Firms call for details of post lockdown reopening so they can plan
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The CBI employers' group tells the government a post-Covid economic strategy will unlock investment.
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Vaccinate fast to get places open again, the cost of keeping them closed will reach much further than the virus
Well we could do something stupid like give away our vaccines before we have protected our whole population and risk more lockdowns later down the line. Business, and the people, would love that.
"Our" vaccines?
Who do you suppose made them, or are you advocating they are commandeered by govt. Theft is always a good vote-winner, yes?
Who do you suppose made them, or are you advocating they are commandeered by govt. Theft is always a good vote-winner, yes?
Our Vaccine - yeh - after a day of EU bashing you now show your true colours. Its pointless Vaxing UK letting us all go abroad, spreading it like we dont care. Ive only heard a UK minister say helping Vax the world was problematic. Where others say we need to get Vaxing all over the world. Your precious boarders again, insular thinking - your view of the UK looks like an animal consuming itself
Let's vaccinate and get the wheels rolling again.
Get the lion roaring and the UK back on track.
Get the lion roaring and the UK back on track.
In your dreams! CBI has failed to mention that thousands of shops, restaurants and pubs premises across the UK will never reopen as they have gone into Administration eg Debenhams, Arcadia, Top Shop, Top Man, Miss Selfridge. At least 25,000 Retail workers in those shops have lost their jobs.
`Get the lion roaring...'
What complete and utter row-locks!
What complete and utter row-locks!
Remind me where do Lions come from... UK is a braying gaggle of donkeys.
CBI has failed to mention that thousands of shops, restaurants and pubs premises across the UK will never reopen as they have gone into Administration eg Debenhams, Arcadia, Top Shop, Top Man, Miss Selfridge. At least 25,000 Retail workers in those shops have lost their jobs.
That's not their fault either. They were just following orders/waiting for advice from politicians who are experts in retail and catering, what do they and their members know about it, nothing of course.
The businesses you mention were already in trouble before the pandemic.
Arcadia's closure had nothing to do with Covid or Brexit, it was entirely due to bad management. Have a go at Phil Green instead.
Debenhams were going down the pan before the virus started, the same as BHS and House of Fraser were. Nothing to do with the virus or the Government. Coming out of the lockdown relies in part on the public following the rules, and there are far too many not doing at present. Also fools who believe what they read on Facebook rather than believe a scientist, so refuse the vaccine.
Yes, lots of businesses may go in to administration but others will take their place to satisfy demand - re-employing those that have unfortunately lost their jobs.
Business will bounce back.
Take this as an opportunity for a re-levelling - perhaps greedy landlords will learn that they cannot charge exorbitant rents to fill their ugly, soulless shopping malls.
Business will bounce back.
Take this as an opportunity for a re-levelling - perhaps greedy landlords will learn that they cannot charge exorbitant rents to fill their ugly, soulless shopping malls.
One thing's for sure
Lockdown's ending here way before the EU
Well done Boris
Lockdown's ending here way before the EU
Well done Boris
I wouldn’t count on that. Boris evasive at best, and has been known to lie lots. Sadly I think it could be months yet.
Too soon to plan.
Until groups 1-9 have had both jabs and a firm timetable is in place for the vaccination of the rest of the adult working population, "businesses should not be planning for anything other than Tier 3 restrictions " would be my best guess.
Until groups 1-9 have had both jabs and a firm timetable is in place for the vaccination of the rest of the adult working population, "businesses should not be planning for anything other than Tier 3 restrictions " would be my best guess.
Change the tune CBI. Lockdown will end when it ends.
No HYS this morning on the antics of Bully Boy Brussels and who has been shafted out of 9m doses to placate them ????
A falsehood. Check the data here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
CBI only doing what they think they should be doing, ie. representing business. That said, most large businesses I've ever been associated with have elevated business and scenario planning to something of an art-form. They'll have plans already, even if they say they don't.
A falsehood. Check the data here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
Actually, it is. If you look at countries with any sizeable population (over 20m) then the UK's death toll per 100k of population is the WORST IN THE WORLD. Only Italy comes close (badly affected in the first wave) and the USA (caused by a moronic president).
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??
It would be good for the government to provide at least a rough idea of the order in which businesses can open up. Venues to improve people's health - gyms, leisure centres, swimming pools, amateur sport, etc. - would seem like a good place to start.
Yes it would be a good idea, but this is a buffoon led Govt, stacked full of head nodding sycophants, so it's not going to happen!??
