R&A proposals set to limit ball distance
02/02/2021 | sport | golf | 549
Golf's rule makers are proposing changes to help curb the length professional players can hit the ball off the tee.
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02/02/2021 14:43:19 80 1
bbc
Good news. But rules are there to be pushed and pushed, so can’t blame BdC for it. Ball technology needs to be curbed too. The design of golf courses is becoming largely irrelevant - fairway bunkers at 280y aren’t even a threat anymore. More play on courses the way they were designed to be played = more entertainment for us.
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02/02/2021 17:55:23 64 5
bbc
Ways to improve golf.

1. Narrower fairways
2. Proper, punishing rough
3. Stratigically placed bunkers and water hazards, ones that will cause problems
4. Reduce slow play with penalty shots for those who take too long
5. Kick out and ban the Stupid fans who shout at the golfers all the time

Hope I covered everything?
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02/02/2021 17:59:12 5 5
bbc
Technology in most sports needs to be limited. Basketball courts are still same length with nets the same height as 100 years ago, when the average player was 5'11.
Mens tennis is even worse. Courts still same size as 100 years ago, but players are now enormous, with huge racquets, balls and strings, made of space age materials.
One is lucky to see something called a rally, in mens tennis anymore.
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02/02/2021 14:48:39 23 0
bbc
Whilst it looks like poor timing for Bryson, who was exploring every area of the rules - as he should as professional, this is a good thing.

Many courses are not designed for the distances players are able to hit today. Hazards can now be easily cleared, removing an element of strategy.
It depends what people want to golf to be weighted towards, long hitting, or accurate hitting, both have value.
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02/02/2021 14:49:17 4 5
bbc
Hard to see how they can limit the advantage off the tee that athletes will always have. The best player in the world (Justin Thomas) is not short off the tee and one just hopes that the most skilled players can win their fair share.
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02/02/2021 15:07:41 6 0
bbc
3rd best according to the world rankings
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02/02/2021 14:50:42 1 34
bbc
Clubs and Balls need regulating but I see no reason whatsoever why the unelected undemocratic R&A should be interfering in Mens Professional Golf
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02/02/2021 15:07:57 21 1
bbc
They don't, at least unilaterally. They, along with the USGA, are the sports governing body.

Between them I think they try to do right by the sport at the professional and amateur level.
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02/02/2021 15:21:47 5 0
bbc
Who else do you suggest? Yourself, maybe? The R&A & USGA write the rules. If that isn't 'interfering in men's professional golf' I don't know what is. The specs of the equipment have ALWAYS been regulated by the R&A. Why suddenly so precious about it now?
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02/02/2021 15:21:52 5 0
bbc
the R&A ARE the regulatators for equipment . saying they should be elected is just idiotic nonsense
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02/02/2021 15:21:56 3 0
bbc
Are you Arthur Scargill?
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02/02/2021 16:27:58 0 0
bbc
By this are you suggesting that the USGA should take over the running and managing of the game of golf worldwide singlehandedly?
The advantage of having more than one organisation controlling Golf is that one can as a counterbalance the other
By not making any objective suggestion(s) this looks like an ill thought through knee-jerk reaction
Or maybe people replying are victims of your click bait!
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02/02/2021 15:06:10 34 5
bbc
It's time for an official ball. Every other sport has one, so why not golf.
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02/02/2021 15:21:15 32 0
bbc
£££/$$$
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02/02/2021 19:05:53 0 0
bbc
because they don't!

How many different makes and models of Football do you think are used in Association Football across the various leagues?
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02/02/2021 22:10:43 0 0
bbc
Not an official one, a BIGGER one. All of today's technology is about reducing spin, which means straighter shots if you are a pro or consistent striker. Make the ball bigger and you have to combat spin and wind resistance......go kick a similar weight beach ball and smaller football in your garden and see what happens.
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03/02/2021 08:01:14 0 3
bbc
Golf is not a (dull) sport. It's a (dull) game that involves a short walk. A true sport blends skill, tactics and physical strength. Golfists are put off by the third criterion as this (dull,) forum shows.
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02/02/2021 15:06:11 6 2
bbc
Won’t make much of a difference. People talk about the ball, I say nonsense. Best thing to do is is reduce the CC size of the club head down. People say “oh but I hit my 10 year old driver just as far as my new shiny one” - you may well do when out the middle but the mishits will be miles less based on the testing I’ve done. Go back to the R300 days of sub 400 CC driver heads
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02/02/2021 15:06:39 2 1
bbc
Just limit the number of clubs allowed in the bag depending upon the perceived difficulty of the course.
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02/02/2021 15:21:52 2 0
bbc
I seen a video of John Rahm playing a lob shot with a 4 iron recently.. Might not be enough.
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02/02/2021 14:49:17 4 5
bbc
Hard to see how they can limit the advantage off the tee that athletes will always have. The best player in the world (Justin Thomas) is not short off the tee and one just hopes that the most skilled players can win their fair share.
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02/02/2021 15:07:41 6 0
bbc
3rd best according to the world rankings
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02/02/2021 17:15:30 0 1
bbc
Keep watching Mr VTID he is head and shoulders above the rest, just marvel as he dances away with the Masters this year.
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02/02/2021 14:50:42 1 34
bbc
Clubs and Balls need regulating but I see no reason whatsoever why the unelected undemocratic R&A should be interfering in Mens Professional Golf
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02/02/2021 15:07:57 21 1
bbc
They don't, at least unilaterally. They, along with the USGA, are the sports governing body.

