Online gambling faces fresh restrictions
02/02/2021 | news | business | 245
A new package of measures is designed to make online casino games less intensive and safer.
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02/02/2021 10:20:07 93 15
bbc
Nowhere near far enough, need to roll back the legislative changes introduced by Blair. Ban gambling advertising and black out bookies windows once more.
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02/02/2021 10:56:27 45 13
bbc
We need to roll back pretty much everything that Blair did!
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02/02/2021 11:23:49 19 7
bbc
Fourteen years since Blair was PM, yet you're still blaming him for UK government policy.

How incredibly weak.
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PCS
02/02/2021 23:54:33 0 0
bbc
Stop all online gambling, by all means keep the shops open in the high street but restrict licencing laws opening times.
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02/02/2021 10:23:39 9 5
bbc
75% tax on all gambling firms.

Every single penny spent by the NHS on people with gambling addiction should come entirely from gambling company profits as well.
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02/02/2021 10:23:45 13 7
bbc
You know your a moron if you gamble on an app that 'celebrates losses as wins'.
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02/02/2021 10:27:56 14 0
bbc
It is an addiction and like all addictions very difficult to control.
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02/02/2021 10:26:32 18 15
bbc
Simply ban on line gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:00:57 2 7
bbc
Sure, then what next? Ban no-line shopping because it's too easy to spend money, and it's taking business away from the High street?

Where does it end? Now we've left the EU, we've got less freedom a huge raft of extra rules to worry about. The last thing we need is govt banning things, leaving us with even less freedom and loads more more rules!
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02/02/2021 11:08:45 1 0
bbc
How do you ban online bookmakers based in CHINA or INDIA for example?!

Banning it in the UK will mean people will LOSE their money to foreign bookmakers instead of UK bookmakers!
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02/02/2021 10:28:30 9 11
bbc
Gambling has always been a mug's game, but these online gambling companies have weaponised the process meaning that people are encouraged to gamble faster and more intensely and therefore lose more money, more quickly.

These measures don't go far enough - online gambling is a cancer in society.
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02/02/2021 10:28:41 7 15
bbc
As usual the Tories give them plenty of time to find loopholes or new ways to do the same.
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02/02/2021 10:56:08 2 3
bbc
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Labour had anything to do with the current situation, is it (Gambling Act 2005)?
But why let facts get in the way, if you get an opportunity for an unwarranted dig at sensible idea.
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02/02/2021 10:29:49 27 7
bbc
If they quite rightly curb online gambling then those gambling will be buying a handful of £5/£10 lottery stratchers.

Yet the National Lottery is classed as ok ?

Gamblers will always gamble.
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02/02/2021 11:23:21 19 3
bbc
This is very true, but at least some of it will go to charity and not ALL to big business bookies.
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02/02/2021 13:00:11 2 1
bbc
National lottery is ok as they wont get the instant gratification of a slot machine. Think I agree about scratch cards.
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03/02/2021 22:22:33 0 0
bbc
i think the way car drivers drive these days you need to gamble to walk over the road?
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02/02/2021 10:30:25 42 7
bbc
Only one side wins, stay away from it if you can !!!
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02/02/2021 10:31:12 9 13
bbc
Brass Eye
10:20
"Nowhere near far enough, need to roll back the legislative changes introduced by Blair. Ban gambling advertising and black out bookies windows once more".

I am sorry but that is a total overreaction, putting sponsorship on team shirts or anything else is not going to make you rush out and have a bet, you might as well ban advertising of any sort, there goes ITV,Ch4,Sky etc etc.
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02/02/2021 10:55:02 4 2
bbc
Why advertise at all if it doesn't make you bet?
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02/02/2021 10:23:45 13 7
bbc
You know your a moron if you gamble on an app that 'celebrates losses as wins'.
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02/02/2021 10:27:56 14 0
bbc
It is an addiction and like all addictions very difficult to control.
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02/02/2021 10:35:48 42 7
bbc
As a kid I remember being told when asking about the 'bookies', You don't see a bookie on a bike

I understood, the bookie always wins
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02/02/2021 12:51:45 16 0
bbc
Yeah taking everyone for a ride!.
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02/02/2021 17:59:42 1 0
bbc
And Casinos don't go bust, unless they are owned by Trump.
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03/02/2021 22:20:26 0 0
bbc
its only if you want to pay towards his bike?
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02/02/2021 10:36:50 8 2
bbc
I bet this doen`t work
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02/02/2021 10:41:57 31 11
bbc
Gambling has become the scourge of society and as always it impacts the poorest and most vulnerable most. The only winners are the gambling websites as everything is stacked in their favour. Have you ever met a poor bookie? Sadly gambling is like alcoholism in that it is an illness and it has a huge impact on families where young children go hungry for the gambler to his/her habit.
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KL
02/02/2021 10:46:02 18 43
bbc
Nonsense. Gambling is like having a drink; most people enjoy it safely and have some fun. For a very small number of people gambling can get out of control like alcohol can and that's where the problems are.
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02/02/2021 10:44:11 7 3
bbc
Gambling makes money for the government to squander on pally contracts. VAT and income tax. Government motto is always...show you are doing things but do nothing.
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02/02/2021 10:41:57 31 11
bbc
Gambling has become the scourge of society and as always it impacts the poorest and most vulnerable most. The only winners are the gambling websites as everything is stacked in their favour. Have you ever met a poor bookie? Sadly gambling is like alcoholism in that it is an illness and it has a huge impact on families where young children go hungry for the gambler to his/her habit.
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KL
02/02/2021 10:46:02 18 43
bbc
Nonsense. Gambling is like having a drink; most people enjoy it safely and have some fun. For a very small number of people gambling can get out of control like alcohol can and that's where the problems are.
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02/02/2021 19:10:57 0 0
bbc
Shows the mentality of HYS when a sensible post gets 38 downvotes.

