South Africa variant: Urgent Covid testing after community cases found
01/02/2021 | news | health | 860
Testing will start in Surrey - but London, Kent, Hertfordshire and Walsall are also being targeted.
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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kay
01/02/2021 16:17:15 19 20
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Well said!
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01/02/2021 16:17:36 5 1
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Yeah, they don't like us calling the England virus the England virus.
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01/02/2021 16:18:36 12 0
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But that is what they do, the variant here is the UK one and Spanish Flu has always been called that.
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01/02/2021 16:19:10 16 1
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We have the UK variant and there’s a Brazilian variant. I’m sure every country will have its own soon.
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01/02/2021 16:20:50 23 1
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Surely we should be calling the original one the China variant?
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01/02/2021 16:23:33 15 0
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And when someone calls it 'New variant 19A/42b etc." people will ask, "which one's that? Is it the South African one?"
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01/02/2021 16:20:46 15 5
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Every variant should be called the Chinese 1 or 2 or 3. They started it and then lied to the world. They should be sued for trillions.
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01/02/2021 16:28:32 7 0
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Variants are named after the place they are first found. It certainly doesn't mean that is where they originated.

The fact that the UK is a world leader in sequencing means it has a higher probably of finding virus mutations.
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01/02/2021 16:41:25 0 0
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The call the variant found in Kent the U.K. variant.
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01/02/2021 17:06:02 0 0
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Travelers knows it is where the first identification is made. It says more about the research quality of that country than infection levels. There are strains L and S then Chinese, Spanish, UK, Danish, Brazilian, South African, Southern Californian and many others. Then there is Covid 19 and Sars Cov 2 where Covid 19 is the disease and Sars Cov 2 the virus as in SARS-CoV-2 501Y.V2 (South African)
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dog
01/02/2021 17:32:28 0 0
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Like Merkel calling it the English variant.
Covid - the Tory answer to the social care crisis Removed
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BAZ
01/02/2021 16:22:56 1 0
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Sick comment.
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01/02/2021 16:23:41 0 0
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Liberal Cotters - the countries argument for legalised euthanasia..
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01/02/2021 16:23:59 0 2
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labour answer plant money trees so everybody that feels hard done by and does not want to work can just go and pick some free money
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01/02/2021 16:17:10 139 8
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If there are that many cases then it's already spreading in the community.

This isn't going to be the last variant we see, it's just something we are going to have to learn to live with.
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01/02/2021 16:40:45 69 5
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It’s just another of the hundreds of mutations covid has had over the past year. This is common knowledge within the science community.

There is no need to panic. The NHS is simply testing for it to check how fast it spreads and how well the vaccines work with it.

If you are doing hands, mask and space you should be OK.
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01/02/2021 16:54:21 1 0
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...or die with
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Meh
01/02/2021 16:56:56 9 1
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Come on, its not that simple is it.

Realistically all these measures are nothing to do with death, it’s all to do with hospitalisation.

The NHS has a capacity and if we break that limit, then the ‘you know’ what hits the fan.

The point of these lockdowns have never been to save lives - it’s just to stop the collapse of our national health service.
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01/02/2021 17:09:34 2 6
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Agreed. Get all the borders open now.

The variants are here anyway and the damage to the economy caused by these ridiculous, short termist policies are causing irreparable damage to people's livelihoods.

Look at the bigger picture people.
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Ann
01/02/2021 17:46:17 1 2
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Exactly, this constant fear mongering is becoming tiresome and exhausting. There will always be a variant.
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Waz
01/02/2021 18:06:40 0 1
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We shouldn't have to live with it if we shut our borders.
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02/02/2021 05:59:04 0 0
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This new laughable lockdown is to blame. Has Bozo seen the road traffic out there? They are all going somewhere.
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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kay
01/02/2021 16:17:15 19 20
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Well said!
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 139 37
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No international travel. Stop it all now.
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01/02/2021 16:22:15 30 25
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Not going to happen.
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01/02/2021 16:24:53 10 0
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Probably too late. Again.
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Bob
01/02/2021 16:50:36 5 0
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But then how is BA going to send Captain Tom on an all expenses paid trip to Barbados, only to arrive back home, get pneumonia, and test positive for the virus?
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01/02/2021 16:50:37 8 1
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Agree. The scenes at Heathrow were crazy. Where on earth we’re all these people going??!! Can’t believe they all need to travel...
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01/02/2021 17:11:28 3 8
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Thank goodness the government don't have your selfish and blinkered attitude or the travel sector really would be in trouble!
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01/02/2021 17:31:57 0 0
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Won't stop the virus mutating in similar ways here anyway. Stopping all travel will only protect you if manage to get virus levels pretty much suppressed. Vaccines are the much better answer.
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01/02/2021 17:58:22 2 0
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Why? The virus is already here and mutation is a normal part of the virus host relationship. We just have to live with it and the sooner people wake up to this reality the better.
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01/02/2021 18:20:55 0 1
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WAY too late. They knew about the dangers of this variant in November. We could have shut international travel bar with PCR test and quarantine then
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:17:36 5 1
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Yeah, they don't like us calling the England virus the England virus.
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
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01/02/2021 16:21:54 29 11
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What story? We're in lockdown, so who is going to be catching the flu?
Indeed TPFTBB!
Also a story about Sweden's hospitals emptying would be nice!
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01/02/2021 16:24:22 17 0
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Yeah apparently it has disappeared because of distancing, reducing social interaction and washing hands........... It can't can't work for one and not the other surely!
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01/02/2021 16:27:00 7 6
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Literally no story here. Social distancing and lockdown coupled with higher vaccination rate killed this years flu variant off.

