EU shellfish import ban permanent, UK fishing industry told
02/02/2021 | news | politics | 1,361
The government promises to push Brussels to change its transport rules on scallops, clams and mussels.
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02/02/2021 15:25:02 399 152
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Well it never mentioned that on the big red bus of lies.

Taking back control, destroying your business, lying to your face.
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02/02/2021 15:28:05 92 117
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How people can down rate this is beyond words,they must be so thixk dfail readers,living with their lies
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02/02/2021 15:29:23 20 40
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ah here they come, dont tell me remainer lefty yes?
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02/02/2021 15:41:40 22 8
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They may be unforgivable and shameless lies designed by exploit the stupid, but they are homegrown sovereign British lies, not your inferior burgundy passport holding EU lies.
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02/02/2021 15:44:56 7 11
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HYS on EU issues is largely the educated v the unconscious ignorants. The manipulating elites have moved on.
Removed
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02/02/2021 15:56:57 2 2
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What was printed on the big red bus, was a ‘suggestion’, not a promise. It seemed that not many people can tell the difference.
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02/02/2021 16:07:04 1 2
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You can't seem to get over your bus. Glad we're out of the EU and their vicious "One Europe" project. Long live the nation state!
02/02/2021 16:16:52 0 0
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EU army?
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BFM
02/02/2021 15:25:14 18 22
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Its a rich white countries protectionist bloc. Its what they do.
What the hell has race got to do with it you cretin? Removed
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02/02/2021 16:02:22 0 0
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Which protects its many small poorer member states.
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02/02/2021 15:25:32 145 22
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Who signed us up to these rules and red tape?
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02/02/2021 15:33:23 258 43
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@"Who signed us up to these rules and red tape?"
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The brexiteers.

They knew what they were voting for, as they never shy away from reminding us.

So they can't shift the blame on anyone else.

These are what the EU rules have always been for non-EU countries. The brexiteers decided this is what they wanted.
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02/02/2021 16:02:17 9 1
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Boris Johnson signed us up to it. It's another toxic part to his undercooked oven ready meal.
02/02/2021 16:09:57 0 0
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Me
02/02/2021 16:12:25 0 0
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The people who voted leave, it's not as if the weren't warned and warned again.
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02/02/2021 15:25:32 40 1
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1-0 to the shellfish :-)
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02/02/2021 15:25:57 9 13
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oh no an hys on the eu
8000 comments due fro usual suspects
we may get cheaper seafood
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02/02/2021 15:27:12 19 2
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Again in English please?
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02/02/2021 15:31:21 4 0
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It'll be cheap in £. You may wish you've paid a bit more for treated shellfish 8 hours after you eat it....
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02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
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I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
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02/02/2021 15:28:42 235 23
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That's third-country status for you
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02/02/2021 15:28:52 66 10
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Different rules now we are outside the EU. We are no longer a signatory to their standards, so we are treated like every other country. Isn't sovereignty wonderful....so many benefits, and we were sovereign anyway.
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02/02/2021 15:30:31 26 3
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They were treated in purification tanks elsewhere in the EU prior to being sold.

I wouldn't eat untreated British shellfish. There's warnings on the shore of Loch Fyne telling you not too. They're contaminated with a million viruses that cause spectacular D+V
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02/02/2021 15:31:47 65 5
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Those are the rules for 3rd countries. Birtain chose to be a third country, Britain chose to switch to those rules

Apparently voters knew what they were voting for, so you cannot blame anyone else except the brexit voters.
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02/02/2021 15:33:36 33 2
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It's because we're a third country,out of the EU,hence were treated like any other country
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02/02/2021 15:34:14 43 1
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It's almost as if we are not part of the EU any longer and we can't benefit from our membership!
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02/02/2021 15:30:05 10 25
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and the eu want some of vaccine , boris time to play their silly games , and yes im not stopping because you started it.
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02/02/2021 15:34:22 20 15
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Do you imagine for one minute they are going to make it easy for us to carry on trading ?????????????????? The TORIES have destroyed our exports !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02/02/2021 15:39:46 3 1
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Just another benefit of "sovereignty".
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02/02/2021 15:46:46 11 1
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Its very simple; "Free movement of goods and services" within the EU is a founding principal, you have to pay your subs and stay in the club to enjoy all the benefits of that status. You leave, so you lose the all privileges that went with membership. It's completely naive to think you could do otherwise....
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02/02/2021 15:47:18 11 1
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It's not because 'we, specifically the UK' the UK are outside. The rule applies to 'Everyone' who is outside. The EU imports fish from around the world and will not risk health by allowing products from outside its control without checks. Whether it comes from the UK or worldwide. If it comes from outside the EU then it needs to be certified clean. As of last month, the UK is outside the EU.
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02/02/2021 15:52:54 2 0
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Was this not a benefit of being in the EU?
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02/02/2021 15:54:59 1 0
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The clue is in the article, "Until this year, they could be purified - with contaminants removed in clean seawater tanks - after they reached their destination."
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02/02/2021 16:00:43 1 0
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The rules have changed for us now we're outsiders and no longer part of their club. Same principle applies to any kind of club membership. You pay your dues, you're in, you stop paying your dues you're out and will be treated differently.
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02/02/2021 15:56:36 0 0
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it's simple enough - when in the Single Market, our produce went to France, say, on the same basis as France's own catch. Nowadays it enters the market from outside, and is subject to import controls. Inevitably more difficult. And obvious since long before the referendum. Applies to ALL our EU exports.
02/02/2021 16:07:57 0 0
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We wanted to be outside the EU. This comes with it
02/02/2021 16:17:14 0 0
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Who cares? The EU is dying on its feet, just look at the vaccines fiasco. The EU won't have any teeth left to eat shellfish in a couple of years.
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02/02/2021 15:27:00 209 10
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That is so shellfish.
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02/02/2021 15:32:50 98 6
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We mustn't get too crabby.
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02/02/2021 15:35:05 7 0
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theweeboab, you win the internet today
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DJG
02/02/2021 15:36:04 11 1
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The world is our oyster (except the EU).
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02/02/2021 15:34:10 9 5
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Hehe, a lot less trawlers from the EU should help clean the waters.
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02/02/2021 15:40:53 12 0
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We're all just prawns in this game.
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02/02/2021 15:41:05 6 2
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There's something very fishy going on.....
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02/02/2021 15:41:51 3 3
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Citizens ignored for the sake of EU idealism is very much shellfish indeed
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02/02/2021 15:47:34 3 1
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The world is our lobster now....
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02/02/2021 15:49:00 4 1
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Come on folks...stop baiting him..
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02/02/2021 15:50:48 3 0
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Did they think the EU would whelkome their catch with open arms!
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02/02/2021 15:51:49 2 0
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We need to stop flounder ing about.
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02/02/2021 15:48:15 1 0
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The EU is no plaice for us
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02/02/2021 15:49:44 2 0
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Typical of those in Mussels
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02/02/2021 16:00:23 2 0
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We should just say "scallops to the lot of you!"
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02/02/2021 16:07:03 1 0
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They've done it just for the halibut.
02/02/2021 16:05:50 1 0
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The EU is a load of pollacks!
02/02/2021 16:08:31 0 0
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Suppose we’ll have to dance to their tuna
02/02/2021 16:11:42 0 0
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There is no a-fish-in-the-sea (efficiency) in this!
02/02/2021 16:17:03 0 0
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Enough of the puns, for cod's hake!
02/02/2021 16:18:50 0 0
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Finally a plaice with something worth reading about Brexit.
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02/02/2021 15:27:03 75 7
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Long live the British shellfish, living their lives in pollution safe from fisherman
02/02/2021 16:07:52 6 1
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Glad someone else sees this as a good news story. All our waters are overfished. Scallop dredging in particular devastates the sea bed. If this helps stop it I'm all in favour. A very good unforeseen consequence for a change.
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02/02/2021 15:25:57 9 13
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oh no an hys on the eu
8000 comments due fro usual suspects
we may get cheaper seafood
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02/02/2021 15:27:12 19 2
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Again in English please?
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02/02/2021 15:28:51 1 2
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oh no an hys on the eu
8000 comments due from usual suspects
We may get cheaper seafood though
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02/02/2021 15:27:14 40 17
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Project fear= project reality.

