Covid: Outdoor education centres bid to reopen after Easter
10/02/2021 | news | education | 24
Overnight trips away from home will help boost pupils' wellbeing after lockdown, say outdoor leaders.
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10/02/2021 12:45:54 19 1
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As I have almost certainly been down that scalloped crawl in my very distant youth, I am all for outdoor activity centres startimg up again.
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10/02/2021 14:12:31 1 8
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Best keep everyone locked up at home. It's the only way to stay safe.
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10/02/2021 14:38:13 2 17
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Just another shabby self interested gang like pubs and airlines all wanting to be special.

Bad holidays are not required at all. Not for supposed grown adults nor children. These are not remotely education, they are skiving by those that like such junk activity and torture for the rest.

Herding humans large or small into groups to play or to fake education is not remotely sensible in a pandemic.
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10/02/2021 15:23:02 15 1
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Sorry that you don’t understand our industry. As an outdoor instructor/guide, we do provide educational trips. For example, when I take a group of children coasteering, they do have fun but that I also teach them about a coastal regions they learn and interact with rock pools. Learn about sea weeds and coastal birds. They also learn about key components of teamwork.
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11/02/2021 06:49:51 2 1
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Says the man who, on another thread, appears to believe that people know all the English they need to before they go to school. You really can't join things up, which is ironic, because that's about your level!
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TJ
11/02/2021 12:02:58 2 1
bbc
Good grief JSG your misanthropy knows no bounds! As an autodidact I am sure you are familiar with the works of E.M.Forster - Every day your twisted vision of society gets one step closer to The Machine Stops. You really need to get out more but thanks for the amusing lunch break reading.
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10/02/2021 14:38:13 2 17
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Just another shabby self interested gang like pubs and airlines all wanting to be special.

Bad holidays are not required at all. Not for supposed grown adults nor children. These are not remotely education, they are skiving by those that like such junk activity and torture for the rest.

Herding humans large or small into groups to play or to fake education is not remotely sensible in a pandemic.
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10/02/2021 15:23:02 15 1
bbc
Sorry that you don’t understand our industry. As an outdoor instructor/guide, we do provide educational trips. For example, when I take a group of children coasteering, they do have fun but that I also teach them about a coastal regions they learn and interact with rock pools. Learn about sea weeds and coastal birds. They also learn about key components of teamwork.
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10/02/2021 17:38:58 1 10
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Oh I understand and your use of ‘industry' says everything. It gets to charge a great deal more money than leaning such minor things by normal means that do not involve long travelling and possibly charging for 'hotel' services. Such activity is the role of parents not industry, paid staff making a profit out of it.
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10/02/2021 17:55:42 7 1
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Well said. The holidays you offer are hugely beneficial for children's confidence and in broadening their experience.

I hope you're back in business as quickly as it can be done safely.
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10/02/2021 18:41:59 8 1
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You need to know that JamesStGeorge is a home-schooling obsessive with some rather bizarre views about how to bring up children.
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10/02/2021 16:23:56 12 0
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While kids have undoubtedly been missing out on interacting with their peers over lockdown, there has been nothing at all stopping them from intersacting with nature. A walk in the park with a couple of cheap nature guides can open up a whole world of revelation. Learning to identify trees, weeds, birds & insects can all be done within a short walk even in an inner city.
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10/02/2021 17:19:17 2 12
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Just another lobby group making noise. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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10/02/2021 15:23:02 15 1
bbc
Sorry that you don’t understand our industry. As an outdoor instructor/guide, we do provide educational trips. For example, when I take a group of children coasteering, they do have fun but that I also teach them about a coastal regions they learn and interact with rock pools. Learn about sea weeds and coastal birds. They also learn about key components of teamwork.
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10/02/2021 17:38:58 1 10
bbc
Oh I understand and your use of ‘industry' says everything. It gets to charge a great deal more money than leaning such minor things by normal means that do not involve long travelling and possibly charging for 'hotel' services. Such activity is the role of parents not industry, paid staff making a profit out of it.
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10/02/2021 18:06:53 7 1
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Don’t belittle the things we do. The training and qualifications we go through. Not every parent is able and capable to take their children on adventurous activities like kayaking and climbing. I’ve encouraged children and adults a like to overcome their fears. These things aren’t minor. They encourage children to discover different sports that they don’t see in school.
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10/02/2021 17:49:32 6 1
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I understand the worry and concern about reopening this sector, but the fact still remains that the whole industry has been closed for 12 months, how they are expected to weather the storm further is crazy. What isn’t explained well here is that many schools rely heavily on these providers for curriculum support, including training and coursework for a large number of academic specifications.
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10/02/2021 15:23:02 15 1
bbc
Sorry that you don’t understand our industry. As an outdoor instructor/guide, we do provide educational trips. For example, when I take a group of children coasteering, they do have fun but that I also teach them about a coastal regions they learn and interact with rock pools. Learn about sea weeds and coastal birds. They also learn about key components of teamwork.
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10/02/2021 17:55:42 7 1
bbc
Well said. The holidays you offer are hugely beneficial for children's confidence and in broadening their experience.