There - you can stop hyperventilating mow.
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01/02/2021 16:31:32 2 3
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I have heard people say, convinced there’s no flu because we’re all wearing masks! ??????
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01/02/2021 16:40:20 4 0
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There is no ‘story’. That is to be expected. Flu is much less contagious than Covid with an R value of 1.2-1.8 compared with 3.0-3.7 for Covid. Social distancing, mask wearing, hand hygiene and lockdowns control the spread of flu. Many more people have had flu vaccinations this year. Lack of global air travel means the flu hasn’t spread from the southern to the northern hemisphere this winter.
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01/02/2021 16:41:48 0 0
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Strange thing though, I don't know anyone who has been killed by the flu but up to 6 people I know of, either distant friends or friends of friends who have died from the virus. Not all elderly either.
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01/02/2021 16:49:01 3 0
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Hmm maybe, just maybe, all respiratory disorders have decreased because of social distancing, better hygiene and masks.... you know these measures dont just work on COVID right?
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01/02/2021 16:18:34 11 9
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Learn the lessons. Forcibly quarantine everyone and their contacts who test positive for the mutations. Stop it at source.
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01/02/2021 16:21:45 0 0
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Love to agree with you on this one but...Have we got the staff?
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01/02/2021 16:41:10 1 0
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Stopping mutations at source means global eradication, which is going to be a difficult ask given that there are multiple mammal hosts
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:18:36 12 0
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But that is what they do, the variant here is the UK one and Spanish Flu has always been called that.
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01/02/2021 16:25:20 15 0
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And the interesting thing there is, the Spanish Flu did not originate in Spain, they were simply the first nation to report it.
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01/02/2021 17:15:47 1 0
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But the Spanish Flu shouldn't have been called that as it didn't originate in Spain.
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01/02/2021 18:02:21 1 0
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Of course the UK variant was first identified in Kent
Kent is effectively the UK's gateway to Europe
So unless anyone has specifically proved the Kent/UK variant to have originated in UK, then it could easily have been an inport from another country
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CPJ
01/02/2021 16:18:42 5 9
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Well done identified early testing in place now public has to play it's part.
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:19:10 16 1
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We have the UK variant and there’s a Brazilian variant. I’m sure every country will have its own soon.
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01/02/2021 16:27:44 5 1
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I am sure every country already as its own variant. A virus does not choose a country as its prefered destination. It won't refuse to mutate in France because the French have nice cheeses or in Italy because it likes pasta dishes. Viruses mutate regardless and has no respect for international borders or reputation..
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01/02/2021 16:19:35 10 1
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Once again, UK gene sequencing expertise finds it first.
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01/02/2021 16:54:11 4 0
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That’s great but we need to learn how to track, trace and isolate the new variant cases. We do t seem to very good at that.
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01/02/2021 16:19:41 8 5
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The comment by liberal cotters should be removed immediately - it is disgusting!!!!!!!
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01/02/2021 16:25:44 1 0
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What comment - genuine question
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01/02/2021 16:19:42 220 12
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To think, I haven't seen my family since October, haven't been to a restaurant since December, local pubs and businesses are going bust left, right and centre, and I've spent the best part of 6 weeks seeing not a single sole outside my 1 bed flat which I work from. Yet, somehow it was fine through early Jan to fly Dubai and go clubbing, fine in early Dec to go to SA then fly back without isolating
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01/02/2021 16:34:16 121 51
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Because you and I are plebs.

The middle, upper middle and upper classes don’t have to obey those rules!

Look at the rule that insists people from high risk countries stay in a hotel for ten days.

Everyone knows the rich will bypass that by using their wealth to travel via intermediate countries that aren’t on the list.

Policy is a joke to appease the plebs and stop us complaining as we die.
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01/02/2021 16:35:08 24 0
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Barbados too, apparently... ??
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01/02/2021 16:43:16 12 17
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Which bit of "With NO LINKS TO TRAVVEL" did you not get/chose to ignore?

Viruses Mutate all by themselves, flu does it several times EVERY YEAR.

Covid-19 has already mutated at least once within the UK.

It can & probably will do so agene.

Even the scientists agree with that!
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01/02/2021 16:44:42 33 0
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I know what you mean, there seems to be two Britains.

My wife didn't see her parents in 2020, and lord knows when she'll see them again. My mum is in a similar place with her grandchildren, my Idea of a night out these days is going to the local take away, to stand outside.

But I'm reading about Brits skiing in Austria or holidaying in Spain or attending mass (illegal) parties here in the UK???
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01/02/2021 16:46:41 28 2
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While I do see my family occassionally I have:
- lived alone since last march
- havent been to a restaurant since August,
- havent hung out with my mates since November
- live in a 2 bedroom flat

I'm happy to keep it up though as I dont mind missing out to help others, its just a shame a minority of people only care about themselves and are putting the rest of us through this perpetual rubbish
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01/02/2021 16:49:45 11 0
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Fair point well put.
Some do all they can personally to help minimise transmission while others either directly ignore/break the rules, or try to justify working around them.
Even Captian Sir Tom has now succumbed, proving anyone is vulnerable when travel risks are taken.
I sincerely wish him all the best, but this should be a lesson to all of us.
We just need patience and good vaccine rollout.
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01/02/2021 16:49:53 0 7
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My High street is aa dead as the proverbial doornail and that is in the centre of Southern England Toryland, Beware the ides of MAY, Teresa or not ?????
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01/02/2021 16:52:30 5 4
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Yup. We should have been in complete lockdown since March, and until everyone has been vaccinated.
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01/02/2021 17:03:19 1 1
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You're allowed to meet one person outside. You have chosen not to.
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01/02/2021 17:07:31 1 1
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For Dubai Xmas newyear , I hear you had to have a letter of business to go as my friends son did or it had to be for family or medical reasons .
I do realise you could have used false info to go.
He used his time wisely and managed to have a great time when not in business meetings
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01/02/2021 17:33:26 1 1
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and how many people ACTUALLY did that?

Get some perspective there are tens of millions of us in the same state as you. There were never that many selfish travellers, but there are far more selfish people over here STILL breaking the rules and guidance. Save your disgust for THEM
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01/02/2021 17:36:33 0 6
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Thing is why shouldn't the young and healthy get to live their lives. They are also carrying the weight of having to pay back all this mess in taxes and will prop up the economy.
Why should we sacrifices our lives for those that already had theirs and won't be around long anyway?!
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01/02/2021 17:45:08 0 0
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Tell everyone that you're an "influencer" and go forth with a clear conscience.
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GW
01/02/2021 17:50:59 0 0
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Yes and thats just Sky Presenters and Ministers
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01/02/2021 18:18:50 0 0
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Not see a single sole? Do you like fish then?
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01/02/2021 18:39:25 0 0
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But you have had a great time since christmas..
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01/02/2021 19:28:48 0 0
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So? Stop supporting the reckless by whinging about it. Change what you 'want'.