Good job this deal was done and everyone who championed this whole thing needs their heads examined.
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02/02/2021 15:27:25 49 42
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Not a fan of this brexit but this is clearly the EU spitting their dummy out.
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02/02/2021 15:29:33 39 6
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Off course not were a third country now,hence the rules old boy,as tories say the law is the law
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02/02/2021 15:31:36 13 1
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Not at all. it is a consequence of no longer being signatory to their standards. We are now, at Boris' insistence, a third country. We can't have it all ways. And thanks to stupidity all we have is more paperwork, worse trading conditions and a blue passport.
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02/02/2021 15:33:40 15 0
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This is the EU treating Britain the way it voted to be treated.
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02/02/2021 15:36:54 15 1
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@"Not a fan of this brexit but this is clearly the EU spitting their dummy out."
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What!?

The EU aren't spitting any dummy out. These are what the EU rules have always been for so-called 3rd-countries.

Britain chose to become a 3rd country, so *Britain* chose to go by these rules.

The EU isn't spitting any dummy out! They just aren't changing their 3rd country rules to suit the brextieers
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02/02/2021 15:42:28 6 0
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The rules for 3rd nations were set whilst the UK were members of the common market, and as such, are rules we supported.

Hoisted by our own petard.
02/02/2021 16:13:33 1 0
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The job of the EU leadership is to protect the interests of the Union members, by doing things like this.
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02/02/2021 15:27:58 30 26
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As a vegetarian, I'd say 'good', but since there are a lot of people who enjoy flesh eating, I'd say there is now more for Britain. The EU will have to find alternative sources of supply & by the time they come back, cap in hand, the British fisheries industry will have moved on. This is petty spite by the EU, since nothing as actually changed except Britain chose to no longer be controlled.
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02/02/2021 15:30:34 0 9
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Mussels are vegetables.
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02/02/2021 15:32:57 6 0
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Britain chose to be treated like a third country, like Albania, Self inflicted.
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02/02/2021 15:40:46 2 0
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When treated & purified then, I am sure there are loads other countries ready to sell stuff to EU, and we shall always be in the queue. EU only goes with a cap in hand if there are no other suppliers, even though I wish they do come with cap in hand but reality is it's highly unlikely.
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02/02/2021 15:44:19 0 0
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Or the British fisheries industry will have downsized....
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02/02/2021 15:27:59 3 2
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What a load of molluscs!
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02/02/2021 15:25:02 399 152
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Well it never mentioned that on the big red bus of lies.

Taking back control, destroying your business, lying to your face.
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02/02/2021 15:28:05 92 117
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How people can down rate this is beyond words,they must be so thixk dfail readers,living with their lies
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02/02/2021 15:30:02 15 10
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You get used to it. Sense in the face of madness.
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02/02/2021 15:42:00 25 38
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Because it's not destroying business
It's a wonderful opportunity for us to invest in more of our own purification plants, creating jobs, finding solutions
Particularly as we're increasing our catch.
Of course remoaners would never have such a positive thought in their heads
All doom & gloom
Remoaners are pessimists
Leavers far more optimistic
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02/02/2021 15:55:37 1 1
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eh?
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02/02/2021 15:57:12 3 7
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The reaction to Brexit is what I call stupid. It was clear there would be initial disruption and issues for businesses but this is due to change and will be short term. The idea that the UK economy will fall on its backside is ridiculous. The UK has been propping up the EU for years, financially and politically. The EU has a huge trade surplus with the UK - they love UK money.
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mc
02/02/2021 15:57:50 1 2
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Mainly because we are not all woke idiots who wish to surrender our country for cheap holidays like you
02/02/2021 16:14:12 0 0
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O.K quick lesson on Boris' Bus:

A cheap political slogan was taken as a literal legally binding document by seething remainers, chief amongst which was a chap call Marcus Ball who claimed he would take Boris to court to prove he is a liar and to bring justice. The problem with this approach was the word 'send' is very ambiguous. The judge ruled the claim as 'vexatious', look it up.
02/02/2021 16:15:54 0 1
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Because non of it would have mattered if the remain claim of WW3 had happened.

Both sides lied stop presenting it as just leave.

Remember "no" EU army, talking about it now.

Worse, no mention of the EU borrowing huge amounts of money creating a federal Europe
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02/02/2021 15:28:06 94 23
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" ItS aLl JuSt PrOjEcT fEaR "
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02/02/2021 15:36:34 20 8
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Fish for vaccines
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02/02/2021 15:42:33 1 7
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I forgot, when did the housing market collapse? When did WWIII start? What happened to the emergency budget and how did the stock market not collapse as it was meant to?

All those predictions of doom and.. oh, we need to purify our shellfish before selling them to the EU. How terrible. Build some purification facilities! More jobs moved from the EU to the UK, sounds good to me.
02/02/2021 16:07:39 0 0
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"bAcK Of THe QuEUe" hypocrite.
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02/02/2021 15:28:07 29 2
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Smile as if you didn’t already know things like this would happen?
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02/02/2021 15:28:15 102 9
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Surely the obvious thing for the UK to do is to improve its water quality. Better for the fish, the environment in general and us. And should we be eating food that needs to be purified?
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02/02/2021 15:30:09 117 181
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Nothing about improving the water quality. This is EU petty point scoring at it's finest. The shell fish and molluscs were fine to eat 5 weeks ago. Not now. Fine we will take our world leading products to other markets.
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02/02/2021 15:40:31 16 0
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All shellfish needs purification unless you're willing to accept the risk of some very interesting bacilli.
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02/02/2021 15:58:27 0 0
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Read my mind!!
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02/02/2021 15:28:25 25 34
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"the industry says it does not have enough tanks ready "

Once again a temporary issue which can be readily resolved given a bit of time. Seized on by die hard Remainers as an example of our impending doom.

Every problem has a solution and every problem presents an opportunity.
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02/02/2021 15:29:30 21 4
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"Every problem has a solution and every problem presents an opportunity."

That truly is unicorn thinking.
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02/02/2021 15:31:32 3 0
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We left the EU and this is one of the consequences nobody thought about.
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02/02/2021 15:34:52 2 0
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If it were that easily solvable, why has it not been done yet? We've had nearly five years.
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02/02/2021 15:37:06 2 0
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Where was the warning? Business could have planned for it, however any realistic picture of the new arrangements was shouted down as Project Fear. Well here is the reality of it. Businesses are going bust, all because credulous people believed liars.
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02/02/2021 15:38:57 0 0
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So many temporary issues...no temporary benefits. Suspect quite a few long lasting issues and yet to be convinced of any long term benefits. Swapping to Pacific trading bloc just seems non sensical.
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02/02/2021 15:41:23 0 0
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Probably the additional cost of the tanks, the double handling and time factor will all make our UK produce less economically viable against EU produce.
Cockles and Mussel from the River Exe were sent by train before WWII. The requirement for cleaning them first destroyed the trade.

Sadly this will be just another example of the UK becoming less competitive against the EU.
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02/02/2021 15:48:44 0 0
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Tanks made anywhere you know? Stacked up ready for avid buyers ?
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02/02/2021 15:26:53 138 38
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Turkeys voting for Christmas...
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02/02/2021 15:45:48 99 18
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So, correct me if i am wrong.