So you don't think they should take into account which of them provide essential services (e.g. food, power, etc.) which are difficult or impossible to substitute or are likely to bring people together in an environment where inadvertent & deliberate contact is inevitable. Nobody has to go to any of those places for basic exercise, quite a lot of exercise can actually be done safely at home.
The government has made it quite clear that it will tell us during the 3rd week of February what will/will not open based on the covid figures of the week before. People need to be patient and continue to do what they are meant to in the interim
Once the effect of vaccinating the most vulnerable kicks in we should see hospitalisations plummet, and there won't be a rebound.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
They should ask yer man from (C)Ryanair.........he seems to be able to predict the business future....well in his opinion anyways!
CBI only doing what they think they should be doing, ie. representing business. That said, most large businesses I've ever been associated with have elevated business and scenario planning to something of an art-form. They'll have plans already, even if they say they don't.
Jez you are a broken record with a record number of comments...
Why don;t you ask the Virus what its plans are? And as for the government, at least they aren't like the opposition, who seem to think we should vaccinate the least needy first!
Thats because how you run a business is not up to Govt it is up to business.
CBI is dead right. If only this hopeless govt. had a plan. Now we have Handcock telling us to look forward to our summer holidays whilst Liz Truss says the very opposite. Hopeless.
That members of the same party have different views is a sure sign that it's not a simple matter with a right and wrong answer.
Why don't you ask the virus what its plans are?
Change the tune CBI. Lockdown will end when it ends.
It would be good for the government to provide at least a rough idea of the order in which businesses can open up. Venues to improve people's health - gyms, leisure centres, swimming pools, amateur sport, etc. - would seem like a good place to start.
They should ask yer man from (C)Ryanair.........he seems to be able to predict the business future....well in his opinion anyways!
Once the effect of vaccinating the most vulnerable kicks in we should see hospitalisations plummet, and there won't be a rebound.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
There are lots of medical experts. Isn't it funny how the government only listens and publicises the views of those who are scaredy cats.
There are plenty of others, who do not support such a timid approach, but they are never given a platform.
There are plenty of others, who do not support such a timid approach, but they are never given a platform.
Until the infection rate is down low enough no one knows the time scale, CBI should be blaming the idiots having raves, boat parties, weddings and baby showers for the uncertainty.
What about the latest PL footballer, who just had to have his hair cut? Or the Tory ex-minister who's deliberately undermined the Govts Covid response? The Govt & PM have come down hard on them....... oh hang on, no they haven't! Don't blame normal people when they see the actions of the mighty!??
You missed out the house party numpties....
The PM who said "F*** business" doesn't have a plan to help businesses?
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
You are still struggling with the context of the comment.
When Boris said that about business, it was in response to lobby groups of **some** businesses saying that Brexit should be cancelled. The referendum was a democratic process for **people** to express their opinion. Businesses didnt get a vote. Or do you want Businesses to be able to vote at the next General Election???
When Boris said that about business, it was in response to lobby groups of **some** businesses saying that Brexit should be cancelled. The referendum was a democratic process for **people** to express their opinion. Businesses didnt get a vote. Or do you want Businesses to be able to vote at the next General Election???
Personal responsibility, ever heard of that? Something I suspect you dont have, always someone else's fault?
I think you can blame people for irresponsible behavior including following bad examples by others, regard of them being a sleb, influencer, politician, political adviser or ordinary.
What about you, are you a sheep? Can't work it out for yourself? Need someone to show you? Need Labour's great exapmle? Libdems? SNP? Ravers? Gary Lineker? Were you on the beach in Dorset last summer? Couldn't understand the 2mtr rule? Are three words too many for you to grasp?
Are you the most expert of them all?
There's plenty of scaredy cats saying don't play football on the motorway. Pfft. If only we listened to the bold instead, then it would be wonderful for us all?
There's plenty of scaredy cats saying cancer is bad, and smoking causes it. Pfft. My imaginary scientist says otherwise.
There's plenty of scaredy cats saying don't play football on the motorway. Pfft. If only we listened to the bold instead, then it would be wonderful for us all?
There's plenty of scaredy cats saying cancer is bad, and smoking causes it. Pfft. My imaginary scientist says otherwise.
Firms call for details of post lockdown reopening so they can plan.