Go for a walk, people milling about all over you can shout to if so needy of others, from a respectable distance.
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01/02/2021 16:20:09 7 0
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This seems like a good use of extra targeted testing capacity, to hopefully stop this variant before it gets a foothold in the UK. Particularly as cases, hospitalisations and deaths all look to be on a strong downward trend.
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01/02/2021 16:50:10 3 0
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It will only work if the local population get tested and comply with isolation rules. Considering where we are now I am not hopeful that it will happen.
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01/02/2021 16:20:47 24 2
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A virus mutates all the time, some of our ancestors who wouldn't have been aware of variants to the extent we know about it but lived with viruses, yet somehow we can defeat it so here we are.
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01/02/2021 16:33:18 19 2
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True. To date humanity has survived viral and bacterial pandemics over history with no vaccines or antibiotics at the time.
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01/02/2021 16:55:39 7 0
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Life expectancy in the Bronze Age, IF you survived to adulthood, was 32 years old. So maybe medical progress isn't such a bad thing.
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BAZ
01/02/2021 16:20:47 42 10
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So why have we not adopted the quarantine hotel concept for people coming in from overseas? It has worked in Australia and New Zealand since the start of the pandemic. Australia has less total cases than we report for each day.
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01/02/2021 16:22:58 32 11
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they can't do something that they've ignored for a year without looking, incompetent
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01/02/2021 16:30:44 11 3
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Australia is a massive country and has only a small percentage of our population. Can't you understand high density living like that of ours is why we have so many cases, and a stupid population that will not always comply, no matter what is asked of them. As for New Zealand, same size as us virtually, with the population of half of London.
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01/02/2021 17:32:05 1 0
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Fewer.
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01/02/2021 17:32:11 4 3
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It's summer in Australia. Its winter in our damp cold island, we get a lot more respiratory infections in winter. Just one of a million reasons why you can't compare UK and Australia.
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01/02/2021 17:33:24 3 1
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you have to do it before it exists in a widespread way in the country, not when 4m Brits are coming home from Europe at half term.
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01/02/2021 16:20:49 45 14
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If new variants are always developing, how is the lockdown ever going to end? This is getting ever more depressing and I can see large numbers of people running out of patience after we were led to believe that the vaccine was what would get us out of this
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01/02/2021 16:27:02 31 1
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My guess is that the vaccine will be updated annually, like the flu vaccine is (which works better in some years than others). Different variants may, over time, affect different age profiles or certain regions of the world, due to pre-existing immunity.
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01/02/2021 16:28:25 9 2
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We were not led to believe all would be over with the vaccine. Pathogens like this mutate constantly and the vaccine is the beginning of the fight against transmission. No one ever said it was the final step, just one going in the right direction. Get real
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01/02/2021 16:34:58 7 1
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The new variants are unlikely in the near term to make vaccines useless. The important thing is to prevent severe disease
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01/02/2021 16:42:44 6 0
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No new variant has been shown to evade any of the UK approved vaccines yet and all three are very easy to modify
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01/02/2021 17:05:33 4 0
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I'm not sure lockdowns will end any time soon, the last guess from the Govt was "spring or summer" They may get less lockdowny over time but as soon as people start visiting beaches in the summer we'll see a Mexican wave of hysterical arm waving and predictions of the end of the world.
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01/02/2021 17:28:15 3 0
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Because once the effects are manageable and the numbers in hospital are at relatively low levels we can accept it and move on hopefully. A lot of people die of 'flu every winter and put strain on the NHS but we don't lock down because of it. Without vaccines the NHS couldn't cope with the volumes of sick people. And no, the answer isn't to build loads more hospitals and throw money at them...
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01/02/2021 17:36:06 0 0
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So what you're saying is that the hospitals will never run out of patients?
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:20:50 23 1
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Surely we should be calling the original one the China variant?
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01/02/2021 16:24:29 16 4
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'The Wuhan virus' works for me.
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01/02/2021 17:17:08 1 0
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How does it help to be giving names to variants?
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01/02/2021 16:21:01 9 2
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Let's get this one right as they will most likely be more to follow
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01/02/2021 16:21:02 59 25
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It's almost as if the UK's test, trace and isolate strategy is all over the place, a bit like the new variants.
NHS vaccine roll out has been superb. If only the NHS had been allowed to tackle test and trace from the start. They're health professionals. Dido Harding isn't.
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01/02/2021 16:26:34 71 13
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The staff dealing with test and trace have admitted they have received abuse and threats by members of the public when contacting them. It is the stupid public who put themselves before the virus that should be castigated.
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01/02/2021 16:38:16 6 1
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The NHS vaccine programme is only as good as it is because the UK Armed Forces set up the distribution programme from scratch and taught them how to do it. In Scotland Nicola Van de Layen tried, and failed, before she was forced to call in the British Army.
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01/02/2021 16:48:35 3 2
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Dildo who?
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SAM
01/02/2021 16:53:25 3 3
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The monitoring of this new variant seems to be being handled by Local Public Health, great to see that finally the people with years of expertise are being allowed to handle these things rather than some private sector company who know nothing about it (despite having NHS in their name).
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Bob
01/02/2021 16:56:01 6 1
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The vaccine roll out was devised centrally. The NHS merely provided the bodies to do the jabbing. Procurement, manufacturing, approval, logistics. All not handed by NHS.

The reason private companies were drafted in to man call centres is because it is their existing business to provide those services. There's no point getting the NHS to start from scratch then someone can get it going quicker.
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01/02/2021 18:13:18 1 1
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Or did it fail because of lack of compliance by those who were tracked and told to isolate?
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01/02/2021 16:21:17 103 45
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Why do the BBC give so much prominence to a story when Nick Triggle’s analysis puts it rather more into perspective?

Oh, I remember, it’s because the BBC these days only likes bad news and tabloid-quality journalism.
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01/02/2021 16:23:08 38 19
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Maybe most news is bad news...
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01/02/2021 16:29:39 8 6
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Pop on over to the Daily Mail website. They have gone BIG on this story - whipping up the permanently perturbed Leave voters into a frothing hyperventilating frenzy.

That’s the MSM for you I guess.
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01/02/2021 16:32:19 6 0
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You want "good news" all day long, Alex? More often than not, the bad outweighs the good and the bad has more effect on us.
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01/02/2021 16:33:41 8 3
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The BBC is a tabloid. Have you never seen Eastenders or the Daily Star inspired Ru Paul?
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01/02/2021 16:43:19 5 3
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How is this good news?The U.K. may be great at sequencing the genome of the virus but we are dreadful at tracking m isolating it and controlling the spread. We need to learn from Australia and New Zealand.
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01/02/2021 17:23:50 0 4
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Thing is , its not really news. Its getting all very dull and predictable. I switch over to Aljazera or RT news , at least you get other in depth news from around the world. They also do good reports from countries that are really suffering for other reasons. Its nasty this virus but we are not as bad off as others. We live in a greedy selfish nanny state.
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01/02/2021 22:50:05 0 0
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Oh great another bbc hating Bot posting, got to love you total bores.
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01/02/2021 16:21:30 6 5
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As the government like to give each new variant a 4 or 5 week head start...... no suprises here
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01/02/2021 16:21:44 6 15
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You can't fight this thing. Time to stop trying.
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01/02/2021 16:27:38 3 6
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Time to OPEN up society. You get variants of the flu virus every winter. That's what viruses do, they mutate to try and survive against vaccines. This lockdown must end now.
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01/02/2021 16:31:53 2 0
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Just give up? No thanks. There's afar more to life than the pub/beaches. Lockdown isn't even that difficult just some people need more assistance than others and should be given it. A year on we're still arguing about whther it is the right thing to do yet Australia had 1 case in Perth in 10 months and locked down immediately - because lockdown works.
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01/02/2021 17:37:35 1 0
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Yes lets all give up shall we. ridiculous
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01/02/2021 16:18:34 11 9
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Learn the lessons. Forcibly quarantine everyone and their contacts who test positive for the mutations. Stop it at source.
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01/02/2021 16:21:45 0 0
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Love to agree with you on this one but...Have we got the staff?
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Ed
01/02/2021 16:21:46 10 3
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My fear is a mutation which the vaccines can't deal with. We can be on a 6 month lockdown every autumn and winter to adjust the vaccines to a new variant.
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01/02/2021 16:29:35 3 0
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Denmark - mink.
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01/02/2021 16:34:08 1 0
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It is unlikely, as the scientific community are very confident that they can tweak existing vaccines quite quickly.
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01/02/2021 16:35:46 1 1
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If Starmer has his way we will.
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01/02/2021 16:44:41 1 0
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very unlikely, this virus mutates very slowly and the three current vaccines are very easy to modify in a few weeks
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01/02/2021 16:21:53 13 4
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it was found first in South Africa so get over it, so its called the south Africa variant. just the the uk & other variants now coming up around the world named by the country they were first found in.
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01/02/2021 16:32:53 9 3
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So as it originated in China can we call it the 'China Virus'. Seem to recall a certain Donald Trump get berated for this, but the South Africa or UK variant is fine. Strange Logic.
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
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01/02/2021 16:21:54 29 11
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What story? We're in lockdown, so who is going to be catching the flu?
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01/02/2021 16:25:28 4 5
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The same way people are catching any like virus, donut????
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01/02/2021 16:26:09 8 0
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So in that logic, who's catching Covid?
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01/02/2021 16:30:22 4 0
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So how are we catching coronavirus
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01/02/2021 16:38:05 2 0
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Well, amazingly they are catching Covid, what are these 80 plus years olds that are dying doing, having raves?!
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01/02/2021 16:41:55 0 0
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I think that's the point. Sales of Beechams must be non-existent.
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01/02/2021 16:47:37 0 0
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All those who still party or visit beauty spots...
Or the Brit skiers in Austria...
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01/02/2021 16:22:05 144 22
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Why did capt Toms family take him to Barbados and why did BA offer it.
Holidays abroad should have stopped much sooner and Gov will have a lot of questions to answer after all this is over.
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01/02/2021 16:24:10 27 103
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Yawn
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01/02/2021 16:24:49 12 3
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He built up the air miles in his garden to be fair
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01/02/2021 16:28:42 28 0
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publicity for BA with the same **** the world attitude they have shown since the beginning.
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01/02/2021 16:30:18 21 1
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Careful now, roller. Questions like that and you'll get called a troll by Holly Willoughby and Philip Schofield!
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01/02/2021 16:33:04 0 4
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When would you have stopped them?
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01/02/2021 16:35:20 7 17
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Unlike yourself he was a deserving cause, far more so than the social media influencers. [Whoever thought of that expression?]
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01/02/2021 16:56:00 4 6
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Perhaps it was what he really wanted to do? Maybe he felt that his days are limited anyway, but had always wanted to go to Barbados. I am hoping that is the case, he wanted some of his last memories to be of blue skies, white sand and blue seas, and rum and coke, rather than the dismal winter we are having here, with al the pubs shut too!
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01/02/2021 17:38:12 2 2
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Good luck to capt sir Tom and his family for going on holiday ,he has done more than anyone in his life ,stop being jealous and get on with your life
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01/02/2021 17:55:35 0 0
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Once the virus is in there's no need to close the door.
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01/02/2021 21:14:55 0 0
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For publicity of course... Airlines always quick to jump on a bit of free marketing no matter what the risk.
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01/02/2021 16:22:08 8 8
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Thats payback for the beach ball
16:18
"I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to."