We sold the rights to the UK waters when we were part of the EU, and then later claimed that the EU were stealing all our fish.

We then left the EU under the guise that the EU were raiding our waters, and now we can't sell the fish.

So indeed, turkey voting for Christmas.
02/02/2021 16:15:59 0 0
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No, the turkeys voted to have a vote, and to run the farm.
02/02/2021 16:18:48 0 0
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Do those Turkeys come from this country ?
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02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
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I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
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02/02/2021 15:28:42 235 23
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That's third-country status for you
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02/02/2021 16:00:54 3 0
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They didn't change the rules. We left the EU. This is one of the consequences of it.
02/02/2021 16:18:15 0 0
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Almost, let me help you : Thats third world country status for you.
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02/02/2021 15:28:45 476 78
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What?! It’s almost like we’re no longer a part of the EU and as such we have to abide by their import/export rules as a separate entity?! Shocker!
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02/02/2021 15:34:57 155 33
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lol - who would of thought it?
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02/02/2021 15:39:12 40 4
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The difference between being in the single market vs "having access" to the single market
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02/02/2021 15:45:44 44 16
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With all of the lies and disinformation, Brexit was a sham right from the outset. None of this should be a surprise to anyone but I expect it will be to some.
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02/02/2021 15:46:56 27 9
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But our "Cakeist" PM said this wouldn't be the case, and he's as honest as the day is long, so we all naturally believed him.
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02/02/2021 15:50:29 23 8
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Brexiters either say the EU isn't being fair or it's a minor issue - then shove their heads back into the sand
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02/02/2021 15:52:50 6 5
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I know, it's great.
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02/02/2021 15:54:52 22 36
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Surely this kind of heavy handed bureaucracy and vindictive behaviour is a large part of the reason people voted to leave.
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02/02/2021 15:54:55 37 9
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Yeah, but can you feel all of that SOVEREIGNTY and CONTROL? I smell it in the air! Or is that just the rotten fish?
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02/02/2021 15:56:50 17 5
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Exactly! Brexiters endlessly lectured the rest of us about the benefits of ‘taking back control’ which is exactly what the EU is doing. I also seem to recall Brexiters saying something about Brexit opening up new markets worldwide. That should benefit British shellfish producers, shouldn’t it?!
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02/02/2021 15:57:03 12 5
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Sure hope we can still export clowns to the EU; we have an excess of them in government.
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02/02/2021 15:55:45 1 1
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True colours come out on the end
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02/02/2021 16:04:11 1 3
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Not problem. Put them on sale here and I will buy more than my fair share.
02/02/2021 16:12:07 2 2
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We do abide by their rules. Unlike other members. But we left. so they've declared economic war. My mum said, if you don't stand up to the bully, you'll always be a loser.
02/02/2021 16:16:29 1 0
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I think you’ll we could export them before this is a rule change now so membership of the EU is irrelevant
02/02/2021 16:19:40 0 0
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It's a two way street. In 2019 the UK imported £21bn worth of vehicles from Germany. Let's stop importing those and see what happens. I have survived this long without a BMW, Porsche or Mercedes.
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02/02/2021 15:27:12 19 2
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Again in English please?
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02/02/2021 15:28:51 1 2
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oh no an hys on the eu
8000 comments due from usual suspects
We may get cheaper seafood though
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02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
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I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
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02/02/2021 15:28:52 66 10
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Different rules now we are outside the EU. We are no longer a signatory to their standards, so we are treated like every other country. Isn't sovereignty wonderful....so many benefits, and we were sovereign anyway.
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02/02/2021 15:37:21 12 33
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"We were sovereign anyway"

Only in the sense that we could choose to do what we wanted but if we make that choice we can't be in the club
In the club you have to give up a considerable element of sovereignty
Remoaners keep saying we had sovereignty, we didn't as members
The simple example of the FACT EU set minimum VAT rates & they held that power because they take a % of all member nations VAT
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02/02/2021 15:34:58 3 1
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About as Sovereign Belgium and Ireland were last week.
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02/02/2021 15:29:12 462 163
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This is what Brexit is about. Not blue passports, not 'getting our sovereignty back', not £350 million a week to the NHS.

Those were lies.

This is the truth.
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02/02/2021 15:33:27 78 43
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I can confirm this. The new passports are so dark blue they look black. Just like the pre-EU ones. Oh the humanity.
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02/02/2021 15:35:53 25 5
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I wonder what proportion of UK fishermen/women voted for this?
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02/02/2021 15:36:33 16 61
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Erm. The NHS has already had much more than £350m/week added to its budget since 2016. Multiples of that.

Brexit is about many things, but one of them is free trade. It's a shame the EU don't want that.
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02/02/2021 15:38:59 11 55
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Boring remainer humdrum
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02/02/2021 15:40:30 10 55
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This is what the EU Junta is all about, they detest democracy.
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02/02/2021 15:42:21 45 11
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Totally agree. This was what used to happen prior to us joining the EEC and this was one of the major factors that lead us to join. But you couldn't tell Brexiters this, they knew best, they believed the lies. Sadly, the reality sucks and they will find that we will all be poorer (except the few super rich who are able to offshore their wealth thanks to Brexit).
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02/02/2021 15:42:36 11 48
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"This is what Brexit is about"

Nope, this is what the bitter EU is about.
- their nastiness clear for all to see
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02/02/2021 15:43:08 10 38
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Honestly, is this all you remoaners have? Complaining about a bit of a hold-up in the exports of a minor industry. Read it! Once they have the purification tanks ready, the exports can continue. However, yes, you were all sooooo right. But, we're here now so, like a mollusc, suck it up.
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02/02/2021 15:43:58 7 17
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reply to Polly81222 And closing borders to life saving vaccines , its a very nasty Empirical set up or have you been asleep this weekend. The shell fish is just another example
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02/02/2021 15:45:28 9 4
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The new UK passports are black and they are made in France.
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02/02/2021 15:42:14 6 11
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Your beloved EU threatened the peace of Ireland in one swoop last weekend. Your arguments have no credibility.
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02/02/2021 15:47:18 6 13
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if by 'what Brexit is about' is exposing just how protectionist and petty minded the EU can be, then yes. First Article 16 last week without even consulting the Irish and now getting their own back on the UK for daring to suggest the UK waters belong to the UK.
we'd better build some washing facilities. Then they will have some other excuse.
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02/02/2021 15:51:12 3 4
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The UK paid the EU £15.5bn in 2018 . The UK received £4.5bn in EU funding, so net cost £11bn (see ONS) = £200m/week. Free tade is a mutually beneficial agreement, so membership of a common market does not incur such cost. That money went on running the huge EU institutios, paying many salarues and subsidising the majority of EU member states who receive more EU funding that they put in.
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mc
02/02/2021 15:56:50 1 1
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Understand Appeasement do you Polly? Or, should I spell it for you...
02/02/2021 16:09:11 2 0
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Sorry no, it was about getting out of what was\is becoming United State s of Europe and with the UK being an unwanted state if we had stayed in.
What our parents signed up for and I am sure even the most ardent leaver will agree was an area of "free" trade or trade with reduced bureaucracy.
02/02/2021 16:13:01 0 0
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Blue passports aren't a lie....
02/02/2021 16:15:47 0 0
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Just like the EU vaccines!
02/02/2021 16:16:37 0 0
bbc
I expect you're pleased then?
02/02/2021 16:19:44 0 0
bbc
My word you have no brain
1
02/02/2021 15:25:02 399 152
bbc
Well it never mentioned that on the big red bus of lies.

