Coronavirus: Motorists 'turned back' at Irish border
08/02/2021 | news | world | 2,310
People crossing the Irish border without "a reasonable excuse" can be fined €100 (£88) from Monday.
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08/02/2021 10:41:10 11 24
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This is of course the fault of Brexit and Westminster Tories, right?
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08/02/2021 11:53:52 3 6
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Right first time
08/02/2021 23:47:13 0 0
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Yup
For not enforcing the border down the Irish Sea
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08/02/2021 10:42:21 336 225
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So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
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08/02/2021 10:44:37 204 210
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Punishment?

Stop whining.
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08/02/2021 10:47:22 52 23
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Yes unfortunately they broadsided their own credibility... all of them.

Four years of 'No, No, No' followed by 'Actually, yes'.

And 'Irish' Joe Biden actually has twice as much English heritage than Irish, He doesn't bang on about that side of his genetic family, does he?
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 26 25
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Shame we don't have some control on our borders.
But with Patel and Johnson in charge it's the inevitable shambles.
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08/02/2021 10:50:03 44 46
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I checked, it’s Britain, I am British not Brexish please don’t attach your political interest to my nationality.

Oh and Brexit is an abomination and anyone who wants to punish it internally or otherwise is fine by me.
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08/02/2021 11:03:54 27 22
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Oh god. You won. Get over it.
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08/02/2021 11:21:02 31 5
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there's no border between Manchester and Leeds but you still can't travel between the two.
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08/02/2021 11:31:18 22 4
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At the moment stopping the spread of Covid is the priority.
Same fines for crossing a county border in Scotland.
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xlr
08/02/2021 11:42:00 23 25
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Brexiteers still have no clue, news at 10
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08/02/2021 11:57:25 5 4
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But this isn't, is it. Are you trying to stir dissent or are you genuinelt stupid?
Sigh

Yes another Brexit voter who completly failed to understand the article so i will explain it to him

Ireland have a sensible law stating that you cannot travel more then 5km from your home to help stop the spread of the virus

The UK does not (even last month boris was caught cycling 7km from his home)

Dont try to create friction where none exists my boy!!!
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08/02/2021 15:14:16 11 2
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You are deliberately conflating Brexit with pandemic controls. Not related. Other countries in and outside the EU are controlling borders, and they are not Brexit related either. You even bring "Pelosi" into it. So you are obviously a troll from the Troll Farm.
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08/02/2021 15:59:52 1 0
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Essential travel is allowed.
08/02/2021 16:39:15 3 0
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Whilst restricting movements on the island of Ireland (or anywhere else for that matter) is certainly not ideal, the travel restrictions are in place across the whole island. Nobody is allowed to travel more than 5km within the state - by that logic the fines aren’t really anything to do with the GFA.
08/02/2021 16:51:22 2 3
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Big chip on your shoulder?
08/02/2021 16:58:34 3 1
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you are wrong and you are stirring

you are amongst the first to scream about airport access and foreign travel
the Irish government is concerned about people
mostly Irish people
accessing airports so as to dodge holiday restrictions
08/02/2021 17:01:55 2 2
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simply enforcing the same 5km limit to everyone in the country, if you are crossing the border in either direction without good reason then you are flouting the rules of both juristiction, if there is good reason, there is no problem... that prob doesnt suit your narrative though
08/02/2021 17:14:35 2 3
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So now Ireland is not allowed to protect their own borders during a pandemic without it becoming some kind of slight on post Brexit UK? How dare they take steps to protect their own country without the express permission of Boris and his army of Little Englander xenophobes. The nerve of these bloody foreigners, doing whats best for their own country rather than for the UK!
08/02/2021 17:20:54 1 1
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120 blinkered hypocrites down voted you and counting.
08/02/2021 17:45:13 1 0
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Well said, and will be hypocrites for evermore.
08/02/2021 17:45:30 1 1
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but it was the easiest deal ever, we held all the cards, they needed us more than we needed them...
08/02/2021 18:06:10 1 0
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Dumb comment. Nothing to do with an Irish border. It is preventing unnecessary travel. If you stop your own people going more than a few miles from home why would you allow all and sundry to waltz in from an area with less restrictions. It's no different to police enforcing lockdown rules here, at county borders as has already happened
08/02/2021 20:07:34 0 2
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Not correct.
Ireland are simply enforcing their covid rules. Further more U.K. citizens which Northern Ireland claim to be , aren’t allowed to leave the country anyway at present. Can’t have it both ways.
08/02/2021 20:24:20 0 2
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No marks out of ten.
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08/02/2021 10:42:45 644 87
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Nobody should be going anywhere unless it is for essential purposes, wherever you live in the UK.
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08/02/2021 10:56:48 428 222
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All nations should introduce the 5km limit, it is ridiculous that this wasn't introduced from the start.

It would certainly have made the Cumming's affair a slam dunk.
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08/02/2021 11:17:13 52 63
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Enough of keeping people prisoners, if you don't like it, stay in,
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08/02/2021 11:18:22 18 7
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Agreed, but nothing is in stone and with vast amounts of people going work and back its impossible to police. Hence, people just go here there and everywhere if they choose to.
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PCS
08/02/2021 11:21:57 59 69
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So what was Bojo's trip to Scotland about! He should have been fined!
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08/02/2021 11:28:01 4 17
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What's happens if you don't believe it?
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08/02/2021 11:36:17 8 24
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Incorrect. Many citizens of Northern Ireland have an EU Irish Passport - so why on earth can't they travel across the border into Ireland when they wish?
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08/02/2021 12:03:22 4 10
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The BBC making a drama where there is no issue to address.
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ray
08/02/2021 12:13:25 1 8
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Yeh but whats the point. Rules are for fools. Keep calm and carry on as normal.
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08/02/2021 10:42:48 186 31
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This is covid control the same as is happening across Kent
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08/02/2021 11:52:59 99 90
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I didn't realise there was an international border across Kent.
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08/02/2021 12:25:34 6 11
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Sorry - just where is the international border in Kent? And if there were one would there have been insistence on keeping it open at great cost to the rest of the UK?
08/02/2021 17:36:54 1 1
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same as when the foot and mouth was rife now it's foot in mouth from the usual rabble rousing unionist / loyalist mouthpieces
08/02/2021 17:42:20 7 1
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We shouldn't be crossing county boundaries in Great Britain.

The same applies to Ireland.
08/02/2021 18:17:54 1 1
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Covid Control to Major Tom.
Have your Jab and put your Face Mask On.
08/02/2021 20:50:45 0 0
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There is no GFA covering Kent
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08/02/2021 10:43:13 31 12
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Should have had an all island approach to tackle the virus from the start
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08/02/2021 10:46:05 30 50
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Should have an All Ireland just Re unite the 32
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08/02/2021 11:10:46 5 1
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That goes for Britain too.
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jon
08/02/2021 10:43:57 13 14
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Scotland banned travel with England long ago. Notwithstanding the sensitivities around the GFA and daily cross border trade (milk) why were the Irish so slow?
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08/02/2021 10:52:14 6 6
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Not true.

Don't spread false news and hate.
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08/02/2021 11:32:55 1 1
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It is officially 'banned' but there is almost no enforcement.
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08/02/2021 10:44:29 0 11
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Pleased to see you one of the few to trust BOJO
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08/02/2021 10:42:21 336 225
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So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
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08/02/2021 10:44:37 204 210
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Punishment?

Stop whining.
He isn't whining .. just pointing out the absurd hypocrisy of the Sinn Fein-Dublin-EU.

I doubt it makes the slightest difference to his everyday life.

PS Apt moniker BTW .. "Bonehead" .....

:-D
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08/02/2021 11:52:13 7 6
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You are well named if you cannot recognise hypocrisy when you see it.
08/02/2021 16:41:17 3 0
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Your well named!
08/02/2021 17:46:56 2 0
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Bonehead.........Very apt
08/02/2021 19:15:19 3 0
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The EU making up the riles as they go along. We did well to leave.
08/02/2021 20:55:04 2 0
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Not whining, pointing out an inconvenient set of facts to hypocrites like you.
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08/02/2021 10:45:11 13 8
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There either is a border or there isn't, come on make your mind up..Anyone would think they were two completely separate countries are some fink.
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08/02/2021 11:37:38 2 4
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Imagine there's no countries.......
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08/02/2021 11:53:05 1 1
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Politically, they are.
Just as countries in Europe are.
Geographically, they are not.
Unless we build new " Berlin walls".
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08/02/2021 10:45:11 6 10
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Where does the fine money go The Garda starting gathering their Christmas money early
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08/02/2021 10:45:58 8 9
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So the GFA also stands for the:

Global Flu Association
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08/02/2021 10:43:13 31 12
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Should have had an all island approach to tackle the virus from the start
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08/02/2021 10:46:05 30 50
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Should have an All Ireland just Re unite the 32
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08/02/2021 11:06:02 10 7
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Could also say a united British Isles as well if you want to go that far. No doubt the Barnett formula would have given the Irish as much as Brussels has in the past
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08/02/2021 11:07:15 7 7
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Any primary maths student knows, 6 into 26 won't go?
08/02/2021 21:25:55 2 1
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Feel free to have a referendum on it - ah, the Irish Government don't want one. I wonder why?
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08/02/2021 10:46:56 59 4
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This is just window dressing, there are hundreds of crossing points into Donegal alone.
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08/02/2021 11:32:34 44 10
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Absolutely.

