Boris Johnson says independence debate 'irrelevant' to most Scots
28/01/2021 | news | uk | 14,052
Boris Johnson says most people in Scotland are focused on defeating Covid rather than another referendum.
give thistle knickers a slap whilst you're there. Removed
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If Scotland wants independence just hold the vote in England.
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Thanks for telling us what we can and can’t do.
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The world is always pleased when the English tell them what they can't do

Front page of the Sunday Times 1964 "Singapore Cant Go It Alone" A year later independent

The Times Editorial January 1959 "Malta cannot live on its own" Independent in 1964.

60 nations since WWII have become independent. Not one has asked to come back Independence is the natural state.
28/01/2021 14:03:22 4 10
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Don’t fall into the trap. The SNP (and their subdivisions masquerading as ‘independence movements’, like the Scottish Greens) are not an independence movement. They are in fact, a secessionist group, intent on hiving off as much of Scotland as they can carry with them to become a satrapy of the EU - or what might be left of it - at some undetermined future date.
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Boris out.
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He is...out and about in Scotland
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£££££££££ Hold on a wee minit....did he bring the wallet £££££££££££££
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NS will do her best to put herself and career before the good of the Scotland/UK
We need to stick together
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28/01/2021 10:43:16 817 943
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Normally I would agree, but I don't blame Scotland one bit for wanting to get away from this awful bunch of Tories.
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Boris will do his best to put himself before the good of the country, we need to get rid of him.
There, fixed it for you.
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Echoing Johnson.
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Sturgeon will attempt to feed her Ego again.
That's all she ever does
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28/01/2021 11:05:07 15 8
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You make her sound like Farage.... Only one of these actually got elected as member of the UK parliament. But both want/wanted sovereignty.
That's becoming pretty evident with the Alex Salmond fiasco. Removed
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28/01/2021 11:12:41 21 17
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"We need to stick together"

That's not what you righties said during the EU referendumb.

Changed your tune now eh?
28/01/2021 11:30:03 12 10
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Hilarious, what do you think Johnson has always done...put his career before anything else.
To be fair, she has thrown Salmond under the bus so shows she only looks after number one.

She wants to make Scotland great (again), nothing wrong with that.
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28/01/2021 11:42:10 11 9
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Johnson has made a whole career out of seperating from Unions. How can he complain when others want to? He is the true seperatist not NS.
28/01/2021 11:59:37 3 7
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So Tartan Trump, the queen of deflection, has done it again, got everyone focused on this instead of her administration’s appalling vaccine roll out.

Listen very carefully to “levers’ Kate’s budget announcement today, there is obviously something in it they are trying to hide!

#indyoverlives
28/01/2021 12:04:36 4 4
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Is that stick together in giving more vaccine per head of population to England than that of the rest of UK
28/01/2021 12:08:17 6 4
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I think you have overlooked the fact that Bojo ?? has only ever put himself 1st at the expense of everyone in the country. Pot... kettle!
28/01/2021 12:10:00 3 3
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No, frankly we don't. They have their parliaments, let them leave, and manage their own countries, sick to the death of hearing from them at the moment, all they sow is political discord. Give them what they want as soon as possible, and let England get on with managing itself.
28/01/2021 12:27:41 0 2
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No we don’t. And better we don’t.
28/01/2021 12:49:25 3 2
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Putting her career before the good of the country. Erm let me think who that reminds me of
28/01/2021 12:49:44 1 2
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Say that to the EU... Sticking together please yoons only care that they can't keep their little empire
28/01/2021 13:14:42 2 1
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behold your lord and master - Darth Johnson - BOW!
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The PM should have stayed in Downing Street. "Stay Home" is his mantra.

Scotland should quarantine him for 14 days then another 14 days quarantine when he returns to Downing Street. In a police station cell so he can't escape or communicate.
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Can we quarantine him for good?
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Or a fridge. He likes fridges.
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Hilarious seeing Naga frown at Gove on BBC Breakfast this morning "saying why can't Johnson do these visits over Zoom". I was praying for him to ask why the BBC sends reporters all over the place when the same reporting can be done from home or the studio!
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What can he say in Scotland that he can say from Zoom?
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28/01/2021 10:41:46 17 20
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He is adamant that shaking as many hands as possible is the only surefire way to get those ignorant Scots to change their mind on Scottish independence, or at least get rid of as many of them as possible.

It's a brilliant plan, if you think about it.
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Why do the media do any outside broadcasts at all at the moment? Why does Sturgeon appear in person at Holyrood?
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We do have TV in Scotland you know.
28/01/2021 11:37:45 5 1
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Damned if he doesn't visit Scotland ("doesn't care) damned if he does (unwelcome). Can't win for some.
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he can check his eyesight while he's there.
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No need, he's blind, otherwise he'd have noticed long ago that keeping digging won't get us out of the hole he's put us in.
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Send him home again to think again.
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28/01/2021 10:38:25 8 21
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Keep him there Nicola!
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28/01/2021 10:38:34 27 24
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If Sturgeon is in charge of the Scottish roll out, it is bound to be a disaster..
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28/01/2021 10:38:35 31 26
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Bad idea Boris. Meet via Zoom like everyone else and set an example. That said, its positively obscene the way the SNP wants to use this crisis to further their own agenda.
Even at a time like this, all they can think of is their narrow-minded nationalism. Let's just get through this first, shall we?
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28/01/2021 10:40:32 16 21
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Tell yer infected PM to get on his bike.
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All this does is give Nicola further ammunition to use for her separatist cause.

In internet slang terms, he is quite literally feeding the troll.
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28/01/2021 10:41:08 25 24
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'her separatist cause'

Independence?

The cause that around 20 consecutive polls suggest most of Scotland's people support?

Hardly 'hers', really, however hate-filled you may be towards our FM, is it?

It's Scotland's people's.
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In reality, HE is the troll.
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What will happen to all the English in Scotland after independence?
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Or indeed all the piles in England?
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28/01/2021 10:45:38 2 4
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The same that will happen to all the Scots in England (that number will increase if Ms Sturgeon has her way).....i.e. nothing!
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28/01/2021 10:46:19 1 1
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The same that would happen to all the Scots in England.
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The rest of the U.K. wouldn’t have to pay the extra money of the Barnet formula. Though they would morally have to give a percentage of assets divided by population. But by the same way Scotland would morally have to accept debt dividend the same way. This is only fair on not only England but Northern Ireland and Wales.
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28/01/2021 10:48:07 1 1
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Nothing!
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They can get Scottish nationality, without blue passports.
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28/01/2021 11:09:48 5 1
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It's an interesting question. IIRC around 10% of Scotland's population is English and 10% of England's Scottish.

I strongly suspect that Scots move down to mainly London to be economically active, versus retiring English moving up here to retire, particularly in rural areas. Could be entirely wrong about that as I've never seen any stats offering that breakdown.

Room for an amicable agreement
28/01/2021 15:54:01 3 1
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They will probably have a big piss up to celebrate freedom from thevTories.
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If Scotland wants independence just hold the vote in England.
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Thanks for telling us what we can and can’t do.
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28/01/2021 10:42:56 13 12
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No need to get your panties in a bunch. It was just a friendly suggestion.
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Let the E
28/01/2021 15:19:40 2 3
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Let the English vote & the SNP will get their wish!
28/01/2021 19:25:22 1 3
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let us all vote, you would get a landslide..bye
28/01/2021 21:10:19 1 0
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Please tell us what currency we intend to use from the outset in the event of separating from the United Kingdom? How long would it take before a small country like Scotland could be admitted into the EU as I am not sure whether we could join the Euro on day one after becoming independent? There are just so many questions that remain unanswered and the SNP don't seem capable of providing them.
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No Union, no Union money. Fine by me.
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Scotland is the 2nd largest regional net contributor to the Treasury after London & the South-East. Don't let facts cloud your ignorance.
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No vaccinations either.

As they'd be in the EU rollout programme...

After they've applied of course.

Which would take years.
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28/01/2021 10:47:54 52 83
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What net?

Don’t you mean no union, no union debt?

Fine by me!
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Of course, no one in Scotland pays taxes. Can't wait to see the rUK collapse.
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28/01/2021 11:12:35 23 32
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The main point I take is that Scotland's GDP per capita is on a par with the UK. England's is propped up quite heavily by the wealth inequality in London vs the rest even at the lower pay scale due to a higher living wage.

We spend a lot more on public services in SCO, some of them are SNP perks that obviously cost.

Main issue is currency and UK assets/debt which WM keep schtum about.
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28/01/2021 11:14:03 23 7
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Let then pay to setup their own currency - the thistle - and equivalents to : police, DVLA, Passports, army, navy, airforce, NHS, HMRC, BBC, highways, railways, etc etc. and then Scots living south of the border will have to apply for residency or move back to Nicoland.
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28/01/2021 11:14:15 6 10
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Also worth mentioning the wealthier parts of ENG pay around 40-50% of their income on a mortgage. That's money not spent on VAT rated goods or in any way contributing to public funds.

In SCO it's ~20% average for a mortgage. That alone accounts for about 6K of income. Unless Scots are hoarding 10s of thousands in their bank account, that money is being spent on VAT rated goods.
28/01/2021 11:23:35 7 36
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Where do you imagine the "Union money" you describe comes from? Scotland pays in more than it receives back. No amount of Fudged GERs figures can hide that.
28/01/2021 11:28:06 6 2
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Another Nationalist. Chickens always come home to roost.
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gnorant comment
28/01/2021 12:09:10 1 7
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Out of the union and no Money from Scotland for the union, fine by me
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28/01/2021 12:17:13 11 0
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I agree, Scotland go independent you will not get any money from England, and as with EU/Brexit Scotland will need to pay a Divorce Bill
28/01/2021 12:17:50 3 5
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Suits us. We’ll obviously be charging market rates for water & electricity.
28/01/2021 12:19:11 7 0
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And it would be only fair if we granted Shetland a referendum on their own independence from Scotland
28/01/2021 12:29:24 0 5
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And no Britain fantastic
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28/01/2021 10:39:10 35 27
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Yet more photo ops for Boris. This time he doesn't have to wear a hard hat. This is nothing more than political grandstanding. He could have made his statement from London. No need for him and his sizeable entourage to travel during the pandemic. Stay at home Boris and get on with the day job.
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What are the odds on a Union flag mask?
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Not essential!
The man couldn't even repect the rules the first time around and has already caught and spread the virus just by being a bumbling clown.

