Brits snap up Australian wine that didn't go to China
04/02/2021 | news | business | 1,521
The UK is now the top destination for Australian wine as it looks to overcome crippling Chinese taxes.
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Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
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Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
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04/02/2021 10:56:14 135 330
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I would suggest you are buying the wrong stuff.
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04/02/2021 10:58:00 24 24
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Cheap Aussie wine is better than cheap French wine but all new world wines pales in comparison to top end French and Italian wines.
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04/02/2021 10:58:14 8 21
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Oh dear. Says a wine expert, no doubt.
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04/02/2021 11:01:03 19 0
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Or vin-vin.
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04/02/2021 11:03:40 21 30
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Haha the obligatory Brexiteer comment "it's better than (product) from (EU country) anyway"

We all know it's the flavour of your politics leading your taste buds ??
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04/02/2021 11:10:13 7 19
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Not to mention the over-rated British stuff.
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04/02/2021 11:26:13 23 1
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I have to agree. I have decades' worth of wine tasting notes (I really should get out more) and cheap Aussie is better than cheap French/Spanish - however the cheap Italian stuff is quite good. At the top end the French still have it but prices are sky high. Also, South America has scored highest for basic wines recently.
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04/02/2021 11:43:15 3 7
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pointless comment by a Brexiteer suggest you'd study a label before deciding whether it would taste nice
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04/02/2021 11:49:05 3 1
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Is this comment taken from the teetotal Trump’s playbook?
“US wines are much better than French wines, well they have prettier labels anyway.”
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CSM
04/02/2021 11:55:21 0 0
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It's actually 'vin-vin'.
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04/02/2021 11:59:32 0 0
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French whites are good. Their reds are poor value.
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04/02/2021 12:21:30 0 0
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Yiu need to lay a bit more. Australian wine isn’t in the same league as a good French wine.
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04/02/2021 12:35:09 0 1
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I reckon you're the sort that drinks just to get sloshed so taste and the finer aspect of the wine means nothing more except a poke in the eye for the EU.

Anyway, I thought under age drinking was still illegal in the UK!
04/02/2021 13:11:12 0 0
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Yes - anything to annoy Macron.
04/02/2021 17:14:03 1 0
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It depends which wines you are buying.

Cheap plonk will be broadly similar wherever it is from.

In the £10-20 region you may get some fairly decent Aussie wines while the French equivalents may not be quite as good.

For top end wines there are very few new world wines that even come close to the top (or middle-top) wines from Bordeaux, Burgundy, upper Rhone or Champagne.
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04/02/2021 10:47:24 9 8
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Why do we need an HYS on this ????
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04/02/2021 10:49:53 21 1
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better than yet another one on brexit
Because it makes a nice change from the usual HYS which seems to reserved for leftie weirdos and far right freaks! Removed
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04/02/2021 10:55:04 2 0
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Is that a wine whine?
Or are you anti-Australian? Understandable, they cheat at cricket and steal our best talent after we have trained them and they are just starting to pay tax. I've got nothing against them apart from that.
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04/02/2021 11:02:08 1 0
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Because it’s about wine ?
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04/02/2021 10:47:56 648 33
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Good to support our Australian cousins.
And now we have wine nationalism. Thanks again Britnat Brexiteers. Totally pathetic... Removed
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04/02/2021 11:10:59 86 2
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Australian wine tends to travel well and they are extremely competitively priced even with shipping costs.
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DJG
04/02/2021 11:11:45 84 6
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Don't forget South Africa too - lots of places have excellent wines at more reasonable prices than EU producers. Crisp white with UK fish and shellfish. Yum.
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04/02/2021 11:16:49 11 47
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They are not our "cousins" nor our they our "colonial dependents". Simple exploit of global trade condition is all
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04/02/2021 11:40:40 3 21
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Support our Australian cousins?! The Ozzies think the English are a bigger joke than all of Europe do! ??
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04/02/2021 10:47:24 9 8
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Why do we need an HYS on this ????
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04/02/2021 10:49:53 21 1
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better than yet another one on brexit
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04/02/2021 10:50:32 278 34
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Aussie wine is just as good if not better than most EU wines, so this is no bad thing!
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04/02/2021 10:59:51 29 322
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It's rubbish and you know it.
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04/02/2021 11:28:31 2 16
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You might change your mind if you saw how it is produced!
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04/02/2021 11:42:27 1 10
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When in NZ (gorgeous Sauv Blancs) I was amused to note that all the cheap wines were from Australia. It's mostly plonk.
04/02/2021 13:02:41 0 0
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There's a lot of biased talk in both directions here. The truth is that there are brilliant wines from both Australia and the EU, not to mention S Africa, NZ, Chile and so on. There are also a lot of poor wines from all those places.

Don't expect an earth-shattering wine for a miniscule price. Equally, don't spend more than circa £15 a bottle unless you are a wine buff.
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EW
04/02/2021 10:50:44 46 1
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And it’s a real bonus. Love Australian wine ! Excellent news.
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04/02/2021 10:51:34 4 1
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I am hoping for a good Sydney Syrup or one of those famous peppermint flavoured Burgundies. And the prizewinning Chateau Blue Too or the rare 1970 Coq du Rod Laver...
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04/02/2021 10:52:06 26 2
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Just goes to show that the world does not need to depend on China and when forced to do so, entering other markets or increasing sales in existing markets, is equally if not more lucrative.
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04/02/2021 10:52:19 2 5
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I very much doubt that the two things are linked but I suppose it makes for a good story.
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04/02/2021 11:00:13 5 2
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What two things? The push by Aussie producers to find other markets is due to the vindictive Chinese punishment for daring to ask for an investigation into the source of Coivd
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04/02/2021 10:52:19 150 17
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Good to support and trade with our Australian family.

English wine is also booming and will become more popular due to global warming.
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04/02/2021 11:08:57 31 16
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Ahem...'Climate change.....' Please!
04/02/2021 13:51:55 2 1
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Related to the Aboriginal people then are you?
04/02/2021 15:05:37 2 1
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"Your Austalian family"? Do you come from a long line of transported convicts?
05/02/2021 00:29:03 0 0
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Thank you from an Aussie.
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04/02/2021 10:52:20 150 8
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Brilliant! Hong Konger here. For years our economy became very dependent on the Chinese. Over time we have lost our bargin chip and are forced to make politcal concessions. Definitely don't want to see the same happen in other democracies for the same reasons.
04/02/2021 15:04:00 1 3
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Confucius he say "You lost more than your bargaining (sic) chip".
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04/02/2021 10:52:21 165 17
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Some of the world's best white wines are produced in Kent and Sussex which might explain why Tattinger are buying land there. For reds I choose Australian every time.
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04/02/2021 10:57:19 97 6
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We have a vineyard in our village (in Kent) should we tire of the Aussie stuff.
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04/02/2021 11:25:46 3 14
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That is utter rubbish. Jingoistic much? Not a single British wine is rated on a level with top wines from around the world. British wines range from utter disasters to okay. There are no world-beating British wines.
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04/02/2021 11:30:05 3 1
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The irony of climate change.
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04/02/2021 11:44:56 3 2
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Fine, but the prices!!!
04/02/2021 13:20:43 0 0
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Tattinger are probably buying land in Kent so they have somewhere to park their lorries waiting to get home.
04/02/2021 13:38:13 0 0
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Don’t forget Denbies in Surrey - the largest vineyard in the UK - Excellent quality whites - I even understand they have done a deal with Wetherspoons & will become the house wine. Support English wine ...& New World wines too ! ??
04/02/2021 14:52:47 0 0
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How much a bottle are they, delivered to France?
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04/02/2021 10:47:24 9 8
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Why do we need an HYS on this ????
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Because it makes a nice change from the usual HYS which seems to reserved for leftie weirdos and far right freaks! Removed
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04/02/2021 10:49:01 9 2
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I didn't even know the Chinese actually drink wine!
They drink it in meals with bats. Removed
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04/02/2021 10:57:45 3 0
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You would need to live there to understand. It’s akin to Russia and vodka consumption.
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04/02/2021 11:00:11 1 6
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They've moved on from opium forced on them by the East India Company.
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04/02/2021 10:51:12 255 37
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If the EU want to "punish" us for leaving them through endless paperwork, we'll go elsewhere. Simple as.
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04/02/2021 10:58:31 75 115
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Except currently there is no paperwork for French/EU imports. When it comes in July it will be splendid, world beating British paperwork.
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04/02/2021 11:29:58 25 11
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It's not 'punishment' it's the exact same paperwork everyone who isnt in the EU has to fill in.
It's what happens when you decide wanting a few less foreigners at the car wash is worth exiting one of the largest markets in the world.
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04/02/2021 11:44:37 21 10
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The endless paperwork is because of Brexit, we are no longer in the EU and single market. One of the many lies of Brexit was about EU red tape. We didn’t have any before, now it’s never ending
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04/02/2021 11:53:09 18 7
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They're not "punishing" us, the paperwork is *precisely* what you voted for!

