Government 'painfully slow' on protecting environment
03/02/2021 | news | politics | 438
There are serious delays in tackling “critical” issues like air quality and wildlife loss, MPs say.
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03/02/2021 10:15:42 16 12
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I'd take more notice of the Public Accounts Committee if they once reported that the Government was doing something well.

Opposition for opposition's sake is pointless.
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03/02/2021 10:32:31 10 11
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The Government Vaccine rollout is to be applauded; everything else they have done is TOO LIITLE TOO LATE. If Bozo had got his finger out in 2020, we wouldn't now have the highest Death rate in Europe. He should have prepared the Country: Bought sufficient PPE, Closed the borders to all but essential traffic; Locked down sooner; we would be out of this crisis now. He is now responsible for this.
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03/02/2021 10:35:41 5 2
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So if you rule out exams, lockdowns, world beating app, Covid Management, Covid Communication, Cummings/Cain impacts, last minute bad Brexit Deal what does that leave?
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03/02/2021 10:46:07 4 2
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Cant report on something that doesn't exist
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03/02/2021 10:15:48 24 13
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What? A HYS where we all get to pile in and talk about the shortcomings of this government? I must be dreaming.
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03/02/2021 10:34:13 27 13
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Sadly every subject reveals the shortcomings of the government.
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03/02/2021 10:44:01 11 1
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Mate if we were to only have HYS's on things the government didn't mess up then I don't think we would have much to talk about, maybe just the vaccine rollout.
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03/02/2021 10:49:40 8 6
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Environment promises not met.

100,000 plus dead from Covid-19. Borders shut far too late.

£300 billion deficit and rising

Worst Brexit "deal" possible.

Unemployment, recession and misery.

Kids not in school and the exam fiasco last year.

No shortcomings of this bunch of idiots led by a clown for the public to see of comment about?

Really?
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03/02/2021 11:14:45 3 2
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When it comes to the natural environment
It's the shortcomings of every political party
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03/02/2021 12:23:36 4 0
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As supposedly free people we need to be able to criticise the actions of our elected leaders, otherwise we may as well be in North Korea or Stalinist Russia.

You are also free not to comment on this article if it upsets your, or you could also comment on the positive ones there have been recently, such as the article of the success of the vaccine roll out.
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03/02/2021 10:16:48 14 17
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Bozo the Clown is a serial liar and doesn't care about the environment. Far too many of his backers are obsessed on developing it for money and trashing it in the process.

He can't upset them.

Wildlife doesn't make the profit that cheap housing and offices do.

The historical evidence clearly shows it.
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MVP
03/02/2021 10:20:31 32 5
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It is too easy for governments to make sweeping long term promises about the environment knowing they will only be in power for a short time

It is too important to get this wrong and a longer term approach is needed
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03/02/2021 17:11:12 4 2
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At least we had environmental protection enshrined in law when we were in the EU. Now the UK government will have a free for all as their donors line their pockets to seek more business contracts that will harm the environment & our wildlife. We’re already seeing this with the opening of the first coal mine in the 21st century and legalising use of bee-killing neonicotinoids in the past few weeks.
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03/02/2021 10:22:18 10 12
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Boris does nothing. New coal mine, cancels nuclear power stations, HS2..
UK is a total disaster.
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03/02/2021 11:27:58 2 1
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Well what do you expect when people want "Green" electric cars, ain't getting elecrtic cars with out coal. Coal is used in the steel industry.
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03/02/2021 10:22:27 104 5
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If you want to stop the steep decline in wildlife (especially in the South of England), stop building houses on every scrap of land, it really is that simple.

Now, the big question, why do we need so many new 'homes'?
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03/02/2021 10:27:44 18 40
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Its not the housing being built, although with a birth rate ratio of 1.9 you have to wonder why are we building loads of new houses. Its farm land, if you zoom in on Google Earth there is to much farm land, the President of Brazil said about the rainforest and farmland in the Amazon he said look at the UK on Google Earth, we are hypocrites, we have no vast wild land...
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Bob
03/02/2021 10:56:30 2 18
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There are more trees in the south than the north.
Only 5.9% of land built on.
You are fake news.
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03/02/2021 11:01:39 20 19
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One of very many reasons I voted for Brexit, to reduce the increase in population and the subsequent trashing of the environment.
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03/02/2021 11:28:24 5 17
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Because there are too many large 3 and 4 bedroom homes only inhabited by 1 or 2 people.
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03/02/2021 12:09:12 3 0
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To keep croney-capitalism afloat. next.
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03/02/2021 13:49:11 2 0
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Too many 2nd homes.
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03/02/2021 15:00:13 2 0
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We will need to put the 350,000 from Hong Kong somewhere
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03/02/2021 17:55:05 1 0
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I'm asking the same question. There are millions of vacant and derelict properties in the UK, so why can't those be used?
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03/02/2021 18:28:11 0 0
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We have so many people in UK. Perhaps USA would like to take some of us as they have more space by far than we have.
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03/02/2021 10:25:42 9 14
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I think Greta asked for this to be published
She's had nothing to whinge about for a while
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03/02/2021 10:33:23 5 1
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She's dropped out of campaigning to return to school so think again.
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03/02/2021 11:12:44 2 2
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She has done more than you ever have or will about anything. Credit to her for drawing attention to climate change.
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03/02/2021 10:22:27 104 5
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If you want to stop the steep decline in wildlife (especially in the South of England), stop building houses on every scrap of land, it really is that simple.

Now, the big question, why do we need so many new 'homes'?
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03/02/2021 10:27:44 18 40
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Its not the housing being built, although with a birth rate ratio of 1.9 you have to wonder why are we building loads of new houses. Its farm land, if you zoom in on Google Earth there is to much farm land, the President of Brazil said about the rainforest and farmland in the Amazon he said look at the UK on Google Earth, we are hypocrites, we have no vast wild land...
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03/02/2021 10:45:30 28 2
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Spot on, we cut down all our forests, the problem was that this was done centuries before we knew the importance of them. Brazil should know better instead of playing whataboutism
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col
03/02/2021 11:15:26 23 2
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Comparing Brazil and the UK. The UK never had a rain forest, hasn't had more forest than it has now for at least 100 yrs.
Population denisity in England is about 430 people per square kilometer, in Brazil there are 25!
The UK needs every square meter to grow food.

In Brazil they burn a patch of forest, farm till it loses fertility and than burn down another patch leaving a waste land behind!
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03/02/2021 12:01:35 7 2
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Of course we have no 'vast wild land', England is one of the most densely populated nations on the planet (and don't give me that 'Vatican City' is more densely inhabited drivel, I said 'nations').

I'd love to see more space dedicated to 'wilds', but even having enough agricultural land to feed everyone in the UK is impossible. Honestly, how much space do townies think it takes to feed them?!
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03/02/2021 14:24:56 3 4
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Having 4 million extra people from the EU living here does not help and is putting immense pressure to build on the Green Belt. 1950 50 million in UK and stable 2020 68 million and rising. same land space . Too many people let into the Country in the last 20 years.
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04/02/2021 06:59:49 0 0
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Its not just the amount of farm land , its the intensive agriculture that goes on with it. The huge featureless mono crops in the east of england spring to mind. They offer very little to wild life , the thin strips of hedges are not enough.
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04/02/2021 19:53:53 0 0
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UK Land Area is 69% agriculture yet we have to import 80% of the calories we consume. Land area remains a constant and can't reasonable be considered the variable. Demand is the issue, which is created through population growth. We need to reduce our population in England to be sustainable.
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03/02/2021 10:28:34 7 9
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Sorry but all the money has been blown of Brexit, at least £50bn a year lost tax revenue so no money for anything else.
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03/02/2021 10:31:30 8 8
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You've got to admit the government are very quick though to hand out dodgy contracts to donors at mates rates.......
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03/02/2021 10:15:42 16 12
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I'd take more notice of the Public Accounts Committee if they once reported that the Government was doing something well.