Between them I think they try to do right by the sport at the professional and amateur level.
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02/02/2021 15:09:42 2 2
bbc
Golf is a point to point game, it is no good being able to hit it 300+ yards if you can't get it in the hole in less shots than your opponents.
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02/02/2021 16:08:14 6 0
bbc
... *fewer* shots .... perleeez ??
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02/02/2021 15:10:27 42 2
bbc
Putters need shortening too. They say you can no longer 'anchor' the putter but if your hand is buried into your chest and holding the putter it adds up to the same thing. If an occasional golfer rocked up on a Saturday with a 5ft long putter you'd be a laughing stock - and it wouldn't fit in your golf bag!
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02/02/2021 15:14:19 11 5
bbc
It's against the rules to bury your hand in your chest, that IS anchoring. There must be no contact with the arms or hands against the chest. Contact with loose clothing is allowed as long as it is not providing an anchor point, which if it is loose, I struggle to see how it can.
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02/02/2021 16:45:48 0 3
bbc
I had a 48" broomhandle once. Turned up at the club for a medal....got laughed at. The laughs soon stopped when I drained a 15 footer on the first and followed it up with a 20 footer on the 2nd. Got rid of it in the end as it was uncontrollable in the wind!!!
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02/02/2021 16:46:20 3 0
bbc
Agreed! BANTHE LONG PUTTER. It’s about time the R and A had enough cojones to do it and to hell with what the PGA say.
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rob
02/02/2021 20:15:14 0 0
bbc
I fully agree - long Putters should be banned - they don’t look stupid and it is so easy to cheat by anchoring
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02/02/2021 15:11:57 64 1
bbc
Not rocket science, why do these big thumpers struggle more on British style courses? They are set up differently, bunker layouts, rough etc. We all love to see big boomers, but make it less easy for them with punishing conditions when they go off line, like they do so very often.
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02/02/2021 18:04:28 25 8
bbc
Technology in most sports needs to be limited. Basketball courts are still same length with nets the same height as 100 years ago, when the average player was 5'11.
Mens tennis is even worse. Courts still same size as 100 years ago, but players are now enormous, with huge racquets, balls and strings, made of space age materials.
One is lucky to see something called a rally, in mens tennis anymore.
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02/02/2021 19:04:01 3 0
bbc
Yep, Links courses are way shorter than the USGA courses by and large. They are also more open and way more penal if you don't hit the fairways.

More Links golf please.
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02/02/2021 19:59:25 2 0
bbc
They would likely struggle a lot on the great American courses too (like Pine Valley, Oakmont, Pinehurst no. 2 as well). Those ones are a true challenge, unlike many of the courses on the PGA Tour that are as flat as a pancake and most hazards are there just for show
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02/02/2021 15:13:50 5 7
bbc
Bryson DeChambeau: R&A rule change proposals set to curb US Open champion's length...anything that can get this individual off the golf course is a plus. I simply do not believe anyone can put on body bulk like he did in such a short period of time.
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02/02/2021 15:20:23 23 0
bbc
I managed it first lock-down without leaving the sofa.
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02/02/2021 15:23:57 2 0
bbc
Putting on bulk is relatively easy dependant upon what you are supplementing your training with. I would query how effective drug testing is within golf.
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02/02/2021 15:10:27 42 2
bbc
Putters need shortening too. They say you can no longer 'anchor' the putter but if your hand is buried into your chest and holding the putter it adds up to the same thing. If an occasional golfer rocked up on a Saturday with a 5ft long putter you'd be a laughing stock - and it wouldn't fit in your golf bag!
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02/02/2021 15:14:19 11 5
bbc
It's against the rules to bury your hand in your chest, that IS anchoring. There must be no contact with the arms or hands against the chest. Contact with loose clothing is allowed as long as it is not providing an anchor point, which if it is loose, I struggle to see how it can.
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02/02/2021 18:37:04 2 0
bbc
if both hands do not follow the same arc it is not a stroke, the hand at the top of the long putter does not follow the arc of the stroke ergo it is anchored.
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02/02/2021 22:16:40 0 0
bbc
What about your chin ? I have many !
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02/02/2021 15:17:37 2 14
bbc
I'm a Mickelson fan but DeChambeau is a stunning talent. A generational talent, I'd go as far as to say. I've never seen a more talented driver and I've been watching, playing and coaching golf for the better part of 30 years.
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02/02/2021 19:07:40 2 0
bbc
Coaching ? Really ? And you don’t believe McIlroy, D Johnson are more talented drivers who hit long and hit the fairway about twice as often as DeChambeau ?
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02/02/2021 21:14:40 0 0
bbc
A generational talent? Safinator have you been sniffing glue? Only that or you being Bryson's wife, can explain such a ridiculous comment. It's your opinion but it's utter nonsense.
He trained his body to hit the ball a long way..... and won a couple of tournaments.....erm.....that's it I think.....
He does not compare to Rory, Tiger or DJ and has a long way to go to be even close.
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02/02/2021 15:18:25 83 1
bbc
It's not just 'big hitters' that need addressing, it's the slow play, golf used to be so good to watch, not anymore. It's like the EPL, 1minute 32 seconds it took in a game the other night to take a standard free kick. Speed the game up.
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02/02/2021 15:27:41 22 77
bbc
I don’t think golf has ever really been that good to watch
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02/02/2021 16:53:13 5 0
bbc
But part of that is due to the long hitting, courses have had to shove tees back so every hole isn't a drive and a wedge. They now take 5+ hours to get round. But absolutely agree the shot clock needs to be shorter and harsher.
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02/02/2021 20:43:09 0 0
bbc
You are obviously too young to have watched Ken Brown then, should the powers take on board most suggestions then you are going to get even slower play.
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02/02/2021 22:21:07 1 0
bbc
Absolutely right about soccer! Why this boring drawn-out pantomime at free kicks, with everyone waiting while the ref draws his little white line and his little circle, and the defence lines up its “wall” and marshals its players? Blow whistle, ball down, blow whistle again, ball now in play. If you’re not 10m away when the free kick is taken, give another free kick, move the ball on 10 metres.
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02/02/2021 15:13:50 5 7
bbc
Bryson DeChambeau: R&A rule change proposals set to curb US Open champion's length...anything that can get this individual off the golf course is a plus. I simply do not believe anyone can put on body bulk like he did in such a short period of time.
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02/02/2021 15:20:23 23 0
bbc
I managed it first lock-down without leaving the sofa.
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02/02/2021 15:06:10 34 5
bbc
It's time for an official ball. Every other sport has one, so why not golf.
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02/02/2021 15:21:15 32 0
bbc
£££/$$$
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02/02/2021 15:21:41 33 6
bbc
Ban metal woods, what have traditionally been "woods" should be made of wood.

