Covid vaccines extremely safe, finds UK regulator
05/02/2021 | news | health | 1,935
Almost all the side-effects of the two vaccines being used in the UK are mild and expected, says MHRA.
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05/02/2021 11:55:53 501 26
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I felt rough the next day but fine after that. A small price to pay. Well done Oxford scientists
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05/02/2021 11:58:34 254 10
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I was the same and I concur.
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05/02/2021 12:11:22 57 5
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But that was the 2 bottles of red wine you had to celebrate !
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05/02/2021 12:22:02 64 22
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Who the hell down-votes comments like these?
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05/02/2021 12:26:48 5 25
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The Sun readers will be ecstatic
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05/02/2021 12:19:04 9 16
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The second Pfizer dose is where it gets rough. 37.7% of people took painkillers compared to 9.8% in the placebo. But vaccine is worth it still!
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05/02/2021 12:30:33 90 8
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Thanks for posting and reassuring people that this jab is safe.

Far more useful than the report yesterday that stated 1 in 3 people had a 'side effect' of soreness around the injection site.

If someone sticks a piece of steel through your skin and injects a bolus it will create higher pressure in the tissues at the injection site - hence soreness. This is not a side-effect, it is physics.
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05/02/2021 12:45:02 17 2
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Never had any flu type, never had the flu jab, so didn't know what to expect. Other than fatigue and muscle pains which have eased since Tuesday's vaccination, I'm OK and grateful for the NHS and its rapid response.
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05/02/2021 12:57:17 23 3
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Same here. A bit cold, shaky and achy. Early bed with a Lemsip. Woke up feeling great. Pleased to have been 'done'. Thanks, all you scientists, NHS and everyone involved in delivering the vaccine and running the facilities. 2 more weeks and I'll be partially protected. Roll on the next jab!
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05/02/2021 13:05:24 9 3
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Well done for helping us get out of this
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05/02/2021 13:05:39 15 4
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I felt absolutely fine with a slight awareness of where I'd been jabbed. A very small price to pay. One week on I can say that I have had NO side effects and just feel so PRIVILEGED. Don't hesitate when it's your turn. Huge applause for the scientists, nurses and doctors.
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05/02/2021 13:12:00 6 8
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And all other virologists and biochemists and the staff of the MHRA working on vaccines wherever they are. A little too much propaganda skewed to Oxford for my sense of fair play.
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05/02/2021 13:30:00 13 2
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I felt very rough the next day but am fine now and quite happy to go through same when I have my second, it is worth it to keep me safe so I can carry on my frontline work with vulnerable people
05/02/2021 14:51:36 2 2
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Weird that there isn't a single 'if you take the vaccine God kills a puppy' type anti vax lunatic fringe post in that whole set, or the even better 'DNA changing vaccine' or the classic 'made entirely of children vaccine'. Hope the minor aches are out of the way soon!
05/02/2021 15:09:46 5 1
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I had the Pfizer vax. Just felt a little tired the next day. They check your allergies etc before you are injected. Well worth it both for myself and to help protect the NHS.
05/02/2021 15:32:19 0 11
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You won't be saying that, when you are dead and buried.
06/02/2021 08:33:31 0 0
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.It's a shame that the late Capt Tom did not have the vaccine before he and his family jetted off to Barbados in December. Getting vaccinated should have been the priority.
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05/02/2021 11:56:14 108 16
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The best side effect is surely "Sore Arm". You've just had a needle stuck in your arm so can't imagine why it might be a little sore? Should this be classed as a "Side Effect"?
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05/02/2021 12:02:11 51 18
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Absolutely agree, lets call this a side effect on the poor wee things getting a sore arm. Oh whats the side effects of a leg amputation ? Cant walk properly anymore will top the list, and thats for us people who live in the world of the bleedin' obvious.
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05/02/2021 12:24:08 6 1
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Full, it's not describing the small pain of the Jab itself but a longer lasting soreness felt by some.
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05/02/2021 13:27:46 3 3
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Ingoramus. A side effect is an outcome that you would not have had if you hadn't had the intervention. They range from mild to serious. Common to rare. They are all listed, always. Grow up.
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05/02/2021 14:04:44 3 0
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I'd go with the risk of a sore arm as a symptom over death and decomposition every time
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05/02/2021 14:08:56 3 0
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To be fair, the feeling in my arm was worse than any other jab I've had - I could barely move my arm the next day. It's worth mentioning as a significant side effect because I don't think I could have safely driven with it. Most of my (NHS) colleagues had the same.

Absolutely still get your jabs of course, but let's not dismiss actual side effects.
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05/02/2021 14:33:51 3 0
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Anyone remember the BCG jab ? Wow what a sore arm that gave, and wow what fun the other boys had at school punching each other in the arm shouting 'is that your BCG arm !!! ' Vaccines and sore arms go er hand in hand really.
05/02/2021 16:02:33 0 0
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Yeah maybe side effect of taking paracetomol is a strange lumpy feeling in throat when swallowing pill.
05/02/2021 16:12:08 0 0
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No, sometimes people get inflammation and swelling of the arm in reaction to a vaccination - it's not about the scratch.
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05/02/2021 17:47:10 0 0
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MY arms are on my left and right SIDE, so, yes, it is a side effect! If I'd had the needle in my chest, then it would be a 'front' effect!! D'oh!!!
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05/02/2021 11:56:38 16 54
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Lets revisit the 'extremely safe' in 5 Years time.
I had the polo jab 25 years ago. I'm STILL SAFE. Nutjob Removed
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 16 1
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We know adenoviruses have excellent long term safety profiles as we've used them as vehicles for years, there is absolutely no biological reason to think that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine would be any different. And anyone who thinks that mRNA "changes your DNA" needs to go back to school, no it doesn't, it doesn't even enter the nucleus. Ironically it's actually viruses that change your DNA.
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05/02/2021 12:03:54 10 2
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Or ten years. Or twenty. Or maybe more. Let's feed the uncertainty for as long as we can!
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05/02/2021 11:57:19 21 14
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Hoping these work for the most vulnerable, who are most at risk, but once they're covered, the country should open up.
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05/02/2021 13:32:41 14 0
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You haven’t been listening properly. Priority groups 1-4 (the over 70s) contribute to 80% of Covid deaths. The next priority groups 5-9 ( over 50s and the clinically vulnerable) are most likely to end up in hospital or ICU. Pressure on hospitals won’t be lifted until we vaccinate all the over 50s and the clinically vulnerable.
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05/02/2021 11:57:52 361 9
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Just had mine this morning - a complete non-event and very efficient. Thanks NHS and all involved.
How do you know it's efficient?
If it's so efficient, why has Switzerland banned the Oxford vaccine?
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05/02/2021 15:42:19 0 5
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Wait until you are dead.
LH
05/02/2021 17:26:56 0 0
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Hardly a "non-event", I would suggest!!!
05/02/2021 19:07:48 0 0
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Had mine two days ago. Less problems then the Flu jab. No sore arm, nothing. Well done to all involved, including all the volunteers who gave up their time to make everything work so well.
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05/02/2021 11:55:53 501 26
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I felt rough the next day but fine after that. A small price to pay. Well done Oxford scientists
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05/02/2021 11:58:34 254 10
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I was the same and I concur.
05/02/2021 15:32:56 1 10
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Everyone concurs like a bunch of lemmings
Oh dear this won't please the loonies like Corbyn's brother. Or the disgusting mob who wait outside hospitals to abuse staff. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:04:57 146 15
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It’s no good just giving them a slapped wrist and a fine. A spot of prison would stop them terrorising exhausted hospital staff.
Anyway according to them it’s all a hoax so they won’t have to worry about catching covid in prison!
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05/02/2021 12:15:30 18 6
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Or Macron
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05/02/2021 12:34:48 15 3
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Totally agree. They should hose them off the streets.
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05/02/2021 12:56:34 6 0
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The Corbynsof this world not worth talking about. Keep on vaccinations
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05/02/2021 13:06:39 4 1
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Those who abuse hospital workers should be taken to the Covid wards without PPE and shown the true state of affairs. It might stop one or two cowards.
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05/02/2021 13:27:25 0 5
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I'm not saying this isn't a genuine vaccine but do you believe conspiracy theorists will change their views based on this. If a country is capable of giving someone a dodgy vaccine then they are capable of lying that it's safe. Always makes me giggle when a figure such as Biden has his vaccine on TV. Do you really know what injection he's truly having? Not saying I believe otherwise but some will
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05/02/2021 13:35:02 1 0
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The police should take photos of the loonies and when they go down with the virus and turn up at the hospital for treatment, give them the treatment they deserve - bus fare home and the contact number of an undertaker.
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05/02/2021 13:36:52 0 0
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Why highlight the negatives?
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05/02/2021 13:44:45 0 1
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How did you manage to bring Corbyn's brother into this?
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05/02/2021 11:59:44 308 42
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Wednesday Britain vaccinated 469000 people. France vaccinated less than 500.

