Soucek red card 'embarrassing' - Moyes
06/02/2021
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West Ham boss David Moyes calls referee Mike Dean's decision to send off Tomas Soucek "embarrassing" as the Hammers draw with Fulham.
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MIKE DEAN AGAIN....!!!
Yes! Again - no coincidence there then. Mike Dean is a liability!!
At least he's consistent at making every game about him
You got his name wrong, its mike look at me dean
The referee Mike Dean is a complete disgrace and not competent to referee kids playing in the park let alone a professional game.
Absolutely ridiculous decision. What on earth did he see? Referees ignore blatant diving in most games and histrionic reactions to 'fouls'. This must be rescinded.
Can a referee be done for bringing the game into disrepute?
I hope so!
I hope so!
What also makes no sense is if Dean has deemed that Mitrovic has been elbowed, added by the fact he goes to ground holding his head he has a duty to ensure he is taken off pitch for concussion check does he not! Incompetence goes further than just the red card!
Totally agree Dean should not be allowed to ref anymore he is an untter disgrace.
Its not just Dean its the VAR corrupt officials.
They gave that as a red, yet decided Lacazette being pulled to the ground by Martinez was not a clear and obvious error when the ref gave the freekick against him.
Refs and VAR are corrupt against certain sides. All clubs should put in requests against refs being in charge of their games. Only United and Liverpool are pro-refs and VAR
They gave that as a red, yet decided Lacazette being pulled to the ground by Martinez was not a clear and obvious error when the ref gave the freekick against him.
Refs and VAR are corrupt against certain sides. All clubs should put in requests against refs being in charge of their games. Only United and Liverpool are pro-refs and VAR
Dean didn't want Soucek playing against his beloved Man U on Tuesday.
I couldn't agree more that was not a sending off at all!
And worst of all is that he's still one of the best (for want of a better word) refs in England. FIFA deciding not to have a team of English officials at the 2018 World Cup should have been a wake up call to the FA about the level of incompetence of our officials but instead they've just doubled down in defending their ineptitude.
He was bang on. Soucek made a clear motion towards the head with his elbow. Everyone on here easily influenced by the rantings of buffoons like Redknapp apparently.
The same can be said of Mason these are the two who officiated in the Southampton debacle.
Would also be hopeless refereeing a game of table football.
Dean taking the opportunity to send off Soucek before the FA cup tie against his paymasters!!
Officials should be held accountable for things like this. How can they look at that over and over again and decide there’s something malicious there from Soucek? Mike Dean won’t hang his head and shame because he’s buzzing he got to give another red card tonight
The fact that some people downvote yr comment shows to me how many football idiots there are. Fantastic comment
The person that should be red carded is Mike Dean. Unfortunately the FA will have his back.
Mike Dean is nothing more than a narcissistic bonehead. He is constantly and consistently making a mockery of nearly every game he "officiates" and has done for years.
Embarrassing. Removed
Embarrassing. Removed
Doesn’t have to be malicious to be dangerous. Why does no one seem to understand this
Watching it in slow motion 20 times doesn’t help ??
They can be dropped
I've just watched it for the first time this morning and its a joke, if anything Mitrovic should be booked for simulation. How anyone can watch that sever times and decide its a red card is beyond me but then again its Mike Dean who's borderline incompetent and was awful for the Man U Southampton game. If I was as bad at my job I'd expect to be fired but he'll be free to be useless again next week
Mike Dean is at veteran stage and so his days are numbered. This clown never refereed with empathy and always thought he was the most important person on the pitch. Good riddance!
Losing the will to watch football after watching that..
Bar the last 10 minutes or so it was seriously lacking any excitement at all.
Bar the last 10 minutes or so it was seriously lacking any excitement at all.
Agreed, lots of huffing and puffing but the house stayed up
Blatant red for throwing the point of the elbow.
I'm impressed with Mike Dean.
He got to the 97th minute to red card someone, i'm sure in his head, how boring it was he wanted to red card the whole of both teams.
He got to the 97th minute to red card someone, i'm sure in his head, how boring it was he wanted to red card the whole of both teams.
VAR is corrupt, misses blatant penalties but sees a red card for that just before West Ham play Man Utd.