While your on rule that the putter should be the shortest club in the bag.
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02/02/2021 18:07:41 5 0
bbc
Woods are also now the size of a small football. Ridiculous. Soon, we will have clubs where the sweet spot won't be able to miss the ball at all.
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02/02/2021 14:50:42 1 34
bbc
Clubs and Balls need regulating but I see no reason whatsoever why the unelected undemocratic R&A should be interfering in Mens Professional Golf
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02/02/2021 15:21:47 5 0
bbc
Who else do you suggest? Yourself, maybe? The R&A & USGA write the rules. If that isn't 'interfering in men's professional golf' I don't know what is. The specs of the equipment have ALWAYS been regulated by the R&A. Why suddenly so precious about it now?
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02/02/2021 15:06:39 2 1
bbc
Just limit the number of clubs allowed in the bag depending upon the perceived difficulty of the course.
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02/02/2021 15:21:52 2 0
bbc
I seen a video of John Rahm playing a lob shot with a 4 iron recently.. Might not be enough.
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02/02/2021 14:50:42 1 34
bbc
Clubs and Balls need regulating but I see no reason whatsoever why the unelected undemocratic R&A should be interfering in Mens Professional Golf
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02/02/2021 15:21:52 5 0
bbc
the R&A ARE the regulatators for equipment . saying they should be elected is just idiotic nonsense
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02/02/2021 17:27:09 1 0
bbc
The R&A genuinely have the good of golf at their heart very few sports are lucky to be able to say that about the corrupt governing bodies that seem so prevalent these days.
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02/02/2021 14:50:42 1 34
bbc
Clubs and Balls need regulating but I see no reason whatsoever why the unelected undemocratic R&A should be interfering in Mens Professional Golf
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02/02/2021 15:21:56 3 0
bbc
Are you Arthur Scargill?
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02/02/2021 16:30:01 0 4
bbc
The have every right to run Open
They are a self propagating elite
I also strongly dislike Amateurs running or attempting to run Pro Sport
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02/02/2021 15:23:09 31 1
bbc
game is too slow.
Nobody minded when tiger hit the ball further than others in the past
Long putters always look like they are anchored, always been suspicious of those who use them
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02/02/2021 18:10:58 6 0
bbc
Actually they did, and the American courses took steps to "counter" Tiger's distance advantage by making holes longer. Yes, they really were that stupid.
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03/02/2021 21:25:01 0 0
bbc
Technology hurt Tiger 99-02 when he used steel shafted drivers 42” 130 swing speed he was a great driver . He had a massive advantage then they brought in bigger headed drivers graphite shafts and the rest caught up. He was never as accurate with graphite drivers
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02/02/2021 15:23:52 246 6
bbc
Grow some rough - proper long stuff and then dig some bunkers with a J.C.B instead of a tea spoon, that should make it more natural.
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02/02/2021 16:22:42 121 0
bbc
Spot on. Always felt a score of -1 on a really tough course sporting all of those elements was more admirable than shooting -7 or -8 on a made to measure 7000 yard long carpet.
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02/02/2021 16:42:10 8 6
bbc
Or make all pro’s use proper old fashioned woods and irons. Minimal sweet spot and bend in the shaft will naturally limit distance. Will also make it all about skill.

Not for us amateurs though. I need all the help I can get!!!
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02/02/2021 17:17:50 8 1
bbc
Correct make fairway bunkers a real penalty
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02/02/2021 17:40:43 5 1
bbc
Totally agree... but we’ve already got that at most open venues. Problem is when the weather is fine they don’t find any of it. Tiger won the open at St Andrews in 2000 without visiting a bunker in all 4 rounds. It’s a very different story up there when the wind blows.
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02/02/2021 17:50:42 4 0
bbc
Good idea. Also make the bunkers a place to avoid rather than aplace to aim for.
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02/02/2021 17:51:55 4 0
bbc
Exactly any PGA Tour or European Tour event with longer rough and harder surface greens make the course a different challenge. But I would look at more bunkering. Torey Pines was a good test but still, they hit woods out fairway bunkers. I played with a pro last year you couldn't make it on the tour and I have never seen the ball hit so far.
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02/02/2021 17:59:55 7 0
bbc
Agree. Remember The Open at Carnoustie? Lots of complaints but brought tactics and skill, not just pure power
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02/02/2021 18:30:09 8 1
bbc
Yes, but the problem is that most tour courses are played on by paying members for the majority of the year. You would have to spend 2 months growing the rough for a 4 day tour event, no doubt annoying the members who then have to pleasure of paying to play on a really difficult course and losing lots of balls! Much easier to restrict the clubs and balls used by the tour pros.
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02/02/2021 19:01:56 8 0
bbc
and leave the fairways with a longer length of standard cut. Some of the Pros play of fairways that are closer mown than we amateurs have on greens. It will also reduce the roll after the absurd carry.
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02/02/2021 20:09:00 5 0
bbc
Make it more natural , introduce rabbits to every course, grazed as required and random obstacles.
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02/02/2021 20:38:29 7 0
bbc
Yes! When I was a kid in the summer the rough at Luffness and Gullane No 1 (same village as Muirfield & final qualifying courses for Muirfield Opens in those days) was three feet deep about 6 feet from the fairway. Bring it back. Don’t overwater the greens. I’d bring back the second cut after day 3 too. Bring the risk/reward thing in again.
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02/02/2021 21:34:37 5 1
bbc
And don't let Patrick Reed put the ball where he wants if he loses it in there.
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03/02/2021 01:22:04 1 0
bbc
That’s what they did and Bryson smashed it 350-400 yards into the rough then chipped out - that’s how he won. He didn’t win at Augusta because he had to shape the ball and others are better than him at that.
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03/02/2021 07:18:58 2 2
bbc
Natural? Golf courses are poisoned to within an inch of their lives. They are ecological deserts. Stop annihilating nature to facilitate your daft pursuit. That would make it look more natural, not bigger sandpits.
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03/02/2021 08:03:19 0 0
bbc
Quite, if the fairway finishes at 350 yards for 30 or 40 yards there is no point in hitting it longer unless you can fly it 400 yards.

Just limit the length of the fairways.
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03/02/2021 09:01:22 0 0
bbc
This is the best solution but will require change at all the course. Limiting clubs/balls has an effect at every course without them having to dig them all up. But over time thats what's should happen but the changing the clubs now will have an immediate effect.
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mjb
03/02/2021 09:19:25 0 0
bbc
look how well the US tea did at the Paris Ryder Cup with shaped holes, and knee length rough...
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02/02/2021 15:13:50 5 7
bbc
Bryson DeChambeau: R&A rule change proposals set to curb US Open champion's length...anything that can get this individual off the golf course is a plus. I simply do not believe anyone can put on body bulk like he did in such a short period of time.
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02/02/2021 15:23:57 2 0
bbc
Putting on bulk is relatively easy dependant upon what you are supplementing your training with. I would query how effective drug testing is within golf.
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02/02/2021 15:18:25 83 1
bbc
It's not just 'big hitters' that need addressing, it's the slow play, golf used to be so good to watch, not anymore. It's like the EPL, 1minute 32 seconds it took in a game the other night to take a standard free kick. Speed the game up.
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02/02/2021 15:27:41 22 77
bbc
I don’t think golf has ever really been that good to watch
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02/02/2021 16:31:52 20 3
bbc
Really productive comment there theprowerwins...
Get off the Golf section if it is of no interest to you
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Dan
02/02/2021 19:34:26 4 1
bbc
Never stepped foot on a Golf course in my life ... You can't beat the thrill of watching the Masters or the Ryder Cup....
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02/02/2021 20:59:42 0 0
bbc
That's your view...but why bother being on a HYS about...golf?!