Although I have no time for the GFA nonsense, what is clear is that actually enforcing the RoI/NI border for anything is impossible.
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08/02/2021 12:01:02 4 0
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Maybe they're hoping SOME people are intelligent enough to follow the rules?
08/02/2021 18:43:47 1 0
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I guess it doesn't matter how many crossing points there is, as one would have thought that which ever side of the border you are on, your car registration plate would draw attention.
08/02/2021 20:26:07 0 3
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Do you think you may have missed the point there old bean?
I travel from the Republic into Norn Iron because shopping is much much cheaper. Going to Superquinn in Sutton Cross feels like being robbed. Even UK Waitrose feels like Lidl if you compare these two. With FX rate so close NI seems like a bargain. Nevermind the petrol. .... And alcohol. Good Lord. Alcohol. So cheap in NI.
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08/02/2021 11:23:51 25 30
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Yeah - alcohol is cheap - but we also got snarlene, flegory, the flasher, the eternal traveller etc her so we need something to stay sane....
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08/02/2021 16:30:46 0 0
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Hasn't been a Superquinn in Sutton Cross since 2014. Are you thinking of SuperValu, by chance?
08/02/2021 17:34:12 9 0
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Ah, so now I understand why the Tea-shop over-played his hand in the Brexit negotiations - no, no, we all knew the "GFA" was nothing to do with it. I thought it was because he realised the RoI agriculture sales to UK would be completely firked - but it appears that was not the issue - it was the RoI people want to be able to get cheaper goods and alcohol from a non-EU state. Whoda thunk it ?
08/02/2021 19:57:16 2 2
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I presume you can't go now since you would bring the virus back with you, since this is being used by ROI as an excuse to close the border with NI and break the Brexit agreement
08/02/2021 22:01:51 1 0
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And free health services? Yes I work for Belfast Trust.
08/02/2021 22:13:24 0 1
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Yes good job the wages are 50% higher in the republic!
08/02/2021 23:54:18 0 1
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Obey the law and stay where you should in your own country, the prices are your countrys problem
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08/02/2021 10:42:21 336 225
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So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
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08/02/2021 10:47:22 52 23
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Yes unfortunately they broadsided their own credibility... all of them.

Four years of 'No, No, No' followed by 'Actually, yes'.

And 'Irish' Joe Biden actually has twice as much English heritage than Irish, He doesn't bang on about that side of his genetic family, does he?
Nobody really likes the English Internationally. Whereas the Irish are loved everywhere. I can see why Biden was promoting his Green genes when yes as you say, he doesn't really give AF about his English Ancestry. Removed
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08/02/2021 11:44:31 3 10
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"twice as much English heritage than Irish"

He doesn't really.
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08/02/2021 11:55:17 8 6
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Well he wouldnt would he ? Why be English when you can be Irish ?
08/02/2021 17:09:48 2 2
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Why would he? The English are idiots.
08/02/2021 19:32:29 0 1
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Could you blame him?
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08/02/2021 10:47:55 9 5
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This is right - it is not a Brexit thing - this is an extension of the Republics 3 mile ban. They may not impose it within the north of Ireland but they can and are right to impose it where they are able - this is not a new thing - there have been travel restrictions in the Republic for and extended period now. The problem is up here in the north - limited restrictions-need an all Ireland approach
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What a joke the Irish Gov are. It's a pity the Garda weren't so diligent around the border during the 70's and 80's. Never to be seen within miles of the border basically giving terrorists freedom to come and go as they pleased Removed
Due to similar historical circumstances and geopolitical situation ( between two powerful neighbours) I identify with the Irish till my last breath though have both passports on the top of my Polish one.
So I put it this way....please tell us more about this topic. Cover the last 700 years. The wind that shakes the barley.
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08/02/2021 11:14:50 1 2
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It's a pity you can't forgive/forget events of 40 years ago and prefer to open old sectarian wounds.

I have no doubt the Garda, at the time with the tools available, did the best they could to protect people on both sides of that terrible divide.
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 8 11
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Why would anyone want to travel from here to there ? Its got 5th overall worst infection rates in Europe, their vaccination number is way behind ours. Oh how the tables have turned
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08/02/2021 10:51:54 9 7
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Why would you want to stay here, 4th largest death total in the world, largest by population if you exclude countries with <20 million people.

I agree with what you say to an extent but it's no bed of roses here
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08/02/2021 10:54:58 1 2
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There are other reasons to travel than trying to avoid coronavirus (not that travelling is a particularly good way to avoid it). It is important to remember that there are important things in life which are not coronavirus
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08/02/2021 10:56:54 7 3
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Infection rates in the republic are less than those in NI, son as are the death rates. Take of your hate blinkers.
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So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 26 25
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Shame we don't have some control on our borders.
But with Patel and Johnson in charge it's the inevitable shambles.
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08/02/2021 11:37:24 16 11
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Labour had an open door policy. You need to learn history
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08/02/2021 12:33:50 9 8
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You mean unlike Labour, who under Blair had a deliberate policy of allowing virtually unfettered immigration from the Indian subcontinent in an attempt to gerrymander the whole nation & tear apart society as we know it?
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08/02/2021 10:49:35 229 73
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So where are we up to with, There will be no border on the island of Ireland?
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08/02/2021 11:00:41 221 27
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Surely it is only enforcing the restrictions that apply in Ireland to those who don't live there but choose to go there? Isn't that what the rule of law in a country entails?
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08/02/2021 11:14:52 22 8
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Exactly the same as we are with the england/wales boder
- sorry no political point to be made here just Covid control
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08/02/2021 11:30:05 14 6
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The French apply similar rules in the EU, even though they are within the Schengeyn area.
Get real; it's for peopless' safety.
It was against the law for English to travel into Wales, and vice versa.
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08/02/2021 16:23:47 8 4
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There is no border between England and Wales but people were still fined for going there when Wales locked down. We are living with a deadly pandemic, this is not about petty point scoring.
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08/02/2021 16:26:16 1 0
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It is no different to going from England to Wales just now.
08/02/2021 16:56:38 2 0
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There is no border nutter
there is no travel, except essential travel, over 5km
I was over earlier and on the route to work
a quiet country road away from the main route for chancers using airports
there was no checkpoint
08/02/2021 17:07:32 2 1
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No-one said there would be no border on the island of Ireland - there has been one there for 100 years. What they said was there would be no HARD border for the import/export of goods. You are conflating two different things.
08/02/2021 18:02:36 2 1
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Dumb question. It is no different to police in the UK stopping people to check if their travel is essential, which is and should be happening. Cut your brextard nonsense and get behind efforts to stop this virus
08/02/2021 21:06:30 2 0
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Eu doing more for a hard border in Ireland than anyone else. Great to see! Keep up the good work eu ??
Meanwhile those that cross illegally from France for economic reasons get vaccines and an amnesty. Wonderful isn't it Removed
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08/02/2021 10:52:13 15 14
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A Daily Mail correspondent writes........
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08/02/2021 10:55:30 5 3
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There aren't many crossing from France to Ireland, Colin.
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08/02/2021 11:04:01 4 3
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All Lives Matter, unless they're migrants trying to get to Britain eh?
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So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
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08/02/2021 10:50:03 44 46
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I checked, it’s Britain, I am British not Brexish please don’t attach your political interest to my nationality.

Oh and Brexit is an abomination and anyone who wants to punish it internally or otherwise is fine by me.
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08/02/2021 10:50:39 70 49
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Friends in NI - if you get caught, claim you were just testing your eyesight and that it was all "in the spirit" of lockdown; it's what we do in England and means you can get away with it.
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08/02/2021 10:58:32 65 56
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This claptrap is so boringly repeated to be nonsensical
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08/02/2021 11:17:16 13 11
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Seems like, if you're travelling between Wales and London to celebrate Kinnock senior's birthday then the loony left will ignore it.
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08/02/2021 11:24:44 11 10
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Do you also see Dominic Cummings in your sleep? Does he haunt you at the dead of night? Does Brexit reduce to you to a cold sweat each evening? Get help. Move on.
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08/02/2021 11:29:13 8 13
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Remember kids - if you've got absolutely nothing interesting, insightful, witty or relevant to say in any scenario, just shout "CUMMINGS".
All the other children think you're great and everyone will vote Labour evermore.

