Covid-19: UK orders extra 40m doses of Valneva vaccine
01/02/2021 | news | health | 2,018
Deliveries will come towards next winter when people may need to be revaccinated.
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01/02/2021 12:10:21 7 40
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I know it's better to be safe than sorry but ordering this many vaccines seems a tad overkill to me....I'm no expert though, just a thought really.
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OwO
01/02/2021 12:13:30 23 6
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"I'm no expert"

Says it all, really
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01/02/2021 12:13:39 9 2
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Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it
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01/02/2021 12:13:41 6 1
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You don't want to get to next winter and be told there's no supply of vaccine for the re vaccination programme... back in the house with you, do you?

I don't. The more the merrier.
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01/02/2021 12:15:11 5 3
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Maybe the UK government are going to sent some of its surplus to countries that cannot afford to vaccine they people.
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01/02/2021 13:41:17 1 0
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Remember there has to be two doses to every one person vaccinated.
BSA
01/02/2021 19:28:20 1 0
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It doesn’t spoil, so we are ready for next year.
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01/02/2021 12:09:43 347 21
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Excellent news. The more, the merrier.
The vaccine rollout is a stand-out success. Congrats to all concerned
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:31:54 7 33
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This is good news.

Time to open all borders and schools and get the economy restarted.
01/02/2021 14:02:40 0 0
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The NHS are the one rolling out the vaccine.
01/02/2021 14:27:35 3 0
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The UK government has done an excellent job. I wish the same could be said of the Scottish Government but the vaccination roll-out has been a shambles here
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01/02/2021 12:11:03 34 11
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legendary
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01/02/2021 12:27:00 23 13
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Boris the genius
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01/02/2021 12:12:08 599 49
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Hats off to the Government on this one, the vaccine programme is truly 'world beating' currently. Good to see them being pre-active looking at next winter and further re-vaccination too.
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01/02/2021 12:22:09 88 51
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There will be an annual jab like the flu jab. The vaccines we are using at present are only in development and phase 3 trials will be completed by mid 2023
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01/02/2021 12:24:55 33 30
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It does seem to be a great response in procuring vaccines and being front of the queue. Credit where it's due. One of few positives this gov't have shown.

I do wonder how much we're paying though - apparently we're playing 7x as much for the AZ vaccine as the EU. Seems a bit steep - no wonder AZ sided with us!
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01/02/2021 12:31:39 35 47
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Considering how badly they've handled the spread of the virus, we need a world beating solution.
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01/02/2021 12:32:58 79 4
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How about 'hats off' to the scientists who actually developed them.

And then we could also express our thanks by protecting their funding!
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01/02/2021 12:37:40 31 85
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It would be world beating if people were given the vaccines and the time stipulated and not 12 weeks apart. When you see headlines such as 9 million vaccinated it's a false narrative as that is not the case. If you want to read about a world beating programme, read about Israel, or even the UAE.
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01/02/2021 12:39:20 30 13
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Agreed, they have done an excellent job with jab 1 of 2, but just remember that people aren't fully vaccinated until they receive both doses (uk only have done about 500,000 of these). I have faith round 2 will go well but we need to make sure we are not creating a mutation ground for the virus to become immune to the vaccine response
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01/02/2021 12:40:04 26 48
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It will soon wear off.
Mind you, after the world-beating Test and Trace rollout and PPE procurement, they need something to work.
I wouldn't heap too much praise on them as most vaccination and healthcare programs run quite nicely without politicians sticking their oar in.
They couldn't think it up themselves, so maybe the scientific and medical advisors should get a bit more praise.
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01/02/2021 12:43:32 12 31
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It has to be ‘world beating’ because UK’s Covid death rate is also ‘world beating’ sadly!!!
Securing 407 million doses for a population of 68 million is however not necessary unless it’s really a competition (doesn’t need to be) and you want to win by hindering the vaccine programmes elsewhere around the world..
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01/02/2021 12:41:37 9 27
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Oven-beating world-ready !!!!!!!

Joker.
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01/02/2021 12:52:39 31 2
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This is real forward planning. The chances are we are going to need yearly boosters. If we have over ordered then excess can always be redirected elsewhere. There will be plenty of takers.

Another plus is all this manufacturing could make us an even bigger player in pharmaceuticals worldwide.
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01/02/2021 12:56:03 12 2
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We are not trying to beat the world, we are trying to save it. Vaccine nationalism will get us nowhere. You do know that unless the whole World is vaccinated it might all be in vain. The current vaccines are symptomatic insofar as they reduce the symptoms, and it is the symptoms that kill people but they may not protect us from catching the virus
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01/02/2021 13:07:56 4 19
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We are the only country in the world ignoring the recommended spacing between vaccine doses. So all this "following the science" is a bit hollow.
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01/02/2021 13:08:11 2 14
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What about the 100,000 + people who have died
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01/02/2021 13:10:10 1 11
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Wrong! Surely the Coronaviruses in the UK will have mutated by 2022 and the Valneva vaccine will not be effective against those future latest strains.
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01/02/2021 13:11:51 2 6
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People should be told that thousand of OAPs over 75 still awaiting to hear,thus must not let slip their guard,it's too early to start patting people on their back,let's wait until this killer virus is completely destroyed
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01/02/2021 13:20:09 13 0
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Von Der Leyen: as Family Minister she failed in fertility remit - nothing promised delivered. As Social Affairs Minister hot lunches for schools went wrong - no meals for kids. As Defence Minister she left the Bundeswehr using broomsticks as guns on a NATO exercise - army still not recovered. Any surprises re her handling of vaccines? Scotland lucky they're not in the EU!! Well done UK!
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01/02/2021 13:27:22 0 1
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Unfortunately, it is not enough. Covid for ever or eliminate Sars-Cov-2 is now a no brainr. Of course the means is a global response and that cannot be done, can it?

Isolate humanity for 30 days. It's a cost equation.
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01/02/2021 13:27:36 1 17
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It will need to be "world beating" due to the world beating incompetence they have shown at everything else related to covid or the idiotic decision to leave the EU. And of course, because of the UK's world beating pile of dead bodies. Johnson deserves to spend the rest of life in jail for his catastrophic mismanagement of covid. This is all on him.
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01/02/2021 13:33:39 1 12
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Not so sure of that. I think, at great cost they have backed every horse in the vaccine race, including some lame donkeys. corners were cut regarding regulatory process so that will tell over time as well as picking up the bill. The government has been totally incompetent on managing risk and logistics and I have no confidence that second doses that are still required will be managed coherently
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01/02/2021 13:38:27 3 11
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UK 13% of population Israel 54%.
01/02/2021 13:55:18 2 4
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Or the NHS staff. volunteers and med students being drafted in to support when the government has done all it can to destroy the NHS over the years...
01/02/2021 14:02:15 3 2
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That’s what happens when you let the nhs take control the rollout.
01/02/2021 14:06:18 4 0
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Doesn't need to be world beating

Virus beating is enough
01/02/2021 14:16:45 2 2
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Your right. Unfortunately, we have the worst death rate in the developed world so they were less than "pre-active" at the start.
01/02/2021 14:19:38 4 1
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Do you remember the Remainers predicting armageddon in 2020 when the UK opted out of the EU vaccine programme, preferring to go it alone. How did one Labour MP put it ...”dumb and dumber”!

Boris proved right!
01/02/2021 14:20:46 2 2
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The government had to have a real success eventually, (after multiple lash up's). They have shown a real foresight in buying jabs for the future and these jabs will develop as the virus mutates. I think that it is important to remember that it is the NHS not the government, doing the roll-out and I also feel that the less any ministers are involved the greater the chance of real success.
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01/02/2021 12:12:13 224 67
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Bravo, the UK should run the EU as well
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01/02/2021 12:16:31 213 267
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Well we used to have a big say in the running of it.
We are well in the lead on vaccine rollout. But we are also well in the lead on the number of deaths.
So I doubt any of the EU27 nations would wish to have Bungling Boris, Hapless Hancock, and Lady Dido running their fight against the pandemic.
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01/02/2021 12:29:31 42 44
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We were one of the 3 main powers in the EU, so we pretty much did, it was the leavers who weren't content about it.

Britain was actually due to get one of the presidencies of the EU over the past 5 years but it was turned down by May as she felt it would have been a conflict of interests.

People really should have learnt more about the EU before the vote
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01/02/2021 12:30:54 23 38
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Sounds about right.

UK - a union with freedom of movement, shared currency, rights to live and work in multiple countries; good because it's run by Westminster & everyone speaks English.