You won, get over it!
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04/02/2021 12:16:50 4 7
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blamr boris for the paperwork
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04/02/2021 12:44:26 9 2
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Paperwork is required to manage borders. It was not imposed as a punishment. It's the standard state of affairs when you don't share a single market and have no customs union. Brexiters voted to reimpose the paperwork. Brexiters voted to abandon the paperless flow of goods over the border. The very essence of Brexit is for there to be more paperwork, delays and controls.
04/02/2021 12:57:51 5 2
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The EU is punishing us! What utter nonsense. We left the single market (which WE played a major part in creating and defining the rules) to become a third country (according to rules WE made). You're not in the club, you don't get the preferential treatment. You won, get over it and stop talking rubbish.
04/02/2021 15:12:31 3 0
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You seem to forget that it goes both ways, we also have a lot of complicated paperwork for goods coming into the UK...but that is okay for you I guess?
04/02/2021 20:52:15 1 0
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Just bought Japanese hybrid, have bought Fiat for years. Will not be buying Shell oil or petrol, we should all boycott Shell.
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04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
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Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
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04/02/2021 10:56:01 21 0
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And they say Breixteers are bigots!!!
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04/02/2021 10:56:46 2 0
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Says the Bells whisky drinker.
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04/02/2021 10:57:11 8 0
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typical remoaner,cant tell a good wine from perrier sparkling water(cats p*** sorry)
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04/02/2021 10:56:02 6 1
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Nonsense and you know it.
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04/02/2021 10:56:39 2 0
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Is that one of those remoaner "facts"?
I feel I'm being lied to right now.
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04/02/2021 11:01:36 5 0
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You obviously haven't drunk some of the stuff that the French have to water down to make palatable then.
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04/02/2021 10:59:11 6 0
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Totally predictable and utterly hilarious comment. Cheers!
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04/02/2021 11:02:58 6 1
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How wrong are you my friend. Australian wine is fine. You are just a remainer moaning. An Aussie would say a whinging Pom??
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04/02/2021 11:14:07 1 0
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Truth gets to you Britnat Brexiteers more and more dail doesn't it? What on earth have you done to your own once dignified outward looking country? Ah well...
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04/02/2021 11:18:25 0 0
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Love Ozzy and other new world wines, why pay a premium for outdated and increasingly unpopular EU wines. French is the most overrated of all, living on past glories I’m afraid.
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04/02/2021 10:53:30 463 85
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Well we're boycotting EU products anyway due to their petty minded bureaucracy, win for Martijn the sandwich thief in Holland.
So we are buying wine from Aus, NZ, Chile and South Africa and it is excellent.
Also going to be buying a Kia or Hyundai this year, not the Peugeot we planned. Win for Macrons anti UK policy and rhetoric.
We will buy from true friends. The EU can stuff it.
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04/02/2021 10:59:10 71 365
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Except for covid vaccines obviously!

Kia, Hyundai or Peugeot? Your class shines through!
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04/02/2021 11:08:40 41 7
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Well, have recently bought a Kia[love it!]. Been a fan of NZ Sauvignon for years, find Stellenbosch VERY drinkable. As an example of how the world's turned...last year I bought a bottle of Kiwi Cuvee. UNDRINKABLE. Inspecting the label more closely it turned out to be French plonk! So now they are pretending to be a NZ wine.Hoist with their own petard. lol.
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04/02/2021 11:22:41 5 10
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Brexit in'it!
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04/02/2021 11:29:42 23 3
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Yes, we are doing similar.BTW, don't forget Argentinian Malbecs. Absolutely gorgeous! And, we plan on buying a Kia as soon as lockdown is over.
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04/02/2021 11:38:05 16 3
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You haven't mentioned Argentina and the removal of sandwiches is petty, more importantly the reporting of such acts enrages us so we will boycott. I like the Dutch very industrious people. I have gone off them!
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04/02/2021 11:40:27 10 6
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That Kia was probably built in Slovakia; HQ in Frankfurt!. Peugeot, however, do invest in the UK (Vauxhall). Automotive nationalism is trickier than you think. Better stick with that old Austin Allegro I suggest!
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04/02/2021 12:03:58 7 2
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Hi Neil, people who live across the channel from us are neighbours and friends just as much as ever. Please do not let yourself be emotionally manipulated by headlines intended to rile and sell newspapers.
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04/02/2021 12:03:16 5 0
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My 'peugeot' is made in the Czech Republic, has a Japanese engine and is designed by an Italian!
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04/02/2021 12:22:11 4 0
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As a mechanic I would avoid French cars regardless of the present Tiff. They are unreliable due to expensive electrical problems. Honda for me! Same car for 10 years now and apart from routine servicing and tyres, brake pads etc... it hasn't had to have a repair done to it.
As for French tools, I will no longer be buying Facom.
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04/02/2021 12:19:12 2 1
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I've been boycotting French stuff since before the Brexit referendum, and reducing purchases from other parts of the EU.
My next car will be Japanese, Lexus maybe rather than Audi.
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04/02/2021 12:40:29 0 0
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I am sure you spending your fiver is going to make all the difference. Regarding buying a Korean car I would say buy British. In fact I would say the same thing about wine, mobile phones etc. Just buy the best of British. ??
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04/02/2021 12:42:34 0 1
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Can recommend the Kia. Have had a Niro hybrid for 18 months and can't fault it in any way.
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04/02/2021 12:44:13 1 0
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Have you tried wines from Romania, Hungary, Portugal perhaps? I bet you didn't, they have great wines, but like you and many others here that call European wines only French and Spanish shows how much you understand about wines and other products, none.

Snobbism... and please don't come to the EU any time soon for holidays! :)
04/02/2021 12:59:19 0 1
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Why not buy a Vauxhall that is backing a British brand or a Nissan/Toyota instead that at least still make some of their cars here?
04/02/2021 13:43:03 1 0
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Buy a UK made Nissan.
04/02/2021 14:23:55 1 0
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Good luck with buying a non EU produced Kia or Hyundai. Enjoy your potatoes and swedes, but no Irish beef. Plenty of lamb and shellfish too.
04/02/2021 15:11:08 0 0
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Stay away from the Argies too
04/02/2021 15:21:44 0 0
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Yes, Kia or Ceed... both manufactured in Europe in Slovenia and Czech respectively. Well done you!
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04/02/2021 10:53:37 724 83
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Well if the French won’t let our shellfish in, we should drop drinking French wine. Some Australian and Californian wines are great.
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04/02/2021 10:55:51 126 760
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No they're not and we all know it. More Britnat Brexiteer denial. Pathetic indeed.
You should surely only be drinking British wine, though I hear it's mostly white and rather bitter. Removed
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DJG
04/02/2021 11:12:34 78 4
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A nice south african white with some Scottish (or rUK) crab or lobster. Fantastic offering.
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04/02/2021 11:14:34 72 8
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I much prefer new world wines myself. French wine in particular I’ve never really got on with and believe me I’ve tried. Not any more. As the EU wine lake grows they will become more and more protectionist, a very bad road to go down.
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04/02/2021 11:25:59 35 3
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I gave up drinking French wine months ago. The rest of the world is full of lovely wine. Gutsy reds from Chile and Argentina, whites from South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and us, and sparkling whites from right here in the UK. Cheers!
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04/02/2021 11:26:59 7 2
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But I don't like them. This is not a schoolyard game
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04/02/2021 11:27:27 14 3
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Agree we should buy more Argentine wine big time it is exquisite, they are broke and so weak currency so cheap import and is a way to foster good relations so no more war stuff over the Falklands.
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04/02/2021 11:36:15 7 0
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Agreed. Chilean wine is also very nice.
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04/02/2021 11:44:23 7 4
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Leave those with more money than sense to purchase those poncy overpriced over-rated bottles of grape juice such as Chateau Le-Ripoff etc..
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04/02/2021 11:44:47 2 3
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Aussie & Californian reds aren't a patch on South African reds.
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04/02/2021 11:54:35 0 0
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They're also miles away.
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04/02/2021 12:20:55 0 0
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I don’t like either.
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04/02/2021 12:23:56 3 1
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It's the British who've just reverted to pre-EU rules, not the other way around.
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04/02/2021 12:28:23 3 1
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We should do the same with their rubbish cars.
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04/02/2021 10:53:59 223 7
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China raise taxes by 212% and the Australians change their sales tactics and increase profitability into the bargain. Consistently bad practice from the Chinese, who knew ?
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04/02/2021 11:30:37 130 4
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China being forced into a corner by their own tactics .
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04/02/2021 11:37:17 21 0
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The Chinese used to take hundreds of tonnes of our Shellfish until we got vocal about Hong Kong and now the market has disappeared and they buy from the USA. Trade is the biggest weapon in the Chinese armoury and all countries need to be as fleet of foot as the Australians when their turn comes for the strong arm tactics.
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04/02/2021 12:32:51 5 0
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And for the benefit of everyone else on here, I strongly doubt China's tax/duty policy is being driven by Brexit. So stop mentioning it.
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04/02/2021 10:54:18 159 5
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Having lived in Australia a number of years I would say they produce world class wines. From huge farm vineyards down to small one field enterprises, they have them all. Try Penfold Grange if you have really deep pockets.
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04/02/2021 12:03:16 9 87
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Surely they do, but they'll keep the best for home consumption and tanker the rubbish in 20,000 litre plastic bladders for us mugs in UK to quaff - quaffing is about all the stuff is good for, it's not even good enough for cooking.
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04/02/2021 10:54:40 312 14
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I stand ready, not only to drink my share of Aussie wine, but to eat plenty of shellfish which can't be exported.
I love scallops and hubby is mad for mussels. We'd be more then happy to buy them especially if we can get them for the price we'd normally pay in a French poissionnerie!
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04/02/2021 11:08:25 73 1
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Or even market stand.
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04/02/2021 11:23:38 21 1
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Totally agree. Lets eat more of our own sea produce and drink good quality Australian wine. In fact, lets be shellfish about it and keep it all... Sowwy!!!!!!!
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04/02/2021 12:33:15 7 0
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Very happy to buy scallops too. Hopefully some young energetic people can set up washing facilities in the UK and then market the stuff here, complete with next day delivery service.
04/02/2021 13:04:59 5 0
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hear hear
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04/02/2021 10:55:02 486 69
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"drinkers could pay more per bottle on many European wines"