Bad idea, lead by example!
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28/01/2021 11:00:10 11 5
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If leading by example is lying, and being incompetent, I don't recommend following.
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28/01/2021 10:39:22 31 28
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How can a trip from London to Scotland possibly be an "essential journey".

The prime minister should be setting an example and staying (at) home.
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It's work; he is the PM of the UK. Scotland is part of it. The PM should be seen out and about doing his job not cowering away in London.
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28/01/2021 10:49:30 6 7
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Are you that silly? This is the PM of the United Kingdom. Scotland is part of the United Kingdom. Visits north have been very, very limited but it's very important that Boris come north to visibly show that NS is not the only option here. We should welcome his visit.
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28/01/2021 10:39:32 23 27
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If they want independence, let them have it but make it a hard border, move infrastructures back South, they pay compensation for what remains and let them use the Scottish Pound. I for one am sick and tired of the whining from up North. Good riddance!
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Me too and I live in Scotland, don't forgot not everyone wants independence
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The Scots are great (I'm English). It would be a great pity to see them leave the UK.
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28/01/2021 10:46:51 4 6
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It’s the U.K. pound!

This is a union of nations!

Thanks for your little rant I’m sure Scots folk will be pleased to see how valued we are in the union!
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"Scottish pound"?
we can use the pound as much as we like - its not an English pound.
oh, hows Brexit working out?
lol...
28/01/2021 11:03:38 3 3
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Try having a Tory government forced on you that have shown time and time again what they think about the people of Scotland for the last 50 years.

People should remember if it wasn’t for Scottish government you would be paying for your higher education and prescriptions, bedroom tax.... the list really does go on!
If SG wasn’t mitigating Tory policies, They could focus more on improving life!
28/01/2021 11:46:04 1 1
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How much whining do you get from up north down south? Do you really need to call it whining just because you don't like it.
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The PM should have stayed in Downing Street. "Stay Home" is his mantra.

Scotland should quarantine him for 14 days then another 14 days quarantine when he returns to Downing Street. In a police station cell so he can't escape or communicate.
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Can we quarantine him for good?
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Just give the scots the unvarnished truth about independence and not a load of SNP claptrap and let them decide
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Agree, but try getting anyone to have a rational discussion on it is a challenge
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Equally applies to Brexit.
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Worked on you and Brexit eh?
now look at you..
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The SNP are cut from the same cloth as Trump and know that truth just isn't that important any more.
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Like with Brexit you mean?
They are Scottish, Telling them the truth may not work. Removed
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That just gets labelled "project fear" and ignored by the ignorant.
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Stop supporting Tory Oligarchy.
‘Rational discussion ‘ like Grenfell I suppose. Removed
28/01/2021 11:26:25 4 2
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They do not think its claptrap and they live there.
28/01/2021 11:27:16 10 12
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A bit like the polished t*rd we got about £350m a week more for the NHS, the better deal for fisherman by taking back our own waters (in another 5 or 10 years times), taking control of our borders when 10 months after lockdown, we still can't decide how to manage them in a pandemic, let alone any other day of the week - night of the long knives here we come when Bojo resigns.....
28/01/2021 11:33:25 10 2
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Indeed, we've just gone though one messy divorce that pales into insignificance compared to what that divorce would be like.
28/01/2021 11:36:53 10 3
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Like a hard border. No soft option as in Ireland. The Brexit vote means proper border checks and limited points of entry (as in USA/Canada and at Dover or Eurostar. Free travel north to south will have to end.
"Just give the scots the unvarnished truth"

If you want to give anyone the truth, the last person in the world you send is Boris Johnson.

In a game of word association, if someone says "Boris" the only two replies are "clown" or "liar".
28/01/2021 11:49:12 6 2
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Come on then, give us the unvarnished truth, please? I mean unvarnished, not your version of it.
28/01/2021 11:35:57 8 6
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The unvarnished truth? Are you implying that the message put about by Unionists the last time was nothing but a load of fear mongering? which seems to be the base line for any Unionist strategy. All the nations in this world that stand by themselves from the big to the small but apparently we are the only one that would be useless on its own. Remarkable.
28/01/2021 11:57:02 4 0
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They did, they lost!
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Ask who messed up their fishing rights? Haha, the English.
28/01/2021 12:03:23 4 2
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Yeah let’s listen to the English Tories. Way to go
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yooooonnnnnnnsssssss

lIKE YOU NEED TO SEE ONCE WE LEAVE THIS UNION WE WILL SEE

LOWER TAXES
HIGHER SPENDING
ZERO BORROWING
A HIGHER PENSION
RETIREMENT AT 55
FREE EDUCATION
FREE PUBIC TRANSPORT
FREE NHS
4 DAY WORK WEEK
UBI
MININUM WAGE OF £30 A HOUR

AND YOU CAN'T SAY OTHERWISE
28/01/2021 12:06:58 2 2
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Let them have their referendum, quite happy to let them and all of their oil wealth go. We already have a wall thanks to Hadrian, just add another 6 feet and forget about them...
28/01/2021 12:11:49 7 2
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The Scots want to take back control be in charge of there border and don't want to be dictated by unelected burocrats from London
28/01/2021 12:39:12 2 0
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Go on, you have 400 characters to tell your "unvarnished" truth - why waste this opportunity?
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28/01/2021 12:56:31 3 2
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Didn't that happen last time, and they agreed to stay in large numbers, good for them. But with Nicola it seems says they'll keep voting once a year till they get what she wants..........?
28/01/2021 13:14:23 1 1
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behold your lord and master - Darth Johnson - BOW!
28/01/2021 13:17:36 3 2
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Let them leave completely. No further funding from England. Let's see how they cope when the British tax payer is not funding their free prescriptions and university places
28/01/2021 13:17:43 4 0
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The "unvarnished truth" about independence is ironically the same argument us reasonable people used for remaining in the EU.

Of course Scotland can survive as an independent country, but its economy will not grow as much as if it remains in the union. Precisely the same applies to us leaving the EU.
28/01/2021 13:21:43 5 1
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Just like give the unvarnished truth about the economic and business damage about Brexit. Double standards.
28/01/2021 13:17:02 5 2
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Yeah. Shame we didn't do that with the UK electorate about the EU referendum, don't you think?
28/01/2021 13:31:43 3 1
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Telling the British people the truth about Brexit didn't help much.
28/01/2021 14:16:05 3 3
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Like last time you mean?

Better together, AND the only way to remain in the EU?

Eventually there will be consequences for lying about literally everything and that is going to bite the Tories now.

The propaganda and bot activity here is astounding.

Indy2 is going to happen as the population want it and yet look at the commentary, if you want to call it that.

And still desperate to keep us....
28/01/2021 14:21:22 3 2
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...or indeed unionist lies and scare stories. The unionists have not been able to provide a single real benefit of the union that would not be possible under independence. Getting away from the corruption at Westminster is just the start and rejoining the EU as the beginning of Scotland having its own place at the table with other nations.
28/01/2021 14:28:32 1 2
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we have decided in 2014 thanks very much !!
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Sturgeon will do her upmost to ensure her demands/power grab are put before the good people of Scotland
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Indeed, the UK Prime Minster visiting an important part of the UK doesn't do her anti-UK, pro-independence dialogue any favours.
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She is one of the biggest, if not the biggest politician who's wish is to further herself before the people she is supposed to represent
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SNP won a majority in Scotland... I'll leave you to work out why.
28/01/2021 13:19:08 1 0
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behold your lord and master D move - Darth Johnson - BOW!
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Power grab? I’m pretty sure that it’s Westminster that is grabbing powers from Scotland
28/01/2021 15:59:06 0 0
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She, and her husband and acolytes even threw her mentor, 'Fat Alec', under a bus to clear her path.
28/01/2021 17:06:12 1 0
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of course, if the people of Scotland return Sturgeon and the SNP with an increased majority based on an IndyRef ticket, then the electorate will have given the SNP a mandate to hold another referendum. you can't deny the will of the people!
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And will fail to do what she says she wants to do as the referendum will not be legal and thus has to be funded by the Scottish devolved administration. Remember those words "Devolved Administration" Not a Parliament!!
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Boris is Prime Minister of the UK, which includes Scotland. He should be visiting, it's part of his remit.

While he is there he should tell Nicola to get a grip with the vaccine rollout.
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28/01/2021 10:47:37 732 1667
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He should wait to be invited - he may be PM of the UK, he's not the FM of Scotland. On the other hand, a visit by the Clown will only further the desire for Scottish Independence, so thank you very much.
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Visiting is not a valid reason for travel..
Boris's own rules...
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The only essential journey Bojo should be making is to Buckingham Palace to resign.

He could even go on his bike.
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And everyone else in he UK can travel where they want. Good idea..
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He should also explain where the promised £350M extra per week for the NHS is
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Non essential travel from our PM is just another "do as I say, not as I do" moment from our "glorious leader".
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"Boris" - do you know him personally ? UK PM or Johnson will do.
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Surely she joined the EU vaccine system?