EU - a union with freedom of movement, shared currency, rights to live and work in multiple countries; bad because it's not run by Westminster and not quite everyone speaks English.
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01/02/2021 12:57:22 5 6
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Surely not , definitely not with that useless excuse of a PM at the helm.he can't the UK far less the EU
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01/02/2021 13:14:23 3 8
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the uk could,nt run a brownie pack.
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Tim
01/02/2021 13:19:52 1 1
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HAD IS DONE SO FROM THE BEGINNING; IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SUCCESS AND WE NEED NOT HAVE LEFT.
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01/02/2021 13:33:42 1 1
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On the Basis of a failed EU Public Procurement project. A Project it was never set up for ? v 1 successful public procurement project on behalf of the UK. (lets not get into PPE ferries and the like) The EU would not have liked the Weakening of the UK Judiciary, the Weakening of workers rights, The proposed reduction in standards. EU is good for the people in the EU not procurement.
01/02/2021 14:11:35 1 3
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We tried that, but Cameron failed.
Much better when they ran us.
And before anyone mentions covid, We were still in the EU when it started, and any other country could have done as we did, due to their sovereignty.
And had higher death rates.
01/02/2021 14:17:39 2 3
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We used to, until gullible people listened too much to Farage. We could still be in the driving seat but we're standing on the verge trying to hitch a lift....somewhere. Worth noting that we're members of no trade bloc now & probably why we're trying to join one 10,000 miles away (which the USA is not in).
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01/02/2021 12:12:49 7 29
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Starting to look like the UK is stockpiling.
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01/02/2021 12:13:04 12 3
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Great news :-))
It appears the threat of vaccine nationalism and the associated jingoism has died down. Good.
In that spirit, as a social care worker who received the Pfizer vaccine on Saturday, I would like to thank some people.
The Germans/Americans/Turks for creating the vaccine.
The Belgians for manufacturing it.
The UK government for purchasing it.
The Scottish government/NHS for delivery and administration
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01/02/2021 12:22:10 5 13
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Who do you think was responsible for the vaccine nationalism and what you call 'associated jingoism'? Surely not the British government?
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01/02/2021 12:31:32 2 2
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Is the Scottish Government delivering it to Wales?, NI............... EU? Not seen too many SNP members wondering around Wandsworth handing out vaccine, so England certainly won't get any Scottish Government handouts. If you hate the BBC why post here?
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01/02/2021 12:54:58 1 1
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You need to do more research on the creation/manufacture of the vaccines. It was a multinational effort not "created" in isolation by Germany, America or Turkey.
Pfizer originated in the 1950s as a UK company and has merged/grown into the multinational company it is today. UK research bodies are acknowledged as world leaders in virus research.
Scotland government or Scottish Health Service?
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01/02/2021 13:03:34 1 1
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I hope that's the second shot you're referring to: it's pretty meaningless without it.
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01/02/2021 13:08:44 1 1
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.........but why is the vaccination rate in Scotland so far behind that south of the border? Any thoughts?
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01/02/2021 13:08:53 2 0
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take it was not the AZ vaccine which was developed in oxford
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01/02/2021 13:27:43 2 0
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You've missed the Oxford group who created their/AZ's vaccine.
They made the first batch for the initial trials in-house.
Funding was from Oxford Uni, then SEPI and then the British Government.
Later batches made in Italy, Holland and India.
Then AZ got involved, under licence from the Uni, to get it licensed manufactured and distributed.
Lots of volunteers in the distribution too (eg St Johns)
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01/02/2021 12:13:06 6 13
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At this point we have enough vaccine on order to give the entire population of the UK 2 doses, twice, with a fair chunk left over.

Fair play, the vaccine rollout has been a big success for the government but unless we're now ordering for next year, maybe it's time to put a hold on on new orders, at least until we see how the current batches hold up against the new Covid variants?
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01/02/2021 13:05:08 1 0
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If we have enough for "twice over", we should use it properly and keep to the manufacturer's 3-week interval between innoculations.
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01/02/2021 12:10:21 7 40
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I know it's better to be safe than sorry but ordering this many vaccines seems a tad overkill to me....I'm no expert though, just a thought really.
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OwO
01/02/2021 12:13:30 23 6
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"I'm no expert"

Says it all, really
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01/02/2021 13:02:08 2 1
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A mean and meaningless thing to say.
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01/02/2021 12:10:21 7 40
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I know it's better to be safe than sorry but ordering this many vaccines seems a tad overkill to me....I'm no expert though, just a thought really.
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01/02/2021 12:13:39 9 2
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Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it
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01/02/2021 12:15:56 2 1
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True.
MOT
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01/02/2021 12:10:21 7 40
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I know it's better to be safe than sorry but ordering this many vaccines seems a tad overkill to me....I'm no expert though, just a thought really.
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01/02/2021 12:13:41 6 1
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You don't want to get to next winter and be told there's no supply of vaccine for the re vaccination programme... back in the house with you, do you?

I don't. The more the merrier.
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01/02/2021 12:13:52 4 20
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Doses arriving later in the year are unlikely to be of use here. With current predictions that everyone will have been vaccinated by September.
Can't be useful against resilient variants, as they don't know what those will look like yet. Not appealing to late adopters as it will have have the same body of proof as the pfizer and Oxford vaccines already given to millions.
Useful for other countries
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01/02/2021 12:20:07 8 0
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You are too negative. A portfolio of vaccines will be increasingly useful as time goes on, and this one is being manfactured in the UK, which helps from the supply point of view.
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01/02/2021 12:20:47 1 0
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but how long will protection last for? No one knows and much better to be as prepared as you can be surely?
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01/02/2021 12:14:16 55 18
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Ursula quick - there's vaccines!!! Sorry what was that? Oh , you have to be diplomatic about it. Good idea, don't want to have to backtrack and eat humble pie eh?
815
01/02/2021 13:28:53 6 29
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Didn't see you complaining when Boris was making U-turn after U-turn on a more serious and grander scale. Nobody is infallible, so jog on with your pathetic cherry picking.
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01/02/2021 12:14:22 105 5
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Sensible move. Protection for the future and a start in developing our own vaccine production facility for long term security.
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01/02/2021 12:23:17 45 0
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Quite right - this is long term, it is here to stay with us now so not all about vaccines but also getting going again
01/02/2021 15:10:24 1 0
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Let’s hope it will encourage kids to do science and engineering degrees instead of the waste of money stuff that Blair had a hand in creating like media studies etc.
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01/02/2021 12:14:34 226 14
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I'm really looking forward to the summer. There might be still some restrictions, but all theses vaccines give me so much hope I can take my young sons out camping in the great British countryside. Thanks to everyone involved.
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01/02/2021 12:16:24 98 12
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or just in the garden if worse comes to the worse!
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01/02/2021 12:38:38 9 30
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I think you’re being a little overly optimistic. The vaccines do nothing to prevent transmission, which is the current excuse for keeping us all under house arrest.

Pubs, gyms and restaurants clearly weren’t responsible for spreading the virus either, yet they still remain firmly closed.

If you’re pinning your hopes on the vaccines giving us our freedom back I think you’re sadly mistaken
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01/02/2021 13:16:26 7 0
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Well said and ditto looking forward to some freedom...
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01/02/2021 13:34:04 6 1
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You can go to Barbados whenever you feel like it, apparently.
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01/02/2021 13:38:55 2 13
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GREAT Britain!!! The GREATEST BRITAIN the world!!! We are GREAT and MIGHTY! We rule the WORLD and we are the RULERS of the SEAS!! (Sarcasm).
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01/02/2021 13:42:15 4 0
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Don't get ahead of yourself...

Unfortunately the Vaccine is only the beginning of the story not the end..
01/02/2021 13:57:04 0 4
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Yep, keep thinking that, LOL.
01/02/2021 14:05:37 1 0
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You could have done that this Summer. No restrictions preventing you.
01/02/2021 14:08:30 1 0
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Me too. I love wild camping, none for almost 18 months.
Plenty to do at home atm.
Covering over the scratches where I have been climbing the bl***y walls.
01/02/2021 14:38:57 6 0
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12 down votes for saying you cant wait for summertime and spend a bit of quality time with your family,what sort of people dont agree with that,you have to wonder sometimes.
01/02/2021 15:28:39 1 2
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'The Great British Countryside'. Unlikely. It's virtually impossible to find a non privately owned square of land in which to place a tent and light a fire.
02/02/2021 10:55:17 0 0
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Don't pinch my pitch
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01/02/2021 12:15:05 21 22
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"UK orders extra 40m doses of Valneva vaccine, despite Brexit!"

Looking forward to seeing the Remoaner's comments supporting the EU's recent faux pas
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01/02/2021 12:20:04 9 0
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It was worse than a faux pas, I reckon. But what puzzles me is how Sweden, an EU member, appeared to not be involved or engaged in the fuss, when AstraZeneca is half Swedish.
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01/02/2021 12:21:55 2 1
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Don't make this a Brexit issue. We had more than an enough on that subject.
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01/02/2021 12:23:39 1 3
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Since the remain lobby is comprised of rational, intelligent people, you won't see any. The EU is a trading bloc, not a collective of infallible saints, and has made a complete balls of the whole vaccine issue. Just for fun, though, I'll suggest that it wouldn't have happened anyway if we still had EU membership. : )

Would it?!
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01/02/2021 12:26:33 2 2
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What's Remoaner?