Opposition for opposition's sake is pointless.
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03/02/2021 10:32:31 10 11
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The Government Vaccine rollout is to be applauded; everything else they have done is TOO LIITLE TOO LATE. If Bozo had got his finger out in 2020, we wouldn't now have the highest Death rate in Europe. He should have prepared the Country: Bought sufficient PPE, Closed the borders to all but essential traffic; Locked down sooner; we would be out of this crisis now. He is now responsible for this.
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03/02/2021 11:20:39 6 2
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Actually, the people are to blame not Boris. the only thing he should've done early is the forced 14 day isolation for people coming into the country. The only reason we have a higher death rate is due to cretins who have parties, protesting, and not obeying basic rules like 2M distance, wear a mask. Look at USA they are worse because they don't obey the rules.
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03/02/2021 10:32:12 5 5
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There's no votes in spending money on intangibles like the environment so Tories have ignored it.

If you won't spend on the NHS you won't spend on the environment.
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03/02/2021 10:34:04 11 7
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Its only the virus that's stopped hoards of 4 x 4 driving Hooray Henrys, killing wildlife and rampaging all over the countryside
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03/02/2021 11:00:38 6 6
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really! is that what they do?

I have an electric car & keep a 4x4 for towing my caravan which supports the British economy such as:

Caravan manufacturers
insurance
staying on farms
spending money in local communities etc

Or I could ditch it all & get on a plane to sit on beach & spend my money abroad

My car is well maintained & is one of the least polluting 4 x 4s out there so leave off
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03/02/2021 10:34:34 10 6
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"Painfully slow" ... in comparison to what, BBC ?

Unless China, India and the USA cut down enormously whatever gets done in the UK is a drop in the ocean in environmental terms.

Of course some people won't be happy until we're all camping in fields shivering to death because we're not allowed heat or light ...
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03/02/2021 11:02:34 2 0
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I agree with you on a planetary aspect. But for our own native animals we also need to do things... And they need doing 10 years ago, not now.
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03/02/2021 10:35:41 32 3
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The government always says the right thing, says we are going to do this and that and it will be fantastic but when it comes to action they do very little. Government is just a game to them they don't care as long as they stay in government.
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03/02/2021 11:27:36 16 4
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Same with all parties. No integrity.
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03/02/2021 10:25:42 9 14
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I think Greta asked for this to be published
She's had nothing to whinge about for a while
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03/02/2021 10:33:23 5 1
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She's dropped out of campaigning to return to school so think again.
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03/02/2021 10:15:48 24 13
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What? A HYS where we all get to pile in and talk about the shortcomings of this government? I must be dreaming.
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03/02/2021 10:34:13 27 13
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Sadly every subject reveals the shortcomings of the government.
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03/02/2021 10:15:42 16 12
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I'd take more notice of the Public Accounts Committee if they once reported that the Government was doing something well.

Opposition for opposition's sake is pointless.
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03/02/2021 10:35:41 5 2
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So if you rule out exams, lockdowns, world beating app, Covid Management, Covid Communication, Cummings/Cain impacts, last minute bad Brexit Deal what does that leave?
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03/02/2021 10:37:46 4 5
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Money talks...Conservatives, especially, tend to listen to the money. Not much hope for real change whilst that remains true.
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03/02/2021 11:15:56 2 3
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The problem is "Green" energy just shifts the CO2 elsewhere and is not as effective as fossil fuels , with the best options being Hydrogen, (no infrasturcture) Nuclear (though techincally not renewable it will far outlast humans) or water. Solar is pointless espically in the north of england scotland, wind is just useless as it has a limted range (5-15, with top efficacy at 7mph).
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03/02/2021 10:36:47 2 12
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If you ask me, what we need is someone to do a charity walk around their garden in their slippers before raising a load of dosh, then jetting off to Barbados to celebrate the great victory over climate change, but ultimately paying the price for their stupidity and dying of old age.
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03/02/2021 10:48:47 10 3
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What a nasty mean spirited person you are, I feel sorry for you, you are clearly damaged.
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03/02/2021 10:49:33 3 2
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Well, what we don't need is a miserable troll

On topic; I think for the tiny island we are, we are doing extremely well on climate change.
But I will not be driven back to the middle ages by it
I would love solar power or even my own wind power generator but by working for a living I can get a grant up to £5,000 whilst if i didn't bother supporting myself I would get £10,000!
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03/02/2021 12:25:51 3 0
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What a sad excuse for humanity you must be. What is it that you think you see when you look in a mirror?
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03/02/2021 10:42:42 7 6
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Posh boy Bojo is all mouth and just says the popular thing ..build, build build! Peter Rabbit would have more idea on the environment.
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03/02/2021 10:43:48 4 8
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Time to re open coal mines to boost economy
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03/02/2021 11:01:11 1 1
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Looks like some people don't get the tongue in cheek comment.
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03/02/2021 10:58:37 0 0
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One mistake made and won't be repeated.
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03/02/2021 10:15:48 24 13
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What? A HYS where we all get to pile in and talk about the shortcomings of this government? I must be dreaming.
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03/02/2021 10:44:01 11 1
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Mate if we were to only have HYS's on things the government didn't mess up then I don't think we would have much to talk about, maybe just the vaccine rollout.
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03/02/2021 10:41:22 55 2
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Let's not be naïve. Politicians like to look good by spouting fine words about saving the planet. But fine words don't cost them anything. The bottom line is that most politicians really don't give a damn about conservation and sustainability. The only thing they want to sustain is their comfortable lifestyle.

The rare decent person who becomes a politician often doesn't last long.
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03/02/2021 11:16:19 20 28
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That goes for all parties. And Labour is 100 time wore when it comes to the environment.
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03/02/2021 10:27:44 18 40
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Its not the housing being built, although with a birth rate ratio of 1.9 you have to wonder why are we building loads of new houses. Its farm land, if you zoom in on Google Earth there is to much farm land, the President of Brazil said about the rainforest and farmland in the Amazon he said look at the UK on Google Earth, we are hypocrites, we have no vast wild land...
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03/02/2021 10:45:30 28 2
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Spot on, we cut down all our forests, the problem was that this was done centuries before we knew the importance of them. Brazil should know better instead of playing whataboutism
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Bob
03/02/2021 10:59:05 1 3
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More forestland year on year as far back as the forestry commission provides data for.
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03/02/2021 13:09:08 2 5
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On the other hand, developing countries need to develop. Brazil has a lot of poverty problems. It is a little bit rich for a 90%+ deforested country to tell others not to cut down their trees and then offer no solutions to their development. We could rewild the UK... get rid of all the sheep and arable fields... but then we'd be even more dependent on imports. Global solutions are required.
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03/02/2021 10:15:42 16 12
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I'd take more notice of the Public Accounts Committee if they once reported that the Government was doing something well.