It is clear 100s of thousands see golf as really good to watch, and many thousands turn up to watch live, in non-Covid times

It's 50%: Man, ball, clubs, swing, distance, wind/weather...on an undulating level playing field; same for everyone
- but also 50%: mindset, temperament, concentration & focus on the 'right shot, right time'
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02/02/2021 15:29:59 51 1
bbc
Golf is a game of risk and reward. So, simply narrow the fairway beyond the normal landing area with some real rough and put in a deep pot bunker or two. If the boomers want to go for it and get away with it then good luck to them.
I don't see many people complaining when the pros have a go at driving a short par 4. Take the risk and if it comes off reap the reward, if not take the punishment.
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02/02/2021 15:52:04 6 0
bbc
No one is trying to hinder you. The regulations will only affect the top players playing Chamionship courses.
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02/02/2021 15:30:44 9 2
bbc
The vast majority of golfers are h/cap 18 to 24, & are grateful for every bit of distance we can get. This proposal is just a sad reflection of authorities continue to think solely of pros/low handicap players. Edna Bucket's posting makes me laugh - fairway bunkers at 280 yards aren't a threat? Only to our 2nd shots! Don't forget, we pay everyones wages, golf subs/green fees etc. We are needed.
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02/02/2021 15:53:27 4 0
bbc
18-24 handicappers would hit longer drives with a shorter shaft, and be more accurate.
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02/02/2021 16:39:17 1 0
bbc
If you're off 18-24, you're starting the hole 100 yds in front of these guys. So the bunker is at 180 yards, which is probably right on your distance... But if you're playing off 18-24, you're likely not able to take advantage of the equipment that will be curbed anyway, so what difference does it make ?
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02/02/2021 15:33:29 11 0
bbc
As usual the Golfing Authorities finally doing something they should have tackled 25-30 years ago.
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02/02/2021 16:46:14 3 0
bbc
So who was hitting it too far 30 years ago? I'll give you John Daly but you would never have accused him of manipulating his body shape to improve his game.....
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02/02/2021 15:34:57 8 2
bbc
Golf's a great game and I trust the powers of be to do the right thing.

Personally, and as I watch most tournaments, I have never worried or disliked what I am watching.

It takes great skill to hit a golf ball a long way and very straight too.

I would like to see more rough on the courses. Get it knee high and let's see their 2nd shots out of that.

Looking forward to a great golfing year
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02/02/2021 15:45:36 0 0
bbc
"wait for it....wait for it... wait for it...." (Ben Franklin 19th at Pebble)
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02/02/2021 15:35:33 191 5
bbc
go old school ..protect the course scoring by its layout more rough, strategic bunkers, narrower fairways, taper the fairways so the further you drive the more accurate you have to be. If you drive it 350 + yards down the centre of every fairway good luck to you, you deserve to win. If you drive it 350+ and cant do that with control your second shot will have to be a hit and hope.
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02/02/2021 15:49:24 31 0
bbc
I'm with you guys
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02/02/2021 16:19:52 13 0
bbc
The Americans dont know what rough is.
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02/02/2021 18:43:41 4 0
bbc
This is fine, but put the really ugly stuff at around the 300yds mark, where your average golfer isn't going to go anywhere near it. I appreciate that they move the tees back for the pros, so this is difficult, but I like to enjoy my golf, and whilst I have a pretty tidy handicap, carving my way through 6ft bamboo, & digging myself out of the pits of hell after every bad shot isn't appealing....
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02/02/2021 23:47:18 2 0
bbc
My game is based around hit and hope
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03/02/2021 08:58:14 1 0
bbc
But in 5 years time, the 350yards becomes 400yards and all of the par 4s that amateurs find challenging becomes a cake walk for the pros.

The only solution is to limit the distance the pros can hit, or else we will end up with so few courses the pros can play.
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02/02/2021 15:35:58 1 2
bbc
So what difference does that make. The driver length is reduced to a length he's not even using. Just maintains the status quo. Problem is if they change anything that takes 20 yards off the big hitters it takes 30 yards off the rest.
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02/02/2021 15:39:59 4 1
bbc
length to be curbed.could they also curb obligatory beards,baseball caps and polo shirts covered in logos
50
02/02/2021 15:51:57 7 1
bbc
You can't beat the old, pink Pringle jumper, green and yellow check troosers and a tartan bunnet when it comes to style!
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02/02/2021 15:34:57 8 2
bbc
Golf's a great game and I trust the powers of be to do the right thing.

Personally, and as I watch most tournaments, I have never worried or disliked what I am watching.

It takes great skill to hit a golf ball a long way and very straight too.

I would like to see more rough on the courses. Get it knee high and let's see their 2nd shots out of that.