That went well didn't it?
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He doesn't need to visit anywhere. STAY AT HOME!
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The powrr is devolved, better if he kept his Pinoccio out of it.
Since the clown has taken full responsbility for managing Covid I assume he will be shortly charged with culpable murder and imprisioned for the rest of his life? Removed
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It would be OK if he actually did something useful whilst there - but why would he do that as he is incapable of doing that at any other time.
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28/01/2021 11:16:34 9 11
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Not just the vaccine rollout. He needs to get a grip with everything.
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Johnson has a ‘grip’ with 100,000 people ,what!,
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28/01/2021 11:18:28 20 12
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The PM needs to realise that although his party has complete control, only a minority of the electorate voted for them. Other parties like the SNP have absolutely no political influence whatsoever. No wonder the Scots want to take back control.
....and when he gets back, he should maybe get to grips with his mass-murdering programme that him and his party seem to be running quite smoothly of their own accord. Removed
28/01/2021 11:23:27 9 5
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I'll fix your first sentence:

Boris is Prime Minister of the UK which is no longer in the EU, which includes Scotland which is also no longer in the EU even though it didn't want to leave..
28/01/2021 11:25:40 10 10
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Johnson's trip to Scotland will increase clamour for independence. So unpopular. Even 66 per cent in recent poll said he should resign. I suppose you are not one of them.
28/01/2021 11:26:27 11 8
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He should be setting an example and staying at home. We have TVs and radios. He can speak to everyone
through that. All he's doing at the moment is demonstrating one rule for them and another for us.
28/01/2021 11:28:57 13 9
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The last person anyone should take advice from is the bumbling excuse for a PM .
28/01/2021 11:31:03 10 9
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Please please keep coming up to Scotland Boris.....the gift that keeps giving....every visit adds even more votes for the SNP....but not very bright Unionists don’t seem to get the message....thankfully.
28/01/2021 11:39:55 12 6
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At the minute - when the government is telling us all to work from home - he should be following his own advice and doing precisely that, rather than gallivanting around the country.
Nio
28/01/2021 11:40:42 9 2
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When it suits him.....normally he cant be bothered with Scotland - or the North of England - Wales and the North of Ireland.....
28/01/2021 11:20:26 5 5
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Not for long for more than one reason
28/01/2021 11:42:35 8 4
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but he shouldn't be visiting during a pandemic!
28/01/2021 11:20:34 7 6
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He may be entitled to visit but will never be welcomed.
28/01/2021 11:49:19 4 2
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He might try allocating some vaccination first!
28/01/2021 11:52:52 9 6
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I must have missed the part where England have effectively fought the virus. This is an unnecessary journey from a despised Prime Minister.

"Scotland unable to fight Covid-19 as effectively without England, Boris Johnson to claim on visit."
NM
28/01/2021 11:53:52 9 3
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I don't think that people understand just how much of a gift to the Nats he is.

Regarding the trip during a pandemic, he really doesn't get it.
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28/01/2021 10:40:04 2371 1050
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Sturgeon needs to realise that she is the leader of a devolved assembly, not the Queen of Scotland. The Prime Minister of the UK has a perfectly legitimate and justified reason to visit all parts of the UK.

Work with him, Sturgeon, stop fighting. We're in the middle of a pandemic, did you know?
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28/01/2021 10:44:06 270 449
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Just giving the Chaotic One a taste of what's to come.
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28/01/2021 10:45:18 211 248
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Whats that "perfectly legitimate and justified reason"? - Does it say? perhaps its to test his eyesight or the state of the Union?, both very nebulous things.
"Hello constable my reason for travel is to bolster the union"

Nah....£80 fine..
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28/01/2021 10:48:38 286 144
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Couldn't agree more. Just seems to me everytime you see her in the news, she is creating some kind of anti-English trouble.
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28/01/2021 10:49:22 224 240
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She's well within her purview to say his visit is non essential (which it is) and he should stay away.
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28/01/2021 10:50:35 95 174
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Would not welcome him to the Fens, so quite understand little Nickys stance.
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28/01/2021 10:51:22 190 116
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Is Johnson's visit essential ? Could he work from home ?

I'm English so I don't much care for what Sturgeon has to say but I'm also sick and tired of the do as I say not as I do attitude of Boris and his chums.
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28/01/2021 10:52:09 32 55
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Tell bozo! He is the one trying to circumvent devolution.
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28/01/2021 10:43:48 52 33
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What part of Non-Essential Travel" is it you don't understand?
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28/01/2021 10:52:41 80 48
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True colours time for Sturgeon, Obsessed with independence ( in name only ) if she got her wish it would be in name only due to having to go begging to EU for funding with fiscal spending being ruled by European banks (Germany) hopefully Scottish voters will realise the consequences !!!
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28/01/2021 10:52:54 66 30
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Your user name is the site of a famous English victory over the Scots. His trip is a PR exercise. You are a troll. Do I win £5?
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28/01/2021 10:56:58 57 27
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His reason is political.
Better he got on with his day job, sorting out his covid mess.
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28/01/2021 10:57:27 46 37
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Trouble is Boris works with no one he has a big majority in parliament & does not listen to anyone other than his backbenchers, that's why we have the worst death rates in the world from COVID
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28/01/2021 10:57:55 42 48
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He's the PM, not a model or factory inspector.
Whatever he has to go and see he can see via Zoom. No need to physically be their while 100,000 people have died, people are losing their jobs and losing their businesses.

I don't see our head of state trotting the globe. But guess she hasn't got an election to win, so no photoshoot needed.
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28/01/2021 10:57:56 81 54
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As a non-SNP voting Englishman in Scotland I can tell you that given a choice between Sturgeon and Johnson, she wins hands down. He has bluffed his way through this making one bad decision after another. If Sturgeon had been able to do it her way - following the example of New Zealand - we'd have been single figure cases by now but no - Boris blunders on putting Brexit before health.
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28/01/2021 11:01:10 29 24
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Corona virus would have been a complete disaster for an independent Scotland.
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28/01/2021 11:02:25 28 14
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I believe Boris has every right to visit as PM.

Whilst Brexit is a reason for Independence support growing, I believe the vitriol directed at the SNP and NS, by a group of far right Unionists and those of a sectarian persuasion is also a factor.

The majority of people in Scotland are fed up of sectarianism, and this coupled with Brexit and the Boris factor is driving people towards independence.
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28/01/2021 11:04:27 25 9
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I agree they should work together but how when what johnson says changes every few minutes. As we are in the middle of a pandemic why is he and his entourage travelling anywhere?
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28/01/2021 11:05:54 21 10
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Johnson should act as if he is a prime minister of devolved assemblies . Rather than defensive bleating on about stronger together blah bla, he should make clear that he wants to work with Wales, Scotland, NI and explore the best ways of supporting them , how best to support growth etc instead of which he and his likes seem more interested in sniping from Westminster and over the Despatch box
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28/01/2021 11:06:27 23 11
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Johnson's visit will simply add to the support for independence, just as Cameron's visit did the last time. The Brexit vote boiled down to a popularity contest between Cameron and Johnson. Johnson won that one but I cannot see him beating Nicola in Scotland
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28/01/2021 11:06:29 16 24
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If Scotland goes independent she will proclaim herself as Queen.
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28/01/2021 11:06:45 29 25
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She's criticising him for going - yet if he didn't; she'd also find a way of criticising him for that too - saying he's ignoring Scotland and using it as ammunition to further her separatist agenda.

It's the nature of the beast.
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28/01/2021 11:08:33 24 11
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I don't think she believes she is queen of Scotland... but you say work with Boris... she has made many attempts and every one of them have been rejected. Bojo has attempted to ridicule Scotland in many ways and goads Scottish people and MP's. He ignores Scotland as if he were King of the UK. ??

So tell Bojo to work with Nicola - its a 2 way street.
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28/01/2021 11:13:43 19 6
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And Boris needs to realise that he is responsible for the surge in support for Scottish independence
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28/01/2021 11:16:57 15 6
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The PM needs to realise that although his party has complete control, only a minority of the electorate voted for them. Other parties like the SNP have absolutely no political influence whatsoever. No wonder the Scots want to take back control.
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28/01/2021 11:17:03 9 5
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Is that what Boris is doing? Ignoring united approach to show support for unity? Bit like killing someone to show you love them.
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28/01/2021 11:20:11 5 6
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Let's just hope the Scottish government release details of the border soon - would be hilarious if it's a huge wall, but most importantly, how it will manned considering they want to be part of the EU.

Interesting times ahead.
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28/01/2021 11:20:55 13 5
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No he doesn't. As you say, we are in the middle of a pandemic, but the man has no idea of acting responsibly as you clearly don't either.
28/01/2021 11:22:20 16 7
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The PM has a responsibility to set an example and not engage in non-essential travel. His being there is not essential, unless getting a phot opportunity for the PM is essential. I think not.
28/01/2021 11:22:34 13 5
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Rules for some, rules for others. Cummings affair proved that. Johnson just after publicity, knowing media will be following him. There for no other reason.
28/01/2021 11:23:45 4 1
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Devolved government*
28/01/2021 11:24:15 6 3
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I'm sure we could all pick at some of Nicola's travel that we would "Deem" as un-essential if we were being picky.
28/01/2021 11:26:07 14 4
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What is the essential justification you claim for Johnson that nobody else has? Doesn't they have Wifi at No 10?
28/01/2021 11:26:58 14 2
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He has the right to visit any part of the UK but not when there is a pandemic on and he has shown to be inept when it comes to containing it.
28/01/2021 11:27:30 17 3
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If he’s done anywhere near a competent job and showed some humility it might be different but boasting he shook hands with Covid patients and saying ‘take it on the chin’. He is totally incompetent and definately not welcome is Scotland where Nicola Sturgeon is doing the job of a real leader and has the support of the vast majority or Scotland.
28/01/2021 11:27:53 14 3
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Johnson needs to know exactly what the people of Scotland feel about him, pity the rest of the UK don't do the same. The man is the most incompetent PM of all time, as well as a serial liar. Let him have a walkabout...and get the abuse he deserves.
28/01/2021 11:29:20 9 2
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She already does. The pandemic response is UK based as is the vaccine rollout. You would find this out if you did not read the far right wing tabloids.
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28/01/2021 10:38:09 29 24
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he can check his eyesight while he's there.
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28/01/2021 10:40:04 18 18
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No need, he's blind, otherwise he'd have noticed long ago that keeping digging won't get us out of the hole he's put us in.
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28/01/2021 10:40:12 669 270
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Boris, please tell her No, No, No and No.

Tell her to get on with the day job instead of grandstanding on the tv each day.
Ask her how she is going to administer the vaccine as well its being done in rUK.
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28/01/2021 10:47:35 230 383
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lol, She will have to spell "No" for him.
Do you mean she should hide every day like Boris?
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28/01/2021 10:55:10 8 6
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He can do that from No10!
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28/01/2021 10:55:55 1 4
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She is in ghe UK still.
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28/01/2021 11:15:35 13 10
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Comments like these make it clear why Scotland wants to leave the Union.
The British PM can do as he pleases but the elected leader of the Scottish parliament should shut up and sit down?