Ultimately, you should know what you are getting into with gambling on stuff like FOBTs or virtual sports, yet it always amazes me seeing people in shops or forums genuinely believing they have a "system" or "tactics" to beat a game of 100% random chance.

The bookies can't legislate for people being thick!

(Cue the downvotes...)
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CJ
02/02/2021 10:47:01 3 4
bbc
Stop the National Lottery online scratch cards that actually encourage gambling! £5 PLUS some of them!
Make a limit of one online National Lottery draw ticket per draw or per week. No multiple week playing. Phrases like IT COULD BE YOU do encourage people to try.
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02/02/2021 10:51:54 5 6
bbc
Reporting elsewhere indicates that the average user spends around £67 per month on this form of gambling. In the old days we had horse racing, betting at the bookies or track, football pools and bingo. It was enough. Slots and table gambling was the preserve of member-only casinos. Let's regulate this on-line curse out of business, as it is of no benefit to society and mostly affects the poor.
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02/02/2021 10:54:48 3 3
bbc
a creeping silent scourge, owner pay the most amount of tax, very depressing stat
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02/02/2021 10:31:12 9 13
bbc
Brass Eye
10:20
"Nowhere near far enough, need to roll back the legislative changes introduced by Blair. Ban gambling advertising and black out bookies windows once more".

I am sorry but that is a total overreaction, putting sponsorship on team shirts or anything else is not going to make you rush out and have a bet, you might as well ban advertising of any sort, there goes ITV,Ch4,Sky etc etc.
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02/02/2021 10:55:02 4 2
bbc
Why advertise at all if it doesn't make you bet?
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02/02/2021 10:28:41 7 15
bbc
As usual the Tories give them plenty of time to find loopholes or new ways to do the same.
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02/02/2021 10:56:08 2 3
bbc
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Labour had anything to do with the current situation, is it (Gambling Act 2005)?
But why let facts get in the way, if you get an opportunity for an unwarranted dig at sensible idea.
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02/02/2021 11:19:09 1 1
bbc
You're going to lose your mind when you find out no government binds another and the Tories came to power in 2010. At least they're doing something about it right now though and not say introducing it in say 9 months time.

Tory dithering becoming a bit of a habit, Grenfell cladding, Covid measures, the only thing they seem quick to act on is dishing out contracts to mates at extortionate rates..
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02/02/2021 10:58:12 6 10
bbc
People on here trying to equate National Lottery scratchcards with online gambling.

That's just rubbish.

You can lose £100s in minutes online and the profits flow out of the UK straight into some low-tax offshore account.

At least Lottery scratchcards end up doing some limited good via National Lottery projects.
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02/02/2021 10:58:59 19 4
bbc
Given the huge increase in advertising for all kinds of betting from bingo to football over the last decade or so it's hardly surprising that there's been a huge upswing in problem gambling.

Couple that with the fact that 'gamble aware' is run by the betting industry

It was all rather predictable.
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02/02/2021 10:26:32 18 15
bbc
Simply ban on line gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:00:57 2 7
bbc
Sure, then what next? Ban no-line shopping because it's too easy to spend money, and it's taking business away from the High street?

Where does it end? Now we've left the EU, we've got less freedom a huge raft of extra rules to worry about. The last thing we need is govt banning things, leaving us with even less freedom and loads more more rules!
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02/02/2021 10:55:50 5 5
bbc
Excellent. The internet has now become more of a force for bad than good. Tine to rein it in.
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02/02/2021 11:06:58 2 2
bbc
It sure destroyed the high street and a load of jobs.
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02/02/2021 10:20:07 93 15
bbc
Nowhere near far enough, need to roll back the legislative changes introduced by Blair. Ban gambling advertising and black out bookies windows once more.
25
02/02/2021 10:56:27 45 13
bbc
We need to roll back pretty much everything that Blair did!
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DG
02/02/2021 11:10:10 4 2
bbc
This should include removing the D Notice Blair put on the pedophile investigation thus stopping Operation Ore (includes pedo's in public office and a prominent UK figure)
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02/02/2021 11:24:29 3 1
bbc
Bit late for Thatcher and Co
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02/02/2021 12:57:43 1 1
bbc
Agreed.. sadly too late with his going to war decision..
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02/02/2021 11:02:45 8 1
bbc
Outside of financial services, the gambling industry has been the biggest donor to the Conservative party over the last 3 general elections.