Taking back control, destroying your business, lying to your face.
25
02/02/2021 15:29:23 20 40
bbc
ah here they come, dont tell me remainer lefty yes?
122
02/02/2021 15:35:03 37 20
bbc
Remainer, lefty and correct if you don't mind.
179
02/02/2021 15:37:15 30 13
bbc
I'm a remainer righty - mostly care about the economy so obvious really
790
02/02/2021 16:01:05 4 1
bbc
So, thinking about fish... has control been taken back? Have businesses not been destroyed? No lies? Live in the real world and abandon the brexit sunny uplands delusion.
02/02/2021 16:08:31 2 1
bbc
I guess you see this as an acceptable price for whatever you are getting from Brexit. Perhaps you can tell the people whose jobs have been ruined what these are so they can feel better about it.
18
02/02/2021 15:28:25 25 34
bbc
"the industry says it does not have enough tanks ready "

Once again a temporary issue which can be readily resolved given a bit of time. Seized on by die hard Remainers as an example of our impending doom.

Every problem has a solution and every problem presents an opportunity.
26
02/02/2021 15:29:30 21 4
bbc
"Every problem has a solution and every problem presents an opportunity."

That truly is unicorn thinking.
11
02/02/2021 15:27:25 49 42
bbc
Not a fan of this brexit but this is clearly the EU spitting their dummy out.
27
02/02/2021 15:29:33 39 6
bbc
Off course not were a third country now,hence the rules old boy,as tories say the law is the law
02/02/2021 16:10:53 0 0
bbc
Unless your name is Boris Johnson. Then he passes laws allowing laws to be broken.
14
02/02/2021 15:28:05 92 117
bbc
How people can down rate this is beyond words,they must be so thixk dfail readers,living with their lies
28
02/02/2021 15:30:02 15 10
bbc
You get used to it. Sense in the face of madness.
17
02/02/2021 15:28:15 102 9
bbc
Surely the obvious thing for the UK to do is to improve its water quality. Better for the fish, the environment in general and us. And should we be eating food that needs to be purified?
29
02/02/2021 15:30:09 117 181
bbc
Nothing about improving the water quality. This is EU petty point scoring at it's finest. The shell fish and molluscs were fine to eat 5 weeks ago. Not now. Fine we will take our world leading products to other markets.
78
02/02/2021 15:33:27 28 2
bbc
Yes, they're queuing up for our fresh seafood in the Far East !
126
02/02/2021 15:35:09 36 1
bbc
You're not in this business are you?!
143
02/02/2021 15:36:00 45 2
bbc
I thought you all knew what you were voting for? You were told constantly that there would be punishing rules that we would be subject to once we left the EU. These aren't new rules - they apply to any third country. We are a third country. Get used to it.
178
02/02/2021 15:37:12 16 5
bbc
They could always sell them to the CPTPP as soon as we join but they'd better be quick. As soon as we join, the Little Englanders will be demanding a referendum to leave that too.
220
YWP
02/02/2021 15:38:50 2 1
bbc
I know nothing at all about the fishing industry.

Which other markets are there, that our fishing industry haven't already had the foresight to try?
224
02/02/2021 15:38:57 17 5
bbc
No this is what you owed for - to ensure treated like other third nations by the EU. Own it. The wishful thinking that other markets will magically appear, is just silly. We could have sold them there already if they existed.
337
02/02/2021 15:43:03 21 2
bbc
But many Remainers pointed out that once we were not in the EU we would have no say in things like this, and have to abide by their rules.
It is not Project Fear now is it?
367
02/02/2021 15:41:39 6 0
bbc
Like where exactly, given they are live products and can't travel too far ?
529
02/02/2021 15:45:46 5 0
bbc
They weren't fine to eat 5 weeks ago. They had to be sent to the EU to be processed to make them fine to eat.

If you don't like following the rules for 3rd countries then maybe a vote for staying in the Eu would have been a better idea.
546
02/02/2021 15:51:04 4 0
bbc
It is not the EU being petty it is that we are now viewed as a third country. So we no longer enjoy the benefits of being in the EU. So yes we will need to go to other markets. I just get fed up people blaming the EU for the rules that they have in place to protect the single market.
600
02/02/2021 15:53:16 3 0
bbc
5 wks ago the EU could be confident that the UK industry was following its rules. Now they don't have that guarantee, so of course they're being more careful. If you want to be in the club you've got to follow the rules. If you don't want to follow the rules (Brexiteers' mantra) then you can't expect to enjoy the benefits of membership. Can't have it both ways - that's just a sense of entitlement.
924
02/02/2021 16:05:31 0 0
bbc
"fish and molluscs were fine to eat 5 weeks ago" now we are not in the EU so 3rd party rules apply, but you knew that....
936
02/02/2021 16:05:50 0 0
bbc
If you're in the club then you're in it. If not, you're not. We;re just another third world country trying to export to our betters now. Thanks, Brexiteers!
980
02/02/2021 16:02:26 0 0
bbc
He comes from Kent. Probably reads the Daily Mail and Sun
987
02/02/2021 16:04:29 0 0
bbc
Not so. They were NOT fine to eat then, and aren't now. They used to be shipped unpurified, and then cleansed in, say, France. We could do that because we were part of the Single Market. Now we're not, and we can't, any more than, say, Bangladesh can. We already purify some here, for home consumption. But nowhere near the former export quantities.
02/02/2021 16:08:34 0 0
bbc
I agree with you, it’s pretty obvious what the EU are doing. All the issues could easily be resolved for the mutual benefit of both sides. It’s not as if it is just the U.K. side that suffers, the consumer in the EU gets less supplied, and will end up having to pay more for what is available
02/02/2021 16:17:05 0 0
bbc
Yeah take them to Russia and Putin who sponsored your Brexit.
02/02/2021 16:19:32 0 0
bbc
True, two can play at being silly B******s. Like when UK did; 45.Clause 44 is titled “Power to disapply or modify export declarations and other exit procedures”. Seemed to have rather upset the commissariat a wee bit... it'll happen.
02/02/2021 16:19:54 0 0
bbc
Where to?
30
02/02/2021 15:30:11 0 12
bbc
BREXIT is fundamentally a really good idea. That's how we are going to fund the deserved wage increase for our NHS staff. Just wait and see.
142
Rob
02/02/2021 15:36:00 1 1
bbc
Yes, as a doctor in the NHS I can't wait for my hospital to start receiving some of the £350 million a week "Brexit Bonus" promised by the Leave campaign...
31
02/02/2021 15:30:26 1 2
bbc
Land them in N Ireland and get around it.
437
02/02/2021 15:42:37 0 1
bbc
So you're expecting fishing boats from the east of the UK to sail around the country to land their catch? The extra cost of doing that already makes it a stupid idea, before we get onto the destruction of the fishing industry on the east of the country!
6
02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
bbc
I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
32
02/02/2021 15:30:31 26 3
bbc
They were treated in purification tanks elsewhere in the EU prior to being sold.

I wouldn't eat untreated British shellfish. There's warnings on the shore of Loch Fyne telling you not too. They're contaminated with a million viruses that cause spectacular D+V
33
02/02/2021 15:30:33 6 27
bbc
EXACTLY AS PREDICTED- THE DEAL IS COLLAPSING ALREADY!

WTO NOW!!

PROSPER UK!!

FREEDOM FROM EU DICTATORSHIP!!
91
02/02/2021 15:33:44 1 2
bbc
You want to make things worse?
12
02/02/2021 15:27:58 30 26
bbc
As a vegetarian, I'd say 'good', but since there are a lot of people who enjoy flesh eating, I'd say there is now more for Britain. The EU will have to find alternative sources of supply & by the time they come back, cap in hand, the British fisheries industry will have moved on. This is petty spite by the EU, since nothing as actually changed except Britain chose to no longer be controlled.
34
02/02/2021 15:30:34 0 9
bbc
Mussels are vegetables.
170
02/02/2021 15:36:54 2 1
bbc
Not sure about that, old man.
Brexiteers on the other hand... well...
190
02/02/2021 15:37:38 0 0
bbc
Eh?
35
02/02/2021 15:30:35 7 3
bbc
Yes but our shellfish are much happier now
36
02/02/2021 15:30:37 6 5
bbc
any deal on fish should have been reciprocal on equal landing rights

what idiot lets 75% of your fish get taken by the EU fishermen
and does not say you can only fish in our waters if our fisher man
can land their 25% of the under the same terms you do .

its now only a matter of Mouths before the whole trade deal comes crashing down .