Opposition for opposition's sake is pointless.
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03/02/2021 10:46:07 4 2
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Cant report on something that doesn't exist
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03/02/2021 10:36:47 2 12
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If you ask me, what we need is someone to do a charity walk around their garden in their slippers before raising a load of dosh, then jetting off to Barbados to celebrate the great victory over climate change, but ultimately paying the price for their stupidity and dying of old age.
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03/02/2021 10:48:47 10 3
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What a nasty mean spirited person you are, I feel sorry for you, you are clearly damaged.
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03/02/2021 10:36:47 2 12
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If you ask me, what we need is someone to do a charity walk around their garden in their slippers before raising a load of dosh, then jetting off to Barbados to celebrate the great victory over climate change, but ultimately paying the price for their stupidity and dying of old age.
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03/02/2021 10:49:33 3 2
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Well, what we don't need is a miserable troll

On topic; I think for the tiny island we are, we are doing extremely well on climate change.
But I will not be driven back to the middle ages by it
I would love solar power or even my own wind power generator but by working for a living I can get a grant up to £5,000 whilst if i didn't bother supporting myself I would get £10,000!
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03/02/2021 10:15:48 24 13
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What? A HYS where we all get to pile in and talk about the shortcomings of this government? I must be dreaming.
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03/02/2021 10:49:40 8 6
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Environment promises not met.

100,000 plus dead from Covid-19. Borders shut far too late.

£300 billion deficit and rising

Worst Brexit "deal" possible.

Unemployment, recession and misery.

Kids not in school and the exam fiasco last year.

No shortcomings of this bunch of idiots led by a clown for the public to see of comment about?

Really?
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03/02/2021 10:57:08 8 5
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Don't forget:
-Argued to leave children hungry
- food shortages in Northern Ireland
- violence rising in Northern Ireland due to the border implemented by the tories
- Eat out to help out which caused a new wave of the virus
- Dominic Cummings
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03/02/2021 10:53:13 4 8
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Because, of course, there's nothing else important to worry about at the moment, is there?
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03/02/2021 10:55:26 20 4
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UK government's spending watchdog should be looking with urgency into how public money vanishes in the devolved parts of the UK. Squandered locally and regionally on ill-thought-through "glory" projects to further parochial political ends within minority political movements. Until this deliberate misapplication of budget is dealt with,confidence in the Public Accounts control service will be low.
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03/02/2021 12:50:48 6 6
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Completely irrelevant to the article...
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03/02/2021 10:53:42 55 4
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Stop cutting down woodlands and building on greenfield sites . No field’s or woods no wildlife
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Bob
03/02/2021 11:03:26 10 7
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Forestland has grown for every year the Forestry Commission provides data for (23 years).

So much for cutting it all down.
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03/02/2021 11:06:39 8 1
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Not all fields are good, many are 'green desert'. Modern meadows for hay have about three varieties of vigorous grass and zero wild flowers!
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04/02/2021 12:07:54 0 0
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'Brownfield' sites are often really good habitats for certain species - such as my slippery little friends.

There are old tanners yards and ironworks I know personally which teem with rare birds, bats, amphibians, insects and plants.

The combination of wild plants, rubble and flooded ponds, and minimal human disturbance, suits some wildlife better than agricultural or forestry land.
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03/02/2021 10:22:27 104 5
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If you want to stop the steep decline in wildlife (especially in the South of England), stop building houses on every scrap of land, it really is that simple.

Now, the big question, why do we need so many new 'homes'?
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Bob
03/02/2021 10:56:30 2 18
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There are more trees in the south than the north.
Only 5.9% of land built on.
You are fake news.
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04/02/2021 20:01:01 0 0
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Just because land isn't built on doesn't mean it's not being utilised. Your body only occupies about 0.3% of the volume in your living room but that doesn't mean you can realistically cram ~1000 people in there. England currently requires the resources of 4x it's land area according to the global hectares measurement.
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03/02/2021 10:49:40 8 6
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Environment promises not met.

100,000 plus dead from Covid-19. Borders shut far too late.

£300 billion deficit and rising

Worst Brexit "deal" possible.

Unemployment, recession and misery.

Kids not in school and the exam fiasco last year.

No shortcomings of this bunch of idiots led by a clown for the public to see of comment about?

Really?
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03/02/2021 10:57:08 8 5
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Don't forget:
-Argued to leave children hungry
- food shortages in Northern Ireland
- violence rising in Northern Ireland due to the border implemented by the tories
- Eat out to help out which caused a new wave of the virus
- Dominic Cummings
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03/02/2021 10:57:12 46 6
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So long as people in the UK think a 4x4 is "necessary" to drive one child a km to school then I don't think there's much hope for us.

We could all do better, but, really, can enough of us be bothered? Not to say those who try should stop trying - just don't expect things to get better at a national level.
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03/02/2021 11:46:46 28 7
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How about a super tax on 4x4s? Farmers and others who actually require them could be exempt, similar to the reduction in tax on red diesel. Too many government fingers in rich pies, I suspect.
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03/02/2021 11:56:58 5 5
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Most of the 4 x 4 s you moan about are two wheel drive versions.
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03/02/2021 12:52:59 6 4
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Many people who live in rural areas would struggle to get anywhere in winter without a 4x4 vehicle (myself included). I'm not a farmer, nor do I use it to merely to "nip to the shops".

So while I do take your point about footballers wives and "full time Mummies" having them for no reason other than to "look good"(or so they think), don't assume we're all tarred to the same brush.
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03/02/2021 17:29:31 0 0
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The government could easily set progressive maximum CO2 emission figures for new cars running up to the so called ban on fossil fuel cars in 2030.
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04/02/2021 23:45:36 0 0
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So instead of jetting around and cruising the world I tow a caravan. I need a 4x4 for that with weight to tow safely.
I live in an isolated place that frequently gets snow, so I need a 4x4.

I'll save the planet by buying another car to run my kids to school and go shopping in - oh wait a minute , more carbon to produce the 2nd car.
I'll use the 4x4 for both.
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03/02/2021 10:57:13 66 3
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Let's not delude ourselves, shall we?

Politicians always talk a good game, but back in the real world they are still allowing new housing developments to be built on green-field sites after allowing developers to ride roughshod over any local opposition.

In the end; pandering to big business and making the economy look better, if only in the short term, is always the No.1 priority.
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03/02/2021 12:44:24 4 10
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Whilst I agree with most of what you say, if it was down to local opposition as to whether anything new got built there wouldn't be a single new house built in the next decade (except in the ghettoised areas), be very lucky to see new garden sheds.
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03/02/2021 18:25:41 1 0
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There is something we are not being told. I hear foreign voices all the time where I live, in a smallish town, not students either. Not democratic if we are ignored.
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03/02/2021 10:57:39 5 4
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What do you expect when the government can't provide funding for dedicated firefighting aircraft. Hundreds of land based crews and other volunteers spending days trying to extinguish these massive fire when converted chinooks could put them out in a matter of hours.
It's costing over £50m annually to fight these fires in the UK. Two chinooks would cost 1/5th of that.
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03/02/2021 10:45:30 28 2
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Spot on, we cut down all our forests, the problem was that this was done centuries before we knew the importance of them. Brazil should know better instead of playing whataboutism
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Bob
03/02/2021 10:59:05 1 3
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More forestland year on year as far back as the forestry commission provides data for.
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03/02/2021 10:59:27 6 9
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The problem is that activists like Roger keep conflating the climate change scam with environmentalism. Conservation is not served well by association with global warming pseudoscience.
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03/02/2021 11:10:01 7 3
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Except Global warming is in fact, real.
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03/02/2021 11:08:44 3 3
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Almost all activists refer to the actual science around climate change.