I hope you're back in business as quickly as it can be done safely.
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10/02/2021 17:38:58 1 10
bbc
Oh I understand and your use of ‘industry' says everything. It gets to charge a great deal more money than leaning such minor things by normal means that do not involve long travelling and possibly charging for 'hotel' services. Such activity is the role of parents not industry, paid staff making a profit out of it.
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10/02/2021 18:06:53 7 1
bbc
Don’t belittle the things we do. The training and qualifications we go through. Not every parent is able and capable to take their children on adventurous activities like kayaking and climbing. I’ve encouraged children and adults a like to overcome their fears. These things aren’t minor. They encourage children to discover different sports that they don’t see in school.
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ts
10/02/2021 18:45:48 6 1
bbc
I wouldn’t take it personally. This person thinks that children should spend their lives locked away in front of a computer. He will never need to make these decisions as he does not have children. My eldest is due to go to an activity centre in Dartmoor in the summer-fingers crossed! All the best and I hope that you can get back on your feet and make more memories.
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10/02/2021 22:27:47 1 3
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Useless sports practically no one does once they leave school. Let alone niche kayaking or climbing done once on a school herd trip. Like most people ever have access to water and rock faces. No problem people doing such stuff as a hobby, just no place pushing it on children pretending it is education. It is a holiday sector business. Holidays are illegal as the PM says!
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10/02/2021 15:23:02 15 1
bbc
Sorry that you don’t understand our industry. As an outdoor instructor/guide, we do provide educational trips. For example, when I take a group of children coasteering, they do have fun but that I also teach them about a coastal regions they learn and interact with rock pools. Learn about sea weeds and coastal birds. They also learn about key components of teamwork.
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10/02/2021 18:41:59 8 1
bbc
You need to know that JamesStGeorge is a home-schooling obsessive with some rather bizarre views about how to bring up children.
10
10/02/2021 18:06:53 7 1
bbc
Don’t belittle the things we do. The training and qualifications we go through. Not every parent is able and capable to take their children on adventurous activities like kayaking and climbing. I’ve encouraged children and adults a like to overcome their fears. These things aren’t minor. They encourage children to discover different sports that they don’t see in school.
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ts
10/02/2021 18:45:48 6 1
bbc
I wouldn’t take it personally. This person thinks that children should spend their lives locked away in front of a computer. He will never need to make these decisions as he does not have children. My eldest is due to go to an activity centre in Dartmoor in the summer-fingers crossed! All the best and I hope that you can get back on your feet and make more memories.
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10/02/2021 19:31:34 3 3
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kids are weird enough nowadays... get them out in the fresh air...without covering their little faces with masks (ive honesty seen some abusive parents do this, its horrifying)

See the data and notice that healthy children are at zero risk from Covid death and stop all the hysterics.
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10/02/2021 18:06:53 7 1
bbc
Don’t belittle the things we do. The training and qualifications we go through. Not every parent is able and capable to take their children on adventurous activities like kayaking and climbing. I’ve encouraged children and adults a like to overcome their fears. These things aren’t minor. They encourage children to discover different sports that they don’t see in school.
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10/02/2021 22:27:47 1 3
bbc
Useless sports practically no one does once they leave school. Let alone niche kayaking or climbing done once on a school herd trip. Like most people ever have access to water and rock faces. No problem people doing such stuff as a hobby, just no place pushing it on children pretending it is education. It is a holiday sector business. Holidays are illegal as the PM says!
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11/02/2021 05:27:56 4 1
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OEC essentially raises the self esteem,instills core values of team work which cross over into all walks of life.Yes activities are fun and so they should be!Education runs along side every activity. Education is key.Running science course relating science to the really world involves specific equipment.Beach,cave,river, mountain surveys to name a few.I look forward to the sector reopening.
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10/02/2021 14:38:13 2 17
bbc
Just another shabby self interested gang like pubs and airlines all wanting to be special.