There. Who said politics needed to be complicated?
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08/02/2021 11:57:58 5 3
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Or in the case of Stephen Kinnock, just visiting your dad. But the Labour breaches of protocol never get mentioned on here , do they?
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08/02/2021 12:14:10 2 3
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Do you have any proof her went to the castle ! Thought not !
08/02/2021 21:24:58 1 0
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A better excuse is Prof Ferguson's - "I have a tryst with my Married Mistress - she is a Mistress to die for."
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08/02/2021 10:51:11 5 21
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The real Irish people in NI, what are you waiting for ? time to announce to leave the UK that is spreading England variants and S Africa variants that have been confirmed no effective vaccines to stop them to invade your nation and genocide your people

FREE NI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

??
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??
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08/02/2021 10:56:55 2 4
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What, free NI from EU tyranny?
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08/02/2021 10:51:22 0 6
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Hahahaha !!!
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08/02/2021 10:51:23 6 11
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Where are you papers!!
What's next shoot on sight?
1939 or 1984?
You choose people
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08/02/2021 11:21:47 2 2
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Would you prefer infect all you contact?
08/02/2021 17:29:41 1 0
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And wear your yellow star!!!
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08/02/2021 10:51:38 119 23
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If the British Army and Police couldn't stop people crossing the border unchecked for years, there is very little chance of some Covid cops being able to stop movement across the border now.
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08/02/2021 16:05:22 27 3
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And that's why they all drive 4x4's so they don't have to use the roads - yeah!
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He shoots, he misses!
08/02/2021 23:15:23 1 0
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We always knew where they crossed. We just weren't allowed to stop them.
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 8 11
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Why would anyone want to travel from here to there ? Its got 5th overall worst infection rates in Europe, their vaccination number is way behind ours. Oh how the tables have turned
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08/02/2021 10:51:54 9 7
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Why would you want to stay here, 4th largest death total in the world, largest by population if you exclude countries with <20 million people.

I agree with what you say to an extent but it's no bed of roses here
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08/02/2021 10:54:24 1 2
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If you leave here you'll get fined
Meanwhile those that cross illegally from France for economic reasons get vaccines and an amnesty. Wonderful isn't it Removed
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08/02/2021 10:52:13 15 14
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A Daily Mail correspondent writes........
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jon
08/02/2021 10:43:57 13 14
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Scotland banned travel with England long ago. Notwithstanding the sensitivities around the GFA and daily cross border trade (milk) why were the Irish so slow?
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08/02/2021 10:52:14 6 6
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Not true.

Don't spread false news and hate.
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08/02/2021 11:03:05 2 3
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It is true, I’m not allowed to cross border to see family at present
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08/02/2021 11:36:41 1 1
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It is true just not enforced very strictly.
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Admittedly this is a short term COVID thing. However for a border that should always be fully open, it does seem to pop up a lot.
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08/02/2021 11:32:44 169 19
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Such as the border between England and Wales?
There were fines for crossing that without good reason.
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08/02/2021 13:50:20 5 6
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Why does it need to be open? Until we rejoin the EU it should be a hard border. It wasn't much of an issue to those of us who grew up during the troubles.
08/02/2021 17:39:21 7 0
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We shouldn't be crossing county boundaries in Great Britain.
The same applies to Ireland.
08/02/2021 17:42:19 2 3
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That would be the border that Brexiteers - most of whom don't live anywhere near Northern Ireland so are not affected either way - whined about wanting to close themselves? Remarkable how they suddenly love the idea of an open border just to be contrary, despite it being temporarily enforced for obvious health reasons.
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08/02/2021 10:53:11 495 327
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Imagine if the UK pulled this stunt.

Imagine what the BBC would be saying.

If there's an agenda the BBC will push it.

How easily they ignore the Good Friday Agreement when it suits.
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08/02/2021 11:00:54 266 181
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The Irish authorities are simply extending restrictions to ALL of their citizens....
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Imagine if England gave people their countries back.
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08/02/2021 11:15:10 54 55
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Anyone with an IQ above 5 can see why this is being done. Look at the difference in infection rates between ROI and NI. It's almost like the UK govt have continually made poor decisions.
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08/02/2021 11:40:34 15 10
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What rubbish, Australia had the same rule between its states,, stop making up silly issues,.. Did Scotland not have something similar for anybody traveling north
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08/02/2021 11:51:36 20 10
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Totally right. The bbc have an opinion and create news on anything - when it suits their agenda
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08/02/2021 11:56:16 8 11
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Can't travel more than 5km across RoI. IT IS NOT POLITICAL, but you clearly want to make it so.
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Tim
08/02/2021 11:57:25 7 7
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The UK DID pull this stunt. You may remember those who went to Wales and got a fine because the rules were different there. This is not about closing the border but preventing non essential travel due to a desire not to spread COVID, that pandemic you may recall reading about.
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08/02/2021 12:06:53 10 9
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You are only making a fuss because the border - a completely artificial construct - is involved. The point is that people ought not to be roaming around at the moment. The virus doesn't give a monkey's about borders.
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08/02/2021 12:10:51 6 8
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This applies to ALL COUNTIES IN IRELAND.
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08/02/2021 12:43:33 2 3
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Ahmed, have you read the GFA, are you firmiliar with the N.Ireland protocol? This is county measure for all of Ireland and the border counties, it has nothing to do with hard borders EU/UK relations!
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08/02/2021 13:47:12 5 4
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The GFA has had its day. Time to move on.
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08/02/2021 10:53:37 2 7
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Get rid of the border.
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08/02/2021 10:53:41 64 11
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hahahahahahahaha... the amount of effort the British Army put into securing the border during the Troubles never stopped Irishmen from crossing it at will... the Irish Garda have no chance. They'll get the normal people who use main roads and that's about it.
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08/02/2021 11:51:03 30 10
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I remember a BBC article on a farm were the border was a stream passing through a farm field.
How do you stop a farmer who has land in both countries?
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08/02/2021 10:49:15 5 5
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A saddening step, dividing an island based on borders will have a significant impact on communities firmly connected across the border, however must be done to stop the spread of the Coronavirus.
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08/02/2021 10:53:44 7 11
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All this around borders again in technically same country, time for the 6 counties to be reunited then we can stop worrying about borders on land and sea, then see how Eire copes being disjointed from EU.
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08/02/2021 10:57:42 3 8
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I agree, but hot in the way you think, all Ireland has ever done for my people, is kill them. So yes reunify by all means, then we can close our border to all travel from/to Ireland.
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08/02/2021 11:07:02 1 3
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As with Gibraltar & Falklands, the future of the 6 counties is a matter for the people who live there and no one else.

If they choose that they want to become part of a single entity on the island of Ireland via a referendum, it then becomes a question for ther republic to see if they want to accept them?

Would the republic suddenly want a load of disaffected loyalists being their problem.
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08/02/2021 12:00:30 0 0
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fantasy, my friend.
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08/02/2021 10:53:48 13 8
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until the UK locks down ports and borders ONE new strain after another will keep entering the UK DAY IN DAY OUT .the South Africa still has 7 days of open UK ports
to increase its presences in the UK .STILL NO TESTING OF ARRIVLES TO THE UK
OVER 1 YEAR LATER ?
its only a matter of time before a FAR MORE deadly strain enters the UK
ALL PEOPLE ENTERING THE UK OR ROI must be tested on Arrival
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08/02/2021 11:07:19 6 2
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More could and should have been done earlier, I agree. But at the end of the day we're all just going to have to get used to this new kid on a block previously occupied mainly by influenza.

We can't go autarkic on a permanent basis (we're not North Korea), and we have had a timely reminder that life is not risk-free and that death is a part of life.
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08/02/2021 11:08:51 2 5
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"its only a matter of time before a FAR MORE deadly strain enters the UK"

If you're right then the only logical approach is to expose as many people as possible to existing strains to build up some population immunity.

So end lockdowns now...
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08/02/2021 11:11:38 1 2
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And the Kent variety, we need to protect other countries from that.

Lock down ports, no food for U.K or materials for manufacture...
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08/02/2021 11:12:17 1 2
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New strains are more likely to occur and take root in countries with high infection rates. Who has one of the highest infection rates in the world... we do. Expect UK variant 2 and 3 to be spreading somewhere near you.
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08/02/2021 11:41:44 1 2
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Or we get another home-grown mutant. And spread that to the rest of the world.
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08/02/2021 10:53:52 6 14
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They really endear themselves to the general public don’t they, step slightly out of line & get slapped with a fine, whatever happened to policing with consent?
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08/02/2021 10:51:11 5 21
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The real Irish people in NI, what are you waiting for ? time to announce to leave the UK that is spreading England variants and S Africa variants that have been confirmed no effective vaccines to stop them to invade your nation and genocide your people

FREE NI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

??
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08/02/2021 10:54:04 2 5
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??
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08/02/2021 10:54:08 10 9
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Being pro both sides, it would be best if us Irish and British worked together.