Then we simply won't drink it.

Same with cars.

Brussels bureaucracy will kill European businesses.
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04/02/2021 11:07:26 287 41
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Australian wine is delicious
Chilean is also a good alternative to traditional imports

Everyone knows the French keep the good stuff and import the plonk
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04/02/2021 11:24:23 13 14
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Ignorance personified.
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04/02/2021 11:35:41 15 14
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Are you going to buy Australian cars instead? That'll be a tough one!
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04/02/2021 12:24:47 2 2
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You mean British bureaucracy. Well done, quitters. Well done.
04/02/2021 12:54:07 0 1
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"Fog in Channel; Content cut off"

I can assure from from personal experience that EU businesses are looking at import paperwork from UK vs China and deciding it's no more effort and plenty less money to buy Chinese.
04/02/2021 14:40:11 0 0
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Are you going to buy Australian cars as well?
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04/02/2021 10:47:24 9 8
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Why do we need an HYS on this ????
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04/02/2021 10:55:04 2 0
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Is that a wine whine?
Or are you anti-Australian? Understandable, they cheat at cricket and steal our best talent after we have trained them and they are just starting to pay tax. I've got nothing against them apart from that.
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lovely jubbly
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04/02/2021 10:55:28 282 22
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I have been enjoying quality Australian wines for years now. Hope that this means more in the UK will be able to appreciate the quality. For too long the French thought that they had a monopoly on quality.
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04/02/2021 10:57:24 32 220
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They still do.
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04/02/2021 11:01:04 12 0
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They did, but many Italian wines are at least as good, as indeed are many German ones. I have found Australian wines to be excellent. Not that I am a big drinker so maybe my experience isn't relevant.
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04/02/2021 11:15:40 8 5
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The very best of wine, particularly red, is still French, then probably Spanish, Italian and Austrian (a well kept secret).

However, Chilean and some Aus. & S.A. wines are much better value for money.
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04/02/2021 11:27:22 2 12
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Obviously no idea of the word QUALITY means!
You are not alone.
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04/02/2021 11:40:26 3 2
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Disagree. They lost market share because they were arrogant. They thought the wine would sell itself. They, like the Spanish and Italians whose wines are underrated failed to market their product and educate the next generation of potential wine drinkers. They allowed the Aussies to move in.
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04/02/2021 12:09:09 0 1
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Wolf Blass all the way.
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04/02/2021 10:55:33 599 22
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Happy to drink more and help the Aussies particularly if it makes them less dependent on China
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04/02/2021 11:21:21 196 3
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The prospect of lower wine prices is enough to give me a Semillon . . . .
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04/02/2021 11:22:53 5 0
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What about Kiwi wine? Much softer on the palate.
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04/02/2021 11:32:29 5 6
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They need China, rising middle class on their doorstep. We are 67 million, 50.8% of the Chinese population is middle class from a total of 1 billion plus. No brainer!
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04/02/2021 12:42:57 0 0
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More of a trade deficit for the UK though.
04/02/2021 12:59:17 3 0
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Well with the dreadful record China has on human rights, we should move to boycott Chinese goods and support the exports of countries that do respect human rights. Hit them in the pocket, its the only way to bring them down a peg.
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04/02/2021 10:55:36 159 10
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The more competition there is from world and uk products the easier it will be to keep prices from Europe down.
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04/02/2021 11:43:05 42 27
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No it won't. Our taxes on wine, keep wine prices high. The Euro keeps wine prices high. France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus should never have entered the Euro. It is that which is killing their competitiveness.
04/02/2021 14:47:52 1 0
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I buy everyday French wine for 11 euros for 5 litres. Then I am in France. Your government taxes are what makes wine expensive in the UK.
04/02/2021 20:49:15 0 0
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And less reason to buy from Europe
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04/02/2021 10:55:41 354 23
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Seems like, despite supposedly having a deal with EU, it will be easier to get things from the rest of the world than having to deal with all the political and paperwork barriers that have been put in place.
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04/02/2021 11:00:02 268 22
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absolutely..and maybe vineyards in the UK could grow more and make even more wine for home consumption too
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04/02/2021 11:00:26 28 2
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True

Let the market decide who is being reasonable with the UK

And let consumers advertise that with where they spend their money and take their holidays

The power is in our own hands (and wallets)
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04/02/2021 11:25:18 13 19
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No, it's the exact same paperwork, unless you have a free trade agreement. Which we dont anywhere anymore , Brittania! Remember.
Tho for some odd reason we are trying to join the Pacific trading zone - almost as if joining a free trade zone is good unless it's on your doorstep.
Downvote if you cant handle reality.
955
04/02/2021 12:42:35 0 0
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Those paperwork barrriers are already in place for importing from 3rd countries. Now we have added the EU to the list of 3rd countries we import from.
04/02/2021 14:49:15 0 0
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That the problem, it would appear that the EU is being deliberately awkward, especially when we can buy similar products from the rest of the world much easier. You would expect if there is a deal with the EU to remove tariffs etc it would be easier. In regard to wines the loser are EU wine producers who lose sales
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04/02/2021 10:53:37 724 83
bbc
Well if the French won’t let our shellfish in, we should drop drinking French wine. Some Australian and Californian wines are great.
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04/02/2021 10:55:51 126 760
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No they're not and we all know it. More Britnat Brexiteer denial. Pathetic indeed.
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04/02/2021 10:59:44 153 23
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Funny how the first vaguely abusive/defamatory comment when scrolling down (at time of reading) is from an anti-Brexit Remain voter...
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04/02/2021 11:01:23 102 25
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Says you the wine connoisseur.

More remoaner rubbish!
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04/02/2021 11:09:05 80 0
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Like from most wine regions there are very good and very bad wines. Yes, some New World wines are very good, as are some European wines. Some are horrible. Let's try to keep to the facts!
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04/02/2021 11:12:39 52 2
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Well, first; there's no trade deal with the USA and second, if the Californians make great wine, they keep it to themselves. Oregon and Washington wines are much better.

There are some excellent Australian, Chilean & S.A. wines, if you go to a specialist wine shop, usually at a good price.
obviously you love the EU more than the UK
,,why don`t you move there?, plenty of countries to choose from
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04/02/2021 11:14:06 77 16
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Rubbish from a remoaner.
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04/02/2021 11:18:38 27 1
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Well , the solution is that you keep drinking your French wine and everyone’s happy .
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04/02/2021 11:29:36 20 2
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Sounds like you only drink French wines. “we all know...” is always the precursor to a received narrative (in this case nationalist bigotry) used to dismiss alternatives without reference to facts.
Some AUS and US wines are great - true by all the measures of wine greatness (blind tasting, experts...) and my experience.
And some wines are c**p, even from France.
You still here. I thought you moving to EU. Removed
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04/02/2021 11:34:35 26 4
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Well done; you've found a pathetic new slogan to put in every post. "Britnat Brexiteer".
Grow up and stop being so childish.
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04/02/2021 11:36:54 20 2
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Say's thought disordered John. For Pete's sake when are you lot going to accept we are OUT. The EU probably don't want us back either.
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04/02/2021 11:37:28 15 3
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I trust you will go to the end of the vaccine queue to show solidarity with fellow euphiles
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04/02/2021 11:45:16 14 0
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Here's poor John again folks.
549
04/02/2021 11:47:39 8 0
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Are the pubs open again at last? You appear to be intoxicated..
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04/02/2021 11:48:16 15 0
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Dont be silly John. I voted to remain however I much prefer many New World wines which, in my opinion, are superior to that of the traditional winegrowing areas of Europe.
618
04/02/2021 11:54:18 7 0
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They ARE blocking live shell food
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04/02/2021 12:03:39 11 0
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It’s angry John.......again, and again ??
728
04/02/2021 12:08:09 10 0
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John. Each time you post, you look more ridiculous. Quit while you're.....behind!
730
04/02/2021 12:08:33 9 2
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Throw those sour grapes out with your French Bordeaux, buy British and be proud. Come on you can do it!
762
04/02/2021 12:12:24 6 2
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Californian Cabernet Sauvignon is the best in the world John, and top Aussie Shiraz is a world beater. You need to educate yourself on wines pal
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04/02/2021 12:12:28 7 0
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Refusing to accept defeat to the end - only one persons post here are pathetic and the likes/dislikes prove that emphatically.
819
04/02/2021 12:20:16 5 0
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You may "Think" that, the majority of the World does in fact "Know" it.