Oh god I remember, yes your heady days of June '16 - the zenith of your life. Yes I was a remoaner, a snowflake, a rubbish person; but it is so long ago now that I almost had to look it up. But you see, I just want to get on with this now & not poke fun at people for their opinions or go purple with fury every time a European person is mentioned. More vaccines the better.
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01/02/2021 12:31:13 2 0
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Let's not be too hasty, and let's not revel the fact ordinary Europeans aren't getting vaccinated.
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CH
01/02/2021 12:43:25 0 2
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Yes the EU cocked up but where's your criticism of the govt's failings in dealing with Covid?
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01/02/2021 12:10:21 7 40
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I know it's better to be safe than sorry but ordering this many vaccines seems a tad overkill to me....I'm no expert though, just a thought really.
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01/02/2021 12:15:11 5 3
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Maybe the UK government are going to sent some of its surplus to countries that cannot afford to vaccine they people.
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01/02/2021 12:17:36 5 0
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That is the plan and they have already committed to the WHO, so have the EU, US, etc.
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01/02/2021 12:15:28 5 31
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OOOH GREAT!!! Can we get the f*c*ing schools open now then please?!!
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01/02/2021 12:17:59 4 0
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Schools are open.
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KRD
01/02/2021 12:25:06 1 0
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Sorry but can you please tell me what a "facing" school is?
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01/02/2021 12:15:57 240 61
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Well done our goverment, a little praise from the anti goverment, anti British BBC might help as well (a little bit anyway) to repair the rift between the BBC and the great British people.
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01/02/2021 12:23:27 211 48
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It must pain the BBC to have to report positive Gov achievements.
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01/02/2021 12:26:42 27 0
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Jeremy Vine struggling to come to terms with that when a listener spoke just now on BBCR2
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01/02/2021 12:51:23 28 7
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BBC appear to be anti UK Govt but pro anyone else.
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01/02/2021 13:15:28 11 26
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If you really think a single achievement undoes the constant amount of failures and show of incompetence in every other area of governance then you truly are deluded. You can blame the BBC all you want but that will never change your state of ignorance.
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01/02/2021 13:17:50 8 25
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The BBC factually reported this good news story which is its job as a news organisation, not putting out pro-Government propoganda. Sad that some people are only interested in finding an anti-BBC angle to every story.
01/02/2021 14:18:35 3 6
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The BBC is not anti British. What evidence do you have?....bluff called.
01/02/2021 14:22:02 3 8
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There is a rift between the BBC and ALL British people is there? I doubt it. Speak for yourself only and not others.
01/02/2021 14:30:51 3 1
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maybe the bbc and the silent majority can become one again,and put some more effort in reporting vaccine succsess and brexit starting off pretty ok etc, no armagedeon yet
01/02/2021 15:05:07 1 4
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What rift? The only rift is created by people who take the Daily Mail as gospel.
01/02/2021 15:06:31 1 3
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UK Gov well done, What for trying to get us out of the mess they got us into, probably more to come with the second vaccination, 12 weeks or more away.
It is the NHS frontliners who should receive the well done.
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01/02/2021 12:15:59 5 6
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"The government says it will give flexibility should people need revaccinating next winter or beyond."

That's assuming the virus hasn't evolved to dodge the current formulation
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01/02/2021 12:19:46 5 0
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The alternative is to assume it will evolve and not bother with vaccinations - hardly a sensible approach
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01/02/2021 12:13:23 1 16
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Good news - but don't we have enough on order now ? Is this just a deal to appease the French ?
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01/02/2021 12:18:58 5 0
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No - no one knows how long the protection given by the vaccines will last. If it doesn't last into next winter the whole process will have to start again.
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01/02/2021 12:20:18 1 0
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We will all probably need to be vaccinated on an annual basis. That’s why this goes into 2022
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01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
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Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
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01/02/2021 12:18:36 4 9
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Because they skipped animal testing, the animals being tested are now human.

No vaccine has ever worked on a corona virus without serious side effects for the tested animals, side effects including death.
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01/02/2021 12:19:24 2 2
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Maybe they made a donation to the Tory party?
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01/02/2021 12:20:19 1 1
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They have explained, permission was given to shortcut the tail end quality checks and also extrapolate findings. The risk was minimal and as things progress with close to 10m vaccinated, almost nil. You are not the French president in disguise?
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01/02/2021 12:20:38 1 1
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There always the one to spoil the party & today its you.
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01/02/2021 12:18:48 2 0
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Because they wouldn't supply us otherwise can't blame them really
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01/02/2021 12:20:32 1 0
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Because Phase 3 trials will only be completed by mid 2023
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KRD
01/02/2021 12:23:46 3 0
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For the same reason the nuclear industry has indemnity provided by the Government. They are not expecting problems but in the event of claims, the size of the claims would be huge & unmanageable by commercial companies.
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01/02/2021 12:32:51 2 0
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No one in their right mind would produce a vaccine for covid without it.
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01/02/2021 12:34:33 1 0
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Technically it’s an indemnity, not immunity.
The indemnity is primarily in relation to efficacy , to ensure no claims in contract for “ non - performance”, can be initiated, should re infection occur in those vaccinated. Side effects are expected to be generally minor, but still evident.
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01/02/2021 12:13:46 18 23
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Vaccine rollout has been great. Well done NHS, thank god it wasn’t outsourced to Tory chums
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01/02/2021 12:18:08 2 10
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Why?
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01/02/2021 12:19:06 4 0
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Bang on the money!!!
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01/02/2021 12:13:39 9 2
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Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it
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01/02/2021 12:15:56 2 1
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True.
MOT
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01/02/2021 12:09:43 347 21
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Excellent news. The more, the merrier.
The vaccine rollout is a stand-out success. Congrats to all concerned
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:20:54 40 46
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Who pays for the NHS ?

Remember if you work in the public sector...you're a tax recycler....not a tax payer.
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01/02/2021 12:21:34 16 9
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Amen
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01/02/2021 12:20:05 47 12
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Vaccine task force UK - Chaired and run by Kate Bingham, a successful private businesswoman.
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01/02/2021 12:21:30 19 10
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You certainly live up to your name.
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01/02/2021 12:24:51 47 5
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But the private sector created the vaccines!
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01/02/2021 12:29:06 25 14
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Couldn’t resist putting a little dampener on it, could you?
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01/02/2021 12:50:04 18 9
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It is absolutely NOT the NHS that has delivered the vaccine success. They're merely the needle-stickers (supported by an army of volunteers and with the help of military planning).

If the NHS were responsible for developing and delivering a vaccine they'd still be in their 3,267th meeting discussing what to call it and appointing a diversity consultant to ask if the word vaccine is offensive.
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01/02/2021 12:50:07 14 4
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The government has enabled this by proactively procuring the vaccines, from the private sector, in good time, and also engaging the army to help with logistics. The NHS have cried wolf EVERY year I can remember about being overwhelmed, having queuing ambulances and treating people on trolleys.Staff are superb, but the NHS as an organisation is not fit for purpose.
Management clearout required.
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01/02/2021 12:51:43 24 1
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GPs are delivering a lot of the vaccines in our area.

GPs are private sector, with an arrangement to provide services to the NHS. GPs are either partners (therefore owners of their practice and self-employed) or salaried (working for the practice partners, not the NHS).

Maybe let's just applaud everyone involved, rather than try to score private vs public points eh?
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01/02/2021 13:19:14 1 0
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Spot on!
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01/02/2021 13:23:42 6 1
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Yes but it is the private sector which manufactures the vaccine and operates the very specialised logistics which get the product to the NHS vaccination centres - so it’s a victory for public and private operations working together effectively to deliver a common outcome - please don’t try to score pointless and incorrect political points of this success
776
01/02/2021 13:25:33 6 4
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Actually the private sector are all over this.

AstraZeneca, GP Practices, Pharmacy's, delivery and storage networks, surgical equipment manufacturers, vaccine manufacturers, transport hubs, refrigeration service engineers, hygiene and sanitary suppliers, ppe suppliers, wast collection and disposal engineers and processors... the list is endless.

Without private sector you have no NHS. Grow up.
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01/02/2021 13:38:57 5 2
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"The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it."

That's unfair, the NHS discovered steroid treatments and anti-arthritic treatments as well.

The supply of vaccine was delivered by a Hedge Fund Manager, proof that if you give all the jobs and contracts to the partners and blood relations of Tory MPs, eventually you'll find one who'll do a brilliant job.
01/02/2021 13:50:35 5 1
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"The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it."

Actually the testing per capita quickly outstripped most countries.

Also while unemployment will go up a bit it is still remarkably low, all things considered
01/02/2021 14:24:47 4 0
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amazing statement my daughter works in private sector and working to cover staff in nhs who are now doing a wonderful job vaccinateing us ,it is a joint effort
01/02/2021 14:43:59 0 0
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The NHS may be delivering the vaccine,but the private sector developed it, or are AstraZenica not a private company.
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01/02/2021 12:14:34 226 14
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I'm really looking forward to the summer. There might be still some restrictions, but all theses vaccines give me so much hope I can take my young sons out camping in the great British countryside. Thanks to everyone involved.
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01/02/2021 12:16:24 98 12
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or just in the garden if worse comes to the worse!
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01/02/2021 12:48:36 11 0
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Thats the spirit!
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01/02/2021 13:20:02 2 3
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*worst*
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01/02/2021 12:12:13 224 67
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Bravo, the UK should run the EU as well
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01/02/2021 12:16:31 213 267
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Well we used to have a big say in the running of it.
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01/02/2021 12:19:57 77 40
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We really didn't.
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01/02/2021 12:24:58 43 19
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Not since Maggie.
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01/02/2021 12:30:39 16 17
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Very true.
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01/02/2021 12:27:11 40 23
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no we did not- who told you that tony blair
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01/02/2021 12:31:28 23 13
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What a pathetic post, can't resist a Brexit dig even though the article is about how well the UK is dealing with covid vaccinations.
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01/02/2021 12:34:52 23 12
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We didn’t we were always ignored
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01/02/2021 12:44:27 15 8
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Yeah and we paid more into it than anyone else
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01/02/2021 12:54:08 7 5
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Hilarious!
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01/02/2021 13:14:49 4 3
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But did they listen no !!!
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01/02/2021 13:18:04 6 6
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We have never had any sort of say in the running of it (the EU)
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01/02/2021 13:30:04 1 2
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Except we didnt.
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MVS
01/02/2021 13:46:58 1 0
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And as soon as we stopped having that say the EU descended into chaos. Maybe they do need us more than we need them :)
01/02/2021 14:14:49 3 1
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"Well we used to have a big say in the running of it."