The only people that will gain from trouble is lawyers and Brussels bureaucrats paid by the hour + expenses.
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08/02/2021 11:05:05 4 5
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Whereas our own government spend taxpayers’ monies on private bureaucrats costing £1000 an hour.
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08/02/2021 11:59:37 1 1
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Nothing to do with Brussels.
Eire iis a sovereign country, as we have always been.
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08/02/2021 10:51:54 9 7
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Why would you want to stay here, 4th largest death total in the world, largest by population if you exclude countries with <20 million people.

I agree with what you say to an extent but it's no bed of roses here
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08/02/2021 10:54:24 1 2
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If you leave here you'll get fined
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 8 11
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Why would anyone want to travel from here to there ? Its got 5th overall worst infection rates in Europe, their vaccination number is way behind ours. Oh how the tables have turned
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08/02/2021 10:54:58 1 2
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There are other reasons to travel than trying to avoid coronavirus (not that travelling is a particularly good way to avoid it). It is important to remember that there are important things in life which are not coronavirus
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08/02/2021 10:55:07 3 5
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Has Article 16 been triggered again?
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08/02/2021 10:59:50 7 6
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No, the Irish authorities have simply extended their pre-existing Covid restrictions (5 km from home unless necessary) to the rest of their citizens in the north.

A sensible and fair approach.
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08/02/2021 10:55:12 1 6
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Article 16?
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08/02/2021 10:55:17 331 67
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Looks like a sensible move to reduce the spread of a highly dangerous virus between countries.

EU countries have always had the sovereignty to close their borders to other EU countries and have done so for health matters like virus spread previously.

So why would they hesitate to do the exact same for a now Third Party country ?
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08/02/2021 10:57:08 140 19
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Need to shut down movement from the highly infected countries where the more lethal variants are present just as the UK is doing with South Africa and Brazil.
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08/02/2021 11:07:05 14 35
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'Highly dangerous' virus with a 0.3% death rate

Hardly the Black Death is it?
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08/02/2021 11:21:31 5 32
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It isn't very dangerous. we now know, conclusively, that it is a comparable IFR to flu.
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08/02/2021 11:54:12 4 2
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It can therefore work both ways.
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08/02/2021 12:16:09 17 4
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Well it's establishing a border after being so adamant they didn't want one.
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OwO
08/02/2021 13:04:18 16 9
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They made a huge fuss about the integrity of open borders due to the GFA in Brexit negotiations. Did you miss that bit, or just happy to allow the EU's hypocrisy because it supports your ideology?
08/02/2021 16:58:57 3 1
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Interesting that neither London nor Dublin took any action at the beginning of January when the Republic had a far higher 7 day rate of infection per 100,000 than UK. 8th January Republic was 864 compared to UK at 611 (France was 164!)
08/02/2021 17:27:44 1 1
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Common Travel Area.
08/02/2021 17:40:56 2 2
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Different rules entirely apply to Ireland/UK and have done since the 1930s. Common Travel Area. If the EU want to stop that all well and good. Ireland can have its population back any day they want.
08/02/2021 17:47:39 0 1
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Oh, this Third Country is ENGLAND, "the best country in the world, and we can do what we want, as we have always done, stuff the lot of you". That's why they think like Corvidiots, the little Englanders.
08/02/2021 18:24:16 0 3
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They need to keep their borders open to wave the begging bowls around.
08/02/2021 20:38:39 1 0
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No they haven't, they're closing their border to a non EU country, it's just they made a massive fuss about the UK shutting that border and how it would cause merry hell, somewhat hypocritical.
08/02/2021 22:32:04 0 1
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"highly dangerous". The virus is not Ebola, Small Pox or MERS.

Letting yourself be controlled by fear, hyped and pepped up by the media to rationalise that fear and then call to impose authoritarian restrictions on other people "for the greater good", is exactly what the USSR, Nazi germany and CCP China did/have done.

Lockdowns do not work, the virus spreads regardless. You can't control nature
08/02/2021 23:08:19 0 0
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Definition of ‘highly dangerous’ numb nuts? Mortality rate of....?
09/02/2021 13:36:19 0 0
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i think you need some facts. the irish gov are only stopping northern people traveling south, they wont stop southern people in their hundreds traveling north! so their own people in hundreds are spreading the virus back into the south, Sensible is not a proper reply!
Meanwhile those that cross illegally from France for economic reasons get vaccines and an amnesty. Wonderful isn't it Removed
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08/02/2021 10:55:30 5 3
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There aren't many crossing from France to Ireland, Colin.
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08/02/2021 11:00:09 2 3
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There might be soon once the direct routes get established
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08/02/2021 10:56:09 17 11
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Are such restrictions compatible with the Good Friday Agreement?
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08/02/2021 10:58:19 13 9
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Yes
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08/02/2021 10:57:48 2 3
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they need to stop the England virus don't they.
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08/02/2021 11:01:26 6 3
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They are, but so are customs checks and we all know the fuss made about those.
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08/02/2021 10:56:31 56 14
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Even if UK erects countrywide barricades this is not going to prevent the spread of virus risks.Not all the general public are persuaded to OBEY the rules put in place to keep them safe. A sizable minority of "stupids" still seem to believe rules are for others. Public shaming in normal times is wrong, but surely names of all those intercepted ignoring Covid travel rules should be made public?
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08/02/2021 11:02:11 18 2
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Listen to Radio 4 interviewing residents of Glastonbury this morning to understand how bizarre the views of a sizable proportion of the general public are.
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08/02/2021 11:05:02 10 9
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Who decides what a reasonable excuse for travel is? Let’s face it, a sizeable number of “stupids” as you describe them work for the authorities! This is the problem with authoritarianism.
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08/02/2021 10:42:45 644 87
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Nobody should be going anywhere unless it is for essential purposes, wherever you live in the UK.
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08/02/2021 10:56:48 428 222
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All nations should introduce the 5km limit, it is ridiculous that this wasn't introduced from the start.

It would certainly have made the Cumming's affair a slam dunk.
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08/02/2021 11:13:35 56 74
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Ah, the Cummings affair, I suspect the Gruaniad is still keeping it fresh for you.
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08/02/2021 11:17:07 58 49
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For what reason? You would be forcing people to exercise in high density areas. This is not medical advice it is NIMBYism.
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08/02/2021 11:20:27 33 11
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That would stop lots of people from going to the shops for food so I'm not sure how you enforce that. There are not enough police in the village I live in to stop people going from one end of the village to the other, but I guess you could put roadblocks on the five or six roads in and out.
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08/02/2021 11:20:44 91 6
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My nearest supermarket is 8 miles away.
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08/02/2021 11:22:05 62 75
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Oh dear, referring to a single incident that happened 9 months ago. Lots have happened since then. And don't try to blame it on one person.
All nationalists should introduce the 5m limit, it is ridiculous that this wasn't introduced from the start.

It would certainly have made the Cumming's affair a slam dunk.
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08/02/2021 11:33:28 22 4
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The Kinnock one too - let's not be showing our bias
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08/02/2021 11:36:32 7 22
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That would effectively close the country down economically & is not affordable. The restrictions we currently have in the UK are way too severe for the No of deaths being experienced already. Business needs to re-open now before we face millions unemployed and tens of thousands of business failures.
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08/02/2021 11:40:24 18 13
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If the best you can do is to keep exhuming the Cummings case, at least learn to spell his name.
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08/02/2021 11:46:48 22 15
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Whatever side your political views why does Cummings have to always be mentioned? He’s gone. He’s yesterday’s man. It’s the present and future that counts.
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08/02/2021 11:50:42 12 16
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Still going on about Cummings......boring. Did you complain about Stephen Kinnock?
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08/02/2021 11:51:06 9 11
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But this is RoI where they have a decent government which operates with common sense.
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08/02/2021 11:57:45 9 3
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And how would anyone living in rural areas go shopping for food with a 3 mile travel limit? How would all those living alone visit/ be visited by their one other household that is allowed in rural areas?
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08/02/2021 12:09:22 5 6
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yet another hysteric.
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08/02/2021 12:16:45 5 7
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My work place is more than 5 km from home. Some people live more than 5 km from their nearest food shop.