Simple. Influenza is an easily transmissible respiratory virus. The precautions for Covid have been the reason for the reduction - less transmissibility
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01/02/2021 16:32:41 1 0
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I wonder whether we'll all pick up lots of colds and flu when we all start mixing fully again. Or if things like improved awareness around handwashing and not touching your face, etc. will continue to suppress them.
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 139 37
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No international travel. Stop it all now.
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01/02/2021 16:22:15 30 25
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Not going to happen.
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01/02/2021 16:28:02 21 2
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Much as I am a natural Conservative, they have lost a lot of kudos by not clamping down on international travel. Easier said than done early on, but no reason to allow travel now. For any reason, apaert from perhaps scientists and doctors involved in the Covid push.
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01/02/2021 16:40:40 10 0
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Should happen.
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01/02/2021 16:22:22 9 4
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good to see the uk leading the way.
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01/02/2021 16:30:28 6 1
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We certainly are, 9 million vaccines administered and not one adverse reactiuon reported, amazing...
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01/02/2021 16:43:19 0 0
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yea right !!!!! .
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
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Indeed TPFTBB!
Also a story about Sweden's hospitals emptying would be nice!
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BAZ
01/02/2021 16:22:56 1 0
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Sick comment.
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BAZ
01/02/2021 16:20:47 42 10
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So why have we not adopted the quarantine hotel concept for people coming in from overseas? It has worked in Australia and New Zealand since the start of the pandemic. Australia has less total cases than we report for each day.
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01/02/2021 16:22:58 32 11
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they can't do something that they've ignored for a year without looking, incompetent
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01/02/2021 17:24:59 3 0
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It's a bit late for the Govt to worry about looking incompetent.
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01/02/2021 16:21:17 103 45
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Why do the BBC give so much prominence to a story when Nick Triggle’s analysis puts it rather more into perspective?

Oh, I remember, it’s because the BBC these days only likes bad news and tabloid-quality journalism.
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01/02/2021 16:23:08 38 19
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Maybe most news is bad news...
Thanks for that comment Eyore! Removed
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01/02/2021 17:47:52 0 0
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Really?
Will we have tests for the forthcoming Greenland variant? Or the Svalbard variant? What about the Gibraltar variant and the Mars variant too? I reckon the Antarctic variant may well be along at some point as well. Got tests for those yet? In the meantime can you open up the f*u*c*k*i*n*g country so we can come out of prison and have our lives back please? Thanks a lot! Removed
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01/02/2021 16:26:33 2 0
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Can we also check for the "its not fair" variant , you seem to be showing symptoms
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01/02/2021 16:27:29 0 0
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There's a pandemic going on. Keep opening up the country too early as we have done several times now will ensure we're in the situation for years to come.

Deal with it properly then open up.
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01/02/2021 16:32:12 1 0
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The country will open up when it is safe to do so.
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01/02/2021 16:23:09 65 17
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"The fact the UK is the world leader in sequencing - the process of analysing positive cases in detail - means officials have been able to identify the early signs of community transmission, giving the country a fighting chance of stamping down hard on this variant."

World leader? How did that slip through the edit?
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01/02/2021 16:42:05 17 9
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Never let facts get in the way of sensationalising a story.
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01/02/2021 16:52:26 5 1
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Do you work in biological sciences?
If you did and had a knowledge of what you are talking about then you would agree, The UK IS one of the world leaders as painful as it for the legion of depressing and cynical people like you to admit...
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Bob
01/02/2021 16:52:50 6 0
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Hard to know if you're slanting the BBC for not usually being positive or questioning the validity of it.

The UK *is* the world leader, and along with Denmark we have both contributed more sequences than the rest of the world combined.
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01/02/2021 17:34:59 1 4
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But we still have highest Deaths in europe and Highest Deathrate per capita globally. No one is arguing Vaccine rollout has been good so far but it dosnt excuse the Govs handling of pandemic vus far
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:23:33 15 0
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And when someone calls it 'New variant 19A/42b etc." people will ask, "which one's that? Is it the South African one?"
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01/02/2021 16:23:41 0 0
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Liberal Cotters - the countries argument for legalised euthanasia..
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01/02/2021 16:23:42 5 27
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We should have locked our borders down a year ago and we wouldn't be in this mess.