We are doing something right to open up the country.
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05/02/2021 12:20:45 161 52
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We're not safe until everyone is vaccinated unfortunately. It's good that we're doing well with the vaccine (thank you NHS and the public sector), it's in our interest that other countries are receiving the vaccines quickly too.
And thats why we had to bail them in out in 1939 nothing changes Removed
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05/02/2021 12:47:24 9 4
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Thanks to all the people vaccinated and all the people who have manufactured, distributed and injected the vaccine in the UK people in other countries have no need to worry about being vaccinated
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05/02/2021 12:49:36 6 1
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It might be to soon to open everything up.
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05/02/2021 12:56:30 10 4
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It is impressive. We should be able to say this without being called nationalist, anti-EU etc - the UK has rolled out the vaccine in a phenomenal fashion. As for the EU, lots of talk as usual, but not very effective. My partner is French and her mother is back in France - on her own, no support bubbles, curfew, no sign of her vaccine.
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05/02/2021 13:00:29 4 5
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More fake news,,,, France has near 2M done today. (also virus rate v low in areas, no panic to get vaccine) Plus Germany is also flying,.. They only got going past weeks, my mum had hers 2 months (6/12/20) ago here, so don't bum to quickly,
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05/02/2021 13:00:49 7 7
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why this obsession with comparing the UK vaccination with France? really sickening, school playground stuff....
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05/02/2021 13:12:38 2 5
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France also has 500 deaths per day, while the UK has 1500...
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05/02/2021 13:19:27 3 2
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Yes it’s great, but unfortunately at the rate France is go It’s going to be the next century before it’s safe to visit there.
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05/02/2021 13:25:24 2 4
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france have no staff to vaccinate ,they are all trained to take sandwiches of our drivers and people stopping seafood from entering france that was alright pre brexit but is dangerous after we left, i dont think its fair to ridicule france when you see the above problems i mentioned
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05/02/2021 13:31:55 2 3
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Britain has a far more serious situation than France and the rest of Europe/the world. The UK government is trying to speed up things. What's your point anyway? Why don't you compare the number of deaths and infections? Who do you think has had a better response to the pandemic?
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05/02/2021 13:56:15 1 0
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Exactly. I feel sorry for places like Africa and India though...
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05/02/2021 11:56:38 16 54
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Lets revisit the 'extremely safe' in 5 Years time.
I had the polo jab 25 years ago. I'm STILL SAFE. Nutjob Removed
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05/02/2021 12:00:32 65 7
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Brilliant news. Even better will be once the studies show how long protection is good for - hopefully longer than the current annual flu jab.
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05/02/2021 13:03:05 11 110
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Odd are it will be an annual jab, there is alot of money to be made by the mega rich in making it so, look at Gates
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05/02/2021 11:56:38 16 54
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Lets revisit the 'extremely safe' in 5 Years time.
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 16 1
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We know adenoviruses have excellent long term safety profiles as we've used them as vehicles for years, there is absolutely no biological reason to think that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine would be any different. And anyone who thinks that mRNA "changes your DNA" needs to go back to school, no it doesn't, it doesn't even enter the nucleus. Ironically it's actually viruses that change your DNA.
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 11 25
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Too early to say, we have to wait to see after 2 years !
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05/02/2021 12:05:03 11 2
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Don’t take it then. Accept the risk.
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05/02/2021 12:13:49 0 1
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Your choice, of course - but on the whole I would say take it when it's offered.
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05/02/2021 12:15:07 1 1
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Jesus Christ, you're never happy... An absolute miserable so and so.
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05/02/2021 13:17:54 0 0
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I would rather take our vaccine than any one made in China.
05/02/2021 14:33:11 0 0
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Go away - you aren't even in the UK.
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05/02/2021 12:01:03 64 30
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Let me just save the HYS brigade a lot of trouble.

Well done red white & Blue sovereign Oxford scientists.
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05/02/2021 12:02:32 32 2
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Think the second paragraph explains this relates mostly to the Pfizer vaccine.
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05/02/2021 14:03:01 5 1
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Sounding very nationalistic, are we? Please check this link https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/team?tab=researchers. Quite a number of researchers ARE NOT BRITISH. You must be missing colonial pride and superiority.
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05/02/2021 12:01:41 298 6
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Now 1 in 5 adults have had vaccines any serious reactions would have been noticeable. The mild reactions seem to be in line with those of the annual flu jab.
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05/02/2021 12:13:52 179 6
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You are right, the longer the vaccination campaign goes on, the more we understand about the vaccination Programme and it’s effects. This benefits everybody worldwide.
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05/02/2021 12:51:34 9 37
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Its good there have been few short term effects, but what we dont know is how the vax affects in the longer term, that is a safety measure that cannot be fast tracked, a study of an adverse effects after 5 years takes 5 years

PS I also wonder why Hancock was laughing (fake crying) in his vax speech on TV, that worries me, what does he know, why was he laughing
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05/02/2021 13:12:20 2 21
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That doesn't mean the Oxford is efficient in protecting against Covid though
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05/02/2021 13:32:28 6 33
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If the vaccines are 100% safe then why will the manufacturers not accept any liability if there are any problems?
Part of the supply contract is that they cannot be held responsible or be sued.
What are they afraid of????
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05/02/2021 13:37:29 5 21
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It would also be noticeable if we were in the middle of an actual dangerous epidemic. We wouldn't need daily fear mongering from the government or media...
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05/02/2021 14:07:14 11 0
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I had virtually no reaction, a slightly sore arm, on receiving the Pfizer jab. My reaction to flu jabs is always much worse.
05/02/2021 15:52:21 0 1
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What a complete load of garbage, Dr Tosh!
05/02/2021 16:54:04 1 1
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If you have a history of serious allergic reactions to vaccines you are advised not to take this one. That's why there haven't been any serious reactions.

There were serious reactions on the first day because the advice was for everyone to have it. That changed after people with a history of serious reactions had serious reactions.
Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines, particularly that shouted by the little Napoleon wannabe in France, and what's his name in Ireland. Sour grapes, not facts, coming out of the EU now. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:03:24 92 51
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FACT even the remoaners are turning on them. WIN WIN
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05/02/2021 12:13:51 25 39
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1. It's not rubbish coming from the EU
2. The EU aren't jealous
3. Neither is Macron
4. Or the bloke in Ireland
5. There are no sour grapes coming from the EU.

These are just projections coming from a paranoid mind. Seek professional help!
The ambivalence on the subject must be unbearable for the anti-vaxxer lot who are ALL rabidly anti-EU!
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05/02/2021 12:18:56 12 25
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Brexiteers will be working themselves into an early grave over this. Fun to watch
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05/02/2021 12:20:52 35 20
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The EU have made a total pigs dinner of the vaccine rollout.

Brexit was a dumb choice voted for by thickos.

These two facts can peacefully coexist.
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05/02/2021 12:22:32 7 2
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Looks like you can't ignore it
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05/02/2021 12:40:08 15 9
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Gosh, you are a bitter little person. Can you not bring yourself to celebrate our own success (rare in our overall handling of the pandemic) without feeling the need to spew bile over foreigners? Little England at its worst.
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05/02/2021 12:45:56 8 7
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Ignore the anti EU trolls
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05/02/2021 12:46:52 3 4
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I had the Pfizer one yesterday. "Thank you NHS and Danke Deutschland uber alles"
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05/02/2021 12:54:27 3 6
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Ok, since you know all the FACTS, what was in the UK-Astra-Zeneca contract? The EU represents a lot of people who could die from lack of vaccines. You think that's fine?

No many facts coming from you either. Just emotions. Why not back it up with YOUR facts?
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05/02/2021 12:57:03 7 8
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Unfortunately for you nobody is jealous, the EU tends to value safety above speedboats and .....( oh maybe you've missed it )... Switzerland did not approve the Astrzeneka vaccine until further trials are finished....and yes you may not know it but the Swiss are not part of the EU and so far they seem to agree with Macron !
hahahahaha... nice one, 'sour grapes'? hahaha... that's great coming from a HYS troll.