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It can be appealed, surely.
Excuses, excuses. Petty. Now that we've secured Champions League football, it's time for the rest to fall like dominoes as well.
#YNWA
#YNWA
VAR is merely the technology to assist referees.
The problem is that the referees are still the same
The problem is that the referees are still the same
Apparently in the County v West Ham cup match he booked nobody & only gave 7 fouls against us in the match.
He left all his cards in the changing rooms for Everton v Leicester last week. You would have had to commit ABH to get booked in the first half of that one. So he's not even consistent in how he applies his incompetence.
Probably his beloved Tranmere Rovers,his level!!
And fantasy premier League teams too...
Not as much as Hassenhuttl is lol.
VAR out
Mike Dean an absolute disgrace shows West Ham midfielder Tomas Soucek a red card for an accidental elbow on Aleksandar Mitrovic. No way did Soucek deliberately elbow and West Ham will be without for three games now. Fulham put up a spirited performance and will be happy with the point against the Hammers. Miracles happen and if Fulham stick at it they could still survive phoenix from the ashes.
West Ham will no doubt appeal. And if Mike Dean's Mum isn't on the panel it will be rescinded.
Most red cards are accidental. Players going over the ball aren't trying break someone's leg but it's red card. Soucek elbowed Mirovic in the face, clear cut red card!
And VAR plumbs new depths. This was an odd game. Plenty of effort & endeavour from both sides, but it still felt like a training match, somehow. Lots of hustle, but nothing really happened, and it never seemed it would.
And then, right at the end, man lifts elbow, brushes opponent's face... I've seen some stupid red cards; a couple this week; but that?!
And then, right at the end, man lifts elbow, brushes opponent's face... I've seen some stupid red cards; a couple this week; but that?!
It has to be the Mike Dean Roadshow again!!
If you want to see a proper red card offence try Mitrovic on Ben White last season
It's not VAR. Its the referees/panel using it. If there was a deliberate (it was not in this case) elbow in a game and a ref misses it then it is good to be able to go to VAR.
This isn’t VAR’s fault, it’s Lee Mason and Mike Dean’s fault.
Swan lake?
Beeb, who are Rose Hafez and Begley, the three stooges ?
I love the way the beeb hate West Ham, how about you look at the table beeb read it and weep.
The red will be reversed on appeal.
I love the way the beeb hate West Ham, how about you look at the table beeb read it and weep.
The red will be reversed on appeal.
Lingard plays well for 1 game then goes missing ...good job he’s on pay as you play as surely he won’t be sighted again after that dismal display
Lingered should be judged over a dozen games fools say he should be recalled to the England squad, not yet surely. Personally nowhere near national standard.
In the reverse game lookman had a laughable excuse of a penalty at the very end.
And this time...souchek sees red for an accidental elbow, at the very end.
Injury times between Fulham and west ham are fun ??
And this time...souchek sees red for an accidental elbow, at the very end.
Injury times between Fulham and west ham are fun ??
Cannot wrap my head around why Moyes would bring on Noble ahead of playmakers Lanzini and Fornals ????
Played for a draw ...keeper booked for time wasting against Fulham !
Mile Dean makes sure he gets the headlines again.
He can even make his face change colour according to the above photo
Never a red card What is the point of VAR if you can’t see that was accidental ?????
Stupid refereeing
Stupid refereeing
It was a deliberate elbow, instead of trying to push the player away with the elbow was raised ‘accidentally’.
You do realise you can get a red card for something that’s not deliberate ?
come of it - clear elbow to the face - intention disguised and you've not played the game if you cannot see that.
It's the rules we all live by, Assault on the field is an offence punishable by a red card, Assault off the field is a criminal offence.
Mike Dean is an absolute waste of space. Joke of a ref and watch that card get rescinded. A boring game but Fulham looked like more of a threat than us... I got downvoted the other day because I said we still needed a striker... We do.
Agreed. In my opinion Antonio is a good player but not a finisher. I know he has scored a few but misses many many more. Not strong on his left foot. Pundits got ahead of themselves with Lingard, time will tell whether he can regularly get amongst the goals
Dean is a power mad clown and VAR is his squirty flower.