Not since Maggie's man Arthur Cockfield put the single market together.

Once we left the ERM and didn't join the Euro we were always going to be on the periphery.

Further accessions have weakened our QMV (most remainers won't know what that is) and reduced our % of MEPs).

When we left our 'influence' was mostly in the heads of the deluded
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01/02/2021 12:16:51 128 11
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Fantastic Job to all involved. The UK leading the fight against this horrible virus.
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01/02/2021 12:19:35 40 134
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We're certainly contributing but I don't knw by what measure you think we're leading?
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01/02/2021 12:17:06 5 7
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The delivery schedule is what we need to see
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01/02/2021 12:17:23 174 32
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Reportedly Ursula Van Leyden is to make a record, a reissue of the Freddie Mercury classic

"I want it all and I want it now"
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01/02/2021 12:22:17 116 18
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We had one earlier too.

'I want to break free'
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01/02/2021 12:39:41 1 11
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It’s called protectionism. Like us ordering far more vaccines than we actually need. In any case, didn’t we declare in 2016 that we could live our lives without the EU.
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01/02/2021 12:56:52 16 0
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Or maybe "Egg on my face, big disgrace, spitting my bile all over the place."
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01/02/2021 13:13:31 12 0
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Or given her record of cock-ups in German domestic politics;
"Whoops I did it again"
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01/02/2021 13:25:42 6 0
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But quoting the Rolling Stones:-

"You Can't Always Get Want Want"

And too boot - seldom do, whoever you think you are.
pgd
01/02/2021 14:39:25 0 2
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I think that has already been made by Mr Johnson
01/02/2021 14:56:29 2 0
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I thought that VdL had been encouraged to resign. Excellent idea.
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01/02/2021 12:17:30 167 29
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The British Govt and NHS seems really in the ball with vaccines. Fair play to them for being so organised. Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows
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01/02/2021 12:18:42 71 185
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We could and we do know
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01/02/2021 12:20:45 48 18
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"Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows"

We do know & the answer is an emphatic no

As evidenced by the EUs total cock up of their vaccine deals
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01/02/2021 12:23:45 14 11
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Agree. They've done a great job and it's good to see the progress they've made. The EU do seem to have made something of a mess of their roll-out, and I can't help feeling they are the architects of their own problem.
Apparently it was not a requirement for EU states to be part of their 'joined up' programme so, were we still members, we could still have gone our own way.
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01/02/2021 12:28:14 11 2
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"Could we have done this if we were still in the EU?"

Well, to get the first batch early we enacted EU emergency policy which no other EU country used because it would obviously look bad putting yourself before the union.

We couldn't have done that after the transition period, which is partly why Johnson acted so quickly.

Now, though, it seems the EU shouldn't have waited.
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01/02/2021 12:29:29 2 11
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No
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01/02/2021 12:31:33 10 1
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I would say the logistic expertise is mainly from the British Army...
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01/02/2021 12:36:49 5 27
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Yes of course we could. Our NHS has nothing to do with the EU. We have also had control of our own borders since the 70s and not only that, of all the rules and regulations that have come out from Brussels, we didn’t have to adopt them.
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01/02/2021 12:57:28 8 2
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Not a chance. We's be waiting until Xmas.
01/02/2021 14:03:04 1 2
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100% we could have done this whilst still in the EU. Were EU countries forced to procur collectively? No, they voluntarily chose to do so. Would the MHRA approved the vaccines so quickly? The MHRA has always existed when we were a full member of the EU - it is not a construct of Brexit, so they could have approved the vaccine ahead of the EU (and did so whilst we were still in transition).
01/02/2021 14:23:53 1 0
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The NHS have been rolling out efficient vaccination systems for decades - with little fuss or fanfare. It's what we do.
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01/02/2021 12:15:11 5 3
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Maybe the UK government are going to sent some of its surplus to countries that cannot afford to vaccine they people.
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01/02/2021 12:17:36 5 0
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That is the plan and they have already committed to the WHO, so have the EU, US, etc.
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01/02/2021 12:18:07 5 3
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So much choice - when I go for my jab I am expecting to go eeny meeny miney mo !!
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01/02/2021 12:13:46 18 23
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Vaccine rollout has been great. Well done NHS, thank god it wasn’t outsourced to Tory chums
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01/02/2021 12:18:08 2 10
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Why?
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KO
01/02/2021 12:24:09 4 0
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Because we saw what happened to our world beating track and trace system and app. Picard is right - well done to the NHS.
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01/02/2021 12:28:35 3 0
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Because they would have made a complete hash of it as usual.
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01/02/2021 12:44:41 0 0
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Obvious - track & trace & PPE contracts were & have been pretty poor. If the same approach had happened with vaccines we'd be totally dependant on other countries. This govts' approach has been to throw money at a problem & hope it works - great when you chuck at scientists less so when you pick your donor chums especially those who failed with the Olympics security, prisons, probation ...
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01/02/2021 12:18:20 27 5
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I'm assuming that all of these vaccines can be quickly re-formulated (if that's the right expression) for new variants and mutations - if so, we are in an incredible position to beat this virus. Everyone laughed when I voted remain - they are still laughing now !
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01/02/2021 12:24:37 6 0
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Novavax are working on a SA variant targeted booster as theirs was only 60% effective against that one or 49% if you include HIV positive recipients. I think so are BioNtech and Moderna but Novavax ran some of their trials in SA and so probably got moving on the issue sooner. To be honest if I had a choice I'd pick that one
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01/02/2021 12:18:30 95 8
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Well you can say a lot about the UK government but they have done well so far with the purchases of all these vaccines. I hope that they might be able to help the third world countries with its vaccine rollout. As this will help the world to move on if every country can be vaccine
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01/02/2021 12:25:12 28 42
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Popular misconception. Covid is here to stay, You can still transmit it after vaccine, it will continue to mutate and produce variants, it is the equivalent of a new flu and we will have annual jabs. Do all flu vaccines work?
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01/02/2021 13:22:49 4 10
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"A lot" doesn't even put into perspective the levels of incompetence this government is spewing out. Yes, getting a significant head start on the vaccines is a good thing. Does it make up for all the other mistakes that they have made? Certainly not.
01/02/2021 14:34:18 1 2
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is the eu in the third world countries ?
01/02/2021 15:10:08 0 0
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Sure they will be able to help the 3rd world countries by selling them on via Private Medical companies. Reckon Nadim Zahawi,s company will be involved.
01/02/2021 15:18:00 1 0
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In future we’ll all have a Covid jab as we do a flu jab. The Covid jab though will have to be tweaked each year as the virus develops. No doubt our scientists will have a grip of it.
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01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
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Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
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01/02/2021 12:18:36 4 9
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Because they skipped animal testing, the animals being tested are now human.

No vaccine has ever worked on a corona virus without serious side effects for the tested animals, side effects including death.
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01/02/2021 12:17:30 167 29
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The British Govt and NHS seems really in the ball with vaccines. Fair play to them for being so organised. Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows
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01/02/2021 12:18:42 71 185
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We could and we do know
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01/02/2021 12:44:45 22 6
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um no we couldn't because all the other EU contries are not vaccinating as fast as we are. So, no, we couldn't. And yes we do know.
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01/02/2021 12:18:47 5 23
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"No-one is safe until the whole world is safe."