Please send more jokes ;)
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05/02/2021 13:19:24 2 3
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Lol, only Brexiteers could turn this into a benefit of brexit. It's the only benefit you see, I'll let you have it.
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05/02/2021 13:31:45 1 0
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mr macron the french version of...inch high private eye is a joke and has let his wonderfull french people down in using his energy against uk during brexit
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05/02/2021 13:39:45 2 0
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Yeah... Rule Britannia! Please stop this nationalistic rhetoric. What about the record number of deaths and infections in the UK? One of the highest in the world. There are many questions to be answered and lessons to be learned.
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05/02/2021 11:56:14 108 16
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The best side effect is surely "Sore Arm". You've just had a needle stuck in your arm so can't imagine why it might be a little sore? Should this be classed as a "Side Effect"?
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05/02/2021 12:02:11 51 18
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Absolutely agree, lets call this a side effect on the poor wee things getting a sore arm. Oh whats the side effects of a leg amputation ? Cant walk properly anymore will top the list, and thats for us people who live in the world of the bleedin' obvious.
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05/02/2021 12:02:18 160 9
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Well done all scientists the world over
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05/02/2021 13:24:32 47 49
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Hmmmmm, not about saying well done to the scientists in the coronavirus lab in Wuhan....
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05/02/2021 13:35:58 2 1
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totally agree but a shame media put them under pressure to politicise them ,
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05/02/2021 14:17:06 4 0
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Its amazing when the best doctors/scientist in the world put their heads together, work together & get sufficient funding and come up with a life changing vaccine. A pity the anti-vaxxers who have their doubts about the safety of the vaccines can't see that's why the world has produced these vaccines so quickly and to rigorous safety specifications. BEST SPECIALISTS WORKING TOGETHER & FUNDING.
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05/02/2021 17:37:57 1 1
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Even those in Chine, who, allegedly, released the virus???!!!
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05/02/2021 12:02:30 220 11
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Slightly sore arm 12 hours after the injection followed by weird headache lasting a couple of minutes on three occasions approximately three days later that didn't require analgesia. And then a warm feeling of reassurance that I am less likely to develop a serious covid-related infection. And I agree, the process at Norfolk & Norwich University was run EXCEPTIONALLY well! All due credit! Fantastic
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05/02/2021 12:17:51 95 6
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I'm pleased for you, and this all goes to show that any serious side effect is *extremely* rare and in almost all cases would only occur with a person with a previous history of significant allergic reactions. I'll certainly have mine when my turn comes!
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05/02/2021 12:20:29 6 1
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Great hospital, fine City !!
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05/02/2021 12:51:01 1 2
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You know the old local saying....
‘Normal for Norfolk’
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05/02/2021 13:15:42 11 0
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Stiff arm likely to be due to the muscle effect of the needle rather than the vaccine. Gone after two days. No other symptoms other than delight to see brunches of daffodils in supermarkets which bring me cheer!
Just hope the whole world feel this way soon
05/02/2021 16:23:25 2 0
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I had Oxford. Very tired next day, few days later also weird kind of headache lasting several days, which was unpleasant. But who knows if it was related to the jab, either way a small price to pay to avoid the unpredictable and nasty cocktail of COVID symptoms
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05/02/2021 12:01:03 64 30
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Let me just save the HYS brigade a lot of trouble.

Well done red white & Blue sovereign Oxford scientists.
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05/02/2021 12:02:32 32 2
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Think the second paragraph explains this relates mostly to the Pfizer vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:13:21 8 3
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Hats off to the 'red white and blue' civil servants for getting this pfizer vaccine booked early enough to ensure supplies for the country meet our needs.
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05/02/2021 12:14:49 12 3
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You mean the German one, backed by America’s Pfizer?
Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines, particularly that shouted by the little Napoleon wannabe in France, and what's his name in Ireland. Sour grapes, not facts, coming out of the EU now. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:03:24 92 51
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FACT even the remoaners are turning on them. WIN WIN
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05/02/2021 12:13:51 13 14
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Although they will never admit to it. ??
FACT? Why are gammon thick as mince? Removed
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05/02/2021 12:23:53 6 4
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FACT, this is probably the only point on which we agree, sorry you're still clutching at straws...........?
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05/02/2021 13:25:52 2 2
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Amazing arrogance form a country that has killed 120k due to incredible incompetence. Total disgrace, failure of leadership, underfunded NHS. So you mock the EU. Absolute clown.
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05/02/2021 12:03:27 13 44
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Sorry but I think we should not be too complacent about this - remember the long term side effects. Thalidomide was hailed as a wonder drug until birth defects started appearing. Not so much a problem for the old but for the younger child bearing age populations need to weigh up the prospect of Covid or the cure being worse than the disease in the long run.
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05/02/2021 12:05:16 37 7
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Thalidomide was not a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:22:59 7 2
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As Didi said, thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine, they knew about risks but they were covered up/ignored. Not so with these vaccines, pregnant women have been advised not to have vaccine as was never tested on pregnant women.
Read all information & not just headlines & social media.
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05/02/2021 12:29:48 3 1
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There is a difference between a vaccine which uses biological methods to stimulate the body's own natural defence systems and is given only once or twice, and a drug which is bio-chemical, hangs around in the system, and is taken regularly over a period of time.
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05/02/2021 12:03:40 168 23
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Trust the UK MHRA or UDL/Macron/Brussels/EU27 petty politics.

No contest really.

Well done to all who have designed/developed/rolled out the various vaccines. A credit to you all, and thanks.
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05/02/2021 13:13:21 20 87
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How do you explain that Switzerland has banned the Oxford vaccine ?
05/02/2021 18:02:47 0 0
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The EMA have licensed all three vaccinations for all adults.
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05/02/2021 11:56:38 16 54
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Lets revisit the 'extremely safe' in 5 Years time.
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05/02/2021 12:03:54 10 2
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Or ten years. Or twenty. Or maybe more. Let's feed the uncertainty for as long as we can!
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:05:49 33 6
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Just in case you are asking. No, not related.
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05/02/2021 12:07:11 26 5
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Oh dear, oh deary me. People like you shouldn’t be allowed the internet.

Vaccines don’t cure you of the disease once you have it.

There are far, far more people getting the vaccine each day now than mid-December. By your logic we wouldn’t have passed the peak and there would be deaths galore from the vaccine.

Jesus Christ. Give. Me. Strength.
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05/02/2021 12:07:37 8 6
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I hope you're joking...
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05/02/2021 12:08:14 5 4
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????????
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05/02/2021 12:08:46 14 5
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Oh dear. No understanding at all.

Recorded Covid deaths includes all deaths within 28 days of a positive test. So people might have died from other causes. Vaccines don’t work instantly. Can take up to three weeks, so you are still at risk during this time. Hence why if you need a top up in your existing vaccines, before travelling abroad, it needs to be weeks in advance.

No conspiracys here!
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05/02/2021 12:09:15 4 14
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I'm assuming you meant vaccine rollout, but yes, this is a fair question. It would be interesting to see the numbers of deaths within 28 days of a vaccine being administered, but I doubt that's a counter they'd want on every news bulletin.
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05/02/2021 12:09:32 9 3
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The Deaths are related to infections occurring 2-4 weeks previously, vaccination will reduce deaths with a corresponding lag. Deaths are indeed coming down. They will only continue to do so if everybody continues to “do their bit”.
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05/02/2021 12:11:01 9 3
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What?
We're not well ahead in deaths, and when comparing like for like nowhere near the worst at all.
I presume you mean vaccine roll out? The vaccine takes around 3 weeks to develop significant immunity, as it's an active vaccine it will do nothing if you already have the disease, we'd need a passive vaccine for that. Dec/Jan deaths are those who had the disease before they could have a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:11:34 14 4
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Get your tinfoil hat on, grab a macci ds and step away from the Internet.

Don't forget 5G is really mind control, so if you have that, switch it off just to be on the safe side.
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05/02/2021 12:13:59 0 5
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Hang on so what you are saying is possibly our vaccination program roll out caused a huge spike in Covid deaths?
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05/02/2021 12:18:40 8 2
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The huge spike in Covid deaths was mainly due to people mixing at Christmas, nothing to do with the vaccine programme!
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05/02/2021 12:19:11 1 4
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I agree that the spike in Covid deaths was related to the virus roll-out in December. The two go together automatically.
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05/02/2021 12:39:48 9 0
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Sarah you are correct, well almost, everyone who has the vaccine will die, eventually. When and what from we don't know yet...