Snobbery and a lack of understanding from some people eh!
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nfn
04/02/2021 12:25:08 7 0
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Lived in France for 10 years..... Australia, South Africa, Chile, they all make better wine than the French, who refuse to move with the times.
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04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
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Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
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04/02/2021 10:56:01 21 0
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And they say Breixteers are bigots!!!
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04/02/2021 10:59:39 1 3
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He’s talking about wine, not people.
Plonker!
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04/02/2021 11:10:44 1 1
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that'S Just a given, brexiteers are bigots,
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Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
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Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
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04/02/2021 10:56:14 135 330
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I would suggest you are buying the wrong stuff.
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04/02/2021 11:21:52 11 1
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Each to their own, the figures do speak for themselves and will only get worse for EU wine sales, and what then? Protectionism and tariffs or reduce their prices back down? Oh dear.
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04/02/2021 11:29:23 4 8
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Agree with droids not buying the right French wine.
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04/02/2021 11:29:36 4 1
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Most of the best French table wines are only available to buy within France. The same goes for Italian table wines with most only available to buy within Italy.
Certainly things have changed over time but fundamentally the "best" is kept for "home consumption". Whereas here in the UK I have found it impossible to buy some of the best English wines with 98% of some labels "Export Only".
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04/02/2021 12:05:23 0 0
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Unfortunately, the french don't export their good stuff. Can't say I blame them.
886
04/02/2021 12:31:05 1 0
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Certain he is not unless you wish to pay inflated prices based on 'made in France' on the label. Smacks of the Emperor's new clothes; gullibility in full measure
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SJB
04/02/2021 12:31:44 0 0
bbc
Take out the added sulphates and what have you got.....watered down Ribena.
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04/02/2021 12:40:35 1 0
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"I would suggest you are buying the wrong stuff."

===

I enjoy a decent French wine. I also note that the only way to find one which competes with the Australian stuff on both price and taste is to travel to France and buy it there.

If you can afford a decent French wine in the UK then your wine budget is considerably in excess of mine.
04/02/2021 12:55:37 0 0
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Fifty years ago the best French wines were reasonably priced. Now they are so expensive that they are beyond most people's pockets and one is left buying the less good wines. Pound for pound these wines are inferior to ones that one can obtain from California, Australia, New Zealand and South America. The price differential is likely to increase in favour of the New World wines.
04/02/2021 13:44:25 0 0
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I think you are biased, or have not tried the better Australian produce.
04/02/2021 14:39:17 0 1
bbc
He can't afford the best stuff.
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04/02/2021 10:56:37 48 10
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are you paying attention EU?
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04/02/2021 11:08:28 7 54
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You really think the EU cares a hoot about Britnats?
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04/02/2021 10:56:43 27 2
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It's always China Vs the world
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04/02/2021 11:31:57 6 13
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No it isn't, it was the UK v the world once upon a time. History obviously not one of your strong points!
04/02/2021 14:42:25 0 0
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& USSR.
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04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
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04/02/2021 10:56:46 2 0
bbc
Says the Bells whisky drinker.
14
04/02/2021 10:49:01 9 2
bbc
I didn't even know the Chinese actually drink wine!
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bbc
They drink it in meals with bats. Removed
16
04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
36
04/02/2021 10:57:11 8 0
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typical remoaner,cant tell a good wine from perrier sparkling water(cats p*** sorry)
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04/02/2021 10:52:21 165 17
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Some of the world's best white wines are produced in Kent and Sussex which might explain why Tattinger are buying land there. For reds I choose Australian every time.
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04/02/2021 10:57:19 97 6
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We have a vineyard in our village (in Kent) should we tire of the Aussie stuff.
527
04/02/2021 11:45:18 2 2
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Starting at...£15 a bottle?
04/02/2021 14:53:27 0 0
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Is that the one next to the Portaloos and the lorry park?
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04/02/2021 10:57:19 54 9
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If Brits like wine then they should ONLY be buying from traditional allies Australia, NZ, US etc.

Unlike Aussie beer, their wine is the world’s best.
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04/02/2021 10:59:13 10 1
bbc
Prefer NZ
What you really mean is from from white Anglo-Saxons isn't it? Typical xenophobic Brexiteer mentality. What on earth have they done to this country with their small-minded insularity. Removed
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04/02/2021 10:55:28 282 22
bbc
I have been enjoying quality Australian wines for years now. Hope that this means more in the UK will be able to appreciate the quality. For too long the French thought that they had a monopoly on quality.
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04/02/2021 10:57:24 32 220
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They still do.
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04/02/2021 11:04:44 37 3
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Do you work for a French winery .....or the EU John?

You seem to be taking it very personally that UK consumers are buying wine from outside the EU....through choice
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04/02/2021 11:06:35 32 2
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HA HA HA. No like everything French they THINK they are the best when they're not.
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D
04/02/2021 11:20:34 17 1
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They really don’t. If you go to Oz and take some tours around the various wine regions you’ll find some absolute gems, normally significantly cheaper than similar standard French wines. French wine sells on a reputation that is oft misplaced, there are plenty of winemakers the world over that compete with the best of French.
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04/02/2021 11:38:35 13 1
bbc
You obviously have very low standards John.
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04/02/2021 12:13:39 3 1
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Still THINK they have a monopoly on quality? They do think that, I agree with John!!!!! ??
04/02/2021 13:09:32 1 0
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English sparkling wine is delcious.
04/02/2021 13:10:58 1 0
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OMG!!! He's back!
04/02/2021 13:11:19 1 0
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No they don't. They just market to the gullible who they have conned into believing that the best wines come from France.
04/02/2021 13:47:13 0 0
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French wine is grown using vines imported from America and South America as their own died out due to a blight. But you knew that right?
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04/02/2021 10:57:38 3 4
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"Wine Australia said the UK sales surge was helped by lockdowns and Brexit."

=

hohohohohohohohohoho

For sale for sale, everything must go here, Australian wine, Chinese don't want them, cheaper now for Brits, good for you brits in lockdown
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04/02/2021 11:03:43 2 2
bbc
Chinese imposing a vindictive trade embargo to punish Australia for daring to question China's lies about Covid.
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04/02/2021 11:05:28 2 0
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Greetings to you in PRC
Anything that mitigates against Chinese bullying gets my vote
41
04/02/2021 10:57:43 10 2
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We should look to buy whatever we consider to offer the best value.
04/02/2021 14:16:30 1 0
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Unless it's from the EU.
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04/02/2021 10:49:01 9 2
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I didn't even know the Chinese actually drink wine!
42
04/02/2021 10:57:45 3 0
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You would need to live there to understand. It’s akin to Russia and vodka consumption.
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Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
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Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
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04/02/2021 10:58:00 24 24
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Cheap Aussie wine is better than cheap French wine but all new world wines pales in comparison to top end French and Italian wines.
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04/02/2021 11:21:58 19 5
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Utter rubbish. On average Californian wines are better than the average French - and at the very top of the market they tend to be as good if not superior.
517
04/02/2021 11:43:42 1 2
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true
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04/02/2021 11:53:31 0 1
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That assertion is not borne out by either independent or trade bodies who issue awards for excellence. It maybe true in your estimation however.
04/02/2021 14:44:46 2 0
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Agreed, but most people don’t buy top end wines.
05/02/2021 18:00:54 0 0
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No they don’t. The French wines suffered a crop blight and the Australian and Chilean wines that came from that original stock are now better quality than the EU ones with the same great lineage.
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Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
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Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
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04/02/2021 10:58:14 8 21
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Oh dear. Says a wine expert, no doubt.
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04/02/2021 10:58:30 25 1
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As long as we beat them at cricket.
04/02/2021 14:44:00 0 0
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% tiddlywinks
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04/02/2021 10:51:12 255 37
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If the EU want to "punish" us for leaving them through endless paperwork, we'll go elsewhere. Simple as.
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04/02/2021 10:58:31 75 115
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Except currently there is no paperwork for French/EU imports. When it comes in July it will be splendid, world beating British paperwork.
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04/02/2021 11:34:25 8 8
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We will simply watch how the EU have performed against us in the first 6 months of the year and as you say, our paperwork requirements will be Harry Potteresque. (and you can shove your EU goods to boot.)
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04/02/2021 11:46:32 12 10
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You can't beat a Brexiteer with 'facts' - they're all on a mission to blind us with prejudice to cover their massive mistake!
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dog
04/02/2021 12:25:28 7 6
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The EU bloc will fall apart within 5 years. Merkel already in her bunker awaiting Downfall.
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04/02/2021 12:32:16 7 0
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Just so long as out paperwork ensures French products can't be imported to the UK. Perhaps we should insist that they are translated into Cockney rhyming slang and traditional Scots. That should fix them!
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04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
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Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
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04/02/2021 10:56:02 6 1
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Nonsense and you know it.
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04/02/2021 10:53:30 463 85
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Well we're boycotting EU products anyway due to their petty minded bureaucracy, win for Martijn the sandwich thief in Holland.
So we are buying wine from Aus, NZ, Chile and South Africa and it is excellent.
Also going to be buying a Kia or Hyundai this year, not the Peugeot we planned. Win for Macrons anti UK policy and rhetoric.
We will buy from true friends. The EU can stuff it.
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04/02/2021 10:59:10 71 365
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Except for covid vaccines obviously!