We are in the middle of a brilliant vaccination roll out and nearly 9 million with the first dose in lockdown. Lets keep sticking to the rigid vaccination programme and review matters consistent with what the science says as the only way back to rebuild our economy etc is the vaccination and we are leading the way.
We are in the middle of a brilliant vaccination roll out and nearly 9 million with the first dose in lockdown. Lets keep sticking to the rigid vaccination programme and review matters consistent with what the science says as the only way back to rebuild our economy etc is the vaccination and we are leading the way.
Business we want money and couldn't give a flying if people die
We want their money NOW!
We want their money NOW!
The CBI....clueless monolith. rather than demand, how about propose some routes? Very likely because they are incompetent? Or more likely dont want to take any responsibility
Because you just copy & paste that "comment" into everything.
They are not, much as it may seem strange to your hatred of everything, responsible for government. They are doing their job.
What's yours? Are you also a clueless monolith, incompetent, and shirking responsibility by not ... curing cancer? washing my car? Anything else that's not your job?
They are not, much as it may seem strange to your hatred of everything, responsible for government. They are doing their job.
What's yours? Are you also a clueless monolith, incompetent, and shirking responsibility by not ... curing cancer? washing my car? Anything else that's not your job?
If they say they cannot plan without certainty from the government, why can they not see that the government has even less chance of providing certainty about Covid since Covid refuses to pay attention to anyone and irritatingly and unpredictably mutates.
The PM who said "F*** business" doesn't have a plan to help businesses?
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
With lefties, it is always someone else's fault.
Slim
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
Thanks for the aggressive reply! Very grown up!
The Govt should be modelling various scenarios based on the massive myriad of data they have & can then begin to formulate plans based on the most likely scenarios. They don't need a timescale, but they do need a plan, a map to get us out of this mess that they have been complicit in making! This plan
then needs parliamentary & public scrutiny!??
The Govt should be modelling various scenarios based on the massive myriad of data they have & can then begin to formulate plans based on the most likely scenarios. They don't need a timescale, but they do need a plan, a map to get us out of this mess that they have been complicit in making! This plan
then needs parliamentary & public scrutiny!??
Stages #1: When death rate is below 100 a day, hospital bed availability is above 50% and daily infection rate is below 10,000 day primary schools can reopen. Arbitrary figures, but it would let people know.
Viruses don't "do" anything. They're not alive.
No the advice is obvious: don't rely on someone else to do your thinking for you, especially when you're well paid for your skills and expertise. Only the stupid can be blameless for not thinking for themselves.
What about the latest PL footballer, who just had to have his hair cut? Or the Tory ex-minister who's deliberately undermined the Govts Covid response? The Govt & PM have come down hard on them....... oh hang on, no they haven't! Don't blame normal people when they see the actions of the mighty!??
"Always someone else's fault" is the standard default position of the UK Govt! Well done for highlighting this!??
Which article are you commenting on? If you want to have a debate, go away and have one.
This article is about ,,, oh never mind, it's all about how much you love/hate Brexit / EU / SNP / USA / trans / vegan / the poor|rich / teachers.
This article is about ,,, oh never mind, it's all about how much you love/hate Brexit / EU / SNP / USA / trans / vegan / the poor|rich / teachers.
Boris93 has a plan?
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Oh that’s clever. Boris93
You ve linked the pm to the deaths. I see. Bit like Trump did with his “Kung Flu” comment.
That was clever too wasn’t it?
You ve linked the pm to the deaths. I see. Bit like Trump did with his “Kung Flu” comment.
That was clever too wasn’t it?
That's generous, describing the actions of Boris & his sycophantic Govt as "leadership"!??
There are lots of medical experts. Isn't it funny how the government only listens and publicises the views of those who are scaredy cats.
There are plenty of others, who do not support such a timid approach, but they are never given a platform.
There are plenty of others, who do not support such a timid approach, but they are never given a platform.
What about the latest PL footballer, who just had to have his hair cut? Or the Tory ex-minister who's deliberately undermined the Govts Covid response? The Govt & PM have come down hard on them....... oh hang on, no they haven't! Don't blame normal people when they see the actions of the mighty!??
The cinema business should die out now, it is odd it still exited. Moving pictures are delivered to the home for some considerable time now. Vastly more pleasant than trekking out to a town at great expense to see a film when they deign to show it. Bombarded with overpriced snacks and stuffed in with strangers coughing spluttering and filling about. Bye bye cinema no longer be missed.
Excellent plan! More employees added to the Tory unemployment pile!??