Brilliant.That did make me laugh.
True but the serious side of this is what kind of idiots are in charge of football? Whether it is the Premier league or the FA or anyone else, they seem to know nothing about the game or the fans who follow it. THEY WILL EVENTUALLY DESTROY IT
#best description of how these so called Professional Ref's are using VAR yet. Its supposed to be the beautiful game! now it like when predator took him mask off?? one ugly mother.....
Agreed but if ever there was a war and you found yourself in a trench, the last person you would want by your side would be Mitrovic.
What a joke. What a clown. Mitrovic is embaressed by his dive and tells the ref who STILL sends him off !!
PATHETIC. GET RID OF VAR IT IS S-H-I you get the rest...
PATHETIC. GET RID OF VAR IT IS S-H-I you get the rest...
I think var is good for off side or goal over the line decisions but Deans carry on was just pathetic
Mitrovic is lucky not to be seriously injured. Soucek tried to get him with the point of his elbow.
Did he? Because I did think, it's a bit sad going down like that clutching your face when you've been just grazed by an elbow - trying to get a fellow professional sent off in the dying seconds of a game, you're not even going to win the game for your team, it's literally just malice. So I'd like to think he has at least some conscience.
Blatant red for throwing the point of the elbow.
Fulham will look back on this game with some regret. They were by far the better team but again found scoring difficult. If they could sort the scoring out as well as they have sorted the defence then they'd be well clear of the relegation zone. There is still hope.
Red card looked a bit harsh.
Red card looked a bit harsh.
Ridiculous that West Ham should be so high in the table, but this was the sort of performance you'd expect from a team mismanaged by Moyes.
Hard Labour
You obviously have never played the game
You obviously have never played the game
MIKE DEAN AGAIN....!!!
Yeah he's killing the game...
The FA/PL is losing grip on their refs...!!
Like such a poor quality match needed yet another VAR lash up and MIke Me Me Me Dean to drag it even deeper into the mire.
Has VAR made the game better?
Less daft decisions?
No.
Then scrap it.
Less daft decisions?
No.
Then scrap it.
Dean stood there and watched it happen and didn't make ANY decision on his own original view.
Strange.
Strange.
Mike Dean watches that incident about 10 times, so he wasnt sure until the 10th take, complete joke, Souceks elbow just made the slightest contact and Mitrovic goes down like a sack of potatoes, and it was Mitrovic who started it by pushing Soucek in the first place.
What has football come to.
What has football come to.
Football is reasonably ok... apart from players screaming at referees every decision..and much mouthing obscenities. The "fans" are...I wish a joke. Banter used to be fun, now it is just nasty, ignorant and all about despising other teams rather than constructive view of the game on hys. Loved the rugby union today ??
Blatant red for throwing the point of the elbow.
Once again, the laughing stock that is VAR and referees that habitually get it wrong - even with assistance. Remove VAR or remove the humans from such decisions.
All about Dean, even mitrovic said it was accidental, but no, Dean has to steal the headlines, officials are bigger than the game.
Waste of space the lot of em
Waste of space the lot of em
That was the typical Hammers performance from years gone by. At least there's not been too many this season and we're doing ok. Seems whenever talk of Europe starts we have a stinker. Bring on Man U and remember Hillsborough '64.
A goaless draw, but you can always rely on Mike Dean to grab the headlines, lol, How is this guy still refereeing? The red will surely be overturned, but it must be burning a hole in Dean's pocket. He's gotta get it out! : )
Fair point each I thought. Hammers didn't turn up tonight. COYI 'x'
Fair point each I thought. Hammers didn't turn up tonight. COYI 'x'
2 points thrown away and a major player lost for 3 games suppose there will be an appeal just be thankful it didn't happen earlier in the game Emptyham might just have won from a neutral
My word, dean and mason completely clueless an absolute disgrace, dean loves the attention, how anybody can take that long to make a decision is beyond me, anyone who has played the game knows it was an awful decision. Draw right result. Hopefully the red card is overturned and mason, dean, friend and moss are sent on there way.
First of all, if Fulham are missing that many chances, no way do they deserve to stay up. This season has been the most boring relegation battle since 2003-04.