Climate Change Deniers never refer to any verifiable science.
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03/02/2021 10:59:34 3 4
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Birds can't fly through diesel fumes. Butterflies can't fly through cement dust. Hedgehogs need - err! Hedges?
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03/02/2021 10:34:04 11 7
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Its only the virus that's stopped hoards of 4 x 4 driving Hooray Henrys, killing wildlife and rampaging all over the countryside
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03/02/2021 11:00:38 6 6
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really! is that what they do?

I have an electric car & keep a 4x4 for towing my caravan which supports the British economy such as:

Caravan manufacturers
insurance
staying on farms
spending money in local communities etc

Or I could ditch it all & get on a plane to sit on beach & spend my money abroad

My car is well maintained & is one of the least polluting 4 x 4s out there so leave off
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03/02/2021 10:43:48 4 8
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Time to re open coal mines to boost economy
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03/02/2021 11:01:11 1 1
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Looks like some people don't get the tongue in cheek comment.
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03/02/2021 10:34:34 10 6
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"Painfully slow" ... in comparison to what, BBC ?

Unless China, India and the USA cut down enormously whatever gets done in the UK is a drop in the ocean in environmental terms.

Of course some people won't be happy until we're all camping in fields shivering to death because we're not allowed heat or light ...
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03/02/2021 11:02:34 2 0
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I agree with you on a planetary aspect. But for our own native animals we also need to do things... And they need doing 10 years ago, not now.
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col
03/02/2021 11:03:01 29 6
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The UK is leading the word in this. We don't need politicians to act, just to stay out of our way.
SO
Have less kids, buy less crap, insulate your house & check out the companies you buy from.
We control our future. Companies provide what we will pay for. So only buy the right stuff and companies will do the right things.
You have the power to change the world, why wait for politicians?
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03/02/2021 18:54:33 4 3
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Wow downvoted by people. Wonder if they are the ones who think its the governments fault for everything & that they are never responsible for anything.
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03/02/2021 10:53:42 55 4
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Stop cutting down woodlands and building on greenfield sites . No field’s or woods no wildlife
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Bob
03/02/2021 11:03:26 10 7
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Forestland has grown for every year the Forestry Commission provides data for (23 years).

So much for cutting it all down.
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03/02/2021 14:36:58 4 1
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Non indigenous species in sterile woodlands. Then plough the ground up with mountain bikers and the result: mud bath.
Not a blue print for wildlife is it!
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04/02/2021 06:39:51 2 0
bbc
The kind of regimented planting of pine and fir favoured in the past is no good for biodiversity. Ancient forest which is disappearing fast is far superior.
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04/02/2021 13:35:03 2 0
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Yes, but it's all conifers, not proper mixed woodland.
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03/02/2021 11:06:50 75 6
bbc
Heres something controversial. ALL new builds MUST have solar panels on a south and west facing roof. "living" roofing put on the east and north facing surfaces.
ALL new builds MUST have hedgerows and NOT fences. With at least two holes maintained for small mammals (hedgehogs)
ALL new builds must be on reclaimed development not Green belt.
Public transport should not be private.
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03/02/2021 11:24:08 13 36
bbc
Problem with solar, it is useless in the north and scotland, not enough sun and massively reduced solar energy getting through.
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03/02/2021 12:01:10 19 1
bbc
Factories, warehouses, offices and other non-domestic buildings have roofs which should be covered with solar panels. It doesn't have to be the building's owner who has to budget for that - they could simply rent out the roof space to an energy company who pays for the panels and sells the energy to the grid.
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03/02/2021 13:27:17 8 1
bbc
How's that controversial, it sounds sensible
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03/02/2021 15:01:48 5 1
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We also need much more Hydro-electric power to generate when there is no wind or sun
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03/02/2021 16:57:30 1 0
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Scotland currently produces more than 90% of its electricity through renewables, so off to a good start and showing what can be achieved if the will's there :-

https://www.scottishrenewables.com/our-industry/statistics
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04/02/2021 23:41:11 0 0
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And stick a mini wind turbine to every house as well.
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03/02/2021 10:58:14 11 4
bbc
We can all do our bit to help the environment, lots of little things.

What are other posters here doing? What sacrifices and efforts are you making?
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Ian
03/02/2021 12:18:39 11 1
bbc
Agree. My wife and I decided not to have children; we don't take foreign trips, we recycle what we can, have insulated our house and only drive when we need to. How's that for starters?
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03/02/2021 12:54:40 4 3
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Not pretending like Brexit was the best thing ever and the saviour of the environment like you are pandering on other comments for one... You talk about effort but don't even bother to do such basic research on those comments...

You give environmentalists a bad name.
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03/02/2021 13:53:20 0 0
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I get meat from butchers, don't eat vegan as its far worse for the environment,
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03/02/2021 10:43:48 4 8
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Time to re open coal mines to boost economy
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03/02/2021 10:58:37 0 0
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One mistake made and won't be repeated.
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03/02/2021 10:44:01 11 1
bbc
Mate if we were to only have HYS's on things the government didn't mess up then I don't think we would have much to talk about, maybe just the vaccine rollout.
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03/02/2021 10:59:27 6 9
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The problem is that activists like Roger keep conflating the climate change scam with environmentalism. Conservation is not served well by association with global warming pseudoscience.
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03/02/2021 11:10:01 7 3
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Except Global warming is in fact, real.
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03/02/2021 11:22:25 2 3
bbc
The oil industry employs a ;lot of people to spread misinformation about climate change and greener technology. Do not be taken in by it.
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03/02/2021 11:36:10 2 3
bbc
It is real. So is global cooling. They alternate in a cyclical fashion. Nothing to do with CO2 though.
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03/02/2021 10:22:27 104 5
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If you want to stop the steep decline in wildlife (especially in the South of England), stop building houses on every scrap of land, it really is that simple.

Now, the big question, why do we need so many new 'homes'?
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03/02/2021 11:01:39 20 19
bbc
One of very many reasons I voted for Brexit, to reduce the increase in population and the subsequent trashing of the environment.
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03/02/2021 11:14:13 22 16
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Lol, really? Well we could control immigration before brexit, we voted to reduce immigration of the highly educated europeans (who usually have a lower birth rate) in favour of immigration from further afield (who traditionally have higher birth rates). Oh and since Brexit the tories have signed a deal to allow in several million Hong Kongers....

I think you shot yourself in the foot...
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03/02/2021 12:37:45 11 5
bbc
Did you also vote for Boris with his 6 kids (that we know of) and counting?
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03/02/2021 16:33:10 1 0
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Surely you'll welcome back the British migrants and their families returning from Spain, Portugal etc en masse ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-parliaments-47816000
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03/02/2021 11:12:52 22 12
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Any political party that claims to care about the natural environment in the UK is a bare faced liar.
You can't protect it while allowing the equivalent of a new Newcastle thru the door every yr
Lab & Lib say they'd extend FoM to most of the world, even Greens want every migrant to have the right to bring their whole family

Want a natural environment?
Find a way to run things with fewer people
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03/02/2021 11:30:31 7 18
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We did. We voted for Brexit! Already it is estimated that 1.3 million EU workers have returned home. I know we are about to receive a small influx from Hong Kong, but that will be a one off, and less overall than the huge annual increases we have seen over the last decade or so.
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03/02/2021 11:01:39 20 19
bbc
One of very many reasons I voted for Brexit, to reduce the increase in population and the subsequent trashing of the environment.
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03/02/2021 11:14:13 22 16
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Lol, really? Well we could control immigration before brexit, we voted to reduce immigration of the highly educated europeans (who usually have a lower birth rate) in favour of immigration from further afield (who traditionally have higher birth rates). Oh and since Brexit the tories have signed a deal to allow in several million Hong Kongers....