It's not difficult to see why the government seems to fight so hard against any meaningful regulation of the new generation online gambling sector.
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02/02/2021 11:03:16 9 0
bbc
These new recent announcements by the GC are to be welcomed but they could have and should have brought them in years ago. They always seem to be behind the curve. They should also bring in mandatory deposit limits, esp for 18-30 yrs and compel gambling companies to undertake more rigourous affordability checks.
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02/02/2021 11:04:26 20 6
bbc
Fortunes being made of people addicted to this type of crack cocaine.
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DG
02/02/2021 11:06:04 44 8
bbc
The biggest mistake was when the Government allowed Gambling adverts on TV and Radio. This should be stopped, especially when there are so many struggling and may be tempted to gamble (and more often than not, lose)
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02/02/2021 11:11:42 39 1
bbc
And like tobacco sponsorship was banned in F1, gambling sponsorship should be purged from football.

A good chunk of the Premier league have a title sponsor of a betting company.
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02/02/2021 11:06:12 13 3
bbc
Putting restrictions and banning gambling will just mean people will use foreign bookies with even less regulation.

PLUS all the losses (gamblers ALWAYS lose) will go out of the UK.

The key is EDUCATION.

Helping addicts.

And making sure people know that gambling is a loser's sport.

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02/02/2021 11:12:50 7 3
bbc
How about, you know, doing both? A fair chunk of people WON'T use foreign bookies, and for the rest we can do education. Since some people won't now become addicted, there will be more money to help the rest.
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02/02/2021 11:59:21 1 2
bbc
And you really think the profits from gambling companies actually stay in the UK anyway - or that any taxes are paid here?
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02/02/2021 10:55:50 5 5
bbc
Excellent. The internet has now become more of a force for bad than good. Tine to rein it in.
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02/02/2021 11:06:58 2 2
bbc
It sure destroyed the high street and a load of jobs.
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02/02/2021 10:26:32 18 15
bbc
Simply ban on line gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:08:45 1 0
bbc
How do you ban online bookmakers based in CHINA or INDIA for example?!

Banning it in the UK will mean people will LOSE their money to foreign bookmakers instead of UK bookmakers!
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02/02/2021 10:56:27 45 13
bbc
We need to roll back pretty much everything that Blair did!
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DG
02/02/2021 11:10:10 4 2
bbc
This should include removing the D Notice Blair put on the pedophile investigation thus stopping Operation Ore (includes pedo's in public office and a prominent UK figure)
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02/02/2021 11:10:58 3 1
bbc
Time to limit spend to £10 a day, Anyone who is playing for fun, the stake doesn't make any difference. Anyone playing to "make money", you won't make money in the long run. And if you do, the gambling site will restrict your bets anyway.

No need at all for any gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:12:41 2 3
bbc
People will just use foreign betting sites.

And all the losses (and therefore UK tax revenue) will flow out of the UK.
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DG
02/02/2021 11:06:04 44 8
bbc
The biggest mistake was when the Government allowed Gambling adverts on TV and Radio. This should be stopped, especially when there are so many struggling and may be tempted to gamble (and more often than not, lose)
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02/02/2021 11:11:42 39 1
bbc
And like tobacco sponsorship was banned in F1, gambling sponsorship should be purged from football.

A good chunk of the Premier league have a title sponsor of a betting company.
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02/02/2021 11:12:09 24 4
bbc
Where evidence shows that some activities are likely to be harmful to a lot of the public there is a need for legal regulation. eg Alcohol, drugs and gambling. Increased advertising on TV for gambling firms suggests to the public that it is OK to spend money this way. Easy to use on line access means Addiction has increased for men and women. ALL gambling adverts should be banned.
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02/02/2021 11:12:26 21 6
bbc
People who support on-line gambling support impoverishment of the poor. They are either part of the gambling industry, beneficiaries of their largesse (i.e football clubs/advertisers/politcal parties) or the unfortunate addicts of this curse themselves.
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02/02/2021 11:10:58 3 1
bbc
Time to limit spend to £10 a day, Anyone who is playing for fun, the stake doesn't make any difference. Anyone playing to "make money", you won't make money in the long run. And if you do, the gambling site will restrict your bets anyway.

No need at all for any gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:12:41 2 3
bbc
People will just use foreign betting sites.

And all the losses (and therefore UK tax revenue) will flow out of the UK.
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02/02/2021 12:01:28 0 0
bbc
Some of the big "British" gambling companies are already foreign-owned. Most of the "British" gambling companies are registered in tax havens.

There is precious little tax revenue for the UK as it is.
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02/02/2021 11:06:12 13 3
bbc
Putting restrictions and banning gambling will just mean people will use foreign bookies with even less regulation.

PLUS all the losses (gamblers ALWAYS lose) will go out of the UK.

The key is EDUCATION.

Helping addicts.

And making sure people know that gambling is a loser's sport.

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02/02/2021 11:12:50 7 3
bbc
How about, you know, doing both? A fair chunk of people WON'T use foreign bookies, and for the rest we can do education. Since some people won't now become addicted, there will be more money to help the rest.
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02/02/2021 11:01:46 20 5
bbc
Gambling hits the poor, the vulnerable, hardest.

It is a cancer in our society, the spores of which were released into our communities a few years ago.