Bad holidays are not required at all. Not for supposed grown adults nor children. These are not remotely education, they are skiving by those that like such junk activity and torture for the rest.

Herding humans large or small into groups to play or to fake education is not remotely sensible in a pandemic.
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11/02/2021 06:49:51 2 1
bbc
Says the man who, on another thread, appears to believe that people know all the English they need to before they go to school. You really can't join things up, which is ironic, because that's about your level!
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TJ
11/02/2021 12:04:19 2 1
bbc
Quick game of JSG Bingo anyone? 'Dump', 'Herd', 'Junk' etc.
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11/02/2021 07:10:14 4 2
bbc
Great news. This industry should have money ploughed into it. The government should be asking extracurricular providers to provide catch up summer schools and afterschool funded clubs paid for by the government. Take the power away from the unions. We'll still be arguing about teachers contracts and pay rises long after many of the affected children have left school otherwise.
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11/02/2021 11:20:51 0 1
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My only issue with the Outdoor Education sector is that it doesn't reach enough inner city children or poor families. But that isn't the fault of the providers - they have been campaigning about it for years - it is down to schools and local education authorities. Oh, and insurers.
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10/02/2021 14:38:13 2 17
bbc
Just another shabby self interested gang like pubs and airlines all wanting to be special.

Bad holidays are not required at all. Not for supposed grown adults nor children. These are not remotely education, they are skiving by those that like such junk activity and torture for the rest.

Herding humans large or small into groups to play or to fake education is not remotely sensible in a pandemic.
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TJ
11/02/2021 12:02:58 2 1
bbc
Good grief JSG your misanthropy knows no bounds! As an autodidact I am sure you are familiar with the works of E.M.Forster - Every day your twisted vision of society gets one step closer to The Machine Stops. You really need to get out more but thanks for the amusing lunch break reading.
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11/02/2021 06:49:51 2 1
bbc
Says the man who, on another thread, appears to believe that people know all the English they need to before they go to school. You really can't join things up, which is ironic, because that's about your level!
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TJ
11/02/2021 12:04:19 2 1
bbc
Quick game of JSG Bingo anyone? 'Dump', 'Herd', 'Junk' etc.
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11/02/2021 15:48:08 3 1
bbc
You missed the classic 'log on at near midnight, make a useless point and wait for the comments to close, so that you can make the final statement'. Classic JSG.
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TJ
11/02/2021 12:04:19 2 1
bbc
Quick game of JSG Bingo anyone? 'Dump', 'Herd', 'Junk' etc.
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11/02/2021 15:48:08 3 1
bbc
You missed the classic 'log on at near midnight, make a useless point and wait for the comments to close, so that you can make the final statement'. Classic JSG.
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11/02/2021 18:46:05 1 1
bbc
Good to see my followers bonding lol. Getting the message.
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TJ
11/02/2021 19:02:02 2 1
bbc
I think the word 'outdoor' confused him. Obviously hasn't been anywhere near it for years. Might actually involve him making contact with the real world.
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11/02/2021 15:48:08 3 1
bbc
You missed the classic 'log on at near midnight, make a useless point and wait for the comments to close, so that you can make the final statement'. Classic JSG.
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11/02/2021 18:46:05 1 1
bbc
Good to see my followers bonding lol. Getting the message.
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11/02/2021 15:48:08 3 1
bbc
You missed the classic 'log on at near midnight, make a useless point and wait for the comments to close, so that you can make the final statement'. Classic JSG.
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TJ
11/02/2021 19:02:02 2 1
bbc
I think the word 'outdoor' confused him. Obviously hasn't been anywhere near it for years. Might actually involve him making contact with the real world.
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11/02/2021 22:33:19 1 1
bbc
My idea of hell as a child... I managed to get out of it. Preferred double maths to extra PE. I think the maths has been more useful.