90
02/02/2021 15:33:41 1 1
bbc
Are you seeing the truth yet? Maybe you should have listened to the 48.
37
02/02/2021 15:30:47 6 10
bbc
Presumably The EU was happy enough to accept our shellfish before Brexit. How are the shellfish now different just because we’re not members ?
67
02/02/2021 15:32:40 5 1
bbc
"The EU" was US!!!!!!!!! If you read the article it would tell you our shellfish were put in purification tanks elsewhere in the EU prior to sale.
74
02/02/2021 15:32:57 4 1
bbc
If you voted for Brexit this is precisely the sort of thing you should have thought about. The talk of sunny uplands was always nonsense. This is the future. Poorer trading conditions, delays, increased cost and for little if any benefit.
152
02/02/2021 15:33:25 3 1
bbc
Because we are not members and so are subject to their rules regarding third countries.
366
02/02/2021 15:40:42 1 1
bbc
We were a member state of the EU and were able to follow the rules of being a member state. We voted (well 52%) to be a 3rd country and now have to follow the rules as do all other 3rd countries.
38
02/02/2021 15:30:49 71 13
bbc
"The government promised to continue to "raise the issue" with the EU."

Well we know how far this government will get, don't we?
Nowhere.
255
02/02/2021 15:37:02 22 5
bbc
Maybe we should invoke article 16?
405
02/02/2021 15:45:17 1 1
bbc
And? You expect more? What’s to trade off?
39
wat
02/02/2021 15:30:50 6 22
bbc
Didn't take long for the pearl-clutching remainers to put in their two-penneth did it?
Clearly this is yet another example of petty behaviour from the EU. Sour grain-de-raisin from our "friends" across the water.
73
02/02/2021 15:32:57 6 1
bbc
The rules were agreed so it's hardly petty. We chose to leave so blame is with us.
85
02/02/2021 15:33:38 3 1
bbc
Just ignorance from people who didn't know/care what leaving meant.
93
Rob
02/02/2021 15:33:52 1 1
bbc
Hmmm... and there's me thinking that Brexit was supposed to result in LESS bureaucracy and red tape for UK fishermen, not more! Didn't work, did it?
100
02/02/2021 15:34:19 2 1
bbc
you missed off the t m8
115
02/02/2021 15:34:48 1 1
bbc
I think you missed the T from the beginning of your name
263
02/02/2021 15:39:56 1 1
bbc
Pearl clutching remainers? Gratuitous name calling from Brexit supporters can't disguise the disaster engulfing a plethora of small (and large) businesses. The 'petty EU' is treating us for what we are, a third country that voluntarily threw away all our advantages. Call those who oppose your world view what you like, we're reaping what you sowed.
391
02/02/2021 15:44:38 0 1
bbc
That’s just the start, a mere appetiser. Still we knew it would happen and we voted for it.
40
02/02/2021 15:30:56 16 7
bbc
Another example of the EU flexing their mussels...
97
02/02/2021 15:34:05 3 2
bbc
The mussels from Brussels :0)
41
02/02/2021 15:31:02 10 5
bbc
Bridiots
42
02/02/2021 15:31:06 185 44
bbc
The Brexit deal seems to be screwing over alot of sectors in the UK. Did the clown actually know what he was signing? ??
138
02/02/2021 15:35:52 54 39
bbc
First Percy pigs now oysters. I'm fuming about the problems caused by BREXIT. Next thing I won't be able to get my caviar.
227
02/02/2021 15:39:01 6 1
bbc
That would have meant reading it - and he doesn't do detail!
241
Y0U
02/02/2021 15:39:26 1 5
bbc
A lot of these regulations and tariffs would still apply even without the deal. That deal is the best of a bad situation.
252
02/02/2021 15:36:11 3 3
bbc
Shouldn't catch animals anyway..
332
02/02/2021 15:42:53 10 1
bbc
Whether he knew or not is irrelevant.

Bozo didn't care what he was signing the UK up to as long as he could ride the Brexit wave to Downing Street...
335
02/02/2021 15:43:00 1 1
bbc
Guess, he had minutes to read 2000 pages, and remember he went to Eton, so No.
476
02/02/2021 15:48:06 0 1
bbc
a lot
601
02/02/2021 15:53:28 0 3
bbc
And if the elected prime minister didn't follow through what the majority of the country voted for (regardless of which part voted for in or out)..what would that say about democracy????
727
02/02/2021 15:58:43 2 1
bbc
Before Brexit we had zero tariffs, zero quotas, zero restrictions on movement of goods and services.

I'm sure in a few years it will sort itself out but I don't understand how could any deal have been better than that?
734
02/02/2021 15:59:05 1 1
bbc
does he know anything that he signs? hard to know.
02/02/2021 16:16:32 0 1
bbc
Vaccines spring to mind
43
02/02/2021 15:31:11 34 8
bbc
One could say the EU are being rather "shellfish" about this situation
290
02/02/2021 15:41:09 20 6
bbc
About 7 people already did.
5
02/02/2021 15:25:57 9 13
bbc
oh no an hys on the eu
8000 comments due fro usual suspects
we may get cheaper seafood
44
02/02/2021 15:31:21 4 0
bbc
It'll be cheap in £. You may wish you've paid a bit more for treated shellfish 8 hours after you eat it....
45
02/02/2021 15:31:23 4 6
bbc
EU was fooled and humiliated in vaccines affair. They will be eager to make exceptions for UK.
308
02/02/2021 15:41:41 0 1
bbc
Er ... doubt it.
Normal folks yes, unaccountable unelected Brussels parliamentarians no.
46
02/02/2021 15:31:31 1 2
bbc
Freeze them.
272
02/02/2021 15:40:24 0 1
bbc
Or get a proper job?
18
02/02/2021 15:28:25 25 34
bbc
"the industry says it does not have enough tanks ready "

Once again a temporary issue which can be readily resolved given a bit of time. Seized on by die hard Remainers as an example of our impending doom.

Every problem has a solution and every problem presents an opportunity.
47
02/02/2021 15:31:32 3 0
bbc
We left the EU and this is one of the consequences nobody thought about.
48
02/02/2021 15:31:34 2 2
bbc
This the same Barrie Deas who only a couple of days ago insisted the UK will still too tightly connected to the 'Neo colonial' European Union when it comes to fishing?
11
02/02/2021 15:27:25 49 42
bbc
Not a fan of this brexit but this is clearly the EU spitting their dummy out.
49
02/02/2021 15:31:36 13 1
bbc
Not at all. it is a consequence of no longer being signatory to their standards. We are now, at Boris' insistence, a third country. We can't have it all ways. And thanks to stupidity all we have is more paperwork, worse trading conditions and a blue passport.
50
02/02/2021 15:31:38 9 20
bbc
What a loathsome Cartel, the events of the last week have demonstrated the wisdom of the British people to leave. Thank God !
188
02/02/2021 15:37:33 1 1
bbc
You chose to become a third country, and god had nothing to do with it.
271
02/02/2021 15:40:21 0 1
bbc
Wisdom??? What planet are you from??? Did you not read the article? British people are losing their livelihoods because of brexit!!!
297
02/02/2021 15:38:34 0 1
bbc
Yes how awful. Expecting a country that voted to be a 3rd country outside of the EU has to follow the rules that all other 3rd countries follow.

