lamb and Shaun Edwards ASAP
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06/02/2021 20:44:15 2 1
bbc
The Edwards boat sailed a long time ago, besides our defence was in general very good today.
82
06/02/2021 20:40:53 1 7
bbc
Not up for it from the first minute . England looked lethargic and rusty - particularly the Saracens boys who have played bugger all rugby . Several sarries world class but they were completely off the pace today . Well done jocks but may have to wait another 30 plus years before it happens again . !!!!!
90
06/02/2021 20:44:37 7 1
bbc
I guess that’s what happens when you get relegated for cheating
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Joe
06/02/2021 20:50:24 0 1
bbc
Maybe they should leave the Premiership at 12 teams next season but include Ealing and not Saracens or Harlequins who both have cheated embedded in their cultures
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06/02/2021 20:44:41 0 1
bbc
A truly awful performance by England . Never looked like scoring a try and conceded far too many penalties . Must do much better than this . Well played Scotland.
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06/02/2021 20:45:31 13 1
bbc
Still confused why they social distanced at the anthems then got into a scrum together
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06/02/2021 20:50:18 3 2
bbc
Maybe the players don't sing in the scrums, in which case it may be safe !
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06/02/2021 19:52:31 72 14
bbc
to say the defeat was down to England failure/bad day at the office is an insult to an outstanding Scottish team, England were not just out played they were out thought with no plan b, c or d when plan a did not work
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06/02/2021 20:46:04 14 2
bbc
Plan A can only come into play when you have the ball.
As for B, C and D............
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06/02/2021 23:37:32 2 1
bbc
Surely part of "Plan A" is to get the ball?
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06/02/2021 20:22:36 5 5
bbc
England should break the bank and get Pat Lamb and Shaun Edwards ASAP
94
06/02/2021 20:46:15 0 1
bbc
Image being Welsh MD letting Edwards go, why a mistake that was.... is
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06/02/2021 19:58:11 83 3
bbc
Watching England after France was the ridiculous after the sublime! Dupont must be the best player in the world at the moment but a question - would Jones pick him if he was English? or Ntmack? Dulin? What, when you could play Youngs, Farrell & Daly? Yes, you are responsible, Jones, due to your poor selection as well as preparation. Swallow your ego, accept error & make some good decisions.
95
06/02/2021 20:47:18 35 3
bbc
England are so poor creatively that they have to play 2 fly halves when most teams only need one !
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06/02/2021 20:56:54 9 1
bbc
Agreed. But why do they keep kicking the ball to the opposition after fighting hard to get it?
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07/02/2021 08:42:47 0 2
bbc
france needed two
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06/02/2021 20:47:25 35 1
bbc
Why doesn’t Eddie cut the umbilical cord with Sarries ?

It’s obvious only Maro turned up from that lot....
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06/02/2021 20:54:40 18 1
bbc
Absolubtely. If you pick players that have not been playing this is what happens. A third of the starters hadn't played top flight rugby for 5 months. Time to freshen up the squad with match fit players.
225
06/02/2021 23:42:34 6 4
bbc
And he gave away a third of the penalties on his own- Lions captain? not a chance, he shouldn't have stayed on the field!
656
07/02/2021 12:48:18 0 0
bbc
too scared to do that, much like Ericsson with the celebrity footballers he kept picking
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07/02/2021 15:41:28 0 0
bbc
Maitland turned up from Sarries!
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06/02/2021 20:06:21 2 3
bbc
And great players like Faz and Watson (although he didn’t get a sniff tonight) are so off form it’s embarrassing.
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06/02/2021 20:47:57 20 2
bbc
Farrell is not a great player
82
06/02/2021 20:40:53 1 7
bbc
Not up for it from the first minute . England looked lethargic and rusty - particularly the Saracens boys who have played bugger all rugby . Several sarries world class but they were completely off the pace today . Well done jocks but may have to wait another 30 plus years before it happens again . !!!!!
98
06/02/2021 20:48:54 1 1
bbc
World class !

I hate that stupid expression

Not that long ago Nick Iseweike and Nathan Earle were ‘world class’ as well, where are they now

Sarries era is over so move on with fresh players
99
06/02/2021 20:48:56 2 3
bbc
Good to see "scummy" Jones beaten
80
06/02/2021 20:38:10 2 1
bbc
How he has remained in position is beyond me.
100
06/02/2021 20:49:55 2 1
bbc
RFU are skint and stupidly extended Eddies deal...

..they can’t afford to sack him.... to rub it in he’s an advisor to other nations as well