I think you shot yourself in the foot...
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03/02/2021 11:20:13 15 17
bbc
We voted to reduce the number of cash in hand car washers! And you sound rather racist, favouring white EU workers over varied international ones. I would rather be able to choose workers from around the globe than be stuck with them from just one area.
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FT
03/02/2021 16:41:03 1 0
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I wasn't aware Eastern European car washers and fruit pickers were considered 'highly educated'.
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04/02/2021 20:03:00 0 0
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Not true. We had to permit EU citizens the right of residence in the UK.
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03/02/2021 10:15:48 24 13
bbc
What? A HYS where we all get to pile in and talk about the shortcomings of this government? I must be dreaming.
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03/02/2021 11:14:45 3 2
bbc
When it comes to the natural environment
It's the shortcomings of every political party
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03/02/2021 11:20:42 3 8
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Labour are the worst.
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03/02/2021 10:27:44 18 40
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Its not the housing being built, although with a birth rate ratio of 1.9 you have to wonder why are we building loads of new houses. Its farm land, if you zoom in on Google Earth there is to much farm land, the President of Brazil said about the rainforest and farmland in the Amazon he said look at the UK on Google Earth, we are hypocrites, we have no vast wild land...
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col
03/02/2021 11:15:26 23 2
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Comparing Brazil and the UK. The UK never had a rain forest, hasn't had more forest than it has now for at least 100 yrs.
Population denisity in England is about 430 people per square kilometer, in Brazil there are 25!
The UK needs every square meter to grow food.

In Brazil they burn a patch of forest, farm till it loses fertility and than burn down another patch leaving a waste land behind!
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04/02/2021 18:04:28 0 0
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But the UK did have a rainforest. Temperate rainforest covered many western areas but only a few patches of it remain. Google “Atlantic temperate rainforest” if you don’t believe me. Forest cover is increasing but is still only 13% of the land area, much lower than in most of Europe.

Do we really need every square metre to grow food? We’re one of the fattest countries in Europe!
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03/02/2021 10:37:46 4 5
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Money talks...Conservatives, especially, tend to listen to the money. Not much hope for real change whilst that remains true.
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03/02/2021 11:15:56 2 3
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The problem is "Green" energy just shifts the CO2 elsewhere and is not as effective as fossil fuels , with the best options being Hydrogen, (no infrasturcture) Nuclear (though techincally not renewable it will far outlast humans) or water. Solar is pointless espically in the north of england scotland, wind is just useless as it has a limted range (5-15, with top efficacy at 7mph).
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GFT
03/02/2021 11:17:05 3 9
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The problem is the 'environment' has been hijacked by misguided climate alarmists - which has resulted in the neglect of existential environmental issues such as pollution, habitat loss, over-fishing and natural resource squandering.

The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven but burning fossil fuels can be clearly seen to be polluting and wastes a limited natural resource.
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03/02/2021 11:22:46 6 2
bbc
It has been proven, stop lying because you can not understand real facts
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RPH
03/02/2021 11:23:19 6 1
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"The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven" Keep playing your fiddle, Nero, and let the grown-ups handle it.
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03/02/2021 11:47:18 2 5
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CO2 is good for the environment and plants love it - An entire year of global lockdowns of some forms hasn’t even budged the atmospheric levels 1 ppm off their natural cycles - So YES to good environmental management and NO to an irrational obsession of CO2
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03/02/2021 11:04:22 13 11
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To all the lefties posting on here. Labour are total and utter rubbish when it comes to the environment. They are townies mostly, thus the countryside is way down their agenda. I have never seen a useful document on the environment come from Labour. or the 'Green' Party, who are just the SWP in disguise, and actually wanted to increase immigration!
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03/02/2021 12:04:43 2 4
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[Sigh] Whilst I would agree on Labour, who are still fighting the political battles of the 1970s and 1980s (rather like the Tories), the Greens are far more progressive on the environment. As for immigration, it's irrelevant.
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03/02/2021 12:17:31 2 3
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Why are you bringing immigration into a story about green issues ?

Why bring up lefties ?. This is a article about Government failing, not lefties failing

The Labour party manifesto was fantastic for solving the housing heating issues which are notoriously not green.

The green party proposals are too fantastic.

You seem to be a Tory bot telling everyone else is bad, and Tories are less worse
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col
03/02/2021 11:19:23 8 3
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Can I mention the market for solar panels?

The tory Govt removed subsidies.

Environmentalist said this would be a disaster.

All that happened was that the con artists getting fat of subsidies left the industry leaving the good firms behind.

Solar efficiency is up and yet the costs have fallen.
More people are installing solar now than before.

Sometimes Govt intervention is not a good thing.
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03/02/2021 11:25:58 9 0
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Older solar panels wee a con, would never have paid for themselves, so the scheme was nonsense and needed stopping. As technology improves, perhaps it should be reintroduced.
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03/02/2021 11:19:42 4 9
bbc
If you go back to yesterday’s topics one of the main things stopping exports of sea food to the EU was the lack of clean sea water to wash it in.
This is due to the Tory spin words of ‘cutting red tape’. It means the salmon farms can pollute the estuaries plus sewage and chemical run off into the rivers goes unchecked.
Yet they can turn the blame on someone else and nobody thinks any different.
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03/02/2021 11:24:31 4 1
bbc
I never buy farmed salmon, it is environmentally damaging. And not a patch on proper wild salmon for flavour!
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03/02/2021 11:35:28 6 0
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Your hatred for 'Tories' means you see them everywhere, responsible for everything.
Vast majority of salmon farms are in Scotland, where their position etc is entirely governed by Scottish Govt, ie SNP.

You need both eyes open and the ability to criticise all / any in order to improve the environment for all.
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03/02/2021 12:45:38 1 0
bbc
Going back to yesterday's story it was the lack of tanks to store the seafood in, not sea water.
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03/02/2021 10:53:42 55 4
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Stop cutting down woodlands and building on greenfield sites . No field’s or woods no wildlife
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03/02/2021 11:06:39 8 1
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Not all fields are good, many are 'green desert'. Modern meadows for hay have about three varieties of vigorous grass and zero wild flowers!
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04/02/2021 06:17:43 0 0
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Green Desert is double speak , and modern vigorous grass does not make hay
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03/02/2021 10:32:31 10 11
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The Government Vaccine rollout is to be applauded; everything else they have done is TOO LIITLE TOO LATE. If Bozo had got his finger out in 2020, we wouldn't now have the highest Death rate in Europe. He should have prepared the Country: Bought sufficient PPE, Closed the borders to all but essential traffic; Locked down sooner; we would be out of this crisis now. He is now responsible for this.
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03/02/2021 11:20:39 6 2
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Actually, the people are to blame not Boris. the only thing he should've done early is the forced 14 day isolation for people coming into the country. The only reason we have a higher death rate is due to cretins who have parties, protesting, and not obeying basic rules like 2M distance, wear a mask. Look at USA they are worse because they don't obey the rules.
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QED
03/02/2021 13:08:22 2 1
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USA being worse nothing to do with Trump undermining the doctors, downplaying and denying covid so supporters think it’s all a scam then...Boris was always a Trump apologist, I always wonder if the moment a eu deal was inevitable was the moment he realised there would be no trump to get a quick USA deal from...
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03/02/2021 10:48:47 10 3
bbc
What a nasty mean spirited person you are, I feel sorry for you, you are clearly damaged.
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03/02/2021 10:59:27 6 9
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The problem is that activists like Roger keep conflating the climate change scam with environmentalism. Conservation is not served well by association with global warming pseudoscience.
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03/02/2021 11:08:44 3 3
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Almost all activists refer to the actual science around climate change.