For every 'happy' or 'responsible' experience, there are many, many divorces, domestic violence, and broken people.
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02/02/2021 11:15:08 64 6
bbc
I cannot believe what the gambling industry has been allowed to get away with in this country. As an addiction gambling is worse than alcoholism. Gambling destroys the lives not only of the compulsive gambler but of his or her family as well.

Snooker, football, darts, cricket, it’s everywhere. An immediate ban on advertising should be the minimum, as is a total ban on online gambling.

Enough!!!
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02/02/2021 11:25:32 31 1
bbc
The 20 and 30 something males are the worst. The guys I worked with were obsessed with gambling, more than with the sport itself. Complicated bets involving multiple sports on one bet was a favourite. Huge odds 'IF' they won. Most lost their cash of course.
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02/02/2021 13:33:43 1 4
bbc
What do you do for fun ? Knitting!!!
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02/02/2021 15:59:46 0 1
bbc
Everything, if taken to extremes, can be of harm. Some people will become problem gamblers in the same way that others become alcoholics, chronic smokers, morbidly obese or drug abusers. By all means, curb the excesses but don't penalise all for the effects on a few.
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02/02/2021 17:23:56 1 1
bbc
gamblers are poor ickle pickles who should be given cotton wool and given a page of approved nasty words that they can use towards the gambling industry

"howwible, howwible companies", for example
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02/02/2021 11:17:41 26 8
bbc
There is only one winner and it's not the punter.

On-line gambling should be banned to protect the foolish, naive, inadequate, easily lead etc.
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02/02/2021 11:22:14 10 17
bbc
agree but surely also the brexiters as well? your description rang a bell....
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02/02/2021 11:17:45 38 7
bbc
There are far too many TV Online Gambling Ads being shown before the watershed. Each of the adverts try to convince people that gambling is fun & they all end with "When the Fun Stops, Stop!" Try telling that to a gambler who believes that just one more bet will solve their problem. Sorry but they are not your friends, they are banks of Servers based in Gibraltar. This needs tighter controls
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02/02/2021 11:18:55 10 1
bbc
I hope football looks in the mirror @ itself ?
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02/02/2021 10:56:08 2 3
bbc
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Labour had anything to do with the current situation, is it (Gambling Act 2005)?
But why let facts get in the way, if you get an opportunity for an unwarranted dig at sensible idea.
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02/02/2021 11:19:09 1 1
bbc
You're going to lose your mind when you find out no government binds another and the Tories came to power in 2010. At least they're doing something about it right now though and not say introducing it in say 9 months time.

Tory dithering becoming a bit of a habit, Grenfell cladding, Covid measures, the only thing they seem quick to act on is dishing out contracts to mates at extortionate rates..
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02/02/2021 11:22:04 39 7
bbc
Ban advertising on gambling. The ads portray attractive young things having great times together gambling on a sunny day. The reality falls short in most respects.
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02/02/2021 11:17:41 26 8
bbc
There is only one winner and it's not the punter.

On-line gambling should be banned to protect the foolish, naive, inadequate, easily lead etc.
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02/02/2021 11:22:14 10 17
bbc
agree but surely also the brexiters as well? your description rang a bell....
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02/02/2021 12:38:13 3 2
bbc
How sad you are.
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02/02/2021 11:22:51 8 3
bbc
We relaxed alcohol regulation by allowing sales through supermarkets and gave pubs extended opening, causing an increase in alcoholism and death, particularly amongst the poor. We increased regulation of smoking through increases in tax, reduced advertising and reduced availability to provide a massive improvement in health, particularly amongst the poor. Now lets tackle the gambling industry.
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02/02/2021 11:22:58 4 5
bbc
Easy solution. Ban online gambling completely as a hazard to health and a National danger. Oh, but the Govt gains a huge amount of TAX from it......I bet that tax doesn't go to the NHS or any other support service for addicts......or is that just me ??
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02/02/2021 11:36:39 0 2
bbc
It's just you.

You need to look beyond half a tomato season, and the facts, to see who does / did what, when etc.
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02/02/2021 10:29:49 27 7
bbc
If they quite rightly curb online gambling then those gambling will be buying a handful of £5/£10 lottery stratchers.

Yet the National Lottery is classed as ok ?

Gamblers will always gamble.
50
02/02/2021 11:23:21 19 3
bbc
This is very true, but at least some of it will go to charity and not ALL to big business bookies.
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02/02/2021 11:23:22 0 4
bbc
These people will find other ways to ruin their (and more importantly) others lives. Same with the types that can't control their debts on places like Klarna. Pfft... pathetic really.
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02/02/2021 10:20:07 93 15
bbc
Nowhere near far enough, need to roll back the legislative changes introduced by Blair. Ban gambling advertising and black out bookies windows once more.
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02/02/2021 11:23:49 19 7
bbc
Fourteen years since Blair was PM, yet you're still blaming him for UK government policy.

How incredibly weak.
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02/02/2021 13:55:50 3 3
bbc
Blair introduced FoM. Which led directly to Brexit. Thank you Labour, for gifting us leavers an exit from the EU.
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02/02/2021 18:46:36 1 1
bbc
Except it wasn't really just Blair, it was Blairism, which continued up to the end of 2019 when power finally changed hands away from the reigning Blairites.

David Cameron and Theresa May continued Blair's policies, with an open door, being pro-EU, encouraging property prices to keep climbing and wages to stay suppressed.