Looking forward to a great golfing year
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02/02/2021 15:45:36 0 0
bbc
"wait for it....wait for it... wait for it...." (Ben Franklin 19th at Pebble)
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02/02/2021 15:55:03 0 0
bbc
or what 2ironkid had to say to you recently?
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02/02/2021 15:46:42 2 0
bbc
Technology needs to be curbed too. Balls and clubs to increase head speed etc only aim to hit the ball the further so courses are now deemed old fashioned when fairway bunkers for us 'normal' players are now irrelevant to the pros! All pro's should have me caddying for the, that'll slow them down!
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02/02/2021 15:46:58 3 0
bbc
Get rid of spotters, long hitters will soon reign it in when they can't find their ball unless it's on the fairway!
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03/02/2021 01:37:56 0 0
bbc
Many on this forum have complained about slow play. Surely, if they were to get rid of the spotters, the players would take their full allowance for finding the ball and then use even more time having to go back to the tee box to play their 3rd shot.
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02/02/2021 15:47:07 13 3
bbc
Typical meely mouth response from R&A.
All those advocating more and more driving boomers are making places like St. Andrews redundant as world class courses requiring guile and skill.
We need to make courses harder too. Lets have some deep rough and narrow fairways.
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02/02/2021 15:56:51 6 0
bbc
St. Andrews has always been fairly easy for the pros in calm weather. Ah, but when the wind blows the further you hit it, the more trouble you will be in!
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02/02/2021 15:47:39 18 0
bbc
At Torrey pines this week, you had to hit fairways to have any chance of winning. Long rough from 300yds onwards please.
40
02/02/2021 15:48:09 8 2
bbc
I'm 70 ,now ,and my length isn't what it was .
355
02/02/2021 19:45:12 1 0
bbc
You need to treat yourself to some new clubs and balls, Jesse!
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02/02/2021 15:48:16 24 3
bbc
Fully agree that intervention is long overdue. There are many fantastic courses across the world that are being rendered unsuitable for pro events because they can’t get near to 7,500 yards. My own view is that they should also alter the compression of the balls for pro tournaments, so that the amateur game would be unaffected. I am bored watching relentless drive, pitch & putt competitions.
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02/02/2021 15:48:38 7 2
bbc
Good. It's long past time that golf AND tennis did something about the ever increasing technology advantage. And golf obviously has a problem because you can't simply increase the size of courses.
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02/02/2021 17:05:56 5 0
bbc
Tennis did do something about it years ago by limiting the ball speed through adapting the ball itself. Golf could so easily do this and it’s right what people are saying that it’s not just the driver that’s the issue. It’s every club in their bag. Limit the ball and job done. Oh so simple.
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Rab
02/02/2021 15:48:59 63 0
bbc
A lot of the blame has to fall on the tours for how they set the courses up. Simple laws of dispersion dictate that the further the ball travels the further from straight it will deviate. Penalise missed fairways. Set courses up like they did the Ryder Cup in France. Where accuracy from guys like Molinari came out trumps. If you nail it straight 350 plus yards every time then great.
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02/02/2021 17:17:25 26 1
bbc
It was reported that the US TV networks (Golf Channel etc.) want winning scores of -10 and much more etc. and that "people will stop watching if it's just -1 or stuff like that" - so the courses are being set up wide and generous to please the people who pay for the sport to exist, sadly.
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02/02/2021 15:35:33 191 5
bbc
go old school ..protect the course scoring by its layout more rough, strategic bunkers, narrower fairways, taper the fairways so the further you drive the more accurate you have to be. If you drive it 350 + yards down the centre of every fairway good luck to you, you deserve to win. If you drive it 350+ and cant do that with control your second shot will have to be a hit and hope.
44
02/02/2021 15:49:24 31 0
bbc
I'm with you guys
74
02/02/2021 16:01:55 3 4
bbc
Not the answer. Dechambeau didn't care about hitting it into the rough at the US open. A wedge out of the rough is simple to the pros. Must limit length. It a different game hitting 6 or 7 irons into greens.
45
02/02/2021 15:50:24 0 2
bbc
Of course regulating the length of the driver is an opportunity for the manufacturers to all market new regulation-compliant drivers.
190
02/02/2021 16:52:28 0 0
bbc
????? How many people use 46"+ drivers do you think? Unlike the long putter ban you won't see many redundant drivers in the bin
46
02/02/2021 15:50:31 1 1
bbc
What length is allowed for the 6’ 9” tall golfer? We’re not all Ian Woosnams!
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SH
02/02/2021 15:54:41 2 0
bbc
Basketball!
62
02/02/2021 15:56:45 0 0
bbc
6'9" people have arms that are long in proportion to their body.

Everybody's hands hang to mid-thigh whether they're tall or short.
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02/02/2021 16:01:56 1 0
bbc
Both George archer and Peter Oosterhuis stood 6'6" tall.

Archer was a Masters champion and Oosterhuis won 4 consecutive orders of merit. Many other tall golfers have had great careers with regular wins.
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02/02/2021 16:19:21 0 0
bbc
Big divots
47
02/02/2021 15:51:02 2 2
bbc
Too little too late. Reactionary rule making after the horse had bolted. Maybe they need to concentrate on speeding the game up rather than this nonsense
56
02/02/2021 15:53:54 1 0
bbc
Why too late, distances are increasing every year, just look at the long drive pantomimes. Time to take decisive action.
73
02/02/2021 16:01:44 0 0
bbc
But wouldn't making rules to speed the game up be reactionary? For interest both have to be looked at in the best interests of the game.
48
02/02/2021 15:51:16 6 0
bbc
I live on a course and anything to stop big but aimless hits suits me fine! Courses aren’t built to 2 shoot a 5 par.
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02/02/2021 15:51:49 17 1
bbc
I remember Jarmo Sandelin playing with an ultra long driver and he couldn't keep it straight. Whilst BDC will hit it further it may not be very straight. I think the courses need to be set up differently. For me a 24 under par winner does not make for an interesting event
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02/02/2021 16:42:30 4 0
bbc
Agree. Reducing the maximum length of shaft will not impact many golfers. Bigger issue is how far the ball is travelling. Most of the longer hitters can get an 8 iron to 180 yds.
34
02/02/2021 15:39:59 4 1
bbc
length to be curbed.could they also curb obligatory beards,baseball caps and polo shirts covered in logos
50
02/02/2021 15:51:57 7 1
bbc
You can't beat the old, pink Pringle jumper, green and yellow check troosers and a tartan bunnet when it comes to style!
28
02/02/2021 15:29:59 51 1
bbc
Golf is a game of risk and reward. So, simply narrow the fairway beyond the normal landing area with some real rough and put in a deep pot bunker or two. If the boomers want to go for it and get away with it then good luck to them.
I don't see many people complaining when the pros have a go at driving a short par 4. Take the risk and if it comes off reap the reward, if not take the punishment.
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02/02/2021 15:52:04 6 0
bbc
No one is trying to hinder you. The regulations will only affect the top players playing Chamionship courses.
52
02/02/2021 15:52:35 139 4
bbc
Accuracy rather than distance off the tee needs to be better rewarded: most courses on the PGA Tour have fairways three times too wide, bunkers that are not deep or steep enough & non-existent rough. It's tedious watching scores of 20-25 under par every other week. It's almost as bad for the game as the morons who used to (and presumably soon will again) scream "get in the hoooollllle!"
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02/02/2021 15:57:19 18 2
bbc
Fully agree
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02/02/2021 16:22:11 3 4
bbc
and equally inane as commentators saying "thats a great golf shot" . Well what else can it be? Cricket?
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02/02/2021 16:31:25 2 2
bbc
Compared to our links courses they are narrower.