More of a concern for you should be Air, it is a well known fact that everyone who has breathed air eventually dies....take action NOW agaibst this invisible killer!!
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05/02/2021 12:46:46 7 1
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Well done for spotting that Sarah. And I'll tell you another thing! The last Tory election victory directly correlates to my adopting a new dog. Do you think they could be related? Please try to understand the difference between causality and coincidence. Otherwise - please feel free to turn down your vaccine. I think they call it natural selection.
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CJR
05/02/2021 13:10:52 3 0
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Don’t think you really know how a vaccine works. Bless you
05/02/2021 14:43:56 0 0
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Can we assume your (daft) comment should read correlates exactly with the vaccine roll-out, not the virus roll-out? Read what you have written before you press post
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MH
05/02/2021 12:04:13 94 12
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Now tell everyone who has had the vaccination that they are not invulnerable. There are some who believe the rules don't apply to them anymore.
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05/02/2021 12:12:40 50 28
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No one's invulnerable to almost everything, are you going to lockdown forever?
Watch out for getting old, not sure staying in will prevent it happening!
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RG
05/02/2021 12:54:27 2 7
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What was the point in the old timers having it then?
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Ray
05/02/2021 13:18:50 3 6
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Invulnerable What do you mean, die from the effects of Covid even though you are vaccinated or you can still get Covid once the vaccine is effective within you. In the former you are incorrect no one has yet has caught Covid while vaccinated and suffered anything worse than mild symptoms and no one has needed hospitalisation. So once the vaccine is within the majority the rules wont apply anymore
Ray
05/02/2021 15:27:48 0 2
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So I say that the Vaccine is effective, I say that the Vaccine is safe, and I say that the Vaccine is the route back to normality. Yet 6 down arrows are given. Are you all hoping to stay in lockdown and the vaccine fails ? Just asking.
05/02/2021 15:48:07 2 2
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But they're probably the ones who didn't follow them anyway. For the sake of brevity: the thick ones.
Scientists: Years spent in education. Some of the smartest people around to tell us it’s safe to take.

Anti-vaxxers: Sit on the toilet reading obscure “vaccines are trying to control our minds” articles written by someone else sat on the toilet who didn’t pass their A-levels.
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05/02/2021 12:07:45 181 11
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Correct egged on by YouTube "influencers" who rake in thousands the morr views they get.
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05/02/2021 12:28:01 41 3
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"didnt pass their A-levels", you are being too generous; some of these people didnt leave junior school with any skills.
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05/02/2021 12:30:13 58 2
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anti vaxxers are clearly wrong about the vaccine trying to control their minds.

By any definition of 'mind'... they clearly are lacking a functioning one.
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05/02/2021 12:40:25 40 4
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I think anti-vaxxers are just scared of needles and come up with elaborate flummery to try to hide the fact.

Their logic is flawed anyway. It took 3000 years of civilisation to come up with the first vaccine so by their logic, it should take another 3000 years to come up with another one. They really are a sad indictment of modern educational standards.
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05/02/2021 12:41:43 15 1
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Exactly!
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05/02/2021 12:41:01 14 1
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A levels Your being generous
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05/02/2021 12:53:02 8 3
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I'm pro vaccine, but recognise that no vaccine is 100% safe.

Demonising or ridiculing people for their anxieties about being vaccinated is unhelpful. Setting an example by being vaccinated yourself and discussing their fears with them is.

Thankfully, the NHS has learned from the MMR debacle and is not pursuing the route of 'take it or leave it', exclusion from services or coercion using the law.
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05/02/2021 13:27:21 1 0
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That's because the anti-vaxxers have nothing better to do with their lives other than to read garbage and cause controversy. I would rather take my chances with having the vaccine in order to get life back to some normality.
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05/02/2021 12:04:56 18 6
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Wife had severe asthma attacks for a week after having the jab (she hasn't had asthma since she was 5) but all settled down now thankfully.
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05/02/2021 12:06:16 11 40
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And your point is?
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05/02/2021 12:10:14 11 0
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Good to hear she is well.
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CJR
05/02/2021 13:05:15 3 1
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Rather have a attack then to have Covid take me before my time.
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05/02/2021 13:36:14 2 2
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Did a doctor tell you that? I’ve never heard if an asthma attack lasting a week. It’s an acute, not a chronic event.
05/02/2021 14:25:05 1 0
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22,000 reactions out of 7 million jabs, I'd settle for that
Oh dear this won't please the loonies like Corbyn's brother. Or the disgusting mob who wait outside hospitals to abuse staff. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:04:57 146 15
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It’s no good just giving them a slapped wrist and a fine. A spot of prison would stop them terrorising exhausted hospital staff.
Anyway according to them it’s all a hoax so they won’t have to worry about catching covid in prison!
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05/02/2021 12:09:36 24 4
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Correct should be classed as domestic terrorism.
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05/02/2021 12:15:12 25 2
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Residents of the Isle of Man were sent to prison, apparently, for four weeks even for breaking lockdown rules e.g. attempting to travel out and then back onto the island when the borders were closed. The Isle is now out of lockdown completely (but their borders are still closed to outsiders).
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05/02/2021 12:29:03 3 2
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Nothing wrong with UK prisons, lovely places in the main.
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05/02/2021 13:48:13 0 0
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Great idea, we could use all those spare prison places we have.
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 11 25
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Too early to say, we have to wait to see after 2 years !
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05/02/2021 12:05:03 11 2
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Don’t take it then. Accept the risk.
05/02/2021 15:07:34 0 1
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I won't take it. I've accepted the risk since day one. I'll continue to do so
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05/02/2021 12:05:13 29 15
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It seems most of the covid vaccine reseearch was UK funded which is why thr first vaccines are coming here nd not the EU.
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05/02/2021 12:07:01 16 10
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The first came from BionTech with Pfizer.
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05/02/2021 12:42:39 5 1
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Probably, but what is the relevance to this to how effective the vaccines are?
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05/02/2021 14:13:40 3 0
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Check the number of 'foreign' researchers who worked on vaccine research in Britain. Why do you make it political?
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05/02/2021 12:03:27 13 44
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Sorry but I think we should not be too complacent about this - remember the long term side effects. Thalidomide was hailed as a wonder drug until birth defects started appearing. Not so much a problem for the old but for the younger child bearing age populations need to weigh up the prospect of Covid or the cure being worse than the disease in the long run.
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05/02/2021 12:05:16 37 7
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Thalidomide was not a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:12:44 2 7
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No, but the point still stands. It's a novel drug, with a completely novel mechanism of action which more than likely safe but we don't have the benefit of time to tell us what may happen longer term.
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05/02/2021 12:08:43 2 7
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Remainers don't do science.
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ray
05/02/2021 12:24:04 4 1
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Irrelevant
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:05:49 33 6
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Just in case you are asking. No, not related.
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05/02/2021 12:09:54 4 16
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And your evidence is what? Look at Gibralta - 6 deaths in total up until 10th Jan 2021, then within 2 weeks it was up to 70! That's a fact that can be verified.
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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Are you a complete idiot? Removed
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05/02/2021 12:06:04 33 11
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No they aren't! Karen on fb told me so!
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05/02/2021 13:27:42 11 17
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Please stop using the lame bullying term ‘Karen’.
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05/02/2021 12:04:56 18 6
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Wife had severe asthma attacks for a week after having the jab (she hasn't had asthma since she was 5) but all settled down now thankfully.
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05/02/2021 12:06:16 11 40
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And your point is?
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05/02/2021 12:15:42 14 1
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He's reporting side effects. It seems that some people want to put their head in the sand and believe there are none. What's your point?
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05/02/2021 12:18:49 8 12
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I'm glad I'm down voted, not quite sure that there is a causal link with a vaccine and an apparent recurrence of asthma from circa 20-70 years earlier.
Just a pointless, semi scare story.
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05/02/2021 12:28:41 4 4
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Another rumour to add to the mill.
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05/02/2021 12:05:13 29 15
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It seems most of the covid vaccine reseearch was UK funded which is why thr first vaccines are coming here nd not the EU.
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05/02/2021 12:07:01 16 10
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The first came from BionTech with Pfizer.
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05/02/2021 12:12:19 8 4
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Correct but the EU couldn't even get their order in for a GERMAN company.
05/02/2021 15:37:30 0 0
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That was the first approved, not the first developed.
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:07:11 26 5
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Oh dear, oh deary me. People like you shouldn’t be allowed the internet.