Climate Change Deniers never refer to any verifiable science.
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03/02/2021 11:33:45 2 5
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Here's one off the top of my head .... Arctic sea ice extent last year was the same as 1940, but atmospheric CO2 levels were 100ppm greater. I thought you said CO2 levels drove climate. They obviously don't.
And when you call people "deniers" you are following a religion. A crank religion.
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GFT
03/02/2021 11:17:05 3 9
bbc
The problem is the 'environment' has been hijacked by misguided climate alarmists - which has resulted in the neglect of existential environmental issues such as pollution, habitat loss, over-fishing and natural resource squandering.

The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven but burning fossil fuels can be clearly seen to be polluting and wastes a limited natural resource.
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03/02/2021 11:22:46 6 2
bbc
It has been proven, stop lying because you can not understand real facts
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03/02/2021 10:32:12 5 5
bbc
There's no votes in spending money on intangibles like the environment so Tories have ignored it.

If you won't spend on the NHS you won't spend on the environment.
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GFT
03/02/2021 11:17:05 3 9
bbc
The problem is the 'environment' has been hijacked by misguided climate alarmists - which has resulted in the neglect of existential environmental issues such as pollution, habitat loss, over-fishing and natural resource squandering.

The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven but burning fossil fuels can be clearly seen to be polluting and wastes a limited natural resource.
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RPH
03/02/2021 11:23:19 6 1
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"The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven" Keep playing your fiddle, Nero, and let the grown-ups handle it.
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03/02/2021 10:28:34 7 9
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Sorry but all the money has been blown of Brexit, at least £50bn a year lost tax revenue so no money for anything else.
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03/02/2021 10:25:42 9 14
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I think Greta asked for this to be published
She's had nothing to whinge about for a while
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03/02/2021 11:12:44 2 2
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She has done more than you ever have or will about anything. Credit to her for drawing attention to climate change.
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03/02/2021 18:47:17 1 0
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And adolescent depressive illnesses.
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03/02/2021 11:06:50 75 6
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Heres something controversial. ALL new builds MUST have solar panels on a south and west facing roof. "living" roofing put on the east and north facing surfaces.
ALL new builds MUST have hedgerows and NOT fences. With at least two holes maintained for small mammals (hedgehogs)
ALL new builds must be on reclaimed development not Green belt.
Public transport should not be private.
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03/02/2021 11:24:08 13 36
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Problem with solar, it is useless in the north and scotland, not enough sun and massively reduced solar energy getting through.
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03/02/2021 12:28:42 23 0
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not true, mine a 4kw array produces 3200kw/hr/year, longer day length and cooler temperature improve the situation. Real problem is 3 good days in May produce as much power (90kw/hr) as is generated for all of Jan&Feb combined. Economially storing the energy (between seasons) is the problem, just storing say 1kw/hr for night use costs more than the panels. Storing 'electricty' is the problem.
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03/02/2021 13:24:03 14 1
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Solar energy doesn't require constant clear blue skies! There are plenty solar panels on buildings in Scotland (even on east/west-facing roofs), and a growing number of solar farms, too. But it is depressing that they're not on every roof, and even when they are fitted on new-builds, there are typically only one or two token panels.
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col
03/02/2021 11:24:43 25 4
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It won't be politicians that save the environment,
It won't be environmentalists

It will be consumers and big business.

We demand renewable energy, business will sell it to us. Electric cars, they will sell it to us, insulation, bio degradable packaging, repairable rather than throw away? If we demand it, business will move to making it.
All we need to do is make green profitable.
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03/02/2021 13:15:34 17 1
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The main problem with your point is that the consumers are not "demanding" the things you have stated. Most always go for the cheapest options and they are more often that not, not environmentally friendly.

The unfortunate truth is that to get the biggest changes, you need them to be enforced into law from the top. The UK Government is slow to do this, which is what the article is about.
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03/02/2021 10:22:18 10 12
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Boris does nothing. New coal mine, cancels nuclear power stations, HS2..
UK is a total disaster.
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03/02/2021 11:27:58 2 1
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Well what do you expect when people want "Green" electric cars, ain't getting elecrtic cars with out coal. Coal is used in the steel industry.
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03/02/2021 12:07:33 0 0
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You think cars are made out of steel?
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03/02/2021 11:16:05 5 3
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Signs that UK Govt is more environmentally aware than previous Govts or Opposition, eg commitments to Climate change, marine sanctuaries etc,

but here in Wales, our Labour Govt very much in the pockets of Landowners and Farmers, resisting the hugely successful European Rewilding programme, billiard table green hills etc. while England & Scotland make real progress on species reintros like beaver
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03/02/2021 12:15:38 1 4
bbc
Here in Wales we far prefer Labour to tory.
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03/02/2021 10:41:22 55 2
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Let's not be naïve. Politicians like to look good by spouting fine words about saving the planet. But fine words don't cost them anything. The bottom line is that most politicians really don't give a damn about conservation and sustainability. The only thing they want to sustain is their comfortable lifestyle.

The rare decent person who becomes a politician often doesn't last long.
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03/02/2021 11:16:19 20 28
bbc
That goes for all parties. And Labour is 100 time wore when it comes to the environment.
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03/02/2021 13:09:02 6 3
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as usual someone else's fault lets try to defect
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03/02/2021 13:39:15 7 3
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Rather embarrassing comment, Hostamosta.

You know, you right-wing types really do a poor job of trying to convince people you're alright when the first thing you do on an article about the environment, is make an argument about how Labour is "wore [sic]" than the Conservatives.
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03/02/2021 17:15:14 1 0
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Gordon Brown introduced the requirement for all new houses built from 2016 to be zero carbon, but George Osborne cancelled it in 2015.
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03/02/2021 10:22:27 104 5
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If you want to stop the steep decline in wildlife (especially in the South of England), stop building houses on every scrap of land, it really is that simple.

Now, the big question, why do we need so many new 'homes'?
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03/02/2021 11:28:24 5 17
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Because there are too many large 3 and 4 bedroom homes only inhabited by 1 or 2 people.
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03/02/2021 11:32:15 14 1
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That is partially because of a lack of homes that those householders would like to move into - which are generally two bedroom bungalows with a bit of garden. So they stay rattling about in the big family home.
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04/02/2021 20:04:30 0 0
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You can live in a shed if you like.
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03/02/2021 10:31:30 8 8
bbc
You've got to admit the government are very quick though to hand out dodgy contracts to donors at mates rates.......
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03/02/2021 11:14:13 22 16
bbc
Lol, really? Well we could control immigration before brexit, we voted to reduce immigration of the highly educated europeans (who usually have a lower birth rate) in favour of immigration from further afield (who traditionally have higher birth rates). Oh and since Brexit the tories have signed a deal to allow in several million Hong Kongers....