Glad to hear you won't be leaving your little village any time soon. Makes being out and about more pleasant for the rest of us.
What on earth are you on about now?
You don't like the cinema? Don't go.
You think the cinema business is doomed? Sell your shares.
You want to destroy it because you are the only person with a valid opinion? Go figure yourself. Twice.
You don't like the cinema? Don't go.
You think the cinema business is doomed? Sell your shares.
You want to destroy it because you are the only person with a valid opinion? Go figure yourself. Twice.
Once the effect of vaccinating the most vulnerable kicks in we should see hospitalisations plummet, and there won't be a rebound.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
Because of the immense damage being done, in so many areas, by lockdown, we then need to see a very rapid removal of restrictions. Not some lily-livered drip feed approach that will cause vastly more damage and misery.
The PM who said "F*** business" doesn't have a plan to help businesses?
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Slim
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
Thanks for the aggressive reply! Very grown up!
The Govt should be modelling various scenarios based on the massive myriad of data they have & can then begin to formulate plans based on the most likely scenarios. They don't need a timescale, but they do need a plan, a map to get us out of this mess that they have been complicit in making! This plan
then needs parliamentary & public scrutiny!??
The Govt should be modelling various scenarios based on the massive myriad of data they have & can then begin to formulate plans based on the most likely scenarios. They don't need a timescale, but they do need a plan, a map to get us out of this mess that they have been complicit in making! This plan
then needs parliamentary & public scrutiny!??
Slim
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
10:39
"Of course businesses are in the dark over reopening, the Govt doesn't have a plan! Nor a clue, nor an idea! Nor a direction! So sadly, it's more economic woe! ??"
So come on then Genius, tell us - what is the virus going to do next. Experts thought it would be over last year and were wrong but clearly you have a superior intellect.
Answer to the CBI:
Look around, use your own brains and get in the queue!
Look around, use your own brains and get in the queue!
The cinema business should die out now, it is odd it still exited. Moving pictures are delivered to the home for some considerable time now. Vastly more pleasant than trekking out to a town at great expense to see a film when they deign to show it. Bombarded with overpriced snacks and stuffed in with strangers coughing spluttering and filling about. Bye bye cinema no longer be missed.
Yes so does that make every new area of jobs creating 'Tory' employment boosting? All those new burgeoning content creation jobs for on line on demand tv? Instead of selling popcorn. Perhaps you are still cross about the combine taking away your work in the fields?
I can’t believe how slow labour have been to demand the gov give detailed plans of reopening.
Too slow sir kier. Too little too late.
Labour should have been demanding this before the lockdown.
Shambolic!
Too slow sir kier. Too little too late.
Labour should have been demanding this before the lockdown.
Shambolic!
Boris93 has a plan?
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
If Boris can take the credit for the vaccine roll out, he has to take the blame for the huge number of deaths. That much must be obvious.
Boris93 has a plan?
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Boris93 has a plan?
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
Businesses can trust what Boris93 says?
People can trust what Boris93 does? Like closing the borders and locking down in time?
I doubt the 93,448 people who died of Covid-19 in England within 28 days of positive test by date reported would agree.
And yes that did happen under his "leadership".
CBI is dead right. If only this hopeless govt. had a plan. Now we have Handcock telling us to look forward to our summer holidays whilst Liz Truss says the very opposite. Hopeless.
CBI is dead right. If only this hopeless govt. had a plan. Now we have Handcock telling us to look forward to our summer holidays whilst Liz Truss says the very opposite. Hopeless.
A falsehood. Check the data here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
UK numbers are horrible, but death rate is not the highest in the world (either by total deaths or deaths per 1m population) as you incorrectly state.
Actually, it is. If you look at countries with any sizeable population (over 20m) then the UK's death toll per 100k of population is the WORST IN THE WORLD. Only Italy comes close (badly affected in the first wave) and the USA (caused by a moronic president).
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
So it is a falsehood then?
I see you have framed the question to get the result you wanted.
I see you have framed the question to get the result you wanted.
"Worst in the world apart from these 2 other countries"
So.... *not* the worst in the world, then? Neither by absolute numbers, nor per capita.
So.... *not* the worst in the world, then? Neither by absolute numbers, nor per capita.
I guess that's what happens when you have a very open economy, are a global hub, have a high proportion of BAME residents in a northern clime and have a high proportion of ones residents who are obese etc. Or are you suggesting it's all BoJo's fault?