Blair ruined everything for millennials and gen Z.
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02/02/2021 10:56:27 45 13
bbc
We need to roll back pretty much everything that Blair did!
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02/02/2021 11:24:29 3 1
bbc
Bit late for Thatcher and Co
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02/02/2021 11:45:44 8 10
bbc
See Diana Moon Glampers post above...

Fourteen years since Blair was PM, yet you're still blaming him for UK government policy.

How incredibly weak.

___

Lefties eh ?
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02/02/2021 12:18:07 13 8
bbc
Mrs Thatcher was marvelous. Started from good lower middle class stock, was a highly qualified Industrial chemist. First woman PM. Smashed the dinosaur unions thus dragging UK into 20th century. Fought a brief war that was actually justified and had an achievable end purpose. And her main philosphy was to enable people to take responsibility for themselves.
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02/02/2021 11:15:08 64 6
bbc
I cannot believe what the gambling industry has been allowed to get away with in this country. As an addiction gambling is worse than alcoholism. Gambling destroys the lives not only of the compulsive gambler but of his or her family as well.

Snooker, football, darts, cricket, it’s everywhere. An immediate ban on advertising should be the minimum, as is a total ban on online gambling.

Enough!!!
54
02/02/2021 11:25:32 31 1
bbc
The 20 and 30 something males are the worst. The guys I worked with were obsessed with gambling, more than with the sport itself. Complicated bets involving multiple sports on one bet was a favourite. Huge odds 'IF' they won. Most lost their cash of course.
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02/02/2021 11:24:30 53 12
bbc
just total BAN online gambling, and STOP all advertising of it.
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02/02/2021 12:59:12 10 17
bbc
Why though. See Denise Coates has just paid £573m in tax. Sure there are problem gamblers but are we then going to ban food adverts next. I’m sure Mac Donald’s may contribute to more I’ll health than gambling. Do do do do der I’m loving it.......
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02/02/2021 13:08:33 0 0
bbc
...and open up the Speak-Easys
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02/02/2021 13:32:17 2 1
bbc
Then the majority suffer for the minority? Whats next ban pubs to save alcoholics?
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RC
02/02/2021 11:26:17 9 0
bbc
The quantities of money lost by people who can ill afford to lose it is incredible. Great to see measures being introduced which will at least curb these loses for people. The gambling industry has taken a hold of a vast quantities of people with it always ending in misery for the end user.
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02/02/2021 11:26:22 4 5
bbc
Alcohol, tobacco and drugs are adjuncts to life and can be reduced with effort, focus and money.
Gambling is innate in folks and is used in decisions we make, day to day. Professional sugar-coated 'gaming' is virtual theft and relies on a fake association with glamour, sex and self-esteem.
HMG sponsors and benefits greatly from gambling and is directly responsible for any failures it produces.
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02/02/2021 11:35:08 2 4
bbc
Poppycock, one eyed poppycock.

Mr. Blair (Labour) opened the floodgates, now we have a Tory pushing the gates back a little.

But in any case, anyone look backwards, thinking their 1 Party is wonderful, always, all the time, isn't the solution.

To anything.
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02/02/2021 11:29:53 27 6
bbc
There have always been people who are addicted to gambling. The main problem these days is it is far to easy to lose track of reality.

Years ago it was restricted to bookies, bingo and football pools. You had to have the physical cash to do it.

Now it’s all online, credit cards and gambling accounts. A virtual world separate from reality. Reality only hits home when the debts spiral.
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KL
02/02/2021 11:33:14 3 9
bbc
The many advocates for the nanny state on here need to get some perspective. Whatever problems you had with gambling yourself is not representative of the vast majority of people who gamble. More than 50% of us gamble but only 0.7% experience any problems according to GC. Yes this means regulation is required as with any potentially harmful activity but far from a reason to stop it altogether.
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02/02/2021 11:37:23 4 1
bbc
so you think more than 50% play on-line slot games?
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02/02/2021 11:55:13 3 1
bbc
Do you regard the compulsory wearing of seatbelts for motorists and helmets for motorcyclists as "nanny state"? How about abolishing zebra crossings?

Gambling companies are parasites and tax dodgers.
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02/02/2021 11:33:33 4 0
bbc
It's so sad to see so many people getting hooked (and losing far more than they can afford to) on what are essentially quite simple computer programs that provide these on-line slots gambling games.
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KL
02/02/2021 11:33:14 3 9
bbc
The many advocates for the nanny state on here need to get some perspective. Whatever problems you had with gambling yourself is not representative of the vast majority of people who gamble. More than 50% of us gamble but only 0.7% experience any problems according to GC. Yes this means regulation is required as with any potentially harmful activity but far from a reason to stop it altogether.
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02/02/2021 11:37:23 4 1
bbc
so you think more than 50% play on-line slot games?
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KL
02/02/2021 11:40:13 0 3
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As I said I think 50% of people gamble online per the GC stats page. A lot of comments here call for a complete ban on online gambling.
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02/02/2021 11:39:58 3 2
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I bet they don't go ahead with this.
73
02/02/2021 11:52:52 3 5
bbc
Sadly, I think you're right. Too many Tories with family & friends interest in these (offshore) companies which are transferring huge amounts of the population's wealth (mostly from the poorer people) into their tax havens.
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02/02/2021 11:37:23 4 1
bbc
so you think more than 50% play on-line slot games?
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KL
02/02/2021 11:40:13 0 3
bbc
As I said I think 50% of people gamble online per the GC stats page. A lot of comments here call for a complete ban on online gambling.
88
02/02/2021 12:13:55 2 1
bbc
50% seems way to high; could it be they are including fringe gambling such as booking seats on Ryan Air flights?.
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02/02/2021 11:26:22 4 5
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Alcohol, tobacco and drugs are adjuncts to life and can be reduced with effort, focus and money.
Gambling is innate in folks and is used in decisions we make, day to day. Professional sugar-coated 'gaming' is virtual theft and relies on a fake association with glamour, sex and self-esteem.
HMG sponsors and benefits greatly from gambling and is directly responsible for any failures it produces.
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02/02/2021 11:35:08 2 4
bbc
Poppycock, one eyed poppycock.