I think you shot yourself in the foot...
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03/02/2021 11:20:13 15 17
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We voted to reduce the number of cash in hand car washers! And you sound rather racist, favouring white EU workers over varied international ones. I would rather be able to choose workers from around the globe than be stuck with them from just one area.
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03/02/2021 11:35:57 12 10
bbc
Way to make assumptions, you called me racist when I made no comment about colour whatsoever, if anything i was commenting on how deprivation influences birth rates.

Personally I am v pro immigration and think we are stronger for having a multi-cultural society. I was just pointing out how reality goes against what a number of racist people voted for.
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03/02/2021 12:34:55 13 5
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You are mistaken if you thought voting for Brexit would aid in helping the Environment and reduce our population... (Which is not the same as reducing immigration). Never heard a single prominent Brexit campaigner state that they wanted this.

Just another piece of evidence onto the massive pile that shows you didn't know what you voted for, and your other comments prove this.
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03/02/2021 16:42:47 1 0
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" I would rather be able to choose workers from around the globe"

=====

That choice was always there, UK as a sovereign nation within EU was in full control of it's own non EU immigration.

And had authority should they wish to evict any EU nationals after three months if they became a burden on the state.
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04/02/2021 20:05:28 0 0
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Then you're OK with anti-native racism then. You 'anti-racists' are all the same, total hypocrites with double standards.
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03/02/2021 11:14:45 3 2
bbc
When it comes to the natural environment
It's the shortcomings of every political party
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03/02/2021 11:20:42 3 8
bbc
Labour are the worst.
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03/02/2021 11:38:14 6 0
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The only way to help the environment is to make and enforce regulations. Not to remove them, or not police them in the interest of profit. Self regulation has failed in all areas.
However the really basic thing is to regulate population growth. No matter what you regulate or subsidise extra people take up room, use stuff and move about. Can’t be helped. Masses of people to work, just no training.
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03/02/2021 12:28:30 5 1
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And the Tories are better? Our Tory PM hailed his NI deal as "fantastic" and is weeks later asking the EU to change it because he screwed up.

Your own words on the issue - "I think that NI should just ignore the border and let food in regardless. I mean what are the EU going to do?"

You think labour (or a child) couldn't come up with better?
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03/02/2021 11:10:01 7 3
bbc
Except Global warming is in fact, real.
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03/02/2021 11:22:25 2 3
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The oil industry employs a ;lot of people to spread misinformation about climate change and greener technology. Do not be taken in by it.
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04/02/2021 10:28:06 0 0
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You mean like how in the USA the eco lobby group mangers to syphon $4 billion of tax payers money to their causes. Whereas the oil companys get virtually zero. What little they do get indirectly is how to make process more efficient including engines.

Or dont you want efficient engines with reduced emissions?
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03/02/2021 10:34:13 27 13
bbc
Sadly every subject reveals the shortcomings of the government.
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03/02/2021 11:19:42 4 9
bbc
If you go back to yesterday’s topics one of the main things stopping exports of sea food to the EU was the lack of clean sea water to wash it in.
This is due to the Tory spin words of ‘cutting red tape’. It means the salmon farms can pollute the estuaries plus sewage and chemical run off into the rivers goes unchecked.
Yet they can turn the blame on someone else and nobody thinks any different.
81
03/02/2021 11:24:31 4 1
bbc
I never buy farmed salmon, it is environmentally damaging. And not a patch on proper wild salmon for flavour!
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col
03/02/2021 11:19:23 8 3
bbc
Can I mention the market for solar panels?

The tory Govt removed subsidies.

Environmentalist said this would be a disaster.

All that happened was that the con artists getting fat of subsidies left the industry leaving the good firms behind.

Solar efficiency is up and yet the costs have fallen.
More people are installing solar now than before.

Sometimes Govt intervention is not a good thing.
82
03/02/2021 11:25:58 9 0
bbc
Older solar panels wee a con, would never have paid for themselves, so the scheme was nonsense and needed stopping. As technology improves, perhaps it should be reintroduced.
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03/02/2021 13:38:16 0 0
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With a market cornered by the chinese who production involves much pollution. Its cost billions (which each of us have to pay a share of) to protect the Grid from variable green electricity production. No douby supported by the same people who scream about fuel poverty.
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03/02/2021 10:35:41 32 3
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The government always says the right thing, says we are going to do this and that and it will be fantastic but when it comes to action they do very little. Government is just a game to them they don't care as long as they stay in government.
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03/02/2021 11:27:36 16 4
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Same with all parties. No integrity.
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03/02/2021 11:12:52 22 12
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Any political party that claims to care about the natural environment in the UK is a bare faced liar.
You can't protect it while allowing the equivalent of a new Newcastle thru the door every yr
Lab & Lib say they'd extend FoM to most of the world, even Greens want every migrant to have the right to bring their whole family

Want a natural environment?
Find a way to run things with fewer people
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03/02/2021 11:30:31 7 18
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We did. We voted for Brexit! Already it is estimated that 1.3 million EU workers have returned home. I know we are about to receive a small influx from Hong Kong, but that will be a one off, and less overall than the huge annual increases we have seen over the last decade or so.
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03/02/2021 12:49:04 11 1
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Absolute nonsense. All that is, is a population transfer, it doesn't help or solve the problem in any way. Caring about the environment goes beyond the UKs borders whether you like it or not.

Also Brexit so far has done little to reduce Non-EU immigration, meaning voting for it has had no impact in changing what you wanted.
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03/02/2021 12:56:37 3 1
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|And we had to relax the rules almost immediately because we needed people from abroad to work on farms. UK birth rate is approx 18% ahead of deaths, so irrespective of immigration we need to have fewer children.
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03/02/2021 11:28:24 5 17
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Because there are too many large 3 and 4 bedroom homes only inhabited by 1 or 2 people.
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03/02/2021 11:32:15 14 1
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That is partially because of a lack of homes that those householders would like to move into - which are generally two bedroom bungalows with a bit of garden. So they stay rattling about in the big family home.
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03/02/2021 11:08:44 3 3
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Almost all activists refer to the actual science around climate change.

Climate Change Deniers never refer to any verifiable science.
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03/02/2021 11:33:45 2 5
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Here's one off the top of my head .... Arctic sea ice extent last year was the same as 1940, but atmospheric CO2 levels were 100ppm greater. I thought you said CO2 levels drove climate. They obviously don't.
And when you call people "deniers" you are following a religion. A crank religion.
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03/02/2021 11:55:59 1 3
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Or in the year that the met Office said snow in winter would become a thing of yhe past we are having more snow events than any time since the sixties.
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03/02/2021 12:12:20 3 1
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I think the top of your head must be fully off. CO2 levels in 1940 were about 280ppm and Arctic sea ice is lower now than in the past 500 years (at least).
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03/02/2021 11:34:30 5 3
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Gov is good on green aspiration but not recognising the cost required; putting the environment first until it requires some sacrifice e.g sugar crop under threat - OK kill the bees. Need cheaper fuel for steel - OK let's open a new coal mine in Cumbria.
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03/02/2021 11:20:13 15 17
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We voted to reduce the number of cash in hand car washers! And you sound rather racist, favouring white EU workers over varied international ones. I would rather be able to choose workers from around the globe than be stuck with them from just one area.
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03/02/2021 11:35:57 12 10
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Way to make assumptions, you called me racist when I made no comment about colour whatsoever, if anything i was commenting on how deprivation influences birth rates.