Still at least Brexitears knew they were voting for this.
837
02/02/2021 16:02:28 0 1
bbc
Absolutely 101% true
51
02/02/2021 15:31:40 4 10
bbc
Does this mean EU fishing boats are now unable to catch this shellfish in UK waters cos it won't they won't be purified? No? Oh how odd EU double standards at work again....playing like they always have done with contract procurement rules.
825
02/02/2021 16:02:02 0 1
bbc
The EU has never operated anything other than double standards and, as I've commented above it will allow ALL EU based fishing boats to land whatever they like whether the catch has been purified or not.
52
02/02/2021 15:31:42 6 10
bbc
The previous arrangement presumably worked ok, so why can't it carry on as before? Is this the EU trying to make life difficult??
133
02/02/2021 15:35:36 3 1
bbc
Because 17.4 million people voted to end the sanity and replace it with this insanity. The previous arrangements were far from perfect, so the more gullible, including many fishing industry insiders, voted to make it worse. On their heads be it.
180
02/02/2021 15:37:17 2 1
bbc
Not difficult for them.... they have a ready supply of shellfish from their member states. Why would they want dirty. foreign shellfish?
182
02/02/2021 15:37:20 3 1
bbc
UK chose to leave the previous arrangement, by choice, not forced. UK chose to be a third country with regard to the EU so its wishes are being respected.

In the real world you cannot have your cake and eat it.
236
02/02/2021 15:39:20 1 1
bbc
Guess
256
02/02/2021 15:37:15 3 1
bbc
This is the rules that 3rd countries (those outside of the EU) have to follow. Not the EU making it difficult, just the Uk having to follow the rules it helped write.
285
02/02/2021 15:40:59 0 1
bbc
This is brexit. Previous arrangements no longer apply. We left.
736
02/02/2021 15:59:08 0 1
bbc
Of course it is the EU is absolutely terrified that the UK just might be successful outside it's iron grip and that other 'members' might just be tempted to join us and thus destroy the cosy dictatorship that they've created.
53
02/02/2021 15:28:25 89 38
bbc
Isn't that hilarious? It was the fishing folk who wanted back 'control'. Serves them right for voting leave.
156
02/02/2021 15:34:31 79 101
bbc
Just EU lashing out at anyone and everything that doesn't fit their totalitarian non elected superstate
676
02/02/2021 15:56:32 0 6
bbc
The fishing industry voted LEAVE because they wanted an END to EU control of the waters around the UK and which had virtually destroyed just about the finest fishing industry anywhere.

Do remember that during the negotiations over Brexit the EU were demanding that THEY retain full control over all catches with only a tiny %age being given to UK based boats.
54
02/02/2021 15:28:28 90 22
bbc
Oh dear. Never mind. Isn't brexit wonderful.
221
02/02/2021 15:38:52 29 60
bbc
Keeps the media, especially BBC, having something to go on and on and on about as their reporter staff work from home and have nothing else to do. Arthur C Clarke couldn’t dream up some of the fantasy they postulate.
294
oie
02/02/2021 15:38:09 1 5
bbc
It's just the awful EU being the EU. Like recent events have shown.
618
02/02/2021 15:54:15 0 2
bbc
Yes
55
02/02/2021 15:31:47 5 7
bbc
So, this impacts all EU fisherman as well using UK waters.

Any catch in UK waters of shellfish are banned.
163
02/02/2021 15:36:30 0 1
bbc
Not quite, EU fishermen can land shellfish where there are purification plants.
Mind you, we can simply ban EU fishermen, tit for tat. Brexit rules mean nothing as exemplified by EU attempting to invoke rule 16 over NI last week. So why not.
370
02/02/2021 15:44:03 0 1
bbc
Nope, it's not where you catch them, it's where you land them. In an EU country or elsewhere. This country chose to be 'elsewhere'.
545
02/02/2021 15:51:03 0 1
bbc
Of course it doesn't because the EU will allow EVERY single item of shellfish caught in UK waters, irrespective of whether the have been purified or not, to be landed without the slightest hindrance.
6
02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
bbc
I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
56
02/02/2021 15:31:47 65 5
bbc
Those are the rules for 3rd countries. Birtain chose to be a third country, Britain chose to switch to those rules

Apparently voters knew what they were voting for, so you cannot blame anyone else except the brexit voters.
228
02/02/2021 15:39:01 11 9
bbc
I suppose the same how voters knew what they were voting for when they were told in the 70's they were joining a common market not a future European super state but hey ho nothing new.
232
02/02/2021 15:39:10 7 10
bbc
Isn't it a wonderful opportunity for us to invest in more of our own purification plants, creating jobs, finding solutions
Of course remoaners would never have such a positive thought in their heads
All doom & gloom
Remoaners are pessimists
Leavers far more optimistic
57
02/02/2021 15:31:48 12 18
bbc
Classic example of EU preventing/distorting competition, masquerading as their ever-reliable and oh-so-moral non-tariff barrier of 'standards'. Hopefully some common-sense ground can be found, but based on the current utter shambles in the EU, pigs might fly to Mars.
127
02/02/2021 15:35:09 2 2
bbc
awwww diddums. Are the nasty EU protecting themselves and their members?? How perfectly AWFUL
211
02/02/2021 15:38:29 1 1
bbc
No, this is the EU applying the rules to the UK that it applies to all others outside its trading block/customs union. We got what we voted for....
251
02/02/2021 15:36:06 1 1
bbc
We voted to be outside of the EU and to follow the same rules as all 3rd countries that export to the EU. This is what the brexitears voted for and has nothing to do with the EU. It's the utter shambles of Brexit.
485
02/02/2021 15:48:24 0 1
bbc
After the fiasco of the EU's attempt to prevent Vaccines from being exported out of the EU which was due entirely to it's utter incompetence in agreeing contracts while the UK got on with the job and secured them I think that it might make pigs flying to Mars appear easy than getting ANYTHING SENSIBLE out of Brussels.
58
JC
02/02/2021 15:32:03 12 8
bbc
There is a domestic market of nearly 67 million people to sell to!
94
02/02/2021 15:33:58 0 2
bbc
ewwwww!
147
02/02/2021 15:36:06 0 1
bbc
Can't stand seafood so rule me out. Already down to 66,999,999
150
02/02/2021 15:36:15 0 1
bbc
I have always struggled to get fresh shellfish, they just don't seem to be availble in Lidl.
154
02/02/2021 15:34:22 0 1
bbc
Great thing that the domestic market of 68 million all like shellfish and can eat it....
59
02/02/2021 15:32:05 129 24
bbc
This is another of Boris's sign quickly without reading successes.
We are being lead by the incompetent and insane.
383
02/02/2021 15:44:25 43 18
bbc
Unforunately these incompetent & insanes are chosen by British voters :(
427
02/02/2021 15:46:08 0 7
bbc
So you have read... here on the BBC. Grow up.
02/02/2021 16:11:01 1 1
bbc
No, this is the EU going back on its word and failing to deliver on a "promise" made during the withdrawal agreement & trade deal negotiations. Brexiteers always sais they couldn't trust the EU, now they are proven correct.
When Boris threatened to act in breach of the WA he was castigated, but now the EU act in breach of the trade deal and that's ok - double standards from the pathetic europhiles
02/02/2021 16:18:47 0 0
bbc
Rather than negotiate for years and years? While the uncertainty cripples us?
60
02/02/2021 15:32:07 280 57
bbc
It is really, really difficult to have sympathy for the fishermen.

Still, that's what happens when every challenge to Brexit was met with 'Project Fear' with no sensible or meaningful discussion.

They've been played I'm afraid.
196
02/02/2021 15:37:53 167 90
bbc
The Scottish fishermen never favoured brexit. They’ve been thrown under the red brexit bus by the daily mail readers of southern England
Sorry but your 100% wrong as our fishermen deserve every sympathy & all the support they can get.