Vaccines don’t cure you of the disease once you have it.

There are far, far more people getting the vaccine each day now than mid-December. By your logic we wouldn’t have passed the peak and there would be deaths galore from the vaccine.

Jesus Christ. Give. Me. Strength.
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05/02/2021 12:21:13 0 1
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Not you, active vaccines build your immunity, passive vaccines give you immunity, which generally wears off unless you're exposed to the disease - and were capable of developing an immunity.
First rabies vaccine (passive) cured the patient as it was antibodies from another animal.
Most holiday jabs are passive, you don't have the time to develop immunity from an active vaccine!
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:07:37 8 6
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I hope you're joking...
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05/02/2021 12:23:51 2 1
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I don't think she was joking :-( just misunderstanding...
Scientists: Years spent in education. Some of the smartest people around to tell us it’s safe to take.

Anti-vaxxers: Sit on the toilet reading obscure “vaccines are trying to control our minds” articles written by someone else sat on the toilet who didn’t pass their A-levels.
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05/02/2021 12:07:45 181 11
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Correct egged on by YouTube "influencers" who rake in thousands the morr views they get.
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05/02/2021 12:28:47 7 84
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Unlike MSM who rack in millions from big pharma.
Take your vaccine if you are worried about not being one of 99.991% that survive but if all it does is lesson the effects then in my world that makes it a treatment and there are over the counter drugs that can deal with it in that way.
325 healthy under 65 yr old in over a year, more at risk from drowning, only tv watchers thing pandemic
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05/02/2021 12:47:02 9 0
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The real experts are diet shills and actresses.
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:08:14 5 4
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????????
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cj
05/02/2021 12:08:20 2 6
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Did they get that confirmation from the WhatsApp teachers group?
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05/02/2021 12:08:37 268 13
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I felt rough for 2-3 days. Fevery without actually having a fever. I also previously had covid-19, I'd take 100 vaccines before having that again.
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05/02/2021 12:33:54 94 4
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Thank you for a great comment. You have probably had one of the more serious reactions and can say from experience, objectively, that the benefits of the vaccine massively outweigh the risks.
Might have been the Souness tache that did it; he didn't take sh*t from anyone!
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05/02/2021 12:43:22 10 0
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You probably still had antibodies which meant that you had more of a reaction to the vaccine.
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05/02/2021 13:31:29 5 0
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My mother in law was fine for a few days then developed severe flu like symptoms which cleared up after a couple of hours. No problems since
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05/02/2021 14:08:27 5 1
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I've had family & friends who have had the virus and said similar. All of them young to middle, age all fit/healthy, they have all described it as being the worse thing they have ever experienced.
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05/02/2021 12:08:43 39 31
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Are the BBC going to apologise for all the scare mongering over the last few weeks regarding the Vaccine not working and the MUTANT Variations? When it has now been proved that the vaccines work against ALL variants
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05/02/2021 12:10:08 21 12
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This is a story about safety not effectiveness.
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05/02/2021 12:11:16 5 12
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They won't cos they get paid by the EU commission.
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05/02/2021 12:17:13 6 3
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No, there were no scare stories. It was journalists doing their job and asking questions of the scientists
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05/02/2021 12:18:04 7 0
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No, that has not been proven. I suggest you check your facts.
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05/02/2021 12:20:06 3 0
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Good news. Just need to get on and vaccinate everyone, not just in this country but around the globe.
If those stories scared you, that says more about you.
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05/02/2021 12:27:16 3 4
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So true. They look every day to see if there is something to scare people with crazy mutant stories. Every day a new stupid story. Shame on BBC.
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05/02/2021 12:29:47 5 2
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Why apologise for reporting the news?
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05/02/2021 14:08:49 2 0
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The fact is it will take a few months to get reliable data regarding vaccines and whether they will work against all the new variants. Scientists can speculate for now but only time will tell
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05/02/2021 14:15:55 3 1
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I think you will find they were reporting what scientists were concerned about, prior to tests on the new mutations, but do not let that put off the boring BBC - bashers from their usual Daily Mail- inspired mindless politicised rants.
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:08:46 14 5
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Oh dear. No understanding at all.

Recorded Covid deaths includes all deaths within 28 days of a positive test. So people might have died from other causes. Vaccines don’t work instantly. Can take up to three weeks, so you are still at risk during this time. Hence why if you need a top up in your existing vaccines, before travelling abroad, it needs to be weeks in advance.

No conspiracys here!
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:09:15 4 14
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I'm assuming you meant vaccine rollout, but yes, this is a fair question. It would be interesting to see the numbers of deaths within 28 days of a vaccine being administered, but I doubt that's a counter they'd want on every news bulletin.
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:09:32 9 3
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The Deaths are related to infections occurring 2-4 weeks previously, vaccination will reduce deaths with a corresponding lag. Deaths are indeed coming down. They will only continue to do so if everybody continues to “do their bit”.
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05/02/2021 12:04:57 146 15
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It’s no good just giving them a slapped wrist and a fine. A spot of prison would stop them terrorising exhausted hospital staff.
Anyway according to them it’s all a hoax so they won’t have to worry about catching covid in prison!
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05/02/2021 12:09:36 24 4
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Correct should be classed as domestic terrorism.
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05/02/2021 12:05:49 33 6
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Just in case you are asking. No, not related.
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05/02/2021 12:09:54 4 16
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And your evidence is what? Look at Gibralta - 6 deaths in total up until 10th Jan 2021, then within 2 weeks it was up to 70! That's a fact that can be verified.
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05/02/2021 12:13:01 4 1
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That's probably the xmas effect.
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05/02/2021 12:13:59 1 2
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Wow. In relation to how many doses administered?

70/10,500,000!
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05/02/2021 12:15:33 12 4
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It is mind blowing that people like you exist. No understanding of stats, yet you preach your untruths as if they are facts.
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05/02/2021 12:16:12 5 2
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You need to step away from the keyboard. They are currently at 1 death, so by your calculations the deaths should have continued to go up as they did more vaccinations. The reason there was a spike was exactly why there was in the UK, it was an upward trend from infections, as lockdown and vaccinations go on the numbers go down.
05/02/2021 14:46:07 0 0
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What is your evidence that the increase was caused by vaccines?!!
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05/02/2021 12:08:43 39 31
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Are the BBC going to apologise for all the scare mongering over the last few weeks regarding the Vaccine not working and the MUTANT Variations? When it has now been proved that the vaccines work against ALL variants
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05/02/2021 12:10:08 21 12
bbc
This is a story about safety not effectiveness.
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05/02/2021 12:12:46 3 2
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Well that will also be proven as infection and death rates fall ... so lighten up
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05/02/2021 12:10:11 87 7
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Had my jab. Didn't feel a thing. Next morning, fit as a fiddle. However, about midday, I felt weak. It got worse with time, By evening I had to have a lie-down. I had a temperature of 38.8, yet I was shivering. Next morning, felt no better, but my temp. was down to 36.7. Day three, felt dizzy and weak. Day four, a lot better. Day five, back to normal. I survived.
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05/02/2021 12:14:12 39 43
bbc
Bit like a mild dose of Covid then?
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05/02/2021 12:15:46 15 7
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Argh, they tell you you can suffer the symptoms, it's your body's response to the vaccine, shorter and far less severe than the real symptoms.
Don't share your story though, idiots out there will now say 'see, it makes you ill'!
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05/02/2021 12:40:24 7 0
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I had similar experience though on the day after the jab I woke up with the mother of all headaches though thankfully it was held in check by Paracetamol and was gone by evening.
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RG
05/02/2021 12:55:27 7 17
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So no different to Covid then!
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05/02/2021 14:00:33 11 0
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My dad is 84 and had been suffering headaches for months. He had his first jab and the next day they disappeared! My guess is his stress levels have dropped as he has been really anxious about getting Covid.
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05/02/2021 14:03:20 1 0
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Which jab did you have?
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05/02/2021 14:42:34 4 0
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Well done Mick this isn't an example why you should not share, far from it. This is an example why you should have the vaccine.

For that that is your reaction to an inactive virus, just think how bad it could have been if you caught the real one ?