Links courses unless the weather is atrocious are far easier than most PGA courses. St. Andrews has almost become irrelevant - play on a benign day and top players would all be shooting 60 to 64 easily.
258
02/02/2021 17:58:11 0 0
bbc
Not forgetting well padded down bunkers. I would be afraid to build sandcastles in them!
275
02/02/2021 18:09:32 3 0
bbc
It wouldn't be so bad if it were match play, but the same-old same-old jeopardy-free resort setups every week in stroke play becomes boring.
303
02/02/2021 18:41:52 1 0
bbc
4 idiots shout get in the hoolllle
323
02/02/2021 19:06:11 4 1
bbc
Sometimes on the tee shot of a par 5, but we know US crowds aren’t the sharpest tools in the box!!
53
02/02/2021 15:53:04 26 3
bbc
I have known 28 handicappers hit their tee shot well over 230 yards but cannot chip and putt. that is where the strokes disappear to. booming drives over 350 yards is just crazy as it destroys the older courses that are restricted in space, cannot all go back another 50 yards . change the ball as well as club length would be a bonus
54
02/02/2021 15:53:10 3 3
bbc
They should be more concerned about being able to put on an Open Championship for Sky in July.
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02/02/2021 15:30:44 9 2
bbc
The vast majority of golfers are h/cap 18 to 24, & are grateful for every bit of distance we can get. This proposal is just a sad reflection of authorities continue to think solely of pros/low handicap players. Edna Bucket's posting makes me laugh - fairway bunkers at 280 yards aren't a threat? Only to our 2nd shots! Don't forget, we pay everyones wages, golf subs/green fees etc. We are needed.
55
02/02/2021 15:53:27 4 0
bbc
18-24 handicappers would hit longer drives with a shorter shaft, and be more accurate.
47
02/02/2021 15:51:02 2 2
bbc
Too little too late. Reactionary rule making after the horse had bolted. Maybe they need to concentrate on speeding the game up rather than this nonsense
56
02/02/2021 15:53:54 1 0
bbc
Why too late, distances are increasing every year, just look at the long drive pantomimes. Time to take decisive action.
142
02/02/2021 16:33:08 1 0
bbc
I changed ball 4 years ago to Taylormade TP5X and suddenly gained 25 yards, that is the ball that convinced McIlroy go to them, they years behind
46
02/02/2021 15:50:31 1 1
bbc
What length is allowed for the 6’ 9” tall golfer? We’re not all Ian Woosnams!
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SH
02/02/2021 15:54:41 2 0
bbc
Basketball!
35
02/02/2021 15:45:36 0 0
bbc
"wait for it....wait for it... wait for it...." (Ben Franklin 19th at Pebble)
58
02/02/2021 15:55:03 0 0
bbc
or what 2ironkid had to say to you recently?
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02/02/2021 16:17:40 0 0
bbc
??.......is not the answer but the retort of the ignorant.
Who cares ....
What matters more is the pathetic repugnant cow- towing to the BLM hysteria.
I noticed the disgusting message on the bottom of the leader board .
I just hope they put it up for the next tournament in Chicago ... where in one weekend ... 50 homicides blacks on black .
Same with the premier league pathetically politically correct .
Removed
78
02/02/2021 16:05:26 0 0
bbc
It's kowtowing.
60
02/02/2021 15:55:59 5 0
bbc
for the game to thrive, its more about slow play than distance in my opinion of course. I have no issue with scores getting lower for the very elite player- scoring is not just about the length of the course its about the condition and quality of the greens, bunkers etc. the RandA don't seem to have worried about that ;-) The gaming staying the way it was is no guarantee of its future success
61
02/02/2021 15:56:30 2 4
bbc
I hear that the next proposal is that all golfers must be between 5'9½" and 5'10" tall.
68
02/02/2021 15:59:31 2 0
bbc
5'9" was once said to be the optimum height for golfers.

How wrong they were ...
46
02/02/2021 15:50:31 1 1
bbc
What length is allowed for the 6’ 9” tall golfer? We’re not all Ian Woosnams!
62
02/02/2021 15:56:45 0 0
bbc
6'9" people have arms that are long in proportion to their body.

Everybody's hands hang to mid-thigh whether they're tall or short.
38
02/02/2021 15:47:07 13 3
bbc
Typical meely mouth response from R&A.
All those advocating more and more driving boomers are making places like St. Andrews redundant as world class courses requiring guile and skill.
We need to make courses harder too. Lets have some deep rough and narrow fairways.
63
02/02/2021 15:56:51 6 0
bbc
St. Andrews has always been fairly easy for the pros in calm weather. Ah, but when the wind blows the further you hit it, the more trouble you will be in!
137
02/02/2021 16:31:25 1 1
bbc
Take an idea from Athletics when javelins were going too far change the eqpt
304
02/02/2021 18:43:29 0 0
bbc
What are you saying? Play The Open in April?

Apart from the 1st, 17th & 18th St Andrews Old is an unremarkable course. Plenty of others I prefer to play.
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02/02/2021 15:57:10 4 2
bbc
Have already commented on getting the rough up but how hard would it be to get a couple of bulldozers out on the courses and dig those fairway bunkers crazy deep?

Let them hit the ball far but if you end up in them you have to come out sideways or even backwards:

It would all make for a cracking spectacle going down the stretch on Sunday.
536
03/02/2021 18:25:10 0 0
bbc
Agree - bunkers have become non-penal for today's pros. In fact, most of the time they would rather be in a perfectly groomed bunker (and why are they perfectly groomed if it's meant to be a penalty area) than in the adjacent rough. Start making bunkers a penalty again.
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02/02/2021 15:57:14 1 0
bbc
If this change does not happen then major courses will have to be redesigned to include more dog-legs and strategically placed water. I like Happy Gilmore but that was meant to be a comedy - not a reality
81
02/02/2021 16:06:00 1 0
bbc
Tap-Tap-Taparoo :-)
107
02/02/2021 16:17:48 1 0
bbc
unfortunately dog legs just favour the longer hitters even more as they just hit it over the corner
it's the balls that need to be changed
52
02/02/2021 15:52:35 139 4
bbc
Accuracy rather than distance off the tee needs to be better rewarded: most courses on the PGA Tour have fairways three times too wide, bunkers that are not deep or steep enough & non-existent rough. It's tedious watching scores of 20-25 under par every other week. It's almost as bad for the game as the morons who used to (and presumably soon will again) scream "get in the hoooollllle!"
66
02/02/2021 15:57:19 18 2
bbc
Fully agree
67
02/02/2021 15:59:19 38 0
bbc
The horse has long since bolted. Our course isn’t 30yrs old yet and already the fairway bunkers are irrelevant for the good players. This sort of thinking was needed in the early 90’s to protect the integrity of the game. You don’t see titanium cricket bats do you? Go figure.
89
02/02/2021 16:09:57 32 0
bbc
> You don’t see titanium cricket bats do you?