Also, never a red. Totally accidental. VAR should have ushered in a new era of games no longer being ruined by terrible decisions. Now the standard of English refereeing is worse than ever. If it can't be scrapped something needs to change
Also, never a red. Totally accidental. VAR should have ushered in a new era of games no longer being ruined by terrible decisions. Now the standard of English refereeing is worse than ever. If it can't be scrapped something needs to change
Football has sanitised itself,is everybody happy now? Be careful what you wish for
no tackles,no contact without giving away a foulr...and probably soon heading will be outlawed.....might as well play in slippers,and smoke a pipe at the same time
Fulham are fighting hard. They have added a point to their tally. A few more and they will be out of the bottom three. All the best.
You know I bet Mike Dean loves it when VAR calls him to monitor, it means top flight's most attention seeking referee can have the cameras on him for more than one minuite.
Hey guys I can't find where to give Mike Dean his rating...
Clearly knows how to take over the match, especially in the last few minutes!
Absolutely on fire this week.
Clearly knows how to take over the match, especially in the last few minutes!
Absolutely on fire this week.
Referees continue to screw up without any ramifications and the BBC do nothing in case they upset anyone ever
It's hardly up to the bbc to do anything. The Premier league needs to get rid of Mike Dean.
Not that the BBC is above criticism (most definitely not) but exactly how are they supposed to intervene or influence anything in cases like these?
Mike Dean and Lee Mason single handedly making football a laughing stock.
It is week 21 of the big TV show, nothing else.
Get a grip.
Get a grip.
There's two of them....so they can't single handedly do anything....
otherwise you're right!
Dean seems to spoil every game he officiates.
otherwise you're right!
Dean seems to spoil every game he officiates.
Add Craig Pawson to the list of incompetent officials. Shocking useless trio
The trouble is, these two mu**ets had a red card overturned last week (Soton) so the chances of them being overturned again in minimal because it'd make Dean & Mason look bad - sad but true
The reason var was introduced was because of dire refereeing, we now have the same refs making var decisions
I think over reacting comments like yours so much more damage
I don't support Southampton or West Ham.... But I think the decisions made by Mike Reed are a disgrace....
Yes indeed, Mike Reed's banning of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's Relax was a disgrace....... that backfired.
Time to kick all the southern teams out the Premier League, they only get points when they play each other. Restrict the league to northern teams only as that's where all the successful football teams are
A long journey home for Southampton from Newcastle today then. Must seem even longer after today's game. Watched Carlisle play at Portsmouth a fair few years ago in the last game of the season and there were 11 Carlisle supporters present. You may have a point Joe. :)
and restrict the FA Cup to Midlands teams only that way one of us might win it again!
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Your report says "Soucek was sent off for elbowing Mitrovic". Is that honestly good journalism?
Right or wrong, that's why he
was dismissed
was dismissed
Regardless of the red... Mike Dean was on Fulham's side all match. Every touch and a free kick was given but West Ham players were told to get up.
That being said we were awful, Antonio looks wrecked and disheartend. Bowen is totally off boil and has been for several games.
Really going to need players to step up if they want anything more this season than survival and potential top half finish.
That being said we were awful, Antonio looks wrecked and disheartend. Bowen is totally off boil and has been for several games.
Really going to need players to step up if they want anything more this season than survival and potential top half finish.
Mike Dean is a show pony who loves to be the centre of attention. It was not intentional and was not a red card. Anybody with half a brain could see that so why is he getting sent off? Him and Lee Mason are so poor at their job
West Hams next game is against Man United. They were always going to send him off and get him suspended for that one....
Never a red card What is the point of VAR if you can’t see that was accidental ?????
Stupid refereeing
Stupid refereeing
So deliberate that not a single commentator or pundit thought it was a red card.
Being an honest West Ham supporter, I think we’re lucky to get a draw, but really, you think that was a red card? You are either very sad or very misguided.
Are you
A) Mike Dean
B) Lee Mason
C) a melt
A) Mike Dean
B) Lee Mason
C) a melt
deliberate. Hilarious Nice trolling fella. I'm assuming the 06 is your year of birth and you're a 14 year old clown
It's the rules we all live by, Assault on the field is an offence punishable by a red card, Assault off the field is a criminal offence.
infantile reply to a well reasoned argument, hardly worth a counter reply...