Quite sobering if you think it through.
05/02/2021 15:49:20 0 2
bbc
A week with no pubs open does that to a lot of people, apparently!
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05/02/2021 12:10:15 6 18
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Hostamosta 12:00

"Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines"

And the reason to believe our own and not them is...?
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05/02/2021 12:12:06 9 0
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Politics?
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05/02/2021 12:16:14 2 0
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Because on one side we have the scientific community and on the other side you have President Macron
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05/02/2021 12:13:02 2 0
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We've got them and they haven't !
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05/02/2021 12:18:25 1 1
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Because they're our own scientists perhaps ??....the one thing we do excel at in global recognition is HE after all....
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05/02/2021 12:19:25 3 0
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Because the EU a bunch of bullying vindictive mobsters. Who claim its "not suitable for under 65s" in that case why so desperate to have it?
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05/02/2021 12:17:11 1 0
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So you believe Macron claiming vaccine is "quasi-inffective" in over 65s, do you?
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:11:01 9 3
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What?
We're not well ahead in deaths, and when comparing like for like nowhere near the worst at all.
I presume you mean vaccine roll out? The vaccine takes around 3 weeks to develop significant immunity, as it's an active vaccine it will do nothing if you already have the disease, we'd need a passive vaccine for that. Dec/Jan deaths are those who had the disease before they could have a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:08:43 39 31
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Are the BBC going to apologise for all the scare mongering over the last few weeks regarding the Vaccine not working and the MUTANT Variations? When it has now been proved that the vaccines work against ALL variants
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05/02/2021 12:11:16 5 12
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They won't cos they get paid by the EU commission.
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05/02/2021 11:55:53 501 26
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I felt rough the next day but fine after that. A small price to pay. Well done Oxford scientists
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05/02/2021 12:11:22 57 5
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But that was the 2 bottles of red wine you had to celebrate !
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:11:34 14 4
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Get your tinfoil hat on, grab a macci ds and step away from the Internet.

Don't forget 5G is really mind control, so if you have that, switch it off just to be on the safe side.
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05/02/2021 12:17:26 1 12
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I stated the facts as they stand - whatever the reason, they correlate perfectly as can be observed on Worldometer, OSN or any other statistical site. It's an uncomfortable truth whether you like it or not.
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05/02/2021 12:11:41 24 3
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I was delighted to receive mine two weeks go. On the third day the top of my arm felt heavy, just as if I'd carried a heavy bag of shopping but after that, nothing. Can't wait for my second vaccine!
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05/02/2021 12:44:15 15 5
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Ah, but it's after the second dose that your arm drops off!
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05/02/2021 12:10:15 6 18
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Hostamosta 12:00

"Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines"

And the reason to believe our own and not them is...?
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05/02/2021 12:12:06 9 0
bbc
Politics?
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05/02/2021 12:07:01 16 10
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The first came from BionTech with Pfizer.
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05/02/2021 12:12:19 8 4
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Correct but the EU couldn't even get their order in for a GERMAN company.
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05/02/2021 12:12:37 366 36
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For those who believe vaccines are a great conspiracy, don’t bother having:

1. A polio vaccine.
2. A cholera vaccine.
3. A typhoid vaccine.

Travel to high risk areas. No need to worry; all these diseases are a conspiracy theory only!
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05/02/2021 12:32:45 116 25
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I hope some anti vaccination people read your comments
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ARH
05/02/2021 12:40:13 39 9
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And then pay for treatment on the NHS when you get back. With choice comes responsibility
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05/02/2021 13:01:21 30 36
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Those vaccines have a long term safety record, the covid ones do not (yet), they have been pushed through the regulatory process at an alarming speed, that is why some are worried

Im vaxed up with the above, but am worried about the covid vax for me and expecially my kids, yet I have encouraged my parents to have the covid vax, its all about risk vs reward
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05/02/2021 13:50:13 11 42
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Yes. And how long did it take to get them to the “market”. Years. Not months. I will wait to see how this ticking time bomb goes before sticking this or any cocktail of it in me.
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05/02/2021 14:11:31 6 8
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To add some balance, it is the *possible* long term side effects of a completely new type of vaccine (mRNA) that is of most concern to many people. We simply won't know what they are (if any) for a few years to come.
This is of less concern, understandably, to the eldery who are in the high risk group for Covid. However, for the majority of people under 60 yrs old, Risk is a factor to consider.
05/02/2021 14:15:46 7 3
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I think everyone suffers from confirmation bias. When people look at Amazon product reviews some look at 5 star reviews and some start with 1 star ones. Nothing wrong with people who are skeptical to wait and see the experiences of the early adopters and maybe the reviews will be consistently 5star and they will take a leap. Shaming them doesn’t help.
05/02/2021 14:16:59 5 0
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Also MMR, Chickenpox, diphtheria, tetanus, BCG and many of us as kids had smallpox jabs too.
05/02/2021 14:31:37 6 2
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Possibly the best response to anti vaccination types I have seen. You could add yellow fever in there.
05/02/2021 15:06:59 6 1
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I sometimes have an allergic reaction to conspiricy theories.
05/02/2021 15:07:33 0 0
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Incidentally, "Conspiricy Theory" was rubbish!

(Aha! That what they want us to think.)
05/02/2021 15:30:56 1 1
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The vaccines you mention were created over several years not a few months.
05/02/2021 15:51:03 1 0
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You have no idea if its a conspiracy.
You just go along with the stupid crowds.
And the numbers make you feel safe.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
05/02/2021 15:51:12 1 1
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Just leave them to die if they don't want the vaccine. Job done.
05/02/2021 16:33:42 2 0
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I am old enough to remember news reports of polio outbreaks, people in iron lungs and had a school chum who had withered a arm due to polio.
Being vaccinated was part of the corriculum Stories of giant needles pervaded the school gossip in the run up to the "nit nurse" coming to school and us lining up and being "jagged".
Thank you Edward Jenner and all who came after you.
05/02/2021 16:48:00 1 0
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We have cholera/ typhoid etc vaccines for extreme situations in lands afar where medical assistance may be distant. We don't have vaccines for seasonal flu.
05/02/2021 17:04:00 0 0
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And definitely don't get Yellow Fever and Hepatitis - Just conspiracy theories
05/02/2021 17:03:34 1 2
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Had all of those mentioned, and many more, voluntarily.

But I'll be buggered if I'm going to have get vaccinated against something I'm already immune to.

Isn't that perverse?
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MH
05/02/2021 12:04:13 94 12
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Now tell everyone who has had the vaccination that they are not invulnerable. There are some who believe the rules don't apply to them anymore.
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05/02/2021 12:12:40 50 28
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No one's invulnerable to almost everything, are you going to lockdown forever?
Watch out for getting old, not sure staying in will prevent it happening!
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05/02/2021 13:43:13 2 8
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The statistics prove that lockdowns do not work. You are creating a straw man argument. Many people do not want either experimental vaccines or lockdowns.
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05/02/2021 12:05:16 37 7
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Thalidomide was not a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:12:44 2 7
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No, but the point still stands. It's a novel drug, with a completely novel mechanism of action which more than likely safe but we don't have the benefit of time to tell us what may happen longer term.
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05/02/2021 12:10:08 21 12
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This is a story about safety not effectiveness.
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05/02/2021 12:12:46 3 2
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Well that will also be proven as infection and death rates fall ... so lighten up
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05/02/2021 12:15:33 2 0
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I hope you are correct. I will look forward to reading that particular story on the BBC website.
I am quite enlightened thanks.
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05/02/2021 12:12:57 43 29
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Meanwhile back in the EU...

Still jumping up & down, foaming at the mouth and screaming that "The Tory Brexiteers and Bozo the clown refuse to join the EU joint procurement programme", Remoaners?

I'm also suprised that Sir Keir Weathervane with his gift of hindsight forgot that he 'demanded' that the UK join it FOUR TIMES
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05/02/2021 12:15:36 10 9
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you are Al Johnson and I claim my £5
Only in your small mind did that every happen Removed
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05/02/2021 12:17:49 4 4
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CORRECT. Sounded knee bender sounded very aggressive when that was put to him.
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05/02/2021 12:27:45 5 3
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Why is this article about the EU?
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05/02/2021 12:09:54 4 16
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And your evidence is what? Look at Gibralta - 6 deaths in total up until 10th Jan 2021, then within 2 weeks it was up to 70! That's a fact that can be verified.
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05/02/2021 12:13:01 4 1
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That's probably the xmas effect.
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05/02/2021 12:13:19 11 3
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Excellent news! I hope that all those who want one are able to get one if it makes them feel safer and protected and that even get back to normal as soon as possible without every day fear mongering from MSM.
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05/02/2021 12:02:32 32 2
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Think the second paragraph explains this relates mostly to the Pfizer vaccine.
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Ray
05/02/2021 12:13:21 8 3
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Hats off to the 'red white and blue' civil servants for getting this pfizer vaccine booked early enough to ensure supplies for the country meet our needs.
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 11 25
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Too early to say, we have to wait to see after 2 years !
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05/02/2021 12:13:49 0 1
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Your choice, of course - but on the whole I would say take it when it's offered.
Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines, particularly that shouted by the little Napoleon wannabe in France, and what's his name in Ireland. Sour grapes, not facts, coming out of the EU now. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:13:51 25 39
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1. It's not rubbish coming from the EU
2. The EU aren't jealous
3. Neither is Macron
4. Or the bloke in Ireland
5. There are no sour grapes coming from the EU.