Seems people just have a problem with women in authority.
28/01/2021 11:23:19 9 4
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Who does Johnson represent? His party may have complete control in Parliament, but only a minority of the electorate voted for them. Other parties like the SNP have absolutely no political influence whatsoever. No wonder the Scots want to take back control.
28/01/2021 11:29:59 5 3
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Rubbish. Her leadership makes Johnson look childish.
28/01/2021 11:31:47 3 3
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First of two jabs don't forget - this isn't & won't be over until the autumn - headline numbers are great & give a confidence boost but it's a long haul - at least NS rocks up on TV, well presented, articulate, professional with a signing interpreter - we get the 'just out of the hedge' look, bumbling, stuttering & incoherent - I'm amazed he can remember more than 3 things at a time
28/01/2021 11:48:21 5 1
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She is getting on with the day job, that's why I voted SNP and why I will again. Scotland needs to move forward rather than clinging on to the coattails of the Bollington club members.
28/01/2021 11:59:28 1 1
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You mean ignore the most vulnerable in care homes instead of following expert advice like Bojo
28/01/2021 12:11:05 1 2
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She is getting on with the day job, but you Yoons are too blind to see that
28/01/2021 12:22:33 2 2
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Another democracy denier. This has nothing to do with her. The party will put in what they plan to do in the manifesto. People will vote. The party that wins then has a mandate to deliver. Is that simple enough for you?
28/01/2021 12:33:22 2 0
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That's just another SNP failure. Sooner or later they need to be taken to task, as they cannot continue to get away with mismanagement of the NHS, Schools, Local Authority, Economy and so on, just by making lots of diversionary 'noise' around their one-dimensional mission. The electorate need to dispense with the SNP for good!
28/01/2021 12:48:26 2 0
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Hah! As well as it's being done in rest of rUK???
As someone living there and involved in it, I can tell you it is utter chaos, despite what the media are reporting!
28/01/2021 13:18:44 0 1
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behold your lord and master Andy - Darth Johnson - BOW! Take the knee !
28/01/2021 13:44:36 0 0
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Prime Minister, stay at home, save lives.
28/01/2021 14:00:01 2 0
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Taking a trip to a hospital get some TV coverage is what exactly?
28/01/2021 14:27:44 0 1
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Perhaps Boris should get on with the real work.
28/01/2021 14:38:54 0 1
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Not his place or right dot deny the people of Scotland a referendum or Independence. Another mandate in May must be respected this time.
28/01/2021 15:48:16 0 0
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Ask her how she is going to administer the vaccine as well its being done in rUK.
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In this part of the country south of the border, we're still a long way from meetimg the Feb 15th target for the 4 top priority groups. So, not so great everywhere.
28/01/2021 16:21:48 0 0
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In May the Scottish people will tell boris no no no

Goodbye Scottish tory party
28/01/2021 17:16:37 0 0
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Sorry Andrew.
BoJo didn't get your message he was grandstanding on the tv all day.
I hope the scales fall from your eyes soon.
28/01/2021 17:02:21 0 0
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Does anybody watch "The Nicola Sturgeon Show" anymore?
28/01/2021 17:31:56 0 0
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oh so we have to ask our English colonial master for permission that attitude has prevailed for centuries and she is gettinon with the job better than bumbling toff Johnson does hat go for the likes of hancock or Johnson when they are grandstanding the tv every day double standards
28/01/2021 18:28:20 0 0
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Yes and yes and yes to your comment
28/01/2021 19:06:41 0 0
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Also tell the media to make a bit of an effort to reveal her true colours
28/01/2021 19:12:36 0 0
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Isn't being on TV every day actually her day job Andrew?
After all she is personally giving a C19 update each day.
She would probably just administer the vaccine in exactly the same way as she will have been involved in the planning.
Is that neck vein pulsating yet?
28/01/2021 19:39:08 0 0
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I agree with you those daily appearances are Making Jonson look like an idiot great and show what a great leader Nicola Sturgeon is.
28/01/2021 22:15:45 0 0
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I don’t think Boris reads the HYS comments, Andrew :lol:
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28/01/2021 10:40:12 18 24
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Johnson has proven himself to be utterly incompetent hence the reason Scotland and Wales want to distance themselves from him for the sake of Scottish and Welsh people.
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28/01/2021 11:05:33 4 6
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It’s very easy to sit on the sidelines and criticise. Boris is very intelligent not incompetent. I wonder how others would have dealt with Brexit, the Pandemic and being critically ill? It would be more sense to work with the government for the good of the country, instead of adopting such negative attitudes towards everything they do
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28/01/2021 10:40:26 741 254
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If Scotland was in the EU (and the rest of the UK for that matter) …. the EU would demand and take your Vaccines.

Madrid have not got any Vaccines at all and this is a badly affected City.

The EU is slow and cumbersome ….
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28/01/2021 10:54:15 442 711
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Another one believing the tory gutter press.
well done.
The EU did not "demand and take" any UK vaccines.
The UK govt actually restricted shipping of the Oxford vaccine to the EU because the UKs order of the Pfizer vaccine was affected by production issues.
The UK actually did what it is accusing the EU of doing,
but dont let the truth get in the way of a good frothing.
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28/01/2021 10:56:56 42 63
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Written evidence. The EU gave grants to AstraZeneca towards the production plants for the vaccine. All they are asking is for AstraZeneca to stick to their side of the contract.
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28/01/2021 10:57:39 44 89
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Thanks for your anti-EU propaganda. What about all the benefits, all the investments in farming, universities and other projects that will no longer receive funding, banking protections and the employment and environmental laws that are now being ripped up by Westminster, so they can line their pockets with their business chums backhanders 5 mins after us leaving?
RC
28/01/2021 11:28:37 28 62
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The fact the EU want transparency and want the contract published would suggest they have nothing to hide here. They funded the production plants and were contractually promised supply. AstraZeneca (and possibly the UK) appear on the face of the reports to be on very suspect ground both ethically and contractually.
28/01/2021 11:32:05 35 52
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EU only asking for what it has paid for. Try telling me that is wrong. You would be singing from a different hymn sheet if the boot was on the other foot.
28/01/2021 12:09:28 10 2
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Stop lying. Every country in the EU was free to follow their own vaccine policy. They chose to act together, but it was just that, a choice. Moreover vaccine supply is down to commercial agreements, nothing more.
28/01/2021 12:22:15 2 0
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They took our jabs...
28/01/2021 12:37:46 6 0
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Don't worry about that - there's no prospect of an independent Scotland ever qualifying for EU membership.
Which means that in the event of a future pandemic, without the backing of either the UK or the EU, we'd be in the same queue for vaccines as those third-world nations left waiting until everyone else has had their vaccines.
28/01/2021 12:50:53 1 0
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Utter tripw
28/01/2021 13:11:28 1 5
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If Scotland was in the EU, their fish would not be rotting on the docks, they small businesses would not be buried in red tape...... Boris sold out on NI and Scotland ..
28/01/2021 15:30:07 0 0
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I expect Berlin is OK though
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28/01/2021 10:38:35 31 26
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Bad idea Boris. Meet via Zoom like everyone else and set an example. That said, its positively obscene the way the SNP wants to use this crisis to further their own agenda.
Even at a time like this, all they can think of is their narrow-minded nationalism. Let's just get through this first, shall we?
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28/01/2021 10:40:32 16 21
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Tell yer infected PM to get on his bike.
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28/01/2021 10:40:32 55 48
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Stay at Home. Save Lives. Protect the NHS.

Non-essential travel.

Johnson's obedient mates in the press will give him all the visibility (and outfits) he needs, so he shouldn't be shuttling around the country with his entourage and the media.

But, as ever, there's one rule for us and another for politicians.
28/01/2021 11:32:46 18 4
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It's not a day trip to Bournemouth, or a rave, or a holiday abroad. It's part of his job to do this.
28/01/2021 12:15:29 0 1
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It’s his job., he is PM of the whole U.K. He has a right to travel wherever he likes in the U.K.
28/01/2021 12:06:26 0 0
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Of course their is a ‘different rule’ for the Prime minister of the United Kingdom when it comes to his work otherwise he couldn’t do his job, Lord help us !
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28/01/2021 10:40:34 23 15
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What an embarrassment.
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28/01/2021 10:40:36 1635 215
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I'm sure he'll be as welcome as a fart in a space suit. However just like at the 2014 Scottish referendum, the SNP are not telling the population how they would get around trading under the EU trade agreement with their neighbour whom 60% of the exports go to.
Independence is fine, but have a open and honest debate about it, not jingoism.
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28/01/2021 10:51:07 1369 349
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The media are utterly complicit in pedling this as well. SNP and Sturgeon in particular are not challenged at all compared to Westminster. Wonder why?
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28/01/2021 10:51:52 151 41
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This comment is spot on. You wouldn't blame England for closing the door, sending a big bill, and throwing away the key if the politics from an Independent Scotland are played at Nicola's level - she should be careful what she wishes for!
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28/01/2021 10:53:28 69 107
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I presume they would do it the same way as the Vote Leave bunch did in the referendum ... lie!
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28/01/2021 10:54:32 15 17
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Which Indyref2 would do.
I'm pretty sure the EU would invite Scotland in the moment it gained independence, if only to stick it up to the little englanders.