I thought tonight’s episode of the Mike Dean show was a drab affair
Cannot wrap my head around why Moyes would bring on Noble ahead of playmakers Lanzini and Fornals ????
Another me me me performance from Mike Dean. How is he still allowed to referee?
Mike Dean loves to be the centre of attention and since there wasn't much on show he found a way - Mitrovic pushes Soucek, he pushes back and gets RED. Add VAR to Dean and you will have choas. West Ham didn't show up after a great win at Villa, but we can only hope that card is reversed or he will miss 3. I bet Moyes will field many questions about the lack of a Striker now.
Ridiculous that West Ham should be so high in the table, but this was the sort of performance you'd expect from a team mismanaged by Moyes.
Dean’s parentage has to be questioned after this game
It’s a shame there was no supporters in the stadium as I am sure a few coins would have been aimed at him
It’s a shame there was no supporters in the stadium as I am sure a few coins would have been aimed at him
Throwing coins at anyone even if it was a poor decision is disgusting and dangerous the fact you think it's okay is disgusting
People like you are not needed at games
People like you are not needed at games
This season Seen a player completely get away with ending somebody’s season and yet that is deemed a red card the games going mad. Only a clown could think that deserved red.
Mike Dean strikes again.
MIT cheat, no respect for you big man, embarrassing and u know it -
How dare Mitro headbutt his elbow ??
Var ruining football. Mike Dean an absolute disgrace, should be fired. Enough said. Leicester fan in Canada.
Canada Eh? Can you please explain Hockey to me. Only been in BC for 5 years and still don’t get it.
Good luck for the rest of your season.
If you are ever in Vancouver there is a fantastic MCFC pub that shows games live.
Good luck for the rest of your season.
If you are ever in Vancouver there is a fantastic MCFC pub that shows games live.
Scott Parker always looks so cool and laid back. He'll probably look the same when the final nail is hammered into Fulham's relegation coffin at the end of the season.
Agreed Parker'out', Eddie Howe in, ASAP??????
Mike Dean is a good referee UP for Yes.
As a neutral Fulham were the best side tonight.Some good football and are a decent watch but they just seem to lack that composure in front of goal. Even at this stage I just don't think they are capable of putting a winning run together to escape the bottom three.
Were you watching the same game? The rugby was more entertaining & im no rugger fan...
If that's a red card then football has really gone to the dogs. Every VAR decision is getting worse by the day. I'm not a West Ham or Fulham fan but I was raging at the end. Honestly, how bad can it get.
I have tried to give VAR the benefit of doubt but it's wearing really thin now. These refs need to put on the spot and held accountable!
I have tried to give VAR the benefit of doubt but it's wearing really thin now. These refs need to put on the spot and held accountable!
Ridiculous that West Ham should be so high in the table, but this was the sort of performance you'd expect from a team mismanaged by Moyes.
West Ham are back on form - one shot on target during the course of a whole game.
No allegiance to either side, but the more decisions I see going to VAR, the more I think that the officials are on some crazy power trip.
Never a red card in a month of Sundays, absolutely no intent on the part of Soucek, more of just trying to shake off the grabbing arms of Mitrovic.
Making a complete mockery of fair play and doing the game no favours whatsoever.
Never a red card in a month of Sundays, absolutely no intent on the part of Soucek, more of just trying to shake off the grabbing arms of Mitrovic.
Making a complete mockery of fair play and doing the game no favours whatsoever.
That was two yellows for exactly the same thing. Once you’ve been booked, to do exactly the same thing again is giving the ref a license to make that decision. This is in no way similar to Soucek today. Sour grapes?
VAR is corrupt, misses blatant penalties but sees a red card for that just before West Ham play Man Utd.
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After 10 mins, Moyes should have stopped them having the confidence to play out from the back, mistakes were there to capitalize on. Wished West ham could have mentally pretended they were up against Man city. Way too relaxed tonight. So frustrating when they could of given more, Top 4 spot was up for grand with a win.
AND GON??