I'm assuming Zahawi didn't include people in poorer countries. Or else how could he say this while doing the other - selfishly depriving those poor nations their vaccine supply? Are they less human than us?
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01/02/2021 12:20:45 5 2
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A Utopian Corbynite comment.
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01/02/2021 12:23:41 0 1
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No...they've just got less money...and as I get older I've come to realise, you can have anything you want in this world providing you can pay for it.
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01/02/2021 12:23:42 0 0
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What are you talking about?! If you'd read the story you'd understand that all surplus will be shared elsewhere and in particular, with poor countries.
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01/02/2021 12:25:01 1 1
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As a tax payer I wouldn't be happy to pay for other countries to be vaccinated before my family. The gov have already said any spare supply can be used to vac other countries. It's is not the British tax payers responsibility to vaccinate the world, that needs a global effort which the UK are part of.
01/02/2021 14:04:37 0 0
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"assuming"

OK
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01/02/2021 12:18:47 107 9
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This is what the UK is good at. High tech manufacturing.
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01/02/2021 12:38:22 9 46
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We are indeed but what has that got to do with this article?
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01/02/2021 13:05:27 0 1
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True and gloating
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01/02/2021 12:13:23 1 16
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Good news - but don't we have enough on order now ? Is this just a deal to appease the French ?
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01/02/2021 12:18:58 5 0
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No - no one knows how long the protection given by the vaccines will last. If it doesn't last into next winter the whole process will have to start again.
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01/02/2021 12:30:42 0 0
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Same with flu changing every season so the vaccination changes.
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01/02/2021 12:19:12 9 28
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Interesting how all the racist tories are not addressing the fact that it is yet another vaccine produced by Europeans....
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01/02/2021 12:22:09 12 3
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Last time I looked we were still part of the continent of Europe therefore we are Europeans.
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01/02/2021 12:22:12 4 1
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A vaccine is a vaccine no matter who makes it
I do wonder how Jeremy racist commie Corbyn and his friends would have dealt with C19 if they were in power too? Removed
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01/02/2021 12:24:31 3 2
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Funded by the UK goverment, developed in the UK......what part did the EU play in this
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01/02/2021 12:24:49 2 4
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Produced by France....it will smell of garlic and snails....I'll have the Astazeneca jab please.
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01/02/2021 12:25:52 1 2
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Grow up.
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01/02/2021 12:28:38 0 1
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But by a company owned by Britons, Irish, Germans, French......etc.
Some of them may even be “ Tories”. Interesting.
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01/02/2021 13:07:35 0 0
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How dare we Europeans make vaccines to help the World.
We should be thoroughly ashamed of ourselves!!!!
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01/02/2021 12:19:13 456 46
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The media (incl BBC) continue to try to propagate a story that the EU and UK have argued
I have seen a row between the EU and AZ over vaccine supply but not a row between the EU and the UK
The UK and ROI only got involved when the EU threatened to invoke Article 16 (completely ignoring the ROI's sovereignty in the process BTW)
Some would clearly like to be able simply to accuse the UK of something
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01/02/2021 12:22:32 188 23
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Well said !
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01/02/2021 12:24:29 39 12
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So you didn't read that the UK were accused of wanting a 'vaccine war'. I guess that didn't get reported in the Guardian?

The EU lost their sh*t big time, stropping like kids not getting their own way. Just read the French press and then reaffirm your statement.
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01/02/2021 12:37:27 10 15
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Not true if you read the articles carefully. It was some European politicians that widened it to us as a nation not the EU per se.
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01/02/2021 12:40:26 27 5
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Pop over to the Daily Mail - they are convinced war is about to break out between the EU and the UK.

Looks like AZ and the EU have buried the hatchet.

Move along. Nothing to see here.
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01/02/2021 12:55:14 18 12
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Agree 100%. I'm a diehard remoaner and sick of this from a different angle:

The dispute is between the EU and a private company. The article 16 nonsense was a mistake and I'm glad they're trying to rectify it
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01/02/2021 13:09:44 35 0
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EU press and politicians appeared to be the only ones trying the draw the UK in to this, to which they remained very disciplined and tightt lipped. Strange times when the UK government display themselves as a beacon of statesmanship.
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01/02/2021 13:13:37 39 1
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Try listening to the EU president (who references UK repeatedly) or the press coverage/people of Europe (claiming the add'l 9million doses as a 'victory' and proof that the EU can outpower the UK,

This may have been nothing to do with the UK but the UK was the one facing blockades of medical supplies, and Europe very much see it as a battle with us.
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01/02/2021 13:16:59 27 5
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Agree, but let's face it the EU was and is simply trying to find a argument with UK and they have still brought in a way to refuse to supply vaccines specifically to the UK if it suits them!
I don't think the media are trying to "accuse the UK of something".
I think some, with their agendas, were trying to stir up divisions between the UK and EU.
I'm not usually praising the government, but on this issue they handled it well. Their reaction was to dampen down the rhetoric. Refreshing grown up politics.
As for the EU. They blundered big time and have now admitted so. Time to move on.
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01/02/2021 13:28:13 10 2
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Take a look at Irish border, EU lost it
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01/02/2021 13:36:27 18 4
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After the awful reaction from the EU, to compensate for their overly complex procurement processes , im ok with brexit, even though i voted remain.
01/02/2021 13:52:34 3 2
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You have not seen a row between the EU and UK. You must be being willfully blind.
The EU threatened supplies of Pfizer vaccine specifically to the UK. And the EU demanded the UK give the EU the UK's AstraZeneca vaccines. Under the justification that the EU was not receiving its fair share of vaccines because the UK was receiving more than its fair share.
01/02/2021 14:07:52 1 3
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Ok, how about trust?. Didn't BJ & the current nationalist Govt we have mention at some point they'd break international law?.
01/02/2021 14:08:02 3 1
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I believe the EU, especially the French and Germans were saying that the UK was being given priority and that first come first served does apply where the EU is concerned. It has also suggested that AZ is diverting vaccine from its EU plant to allow the UK priority and that Pfizer may be denied permission to export to the UK. Definitely trying to implicate the UK as a reason for its own failures
01/02/2021 14:24:01 3 8
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The UK is guilty of ignoring WHO and gobbling up the world supply of vaccine. The devil is in the detail - AZ contract with UK, the fact that Govt worked hard to hide the effectiveness of the Oxford-AZ vaccine. This is simply about money and greed. EU tries hard to be fair and the English Parliament hates that, hence Brexit. The AZ contract to EU stipulated supply from their UK factories.
01/02/2021 14:24:25 4 1
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I have one foot in the UK and the other in the EU.
1. The Oxford lab and AZ did an amazing job - full marks on that.
2. The UK ordered 3 months in advance of the EU. Well done, but risky to give first injections without being sure of having supplies for the second vaccine.
3. The EU no longer trusts the UK as a country to do business with and will look for other suppliers in the future.
01/02/2021 14:24:26 0 5
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The British should leave the North of Ireland and let the island be one again.
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01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
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Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
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01/02/2021 12:19:24 2 2
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Maybe they made a donation to the Tory party?
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01/02/2021 12:16:51 128 11
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Fantastic Job to all involved. The UK leading the fight against this horrible virus.
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01/02/2021 12:19:35 40 134
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We're certainly contributing but I don't knw by what measure you think we're leading?
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01/02/2021 12:25:07 19 4
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By numbers vaccinated? What else could it be?
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01/02/2021 12:43:37 31 0
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Also genome sequencing, we're miles ahead, testing treatments, miles ahead. you forget the UK is the world research hub for infectious diseases, don't believe me, try the New York Times, it is always quoting UK experts and lamenting their inadequacies
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01/02/2021 12:52:23 2 21
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The Uk is currently devoured by polulism so such arguments are largely pointless. To understand why, i find it helpful to think of populism as a football match where the loosing team celebrates a 3:1 loss because they scored the last goal.
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01/02/2021 12:55:18 23 0
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Very effective, easily stored, very cheap, cost only vaccine. That and an excellent vaccination process - I call that leading.
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01/02/2021 13:18:56 4 1
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Foolish statement!
So we're allowed a HYS on this particular vaccine supply news, but when it was what some might say was the hugely significant development of the EU threatening to ban exports of vaccines to the UK via Northern Ireland, after making such a fuss about the NI border themselves in the Brexit negotiations, we were NOT allowed a voice...

One might almost think the BBC has it's own political agenda...
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01/02/2021 12:23:32 18 4
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HYS means 'have your say' if anyone is wondering.
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01/02/2021 12:27:45 23 5
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My top rated comment on the HYS there was on this (which was not a pro EU comment) strangely got removed by the BBC.

Of course it is HYS soviet style, ie you CAN have your say but if it is popular and against their views, it does last long.
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01/02/2021 12:30:12 21 9
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I also notice that Biden and Pelosi didn't decide to take to Instagram to berate the EU for their own dastardly plan for the NI border, seemingly, that accolade is reserved purely for only when the UK mention the border. Hypocrites.
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01/02/2021 12:31:28 8 1
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They have also completely ignored the fact that the EU have still given individual countries the power to block exports of the vaccine - ie Belgium...(Pfizer- BionTech)...
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01/02/2021 12:32:08 12 10
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It was on for 2 days. Or do you know that and just want to create disinfomation to further your political agenda.
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01/02/2021 12:38:33 4 6
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EU has argument with one of the vaccine manufacturers.

Vaccine manufacturer concedes, promises loads more.

UK doing sterling work on roll out.

EU a bit behind.

Move along now - really not much more to see.
In case nobody has noticed HYS ceases at weekends, moderators must only work Monday to Friday, hence no HYS on any breaking news between 6pm Friday to 8am Monday. Removed
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01/02/2021 12:52:29 3 2
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The BBC editorial is left wing and NOT balanced
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01/02/2021 12:53:56 4 4
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The amount of unchallenged anti-EU nonsense on HYS alone is more than evidence enough against any censorship claim.

Honestly, the brass neck on Brexiteers complaining about BBC bias against you and censorship and having your voice silenced whilst you continue to post, tweet, message unobstructed, and fill tv and radio airtime and have the majority of representation in parliament. It's pathetic
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01/02/2021 13:02:45 1 1
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I trust that when we pass on surplus vaccines to the EU, it will be delivered by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight...just for old times' sake.
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01/02/2021 13:05:15 1 0
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There was one on Friday, you must have missed it...
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01/02/2021 12:15:59 5 6
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"The government says it will give flexibility should people need revaccinating next winter or beyond."