Prior to that obsessive nincompoop Heath handing FULL control of our waters to the Common Market the UK had one of the most efficient fishing industries anywhere now, thank to the EEC & EU it's a mere shadow while EU boats have routinely been allowed to 'rape' our waters without any sanction.
Removed
535
02/02/2021 15:47:11 7 1
bbc
We've been done up like a kipper ! :)
781
LG
02/02/2021 16:00:47 0 1
bbc
Yep done up like a kipper
Removed
02/02/2021 16:18:08 0 0
bbc
They're not fishermen, they are shellfish farmers.
61
02/02/2021 15:32:13 20 4
bbc
at least they're now British shellfish and happy according to mogg ??
62
02/02/2021 15:32:28 21 2
bbc
Why don't we eat the British shell fish, and the EU eat the EU shell fish? Everyone saves a lot of messing about.
159
02/02/2021 15:36:22 15 6
bbc
Because spoiler ... the EU doesn't have any shellfish. We have the best waters, provided with nutrients from the gulf stream. By comparison, the Mediterranean is an over fished dead sea with little in it. That's why all of Europe's boats were in our waters.
640
02/02/2021 15:49:43 0 1
bbc
I have been trying to buy clams for months, prawns are from the far east, Why as you say cant we eat it?
984
02/02/2021 16:02:53 1 1
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Because statistically, nowadays British people eat very little seafood (half as much as countries like Spain and Portugal) and the seafood we DO choose to eat is less common in UK waters.

So unless you're able to fundamentally change the diet of the UK public, there is going to need to be trade.
You voted for it you English Brexit halfwits - own it it's yours. Removed
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02/02/2021 15:34:50 2 1
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Absolutely. It was the English that voted for brexit. The Scots, whose seafood industry is badly hit by this, are paying the price.
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02/02/2021 15:32:31 4 2
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taKinG bak kontrole
65
02/02/2021 15:32:31 6 11
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It hurts member nations and their people as much as us
It also hurts other nations which export these shellfish to the EU
EU are being petty and spiteful
#Simple as
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02/02/2021 15:35:59 0 4
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Have the EU ever been anything else other than 'Spiteful and Selfish' to anyone who is not prepared to knuckle under and accept their diktat.
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02/02/2021 15:32:38 23 5
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Tantrum after tantrum. Brexit means Brexit.
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02/02/2021 15:35:55 5 6
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Not if your a fisherman,lied to
No doubt your an old faxt,with nice pension
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02/02/2021 15:38:13 1 1
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Brexit means Brexit means no idea
37
02/02/2021 15:30:47 6 10
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Presumably The EU was happy enough to accept our shellfish before Brexit. How are the shellfish now different just because we’re not members ?
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02/02/2021 15:32:40 5 1
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"The EU" was US!!!!!!!!! If you read the article it would tell you our shellfish were put in purification tanks elsewhere in the EU prior to sale.
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02/02/2021 15:38:25 0 1
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Certainly I was not aware of that but surely the same tanks are still available.
68
02/02/2021 15:32:42 40 11
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We're going to thrive after Brexit, thrive!

Hahahahahahaha
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02/02/2021 15:43:15 8 17
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Why dont you get in the French queue for jabs...brave boy!
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02/02/2021 15:27:00 209 10
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That is so shellfish.
69
02/02/2021 15:32:50 98 6
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We mustn't get too crabby.
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DJG
02/02/2021 15:35:34 13 1
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I think they just want o muscle in on our business.
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02/02/2021 15:32:54 72 42
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French restaurants are busy chopping off their noses to spite their faces. Enjoy your snails and horse meat instead.

We'll just sell to the Chinese. They have an insatiable demand for seafood.
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02/02/2021 15:34:25 34 4
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French restaurants are closed.
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02/02/2021 15:34:35 6 1
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But they won't be fresh,hence no good
And every other animal on earth, dog, Pangolin , Bat, ect ,ect Removed
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02/02/2021 15:37:37 14 3
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It will have gone off by the time it gets there. China is actually quite far away.
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Dad
02/02/2021 15:39:59 6 1
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Have a guess how many cockles we sell to Beijing.

Have a guess what the demand is for English cockles in Beijing.

Have a guess how much the French will miss English cockles.

I'll give you a clue... you're wrong.
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02/02/2021 15:41:19 5 2
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So your solution Einstein is to stick them on a plane to fly for 9 hours to sell in China? I think you will find there are shellfish a lot closer to China that don't need intercontinental flights. Anyway I thought you Brexity types were all tree-huggers now saving the environment and everything ;-)
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02/02/2021 15:43:02 1 1
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Hope you are being facetious
608
02/02/2021 15:53:53 4 1
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Perfect. Let's become trade partners with a Country that treats it's citizens with disdain and blocks political debate and silences any opinions that don't match theirs.
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02/02/2021 16:02:47 4 1
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Our shell fish is banned in china because of our supporting Hong Kong, the official reason is Cadmium levels that suddenly emerged after Hong Kong flared up.
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02/02/2021 15:32:55 4 3
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Get out of the North Sea right now.
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02/02/2021 15:27:58 30 26
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As a vegetarian, I'd say 'good', but since there are a lot of people who enjoy flesh eating, I'd say there is now more for Britain. The EU will have to find alternative sources of supply & by the time they come back, cap in hand, the British fisheries industry will have moved on. This is petty spite by the EU, since nothing as actually changed except Britain chose to no longer be controlled.
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02/02/2021 15:32:57 6 0
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Britain chose to be treated like a third country, like Albania, Self inflicted.
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wat
02/02/2021 15:30:50 6 22
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Didn't take long for the pearl-clutching remainers to put in their two-penneth did it?
Clearly this is yet another example of petty behaviour from the EU. Sour grain-de-raisin from our "friends" across the water.
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02/02/2021 15:32:57 6 1
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The rules were agreed so it's hardly petty. We chose to leave so blame is with us.
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02/02/2021 15:30:47 6 10
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Presumably The EU was happy enough to accept our shellfish before Brexit. How are the shellfish now different just because we’re not members ?
74
02/02/2021 15:32:57 4 1
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If you voted for Brexit this is precisely the sort of thing you should have thought about. The talk of sunny uplands was always nonsense. This is the future. Poorer trading conditions, delays, increased cost and for little if any benefit.
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02/02/2021 15:33:10 14 10
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We will cut red tape...
We have a clear deal...
HAHAHA...

As Johnny Rotten said... "Ever thought you've been had?"
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02/02/2021 15:38:57 1 2
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Its better then being dictated to, by those muppets!
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02/02/2021 15:25:32 145 22
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Who signed us up to these rules and red tape?
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02/02/2021 15:33:23 258 43
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@"Who signed us up to these rules and red tape?"
--

The brexiteers.

They knew what they were voting for, as they never shy away from reminding us.

So they can't shift the blame on anyone else.

These are what the EU rules have always been for non-EU countries. The brexiteers decided this is what they wanted.
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02/02/2021 15:38:56 14 46
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We knew the EU were corrupt, protectionist and malicious before we left, which is why we wanted to leave.

So sorry that it needed this to wake you up.
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02/02/2021 15:39:34 40 1
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This isn't some surprise bombshell that has been dropped on us.
These are EU trading rules that apply to all third-country traders.