These are just projections coming from a paranoid mind. Seek professional help!
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CJR
05/02/2021 13:15:01 2 0
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Which news have you been watching? Think it has to be fake new channel.
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05/02/2021 13:41:11 1 0
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Well said. Fully agree.
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05/02/2021 12:03:24 92 51
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FACT even the remoaners are turning on them. WIN WIN
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05/02/2021 12:13:51 13 14
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Although they will never admit to it. ??
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05/02/2021 12:35:58 19 0
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Hey, I am a remainer and have no problem congratulating all involved in the UK roll-out, and calling out the EU for screwing up.
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05/02/2021 13:21:42 3 0
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I will.
Not a fan of Brexit, but there is no denying that the EU have not covered themselves with glory and the UK governement has, for once, done something rather well!
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05/02/2021 12:01:41 298 6
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Now 1 in 5 adults have had vaccines any serious reactions would have been noticeable. The mild reactions seem to be in line with those of the annual flu jab.
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05/02/2021 12:13:52 179 6
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You are right, the longer the vaccination campaign goes on, the more we understand about the vaccination Programme and it’s effects. This benefits everybody worldwide.
05/02/2021 15:53:45 0 4
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Its only been going on for a year, for gods sake.
Just wait a few years, when people start getting deformities, serious side efffects and death.
Then come back and make your point.
LH
05/02/2021 17:33:56 0 0
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Unfortunately, even those who choose NOT to have the vaccine!!!!
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05/02/2021 12:03:57 10 59
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And yet the huge spike in Covid deaths correlates exactly with the virus roll-out in mid December. We're miles ahead in vaccines delivered in Europe and miles ahead in deaths too. This could be a coincidence, of course, but no one is asking the obvious question as to whether they are related.
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05/02/2021 12:13:59 0 5
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Hang on so what you are saying is possibly our vaccination program roll out caused a huge spike in Covid deaths?
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05/02/2021 12:09:54 4 16
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And your evidence is what? Look at Gibralta - 6 deaths in total up until 10th Jan 2021, then within 2 weeks it was up to 70! That's a fact that can be verified.
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05/02/2021 12:13:59 1 2
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Wow. In relation to how many doses administered?

70/10,500,000!
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05/02/2021 12:10:11 87 7
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Had my jab. Didn't feel a thing. Next morning, fit as a fiddle. However, about midday, I felt weak. It got worse with time, By evening I had to have a lie-down. I had a temperature of 38.8, yet I was shivering. Next morning, felt no better, but my temp. was down to 36.7. Day three, felt dizzy and weak. Day four, a lot better. Day five, back to normal. I survived.
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05/02/2021 12:14:12 39 43
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Bit like a mild dose of Covid then?
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KH
05/02/2021 12:22:09 9 3
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Though I'm guessing as they were vaccinated in one of the priority groups then catching covid may have been more severe.

It's all very well spouting nonsense about survival rates. Those statistics are fine...for those who do survive and are not hospitalised.
05/02/2021 17:05:56 0 0
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Yes - and undoubtedly better than a *bad* case of Covid.
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05/02/2021 12:14:29 5 10
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Excellent news. Sleeves up. Mandatory vaccine and health passports now. Let’s get on with our lives
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05/02/2021 12:24:35 3 2
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Papers please Citizen!

What about those that cannot have the vaccine? You want them to be second class and denied access to services and travel through no fault of their own?
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05/02/2021 12:25:51 1 4
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Not sure why this gets so many negatives. Lockdown has to continue until we all have the vaccine. Let’s get on with it. We can do millions per week now the most vulnerable are done. We can rattle off entire towns in days. Then three weeks later lockdown over
Story in the Guardian this morning about the disgrace that the BAME community should have been given greater priority to vaccines having been high lighted as more vulnerable group....oh...and it's my fault for being an entitled white middle aged man....apparently. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:16:45 103 32
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Correct. Don't remember any complaints when blm were rioting
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05/02/2021 12:16:55 68 21
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Guardian...what did you expect ??!! Prioritising BAME is pure racism anyway surely ? Or does it only work one way ?
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05/02/2021 12:23:17 77 7
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BAME community will all receive the vaccine in order of age like the rest of us. As long as they accept it. If they refuse and believe ridiculous rumours then that is there own lookout.
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05/02/2021 12:26:56 22 13
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That isn’t what they wrote.
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05/02/2021 12:28:41 10 10
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I couldn’t have put it better myself. I don’t read the Guardian
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05/02/2021 12:18:49 38 17
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The Guardian just spreads divisive rubbish. If it hadn't sold Autotrader for a lot of money, it would have been relegated to a minor online only paper, like the Independent, which is a far better rag anyway. Do not believe anything the Guardian says about vaccines.
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05/02/2021 12:36:33 59 12
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And the ironic thing is its the BAME groups refusing the vaccines in far greater proportion. You couldn't make it up.
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05/02/2021 13:22:23 29 18
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And had "Only me" Starmer been in charge, there would have been endless dither while they tried to pander to the various victim groups that he and his party foster.
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05/02/2021 13:23:45 25 2
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If they don’t want it move on and get on with vaccinating the next group that do. We don’t have time to mess about with people who refuse it. We can do a catch up programme later.
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05/02/2021 13:32:53 12 7
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You also forgot to add your privilege (You know, that privilege of not choosing which parents you were born to).
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05/02/2021 13:33:38 12 8
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They are the very group who are refusing to have it. Particularly concerning are those working in the Health and Social Care sector. It should be mandatory for those working in health and care.
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05/02/2021 13:41:30 9 5
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Wow, any mention of The Guardian sure triggers the HYS snowflakes :-)
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05/02/2021 13:42:45 6 4
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my local newsagent doesnt sell the guardian its quite a joke amongst us, i hope this is not off subject but he has run his shop 30 years on next monday happy celebrations to mr patel and his lovely family
05/02/2021 14:51:38 4 0
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And most of the nonsensical conspiracy theories about the vaccines orginate in the south Asian and African communities. They have "cultural" objections to vaccines. Idiots.
05/02/2021 14:53:02 1 1
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That's a huge distortion of what was written
Over a third of residents have died at Pemberley House care home.

All had received the vaccine recently.

Zero died in 2020, not a single resident.

That comes from a care worker at the site.

So good luck with the vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:16:07 9 1
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There was an outbreak. It also takes 3 weeks. JOG ON
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05/02/2021 12:18:43 1 0
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Suggest you go back to your dark room and lie down
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05/02/2021 12:20:13 2 0
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That is just scaremongering. The reason could be that care workers had not been vaccinated or started meeting people too soon after being vaccinated and gave Covid19 to residents. Or it is just a lie. I suspect the latter.
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05/02/2021 12:22:05 1 0
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Saw something similar reported on GMB by someone from the National Care Association saying that old folk vaccinated early December had died with Covid mid-January. This was in multiple care homes.

But if you pose the question as to whether this is causation or correlation, you're clearly an anti-vax loon looking at the replies you get on this forum.
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05/02/2021 12:22:26 1 0
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Newsflash !!

Old people die.
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05/02/2021 12:26:30 0 0
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Without knowing anything about it, I feel safe in saying that there is a lot wrong with that misinformation. The vaccine hasn’t killed anybody. But it might not save everyone that receives it.
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05/02/2021 12:02:32 32 2
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Think the second paragraph explains this relates mostly to the Pfizer vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:14:49 12 3
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You mean the German one, backed by America’s Pfizer?
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05/02/2021 12:00:47 11 25
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Too early to say, we have to wait to see after 2 years !
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05/02/2021 12:15:07 1 1
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Jesus Christ, you're never happy... An absolute miserable so and so.
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05/02/2021 12:19:55 0 3
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lol, it has nothing to do with hAppiness and safety issues
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05/02/2021 12:15:08 6 1
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We need to double up our vaccine capacity / infrastructure

... start giving out the second jab

... whilst maintaining the momentum with those needing the first jab

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05/02/2021 12:25:32 4 0
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We had our 1st jab 30th December so hope we get the 2nd jab within the 12 week period. They are doing a great job, carry on jabbing.
05/02/2021 16:03:41 0 0
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2nd doses being administered

(click on 2nd dose cumulative column)

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations
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KH
05/02/2021 12:15:08 85 5
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Ahh, a nice statistically proven, evidence based conclusion.