And before anyone goes on, and on, and on about Spain and Catalonia; there is no comparison.
Removed
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28/01/2021 11:10:53 104 17
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We have just seen how long and complicated it is when a country leaves a trading block it's been in for 40 odd years. Now imaging splitting up a 300 year relationship. In the long term they could make a success of it, but my god the SNP need to start being honest and layout lots of detail. I have been trying to have a look myself, but am struggling to find any answers.. imaging my surprise.
28/01/2021 11:30:44 26 4
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Added to that what Currency?
28/01/2021 11:35:18 10 18
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If only that could apply to all sides in an argument I'd agree wholeheartedly but it won't and the lies will flow from south of the border just like they did the last time.
28/01/2021 11:43:03 8 16
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SNP aren’t campaigning yet, and there isn’t a date for a Ref. SNP are doing Covid. Boris is up here doing politics today.
28/01/2021 11:49:34 1 1
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Honesty is a vile word in politics.
28/01/2021 11:53:26 10 4
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Also no explanation of how Scotland will repay its part of the UK National Debt (£500b) and what to do about all the returning Scots who will lose their UK status. Then there will be the loss of jobs as Westminster pull investment from Scotland.
SNP needs to get real.
28/01/2021 11:53:31 5 0
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like was done with Brexit? (sarcasm)
28/01/2021 12:02:04 0 1
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BANNOCKBURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
28/01/2021 12:23:57 4 1
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Just taking back control
28/01/2021 12:25:08 5 3
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Myth. The majority of said exports pass through England en route to further destinations. Stop peddling nonsense and have the “honest debate” you crave.
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28/01/2021 10:40:37 737 196
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Time we stood up to the SNP. More people vote for Union backing parties in Scotland, the SNP take more seats because pro-Union vote is split. The Union isn't perfect but Sturgeon's Indy-at-all-costs approach is suicidal.
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28/01/2021 10:42:05 185 293
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Yes let’s sort that with an Indyref
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28/01/2021 10:43:36 30 23
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More people voted for Non-Tory parties at the last GE, but our antiquated system meant they got an 80 seat majority! And look at the mess we're in!??
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28/01/2021 10:44:30 18 36
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As opposed the the 100,000 dead, mainly due to Tory incompetance - I would take my chances elsewhere if given the choice...
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28/01/2021 10:50:10 25 22
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Let's apply that to UK 2019 election where votes for parties offering a second Brexit referendum outweighed Tories and UKIP, no? At least we have a proportional system up here unlike the anti-democratic mess that is FPTP.
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28/01/2021 11:01:54 17 15
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It is time we stood up to the tories. More people vote for parties that aren't the tories but the non tory vote is split.. etc.
28/01/2021 11:29:01 13 21
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SNP won, you lost, get over it.
If you voted for this hugely damaging Brexit then you caused the eventual break up of the UK
28/01/2021 11:46:30 8 8
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I'm English and I do not want to live under this regime any more. No doubt your reaction will be don't and that is what I am doing from here on in. Good luck with Johnson and brexit. Time will tell you'll need it. And no I am not a leftie.
28/01/2021 11:56:05 7 1
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True, what will Scotland do when they receive no Barnet formula subsidy? How will they defend their country with no British armed forces? How will they get on with a central bank that is penniless and no currency of its own? How will it afford to pay back its share of our stupefyingly massive national debt? I care less and less wether Scotland stays or not but I don’t wish it economic oblivion.
28/01/2021 12:35:48 6 2
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Well said - SNP will only continue to lead Scotland rapidly to the bottom.
28/01/2021 12:22:42 2 0
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Well said!!
28/01/2021 12:50:54 1 0
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And who, precisely, will you vote for. Name and party please.
28/01/2021 13:07:46 4 2
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When you say 'we', do you mean the small minority who still can't now see that independence is the only way forward?

"Voting NO is the only way to guarantee that Scotland stays in the EU" they said.

We will remember that for a long time.
MrT
28/01/2021 13:37:16 1 0
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Common sense at last
28/01/2021 14:06:28 0 1
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Your grasp of facts is frighteningly poor. Are you related to Donald Trump perhaps?
28/01/2021 15:05:49 0 0
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Keep taking whatever pills you are on. Have you actually looked at the election results?
28/01/2021 15:46:35 0 0
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Well said. I do think the political system in the UK needs to change with more devolved powers but we still have a united government. Maybe that way Scotland will get the opportunity to be led by people who want to do what’s best for the country, rather than led by someone who is driven by their own personal hatred of the English.
28/01/2021 16:14:52 0 0
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RMCL - there is an election coming up. If the unionist supporting parties win that then there will be no referendum - simple. Bring it on.
28/01/2021 16:20:39 0 0
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Go ahead stand up to them, the more you do, the quick scotland will become independant you you english! Let you stew in your own mess
28/01/2021 17:03:21 0 1
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Time we stood up to the tories. More people voted for other parties in the UK but the tories took more seats because FPTP is anything but democratic. The Union isn't perfect but johnson's arrogant english exceptionalism approach is suicidal.
28/01/2021 17:13:18 0 0
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Only because of the proportional voting system otherwise the snp would have a huge majority.
28/01/2021 18:26:08 0 0
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I only know one Snp supporter. Open the pubs and no-one cares.
28/01/2021 18:41:05 0 0
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On that basis Brexit should be reversed and this issue goes away
28/01/2021 19:06:50 1 1
bbc
Indy is not the SNP and the SNP is not Indy. Indy is a democratic choice for the Scottish people. Successive polls show thats what the majority want.
28/01/2021 19:10:29 0 0
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Who are 'we' , Kemo Sahbe? Another ref should sort it out.
Talking about split votes, if we had PR, the Tories would not be in power.
FLT
28/01/2021 19:14:22 0 0
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"the SNP take more seats because pro-Union vote is split"

If that were actually true then the SNP wouldn't currently have more seats in Holyrood than Tories/Labour/Lib-Dems combined...
28/01/2021 19:21:04 0 0
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That's not true though is it. For the last year or so the SNP have been polling at 51%-55%, sometimes higher. Unionists and facts just don't get on do they? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2021_Scottish_Parliament_election
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28/01/2021 10:40:44 432 103
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Unbelievable that focus is on independence when country is falling to bits, education a shambles , get a grip on yourselves and argue the case when we are in a much better state
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28/01/2021 10:43:47 172 361
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the only time we will be in a better state is when this useless bunch of Tories are consigned to history.
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ajl
28/01/2021 10:44:05 9 24
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Yes we all know Tories hate a well educated population!

The myth education is failing is a never ending Tory fake news story!

Educated folk don’t fall for Tory 3 word phrases.
28/01/2021 11:47:11 5 11
bbc
get real, Brexit in the midst of the pandemic has opened the door for anything. We will not tolerate your hypocritical position on Scottish independence
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28/01/2021 14:57:30 1 3
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Education is not a shambles please stop listening to the MSM lies on this and the other misinformation. Contrast what we have in Scotland with the only option the utter corrupt mess that exists down south. Be thankful the Tories are not in charge here. Being Independent is the surest way to be free from the tragic state that the corrupt regime in Westminster has made all over the UK.
28/01/2021 15:49:02 0 0
bbc
As opposed to brexit you muppet
28/01/2021 16:18:44 1 1
bbc
with Scottish education valued worldwide & high on the international pisa scale you are talking rubbish. Scotland is rejoining Erasmus because our Universities are in high demand by international students. Of course Erasmus himself was the personal tutor of King James iv.
28/01/2021 19:45:57 2 0
bbc
Education has been a shambles for decades, so many people still believe being in the UK is a good idea. However those who can read and write see independence as a normal and better way for a country to be.
29/01/2021 05:12:38 0 0
bbc
Tories , Tories Tories ......why do they hate the Tories so much . If asked they can’t tell you but it does give them a rallying point .....something to hate .
29/01/2021 15:30:29 0 0
bbc
Sturgeon isnt even offering independence.... what she is offering is continued rule by Brussels, only this time as part of a tiny and largely insignificant nation with a miniscule economy (that will become massively smaller without the likes of Faslane and after the EU tell you that selling oil is not allowed for environmental reasons) then you will get the square root of zero say in the EU
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KD
28/01/2021 10:40:45 29 20
bbc
Of course Sturgeon isn't ecstatic about Johnson's visit. She'd prefer he stayed in England so that she could complain that he doesn't care about Scotland.
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ajl
28/01/2021 10:41:54 2 5
bbc
He ones that care about Scotland or Wales Or Northern Ireland or Northern England!
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28/01/2021 10:40:45 139 29
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Until the SNP can provide a financial plan that is vaguely on the credible side, then independence is a no-go.

Currency, reducing the deficit, break up costs,..
Too many questions and nothing but rhetoric as answers.
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28/01/2021 10:43:08 54 57
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Pity that wasn't done with Brexit.
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28/01/2021 10:43:14 2 1
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but the Tories are 'running' (I use the term very loosely) England with the same open questions
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28/01/2021 10:50:41 4 5
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They have..
or do you mean like the UK did for Brexit...lol.
Oh, by the way - England does not own the UK currency .
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28/01/2021 10:52:42 2 3
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Currency would be Euro if they join the EU.
No option.
Not too bad ekther, the way Stg has dropped.
712
28/01/2021 11:10:32 7 5
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What like the Tory plan to fleece the country under the guise of pandemic spending?
How many billions of tax payers monies are now firmly in the pockets of Tory donors and their pals?
28/01/2021 11:45:15 5 3
bbc
just like Brexit and that went ahead despite the pandemic. We in Scotland are now beyond your reach, we ARE leaving.
28/01/2021 13:36:55 0 0
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Did you vote for Brexit?
joe
29/01/2021 07:02:37 0 0
bbc
A bit like Brexit really. And that's working fabulously isn't it.? Maybe SNP should get a fleet of buses with crap on the side and see if the scots are as gullible as their English counterparts.
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28/01/2021 10:40:54 36 33
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That'll really help sending the most despised man in the country
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28/01/2021 10:57:39 8 4
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Peter Murrell visiting too?
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28/01/2021 10:41:01 123 113
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No way does Boris need to physically be in Scotland - his trip is NOT essential. The rest of us are continuing to do business and keep in touch via video links and he could and should do the same. He has now given the general public the very excuse some will need to justify their travel. Shame on Boris.
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28/01/2021 10:50:12 117 25
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Sturgeon isn't. She travels and appears in person every day. Why can't she do this over video?
28/01/2021 12:11:08 1 0
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He is just showing he even cares about Scotland.
28/01/2021 11:59:46 0 0
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What a load of rubbish
28/01/2021 14:56:34 0 0
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I agree with you but not for 'Shame on Boris'.
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28/01/2021 10:41:07 11 11
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Scotland is now firmly (and unfortunately) heading out of the UK. Eventually re-joining the EU (Spain will be persuaded somehow by the EU not to veto it). This is my prediction anyway but I hope Scotland would not leave us.
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28/01/2021 10:51:10 4 10
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I suspect that if everyone had the same attitude as you, it wouldn't happen. You only have to read these pages though to see how many truly objectionable British nationalists really view Scots and their aspirations. Most are Tory Brexiters. There idea of a united front is everybody sitting down and doing what they are told by Tories. It's not going to fly anymore.
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28/01/2021 11:00:22 3 1
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If Scotland was still in the EU how many people in Scotland how many people in SCOTLAND would have been vaccinated? One, two, maybe three? Still Nicola could of blamed the English for stealing their vaccine, that her style.
In 2014 the SNP campaigned for independence knowing it would result in Scotland leaving the EU. The 2016 UK referendum delivered that certainty for the SNP. So there's no reason for indyref2. We can't have one every 7 yrs to accomadate the flip flopping whims of
Queen Nicola the 1st of Scotland. Maybe she should consider moving to Switzerland where she can have a referendum every day of the week.
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28/01/2021 10:43:18 24 63
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Take back control
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28/01/2021 10:49:16 1 3
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Shhhhh. There, there. It'll all be over soon enough.
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28/01/2021 10:50:47 11 9
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Scotland did not want to leave the EU. It was the tories who said ‘better together within the EU’. Well, the tories have broken that promise, so the Scots want to return to the EU fold.
Everything bozo says will aid that aim.
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28/01/2021 10:50:57 10 7
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They voted to stay in the Union wbile we were in the EU.
They voted to stay in the EU, with a good majority, when the question of leave wad asked.They should be entitled to a vote under the changed circumstances.
395
28/01/2021 10:57:26 3 4
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Wow,
thats a twist of reality..
Dominic, is that you?