This was a known consequence way back in 2016.
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02/02/2021 15:39:17 3 8
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A Remainer who doesn't think Brexiteers didn't know what they were voting for ..... a very rare breed!!
542
02/02/2021 15:50:54 9 0
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Yes they knew what they were voting for, as they keep reminding us.
02/02/2021 16:19:49 0 0
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Not enough remainers voted to stay. I know plenty that bleated about the result stating that "they didn't think it would happen....." oh dear.... surely you fight for what you feel is precious, not leave it to "everyone else". Not enough cross party working to actually thrash out a decent deal instead there was mud flinging and talk about a "peoples vote", but hey, the people did vote.......
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02/02/2021 15:33:25 7 3
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Get in! Where can i buy them from?
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02/02/2021 15:30:09 117 181
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Nothing about improving the water quality. This is EU petty point scoring at it's finest. The shell fish and molluscs were fine to eat 5 weeks ago. Not now. Fine we will take our world leading products to other markets.
78
02/02/2021 15:33:27 28 2
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Yes, they're queuing up for our fresh seafood in the Far East !
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02/02/2021 15:37:49 11 21
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They are actually. British seafood, in particular our shellfish, is prized in China and the Far East. It is because of our nutrient rich water feed by the Gulf Stream produces the succulent and sweet shellfish far superior to anything you'd find in the Med or China Seas.

I know this probably doesn't fit your Brexit bad EU good narrative but tough.
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02/02/2021 15:29:12 462 163
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This is what Brexit is about. Not blue passports, not 'getting our sovereignty back', not £350 million a week to the NHS.

Those were lies.

This is the truth.
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02/02/2021 15:33:27 78 43
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I can confirm this. The new passports are so dark blue they look black. Just like the pre-EU ones. Oh the humanity.
02/02/2021 16:17:07 0 0
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Which country are those passports made in ?
80
02/02/2021 15:33:28 8 5
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Obviously not "oven-ready".
81
02/02/2021 15:33:28 10 6
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The shellfish will be happy about that since they are proud to be British.
82
02/02/2021 15:33:31 88 24
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So why aren't we banning all European boats from harvesting the shellfish in British waters?
134
02/02/2021 15:35:38 95 7
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Because Johnson signed an agreement that allowed them to.
238
02/02/2021 15:39:23 5 4
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Because you're busy being bamboozled by right-wing populists who aren't sound in the things they tell you and the decisions they make. Enjoy your fishy diet
02/02/2021 16:08:41 1 1
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You don't understand how the shellfish industry works, do you?
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02/02/2021 15:33:35 9 7
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Hmmmm ... Well, it does seem as though Britain's let itself be shafted, doesn't it?
Keep our fisheriesopen to EU boats but they close their markets to ours. Oddly, if a French boat were to take the same oysters from the same waters, its skipper would be allowed to land and sell them. Well done, Boris.
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02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
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I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
84
02/02/2021 15:33:36 33 2
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It's because we're a third country,out of the EU,hence were treated like any other country
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wat
02/02/2021 15:30:50 6 22
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Didn't take long for the pearl-clutching remainers to put in their two-penneth did it?
Clearly this is yet another example of petty behaviour from the EU. Sour grain-de-raisin from our "friends" across the water.
85
02/02/2021 15:33:38 3 1
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Just ignorance from people who didn't know/care what leaving meant.
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02/02/2021 15:33:39 17 10
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If the EU want to play these games, it works both ways. For starters we should ban the import of pork that are produced in a way that do not meet UK welfare standards. Long term the UK will shift away from buying produce from the EU
229
02/02/2021 15:39:02 4 2
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Should ban vegetables that are grown in Dutch greenhouses. That's where we get those vile watery cucumbers from.
889
02/02/2021 16:04:18 0 1
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Actually even when we were in the EU, their pigmeat had to meet out standards, and still does, these are much higher in terms of animal welfare than the EU’s!
87
02/02/2021 15:33:39 23 10
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Fishermen major Brexit bannermen, now, possibly, waking up to Farage's lies and Johnson's opportunism.
88
02/02/2021 15:33:39 18 13
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Any remotely negative thing the Beeb can light on in regard to Brexit, it does. Did you notice the deafening Beeb silence at the weekend when the EU REALLY screwed up?
158
02/02/2021 15:36:20 4 7
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You should change your username to hard nosed right-winger
160
02/02/2021 15:36:25 1 1
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To be fair I thought they covered it extensively and were more than critical of the EU, Katie Adler's reports especially.
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02/02/2021 15:27:25 49 42
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Not a fan of this brexit but this is clearly the EU spitting their dummy out.
89
02/02/2021 15:33:40 15 0
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This is the EU treating Britain the way it voted to be treated.
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02/02/2021 15:30:37 6 5
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any deal on fish should have been reciprocal on equal landing rights

what idiot lets 75% of your fish get taken by the EU fishermen
and does not say you can only fish in our waters if our fisher man
can land their 25% of the under the same terms you do .

its now only a matter of Mouths before the whole trade deal comes crashing down .

90
02/02/2021 15:33:41 1 1
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Are you seeing the truth yet? Maybe you should have listened to the 48.
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02/02/2021 15:30:33 6 27
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EXACTLY AS PREDICTED- THE DEAL IS COLLAPSING ALREADY!

WTO NOW!!

PROSPER UK!!

FREEDOM FROM EU DICTATORSHIP!!
91
02/02/2021 15:33:44 1 2
bbc
You want to make things worse?
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02/02/2021 15:45:23 1 1
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Can they get any worse? Really? Dictated to by the EU, with no say on the matter. We should have gone no deal, shown to the EU we would survive, and only then negotiated. As it is, we're just under the whim of the EU now because they think we need this deal. Boris bottled it basically, he's a surrender merchant.
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jan
02/02/2021 15:33:49 13 2
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we will at the very least be preserving fish stocks, and helping to save the oceans and our planet!
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02/02/2021 15:35:52 5 2
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Shellfish is generally farmed
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wat
02/02/2021 15:30:50 6 22
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Didn't take long for the pearl-clutching remainers to put in their two-penneth did it?
Clearly this is yet another example of petty behaviour from the EU. Sour grain-de-raisin from our "friends" across the water.
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Rob
02/02/2021 15:33:52 1 1
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Hmmm... and there's me thinking that Brexit was supposed to result in LESS bureaucracy and red tape for UK fishermen, not more! Didn't work, did it?
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JC
02/02/2021 15:32:03 12 8
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There is a domestic market of nearly 67 million people to sell to!
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02/02/2021 15:33:58 0 2
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ewwwww!
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Dad
02/02/2021 15:34:02 25 10
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Removed
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02/02/2021 15:34:05 11 13
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Once again the EU is being pedantic and no grace period allowed. Question is why we are being so nice about it and allowing them our end?
655
02/02/2021 15:55:46 0 1
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We had a grace period of a year
Or was it 5 years?
But ultimately it seems we don't hold all the cards, after all
40
02/02/2021 15:30:56 16 7
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Another example of the EU flexing their mussels...
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02/02/2021 15:34:05 3 2
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The mussels from Brussels :0)
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02/02/2021 15:34:10 14 4
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Not a surprise, it is the sort of issue the leavers said wouldn't happen. We were in a club, we choose to leave, we no longer benefit from the rules of being in the club. If you chose to leave a golf club and were then told as a non member you couldn't book a tee time at weekends, you would just get on with it. Same here. We've left, it will cost us in so many unseen ways. Like 4% of GDP!
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02/02/2021 15:25:58 140 25
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I don't get it. When we were in the EU it was okay to send live shellfish that hadn't been treated in water purification tanks. but now we're outside the EU they have to go through a purification tank. There must have been some standard check?
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02/02/2021 15:34:14 43 1
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It's almost as if we are not part of the EU any longer and we can't benefit from our membership!
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wat
02/02/2021 15:30:50 6 22
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Didn't take long for the pearl-clutching remainers to put in their two-penneth did it?
Clearly this is yet another example of petty behaviour from the EU. Sour grain-de-raisin from our "friends" across the water.
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02/02/2021 15:34:19 2 1
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you missed off the t m8