The CBI got almost every one of its cataclysmic predictions over Brexit wrong. It became a political organ of the Remain cause, so that its credibility as an unbiased representative of British Industry was shattered.
It has a lot of bridge-building to do before it will be taken seriously by anyone who knows about this sort of stuff.
It has a lot of bridge-building to do before it will be taken seriously by anyone who knows about this sort of stuff.
Web don't know yet what the result of Brexit will be as Covid has distorted everything. When over 40% of trucks are returning to mainland Europe empty then something is surely amiss, Also trade is currently greatly reduced within UK and therefore demand is low on all fronts, only partially made up with internet sales. If things turn out bad Levers will use Covid as reason for it.
Well it works for the opposition and is not exactly uncommon outside of politics either. Do you have a plan and savings for a rainy day?
I have a plan - let the CBI decide and tell businesses what to do.
They they can take the rap when it all goes tits up.
They they can take the rap when it all goes tits up.
Or they could just say they are doing their best and borrow the government's excuse.
The PM who said "F*** business" doesn't have a plan to help businesses?
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Doesn't matter. So long as there's one place where things are going a little bit worse than here, people can defend him by saying "yeah, well, it's not as bad as *insert place*"
Never mind businesses. He's stuffed the country.
Yeah mate. That 14bn to their ERG mate Dido Harding for that track & trace app was a great success that really benefitted us all, didn't it!?
Or do you mean the Eat Out To Help Out scheme that helped ensure the UK has one of the highest infection & death rates on the planet?
You're right, Purple Wall. Out govt have been the shining example of how not to be corrupt and how to stop a virus.
Or do you mean the Eat Out To Help Out scheme that helped ensure the UK has one of the highest infection & death rates on the planet?
You're right, Purple Wall. Out govt have been the shining example of how not to be corrupt and how to stop a virus.
Good ship UK is heading towards prosperous business and trade waters.
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US
"Firms call for details of post lockdown reopening so they can plan"
Bozo the Clown does not do details or much else of value.
To quote Leo Amery in Westminster talking about Chamberlain during WWII...
"You have sat here too long for any good you are doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"
Yes Bozo.
Go!
Bozo the Clown does not do details or much else of value.
To quote Leo Amery in Westminster talking about Chamberlain during WWII...
"You have sat here too long for any good you are doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"
Yes Bozo.
Go!
What about the latest PL footballer, who just had to have his hair cut? Or the Tory ex-minister who's deliberately undermined the Govts Covid response? The Govt & PM have come down hard on them....... oh hang on, no they haven't! Don't blame normal people when they see the actions of the mighty!??
Its very very simple and something HMG should have been doing for the last 50 years anyway. BUY BRITISH. Every single American fighter jet, German police car, Scandinavian fire engine or Korean naval support vessel represents money (demand) and jobs leaving the UK and never returning. With the demand lowering so do wages thus people taking up the skills we need. Leads to empty factories, shipyards
Tell that to the UK public buying foreign cars and consumer goods.
UK government buys more British Goods than the public % wise.
UK government buys more British Goods than the public % wise.
Good ship UK is heading towards prosperous business and trade waters.
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US
The CBI got almost every one of its cataclysmic predictions over Brexit wrong. It became a political organ of the Remain cause, so that its credibility as an unbiased representative of British Industry was shattered.
It has a lot of bridge-building to do before it will be taken seriously by anyone who knows about this sort of stuff.
It has a lot of bridge-building to do before it will be taken seriously by anyone who knows about this sort of stuff.
Web don't know yet what the result of Brexit will be as Covid has distorted everything. When over 40% of trucks are returning to mainland Europe empty then something is surely amiss, Also trade is currently greatly reduced within UK and therefore demand is low on all fronts, only partially made up with internet sales. If things turn out bad Levers will use Covid as reason for it.
Businesses and their v well paid execs can develop plans assuming various scenarios without the government, surely?
The more scenarios that don't happen the more time and money you waste.
Is the Govt now that insignificant & invisible that businesses no longer need to take Govt business policy or plans into account anymore? Wow! ??
I can easily develop plans, but if the Government acts on a couple of days notice to make m plans unworkable, it doesn't really help, does it.
I am certain that this virus will not go away, mutate and go on infecting.....we will have to get used to having something in our breathable air which is more deadly that we are used to. Average age of death will fall for the first time. Vaccines will always be one step behind. Although not welcome by most, in the great scheme of things it is probably in our best interest.