Mr. Blair (Labour) opened the floodgates, now we have a Tory pushing the gates back a little.

But in any case, anyone look backwards, thinking their 1 Party is wonderful, always, all the time, isn't the solution.

To anything.
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02/02/2021 11:22:58 4 5
bbc
Easy solution. Ban online gambling completely as a hazard to health and a National danger. Oh, but the Govt gains a huge amount of TAX from it......I bet that tax doesn't go to the NHS or any other support service for addicts......or is that just me ??
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02/02/2021 11:36:39 0 2
bbc
It's just you.

You need to look beyond half a tomato season, and the facts, to see who does / did what, when etc.
53
02/02/2021 11:24:29 3 1
bbc
Bit late for Thatcher and Co
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02/02/2021 11:45:44 8 10
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See Diana Moon Glampers post above...

Fourteen years since Blair was PM, yet you're still blaming him for UK government policy.

How incredibly weak.

___

Lefties eh ?
77
02/02/2021 11:58:19 9 7
bbc
Says the bloke trying to blame a PM who left office in 2007.

Righties.

Hypocrites.
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02/02/2021 11:49:03 9 4
bbc
I still can't believe that Labour deregulated gambling. It is so against everything that they are supposed to stand for.
76
02/02/2021 11:57:29 5 3
bbc
The "Labour" Party that did this under the leadership of Tory B.Liar was not a proper Labour Party as it failed absolutely to reverse any of the antisocialist policies introduced under Thatcher & Major and in fact continued the right wing assault on ordinary people by policies such as this one. Shame on them.
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02/02/2021 11:49:32 4 2
bbc
Don't expect bans any time soon while MPs are allowed to accept donations, the preferred term for bribes, from betting companies. Some even sit in committees on both sides, government and gambling companies, ensuring no change will happen.
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02/02/2021 11:50:07 9 5
bbc
"Fresh restrictions"? Not enough. Outlaw all forms of gambling conducted except in person in betting shops and outlaw all means of payment in betting shops except cash.
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02/02/2021 11:50:10 12 2
bbc
I remember well one of the things my father told me as a small boy, "You never see a poor bookmaker". That stuck with me over many years, I did do the National Lottery a few times and, living close to Epsom Downs, did visit the Derby on a few occasions, but other than that I've never gambled - certainly not on a regular basis.
Those words are still true today, gambling is a mugs game!
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02/02/2021 11:50:58 32 8
bbc
When the fun stops, stop? Ever had a look at the faces in a bookie's shop? Are we having fun, yet?
Removed
62
02/02/2021 11:39:58 3 2
bbc
I bet they don't go ahead with this.
73
02/02/2021 11:52:52 3 5
bbc
Sadly, I think you're right. Too many Tories with family & friends interest in these (offshore) companies which are transferring huge amounts of the population's wealth (mostly from the poorer people) into their tax havens.
74
02/02/2021 11:55:02 3 2
bbc
Good.
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KL
02/02/2021 11:33:14 3 9
bbc
The many advocates for the nanny state on here need to get some perspective. Whatever problems you had with gambling yourself is not representative of the vast majority of people who gamble. More than 50% of us gamble but only 0.7% experience any problems according to GC. Yes this means regulation is required as with any potentially harmful activity but far from a reason to stop it altogether.
75
02/02/2021 11:55:13 3 1
bbc
Do you regard the compulsory wearing of seatbelts for motorists and helmets for motorcyclists as "nanny state"? How about abolishing zebra crossings?

Gambling companies are parasites and tax dodgers.
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KL
02/02/2021 12:07:46 0 2
bbc
No I do not. But also I do not advocate the banning of cars either. Do you?
67
02/02/2021 11:49:03 9 4
bbc
I still can't believe that Labour deregulated gambling. It is so against everything that they are supposed to stand for.
76
02/02/2021 11:57:29 5 3
bbc
The "Labour" Party that did this under the leadership of Tory B.Liar was not a proper Labour Party as it failed absolutely to reverse any of the antisocialist policies introduced under Thatcher & Major and in fact continued the right wing assault on ordinary people by policies such as this one. Shame on them.
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02/02/2021 12:30:59 0 2
bbc
oh, of course! They were the 'Only Labour if everything goes well, but if it doesn't it's the Tories fault Party'.