The 'stay local' message is already making life harder for some than it is for others.
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08/02/2021 12:18:33 8 2
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The most distance I’ve travelled in the last 12 months is to the local Co-Op and back - 100 metres away. Pretty much fed up of it now
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08/02/2021 12:23:23 6 5
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5k is probably a bit to severe, id say cross county travel bans. unless of course you are on the boundary and have to cross to shop/petrol..etc.
Cummings tho, is a great example of one rule for the circus and one for the rest.
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08/02/2021 10:48:54 8 11
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Why would anyone want to travel from here to there ? Its got 5th overall worst infection rates in Europe, their vaccination number is way behind ours. Oh how the tables have turned
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08/02/2021 10:56:54 7 3
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Infection rates in the republic are less than those in NI, son as are the death rates. Take of your hate blinkers.
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08/02/2021 11:11:38 0 2
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Take 'off', obviously.
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08/02/2021 10:51:11 5 21
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The real Irish people in NI, what are you waiting for ? time to announce to leave the UK that is spreading England variants and S Africa variants that have been confirmed no effective vaccines to stop them to invade your nation and genocide your people

FREE NI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

??
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08/02/2021 10:56:55 2 4
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What, free NI from EU tyranny?
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08/02/2021 10:55:17 331 67
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Looks like a sensible move to reduce the spread of a highly dangerous virus between countries.

EU countries have always had the sovereignty to close their borders to other EU countries and have done so for health matters like virus spread previously.

So why would they hesitate to do the exact same for a now Third Party country ?
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08/02/2021 10:57:08 140 19
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Need to shut down movement from the highly infected countries where the more lethal variants are present just as the UK is doing with South Africa and Brazil.
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08/02/2021 11:09:04 10 3
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And the rest of the world is doing with the UK variant.
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08/02/2021 11:26:25 11 15
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"where the more lethal variants are present"

:-D

There are no "more lethal variants", just slightly more infectious ones.

But that is why we have this mass hysteria .. so that buffoons like you take 2 + 2 and make 598.

And the more infectious variants don't actually know they are meant to stay in SA & Brazil. Only clowns would think that .. like our government & you.
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08/02/2021 11:54:46 0 4
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A very different situation.
Don’t worry, most of the world has already banned travel from the filthy UK plague pit charnel house Removed
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and England has its own variant.
08/02/2021 20:44:13 0 1
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The south african variant is not more lethal. Check the figures . Recovery rate there is 91% compared to global average recovery of just under 77%. Fact. The economy does not need unfounded sensational headlines that people soak up
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08/02/2021 10:53:44 7 11
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All this around borders again in technically same country, time for the 6 counties to be reunited then we can stop worrying about borders on land and sea, then see how Eire copes being disjointed from EU.
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08/02/2021 10:57:42 3 8
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I agree, but hot in the way you think, all Ireland has ever done for my people, is kill them. So yes reunify by all means, then we can close our border to all travel from/to Ireland.
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08/02/2021 12:02:16 1 2
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The Irish remember when your people starved them, killed a lot more than they have done to you.
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08/02/2021 10:57:58 341 106
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?? We must all stop moving around until we're all vaccinated.
?? The sun will come out tomorrow.
?? We just have to be patient.
?? Be kind to people. Many are facing very tough times.
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08/02/2021 11:21:22 63 177
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Not all will be vaccinated Ian. Many cannot have it and many will refuse, what is the plan for them?
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08/02/2021 11:31:12 34 32
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Who is included in "all"? If it is the entire world population, that is going to take a number of years. I don't think everyone in the world needs to stop moving around for multiple years because Ian from BBC HYS says so
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08/02/2021 11:29:41 30 142
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Stick with my immune system.Worked for me so far.Who wants to be a guinea pig?
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08/02/2021 11:50:02 3 11
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If you do move around, remember 10 to 2, 10 to 2, 10 to 2....
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08/02/2021 12:10:17 14 22
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sold on fear.
08/02/2021 16:37:42 6 8
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Drivel. We will never be let out. The goal posts will keep moving. Direct action will be required eventually.
08/02/2021 16:50:33 0 0
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Unfortunately not everyone will be vaccinated

I know two NHS workers that have refused the vaccine
08/02/2021 17:26:15 3 0
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Move! or die
Don't wait for the sun
Go! Now!
08/02/2021 17:26:31 7 0
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I wouldn't be kind to those idiots camping in the Lake District this weekend and causing a member of Mountain rescue to sustain serious injuries.
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08/02/2021 10:54:46 19 11
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This is the right thing to do, better late than never.

The Irony of the situation is that malevolent forces were intent on turning a simple customs check at the border into something way more deadly than Covid.

And the world’s great and good, backed them. You couldn’t make it up.
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08/02/2021 11:02:57 12 14
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Ah yes, let's weaponise the situation and have another dig at nationalists...

Routine.
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08/02/2021 10:56:09 17 11
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Are such restrictions compatible with the Good Friday Agreement?
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08/02/2021 10:58:19 13 9
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Yes
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08/02/2021 10:50:39 70 49
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Friends in NI - if you get caught, claim you were just testing your eyesight and that it was all "in the spirit" of lockdown; it's what we do in England and means you can get away with it.
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08/02/2021 10:58:32 65 56
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This claptrap is so boringly repeated to be nonsensical
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08/02/2021 11:06:14 16 14
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Cummings Cummings Cummings.....does the truth HURT ??
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08/02/2021 11:17:51 8 7
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Are you Emily Maitlis? You have been warned twice for your harassment of the INNOCENT Mr Cummings
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08/02/2021 11:23:16 4 7
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Unfortunately, not.
Just shows the divide between us and them
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xlr
08/02/2021 11:27:58 9 6
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Almost like Diane Abbot jokes, eh?
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ray
08/02/2021 12:16:13 1 3
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Haha. Clearly a massive middle class Tory voter.
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08/02/2021 10:55:07 3 5
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Has Article 16 been triggered again?
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08/02/2021 10:59:50 7 6
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No, the Irish authorities have simply extended their pre-existing Covid restrictions (5 km from home unless necessary) to the rest of their citizens in the north.

A sensible and fair approach.
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08/02/2021 10:55:30 5 3
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There aren't many crossing from France to Ireland, Colin.
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08/02/2021 11:00:09 2 3
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There might be soon once the direct routes get established
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08/02/2021 10:49:35 229 73
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So where are we up to with, There will be no border on the island of Ireland?
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08/02/2021 11:00:41 221 27
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Surely it is only enforcing the restrictions that apply in Ireland to those who don't live there but choose to go there? Isn't that what the rule of law in a country entails?
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08/02/2021 11:53:40 11 9
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I bet you wouldn't be saying that if the UK had done it.
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08/02/2021 11:58:17 2 9
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Yep, but the deniers, activists and other numppties will try to twist it to fit their agendas.
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08/02/2021 12:24:18 23 14
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No it is not allowing them to cross the border - you know, the 'open' one that was insisted upon by all and sundry and is now apparently not open as and when EU decides to close him. But then the EU is composed of hypocrites and incompetents
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08/02/2021 16:29:06 5 3
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But if the tables were turned all hell would break out in Eire and Europe. Borders when it suits Europe, but not if the UK is saying so
08/02/2021 16:37:27 4 1
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So should we have PSNI on the Border stopping smugglers. Or a Customs border checking what is coming in from a foreign country. So a Hard border is fine when it's not controlled by the Brits!
08/02/2021 16:38:10 2 0
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Is that not a border?
08/02/2021 17:23:25 1 1
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Don't overcomplicate with facts, that doesn't suit some people's agendas here. Others simply can't grasp what is actually happening here. The BBC may need to use shorter words and use diagrams
08/02/2021 17:41:50 1 1
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Breaks the Common Travel Area.
08/02/2021 18:52:57 1 1
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Not if the country closing the border is the one who insisted it remained at all costs
08/02/2021 19:18:59 1 0
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So why not just have a hard border then, like any other country?
08/02/2021 20:50:29 2 0
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So there is nothing wrong with a hard border in Ireland? Something that the Irish, the US and the EU hammered the UK over claiming it broke the GFA - it seems only the UK can break the GFA, not the EU, not the Irish - one might think that the EU is dishing out punishment beatings to the UK for daring to vote leave. Not very friendly is it?
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08/02/2021 11:00:43 100 31
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A wise move to contain the spread of a killer virus, yet I'll be surprised if some of a particular mindset don't try to make it political.
The left are frothing at the mouth 'DOmIniC cUmMinGS DrOVe tO A CaSTle sO iT iS OKAy tO bREak ThE RulES' Removed
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OwO
08/02/2021 11:53:45 8 1
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So breaking the GFA is only non-political when it isn't done by the UK govt?
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08/02/2021 12:01:29 5 0
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Everything in Ireland is political.
08/02/2021 17:56:59 0 1
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they are already blowing gaskets
08/02/2021 20:59:53 0 2
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They didn't do it for flu, which is more lethal to the people likely to be crossing the border. The very old at death's door, the people this virus kills, are more likely in care homes and hospitals rather than gallivanting across the border. IF lock-downs work, lock them down.
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08/02/2021 10:53:11 495 327
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Imagine if the UK pulled this stunt.

Imagine what the BBC would be saying.

If there's an agenda the BBC will push it.

How easily they ignore the Good Friday Agreement when it suits.
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08/02/2021 11:00:54 266 181
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The Irish authorities are simply extending restrictions to ALL of their citizens....
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08/02/2021 11:26:16 88 20
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The people of NI are not the citizens of the Irish republic.
All Irish are equal, but some Irish are more equal than others...