EU have been ripped off by AstraZeneca. How would you feel if they promised UK 100K doses only to turn around and say we'll give you 25K? It doesn't matter who ordered first, they made a promise.
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01/02/2021 16:27:23 9 2
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You have no clue what’s involved, the volume and complexity are way beyond the norm..get a brain
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01/02/2021 16:29:30 4 0
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Except that is not what AZ said is it. I'd be surprised if that contract had any date on it given that it was long before approval.
Now if they had "promised" the UK government earlier than the EU, which promise gets priority?
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01/02/2021 16:31:06 2 0
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So, AZ should break their contract with the UK so that it can meet a contract with the EU that was signed 3 months later? Clearly you have no idea about contractual law.
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01/02/2021 16:23:47 13 16
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Come on people / BBC - you know this is nonsense. Targeted testing to keep the propaganda alive (case numbers high). Stop this, open schools, shield the vulnerable until vaccinated and move on - before it's too late.
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01/02/2021 16:26:08 7 7
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You can move on and let it kill you then..
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01/02/2021 16:31:21 3 0
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So you wouldn't mind working in a COVID ward in your nearest hospital for 10-days without any PPE, right? We will crowd-fund the loss of earnings...

No? Thought so...
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01/02/2021 16:35:30 1 1
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100% we cant be kept locked up forever. Once the vulnerable have all been vaccinated we should be allowed to go back to normal and save the economy before it's too late. If it's less than 1% chance of dying for me I'll take the risk thanks.
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01/02/2021 16:23:59 0 2
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labour answer plant money trees so everybody that feels hard done by and does not want to work can just go and pick some free money
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01/02/2021 16:22:05 144 22
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Why did capt Toms family take him to Barbados and why did BA offer it.
Holidays abroad should have stopped much sooner and Gov will have a lot of questions to answer after all this is over.
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01/02/2021 16:24:10 27 103
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Yawn
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
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01/02/2021 16:24:22 17 0
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Yeah apparently it has disappeared because of distancing, reducing social interaction and washing hands........... It can't can't work for one and not the other surely!
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01/02/2021 16:48:44 0 0
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Depends on infectivity. Those measures reduce infection, they clearly don't prevent it
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01/02/2021 16:20:50 23 1
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Surely we should be calling the original one the China variant?
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01/02/2021 16:24:29 16 4
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'The Wuhan virus' works for me.
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01/02/2021 16:24:40 45 17
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It doesn't matter where the variant comes from it could come from Bognor Regis, the main thing is to really clamp down on these idiots having parties at home and such. On saying that it doesn't help when folk see celebrities and footballers getting away scot free breaking the rules, and just think they can do same.
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01/02/2021 16:27:58 29 2
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Wasn't just Joelinton that broke the rules there, to be fair. The arrogant barber that gave him the cut was just as bad, if not worse.
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01/02/2021 16:22:05 144 22
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Why did capt Toms family take him to Barbados and why did BA offer it.
Holidays abroad should have stopped much sooner and Gov will have a lot of questions to answer after all this is over.
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01/02/2021 16:24:49 12 3
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He built up the air miles in his garden to be fair
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 139 37
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No international travel. Stop it all now.
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01/02/2021 16:24:53 10 0
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Probably too late. Again.
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01/02/2021 16:18:36 12 0
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But that is what they do, the variant here is the UK one and Spanish Flu has always been called that.
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01/02/2021 16:25:20 15 0
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And the interesting thing there is, the Spanish Flu did not originate in Spain, they were simply the first nation to report it.
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01/02/2021 16:27:34 3 1
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The Spanish flu originated in a duck farm in America !!!! .
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01/02/2021 16:42:59 1 0
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Because they were a neutral state in WW1 and did not need to worry about the impact on the moral of their troops in the sodden trenches who were going to die from it if as bullet didn't get them first. Honk Kong Flu didn't originate there either....
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01/02/2021 16:25:24 25 18
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The Gov are doing a fantastic job, as an independent nation we are leading the world in vaccinations and testing rates

Well done Astra Zen and others

Well done Boris for providing the funding at the outset to ensure we lead all others

Well done
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01/02/2021 16:31:35 18 7
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Johnson hasn't done or discovered anything. The Scientists have. With our money, not his.
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01/02/2021 17:02:06 1 0
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All credit to the Gov't for getting experts involved - absolutely!

If you want to link our "independent nation" status to the vaccine success, does that mean Boris and our new-found independence will take the blame for the abysmal death statistics as well...?
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01/02/2021 16:21:54 29 11
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What story? We're in lockdown, so who is going to be catching the flu?
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01/02/2021 16:25:28 4 5
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The same way people are catching any like virus, donut????
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01/02/2021 16:25:43 0 5
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knock knock - take your fing test now!!!!
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01/02/2021 16:19:41 8 5
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The comment by liberal cotters should be removed immediately - it is disgusting!!!!!!!
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01/02/2021 16:25:44 1 0
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What comment - genuine question
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:20:46 15 5
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Every variant should be called the Chinese 1 or 2 or 3. They started it and then lied to the world. They should be sued for trillions.
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01/02/2021 16:31:48 2 2
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then according to that the American Government should be sued for the Spanish flu , as it originated in America .
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01/02/2021 17:19:23 0 0
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"They should be sued for trillions."

Then contact a lawyer. But in which legal jurisdiction should China be sued?
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01/02/2021 16:25:54 3 7
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Here is how to cut Covid cases overnight.
Every PCR test publishes the CT cycle rate. If over 35 times, you are not infectious or positive. We test more than 40 times. Above 35 times you have a 3% chance of being infectious.
If you tested positive for alcohol with a breathalyser test for a drink you had 2 months ago, would you be happy losing your licence?
PCR results tell the wrong story
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01/02/2021 16:40:58 0 0
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Some interesting work done but by no means conclusive, good evidence both ways;

https://dx.doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.jinf.2020.11.025

In Brief "In conclusion, Cts values cannot be used as unique tool to identify those patients who can be infective". A massive public health risk if this paper is correct,
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01/02/2021 16:23:47 13 16
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Come on people / BBC - you know this is nonsense. Targeted testing to keep the propaganda alive (case numbers high). Stop this, open schools, shield the vulnerable until vaccinated and move on - before it's too late.
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01/02/2021 16:26:08 7 7
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You can move on and let it kill you then..
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01/02/2021 16:29:56 3 3
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Yawn - hysterical codswollop
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01/02/2021 16:21:54 29 11
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What story? We're in lockdown, so who is going to be catching the flu?
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01/02/2021 16:26:09 8 0
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So in that logic, who's catching Covid?
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01/02/2021 16:26:28 30 21
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No doubt Kier Starmer will be jumping up and down telling us the government isn’t doing enough and we should all lock down forever.

He told us the government’s actions weren’t strong enough in January, but he keeps quiet about that now it’s apparent the numbers are coming down and he was wrong.
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01/02/2021 16:33:03 14 13
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The Labour party are behind the curve at each and every step. The Scientists have proven beyond doubt that the 11 cases of the South African variant are NOT connected to overseas travel in anyway. Yet the Shadow Health Secretary persists calling on the govt to close the borders to stop these variants coming in. Variants of this disease will be with us for ever; do we therefore keep UK plc shut?
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jon
01/02/2021 16:34:03 4 3
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100000 corpses says he wasnt that wrong......why dont you focus on where the real problems are...with bojo and his clowns in govt
Will we have tests for the forthcoming Greenland variant? Or the Svalbard variant? What about the Gibraltar variant and the Mars variant too? I reckon the Antarctic variant may well be along at some point as well. Got tests for those yet? In the meantime can you open up the f*u*c*k*i*n*g country so we can come out of prison and have our lives back please? Thanks a lot! Removed
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01/02/2021 16:26:33 2 0
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Can we also check for the "its not fair" variant , you seem to be showing symptoms
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01/02/2021 16:21:02 59 25
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It's almost as if the UK's test, trace and isolate strategy is all over the place, a bit like the new variants.
NHS vaccine roll out has been superb. If only the NHS had been allowed to tackle test and trace from the start. They're health professionals. Dido Harding isn't.
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01/02/2021 16:26:34 71 13
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The staff dealing with test and trace have admitted they have received abuse and threats by members of the public when contacting them. It is the stupid public who put themselves before the virus that should be castigated.
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01/02/2021 16:50:50 4 5
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Agreed.