I'm sure it won't be enough for some but it certainly is for me.
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05/02/2021 12:16:50 8 32
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My opinion is different to the scientific, statistic and proven evidence though?
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05/02/2021 12:04:57 146 15
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It’s no good just giving them a slapped wrist and a fine. A spot of prison would stop them terrorising exhausted hospital staff.
Anyway according to them it’s all a hoax so they won’t have to worry about catching covid in prison!
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05/02/2021 12:15:12 25 2
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Residents of the Isle of Man were sent to prison, apparently, for four weeks even for breaking lockdown rules e.g. attempting to travel out and then back onto the island when the borders were closed. The Isle is now out of lockdown completely (but their borders are still closed to outsiders).
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05/02/2021 12:24:37 17 5
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Difference with Isle of man is population and not having 200 scally students having illegal raves.
Oh dear this won't please the loonies like Corbyn's brother. Or the disgusting mob who wait outside hospitals to abuse staff. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:15:30 18 6
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Or Macron
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05/02/2021 12:09:54 4 16
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And your evidence is what? Look at Gibralta - 6 deaths in total up until 10th Jan 2021, then within 2 weeks it was up to 70! That's a fact that can be verified.
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05/02/2021 12:15:33 12 4
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It is mind blowing that people like you exist. No understanding of stats, yet you preach your untruths as if they are facts.
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05/02/2021 12:12:46 3 2
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Well that will also be proven as infection and death rates fall ... so lighten up
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05/02/2021 12:15:33 2 0
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I hope you are correct. I will look forward to reading that particular story on the BBC website.
I am quite enlightened thanks.
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05/02/2021 12:12:57 43 29
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Meanwhile back in the EU...

Still jumping up & down, foaming at the mouth and screaming that "The Tory Brexiteers and Bozo the clown refuse to join the EU joint procurement programme", Remoaners?

I'm also suprised that Sir Keir Weathervane with his gift of hindsight forgot that he 'demanded' that the UK join it FOUR TIMES
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05/02/2021 12:15:36 10 9
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you are Al Johnson and I claim my £5
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05/02/2021 12:30:26 3 2
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I don’t get it
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05/02/2021 12:06:16 11 40
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And your point is?
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05/02/2021 12:15:42 14 1
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He's reporting side effects. It seems that some people want to put their head in the sand and believe there are none. What's your point?
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05/02/2021 12:05:16 37 7
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Thalidomide was not a vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:08:43 2 7
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Remainers don't do science.
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05/02/2021 12:09:27 16 9
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It’s no good all these expert, very knowledgable scientist doing hours of statistical data research. We just need to ask Macron, who in an effort to cover up his and the EU’s incompetence, will tell us that it’s rubbish.

And people wonder why we left.
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05/02/2021 12:24:42 5 0
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Let’s be clear. The Astra/Zeneca vaccine is fine, less efficacious than Pfizer/Moderna but more so than the flu jab. It is just not yet proven that it’s effectiveness is enough for over 65’s. But it probably will be soon.
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05/02/2021 12:04:56 18 6
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Wife had severe asthma attacks for a week after having the jab (she hasn't had asthma since she was 5) but all settled down now thankfully.
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05/02/2021 12:10:14 11 0
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Good to hear she is well.
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05/02/2021 12:27:24 4 0
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How very kind :)
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05/02/2021 12:10:11 87 7
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Had my jab. Didn't feel a thing. Next morning, fit as a fiddle. However, about midday, I felt weak. It got worse with time, By evening I had to have a lie-down. I had a temperature of 38.8, yet I was shivering. Next morning, felt no better, but my temp. was down to 36.7. Day three, felt dizzy and weak. Day four, a lot better. Day five, back to normal. I survived.
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05/02/2021 12:15:46 15 7
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Argh, they tell you you can suffer the symptoms, it's your body's response to the vaccine, shorter and far less severe than the real symptoms.
Don't share your story though, idiots out there will now say 'see, it makes you ill'!
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05/02/2021 12:12:57 43 29
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Meanwhile back in the EU...

Still jumping up & down, foaming at the mouth and screaming that "The Tory Brexiteers and Bozo the clown refuse to join the EU joint procurement programme", Remoaners?

I'm also suprised that Sir Keir Weathervane with his gift of hindsight forgot that he 'demanded' that the UK join it FOUR TIMES
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Only in your small mind did that every happen Removed
Over a third of residents have died at Pemberley House care home.

All had received the vaccine recently.

Zero died in 2020, not a single resident.

That comes from a care worker at the site.

So good luck with the vaccine.
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05/02/2021 12:16:07 9 1
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There was an outbreak. It also takes 3 weeks. JOG ON
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05/02/2021 12:23:01 0 0
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Report anti vaxxers. The BBC should block their IP addresses. They are dangerous people.
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05/02/2021 12:16:10 13 9
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The govt has done an amazing job. the vaccine is produced in UK, the logistic is in place and UK has the best vaccination ratio in europe. well done to the NHS and the government. keep vaccinating people and we will get out of this fast.
EU is in shamble with Ms Ursula a joke... a true joke..
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05/02/2021 12:20:01 10 3
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Ursula is a very arrogant person.
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05/02/2021 12:22:02 5 2
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The EU has everything in place, the only thing that’s missing is the vaccine. They made the mistake of negotiating about price and conditions, feeling they had a responsibility to the nation states not to throw money about too freely. In a year’s time, we will know how it all panned out.
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05/02/2021 12:10:15 6 18
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Hostamosta 12:00

"Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines"

And the reason to believe our own and not them is...?
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05/02/2021 12:16:14 2 0
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Because on one side we have the scientific community and on the other side you have President Macron
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05/02/2021 12:03:24 92 51
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FACT even the remoaners are turning on them. WIN WIN
FACT? Why are gammon thick as mince? Removed
Not sure maybe "I didn't know what I was voting for" ???? Removed
Ignore the rubbish coming from the jealous EU about vaccines, particularly that shouted by the little Napoleon wannabe in France, and what's his name in Ireland. Sour grapes, not facts, coming out of the EU now. Removed
The ambivalence on the subject must be unbearable for the anti-vaxxer lot who are ALL rabidly anti-EU!
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05/02/2021 13:20:09 1 1
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Funny that, as the only two I know who are irrationally anti vaccination are also irrationally & unthinkingly pro EU...
Story in the Guardian this morning about the disgrace that the BAME community should have been given greater priority to vaccines having been high lighted as more vulnerable group....oh...and it's my fault for being an entitled white middle aged man....apparently. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:16:45 103 32
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Correct. Don't remember any complaints when blm were rioting
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KH
05/02/2021 12:15:08 85 5
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Ahh, a nice statistically proven, evidence based conclusion.

I'm sure it won't be enough for some but it certainly is for me.
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05/02/2021 12:16:50 8 32
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My opinion is different to the scientific, statistic and proven evidence though?
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KH
05/02/2021 12:47:47 14 0
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That's what makes it an opinion rather than a valid conclusion.
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05/02/2021 13:26:38 1 0
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Which is based in what exactly? Some tin foil hat theory spouted on Facebook.
Story in the Guardian this morning about the disgrace that the BAME community should have been given greater priority to vaccines having been high lighted as more vulnerable group....oh...and it's my fault for being an entitled white middle aged man....apparently. Removed
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05/02/2021 12:16:55 68 21
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Guardian...what did you expect ??!! Prioritising BAME is pure racism anyway surely ? Or does it only work one way ?
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ray
05/02/2021 12:17:01 15 7
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Im confident the vaccines are “extremely safe” but just to help people there is no evidence that they are “extremely safe” long term. Not that i expect there to be, only time will tell.

I had my first one the other day. No real issues. Painless and efficient.

Obviously it looks like people should get the vaccine but to say they are “extremely safe” is just an educated guess.
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05/02/2021 13:37:11 3 6
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What are you expecting them to do long term? No vaccine has ever caused severe long term problems.