Oink
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OwO
08/02/2021 11:44:44 23 12
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Residents of NI are not citizens of RoI. They have no jurisdiction to act over them.
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08/02/2021 12:21:47 14 5
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I realise that you may have difficulty understanding this but citizens of N Ireland are NOT citizens of Southern Ireland. They are citizens of the UK - do check a map next time before you post inaccuracies
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08/02/2021 11:01:32 211 69
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As long as the UK government fines those from Ireland crossing the border to NI without legitimate reasons then this sounds sensible to slow the spread. The message is stay at home!

Out for a walk this morning at 7am and too many cars on the main road means people are ignoring the rules. I'd like the police to put up blockades to ask people what they are doing. Invalid excuse -> FINE them.
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08/02/2021 11:06:13 103 203
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The Gov has lost all credibility following the DC affair and idiotic campaigns like the "Eat out to Spread it about" one.

The Keystone Cops can't enforce convoluted nonsense rules and have become a laughing stock for the fines they give out in the papers.
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08/02/2021 11:23:08 18 1
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at 7am, going to work.
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08/02/2021 11:28:03 12 1
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People are working, shopping or exercising mainly, there are no distance restrictions in NI, but when you go over the border Irish regulations apply. It's the same for all devolved areas of the UK. Each area has slightly different regulations.
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08/02/2021 11:55:26 2 3
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I hope the police have better things to do.
Y would we fine irish people for crossing into the north?

Ireland have a sensible law stating that you cannot travel more then 5km from your home to help stop the spread of the virus

The UK does not (even last momth boris was caught cycling 7km from his home)

Dont try to create friction where none exists my boy!!!
Why are you “out for a walk?”

Cant you walk around your house?

YOU are murdering people.
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08/02/2021 15:59:12 0 1
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Not a UK matter.
When you told the police what was their response?
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08/02/2021 16:07:53 4 0
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"Going to work at the office"
"Not a reasonable excuse, you could work from home"
"Try telling that to my boss!"
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08/02/2021 16:22:14 2 9
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I'd rather spread COVID than live in a police state.
984
08/02/2021 16:27:54 1 0
bbc
Totally agree
08/02/2021 16:36:51 0 1
bbc
Tit for tat, the Brittania way
08/02/2021 16:59:43 3 1
bbc
Perhaps they're going to their days work,some jobs involve a little more than just sitting at home tinkling on your keyboard and sending off a few 'vital to the nation' emails.
08/02/2021 17:25:21 3 0
bbc
"Out for a walk this morning at 7am and too many cars on the main road means people are ignoring the rules."

At 7am I think it's most likely just people going to work.
08/02/2021 17:51:39 2 0
bbc
Stop them and remove their steering wheels, simples.
08/02/2021 18:46:54 0 1
bbc
Fine them for going to work....not very bright are you.
08/02/2021 19:08:13 0 1
bbc
Its a devolved power so the responsibility of the Northern Ireland Assembly, not UK government, just the same as Wales and Scotland set their own rules and fines.
08/02/2021 22:00:13 1 0
bbc
Every £ will help to fill the £debt bucket as well as slowing the virus.
08/02/2021 22:20:17 0 0
bbc
Lots of people are still working you know
DC
08/02/2021 23:23:17 1 0
bbc
You seem to forget that many offices and places of work are open...cant lockdown if you have to go to work.
09/02/2021 00:43:49 0 0
bbc
At 7am, you can be pretty certain that nearly all are going to work - which is classed as an essential journey. Not many will be heading off to meet friends or have nice drive at that time on a Winter's morning.
64
08/02/2021 11:01:43 7 16
bbc
That the authorities have to threaten & scare people with fines says this 'pandemic' isnt as deadly as they want us to believe

If it was a truly deadly pandemic for most then you wouldnt need to enforce restrictions by fines, people would do it naturally

The vaccine wasnt created to end the pandemic, the pandemic was created to force through vaccinations
72
08/02/2021 11:03:44 8 3
bbc
Nurse! Bielsa's off again.
134
08/02/2021 11:16:33 1 4
bbc
Well said.
Freedom to travel is a basic right.
Look at Ivor Cummins stats on twitter. The death rate on the island of Ireland is not in anyway demonstrative of a killer pandemic, lethal to all and sunder.
Covid, as a seasonal respiratory disease will be be back and forth ever more as long at it is misdiagnosed at a testing level and then that data used to misrepresent death data.
48
08/02/2021 10:56:31 56 14
bbc
Even if UK erects countrywide barricades this is not going to prevent the spread of virus risks.Not all the general public are persuaded to OBEY the rules put in place to keep them safe. A sizable minority of "stupids" still seem to believe rules are for others. Public shaming in normal times is wrong, but surely names of all those intercepted ignoring Covid travel rules should be made public?
65
08/02/2021 11:02:11 18 2
bbc
Listen to Radio 4 interviewing residents of Glastonbury this morning to understand how bizarre the views of a sizable proportion of the general public are.
906
08/02/2021 16:03:04 8 2
bbc
Well, what do you expect in Glasto? Bizarre is the norm. Outré is not given a second thought. Weird is almost typical. Odd is compulsory. Rather like Boris.
08/02/2021 17:44:07 4 4
bbc
Yeah well that's Little England for you - bizarre.
Jo
08/02/2021 17:57:43 6 1
bbc
It's not just people in Glastonbury, it's most of the general public, just look at some of the governments and MP's that the general public have voted in over the years.
I live in Strabane can we start fining these free staters who cross the border unnecessarily to buy truck loads of drink it's bloody ridiculous you go to Asda an you can't even get a case of beer they Hoover them all up. Removed
95
08/02/2021 11:08:09 48 5
bbc
It's the job of the Gardaí to impose the 5km restriction on Donegal residents.
251
08/02/2021 11:31:18 7 3
bbc
No it's not illegal for them to do that unless they are more than 5km away from the border. There are no distance regulations in NI.
417
08/02/2021 11:57:06 2 1
bbc
Well said
And the men also cross to buy beer
458
08/02/2021 12:02:43 5 7
bbc
So, they're paying UK tax and duty to support YOUR NHS, etc. And you know very well that 'free staters' is both out of date and calculated to inflame. Nasty!
774
08/02/2021 13:45:55 1 0
bbc
their border blocking is stupid, wont stop the virus when strabane town and further is full of southern shoppers bringing the virus back with them, when the southern people cross border they have no travel limits, they should be all stopped at border! the 5KM limit should apply to us in strabane to travel to lifford which is well within 5km. stupid unworkable and pointless at stopping the virus
794
08/02/2021 13:54:10 2 3
bbc
It must be that the Euro is worth more, cant understand , i mean the queens pound backed by our vast empire, the Euro.................. it does not look like real money, paper with funny pictures and peoples faces on it. HA. HA. HA.
799
08/02/2021 14:01:10 5 4
bbc
What a ridiculous comment.
831
08/02/2021 15:16:42 2 4
bbc
You could apply the term "these free staters" to the peoples of the world's other republics too. Why don't you?
900
Sam
08/02/2021 16:00:49 3 0
bbc
What was the response when you informed the authorities? Shopping is of course a reason for travel.
988
08/02/2021 16:28:40 3 7
bbc
Your artificial Protestant statelet will be gone in a decade . Try to adjust to a new future.
08/02/2021 16:38:24 1 0
bbc
Vacuum, there are other cleaners available, this is the BBC
08/02/2021 16:59:46 0 1
bbc
like you werent in Lifford yerself just this morning you hypocrite
08/02/2021 17:30:56 0 0
bbc
Now that is an essential journey. Get you in as soon as the delivery arrives Smokey.
08/02/2021 17:56:58 0 1
bbc
Shocking grammar - let me re-word for you.
I dole blodge in Strabane thus can we commence punitive measures against our fellow Irishmen living in the Republic who purchase our liquor before we get our biweekly an naffins left - not even a buckfast, they have grabbed them all.
67
08/02/2021 11:02:43 2 11
bbc
Evil EU brave British subjects! D:
68
08/02/2021 11:02:49 4 5
bbc
The important thing now with Covid is the SA variant. Why no news on the situation in South Africa?
81
08/02/2021 11:04:55 5 1
bbc
55
08/02/2021 10:54:46 19 11
bbc
This is the right thing to do, better late than never.

The Irony of the situation is that malevolent forces were intent on turning a simple customs check at the border into something way more deadly than Covid.

And the world’s great and good, backed them. You couldn’t make it up.
69
08/02/2021 11:02:57 12 14
bbc
Ah yes, let's weaponise the situation and have another dig at nationalists...

Routine.
100
08/02/2021 11:06:24 4 4
bbc
Not one thing I said is anything other than the truth.
473
08/02/2021 12:05:32 2 3
bbc
Don't pretend that the border checks by the Garda have no political significance. Anything to do with the Irish border has ramifications.
30
08/02/2021 10:52:14 6 6
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Not true.