lol
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28/01/2021 11:08:57 3 3
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Well I thought she was hilarious when she played Victoria Wood's Mum's little Scottish friend, in The BBC's excellent 'Dinnerladies' comedy show.
28/01/2021 11:28:44 4 1
bbc
2014 once in lifetime chance 2021 indy2 does a lifetime in scotland only last 7 years or is that how long it will take her to destroy our country
28/01/2021 11:32:40 0 4
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What a load of rubbish! ! Scotland was told it’s only way of staying in the EU was to stay in the Union! Lies, lies and more lies. What a stupid comment you just made.
28/01/2021 11:43:23 0 1
bbc
I think you'll find it is the Scottish people who want Independence, hence we keep voting in the SNP as the only party that may deliver. it's called DEMOCRACY!
28/01/2021 11:47:44 0 2
bbc
Literally none of this is accurate.
28/01/2021 11:52:21 2 0
bbc
Should be renamed the SNNP, the Scottish Nearly National Party. If they get independence and rejoin the EU in a few years time they will discover that they are controlled by the EU more than by Westminster now. What happens then, another referendum to get independence from the EU?
28/01/2021 11:59:32 0 1
bbc
This is factually incorrect and should be removed
28/01/2021 12:04:18 0 0
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Let them go, and they can face the consequences. I very much doubt that they would even be able to meet the Financial constraints of joining the EU, but no doubt Barnier and his cronies will find a way like they did with Greece. Let Wales go next, and they can stand on their own 2 feet.
28/01/2021 12:07:13 0 1
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Pretty sure during indyref that we were told that the only way to stay in EU was to vote No. it is English Toryism that took Scotland out of EU. So lies lies lies. That is why there should be an Indyref2 so that scaremongering about being out of EU can’t be used as it was a major factor in the NO vote in indyref
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28/01/2021 10:38:42 23 19
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All this does is give Nicola further ammunition to use for her separatist cause.

In internet slang terms, he is quite literally feeding the troll.
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KRR
28/01/2021 10:41:08 25 24
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'her separatist cause'

Independence?

The cause that around 20 consecutive polls suggest most of Scotland's people support?

Hardly 'hers', really, however hate-filled you may be towards our FM, is it?

It's Scotland's people's.
28/01/2021 19:48:13 1 0
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Polls run by an SNP owned polling company....what would you expect?
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28/01/2021 10:41:10 112 102
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It's not an essential journey is it, who is he trying to kid.
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28/01/2021 10:48:14 28 44
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It might be for his survival.
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28/01/2021 10:57:19 11 3
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He can't win - if he does visit it is "not an essential journey" and if he doesn't visit he is "aloof and ignoring Scotland".

He is the elected UK PM and part of this mandate is to lead, be up to date and aware of a rapidly evolving situation.

The fact he is a bumbling imbecile with a track record of being fired for lying rather undermines this message however.

SNP will complain regardless
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28/01/2021 11:00:02 4 7
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He’s the PM of the UK it is.

The 12 SNP supporter paid for lorry drivers that swaned around WM to Sturgeon’s delight however weren’t. Neither were they anything to do with fishermen, just trucks owned by opportunist SNP supporters who thought they would be smug and laugh in our faces.
28/01/2021 11:30:51 4 2
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And if he didn't go he would be accused of ignoring Scotland. He is the UK PM ,whatever you think of him personally show some respect for the office he holds. Scotland is part of the UK and the PM need to show a prescence
28/01/2021 11:26:46 2 1
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Neither is a fleet of trucks heading over the border with a threat to dump rotten fish at number 10. Government very quiet on that regards being allowed.
28/01/2021 12:03:22 1 1
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Doesn't matter he's the boss not like covid Margaret or Nicoliar! So suck it up!
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28/01/2021 10:41:23 20 17
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he should not go there he should phone or video link to her. everyone is in this situation and so should he, they make you laugh saying he is the prime minister for UK sure he is with all the mess what's been going on. if he can go to Scotland then let us go out for a day to the coast.
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zap
28/01/2021 10:41:29 208 110
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"Visible and Accessible" Ha ha ha !! As with any tory leader visiting Scotland he will meet with a few loyal allies and supporters in a closely stage managed set of photo opportunities and sound bites. I mean, he wouldn't want to end up in a fridge again, would he ?
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28/01/2021 10:44:05 123 80
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Agree - even Douglas Ross does not want to be seen with Boris!
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28/01/2021 10:47:44 9 4
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IMHO, best place for him
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28/01/2021 10:48:42 13 4
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He's not called "back door Boris" for nothing. And no, not that either.
28/01/2021 11:48:54 5 1
bbc
Remember the fridge episode. Whar a joke,
28/01/2021 11:52:42 8 0
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Do you think Bozo will be welcome with the fishermen this time? Or has that boat sailed?
28/01/2021 12:07:44 1 8
bbc
PM of the UK actually.
28/01/2021 13:10:44 2 3
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No doubt the Nat rent-a-mob would like to intimidate him as they have done with opposition politicians before, but fortunately they will not succeed. There are substantial numbers of Conservative supporters in Scotland who will welcome his visit.
28/01/2021 13:50:40 1 2
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loyal allies ,stage managed, photo opportunity? your talking about the leading expert in these, Sturgeon, right?
28/01/2021 16:22:55 0 0
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Gloat as you will but the days of the snp are numbered. The majority of Scots can see through her shallow future plans for their country and she will have a shock at the elections.
28/01/2021 16:32:16 0 0
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Wasn't that a vision of desperation, a British Prime minister hiding in a fridge exhibiting all the signs of a panic stricken child looking for his mummy. And that is what leads our 'great nation'
28/01/2021 16:50:57 0 0
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Agree - interesting he chose not to revisit the fishing community up here...
28/01/2021 17:31:07 0 0
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Too much to hope for.
28/01/2021 17:35:45 0 0
bbc
It would seem Perhaps Possible "that Boris Might Want to be In a Fridge, Provided Of Course that the Fridge Freezer Storage Were Well Supplied With A Freezer Requirement Covid-19 Pandemic Vaccine"

Just Saying
29/01/2021 11:47:39 0 0
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No room in the fridge, the AZ vaccine is stored in them.
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28/01/2021 10:41:30 899 337
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Sturgeon doesn't like the fact that her boss is coming in to check up on her.
W?? Removed
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28/01/2021 10:56:50 58 26
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Sturgeon doesn’t like any facts
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28/01/2021 11:01:03 26 71
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Haha is that what’s happening? Completely hypocritical of Boris to travel across the border when no one else is allowed to, especially as he’s already had COVID. In fact who’s to say he’s not here to deliberately spread the virus to try and make Scotland’s case numbers as bad as England’s?
28/01/2021 11:22:23 26 52
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"Sturgeon doesn't like the fact that her boss is coming in to check up on her."

Seems like a sound argument for independence. One country controlled by another failing one.
Didnt we just have a vote to leave something like that? Thankfully Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen has some respect and doesnt just travel to London for an "essential" photoshoot.
28/01/2021 11:24:47 12 21
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Crazy! What planet are you on?
28/01/2021 11:34:39 21 32
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Not her boss in Scotland.
28/01/2021 11:58:52 2 2
bbc
Mask, gloves and apron.......
28/01/2021 12:10:29 22 5
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Last time I looked she wasn’t a member of the Conservative and Unionist party
28/01/2021 12:19:20 24 20
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She answers to the Scottish people. It’s called democracy
28/01/2021 12:29:57 4 3
bbc
What a stupid contribution.
28/01/2021 13:05:48 6 11
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He isn't her boss. He is the current leader of the Conservative Party, so by default, prime minister. Nicola Sturgeon is not a member of the Conservative Party.
28/01/2021 12:43:06 8 11
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Ms Sturgeon is answerable to the people of Scotland and will be held accountable. BoJo is neither elected nor has a mandate to speak on the behalf of the people of Scotland. May elections will demonstrate that once again, the Tories have no place in a progressive Scotland.
28/01/2021 13:12:52 5 6
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If the Tory Bot Propaganda Machine thinks slagging off the Scottish will lead to unity and end the spectre of the break up of the United Kingdom, then they are still living in cloud-cuckoo-land.
28/01/2021 13:16:58 3 5
bbc
behold your lord and master JAY JAY - Darth Johnson - BOW! Take the knee!
28/01/2021 13:23:31 1 1
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Will you still make that point if the SNP massively out plays the Scottish Tories at the election?
SJ
28/01/2021 14:30:16 0 0
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But he's not her boss. Queenie is.
28/01/2021 14:31:52 1 2
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The FM's boss will be the Scottish people not some corrupt liar from Westminster.
28/01/2021 14:33:27 0 0
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well if he is her boss he should sack her !! she is one jumped up narcistic glorified counsellor !
28/01/2021 14:35:24 0 2
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Boris is nobodies' boss in Holyrood. In fact I wonder if he has control of anything given his dithering and incompetence.
28/01/2021 15:04:16 1 1
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Well Jay Jay;tell me when Boris Johnson was elected to the Scottish Parliament over the Scottish first Minister?
Boris Johnson is no more Nicola Sturgeons boss, than the Queen
He may be the boss of the non-devolved UK wide government offices like the Borders agency and the Armed forces but once you devolve powers you dont remain the boss of them.
Good to air your ignorance with confidence though!
28/01/2021 16:25:18 0 0
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Boss Hog
28/01/2021 17:00:57 1 0
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I think she just finds the oaf repulsive. I know I do.
28/01/2021 17:18:09 0 1
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as I know sturgeon or mrs murell as she is also Johnson is NOT her boss she is her own boss as first minster an official elected post and she is head of government checking up on her away typical English superior attitude
ron
28/01/2021 17:19:50 0 1
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I don't Sturgen thinks Johnston is anyone's boss he has made a complete mess of dealing with the virus late at all stages of pandemic failed to heed of the advice given and opened up Christmas Scotland and Wales government's
has been ahead of him at every turn. The man's a clown.
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28/01/2021 10:39:00 881 189
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No Union, no Union money. Fine by me.
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28/01/2021 10:41:35 667 807
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Scotland is the 2nd largest regional net contributor to the Treasury after London & the South-East. Don't let facts cloud your ignorance.
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28/01/2021 10:48:26 255 44
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No they are not - have run a deficit for the past 20 years and bailed out every year by UK government !
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28/01/2021 10:51:00 179 24
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you spend more than you contribute
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28/01/2021 10:51:48 244 18
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Tax revenue generated in Scotland amounts to about £66 billion, including North Sea oil revenue, but it benefits from about £81 billion in public spending.
So £15bn short, or almost 23% more spent than it generates.
In normal times this would quickly bankrupt Scotland if it were independent.
Facts:
https://www.gov.scot/publications/government-expenditure-revenue-scotland-gers/
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28/01/2021 10:56:36 91 12
bbc
Rubbish!
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28/01/2021 11:05:02 127 9
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Counting isn’t your strong point - that makes it 3rd