Personally I am v pro immigration and think we are stronger for having a multi-cultural society. I was just pointing out how reality goes against what a number of racist people voted for.
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03/02/2021 15:21:16 1 2
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"we're stronger for having a multi-cultural society"

Brain washed

No one truly wants a multicultural society, they just think they do
Look at extremes of cultures, not just around the world, but immigrant communities in developed nations
What people want is a watered down version of multiculturalism without the extremes
No one wants to live next door to a fundamentalist of whatever culture
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03/02/2021 11:10:01 7 3
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Except Global warming is in fact, real.
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03/02/2021 11:36:10 2 3
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It is real. So is global cooling. They alternate in a cyclical fashion. Nothing to do with CO2 though.
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03/02/2021 14:19:02 1 1
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Except whilst in "Normal" conditions you would in fact be right, the increase in CO2 is drastically effecting this, we are seeing abnormal levels of heating. We know we are no where near the point in the cycle where this should happen based of Geology
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03/02/2021 11:36:36 3 6
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Not just 'painfully slow' to do the right thing, under Tory-rule developed by both right and left since WWII ('gradualist' Labour like LibDems merely Tory-Lite) we allow Money to dictate the ruin of people and planet. Incomes unequal we tolerate the prion-disease made of what should be our wonderful currency-of-exchange, depriving ourselves - and our poor children - of natural VITAL conscience.
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03/02/2021 11:40:10 6 2
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Word salad! What on earth are you on about? Sounds like Q -Anon stuff!!

The environment is a serious issue, do some research!
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03/02/2021 11:49:05 2 0
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I suggest you look at the environmental damage in countries which have a history of left wing government.

Most have a much worse record than the UK.
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03/02/2021 12:08:59 3 0
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One last try then A 4 A, could you please translate this into something more people may understand?
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03/02/2021 11:19:42 4 9
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If you go back to yesterday’s topics one of the main things stopping exports of sea food to the EU was the lack of clean sea water to wash it in.
This is due to the Tory spin words of ‘cutting red tape’. It means the salmon farms can pollute the estuaries plus sewage and chemical run off into the rivers goes unchecked.
Yet they can turn the blame on someone else and nobody thinks any different.
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03/02/2021 11:35:28 6 0
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Your hatred for 'Tories' means you see them everywhere, responsible for everything.
Vast majority of salmon farms are in Scotland, where their position etc is entirely governed by Scottish Govt, ie SNP.

You need both eyes open and the ability to criticise all / any in order to improve the environment for all.
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03/02/2021 11:20:42 3 8
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Labour are the worst.
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03/02/2021 11:38:14 6 0
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The only way to help the environment is to make and enforce regulations. Not to remove them, or not police them in the interest of profit. Self regulation has failed in all areas.
However the really basic thing is to regulate population growth. No matter what you regulate or subsidise extra people take up room, use stuff and move about. Can’t be helped. Masses of people to work, just no training.
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03/02/2021 11:42:55 4 6
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Exactly. Which is why FoM is such a bad idea, makes it very hard for countries to regulate their populations! Some were losing the cream of their young people, others were becoming inundated, particularly the UK. Hard to make any environmental plans when the population is expanding so rapidly!
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03/02/2021 11:36:36 3 6
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Not just 'painfully slow' to do the right thing, under Tory-rule developed by both right and left since WWII ('gradualist' Labour like LibDems merely Tory-Lite) we allow Money to dictate the ruin of people and planet. Incomes unequal we tolerate the prion-disease made of what should be our wonderful currency-of-exchange, depriving ourselves - and our poor children - of natural VITAL conscience.
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03/02/2021 11:40:10 6 2
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Word salad! What on earth are you on about? Sounds like Q -Anon stuff!!

The environment is a serious issue, do some research!
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03/02/2021 10:57:12 46 6
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So long as people in the UK think a 4x4 is "necessary" to drive one child a km to school then I don't think there's much hope for us.

We could all do better, but, really, can enough of us be bothered? Not to say those who try should stop trying - just don't expect things to get better at a national level.
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03/02/2021 11:46:46 28 7
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How about a super tax on 4x4s? Farmers and others who actually require them could be exempt, similar to the reduction in tax on red diesel. Too many government fingers in rich pies, I suspect.
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03/02/2021 17:16:53 0 0
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Taxes already being introduced to discourage the more polluting cars :-

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables
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03/02/2021 11:17:05 3 9
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The problem is the 'environment' has been hijacked by misguided climate alarmists - which has resulted in the neglect of existential environmental issues such as pollution, habitat loss, over-fishing and natural resource squandering.

The negative impact of CO2 on the climate is unproven but burning fossil fuels can be clearly seen to be polluting and wastes a limited natural resource.
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03/02/2021 11:47:18 2 5
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CO2 is good for the environment and plants love it - An entire year of global lockdowns of some forms hasn’t even budged the atmospheric levels 1 ppm off their natural cycles - So YES to good environmental management and NO to an irrational obsession of CO2
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03/02/2021 14:08:53 1 0
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Suggest you read the science. I'd recommend. 'Atmospheric CO2: Principal Control Knob Governing Earth's Temperature' (Lacis, Schmidt, Ruedy & Rind).
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03/02/2021 11:36:36 3 6
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Not just 'painfully slow' to do the right thing, under Tory-rule developed by both right and left since WWII ('gradualist' Labour like LibDems merely Tory-Lite) we allow Money to dictate the ruin of people and planet. Incomes unequal we tolerate the prion-disease made of what should be our wonderful currency-of-exchange, depriving ourselves - and our poor children - of natural VITAL conscience.
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03/02/2021 11:49:05 2 0
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I suggest you look at the environmental damage in countries which have a history of left wing government.

Most have a much worse record than the UK.
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03/02/2021 11:51:07 2 0
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Chernobyl for instance
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03/02/2021 12:35:13 2 0
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He could read up on the Aral Sea or could be puddles now
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03/02/2021 11:38:14 6 0
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The only way to help the environment is to make and enforce regulations. Not to remove them, or not police them in the interest of profit. Self regulation has failed in all areas.
However the really basic thing is to regulate population growth. No matter what you regulate or subsidise extra people take up room, use stuff and move about. Can’t be helped. Masses of people to work, just no training.
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03/02/2021 11:42:55 4 6
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Exactly. Which is why FoM is such a bad idea, makes it very hard for countries to regulate their populations! Some were losing the cream of their young people, others were becoming inundated, particularly the UK. Hard to make any environmental plans when the population is expanding so rapidly!
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03/02/2021 11:43:11 5 0
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Since November 2020, contaminated sludge has been dumped at a rate of around 500 tons/week in the shellfishing area of Lyme Bay. I and many other objectors wrote to the MMO in 2019 objecting to the proposal to do this. Nevertheless, the licence to dump was issued in August 2020. I sent in a stage 2 objection in Jan 2021, told the DIT, told Defra, told NE, and have been dismissed at every turn
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03/02/2021 11:50:50 3 1
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The biggest achievement the UK can make is not so much what we can do here in our own land, but the pressure, influence and sanctions we can place on countries like Brazil and China.
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03/02/2021 11:52:36 5 0
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No. We can lead by example.
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03/02/2021 13:34:18 0 1
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Brazil which is cutting down its rainforests to grow soya for the vegans and vegetarians of the world who are saving the world by giving up meat.
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03/02/2021 11:51:39 4 2
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We will be failed by Governments into the what remains of a future that resembles the present because just like their reaction to Covid they fail to perceive the level of danger and will avoid doing the unpopular thing e.g. closing down tourism travel. Which Party would dare to suggest and incentivise having less children? eating less meat? less motorised travel? - none - lose too many votes.