Don't spread false news and hate.
70
08/02/2021 11:03:05 2 3
bbc
It is true, I’m not allowed to cross border to see family at present
71
08/02/2021 11:03:23 0 3
bbc
Tier system only seemed to work for the old strains, all nations have to move as one to mitigate, or even eliminate, the new variants.
64
08/02/2021 11:01:43 7 16
bbc
That the authorities have to threaten & scare people with fines says this 'pandemic' isnt as deadly as they want us to believe

If it was a truly deadly pandemic for most then you wouldnt need to enforce restrictions by fines, people would do it naturally

The vaccine wasnt created to end the pandemic, the pandemic was created to force through vaccinations
72
08/02/2021 11:03:44 8 3
bbc
Nurse! Bielsa's off again.
73
08/02/2021 11:03:46 6 3
bbc
And I thought the idea was NOT to have a hard border in the island of Ireland.
89
08/02/2021 11:06:25 9 3
bbc
The Irish authorities are simply extending restrictions to include all Irish citizens....in the republic you are forbidden from travelling more than 5km from your home unless it is necessary.
2
08/02/2021 10:42:21 336 225
bbc
So after hammering Brexit for the potential to impose a hard border, the EU and Ireland merrily produce them on 2 occasions in 2 weeks. Hmm, not breaking the GFA then? Pelosi not up in arms?

What a bunch of hypocrites they are when it comes to 'punishment of Brexit Britain'
74
08/02/2021 11:03:54 27 22
bbc
Oh god. You won. Get over it.
Meanwhile those that cross illegally from France for economic reasons get vaccines and an amnesty. Wonderful isn't it Removed
75
08/02/2021 11:04:01 4 3
bbc
All Lives Matter, unless they're migrants trying to get to Britain eh?
76
08/02/2021 10:56:43 11 6
bbc
Let's hope Westminster wakes up and applies the same restrictions in the UK mainland, as well as international borders.
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Rob
08/02/2021 11:17:26 16 3
bbc
1 in 115 infection per 100,000 population in Scotland ,
1 in 70 in Wales
1 in65 in N.I.
1 in 65 in England ,
ONS stats last week
I think i know which border to close...
275
08/02/2021 11:35:04 3 2
bbc
As the Welsh government did.
Though Boris refused.
77
08/02/2021 11:04:26 7 7
bbc
This basically says that The Republic of Ireland don't trust the UK government and NI Assembly to control the virus. The island of Ireland should be able to control the virus within its shores but the UKs' highest infection rate in the world is endangering that.
422
08/02/2021 11:57:41 2 0
bbc
Would you trust the UK government?
Or its people?
The Covidiots who put holidays abroad above our health?
47
08/02/2021 10:56:09 17 11
bbc
Are such restrictions compatible with the Good Friday Agreement?
78
08/02/2021 10:57:48 2 3
bbc
they need to stop the England virus don't they.
32
08/02/2021 10:53:11 495 327
bbc
Imagine if the UK pulled this stunt.

Imagine what the BBC would be saying.

If there's an agenda the BBC will push it.

How easily they ignore the Good Friday Agreement when it suits.
79
08/02/2021 11:00:16 46 101
bbc
Imagine if England gave people their countries back.
118
08/02/2021 11:12:58 59 38
bbc
Imagine if the Scots, Irish and Welsh would accept their part in the British Empire and recognise that, for example, Scotland tried to set up its own empire before the Union of the crowns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme

Or how about this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Dwyer
123
08/02/2021 11:14:08 73 19
bbc
England don't have their own parliament so have no control of any country. Now, if you want to mention the UK parliament, which is a product of Scotland's wishes and financial incompetence, that's a different matter.
202
08/02/2021 11:25:30 25 10
bbc
Imagine oif the majority did not want to be controlled by another country?
And the other country does not want them back?
47
08/02/2021 10:56:09 17 11
bbc
Are such restrictions compatible with the Good Friday Agreement?
80
08/02/2021 11:01:26 6 3
bbc
They are, but so are customs checks and we all know the fuss made about those.
117
08/02/2021 11:12:55 4 3
bbc
Customs checks are so much easier to administer at three ports as opposed to 300 crossing points.

Don't you think?
68
08/02/2021 11:02:49 4 5
bbc
The important thing now with Covid is the SA variant. Why no news on the situation in South Africa?
81
08/02/2021 11:04:55 5 1
bbc
48
08/02/2021 10:56:31 56 14
bbc
Even if UK erects countrywide barricades this is not going to prevent the spread of virus risks.Not all the general public are persuaded to OBEY the rules put in place to keep them safe. A sizable minority of "stupids" still seem to believe rules are for others. Public shaming in normal times is wrong, but surely names of all those intercepted ignoring Covid travel rules should be made public?
82
08/02/2021 11:05:02 10 9
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Who decides what a reasonable excuse for travel is? Let’s face it, a sizeable number of “stupids” as you describe them work for the authorities! This is the problem with authoritarianism.
297
08/02/2021 11:38:29 9 3
bbc
The gov you elected to govern.
And they are specified by that government, whereever you are.
40
08/02/2021 10:54:08 10 9
bbc
Being pro both sides, it would be best if us Irish and British worked together.

The only people that will gain from trouble is lawyers and Brussels bureaucrats paid by the hour + expenses.
83
08/02/2021 11:05:05 4 5
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Whereas our own government spend taxpayers’ monies on private bureaucrats costing £1000 an hour.
84
08/02/2021 11:05:17 1 4
bbc
'Ordinarily Resident', that does not mean 'a resident' as in living in ROI all year. So beware:

It means that you are

a) a citizen of Ireland,
b) resident there for more than 280? days/yr and
c) are registered with Revenue.ie and have submitted a return for three years.

plus the Green card which has to be issued for each crossing into EU with entry and exit dates.

NI = no-man's land
85
08/02/2021 11:05:49 4 18
bbc
Scary how compliant western populations have been about police intrusion into everyday life.

Now it's becoming clear that the drugs are failing and the virus is here to stay it's time to reassert our freedoms.
104
08/02/2021 11:10:43 5 2
bbc
Please don't make the mistake of 'reasserting' those freedoms in my vicinity.
110
08/02/2021 11:12:07 5 3
bbc
Must be a bore, you having to take face paint and giant shoes off each night.
132
08/02/2021 11:14:30 2 1
bbc
Rubbish. You haven't been studying hard enough.
12
08/02/2021 10:46:05 30 50
bbc
Should have an All Ireland just Re unite the 32
86
08/02/2021 11:06:02 10 7
bbc
Could also say a united British Isles as well if you want to go that far. No doubt the Barnett formula would have given the Irish as much as Brussels has in the past
427
08/02/2021 11:58:03 2 2
bbc
Yes but with Brussels they don’t have London bossing them around
63
08/02/2021 11:01:32 211 69
bbc
As long as the UK government fines those from Ireland crossing the border to NI without legitimate reasons then this sounds sensible to slow the spread. The message is stay at home!

Out for a walk this morning at 7am and too many cars on the main road means people are ignoring the rules. I'd like the police to put up blockades to ask people what they are doing. Invalid excuse -> FINE them.
87
08/02/2021 11:06:13 103 203
bbc
The Gov has lost all credibility following the DC affair and idiotic campaigns like the "Eat out to Spread it about" one.