More significantly, Scotland is the biggest net beneficiary of public spending. Hence the massive net deficit
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28/01/2021 11:12:59 25 6
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I'm not quite sure what the relevance of comparing Scotland, 1 of 4 UK nations, to a city in England and a region of England? I gather you are doing it because it rather portrays a message about Scotland's finances that you like. As reassuring as you may find it, it does nothing to address the issue of potential tax receipts vs spending in an independent Scotland which looks a bit grim.
925
28/01/2021 11:19:16 3 5
bbc
I'm sure Scotland paying it's way but please don't conflate the London and the South East. All the money is spent on London and now the North (of England). The SE pays a fortune and gets far less.
28/01/2021 11:03:10 23 4
bbc
And a massive recipient under the Barnett formula. But fine, off you go and see how long you last.
28/01/2021 11:36:49 17 5
bbc
Then Scotland must share the burden of the national debt. But hey, don't let the facts cloud your ignorance brave heart.
28/01/2021 11:42:31 11 0
bbc
This is out of date and half the picture.

If you check ONS you'll see the East and NW England now contributes more to the treasury. Scotland is just above the SW.

Scotland and NI also have 25% more spent per head than the lowest areas.

Don't let real facts cloud your judgement.

Search ONS regional revenue
28/01/2021 11:42:31 9 1
bbc
Scotland will only have scotch whiskey when oil is no longer viable. Good Luck!!
28/01/2021 11:42:34 9 2
bbc
At a guess, Yorkshire's probably more economically (as well as culturally - yes: even the Tykes!) more significant. But that apart, how much of Scotland's economy is because it's part of he UK? Were it a separate country, by how much would its econmy shrink?
28/01/2021 11:52:13 6 0
bbc
England is by far the major contributor to the UK purse. No problem.
28/01/2021 11:56:23 6 0
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BS
28/01/2021 12:07:32 0 9
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Well said
28/01/2021 12:08:29 5 0
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You got any independent back up data for that?
28/01/2021 12:08:37 7 0
bbc
Ok with independence scotland would be the most debt ridden country in the developed world according to IMF. The IMF also stated ( and snp prefer these figures). Per capita scotland is the 6th richest in earth.. yes but that’s ONLY IN THE UK. With the worst health in the world how do u think we would even fund the NHS. Seriously have a word
28/01/2021 12:09:25 9 0
bbc
All areas of the UK are net deficit contributors apart from London and the South East. Scotland has run a net deficit for 20 years
28/01/2021 12:16:50 9 1
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Here's another fact, every Scotch persons is subsidised to the tune of £2,000 per year by the UK taxpayer as a whole. So you can see why many people in the rest of the UK would be happy to see this removed by Scotland independence. Good luck on Scotlands attempts to rejoin the EU and having to be tied to the Euro currency and complying with the EU central bank.
28/01/2021 12:30:12 1 6
bbc
"Scotland is the 2nd largest regional net contributor to the Treasury after London & the South-East. Don't let facts cloud your ignorance."
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The fact that 224 people have downvoted this (as opposed to 189 upvotes) shows that most people are obviously content to ignore facts if said facts contradict their agendas.

A much wider problem for the UK as a whole I think.
28/01/2021 12:32:20 6 1
bbc
maybe but blimey we support and fund practically everything for them, let NS take them to independence, good luck with that one.
CPJ
28/01/2021 12:32:48 6 0
bbc
Fake
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28/01/2021 10:41:38 14 11
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While there was a majority wishing to remain in EU in Scotland remember over 30% did not vote in that election. The EU and independence are two separate issues though the SNP and BBC conflate the two. The FM’s poor choice of words re PM’s visit yesterday has gone down badly; it will please others in the Scottish Nasty Party and harden the resolve of others to vote her party out in May.
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28/01/2021 10:48:06 1 4
bbc
You keep telling yourself that. Bless.
28/01/2021 11:41:10 0 0
bbc
and Scotland has nearly rid itself of the corrupt ComeServeItToUs Party
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28/01/2021 10:41:39 26 21
bbc
So Boris has a plan to "ease" us out of lockdown, which he will "reveal" next month! Meantime, he's off on an "essential" trip to Scotland to boost the independence vote & shows he's learned nothing from the 'Cummings Affair' with his shameful silence & dithering inacctivity over Desmond (Dagenham East) Swayne comments!??
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28/01/2021 10:41:39 17 16
bbc
Can you keep him please. Thanks in advance.
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28/01/2021 10:42:47 3 1
bbc
Please let us have a day off?
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zap
28/01/2021 10:47:00 1 1
bbc
Aye, just send us the fridge to keep him in
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28/01/2021 10:48:47 1 1
bbc
Preferably put him on a remote Scottish island for 2 weeks quarantine
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28/01/2021 10:38:08 49 38
bbc
What can he say in Scotland that he can say from Zoom?
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28/01/2021 10:41:46 17 20
bbc
He is adamant that shaking as many hands as possible is the only surefire way to get those ignorant Scots to change their mind on Scottish independence, or at least get rid of as many of them as possible.

It's a brilliant plan, if you think about it.
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28/01/2021 10:45:02 4 2
bbc
Elbow bumps all round with Bojo.
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28/01/2021 10:39:55 1247 280
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Just give the scots the unvarnished truth about independence and not a load of SNP claptrap and let them decide
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28/01/2021 10:41:51 619 71
bbc
Agree, but try getting anyone to have a rational discussion on it is a challenge
851
28/01/2021 11:15:59 20 10
bbc
A bit like Brexit then!
28/01/2021 12:16:32 5 2
bbc
Would you listen if we tried? It’s easier to think we’re all ignorant cultists. That’s where you are going wrong.
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KD
28/01/2021 10:40:45 29 20
bbc
Of course Sturgeon isn't ecstatic about Johnson's visit. She'd prefer he stayed in England so that she could complain that he doesn't care about Scotland.
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ajl
28/01/2021 10:41:54 2 5
bbc
He ones that care about Scotland or Wales Or Northern Ireland or Northern England!
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28/01/2021 10:41:56 19 14
bbc
Bojo should not go to Scotland at the moment. Sturgeon is using the Covid situation to further her racist agenda and by travelling to Scotland Bojo will be playing into her hands as well as setting a poor example.
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28/01/2021 10:45:52 7 8
bbc
Can you prove Sturgeon's "racist agenda"? If not then that's libel!??
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28/01/2021 10:47:27 2 3
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Racist agenda. *snurk*
28/01/2021 11:39:31 0 0
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you sir are an ignorant bigot
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28/01/2021 10:42:01 13 13
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Scotland benefits massively from being in the union and is currently enjoying £billions of subsidy from the UK government as a result. Whilst the Scottish government says “this is the most important budget in devolution” etc it should bear this in mind. Just saying.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/union-dividend-of-1941-for-every-person-in-scotland
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zap
28/01/2021 10:46:14 4 4
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Scotland sends £65 billion to Westminster each year. It gets £35billion back
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28/01/2021 10:47:03 0 1
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Should be glad to see us go then. Tatty bye. :)
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28/01/2021 10:47:19 0 1
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Where do all the companies with London hqs get their profits?
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28/01/2021 10:40:37 737 196
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Time we stood up to the SNP. More people vote for Union backing parties in Scotland, the SNP take more seats because pro-Union vote is split. The Union isn't perfect but Sturgeon's Indy-at-all-costs approach is suicidal.
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28/01/2021 10:42:05 185 293
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Yes let’s sort that with an Indyref
28/01/2021 11:42:11 20 7
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You've already had one.
28/01/2021 12:02:15 32 6
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You had indyref in 2014. You cant keep holding referenda every few years depending in which way the wind is blowing.
28/01/2021 12:02:24 31 6
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You have had one and the SNP lost!
28/01/2021 12:10:03 7 1
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We did
28/01/2021 13:01:46 3 1
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You've had one.
28/01/2021 12:48:01 5 7
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Anyone that denounces an independence referendum are clearly scared of the outcome and before anyone spouts the "once in a generation" nonsense, please remember this was backed with "the only way to stay in the EU was to stay in the UK".
Sam
28/01/2021 13:10:04 5 1
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We did. A once in a generation vote and Scotland voted to stay. And even given Scotland's terrible health record under the SNP, I think a generation in Scotland is still slightly longer than 7 years...
28/01/2021 13:10:28 4 0
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we had one, you lost!
28/01/2021 13:54:22 2 0
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You miss-spelled neverendumb
28/01/2021 13:53:23 1 0
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Look how well that worked for Brexit.
28/01/2021 15:24:08 1 1
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You know the problem with wanting an indyref 2 and the reason why it will never be granted? Brexit. The govt thought there was only one possible outcome, so yes, lets lance the boil and let people have a vote. Didn't go to plan though did it?