Kia, Hyundai or Peugeot? Your class shines through!
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04/02/2021 11:16:33 51 7
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Yes damn those dirty working classes that keep you rich.

Snob.
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04/02/2021 11:22:45 30 5
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Snob
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04/02/2021 11:24:31 21 7
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I'm no brexiteer, but surely you should not be denigrating other countries makes? Or is it ok just to support your opposing view on brexit?
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04/02/2021 11:26:38 59 5
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I suppose you drive Aston Martins and Mercedes .....your snobbery shines through . .......and most of our covid vaccine is coming from this country .......your ignorance also shines through .
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04/02/2021 11:28:10 37 3
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Having had both French and Korean made cars, I vouch for the higher quality of the latter, which has only gone up over the years
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04/02/2021 11:29:33 37 7
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i bought a jolly Mercedes 500 SL, nice car, but most unreliable heap of junk I have ever owned. German car manufactures are better at marketing than engineering.
542
04/02/2021 11:46:56 8 0
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Check out the difference on manufacturers warranties, Kia and Hyundai blow most other manufacturers away . Still love my Subaru though
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04/02/2021 11:52:18 8 0
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We have an obsession with new cars in the UK and with particular badges. A good car in rural France is defined as inexpensive, reliable and with miles on the clock.
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04/02/2021 12:00:08 3 2
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Yes everyone is forgetting you're the gatekeeper on buying cars, aren't they jason?
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04/02/2021 12:01:51 7 1
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Snob
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dog
04/02/2021 12:16:19 2 0
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Bitter and ricb?
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04/02/2021 12:21:45 6 0
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Your snobbery shows too. Lack of common sense too.
903
04/02/2021 12:33:33 1 0
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you sound like a 'Chelsea tractor boy' to me
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04/02/2021 12:38:41 1 0
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Obviously another obnoxious pro-EU cheerleader with more money than sense. Thanks for confirming the stereotype is actually reality!
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04/02/2021 12:47:23 0 1
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Actually the best vaccine so far is the British developed one. Even better it's actually been used in the UK for 4 weeks longer than in the EU. As for class - well you don't have any. Drive a Merc or BMW probably, as overrated as EU wines. Polluting and expensive to buy and run - why would any intelligent person bother with them
04/02/2021 13:08:29 0 0
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So what super car do you drive?
04/02/2021 13:22:44 0 1
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OMG, what a snob!
04/02/2021 13:44:06 0 0
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Snob
04/02/2021 13:45:18 0 0
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As does your snobbery!
04/02/2021 18:25:29 0 0
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I
have an excellent Hyundai. No problems with it at all. OK not and Aston Martin but does the ob very well. Dont be a snob
04/02/2021 23:06:41 0 0
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Anyone who judges a person based on the car they drive is not the brightest, I do hope you know how to operate the electric windows on your posh limo - lol!
05/02/2021 09:15:06 0 0
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"Kia, Hyundai or Peugeot? Your class shines through!"

Lexus then!
05/02/2021 09:45:52 0 0
bbc
I'm guessing you drive an Audi or BMW?...you know the ones that don't appear to come with indicators?
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04/02/2021 10:57:19 54 9
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If Brits like wine then they should ONLY be buying from traditional allies Australia, NZ, US etc.

Unlike Aussie beer, their wine is the world’s best.
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04/02/2021 10:59:13 10 1
bbc
Prefer NZ
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04/02/2021 11:03:50 0 3
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same place...
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04/02/2021 10:59:24 334 63
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Yet again the BBC uses the contemptuous term "Brits", invented by "Yanks", in its headline.

WE ARE NOT BRITS. There is no such thing.

As for purchasing wine from our friends in Australia - good. Why not? Pity we ever deserted the former Commonwealth for a bunch of lying control-freaks nearer home.
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04/02/2021 11:07:05 66 39
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I'm a Brit
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04/02/2021 11:24:47 26 5
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I am English
329
04/02/2021 11:29:07 4 8
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An 'English gentleman' used to mean something once. Humanity is in constant flux and is tending towards social homogeneity.
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04/02/2021 11:34:23 2 2
bbc
Amen to that!
397
04/02/2021 11:34:35 18 1
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I'm Spartacus
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04/02/2021 11:40:30 11 11
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Surely less environmental impact to ship wines from Europe to the UK, than from other continents? Isn't that a good reason why not?
As I'm British I'm happy to be called a 'Brit' - it's what I am! Never understood why 'Paki' was considered an insult since that's just a shortened form too. Plenty of insulting names out there but those two are not. Removed
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04/02/2021 11:54:40 4 13
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Brits rhymes with something brown and sticky
850
04/02/2021 12:24:36 2 0
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Totally agree, especially if one has been to Northern Ireland, Brit has a very special meaning.
04/02/2021 13:11:33 1 0
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I agree. "Brits' has also been used as a disparaging term by the IRA.

Let's say 'Britons' or 'British people'.
04/02/2021 13:14:36 0 0
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It's a headline, designed to attract attention - and it seems to have got yours.
04/02/2021 13:15:36 0 2
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Judging by the quality of their reporting staff it's probably because they can't spell British
04/02/2021 14:20:04 0 1
bbc
Give it a rest.

And I voted leave.
04/02/2021 14:35:26 0 0
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I'm a Brit, and so is my wife!
04/02/2021 14:45:53 0 0
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I'm a Brit. About 45% Welsh. About 30% English and then a mixture of all sorts of things including Italian and Western Asian. However, when I am introduced to people in France it is as an Anglais. I always put them right. Hoping to be French soon. Your PM is hardly unaverse to telling porkies.
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04/02/2021 10:47:56 648 33
bbc
Good to support our Australian cousins.
51
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And now we have wine nationalism. Thanks again Britnat Brexiteers. Totally pathetic... Removed
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04/02/2021 11:00:23 130 16
bbc
Please, give it a rest. We need to move on. We can't use Brexit to pick at each other for ever.
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04/02/2021 11:04:02 87 4
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Eh? I'm happy to drink more Australian wine as well as European, not instead of.
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04/02/2021 11:07:17 143 33
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The nationalism, pettiness and protectionism is coming from the EU.

The whole world can see this.
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04/02/2021 11:07:53 114 12
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John - do you just have a single track mind. Does everything have to be about Brexit?

Holding on to all that resentment really can't be good for you personally
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04/02/2021 11:11:31 73 5
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John. Calm down.
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04/02/2021 11:10:54 89 4
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What are you tacking about? Why should we not trade with Australia? Getting fed up with these EU xenophobic comments.
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04/02/2021 11:14:01 38 3
bbc
Eh?
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04/02/2021 11:15:58 60 11
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Stop moaning. Go live in the EU if you love it so much. That utopian land that tried to steal our Covid vaccines. Such a lovely place.
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04/02/2021 11:16:42 37 3
bbc
Have a drink John.
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04/02/2021 11:18:26 42 4
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Nothing to do with Brexit.
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04/02/2021 11:25:25 49 5
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You are of course aware that our French friends burned down the Yellowtail Australian wine plant which opened in France, producing better wine than they could. Vive le Aus, and the Aussies play cricket!
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04/02/2021 11:25:37 42 3
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How is this wine nationalism this is nothing to do with Brexit for a change but a spat between Australia and China due to Covid 19. However if we join the CCCCCCPT or whatever it is called and the French continue slagging off our vaccines. French wines may decline and Australian wine increase.
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04/02/2021 11:26:29 19 6
bbc
Oh for goodness sake!!
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04/02/2021 11:32:35 32 4
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Nothing to do with nationalism and everything to do with choice.

Australian wines are good - and still. getting better.
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04/02/2021 11:33:47 13 3
bbc
If you seriously think like that John, you need to seek help. I'll assume you were being sarcastic.
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04/02/2021 11:34:47 15 2
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What's pathetic is the incessant, overblown use of terms such as nationalistic & racist by those suffering from BDS.