That's assuming the virus hasn't evolved to dodge the current formulation
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01/02/2021 12:19:46 5 0
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The alternative is to assume it will evolve and not bother with vaccinations - hardly a sensible approach
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01/02/2021 12:21:39 0 0
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Nope, you just reformulate and throw away the now useless vaccines.
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01/02/2021 12:19:46 208 15
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Good to see, and genuinely, well done to the government and in particular Kate Bingham on this.

I'd like to see the UK offer to help Ireland in particular as soon as we reasonably can in the event we have a surplus, which is looking pretty likely - more people protected in the Republic would presumably make life a lot easier for those living in NI.
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01/02/2021 12:37:12 59 14
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I'm sure the Irish would do for us, wouldn't they?
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01/02/2021 12:38:41 27 3
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Me too (being Irish selfishly)

But sadly as members of the EU that wouldn't be allowed because of the EUs intransigence
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01/02/2021 12:47:58 29 1
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Making sure that everyone within the Common Travel Area (CTA) i.e. UK, ROI, Isle of Man, Channel Islands should be a priority for vaccination because of the freedom of travel within the CTA.
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01/02/2021 13:25:44 8 5
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The giant tax haven, ROI? A main contributor to worldwide tax avoidance and therefore the death of our high street, ROI? Not a chance, back of the back of the queue for them
01/02/2021 14:20:49 6 0
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I think the Republic of Ireland has been a pretty sensible influence recently. We should absolutely help out if we can
01/02/2021 14:31:38 1 2
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You know what would make life easier in NI
The End of partition, (United Ireland)
01/02/2021 15:17:46 1 0
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Helping Ireland would make much sense as Ireland is now a real 'misfit' in the EU. CTA/non-Schengen, common time zone, drive on the left and so on, we have far more in common with Ireland than Ireland now has with any of the EU. With some sensible cooperation we could have a good future together. but working together to get us both rid of the PRC's nasty export should be in both our interests.
01/02/2021 19:02:20 0 0
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The government HAS said it expects to be able to help other European countries once the vaccine has been rolled out sufficiently here. I believe Ireland falls into that category, but if Brussels insists on controlling the vaccine delivered from the UK in the future, don't expect it to go smoothly.
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01/02/2021 12:16:31 213 267
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Well we used to have a big say in the running of it.
50
01/02/2021 12:19:57 77 40
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We really didn't.
77
01/02/2021 12:22:44 49 65
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We really did.
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01/02/2021 12:30:23 44 36
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Of course we did - we had veto power, numerous concessions, a seat at the top table.

The narrative that we were somehow being bullied or taken advantage of is nonsense.
01/02/2021 14:06:13 2 3
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Another muppet complaining about an organisation they never understood in the first place...

And you wonder why Brits globally are often frowned upon... Shame.
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01/02/2021 12:15:05 21 22
bbc
"UK orders extra 40m doses of Valneva vaccine, despite Brexit!"

Looking forward to seeing the Remoaner's comments supporting the EU's recent faux pas
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01/02/2021 12:20:04 9 0
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It was worse than a faux pas, I reckon. But what puzzles me is how Sweden, an EU member, appeared to not be involved or engaged in the fuss, when AstraZeneca is half Swedish.
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01/02/2021 12:43:05 1 0
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It's also a private business
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01/02/2021 12:43:32 1 0
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It might not be unconnected to the number so far vaccinated in Sweden being barely 200,000, so programme hampered by EU procurement, perhaps, and therefore not an easy Brussels target?
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01/02/2021 12:13:52 4 20
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Doses arriving later in the year are unlikely to be of use here. With current predictions that everyone will have been vaccinated by September.
Can't be useful against resilient variants, as they don't know what those will look like yet. Not appealing to late adopters as it will have have the same body of proof as the pfizer and Oxford vaccines already given to millions.
Useful for other countries
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01/02/2021 12:20:07 8 0
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You are too negative. A portfolio of vaccines will be increasingly useful as time goes on, and this one is being manfactured in the UK, which helps from the supply point of view.
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01/02/2021 13:06:20 0 0
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Fair point: I wonder if different vaccines work better for different people, analogously to different susceptibilities between different people.
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01/02/2021 12:20:10 6 1
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A sensible precaution as we don't know how long lasting the existing vaccines will be.

If next winter the effectiveness of the AZ ans Pfizer vaccines decline will will have the capacity to re-vaccinate.

If not needed - give it to others who do!
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01/02/2021 12:20:15 6 1
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Keep the pressure up on covid......exterminate by planning
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01/02/2021 12:20:17 325 57
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Not bad for a country that was supposed to be at the back of the queue after Brexit :-)
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01/02/2021 12:33:10 281 9
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Yep. But all EU members had the flexibility to make their own contracts but chose EU protectionism and price bargaining. France is now highly embarrassed due to the failures of the Pasteur Institute and Sanofi. No wonder Macron is making unscientific comments about the Astra vaccine.
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01/02/2021 13:18:05 8 39
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You obviously don't have goods stuck in Europe due to brexit rules like I do holding up work.

Notice how your fruit is going off quicker than unusual. The reason is it can't get through quick enough. Thanks Boris.
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01/02/2021 13:18:44 10 20
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"Back of the queue" was in terms of trade on the condition that there was a no deal Brexit, where there wasn't, in which the EU got everything they wanted.
Why do you still not understand Brexit after all this time?
01/02/2021 14:12:23 3 9
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That was for trade deals, specifically an American one. It's why Boris threw our ambassador under the bus for telling the world that Trump was a childish infant. He was so desperate for a trade deal.
01/02/2021 14:29:14 3 10
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The vaccine deal with AZ was done when UK was a full member of EU, and "back of the queue" if UK leaves EU without a deal. UK now has a deal and paying for it.
01/02/2021 14:45:42 3 2
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I can't help feel of old Barack and Just Calle Dave had told us we'd be at the front of the queue we'd have voted remain.
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01/02/2021 12:13:23 1 16
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Good news - but don't we have enough on order now ? Is this just a deal to appease the French ?
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01/02/2021 12:20:18 1 0
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We will all probably need to be vaccinated on an annual basis. That’s why this goes into 2022
23
01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
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Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
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01/02/2021 12:20:19 1 1
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They have explained, permission was given to shortcut the tail end quality checks and also extrapolate findings. The risk was minimal and as things progress with close to 10m vaccinated, almost nil. You are not the French president in disguise?
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01/02/2021 12:20:36 27 11
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Presumably to be used to bail out the incompetent EU?

Have they finished throwing their toys out yet?

Couldn't make it up.
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01/02/2021 13:39:16 0 7
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You Brexiteer muppets have spent the last 45 years "throwing your toys out your pram". You got what you wanted and you are still complaining....

Couldn't make it up.
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01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
bbc
Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
59
01/02/2021 12:20:38 1 1
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There always the one to spoil the party & today its you.
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01/02/2021 12:18:47 5 23
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"No-one is safe until the whole world is safe."

I'm assuming Zahawi didn't include people in poorer countries. Or else how could he say this while doing the other - selfishly depriving those poor nations their vaccine supply? Are they less human than us?
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01/02/2021 12:20:45 5 2
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A Utopian Corbynite comment.
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01/02/2021 12:17:30 167 29
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The British Govt and NHS seems really in the ball with vaccines. Fair play to them for being so organised. Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows
61
01/02/2021 12:20:45 48 18
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"Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows"

We do know & the answer is an emphatic no

As evidenced by the EUs total cock up of their vaccine deals
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01/02/2021 12:13:52 4 20
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Doses arriving later in the year are unlikely to be of use here. With current predictions that everyone will have been vaccinated by September.
Can't be useful against resilient variants, as they don't know what those will look like yet. Not appealing to late adopters as it will have have the same body of proof as the pfizer and Oxford vaccines already given to millions.
Useful for other countries
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01/02/2021 12:20:47 1 0
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but how long will protection last for? No one knows and much better to be as prepared as you can be surely?
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01/02/2021 12:20:48 15 10
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If we want to get back to any sense of normality...We're going to have to close the borders for all but essential goods. Sorry if this upsets people but we can't keep going on like this.
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:20:54 40 46
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Who pays for the NHS ?

Remember if you work in the public sector...you're a tax recycler....not a tax payer.
457
01/02/2021 12:58:34 4 8
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I pay more in tax than I get back in bonuses, so no: I'm not a 'tax recycler'.
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01/02/2021 13:27:48 4 3
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Well go and heal yourself next time if you get, say a broken leg.

Tax is paid by everyone not just the private sector. The country would grind to a halt if the Public Sector wasn’t there. Thats why the Tories want to emasculate the workforce. They don’t want you to “ TAKE BACK CONTROL “ of the working environment.
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01/02/2021 13:41:00 3 2
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We are all "tax recyclers" be it public or private sector employment. Our wages come from someone else be it the government, customers or investors. A pretty pathetic post to be honest. As for the Covid vaccaines and other measures, sooner or later every tax payer will have to pay more to replenish UK Ltd coffers!
01/02/2021 14:33:35 3 2
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Agreed! Public sector workers are just a drain on taxpayers. They should all have second jobs to earn a living while working for the tax-payer voluntarily! That way, they won't have any spare time having holidays or time off, just the basics, so they're cheap to keep. We could even house them in huge dormitories so their houses can go to the private sector for profit! Genius idea!!!
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01/02/2021 12:21:00 155 65
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Can this government get any better....