The app is optional too. Why? The govt could have said to Apple and Google you have to force install this on all of your phones. Screw what Joe Conspiracy-Nut thinks or says about invasion of privacy or GDPR. Dealing with the pandemic is more important than both. Those phones could also be used to help crack down on people not isolating. I am 100% in favour of Big Brother right now!
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01/02/2021 16:26:35 13 4
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Borders need to be tighter not enough countries on the red list for the quarantine hotels. People are obviously coming in via 3rd countries. Californian variant now causing concern.
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
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01/02/2021 16:27:00 7 6
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Literally no story here. Social distancing and lockdown coupled with higher vaccination rate killed this years flu variant off.

There - you can stop hyperventilating mow.
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01/02/2021 16:38:01 3 1
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Literally no story here. Social distancing and lockdown coupled with higher vaccination rate killed this years flu variant off.

————
Can you comment on why dementia and pneumonia deaths are significantly down too??
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01/02/2021 16:20:49 45 14
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If new variants are always developing, how is the lockdown ever going to end? This is getting ever more depressing and I can see large numbers of people running out of patience after we were led to believe that the vaccine was what would get us out of this
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01/02/2021 16:27:02 31 1
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My guess is that the vaccine will be updated annually, like the flu vaccine is (which works better in some years than others). Different variants may, over time, affect different age profiles or certain regions of the world, due to pre-existing immunity.
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01/02/2021 16:23:42 5 27
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We should have locked our borders down a year ago and we wouldn't be in this mess.

EU have been ripped off by AstraZeneca. How would you feel if they promised UK 100K doses only to turn around and say we'll give you 25K? It doesn't matter who ordered first, they made a promise.
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01/02/2021 16:27:23 9 2
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You have no clue what’s involved, the volume and complexity are way beyond the norm..get a brain
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01/02/2021 16:34:50 0 1
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Australia and New Zealand closed their borders, had an effective track and trace system, and stopped Covid in its tracks, as did many other countries.

UK did not unfortunately.
Will we have tests for the forthcoming Greenland variant? Or the Svalbard variant? What about the Gibraltar variant and the Mars variant too? I reckon the Antarctic variant may well be along at some point as well. Got tests for those yet? In the meantime can you open up the f*u*c*k*i*n*g country so we can come out of prison and have our lives back please? Thanks a lot! Removed
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01/02/2021 16:27:29 0 0
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There's a pandemic going on. Keep opening up the country too early as we have done several times now will ensure we're in the situation for years to come.

Deal with it properly then open up.
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01/02/2021 16:25:20 15 0
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And the interesting thing there is, the Spanish Flu did not originate in Spain, they were simply the first nation to report it.
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01/02/2021 16:27:34 3 1
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The Spanish flu originated in a duck farm in America !!!! .
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01/02/2021 16:21:44 6 15
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You can't fight this thing. Time to stop trying.
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01/02/2021 16:27:38 3 6
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Time to OPEN up society. You get variants of the flu virus every winter. That's what viruses do, they mutate to try and survive against vaccines. This lockdown must end now.
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01/02/2021 16:46:14 1 0
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Sigh.... This isn't a flu virus and it can't mutate anything like as quickly. look up "Antigenic shift" That's what flu virus do. Coronaviruses can't do that
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01/02/2021 16:27:39 83 12
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There have been plenty of mistakes made with locking down too slowly, relaxing lockdowns too quickly, not managing borders, etc but the two things that scientists and the govt have absolutely nailed;

- vaccinations, and;
- DNA sequencing and testing of the various strains of the virus

Well done to all involved.
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01/02/2021 16:47:53 12 16
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Shame we haven’t used that information to trace and isolate the new variants.
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01/02/2021 17:04:42 2 13
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UK vaccine strategy appears to be paying off but is not without risk taken by Boris:

1. Pfizer have said they have NO EVIDENCE that their vaccine will be effective if both doses are given 12 weeks apart - as UK is are doing.

2. Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine trail showed NO EVIDENCE the vaccine is effective for people aged over 65.

We all know Boris is a gambler...
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01/02/2021 17:11:50 0 4
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vaccinations are provided by the NHS
DNA sequencing and testing by the scientists

Nothing to do with the government. It's THANKS to the people who work behind the scenes (such as PHE DHSC and NHS) that do the work and the government are getting rid of PHE!
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01/02/2021 16:19:10 16 1
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We have the UK variant and there’s a Brazilian variant. I’m sure every country will have its own soon.
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01/02/2021 16:27:44 5 1
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I am sure every country already as its own variant. A virus does not choose a country as its prefered destination. It won't refuse to mutate in France because the French have nice cheeses or in Italy because it likes pasta dishes. Viruses mutate regardless and has no respect for international borders or reputation..
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01/02/2021 16:24:40 45 17
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It doesn't matter where the variant comes from it could come from Bognor Regis, the main thing is to really clamp down on these idiots having parties at home and such. On saying that it doesn't help when folk see celebrities and footballers getting away scot free breaking the rules, and just think they can do same.
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01/02/2021 16:27:58 29 2
bbc
Wasn't just Joelinton that broke the rules there, to be fair. The arrogant barber that gave him the cut was just as bad, if not worse.
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01/02/2021 16:49:35 1 1
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Wonder what he was paid for it?
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01/02/2021 17:34:27 2 1
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I believe the barber said it was a photoshoot, and guess that is to circumnavigate the rules. We all know that's lies, of course.
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01/02/2021 16:28:14 33 16
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Even the story says it sounds serious, but isn't really, in context, so why give it full headline sensation treatment?

These stories are just put out to scare people, I think, into compliance, and all it does it persist a foreboding sense of doom, permanently. Really, what is the point of saving some lives, if life for the rest of us is just existing and not living.
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01/02/2021 16:43:51 8 8
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Worth noting that most people "saved" won't be around to see the future anyway.
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01/02/2021 16:49:02 3 1
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This isn’t a scare story. Letting a new variant spread unchecked could set us have to square one and make our vaccination programme useless.
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01/02/2021 16:53:41 2 2
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Do you really think that?
They ( who are they?) are putting out scare stories to get us to obey?
Why?
And even if they (who are they?) are, they (who are they) didn't fool you?
Is that because you're brighter than the rest of us?
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dog
01/02/2021 17:33:00 0 2
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Media always looking for doom.
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01/02/2021 17:40:36 0 0
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You thought of changing yer handle to CheerUP JE ;-)
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01/02/2021 22:51:03 0 0
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Personally, I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.
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01/02/2021 16:20:49 45 14
bbc
If new variants are always developing, how is the lockdown ever going to end? This is getting ever more depressing and I can see large numbers of people running out of patience after we were led to believe that the vaccine was what would get us out of this
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01/02/2021 16:28:25 9 2
bbc
We were not led to believe all would be over with the vaccine. Pathogens like this mutate constantly and the vaccine is the beginning of the fight against transmission. No one ever said it was the final step, just one going in the right direction. Get real
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01/02/2021 16:28:32 4 10
bbc
Is this the SA variant, or the UK mutation of the SA variant? And how did it get here if none of the reported cases have been to SA? Looking forward to Johnson expaining that.
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01/02/2021 16:31:26 10 3
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It may have escaped your attention but the PM is not a scientist
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01/02/2021 16:32:21 2 1
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Because its a transmissible virus, you don't have to go to a country to get it, I doubt 99%of people with covid have been to its country of origin-China.