How about coming up with facts to support your position, rather than this tired old w(h)ine?

Give it a rest, as you're looking increasingly petulant & irrelevant.
410
04/02/2021 11:35:48 20 2
bbc
Are you missing yelling at the other children in the school playground?
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04/02/2021 11:35:50 13 1
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Supporting people in difficulty is not nationalism.
421
04/02/2021 11:32:48 13 2
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Oh my word, staggeringly mindless
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04/02/2021 11:46:57 4 0
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Living a Coco land, John?
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04/02/2021 11:47:40 6 0
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What are you going on about John. For a start lets not forget one country started Wine nationalism. France!
I dont think Brexit has changed wine nationalism. Its more to do with quality than what country it came from.
557
04/02/2021 11:48:28 7 1
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"Wine Australia said the UK sales surge was helped by lockdowns and Brexit."

"Wine merchants in the UK have warned that drinkers could pay more per bottle on many European wines while choosing from a reduced range as the burden of post-Brexit paperwork takes effect."

2 paragraphs added unnecessarily by BBC to put it as a Brexit story, rather than business as it is actually about Chinese tarrifs.
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04/02/2021 11:50:20 8 0
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Grow up John there is a big world out there
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04/02/2021 11:53:57 2 0
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A sign of a brilliant brexit !
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04/02/2021 11:56:32 6 0
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Ccoocckk
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04/02/2021 11:57:14 7 0
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Pipe down John you miserable sod.
52
04/02/2021 10:59:28 52 8
bbc
Thank goodness.

It will take time, but hopefully this is the first of many developments that will allow goods to reduce in price as we amend our imports to exploit the opportunities that free trade and Brexit have afforded us.

Membership of a protectionist trading bloc has inflated the cost of goods for decades now and I for one relish the opportunity to support emerging nations with our custom.
75
04/02/2021 11:02:07 13 48
bbc
How has the price been reduced?

Remove your brexit specs, you’ll be able to read and understand better.
77
04/02/2021 11:02:11 10 3
bbc
Good news for Australia too, which ahs become far too dependent on China and therefore vulnerable to China's whims.
98
04/02/2021 11:01:22 8 2
bbc
Amen, Ahmed.
Totally agree.
53
04/02/2021 10:59:31 145 6
bbc
There is a lot of snobbery when it comes to wines...but there are still some pretty good wines from Italy and Spain!

Dare I say it though...I think new world wines are as good as if not better than the majority of European wines! I personally find that wines from Chile & New Zealand are particularly good...& Australian wines are of a consistently good quality.
70
04/02/2021 11:01:00 43 15
bbc
In Spain we get cava at €1 per bottle.
It’s delicious.
989
04/02/2021 12:34:09 1 0
bbc
South American wines are superior to French because there is a steady guaranteed supply of water to irrigate vineyards coming from snow melt on the Andes.
French wines rely on rain, hence good and bad years.
30
04/02/2021 10:56:01 21 0
bbc
And they say Breixteers are bigots!!!
54
04/02/2021 10:59:39 1 3
bbc
He’s talking about wine, not people.
Plonker!
29
04/02/2021 10:55:51 126 760
bbc
No they're not and we all know it. More Britnat Brexiteer denial. Pathetic indeed.
55
04/02/2021 10:59:44 153 23
bbc
Funny how the first vaguely abusive/defamatory comment when scrolling down (at time of reading) is from an anti-Brexit Remain voter...
687
T1
04/02/2021 12:01:03 13 0
bbc
As my grandmother used to say - if you've got nothing good to say, be quiet.

John I suggest you to be quiet for a long time.
5
04/02/2021 10:50:32 278 34
bbc
Aussie wine is just as good if not better than most EU wines, so this is no bad thing!
56
04/02/2021 10:59:51 29 322
bbc
It's rubbish and you know it.
140
Ray
04/02/2021 11:08:48 18 0
bbc
Who cares - after the third bottle it does not matter !!!
196
04/02/2021 11:15:42 33 2
bbc
If you find it impossible to cope with Brexit there are a few solutions you may consider one of which is a permanent move to France a solution that solves all your problems at a stroke.
270
04/02/2021 11:23:52 12 2
bbc
Not true - there are some good EU wines.
298
D
04/02/2021 11:26:22 26 1
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All of it?

Australia won 6 best in shows at the 2019 and 2020 decanter awards placing them 3rd overall. It would seem those who know about wine disagree with you.
320
04/02/2021 11:28:13 20 0
bbc
....you must be a French wine wholesaler .
445
04/02/2021 11:38:04 3 1
bbc
You can't beat a hobart muddy
507
04/02/2021 11:42:34 6 2
bbc
You wouldn't know good wine if you swam in it.
574
04/02/2021 11:50:24 7 1
bbc
Take a junior disprin and go and have a lie down John
760
04/02/2021 12:12:10 2 0
bbc
Strange that when watching the Saturday morning cooking programmes, the wine expert(s) rarely if ever mentions French wine, is it because its overrated and over priced, or is not really that good compared to New World wines?
767
04/02/2021 12:13:05 3 0
bbc
You are obviously drinking the wrong stuff, or are you just a wine snob.
791
04/02/2021 12:16:45 2 1
bbc
The rubbish is the posts you've been making denigrating anything & everything not produced within the EU.

Sour grapes...
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dog
04/02/2021 12:21:57 2 0
bbc
Thats your opinion and you are very opinionated. Are you a French troll? Get a life.
887
04/02/2021 12:31:38 2 1
bbc
Seriously, what have you got against Australia? Or are you the representative for le Union de vin Francais?
937
04/02/2021 12:39:03 2 0
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nothing like wine to bring out snobbishness in people. Its a drink!! What you like or not is purely down to your own opinion. Ive tasted a few first growths that I wouldnt pay £10 for, but loads of very nice £8 bottles. So what??
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CEP
04/02/2021 12:41:00 1 0
bbc
so you being an expert on French wine would it be the terroir that gives it the taste or maybe it's the root stock of the vine or perhaps even the grape variety of the region ... all of which contribute to the taste of a wine ... and please note most of the new world wines are grown from the same root stock as European wines
962
04/02/2021 12:44:07 1 0
bbc
Dear John ... you really are out on a limb supporting the French on this forum. Don't you get, we only voted Brexit because of the French. It is that La Haine et L'Amour that just fuddles normal politics on both side. If the French were not in Europe, so zee pragmatic Germans running Europe we would not have Brexit and that is from a lovely French friend of mine.
04/02/2021 13:14:10 1 0
bbc
Oh dear - another wine snob. The French sure have you fooled. You can't produce any evidence to support your statement. Top 'wine experts' - frequently choose wine from the Antipodes and other parts of the world over the French stuff
04/02/2021 13:22:34 1 0
bbc
I must repeat. OMG!!! He's back again! and again!! and again!!! and again!!!! John, please get another hobby. People are beginning to think that you are a complete eejit.
04/02/2021 13:38:29 1 0
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No it's not. The French "dump" their over-rated and overpriced rubbish wines here! New World wines are very good
04/02/2021 15:09:16 0 0
bbc
You don`t drink much wine?
57
04/02/2021 10:59:55 2 6
bbc
I prefer Italian wine.
100
04/02/2021 11:04:52 2 0
bbc
Pay more for it Badger, your loss
58
04/02/2021 10:59:55 17 3
bbc
Perfect time to nail Australia to the floor for a good trade deal.
356
04/02/2021 11:31:01 1 4
bbc
How?
04/02/2021 18:42:04 0 0
bbc
Are you totally thick !
28
04/02/2021 10:55:41 354 23
bbc
Seems like, despite supposedly having a deal with EU, it will be easier to get things from the rest of the world than having to deal with all the political and paperwork barriers that have been put in place.
59
04/02/2021 11:00:02 268 22
bbc
absolutely..and maybe vineyards in the UK could grow more and make even more wine for home consumption too
133
04/02/2021 11:08:19 5 16
bbc
Yep, but who's going to pick the grapes?
256
04/02/2021 11:22:42 22 2
bbc
We are already beating the French at competitions with our English sparkling wines. The UK climate of today is broadly how the French climate used to be, so in theory we should be able to make better wines than those that come from northern France. Looking forward to tasting English "Loire, Burgundy and Beaujolais" type wines! No reason why wine can't be made in Scotland as well - the Roman's did!
277
04/02/2021 11:24:57 2 9
bbc
Limited at best.
400
04/02/2021 11:34:45 3 1
bbc
A benefit of global warming!
408
04/02/2021 11:35:44 10 2
bbc
Agree with you however UK wines are so bloody expensive. There is Bolney wine down the road from me. Their sparkly is £30 a bottle.
415
04/02/2021 11:36:14 4 5
bbc
Sadly, I've yet to find a British wine that will match even the cheapest import for taste or price.
699
04/02/2021 12:03:12 5 0
bbc
UK vineyards can produce some excellent white wines, but our climate just isn't hot enough for really good quality reds.
722
04/02/2021 12:07:16 1 0
bbc
Brits cannot grow reds. Awful stuff.
868
04/02/2021 12:27:22 1 1
bbc
English Sparking wines(comme Champagne) have won loads of blind tastings against their alleged(but not true) superior Champagne competition.
04/02/2021 12:51:35 0 0
bbc
Some English sparkling wines are cheaper and better than French Champagne. The French rely very heavily on us Brits buying their overpriced, overrated Champagne.
04/02/2021 13:36:05 0 0
bbc
Only wine I drink is a sparkling English Rose (I'm exceedingly fussy and like the uber sweet stuff)
04/02/2021 14:41:52 0 0
bbc
No Shiraz will grow in the UK.
04/02/2021 19:23:52 0 0
bbc
Think that possibly producing more food would be a higher priority.
60
04/02/2021 11:00:04 131 22
bbc
UK 1, Sandwich inspectors 0.
74
04/02/2021 11:02:01 72 20
bbc
2-0 now, we have a good vaccine rollout. Could be 1-1 though the ze pesky EU decide to steal our supplies
89
04/02/2021 11:03:13 5 4
bbc
????
392
04/02/2021 11:34:16 13 11
bbc
Seriously!
You are presumably aware that when trying to enter ANY country you are not in a free trade agreement with import of ANY amount of meat,fruit,vegetable is not permitted without proper documents.
It's what you voted for.
14
04/02/2021 10:49:01 9 2
bbc
I didn't even know the Chinese actually drink wine!
61
04/02/2021 11:00:11 1 6
bbc
They've moved on from opium forced on them by the East India Company.
634
04/02/2021 11:55:59 5 0
bbc
My understanding was the East India Company moved in on the already existing trade and streamlined and modernised it for export markets. They certainly didn’t create the opium trade in any way. That’s as naive as claiming white Europeans invented the slave trade.
9
04/02/2021 10:52:19 2 5
bbc
I very much doubt that the two things are linked but I suppose it makes for a good story.
62
04/02/2021 11:00:13 5 2
bbc
What two things? The push by Aussie producers to find other markets is due to the vindictive Chinese punishment for daring to ask for an investigation into the source of Coivd
63
04/02/2021 11:00:22 38 6
bbc
But what about the overpriced rubbish that comes from France, we have to pay more for that now.... oh well I will stick to the Aussie wine. Damn Brexit!
105
04/02/2021 11:05:40 13 10
bbc
If French wine is overpriced in the UK, look at the taxes inflicted by the UK gov, not the French producers.
And now we have wine nationalism. Thanks again Britnat Brexiteers. Totally pathetic... Removed
64
04/02/2021 11:00:23 130 16
bbc
Please, give it a rest. We need to move on. We can't use Brexit to pick at each other for ever.
309
04/02/2021 11:27:14 8 56
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It won't be forever. Demographics (sped along by COVID) will see us back in the EU in about ten years. Then the divisions will end
394
04/02/2021 11:34:24 4 34
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We can and we will