Brilliant Boris

??
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01/02/2021 12:24:45 74 144
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Well it couldn't get worse surely.
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01/02/2021 12:32:23 11 8
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well this is its only plus in the handling of covid so unless you set the bar really, really, really low yes it can.
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CH
01/02/2021 12:34:54 10 4
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Yes lots.
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01/02/2021 13:25:00 9 5
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A single achievement in a sea of failures...

Your name does not suit you.
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01/02/2021 13:39:43 2 0
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I think there is some scope.
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01/02/2021 13:44:47 7 3
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What, apart from the 100,000 dead people?
01/02/2021 13:53:17 3 0
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A comment made with a very narrow view. Try taking a wider perspective.
01/02/2021 14:31:51 2 4
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Things government doing not so well:
1) Death of its citizens from Covid - world beating
2) Rampant corruption and cronyism in PPE and other contract awards
3) Not fixing the cladding problem on flats
4) Enabling and looking the other way on tax evasion
5) Red tape for imports/exports
6) Feeding hungry children (without encouragement)
7) Running the court system efficiently & effective
F for fail
01/02/2021 14:32:30 2 2
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Brilliant in comparison to what?

I assume you mean brilliant in comparison to 75 deaths in Thailand, a country of similar population, with enormous land borders and apparently* a far superior Covid response....

How many UK deaths today?

You are redefining “brilliant” I think.

I enjoyed the laugh though.
01/02/2021 14:49:10 0 2
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Beggars belief people still praising Boris and this government.. Worst Covid response in the world, and everything else has been pretty much a shambles! Only the Brexit disaster being eased by the pandemic has worked in their favour. Trump & Boris belong together..
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:21:34 16 9
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Amen
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01/02/2021 12:21:37 360 60
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By the way.

The BBC needs to learn some new terminology, maybe try the Financial Times for a lead?

The EU decision was not a 'back track' or a 'reversal', it was a U Turn.

If U turn is good enough for the UK Government then it's good enough for the EU.

But just to clarify in BBC Language:

Decision changed:

UK = U Turn
EU = Reversal or backtrack
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01/02/2021 12:29:58 258 40
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and the BBC wonders why it gets accused of bias, when it is clearly not consistent with its editorial and journalistic handling.
That is the reason why.
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01/02/2021 12:31:54 34 0
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Only the UK press would consider a government reconsidering the evidence, admitting they were wrong and changing their mind (ie a U turn) a bad thing
563
01/02/2021 13:07:33 36 1
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It was spun as a "rethink" and "adjustment of an action" on BBC Radio on Saturday. Laughable..
602
01/02/2021 13:10:46 35 2
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And when the SNP do a U turn it is described as an update.
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01/02/2021 13:16:13 5 12
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What is the difference, and does it matter? Are you suggesting U turn is a better, or worse, thing to do?
871
01/02/2021 13:34:51 23 4
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The Badly Biased Corporation. That 'forgot' to mention the EU raid on AZ's offices last Thursday even when it was in all the papers.
928
01/02/2021 13:42:32 1 5
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U Turn and reversal mean the same thing.
01/02/2021 13:48:53 4 2
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EU turn if you want to, the lady is not for turning!
01/02/2021 13:53:59 6 0
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Flu (seasonal influenza) has NOT been eradicated and probably never will be. Stop spreading false, fake news. There's a lot less of it about because of face masks and social distancing, but it will return as normal if we ever get to live without these Covid precautions. And it still kills a small proportion of those who catch it.
"UK = U Turn
EU = Reversal or backtrack"

Just checked with Oxford English Dictionary for synonyms of U Turn (political). They include "reversal" and "backtrack". So they mean the same thing.

But if you hate the BBC. Any excuse for a rant at your news provider of CHOICE...
01/02/2021 14:13:34 0 2
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Semantics my dear, just semantics.
01/02/2021 16:30:01 0 1
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I hope all those Tory MPs who used to bay at the Labour Party for buying up SARS and bird flu vaccine are remembering their behaviour and cringing.
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01/02/2021 12:19:46 5 0
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The alternative is to assume it will evolve and not bother with vaccinations - hardly a sensible approach
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01/02/2021 12:21:39 0 0
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Nope, you just reformulate and throw away the now useless vaccines.
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01/02/2021 12:21:44 8 4
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All well and good.
Unless the world gets vaccinated. There will be little change to travel restrictions.
Don't let exceptionalism and selfishness get in the way practical measures and humanity.
681
01/02/2021 13:18:27 0 0
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Dont worry we rejected exceptionalism and selfishness and left the EU.
17
01/02/2021 12:15:05 21 22
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"UK orders extra 40m doses of Valneva vaccine, despite Brexit!"

Looking forward to seeing the Remoaner's comments supporting the EU's recent faux pas
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01/02/2021 12:21:55 2 1
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Don't make this a Brexit issue. We had more than an enough on that subject.
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01/02/2021 12:22:02 48 6
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I have sympathy for the Eu position. If your nation was starving you would not want to see food being exported. But delegating the decision to the members is a blatant attempt to distance the commission from any international reaction. If France stops shipment, France gets the flak. If Germany decides not to, the other countries in the bloc shout at Germany. Sneaky and unpleasant politics.
01/02/2021 14:45:40 0 0
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so why did they ask fisherman to throw dead fish back when caught
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01/02/2021 12:19:12 9 28
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Interesting how all the racist tories are not addressing the fact that it is yet another vaccine produced by Europeans....
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01/02/2021 12:22:09 12 3
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Last time I looked we were still part of the continent of Europe therefore we are Europeans.
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01/02/2021 12:28:31 2 0
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I'm Brian and so's my Wife.
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01/02/2021 12:32:30 1 0
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Well legally you are not. Or maybe you are when it is in your interest. Who knows?
It appears the threat of vaccine nationalism and the associated jingoism has died down. Good.
In that spirit, as a social care worker who received the Pfizer vaccine on Saturday, I would like to thank some people.
The Germans/Americans/Turks for creating the vaccine.
The Belgians for manufacturing it.
The UK government for purchasing it.
The Scottish government/NHS for delivery and administration
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01/02/2021 12:22:10 5 13
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Who do you think was responsible for the vaccine nationalism and what you call 'associated jingoism'? Surely not the British government?
01/02/2021 13:53:52 0 0
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The UK Government wasn't shy at boasting about it's vaccination programme. Surely you thought that would incite and anger other nations which would promote such "Vaccine nationalism"... Right?

Of course Brexiteers have no regard for the consequences of their actions.
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01/02/2021 12:19:12 9 28
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Interesting how all the racist tories are not addressing the fact that it is yet another vaccine produced by Europeans....
74
01/02/2021 12:22:12 4 1
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A vaccine is a vaccine no matter who makes it
191
01/02/2021 12:31:57 1 0
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Yes when it suits you it is not relevant indeed
31
01/02/2021 12:17:23 174 32
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Reportedly Ursula Van Leyden is to make a record, a reissue of the Freddie Mercury classic

"I want it all and I want it now"
75
01/02/2021 12:22:17 116 18
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We had one earlier too.

'I want to break free'
366
01/02/2021 12:51:38 10 1
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Thank goodness we did.
01/02/2021 13:48:07 5 0
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Sturgeon has already bought the rights to both of those songs.
44
01/02/2021 12:19:13 456 46
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The media (incl BBC) continue to try to propagate a story that the EU and UK have argued
I have seen a row between the EU and AZ over vaccine supply but not a row between the EU and the UK
The UK and ROI only got involved when the EU threatened to invoke Article 16 (completely ignoring the ROI's sovereignty in the process BTW)
Some would clearly like to be able simply to accuse the UK of something
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01/02/2021 12:22:32 188 23
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Well said !
50
01/02/2021 12:19:57 77 40
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We really didn't.
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01/02/2021 12:22:44 49 65
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We really did.
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01/02/2021 12:29:05 60 26
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From its inception the EU was a franco/german cartel
828
01/02/2021 13:31:15 4 1
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Not when it mattered. Hence why they told Cameron to do one over free movement? And the way they chose to ignore Teresa May?
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01/02/2021 12:19:12 9 28
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Interesting how all the racist tories are not addressing the fact that it is yet another vaccine produced by Europeans....
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I do wonder how Jeremy racist commie Corbyn and his friends would have dealt with C19 if they were in power too? Removed
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01/02/2021 12:24:50 2 2
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Extremely badly
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01/02/2021 12:22:53 0 5
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UK getting to 400 million doses of vaccine ordered perhaps highlights the lack of a viable vaccination strategy for the UK. Voluntarily vaccinating the entire UK population on the face of it would seem a plan doomed to costly failure if the vaccines in hand and being administered are insufficient to eradicate the now many mutant forms of COVID-19.
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01/02/2021 12:26:57 3 0
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This is with us for the long haul. Eradication. Your having a laugh. When September comes again we will be vaccinating again. Just as flu comes around every year so will this more highly dangerous cold. New vaccines every year.
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01/02/2021 12:17:17 18 7
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Once again, Boris leads Europe with regard to vaccine roll-out. Mainly due to the creation of the 'Vaccine Taskforce UK', lead brilliantly by Kate Bingham - who I recall was roundly criticized by the Boris haters because she is married to a Conservative MP.