If they say they cannot plan without certainty from the government, why can they not see that the government has even less chance of providing certainty about Covid since Covid refuses to pay attention to anyone and irritatingly and unpredictably mutates.
Covid doesn't share it's plans with anyone. At least the CBI can consult widely, has it tried talking to it's customers and shareholders?
I am certain that this virus will not go away, mutate and go on infecting.....we will have to get used to having something in our breathable air which is more deadly that we are used to. Average age of death will fall for the first time. Vaccines will always be one step behind. Although not welcome by most, in the great scheme of things it is probably in our best interest.
Yes - but vaccines are a prediction of mutations, not a cure all - we just have to get used to it
Some of us are young, fit & healthy enough where we dont need the flu vaccine.??
Businesses and their v well paid execs can develop plans assuming various scenarios without the government, surely?
They're richly rewarded for doing what they say is a difficult job, now is the time for them to earn it or step aside.
Businesses and their v well paid execs can develop plans assuming various scenarios without the government, surely?
Well they could try consulting their customers and shareholders for advice or even using their own skills, as they're so richly rewarded they must be highly competent surely.
In your dreams! CBI has failed to mention that thousands of shops, restaurants and pubs premises across the UK will never reopen as they have gone into Administration eg Debenhams, Arcadia, Top Shop, Top Man, Miss Selfridge. At least 25,000 Retail workers in those shops have lost their jobs.
Yes, lots of businesses may go in to administration but others will take their place to satisfy demand - re-employing those that have unfortunately lost their jobs.
Business will bounce back.
Take this as an opportunity for a re-levelling - perhaps greedy landlords will learn that they cannot charge exorbitant rents to fill their ugly, soulless shopping malls.
Business will bounce back.
Take this as an opportunity for a re-levelling - perhaps greedy landlords will learn that they cannot charge exorbitant rents to fill their ugly, soulless shopping malls.
There was ever decreasing demand for Bricks and Mortar shopping before covid. It will not bounce back until (as you say) rents and rates are realistic to compete with online business. If not, the high street and the localised jobs that go with it, are gone forever.
Actually, it is. If you look at countries with any sizeable population (over 20m) then the UK's death toll per 100k of population is the WORST IN THE WORLD. Only Italy comes close (badly affected in the first wave) and the USA (caused by a moronic president).
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
One in 600 people have died in the UK with Covid. And it ain't over yet by a long way.
Its very very simple and something HMG should have been doing for the last 50 years anyway. BUY BRITISH. Every single American fighter jet, German police car, Scandinavian fire engine or Korean naval support vessel represents money (demand) and jobs leaving the UK and never returning. With the demand lowering so do wages thus people taking up the skills we need. Leads to empty factories, shipyards
Web don't know yet what the result of Brexit will be as Covid has distorted everything. When over 40% of trucks are returning to mainland Europe empty then something is surely amiss, Also trade is currently greatly reduced within UK and therefore demand is low on all fronts, only partially made up with internet sales. If things turn out bad Levers will use Covid as reason for it.
Businesses and their v well paid execs can develop plans assuming various scenarios without the government, surely?
What plans would you like the giv to announce for 3 months time. ? Say Easter ?
Eg by Easter all pubs will be open.
Eh by June all airport travel will be allowed.
Is this what you think should be the sort of thing announced?
Eg by Easter all pubs will be open.
Eh by June all airport travel will be allowed.
Is this what you think should be the sort of thing announced?
I suggest you develop plans to deal with the Gov acting on a couple of days notice then.
MVS
The CBI got almost every one of its cataclysmic predictions over Brexit wrong.
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CBI just paid Price Waterhouse Coopers to produce a forecast. It's prediction of a cost of £100 billion looks like a gross underestimate.
The CBI got almost every one of its cataclysmic predictions over Brexit wrong.
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CBI just paid Price Waterhouse Coopers to produce a forecast. It's prediction of a cost of £100 billion looks like a gross underestimate.
No it is pure guesswork from PWC. Profitable for them though.
I am going to start making flags the trend of having ine flag is over, now you need at least 4
Good ship UK is heading towards prosperous business and trade waters.
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US
First month of 2021 has been very positive. It will be the first major western democracy out of covid restrictions, is in pole position with the US to be the world leader in vaccine supply and is applying to the Pacific trade partnership. That was the one Trump pulled out of, Biden will probably rejoin so trade deal with the US