And Tony Blair was the best politician Labour has had for a generation, even though the Far Left have tried to demonise him. Corbyn & Momentum not fit to lick his boots, and have nearly destroyed Labour, which was never referred to as 'Toxics' before or had a racist following.
66
02/02/2021 11:45:44 8 10
bbc
See Diana Moon Glampers post above...

Fourteen years since Blair was PM, yet you're still blaming him for UK government policy.

How incredibly weak.

___

Lefties eh ?
77
02/02/2021 11:58:19 9 7
bbc
Says the bloke trying to blame a PM who left office in 2007.

Righties.

Hypocrites.
81
02/02/2021 12:07:02 1 1
bbc
Discuss it with Humpty Dumpty, blaming someone who left office 30 years ago and having Blair for 3 terms in that intervening time, the longest serving Labour PM.
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02/02/2021 11:06:12 13 3
bbc
Putting restrictions and banning gambling will just mean people will use foreign bookies with even less regulation.

PLUS all the losses (gamblers ALWAYS lose) will go out of the UK.

The key is EDUCATION.

Helping addicts.

And making sure people know that gambling is a loser's sport.

--
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02/02/2021 11:59:21 1 2
bbc
And you really think the profits from gambling companies actually stay in the UK anyway - or that any taxes are paid here?
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02/02/2021 12:05:15 9 3
bbc
Every tv betting ad should be followed with the following stats:
win/loss ratio with that firm
Average loss per bet
Previous year's profit for the firm
Previous year's tax paid in the uk by the firm

and then a close up of Ray Winstone shouting 'Don't do it, you slaaaaaaag' into the camera.
80
02/02/2021 12:06:41 9 1
bbc
How about banning TV advertising.

On some channels after 2100, virtually every other add is one for an online gambling firm.
77
02/02/2021 11:58:19 9 7
bbc
Says the bloke trying to blame a PM who left office in 2007.

Righties.

Hypocrites.
81
02/02/2021 12:07:02 1 1
bbc
Discuss it with Humpty Dumpty, blaming someone who left office 30 years ago and having Blair for 3 terms in that intervening time, the longest serving Labour PM.
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02/02/2021 13:20:54 5 0
bbc
No. I'm discussing it with you because your opening gambit was to blame a PM who left office 14 years ago - before online gambling really took off. Capiche?
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bbc
Removed
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02/02/2021 11:12:41 2 3
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People will just use foreign betting sites.

And all the losses (and therefore UK tax revenue) will flow out of the UK.
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02/02/2021 12:01:28 0 0
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Some of the big "British" gambling companies are already foreign-owned. Most of the "British" gambling companies are registered in tax havens.

There is precious little tax revenue for the UK as it is.
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02/02/2021 12:03:54 8 3
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Maybe 'Social skills' could be taught in school, like;

'Who do you think pays for all those TV ads, football sponsorship and Betting companies big dividends? - you do!'
also, 'who do you think causes all that litter in our streets? - you do!'
and, 'who do you think helps spread the virus by not following the rules? - you do!'

Responsibility, not fault.
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:18:39 4 2
bbc
Careful! That sounds like good old-fashioned common sense. I am not sure that is allowed on these forums :-)
75
02/02/2021 11:55:13 3 1
bbc
Do you regard the compulsory wearing of seatbelts for motorists and helmets for motorcyclists as "nanny state"? How about abolishing zebra crossings?

Gambling companies are parasites and tax dodgers.
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KL
02/02/2021 12:07:46 0 2
bbc
No I do not. But also I do not advocate the banning of cars either. Do you?
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02/02/2021 12:50:52 0 0
bbc
So you agree to the nanny state.
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02/02/2021 12:12:49 3 2
bbc
As long as Gambling bosses can buy them selves 350 Million a year on the back on the misery of customers - regulate regulate regulate. And force them to pay tax as they all sit in Malta or Gibraltar.
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:16:34 0 3
bbc
Doesn't your second sentence somewhat negate your first?
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02/02/2021 12:12:49 2 3
bbc
People waste their money on lots of things, including tobacco and alcohol. Do People want these banned as well.

How about the National Lottery, which is available in practically every shop. That is still gambling. How many people end up out of pocket. Some money goes to good causes, but how much to the National Opera for example. I doubt that the typical punter has been there recently?.
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02/02/2021 12:36:20 1 0
bbc
Actually the National Opera received a minimum of £55 million of lottery money. Don't see that sort of money going to prop up Saltburn FC.
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KL
02/02/2021 11:40:13 0 3
bbc
As I said I think 50% of people gamble online per the GC stats page. A lot of comments here call for a complete ban on online gambling.
88
02/02/2021 12:13:55 2 1
bbc
50% seems way to high; could it be they are including fringe gambling such as booking seats on Ryan Air flights?.
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KL
02/02/2021 12:35:19 0 0
bbc
Well maybe. They just asked 8000 people if they gambled online in whatever period of time I guess it's up to respondents to choose what counts!
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:14:37 1 2
bbc
It really does not matter what regulations the UK government impose. The internet provides access to anyone who wishes to gamble on a plethora of dodgy sites located in places as diverse as Gibraltar, Malta, and Manilla.
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02/02/2021 12:47:19 1 1
bbc
But now that we've regained our sovereignty and taken back control, the government ought to be able to regulate them or even ban them.