Left whingers wrong yet again. Go Boris!
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CH
01/02/2021 12:34:02 5 7
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If you try really hard you could probably get your nose a bit further up Bozo's posterior...

Kudos to the govt for getting the vaccination programme right, EU have handled this terribly!
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01/02/2021 12:23:09 17 0
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This article is worth reading

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/213313/imperial-vaccine-tech-target-covid-mutations/

science in the uk is forward looking and looking ahead.
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01/02/2021 12:15:28 5 31
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OOOH GREAT!!! Can we get the f*c*ing schools open now then please?!!
82
01/02/2021 12:17:59 4 0
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Schools are open.
561
01/02/2021 13:07:07 0 0
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But the kids aren't in them!
83
01/02/2021 12:18:47 1 9
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Vaccine shmaxeen... you can keep 'em.
23
01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
bbc
Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
84
01/02/2021 12:18:48 2 0
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Because they wouldn't supply us otherwise can't blame them really
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01/02/2021 12:18:52 40 5
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Brilliant news. Get the cheque book out pronto and no messing about.

That's how you do it Ursula :)
888
01/02/2021 13:37:08 8 23
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It doesn't undo the previous incompetent actions of the UK Government...
1 achievement is not superior to 100s of failures.
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:20:05 47 12
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Vaccine task force UK - Chaired and run by Kate Bingham, a successful private businesswoman.
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01/02/2021 12:27:12 19 28
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It certainly isn’t Johnson
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01/02/2021 12:42:25 8 2
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Kate Bingham has done a very good job but it is still the public sector rolling out the vaccines. Credit where credit is due.
01/02/2021 14:40:54 3 2
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and Dildo Harding another so called successful businesswoman who failed because it was wholly private sector. Bingham's success is down to the NHS organization the same NHS that the tories are selling off to their chums in the private sector
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01/02/2021 12:13:44 11 25
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Government still has not explained why the vaccine manufacturers have been given total immunity against any future claims in case of problems caused by their vaccine. Why?
87
01/02/2021 12:20:32 1 0
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Because Phase 3 trials will only be completed by mid 2023
88
01/02/2021 12:20:32 7 5
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Seems a bit selfish to have 4 times amount of vaccine for UK when low income countries can't get hold of much. Surely this is a global problem and unless the virus is eradicated globally life will not return to normal.
207
01/02/2021 12:33:29 1 0
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How do you think we're going to pay for this pandemic ?
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01/02/2021 12:54:15 1 0
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When we have completed our programme the excess will be given to those countries, Unlike some who will unlikely let them go without some kind of reward.
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01/02/2021 12:23:23 3 8
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Ordering shed loads of vaccines is one thing, but what's the plan to get us back to some semblance of normality?

The over 60's account for 92% of deaths and over 65's for 67% of hospital admissions. Once they're vaccinated it removes most of the issue, so what do the numbers show on acceptable higher infection rates over time once this is done? It must have been modelled to show the way out
.
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01/02/2021 12:15:57 240 61
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Well done our goverment, a little praise from the anti goverment, anti British BBC might help as well (a little bit anyway) to repair the rift between the BBC and the great British people.
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01/02/2021 12:23:27 211 48
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It must pain the BBC to have to report positive Gov achievements.
01/02/2021 14:05:28 4 9
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The BBC is supposed to be impartial. It is not meant to be a cheerleader for the government.

Many of the comments here show how relieved Tory voters are that the government hasn't cacked the vaccine rollout up. The credit for that belongs to Kate Bingham and the NHS.
01/02/2021 14:25:53 2 6
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I doubt it. This is the only time they have had to report positively on the Gov acheivements. Still hats off, its impressive!

Less impressive is the shocking management of this pandemic which means we really need the vaccine quickly because we have a world beating Covid death rate per million.
01/02/2021 14:42:14 2 6
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Whereas there are still plenty who ignore the lies and corruption of this Tory Government.
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01/02/2021 12:23:31 8 4
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We are not in the EU there is no Queue .......
So we're allowed a HYS on this particular vaccine supply news, but when it was what some might say was the hugely significant development of the EU threatening to ban exports of vaccines to the UK via Northern Ireland, after making such a fuss about the NI border themselves in the Brexit negotiations, we were NOT allowed a voice...

One might almost think the BBC has it's own political agenda...
Removed
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01/02/2021 12:23:32 18 4
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HYS means 'have your say' if anyone is wondering.
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01/02/2021 12:26:05 3 2
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thanks, I ran out of characters to explain that ;-)
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01/02/2021 12:34:09 1 2
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You don't say.
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01/02/2021 12:23:32 19 7
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The UK is the VACCINATION NATION. The vaccination programme is ahead of the curve with nearly 9 million first doses give and its ramping up all the time. This latest order is a further commitment by the Government to ensure everyone is vaccinated in a timely manner. I am sure the EU are looking at us and asking themselves what they can learn about our outstanding procurement management roll out.
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01/02/2021 12:29:23 14 2
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Doubt it, they'll be thinking how can we blame the British for our own pathetic response to Covid.
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01/02/2021 13:13:02 0 3
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Given our disastrous response to the pandemic it's not really anything to shout about. I can't believe people are trying to paint this as some sort of win.
01/02/2021 13:50:27 0 3
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A single achievement does not outdo the hundreds of failures and shows of incompetence the UK government has shown... Stop deluding yourself.
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01/02/2021 12:16:20 228 131
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Indeed. And worth noting it is the NHS, not the private sector or the private sector with a NHS badge, which is delivering that success. The UKs only Covid success, to be blunt about it.
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01/02/2021 12:21:30 19 10
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You certainly live up to your name.
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01/02/2021 12:43:10 4 0
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I’m just self-aware :-)
01/02/2021 14:41:51 0 2
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and yours is unprintable
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01/02/2021 12:12:08 599 49
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Hats off to the Government on this one, the vaccine programme is truly 'world beating' currently. Good to see them being pre-active looking at next winter and further re-vaccination too.
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01/02/2021 12:22:09 88 51
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There will be an annual jab like the flu jab. The vaccines we are using at present are only in development and phase 3 trials will be completed by mid 2023
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01/02/2021 13:22:20 1 0
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And?
01/02/2021 13:59:50 2 1
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It's more of a 'hats off' to the NHS who are rolling the programme out and I also hear 'hats off' to the Army, Sir Patrick Vallance and those heading up the operations in the differing parts of the UK.
Were the private sector showed failure over track and trace the public's NHS has shown that they could both cope with their local T&T and the vaccine roll out.
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01/02/2021 12:14:22 105 5
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Sensible move. Protection for the future and a start in developing our own vaccine production facility for long term security.
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01/02/2021 12:23:17 45 0
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Quite right - this is long term, it is here to stay with us now so not all about vaccines but also getting going again
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01/02/2021 12:15:05 21 22
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"UK orders extra 40m doses of Valneva vaccine, despite Brexit!"

Looking forward to seeing the Remoaner's comments supporting the EU's recent faux pas
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01/02/2021 12:23:39 1 3
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Since the remain lobby is comprised of rational, intelligent people, you won't see any. The EU is a trading bloc, not a collective of infallible saints, and has made a complete balls of the whole vaccine issue. Just for fun, though, I'll suggest that it wouldn't have happened anyway if we still had EU membership. : )

Would it?!
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01/02/2021 12:18:47 5 23
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"No-one is safe until the whole world is safe."

I'm assuming Zahawi didn't include people in poorer countries. Or else how could he say this while doing the other - selfishly depriving those poor nations their vaccine supply? Are they less human than us?
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01/02/2021 12:23:41 0 1
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No...they've just got less money...and as I get older I've come to realise, you can have anything you want in this world providing you can pay for it.
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01/02/2021 12:18:47 5 23
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"No-one is safe until the whole world is safe."

I'm assuming Zahawi didn't include people in poorer countries. Or else how could he say this while doing the other - selfishly depriving those poor nations their vaccine supply? Are they less human than us?
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01/02/2021 12:23:42 0 0
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What are you talking about?! If you'd read the story you'd understand that all surplus will be shared elsewhere and in particular, with poor countries.
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01/02/2021 12:17:30 167 29
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The British Govt and NHS seems really in the ball with vaccines. Fair play to them for being so organised. Could we have done this if we were still in the EU? Who knows
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01/02/2021 12:23:45 14 11
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Agree. They've done a great job and it's good to see the progress they've made. The EU do seem to have made something of a mess of their roll-out, and I can't help feeling they are the architects of their own problem.
Apparently it was not a requirement for EU states to be part of their 'joined up' programme so, were we still members, we could still have gone our own way.
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01/02/2021 12:56:08 5 2
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"so, were we still members, we could still have gone our own way." In theory yes, but in practice if we were still members we would have joined the programme no way a single member could have could not joined if all the others had.