We did see metal ones for a while if you recall. They were soon banned
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02/02/2021 17:14:55 3 0
bbc
QUITE true
Our course was built in 1912 and then the hazards affected the good players
Now the good players can fly the traps by 50/75 yards.
Its only the high handicappers that have problem
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02/02/2021 18:12:47 1 0
bbc
Nah, but they do look like railway sleepers these days!

I’m not into golf at all but find great interest in this discussion as it is similar to big hitting batsmen in cricket.

What used to be a massive venue in Victorian times is now not that big. In an era of sports science making stronger athletes, the only option to address this is by somehow limiting the club/bat’s hitting power.
61
02/02/2021 15:56:30 2 4
bbc
I hear that the next proposal is that all golfers must be between 5'9½" and 5'10" tall.
68
02/02/2021 15:59:31 2 0
bbc
5'9" was once said to be the optimum height for golfers.

How wrong they were ...
69
02/02/2021 15:59:50 4 2
bbc
Why doesn't the maximum shaft length apply to putters? Are they happy for Langer etc to keep cheating?
Bryson already hits it 350 with a 46" shaft so making the maximum 48" isn't a big deal.
Allowing "committees" (how delightfully English golf club) to limit clubs & balls is a nice way for the authorities to abdicate responsibility and avoid litigation.
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JSP
02/02/2021 16:00:28 14 1
bbc
Narrow the fairways, lengthen the rough in the landing areas, problem solved. Reed and Mcilroy both went into long grass at the weekend and got (ho hum oh er look the other way gov) drops for embedded balls. They don't like long grass.
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02/02/2021 16:32:30 8 0
bbc
Its about grading the rough. Bryson won the US Open - thats meant to have the worst rough of all. But if people are penalised the same for missing a fairway by a yard as they are missing a fairway by a hole and a half, then its always worth going as long as possible
352
02/02/2021 19:41:57 1 0
bbc
Its been a while since I was able to play, but I don't remember anyone allowing me to have a free drop when I hit it into the long grass! Maybe the pros should observe the same rules as the rest of us.
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02/02/2021 16:01:22 6 1
bbc
We saw how all his raw power and bulked up body got him in Augusta. He was nothing more than an also ran. Golf was never meant to be a game about hammering a ball 350 plus yards down the fairway with all the subtle of a bulldozer. Golf is about finesse and touch. Ball technology needs to be curbed also as it is changing the dynamic of the sport.
83
02/02/2021 16:07:10 1 3
bbc
Since he bulked up he has played 2 Majors, and won 1.

You are not impressed with that record?
145
02/02/2021 16:34:55 1 0
bbc
DJ hits the ball miles as well. He won pretty comfortably at Augusta. Its not just BDC
72
02/02/2021 16:01:42 12 4
bbc
Why can’t they do the same with those ridiculous putters?
325
02/02/2021 19:06:43 1 0
bbc
and how many top golfers use those 'ridiculous' putters?
47
02/02/2021 15:51:02 2 2
bbc
Too little too late. Reactionary rule making after the horse had bolted. Maybe they need to concentrate on speeding the game up rather than this nonsense
73
02/02/2021 16:01:44 0 0
bbc
But wouldn't making rules to speed the game up be reactionary? For interest both have to be looked at in the best interests of the game.
147
02/02/2021 16:35:53 2 0
bbc
Nope, penalising slow play with penalty shots which cost a pro money will get rid of that overnight
44
02/02/2021 15:49:24 31 0
bbc
I'm with you guys
74
02/02/2021 16:01:55 3 4
bbc
Not the answer. Dechambeau didn't care about hitting it into the rough at the US open. A wedge out of the rough is simple to the pros. Must limit length. It a different game hitting 6 or 7 irons into greens.
143
02/02/2021 16:33:30 2 0
bbc
Hole wide bunkers and more water. Faldo keeps talking about limiting the tee height too, which I think has potential.
46
02/02/2021 15:50:31 1 1
bbc
What length is allowed for the 6’ 9” tall golfer? We’re not all Ian Woosnams!
75
02/02/2021 16:01:56 1 0
bbc
Both George archer and Peter Oosterhuis stood 6'6" tall.

Archer was a Masters champion and Oosterhuis won 4 consecutive orders of merit. Many other tall golfers have had great careers with regular wins.
76
02/02/2021 16:02:42 23 0
bbc
Just make the penalty for missing the fairway more severe. Nobody is going to risk hitting the ball 360 yards if a missed fairway could cost you two shots but while they can hit it in the rough and then wedge it onto the green and still birdie the hole it's a gamble worth taking.
Severe rough and don't water the greens.

No rule changes needed.
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02/02/2021 16:05:18 0 0
bbc
Great finally golf will be faster and more fun than endless waits for morons who have no swing lots of hit and zero class they bring nothing to golf.
Learn the course thus where to hit it , find it go play to again
Who cares ....
What matters more is the pathetic repugnant cow- towing to the BLM hysteria.
I noticed the disgusting message on the bottom of the leader board .
I just hope they put it up for the next tournament in Chicago ... where in one weekend ... 50 homicides blacks on black .
Same with the premier league pathetically politically correct .
Removed
78
02/02/2021 16:05:26 0 0
bbc
It's kowtowing.
79
02/02/2021 16:05:46 0 2
bbc
Silly game
141
02/02/2021 16:33:05 2 0
bbc
Ignorant comment
80
02/02/2021 16:05:56 1 1
bbc
Bring back the good old Balata Golf Ball, then let’s see how far and how good the Pro’s are. Golf is about skill, not how you can hit a ball.
86
02/02/2021 16:08:35 6 0
bbc
Isn't the skill of golf precisely defined by how (well) you hit the ball?
65
02/02/2021 15:57:14 1 0
bbc
If this change does not happen then major courses will have to be redesigned to include more dog-legs and strategically placed water. I like Happy Gilmore but that was meant to be a comedy - not a reality
81
02/02/2021 16:06:00 1 0
bbc
Tap-Tap-Taparoo :-)
82
02/02/2021 16:06:25 2 1
bbc
If they had not removed all the rough on golf courses the big hitters would have not gained such a big advantage
337
02/02/2021 19:18:05 0 0
bbc
Not so, De Chambeau won the US Open last year even when the rough was very penal. Better to hit out of the rough with a wedge than a mid iron.

Now designing courses smarter by using hazards is strategic places with narrow fairway necks, trees, etc might be the way forward. More risk and reward would make the game more interesting as well.
71
02/02/2021 16:01:22 6 1
bbc
We saw how all his raw power and bulked up body got him in Augusta. He was nothing more than an also ran. Golf was never meant to be a game about hammering a ball 350 plus yards down the fairway with all the subtle of a bulldozer. Golf is about finesse and touch. Ball technology needs to be curbed also as it is changing the dynamic of the sport.
83
02/02/2021 16:07:10 1 3
bbc
Since he bulked up he has played 2 Majors, and won 1.