The Keystone Cops can't enforce convoluted nonsense rules and have become a laughing stock for the fines they give out in the papers.
159
08/02/2021 11:20:06 12 12
bbc
I agree, the govt. (and a few other politicians) have not looked good during the pandemic with their actions but the police have a difficult position between looking like an authoritarian state and actually enforcing the rules. Other countries have been tougher on lockdown and have had better results.
308
08/02/2021 11:40:52 15 7
bbc
Clown prince numb nuts. Says it all really. Numb nuts, clown.
334
08/02/2021 11:45:07 4 2
bbc
Surveys after the event showed on 7% of thepopulation changed their behaviour in any way. Not exactly overwellming.
412
08/02/2021 11:56:36 15 5
bbc
The government vaccine campaign is one of the best in the world.
670
08/02/2021 12:52:33 6 0
bbc
Great tag - very apposite. Couldn't have thought of a better one for you
943
08/02/2021 16:18:44 10 0
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DC I agree with, but EAT OUT...was their to help the industry, and it did, without any real evidence it did much harm. The bigger problem was Christmas encouraged by the media and now criticised by them. They just swing whichever way the politics happen to suite them.
08/02/2021 16:40:26 8 0
bbc
Why you still talking about DC when you should be talking about Michelle 'I will never apologize' O'Neil who still thinks she did Nothing wrong.
08/02/2021 17:38:02 4 0
bbc
What’s your view on Kinnock and Blackford then
08/02/2021 18:01:05 2 1
bbc
Dear CPNN. No-one caught C-19, was hospitalised or died due to DC's trip to self-isolate with his immediate family in a remote cottage in Co.Durham. Even his dodgy 'eyesight' trip to Barnard Castle does not seem to have put anyone at any significant risk (per his account). Police did not find his actions significant. Please try not to spew stuff based around your irrational fears and hatreds.
08/02/2021 18:19:15 1 0
bbc
The BBC has lost all credibility in this and any other matter.
08/02/2021 19:10:52 1 0
bbc
Still playing the same cracked Dominic Cummings record? You really should get out more and you would realise the world has moved on a long way past there. Think it's time you came out of your hermit's cave and joined the real world then you might be able to say something original for a change
fos
08/02/2021 21:37:49 1 0
bbc
I suspect most people have lost faith in comments like this and especially the absolute obsession you have with DC not least because it’s completely irrelevant other than for those with an agenda unrelated to COVID-19
57
08/02/2021 10:58:32 65 56
bbc
This claptrap is so boringly repeated to be nonsensical
88
08/02/2021 11:06:14 16 14
bbc
Cummings Cummings Cummings.....does the truth HURT ??
196
08/02/2021 11:24:23 13 7
bbc
No, its just VERY BORING when someone uses it when they can't think of anything useful to say.
73
08/02/2021 11:03:46 6 3
bbc
And I thought the idea was NOT to have a hard border in the island of Ireland.
89
08/02/2021 11:06:25 9 3
bbc
The Irish authorities are simply extending restrictions to include all Irish citizens....in the republic you are forbidden from travelling more than 5km from your home unless it is necessary.
90
08/02/2021 11:06:33 1 9
bbc
If they cross the border, just shoot them, that'll stop the virus.
106
08/02/2021 11:10:11 1 6
bbc
They'll probably do that
??
36
08/02/2021 10:53:44 7 11
bbc
All this around borders again in technically same country, time for the 6 counties to be reunited then we can stop worrying about borders on land and sea, then see how Eire copes being disjointed from EU.
91
08/02/2021 11:07:02 1 3
bbc
As with Gibraltar & Falklands, the future of the 6 counties is a matter for the people who live there and no one else.

If they choose that they want to become part of a single entity on the island of Ireland via a referendum, it then becomes a question for ther republic to see if they want to accept them?

Would the republic suddenly want a load of disaffected loyalists being their problem.
45
08/02/2021 10:55:17 331 67
bbc
Looks like a sensible move to reduce the spread of a highly dangerous virus between countries.

EU countries have always had the sovereignty to close their borders to other EU countries and have done so for health matters like virus spread previously.

So why would they hesitate to do the exact same for a now Third Party country ?
92
08/02/2021 11:07:05 14 35
bbc
'Highly dangerous' virus with a 0.3% death rate

Hardly the Black Death is it?
124
08/02/2021 11:14:30 10 7
bbc
The SA variant is in Britain. It can dodge the AZ vaccine.

Want the good news? The Brazilian variants haven't made landfall yet. They have a much higher fatality rate...in young people.
08/02/2021 17:04:42 4 1
bbc
Dangerous isn't just restricted to death - there can also be serious long-term health problems for those who survive. The death rate would also be far higher if we had not had repeated lockdowns, something they didn't appear to have in the Middle Ages.
08/02/2021 17:44:44 1 0
bbc
that about 200k in the UK.
08/02/2021 23:01:54 1 0
bbc
Black Death at least would be treatable with antibiotics.

Today in UK 3,959,784 Cases recorded, mortality 112,798.

112798/3959784*100 = 2.84 %

So unless you know exactly how many infections there have been, or re-infection rate, it's difficult to use anything but known facts.
08/02/2021 23:18:31 1 0
bbc
The Infection Fatality Rate for Covid 19 is just below 1% in the UK. The ONS figures show deaths from C19 each month since the outbreak started exceed the average for flu/pneumonia. https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/deathsduetocovid19comparedwithdeathsfrominfluenzaandpneumonia
12
08/02/2021 10:46:05 30 50
bbc
Should have an All Ireland just Re unite the 32
93
08/02/2021 11:07:15 7 7
bbc
Any primary maths student knows, 6 into 26 won't go?
151
08/02/2021 11:19:30 6 4
bbc
Oh but it does - there is a remainder though - it just bogs off to Scotland with Arlene !
37
08/02/2021 10:53:48 13 8
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until the UK locks down ports and borders ONE new strain after another will keep entering the UK DAY IN DAY OUT .the South Africa still has 7 days of open UK ports
to increase its presences in the UK .STILL NO TESTING OF ARRIVLES TO THE UK
OVER 1 YEAR LATER ?
its only a matter of time before a FAR MORE deadly strain enters the UK
ALL PEOPLE ENTERING THE UK OR ROI must be tested on Arrival
94
08/02/2021 11:07:19 6 2
bbc
More could and should have been done earlier, I agree. But at the end of the day we're all just going to have to get used to this new kid on a block previously occupied mainly by influenza.

We can't go autarkic on a permanent basis (we're not North Korea), and we have had a timely reminder that life is not risk-free and that death is a part of life.
I live in Strabane can we start fining these free staters who cross the border unnecessarily to buy truck loads of drink it's bloody ridiculous you go to Asda an you can't even get a case of beer they Hoover them all up. Removed
95
08/02/2021 11:08:09 48 5
bbc
It's the job of the Gardaí to impose the 5km restriction on Donegal residents.
96
08/02/2021 11:08:33 1 1
bbc
Sinister language! How do they plan to ‘detect’ adults travelling across the border?
116
08/02/2021 11:12:49 4 2
bbc
We are to become Singapore-on-Thames, remember?
If you go to Singapore you will not see a policemen anywhere
This is because they watch you on CCtv
Singapore is a police state
165
08/02/2021 11:20:46 2 2
bbc
well you see theres this line, its called the border....

and if a car with UK plates drives over that line....

They have detected the adult driver!
37
08/02/2021 10:53:48 13 8
bbc
until the UK locks down ports and borders ONE new strain after another will keep entering the UK DAY IN DAY OUT .the South Africa still has 7 days of open UK ports
to increase its presences in the UK .STILL NO TESTING OF ARRIVLES TO THE UK
OVER 1 YEAR LATER ?
its only a matter of time before a FAR MORE deadly strain enters the UK
ALL PEOPLE ENTERING THE UK OR ROI must be tested on Arrival
97
08/02/2021 11:08:51 2 5
bbc
"its only a matter of time before a FAR MORE deadly strain enters the UK"

If you're right then the only logical approach is to expose as many people as possible to existing strains to build up some population immunity.

So end lockdowns now...
98
08/02/2021 11:09:03 81 38
bbc
You can be fined within England and within Scotland for breaking the rules, so being fined 'within the Island of Ireland' doesn't seem so unreasonable.
But I'm sure many on here will blame the EEEEEYOU anyway.....
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OwO
08/02/2021 11:55:48 72 42
bbc
Remember the GFA they were all in hysterics about? I know you do, you never shut up about it.

That is now lying it tatters, the second assault on it within as many weeks. But it's okay because it wasn't the UK govt that did it? Feel fry to try and explain that one away.
485
08/02/2021 12:06:53 12 7
bbc
Yes we will, because. the EU have messed things up, and then tried to retrieve their mistake with draconian action which fell apart.
08/02/2021 17:40:16 1 1
bbc
We shouldn't be crossing county boundaries in Great Britain.
The same applies to Ireland.
08/02/2021 17:40:52 5 3
bbc
It used to be Germany, the Geermans, to get all the blame. Now it's the EEEyou. Which, as we all know of course, is run by the bloody Geeermans innit? Innit? Oh...
08/02/2021 20:27:25 0 0
bbc
Hilarious. In a single, ill-informed stroke you reunified Ireland!!! Awesome. I would vote for you tomorrow...Hilarious.
08/02/2021 21:02:54 1 2
bbc
No, this time the Irish. How come after 10 months, they suddenly, 2 weeks after the EU closed the border, the Irish do too? Yet a hard border 'will break the GFA and reignite the troubles' if the UK left the EU. - Any stick to beat the UK.
52
08/02/2021 10:57:08 140 19
bbc
Need to shut down movement from the highly infected countries where the more lethal variants are present just as the UK is doing with South Africa and Brazil.
99
08/02/2021 11:09:04 10 3
bbc
And the rest of the world is doing with the UK variant.
69
08/02/2021 11:02:57 12 14
bbc
Ah yes, let's weaponise the situation and have another dig at nationalists...

Routine.
100
08/02/2021 11:06:24 4 4
bbc
Not one thing I said is anything other than the truth.
133
08/02/2021 11:16:19 5 5
bbc
You wouldn't know the truth if it kicked you up the backside. There are three points of entry from GB to NI.

There are approximately 300 points of entry at the invisible land border.