??
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01/02/2021 16:51:26 0 0
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It’s the SA variant and someone who has been to SA must have not followed quarantine rules to allow it to spread into the local population. This isn’t rocket science.
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01/02/2021 16:15:53 50 41
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Stop calling it the South African variant because you are doing a massive damage to that part of the world and rewriting history, changing facts. Call it a new Covid variant 19A etc....
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01/02/2021 16:28:32 7 0
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Variants are named after the place they are first found. It certainly doesn't mean that is where they originated.

The fact that the UK is a world leader in sequencing means it has a higher probably of finding virus mutations.
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01/02/2021 16:28:37 3 2
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Are any of these new "variants" more deadly than the "Wahun variant" that has already killed so many people worldwide in 2020?
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01/02/2021 16:56:05 0 0
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They spread easier so may cause more infections and therefore more deaths. There is some evidence that they may cause more severe disease.
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01/02/2021 16:22:05 144 22
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Why did capt Toms family take him to Barbados and why did BA offer it.
Holidays abroad should have stopped much sooner and Gov will have a lot of questions to answer after all this is over.
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01/02/2021 16:28:42 28 0
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publicity for BA with the same **** the world attitude they have shown since the beginning.
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xlr
01/02/2021 16:29:18 3 5
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It is still possible that the SA variant has spontaneously mutated in the UK and did not come from SA. The selective pressures on the virus are the same worldwide.
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01/02/2021 16:36:01 1 0
bbc
Statistically very unlikely. Two identical mutations happening about the same time in two different parts of the world?
Odds must be about the same as identical snowflakes. Talking of snowflakes are they back from Austria yet. Maybe the BBC could publish their flight numbers so we can welcome them home as the police sure as well won't bother.
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01/02/2021 16:23:42 5 27
bbc
We should have locked our borders down a year ago and we wouldn't be in this mess.

EU have been ripped off by AstraZeneca. How would you feel if they promised UK 100K doses only to turn around and say we'll give you 25K? It doesn't matter who ordered first, they made a promise.
79
01/02/2021 16:29:30 4 0
bbc
Except that is not what AZ said is it. I'd be surprised if that contract had any date on it given that it was long before approval.
Now if they had "promised" the UK government earlier than the EU, which promise gets priority?
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Ed
01/02/2021 16:21:46 10 3
bbc
My fear is a mutation which the vaccines can't deal with. We can be on a 6 month lockdown every autumn and winter to adjust the vaccines to a new variant.
80
01/02/2021 16:29:35 3 0
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Denmark - mink.
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01/02/2021 16:21:17 103 45
bbc
Why do the BBC give so much prominence to a story when Nick Triggle’s analysis puts it rather more into perspective?

Oh, I remember, it’s because the BBC these days only likes bad news and tabloid-quality journalism.
81
01/02/2021 16:29:39 8 6
bbc
Pop on over to the Daily Mail website. They have gone BIG on this story - whipping up the permanently perturbed Leave voters into a frothing hyperventilating frenzy.

That’s the MSM for you I guess.
57
01/02/2021 16:26:08 7 7
bbc
You can move on and let it kill you then..
82
01/02/2021 16:29:56 3 3
bbc
Yawn - hysterical codswollop
29
01/02/2021 16:22:05 144 22
bbc
Why did capt Toms family take him to Barbados and why did BA offer it.
Holidays abroad should have stopped much sooner and Gov will have a lot of questions to answer after all this is over.
83
01/02/2021 16:30:18 21 1
bbc
Careful now, roller. Questions like that and you'll get called a troll by Holly Willoughby and Philip Schofield!
28
01/02/2021 16:21:54 29 11
bbc
What story? We're in lockdown, so who is going to be catching the flu?
84
01/02/2021 16:30:22 4 0
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So how are we catching coronavirus
264
01/02/2021 16:51:40 1 0
bbc
It survives on surfaces for longer than the flu and the main source of transmission is in the home. You mess out in the public, you catch the virus and then the rest of your family will get it. it only takes one slip up... so is still transferred by those eejits not abiding by the rules.
85
01/02/2021 16:30:23 37 13
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We need to take action against the idiots who are travelling internationally for skiing holidays pretending they are looking for work or business trips. At a minimum the passports should be confiscated but I believe rights to passports should be removed from them for periods up to 10 years. These idiots are spreading the variants which we all will suffer from if not punished.
387
01/02/2021 17:10:14 4 1
bbc
They're trying to put a shape shifting genie back in a bottle, and I think they're dumb enough to keep on trying until the Country has gone, entirely, to the dogs.
Time to follow the science and go back to Valance&Whitty’s Plan A and get the Country moving again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8
86
01/02/2021 16:30:25 20 9
bbc
Lock down, what lock down. The current feeble attempt at asking people to stay home, you wouldn't think it. The roads and city centres are busier than ever.
175
01/02/2021 16:41:26 8 1
bbc
I live in Manchester city centre and it's a ghost town
294
01/02/2021 16:55:05 2 0
bbc
Our city centre is very quiet. There’s nothing open!
469
01/02/2021 17:28:55 2 0
bbc
Very quiet on the roads in Somerset, including City of Bristol.
87
01/02/2021 16:27:52 103 14
bbc
16% reduction in cases today compared with last Monday.
Hospital admissions down 5,605 in last 7 days (to 28th Jan). 20% reduction.
31% reduction in deaths compared to last Monday.
9.3million first jabs.
407million jabs ordered.

Keep following the rules. Keep supporting the NHS.
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01/02/2021 16:48:34 62 7
bbc
Totally 110% agree - but the rules should apply to everyone and unfortunately there are a considerable amount of people in this country who think they are entitled to do whatever they want.
298
01/02/2021 16:55:18 2 13
bbc
UK vaccine strategy appears to be paying off but is not without risk taken by Boris:

1. Pfizer have said they have NO EVIDENCE that their vaccine will be effective if both doses are given 12 weeks apart - as UK is are doing.

2. Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine trail showed NO EVIDENCE the vaccine is effective for people aged over 65.

We all know Boris is a gambler....
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Bob
01/02/2021 17:02:20 2 0
bbc
Deaths among the very elderly also showing signs of falling faster than younger age groups, which is doubly good news when you consider the elderly's rise lagged the younger groups to begin with.
751
01/02/2021 18:33:46 0 0
bbc
Save the NHS is an acute problem, not a chronic one.