You are not impressed with that record?
84
02/02/2021 16:07:21 3 1
bbc
I think it's inevitable the authorities would have to bring in restrictions to limit the distance a ball travels. On average there is one yard gain every year, does not sound a lot, but during the last 40 years that's 40yds.

Restricting the distance the ball travels by having a 'tournament' ball makes sense as does limiting the length of the shaft. It's been a long time coming - let's do it.
10
02/02/2021 15:09:42 2 2
bbc
Golf is a point to point game, it is no good being able to hit it 300+ yards if you can't get it in the hole in less shots than your opponents.
85
02/02/2021 16:08:14 6 0
bbc
... *fewer* shots .... perleeez ??
152
02/02/2021 16:37:39 2 0
bbc
Please
80
02/02/2021 16:05:56 1 1
bbc
Bring back the good old Balata Golf Ball, then let’s see how far and how good the Pro’s are. Golf is about skill, not how you can hit a ball.
86
02/02/2021 16:08:35 6 0
bbc
Isn't the skill of golf precisely defined by how (well) you hit the ball?
87
02/02/2021 16:09:11 0 0
bbc
Why not use square balls off the tee and then change to round ones for anything but tee shots? That'll cut down the distance achieved from a tee shot. Probably a stupid idea but then ball technology and club design seems to be too far in advance of course design. Cricket, athletics, swimming and many other sports have come up with ways to restrict technological advances. Golf lagging behind still.
88
02/02/2021 16:09:36 0 2
bbc
It's pretty simple really, just go and watch the LPGA if long driving offend you.
67
02/02/2021 15:59:19 38 0
bbc
The horse has long since bolted. Our course isn’t 30yrs old yet and already the fairway bunkers are irrelevant for the good players. This sort of thinking was needed in the early 90’s to protect the integrity of the game. You don’t see titanium cricket bats do you? Go figure.
89
02/02/2021 16:09:57 32 0
bbc
> You don’t see titanium cricket bats do you?

We did see metal ones for a while if you recall. They were soon banned
123
02/02/2021 16:23:40 2 0
bbc
Dennis Lillee had one !
90
02/02/2021 16:11:24 2 0
bbc
There should be some advantage to being able to hit it far, that's a skill in itself. There needs to be a bigger penalty for being off line though
102
02/02/2021 16:16:18 4 0
bbc
That sums it up exactly. If you can hit the ball 350 yards straight why should you be penalised because others can,t? At the same time if you hit it 350 yards not straight it should be difficult to recover. Most bunkers are a waste of time and the “rough” on most US courses is pointless.
331
02/02/2021 19:13:36 0 0
bbc
If the distance the ball went was reduced by say 10% then the long hitters would still have an advantage over the shorter hitters. Golf has always been an advantage to long hitters.
91
02/02/2021 16:11:33 0 1
bbc
I don't understand what all the fuss is about. The way the R&A and USGA go on they'll have everyone off hickory shafts and feather balls again. Surely all they have to do is make the conditions more difficult ie. Tighter fairways, thicker rough, fairway bunkers that actually have a bit of depth and slightly softer sand so it penalises the players.
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02/02/2021 16:11:51 1 0
bbc
Links rough will take care of Bryson. The US are the ones with the issue. Grow tress and Augusta like plants and you take away the big hitters advantage. USGA rough is a complete joke and offers no deterent to the likes of Bryson
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02/02/2021 16:16:55 1 0
bbc
Agreed - the courses are set up to keep the american big hitting players in the game. Example being the 2018 Ryder Cup set up which effectively took the big hitting ‘advantage’ away.
93
02/02/2021 16:12:13 1 2
bbc
Bring back 606!
161
02/02/2021 16:41:13 1 0
bbc
I kept getting banned off that excellent site. The Indian cricket fans made sure of that.
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02/02/2021 16:12:17 0 0
bbc
P1
The further you hit it further the wider it goes...therefore make the miss more penal. The long driver is a bit of a myth...most pros want to hit it straight and a 43/ 44 inch driver shaft generally strikes the best distance / accuracy balance...and this certainly applies to club golfers. The long shaft is a manufacturers selling myth because distance is 'sexy' and sells.
330
02/02/2021 19:11:59 0 0
bbc
Fair points, but the club golfer is not the problem. Even with long rough the tour player will usually opt for a driver on the longer holes. Easier to extract a wedge out of long rough than a mid iron.
95
02/02/2021 16:12:40 9 1
bbc
And yet the 123 yard Postage Stamp 8th hole at Troon averages over par (3.09) in the Open Championship! Let's stop pretending US courses in the sunshine states are a challenge for pro golfers, they're basically spectacles for a TV audience. The R&A should let the USGA turn the PGA tour into driving contest, remember the 'champion golfer of the year' is crowned on the British links in the wind.
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02/02/2021 16:13:05 2 6
bbc
I thought the idea was to get the ball done in the least shots possible. Purists poking their nose in again.Let's all stop sprinters running less than 10 secs or make the goals twice the size so teams like Liverpool can score easier.
Well done Bryson
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02/02/2021 16:13:31 0 1
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There are specific regulations for golf balls that are supposedly altered for just this scenario, have they reached the limits on that or are there other reasons?
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02/02/2021 16:13:50 4 0
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This is all really part of a bigger picture with technology. Bigger sweet spots on drivers and tennis rackets reward the athlete and make it harder for the less athletic and more skilful. Ballesteros complained about this years ago.
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02/02/2021 16:18:48 1 0
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Indeed. And Tiger Woods - the outstanding ball striker of his generation - also commented on what a great leveller club & ball technology has been.
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02/02/2021 16:13:53 8 0
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Agree with the driver length, but I think ball tech is the only way to go here. These guys hit 6 irons 240 yards, 9 irons 175 yards etc, it's crazy! Non pros, we can keep using our chrome softs and Pro V1s, but pros in pro competitions have to use a ball type that limits distance. Golf on tv is just too far from the reality that most of us play every week.
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02/02/2021 16:46:21 1 1
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Unlike other sport on tv - football, tennis, rugby, snooker, skiing, cricket, athletics.....etc - which look just like the amateur game !? Pro sportsmen are really good at their sports. Not that surprising, its why we pay to watch them
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02/02/2021 16:14:35 1 3
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Make fairways narrower. Make greens smaller. Leave clubs and balls the way they are. Skilled players will always find a way.