As of course it will... (satire alert)
86
02/02/2021 12:12:49 3 2
bbc
As long as Gambling bosses can buy them selves 350 Million a year on the back on the misery of customers - regulate regulate regulate. And force them to pay tax as they all sit in Malta or Gibraltar.
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:16:34 0 3
bbc
Doesn't your second sentence somewhat negate your first?
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02/02/2021 12:23:29 2 1
bbc
Block all sites not paying tax at the ISP level. Sure a vpn can be used but its more effort.
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02/02/2021 12:18:01 3 1
bbc
Time to teach children in 11+ schools about gambling; how it works, how probability works. Show them how easy is it to create an on-line slot machine - show them how it works under the covers.
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02/02/2021 12:46:00 1 1
bbc
I once helped out as a supply teacher in a school where, after the exams were over, the Year 11 students were given a practical day on how different people in different jobs could live. It was an eye-opener for them.

How to manage your finances ought to be a compulsory part of state education.

I wonder why it isn't... I wonder...
84
02/02/2021 12:03:54 8 3
bbc
Maybe 'Social skills' could be taught in school, like;

'Who do you think pays for all those TV ads, football sponsorship and Betting companies big dividends? - you do!'
also, 'who do you think causes all that litter in our streets? - you do!'
and, 'who do you think helps spread the virus by not following the rules? - you do!'

Responsibility, not fault.
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:18:39 4 2
bbc
Careful! That sounds like good old-fashioned common sense. I am not sure that is allowed on these forums :-)
93
02/02/2021 12:21:13 6 3
bbc
I always cringe when I see the adverts. They all seem to suggest that they are doing you a favour.
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MVS
02/02/2021 12:16:34 0 3
bbc
Doesn't your second sentence somewhat negate your first?
94
02/02/2021 12:23:29 2 1
bbc
Block all sites not paying tax at the ISP level. Sure a vpn can be used but its more effort.
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jk
02/02/2021 12:23:57 4 3
bbc
Strange that everyone has a go at on line gambling but walk into every news agents/supermarkets and see the range of lottery tickets and scratch cards that are on offer. No government warning signs showing that the odds of winning on these tickets/cards is minimal......
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02/02/2021 12:26:50 7 3
bbc
Lack of tight Govt controls on gambling in all its forms aided by modern instand communcations, data recovery, people profiling
& sophisticated targetted advertising is contribting the crumbling of society.

Gambling, is addictive, plus 'must have' mobile phones, & other trappings is why some kids are going hungry.
197
02/02/2021 17:23:11 0 0
bbc
Kids are going hungry due to massive inequality, not because poor families consider mobile phones to be as essential to their lives as richer ones do.
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02/02/2021 12:27:08 21 0
bbc
In my job I see bank statements from most walks of life. If they have betting on them, its rarely the odd bet, rather the statements are riddled with payments to gambling companies. They invariably have numerous high level unsecured loans and credit cards too. In my experience these either have more gambling or have been used to consolidate cards and overdrafts that have. I feel for them.
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02/02/2021 11:24:29 3 1
bbc
Bit late for Thatcher and Co
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02/02/2021 12:18:07 13 8
bbc
Mrs Thatcher was marvelous. Started from good lower middle class stock, was a highly qualified Industrial chemist. First woman PM. Smashed the dinosaur unions thus dragging UK into 20th century. Fought a brief war that was actually justified and had an achievable end purpose. And her main philosphy was to enable people to take responsibility for themselves.
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02/02/2021 13:24:26 6 1
bbc
She threw millions onto the dole and replaced British industry with casino banking.

Look how that turned out. Now we have people demanding why we don't make anything anymore and why the banks are all powerful.
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02/02/2021 15:55:25 1 1
bbc
Ooooh, we can't be having responsibility for yourself on here. It's always someone else's fault. The unions shut the pits with their actions and Labour didn't reopen one of them. Makes you think she may well have been right...
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LG
02/02/2021 18:25:09 1 0
bbc
Thatcher Thatcher the milk snatcher!
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02/02/2021 11:57:29 5 3
bbc
The "Labour" Party that did this under the leadership of Tory B.Liar was not a proper Labour Party as it failed absolutely to reverse any of the antisocialist policies introduced under Thatcher & Major and in fact continued the right wing assault on ordinary people by policies such as this one. Shame on them.
99
02/02/2021 12:30:59 0 2
bbc
oh, of course! They were the 'Only Labour if everything goes well, but if it doesn't it's the Tories fault Party'.

And Tony Blair was the best politician Labour has had for a generation, even though the Far Left have tried to demonise him. Corbyn & Momentum not fit to lick his boots, and have nearly destroyed Labour, which was never referred to as 'Toxics' before or had a racist following.
88
02/02/2021 12:13:55 2 1
bbc
50% seems way to high; could it be they are including fringe gambling such as booking seats on Ryan Air flights?.
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KL
02/02/2021 12:35:19 0 0
bbc
Well maybe. They just asked 8000 people if they gambled online in whatever period of time I guess it's up to respondents to choose what counts!