The “Save the NHS” argument can’t be used forever. It was fine when we didn’t know covid was coming and everyone needed to act but there is time for foresight now & the NHS should be expanded to cope.

The idea that restrictions can be continued, on and off, until the majority of the world is vaccinated won’t wash with a lot of people.
824
01/02/2021 22:44:54 0 0
bbc
my sister works in local hospital, red (covid) wards are being closed now, cases must be dropping, this is not being reported by local or regional press, they are still busy looking for another 'crying' nurse or doctor to interview......
31
01/02/2021 16:22:15 30 25
bbc
Not going to happen.
88
01/02/2021 16:28:02 21 2
bbc
Much as I am a natural Conservative, they have lost a lot of kudos by not clamping down on international travel. Easier said than done early on, but no reason to allow travel now. For any reason, apaert from perhaps scientists and doctors involved in the Covid push.
210
01/02/2021 16:45:10 1 5
bbc
So no exceptions, except for the two you list in the same sentence.
342
01/02/2021 17:01:34 0 1
bbc
And work
465
01/02/2021 17:27:22 1 0
bbc
And the England cricket team :-P
89
01/02/2021 16:30:41 79 9
bbc
The virus will never go away and will continuously mutate its way around whatever vaccines happen to be out there. Just like all the other coronaviruses/flus that we've been living with for thousands of years.

It's up to us to decide at what point we accept this and move on.
208
01/02/2021 16:45:00 24 6
bbc
Wise words George.
Hopefully at some point before we are so skint, we can't afford the NHS!
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Meh
01/02/2021 16:52:09 4 0
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This response frustrates me a bit.

Everyone knows this, but we can’t just ‘move on’ as the NHS has a capacity limit - and if that breaks we end up with a national health crisis - basically no resource/beds and people dying of completely treatable conditions.

It’s never been about people dying, it’s simply about NHS capacity. The only solution is vaccines combined with eventual heard immunity.
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Ann
01/02/2021 17:48:41 3 0
bbc
True. This constant fear mongering is exhausting.
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BAZ
01/02/2021 16:20:47 42 10
bbc
So why have we not adopted the quarantine hotel concept for people coming in from overseas? It has worked in Australia and New Zealand since the start of the pandemic. Australia has less total cases than we report for each day.
90
01/02/2021 16:30:44 11 3
bbc
Australia is a massive country and has only a small percentage of our population. Can't you understand high density living like that of ours is why we have so many cases, and a stupid population that will not always comply, no matter what is asked of them. As for New Zealand, same size as us virtually, with the population of half of London.
371
01/02/2021 17:06:42 5 0
bbc
Have a look at the stats for Japan . Nearly three times population, much higher density- 4,600 deaths., compared to our 100k plus. There are other examples from around the world. Look at the evidence then we can try and fix stuff rather than bullshitting.
91
01/02/2021 16:30:51 9 7
bbc
For an entire year I’ve been calling for the borders to be closed.

100k dead bodies in the Uk alone and millions worldwide by a failure to control borders. Other countries have shown it can be done, save lives and allow a normal life.

Even a year later, air travel covidiots are still being allowed to mass kill.

When a more deadly virus emerges, they’ll be allowed to kill half the population.
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ged
01/02/2021 16:30:56 1 3
bbc
Liberal Cotters Covid - the Tory answer to the social care crisis.

The lads in my local's dart team, whenever they hear someone come out with a pathetic load of twaddle, are fond of telling them "what a silly clot they are".
138
01/02/2021 16:36:30 4 0
bbc
i have no idea what you are saying, could you translate into english please...
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TV
01/02/2021 16:23:47 13 16
bbc
Come on people / BBC - you know this is nonsense. Targeted testing to keep the propaganda alive (case numbers high). Stop this, open schools, shield the vulnerable until vaccinated and move on - before it's too late.
93
01/02/2021 16:31:21 3 0
bbc
So you wouldn't mind working in a COVID ward in your nearest hospital for 10-days without any PPE, right? We will crowd-fund the loss of earnings...

No? Thought so...
74
01/02/2021 16:28:32 4 10
bbc
Is this the SA variant, or the UK mutation of the SA variant? And how did it get here if none of the reported cases have been to SA? Looking forward to Johnson expaining that.
94
01/02/2021 16:31:26 10 3
bbc
It may have escaped your attention but the PM is not a scientist
I'd like the BBC to run the story and open the HYS on the flu disappearing by 95%.... go on, you know you want to. Removed
95
01/02/2021 16:31:32 2 3
bbc
I have heard people say, convinced there’s no flu because we’re all wearing masks! ??????
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01/02/2021 16:25:24 25 18
bbc
The Gov are doing a fantastic job, as an independent nation we are leading the world in vaccinations and testing rates

Well done Astra Zen and others

Well done Boris for providing the funding at the outset to ensure we lead all others

Well done
96
01/02/2021 16:31:35 18 7
bbc
Johnson hasn't done or discovered anything. The Scientists have. With our money, not his.
373
01/02/2021 17:04:20 1 0
bbc
What Boris has done is to strike a balance between protecting lives and preserving some level of economic activity. It's a hard thing to do, and there will always be people saying he's gone too far one way or the other. If the scientists had been given free rein, we'd have lower Covid figures but a totally trashed economy.
418
01/02/2021 17:17:04 0 1
bbc
Spot on! He's just got in the way of professionals in an attempt to court 'popularity'. Some are falling for it (those who were signed up to the cult already).
32
01/02/2021 16:22:22 9 4
bbc
good to see the uk leading the way.
97
01/02/2021 16:30:28 6 1
bbc
We certainly are, 9 million vaccines administered and not one adverse reactiuon reported, amazing...
283
01/02/2021 16:53:30 0 0
bbc
There have been adverse reaction but none very serious. Within the first week of administering the Pfizer vaccine they saw three allergic type reactions. People who carry epi-pens were advised not to have the mRNA vaccines.
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jon
01/02/2021 16:31:47 11 12
bbc
i still dont see how so many new cases are cropping up every day...where, who...course if we had track and trace we'd know the answers...as for the SA variant well if you will allow people to fly in from everywhere then you're gonna get new variants.....idiot govt with a total idiot in charge
131
01/02/2021 16:35:26 6 4
bbc
Its track and trace that found this out, now whose the idiot?
163
01/02/2021 16:40:28 2 0
bbc
How about the people who don't fly in but illegally come by boat?
55
01/02/2021 16:20:46 15 5
bbc
Every variant should be called the Chinese 1 or 2 or 3. They started it and then lied to the world. They should be sued for trillions.
99
01/02/2021 16:31:48 2 2
bbc
then according to that the American Government should be sued for the Spanish flu , as it originated in America .
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01/02/2021 16:21:44 6 15
bbc
You can't fight this thing. Time to stop trying.
100
01/02/2021 16:31:53 2 0
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Just give up? No thanks. There's afar more to life than the pub/beaches. Lockdown isn't even that difficult just some people need more assistance than others and should be given it. A year on we're still arguing about whther it is the right thing to do yet Australia had 1 case in Perth in 10 months and locked down immediately - because lockdown works.