Boomers have screwed the young on so many issues, wealth, housing, the environment, jobs. Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I'll support people I like, not those that happened to be born inside the same arbitrary border. From now on we go our separate ways
28
04/02/2021 10:55:41 354 23
bbc
Seems like, despite supposedly having a deal with EU, it will be easier to get things from the rest of the world than having to deal with all the political and paperwork barriers that have been put in place.
65
04/02/2021 11:00:26 28 2
bbc
True

Let the market decide who is being reasonable with the UK

And let consumers advertise that with where they spend their money and take their holidays

The power is in our own hands (and wallets)
16
04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
66
04/02/2021 10:56:39 2 0
bbc
Is that one of those remoaner "facts"?
I feel I'm being lied to right now.
67
04/02/2021 10:57:26 22 0
bbc
I'll drink to that !
68
04/02/2021 11:00:46 4 0
bbc
Wine is great.
121
04/02/2021 11:07:21 2 0
bbc
No arguing with that Timmy!! LOL!
69
04/02/2021 11:00:55 4 16
bbc
Brexit: The gift that keeps on taking.
53
04/02/2021 10:59:31 145 6
bbc
There is a lot of snobbery when it comes to wines...but there are still some pretty good wines from Italy and Spain!

Dare I say it though...I think new world wines are as good as if not better than the majority of European wines! I personally find that wines from Chile & New Zealand are particularly good...& Australian wines are of a consistently good quality.
70
04/02/2021 11:01:00 43 15
bbc
In Spain we get cava at €1 per bottle.
It’s delicious.
164
04/02/2021 11:11:26 8 4
bbc
Not using Euros in Spain? If wouldn't drink anything that cost a £1, like buying milk for 5p, gotta wonder what crap it really is!
Chepo whino come to mind!
198
04/02/2021 11:15:55 9 5
bbc
If you like the taste of cheap Cava, then I suggest you stay there and enjoy it - each to his own. I'm no wine snob, but I do drink 3 or 4 bottles a week and I'm afraid I would not buy Cava regardless how cheap it was.
246
04/02/2021 11:21:31 13 3
bbc
Why is it €1 in Spain and significantly more across the rest of Europe?

Just shows how many countries blatantly ignore EU rules.
276
04/02/2021 11:24:54 15 1
bbc
We never could get it at that price in the UK even when we were in the so-called ‘single market’.
Funny that.
288
04/02/2021 11:25:38 10 0
bbc
Most of that Euro is on the bottle and transport. You gotta wonder what left for the wine
316
04/02/2021 11:28:00 13 1
bbc
It's rubbish as the price testifies to. Your palate needs an education.
422
04/02/2021 11:36:40 9 1
bbc
Just goes to show how the high life has mangled your palate .
04/02/2021 15:04:51 1 0
bbc
Don't send any more to the UK, they prefer to buy elsewhere.
25
04/02/2021 10:55:28 282 22
bbc
I have been enjoying quality Australian wines for years now. Hope that this means more in the UK will be able to appreciate the quality. For too long the French thought that they had a monopoly on quality.
71
04/02/2021 11:01:04 12 0
bbc
They did, but many Italian wines are at least as good, as indeed are many German ones. I have found Australian wines to be excellent. Not that I am a big drinker so maybe my experience isn't relevant.
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04/02/2021 11:01:04 47 5
bbc
I always buy seasonal British food now where I can afford it, and in the case of wines(pardon the pun) I don’t buy EU wine anymore, I can get all the great wine varieties I want from either Chile ???? Argentina ???? New Zealand ???? or Australia ???? No worries ??
143
04/02/2021 11:09:00 29 4
bbc
And South Africa ???? of course. Never really got on with French or German wines in particular. I prefer the more modern new world wines.
466
04/02/2021 11:40:07 1 1
bbc
Absolutely. In fact, since I stopped buying EU wines, the only one I miss is Dura from Portugal. Never mind though, lots of other lovely reds to chose from.
556
04/02/2021 11:48:28 2 0
bbc
Argentina - now here's a real friend of Britain!
04/02/2021 13:52:09 0 0
bbc
And it's great that supermarkets categorise by country if origins - so you can march right by the EU countries and go straight to the new world and antipodean wine shelves.
16
04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
73
04/02/2021 11:01:36 5 0
bbc
You obviously haven't drunk some of the stuff that the French have to water down to make palatable then.
60
04/02/2021 11:00:04 131 22
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UK 1, Sandwich inspectors 0.
74
04/02/2021 11:02:01 72 20
bbc
2-0 now, we have a good vaccine rollout. Could be 1-1 though the ze pesky EU decide to steal our supplies
04/02/2021 15:06:22 1 0
bbc
They are making their own mainly.
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04/02/2021 10:59:28 52 8
bbc
Thank goodness.

It will take time, but hopefully this is the first of many developments that will allow goods to reduce in price as we amend our imports to exploit the opportunities that free trade and Brexit have afforded us.

Membership of a protectionist trading bloc has inflated the cost of goods for decades now and I for one relish the opportunity to support emerging nations with our custom.
75
04/02/2021 11:02:07 13 48
bbc
How has the price been reduced?

Remove your brexit specs, you’ll be able to read and understand better.
347
04/02/2021 11:30:06 1 8
bbc
They won't! You assume reading and cognitive skills at your peril!
916
04/02/2021 12:36:32 8 0
bbc
I've just received the latest offers from my supplier, with some fantastic Australian wines at 20-30% less than they were 6 months ago.

Try taking off those blue tinted, star besplattered blinkers & have a look at some reality.
04/02/2021 12:57:55 5 0
bbc
Oh dear jasonh, you descend to insults as your first port of call.

Oddly enough, the more you import/buy any commodity the lower the unit cost tends to be

If only the EU had followed through on being a massive free trading market rather than 'ever closer political union' then its people would enjoy significant benefits of membership - it's why we joined and (the lack of it) why we chose to leave
2
04/02/2021 10:47:24 9 8
bbc
Why do we need an HYS on this ????
76
04/02/2021 11:02:08 1 0
bbc
Because it’s about wine ?
52
04/02/2021 10:59:28 52 8
bbc
Thank goodness.

It will take time, but hopefully this is the first of many developments that will allow goods to reduce in price as we amend our imports to exploit the opportunities that free trade and Brexit have afforded us.

Membership of a protectionist trading bloc has inflated the cost of goods for decades now and I for one relish the opportunity to support emerging nations with our custom.
77
04/02/2021 11:02:11 10 3
bbc
Good news for Australia too, which ahs become far too dependent on China and therefore vulnerable to China's whims.
78
04/02/2021 11:02:11 42 9
bbc
Don't mind a drop of Aussie wine,tastes better than french whine!
79
04/02/2021 11:02:17 5 4
bbc
Seems all anyone in the UK cares about in this pandemic is booze and holidays.
80
04/02/2021 11:02:31 7 2
bbc
their loss our benefit, thanks Europe !
81
04/02/2021 11:02:33 6 1
bbc
Australian companies already produce more wine in France than the French. That's by volume - not quality. Check out the labels but if you want good value reds then Aus, California and SA are by far the best! Just look at the climates where the grapes grow and ripen.
French don't produce much - too lazy and just sit around criticizing others especially that Macron bitch they have in charge despite him being less popular in france than Blair is in the UK.
16
04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
82
04/02/2021 10:59:11 6 0
bbc
Totally predictable and utterly hilarious comment. Cheers!
1
Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
bbc
Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
83
04/02/2021 11:01:03 19 0
bbc
Or vin-vin.
172
04/02/2021 11:12:48 2 0
bbc
Touche!
84
04/02/2021 11:02:39 16 3
bbc
I am trying to avoid buying EU and chinese products but i have found that it is not easy to do, some products its easier than others. and certainly are big price differences on some products depending on where they come from. I currently own a Citroen but it will be the last going Japanese next. I didnt before bother where stuff was made but I do now after the behaviour of EU and chinese
18
04/02/2021 10:53:37 724 83
bbc
Well if the French won’t let our shellfish in, we should drop drinking French wine. Some Australian and Californian wines are great.
You should surely only be drinking British wine, though I hear it's mostly white and rather bitter. Removed
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04/02/2021 11:16:28 83 3
bbc
British wine is hardly made now and is can be made from imported grape juice.

But English wine is an altogether different thing. The sparkling variety has beaten the finest champagnes in blind tastings.
306
04/02/2021 11:27:01 1 2
bbc
Regardless of the sentiment of the post, you get a thumbs up for the clever pun.
409
04/02/2021 11:35:46 8 1
bbc
In fact a UK wine from Norfolk won the World Cup of wine (white wine category) a couple of years ago. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your snobbery.
494
04/02/2021 11:43:02 2 0
bbc
Actually it's rather good & stocked on occasion by Aldi.
540
04/02/2021 11:46:31 4 0
bbc
There's a vineyard about half a mile from where I live, I'll just ago and check for you. I am sure they do red as well. Might take a few days to get back to you though.
636
LR1
04/02/2021 11:56:26 1 0
bbc
incorrect - if you had tried it you would know.
664
04/02/2021 11:57:42 12 1
bbc
British sparklers now comfortably match Champagne.
688
04/02/2021 12:01:11 6 0
bbc
Actually, UK white wines (English mainly, grown in the South East) are pretty darn good - sparkling wines in particular - although admittedly pricey. It's been said that thanks to climate change, the SE (Kent, Sussex, Hampshire, Dorset...) now has a better climate for producing champagne-style wines than Champagne, and good soils too.
86
04/02/2021 11:02:55 5 24
bbc
How much more Britnat Brexiteer denials are we to be subjected to? Every serious wine drinker knows that Australian wine is of poor quality. Who are you guys trying to kid?
109
04/02/2021 11:06:00 4 0
bbc
Watch out John, your bigotry and prejudice are showing!
110
04/02/2021 11:06:02 1 0
bbc
Qualifications? Or just a lifelong AA member who can't tell the difference once bottle three is opened??
113
04/02/2021 11:06:42 1 0
bbc
Utter rubbish
Some of the very best wines are not made in Europe.
115
04/02/2021 11:06:51 2 2
bbc
Most of them drink at spoons, quality isn’t important to them.
119
04/02/2021 11:07:07 0 0
bbc
You obviously have absolutely no idea about wines. They produce some of the best wines on the planet.
126
04/02/2021 11:07:37 0 0
bbc
Plenty of nice wines from non EU countries.
148
04/02/2021 11:09:20 0 0
bbc
Shows how much you know about wine! Whilst Europe certainly does make fine wine, that wine only makes up a small % of their output and the rest is poorer than an average wine from the New World. Fine wine from Australia can match all but the finest that the EU can produce.
16
04/02/2021 10:53:15 1 42
bbc
Australian wine is the worst on planet Earth. It's almost undrinkable. Thanks Britnat Brexiteers.
87
04/02/2021 11:02:58 6 1
bbc
How wrong are you my friend. Australian wine is fine. You are just a remainer moaning. An Aussie would say a whinging Pom??
88
04/02/2021 11:03:12 46 10
bbc
I'm boycotting French wine because of Macron's behaviour so this is good news for me.
624
04/02/2021 11:55:06 22 2
bbc
Me too.
60
04/02/2021 11:00:04 131 22
bbc
UK 1, Sandwich inspectors 0.
89
04/02/2021 11:03:13 5 4
bbc
????
Presumably it's party because between 52% and 90% of UK persons are now refusing to buy any eu wine due to their gross anti uk attitudes to everything especially from that failed german idiot they put in charge without an election.
04/02/2021 14:14:06 4 0
bbc
That woman was not even on the EU parliament's short list of three candidates. She was parachuted in after making a mess of the German defense portfolio.
91
04/02/2021 11:03:26 39 1
bbc
Wine merchants in the UK have warned that drinkers could pay more per bottle on many European wines while choosing from a reduced range as the burden of post-Brexit paperwork takes effect.
----

Only if they choose to. A fool & his money.....................
1
Hex
04/02/2021 10:47:06 524 79
bbc
Tastes a damn sight better than the overrated French wine, win-win.
92
04/02/2021 11:03:40 21 30
bbc
Haha the obligatory Brexiteer comment "it's better than (product) from (EU country) anyway"

We all know it's the flavour of your politics leading your taste buds ??
40
04/02/2021 10:57:38 3 4
bbc
"Wine Australia said the UK sales surge was helped by lockdowns and Brexit."

=

hohohohohohohohohoho

For sale for sale, everything must go here, Australian wine, Chinese don't want them, cheaper now for Brits, good for you brits in lockdown
93
04/02/2021 11:03:43 2 2
bbc
Chinese imposing a vindictive trade embargo to punish Australia for daring to question China's lies about Covid.
49
04/02/2021 10:59:13 10 1
bbc
Prefer NZ
94
04/02/2021 11:03:50 0 3
bbc
same place...
And now we have wine nationalism. Thanks again Britnat Brexiteers. Totally pathetic... Removed
95
04/02/2021 11:04:02 87 4
bbc
Eh? I'm happy to drink more Australian wine as well as European, not instead of.
96
04/02/2021 11:04:21 5 1
bbc
I wish our trade was solely with countries you can trust and we have a history with. The sooner we stop buying from China the better, imo. Communists using slave labour to undercut world trade, producing nothing of quality purely stuff on the cheap. They have a long history of ripping-off patented designs/processes and do as they like due to their total disregard for global rules
132
04/02/2021 11:08:14 0 2
bbc
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you know anything called automation?
159
04/02/2021 11:11:00 0 0
bbc
A lot of the stuff is of poor quality and doesn't last but is so cheap that it just gets thrown away and replaced. Kettles are a case in point recently.
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04/02/2021 10:57:24 32 220
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They still do.
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04/02/2021 11:04:44 37 3
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Do you work for a French winery .....or the EU John?

You seem to be taking it very personally that UK consumers are buying wine from outside the EU....through choice
No doubt, Britnats are known all over the world to be less refined in their taste. All they really crave is plonk - so the cheaper and nastier the better. Removed
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04/02/2021 10:59:28 52 8
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Thank goodness.

It will take time, but hopefully this is the first of many developments that will allow goods to reduce in price as we amend our imports to exploit the opportunities that free trade and Brexit have afforded us.

Membership of a protectionist trading bloc has inflated the cost of goods for decades now and I for one relish the opportunity to support emerging nations with our custom.
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04/02/2021 11:01:22 8 2
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Amen, Ahmed.
Totally agree.
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04/02/2021 10:55:51 126 760
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No they're not and we all know it. More Britnat Brexiteer denial. Pathetic indeed.
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04/02/2021 11:01:23 102 25
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Says you the wine connoisseur.

More remoaner rubbish!
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04/02/2021 10:59:55 2 6
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I prefer Italian wine.
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04/02/2021 11:04:52 2 0
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Pay more for it Badger, your loss