So why let people have another vote for something which only a fanatical few want 'at any cost' and the powers that be definitely don't?
Ady
28/01/2021 15:30:15 2 1
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Again, more scots vote against the SNP than for it!
How does that warrant them demanding a referendum on constitutional matters outside their remit?
28/01/2021 15:33:56 1 0
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You had an indyref - it's just that the SNP wont accept the result
28/01/2021 16:35:30 1 0
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I thought we just had one....wasn't it a once in a lifetime opportunity.
28/01/2021 18:44:17 0 0
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We had one, or what is it the best of 3 within 10 years
28/01/2021 20:08:36 0 0
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Did you miss it - it was held in 2014?
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28/01/2021 10:42:14 29 25
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What a great advert for Independence Johnson will be
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28/01/2021 10:58:07 3 1
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So apparently was Cameron.
57
28/01/2021 10:42:14 10 12
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Why oh why do the likes of Mr Johnson, and all the grandees of the Tory party, insist on making such a song and dance about 'the union'? Grassroots members of the Tory Party, or ordinary Tory voters, don't share this obsession.

Especially since they see that, without the cohort of left-wing MPs that Scotland regularly sends to Westminster, England would have a permanent Tory majority.
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28/01/2021 10:45:46 1 1
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That seems to advocate disaster.
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28/01/2021 10:42:16 59 39
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Sorry Scotland.
706
28/01/2021 11:10:24 12 29
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Don’t really understand what he hopes to achieve. What could he possibly say or offer to sway people away from Indy unless he’s here to announce fully devolved powers for Holyrood.
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28/01/2021 10:42:17 26 20
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Like putting out a fire with petrol
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28/01/2021 10:38:01 61 50
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The PM should have stayed in Downing Street. "Stay Home" is his mantra.

Scotland should quarantine him for 14 days then another 14 days quarantine when he returns to Downing Street. In a police station cell so he can't escape or communicate.
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28/01/2021 10:42:20 10 8
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Or a fridge. He likes fridges.
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28/01/2021 10:42:21 19 19
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I am incredibly sad, that this has even been made into a political news story. The gentleman in question is after all the leader of the UK conducting pandemic related business. Similar to HRH visit. Good news stories made negative, to suit particular narratives.
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28/01/2021 10:46:05 5 6
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He is there purely for political purposes for the May elections in Scotland. He should be fined for breaking covid travel rules.
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28/01/2021 10:46:16 1 2
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It's an unnecessary PR charm offensive. He's utterly irrelevant at best to Scottish voters, even Tories. A complete waste of time and money.
28/01/2021 11:38:04 0 1
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are you serious? Boris is a lying sack of Covid with no notion of DUTY.
he is the WORST PM in history!
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28/01/2021 10:42:24 771 197
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The pandemic has shown we need unity and not division on this island.
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28/01/2021 10:44:48 548 610
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But brexit has shown we need division.
Neither Scottish nor NI remain vote honoured.
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28/01/2021 10:44:51 59 22
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Then let's not pretend that an 80 seat majority government with 43% of the vote who instigated the most divisive period in the UK's history are the ones to provide it.
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28/01/2021 10:44:52 31 45
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Also a Union with the EU, which Scotland with get soon.
269
28/01/2021 10:51:56 32 18
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This nation has never been more divided. Suits the tories that way.
613
28/01/2021 11:06:05 37 29
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England and Wales voted for division by choosing Brexit, i am not a remoaner by the way ! but own your mess .You vote Tory you chose Brexit .
828
28/01/2021 11:15:02 10 10
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Tories= divide and rule.
988
28/01/2021 11:21:45 17 11
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Ideally yes but Brexit has divided the UK like never before and it isn't going to go away anytime soon. Let's face it, with all of the lies and disinformation, Brexit was a sham right from the outset.
28/01/2021 11:28:50 7 9
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Created more by brexit lies.
If YOU voted for Brexit then YOU caused this John
28/01/2021 11:36:36 7 8
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and Brexit shows we need out of this TOXIC union.
28/01/2021 12:07:10 1 0
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Bit late for that after the needlessly fought 2016-20 Civil War which is no small way contributed to the chaos of UK Covid crisis ! All too busy looking the wrong way!
28/01/2021 12:07:57 1 0
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Pretty sure unity is a two way street
28/01/2021 12:08:15 4 2
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The pandemic has shown how letting a Tory, and a populist idiot Tory at that control anything in a pandemic is a recipe for total disaster. It's no wonder Scotland wants nothing to do with Johnson. I wish the English would hurry up and reach the same conclusion.
28/01/2021 12:15:00 2 2
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England has both COVID-19 death rate and total deaths (both per million) 50% higher than Scotland. We don't need unity; we need a bloody great wall to keep them out.
And you can only work together if you are shackled to each other? Grow up Removed
28/01/2021 12:18:59 1 2
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Nope the pandemic has proven that we need independence
28/01/2021 12:28:57 1 1
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Get some help, quickly. You are sadly deluded.
28/01/2021 12:50:48 0 0
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And in Northern Ireland.
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28/01/2021 10:42:34 46 42
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One rule for Boris and the Tory elite one rule for everyone else
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28/01/2021 10:43:37 27 18
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Zzzzzzzzzz.....
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28/01/2021 10:45:00 1 2
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Yip, masks off Nicola
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28/01/2021 10:42:41 90 20
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Boris saving Nicola & the SNP

Stops us complaining about their vaccine roll-out

Job done Nicola, distraction complete....

Vaccines - thank you UK

Still in EU - No Vaccine?
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28/01/2021 10:46:22 19 54
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Try writing sentences.
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28/01/2021 11:07:22 0 2
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Production of a Vaccine in Livingstone has just started, we await your grateful thanks.
28/01/2021 12:04:00 0 1
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Blinkers on usual. Blue ones. How would UK react if vaccines they had ordered and paid for not delivered.
28/01/2021 21:44:48 0 0
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What is the big rush for this vaccine. It the UK government had done the proper things at the appropriate time we would have an effective tracking system and not have to rush into a "slightly" tested vaccine programme.
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28/01/2021 10:41:39 17 16
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Can you keep him please. Thanks in advance.
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28/01/2021 10:42:47 3 1
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Please let us have a day off?
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28/01/2021 10:42:49 5 6
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Outside the UK many more Scots would have become ill and died because inside the UK we have access to greater resources of which the vaccine orders are proof. Now, or soon, we will have to start to pay the bill of having borrowed enormous sums and that will take years.
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zap
28/01/2021 10:50:52 2 4
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You should look at the numbers. If Westminster had been responsible for managing the pandemic across the whole UK then over well 2000 living Scots would instead be dead.
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Em
28/01/2021 10:39:32 23 27
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If they want independence, let them have it but make it a hard border, move infrastructures back South, they pay compensation for what remains and let them use the Scottish Pound. I for one am sick and tired of the whining from up North. Good riddance!
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28/01/2021 10:42:55 18 7
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Me too and I live in Scotland, don't forgot not everyone wants independence
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28/01/2021 10:38:59 38 20
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Thanks for telling us what we can and can’t do.
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28/01/2021 10:42:56 13 12
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No need to get your panties in a bunch. It was just a friendly suggestion.
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28/01/2021 10:40:45 139 29
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Until the SNP can provide a financial plan that is vaguely on the credible side, then independence is a no-go.

Currency, reducing the deficit, break up costs,..
Too many questions and nothing but rhetoric as answers.
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28/01/2021 10:43:08 54 57
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Pity that wasn't done with Brexit.
28/01/2021 12:10:49 0 0
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True but a lot of people adopt the double standards approach
28/01/2021 12:13:59 1 0
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And the proof is?
28/01/2021 16:26:09 0 0
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It was.
28/01/2021 16:36:15 1 1
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Pity not done for brexit , meaning you would want it done for indy2 so what is the indy2 plan err absolutely nothing so let's be clear nothing to debate other than how bad the union and English are and absolutely no alternative given !
29/01/2021 11:45:52 0 0
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It was, and not even 30 days into complete freedom and the EU is in turmoil demanding Brexit UK send them vaccines because their EU plants in the Netherlands & Belgium aren't and running because the EU took months to order the AZ vaccine.
29/01/2021 15:43:34 0 0
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Because the Bank of England controls about 5% of global monetary supply so what $125 Trillion and we don't measure these type of colossal figures in anything else but the USD. INDYREF2 is simply about whether Scotland remains dependent on the BofE as she has done for 300 years or switches to the ECB. If the latter you need a new currency.
29/01/2021 15:48:20 0 0
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But it was, thats one of the issues, in we were paying a fortune for a trade deficit and rules we didnt want or need. Thats why the EU was so hell bent on the whole 'you must continue to follow our rules' (which no other trade partner has to do) because they realise that outside of the EU the UK is going to grow and prosper
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28/01/2021 10:43:09 93 80
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Bojo never cared about sovereignty. He only cared about getting to No. 10.

Now he has to face the reality that Scotland actually wants independence. It's their choice to make. His hypocrisy only makes the situation worse.
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28/01/2021 10:47:02 137 37
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The Scots voted No in the “Once in a generation” Indyref.
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28/01/2021 11:14:16 3 2
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like it was our choice to leave eu something you haven't accepted
28/01/2021 12:05:25 0 1
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Meow better than being a Nicoliar
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28/01/2021 10:40:45 139 29
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Until the SNP can provide a financial plan that is vaguely on the credible side, then independence is a no-go.

Currency, reducing the deficit, break up costs,..
Too many questions and nothing but rhetoric as answers.
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28/01/2021 10:43:14 2 1
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but the Tories are 'running' (I use the term very loosely) England with the same open questions
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28/01/2021 10:58:34 6 2
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That makes no sense...

Currency = £. Would Scotland use it?

Deficit = It needs reducing but Indy Scotland would HAVE to reduce it to reapply to the EU. It is many times what it needs to be.

Break up costs = not relevant
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28/01/2021 10:37:43 1155 406
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NS will do her best to put herself and career before the good of the Scotland/UK
We need to stick together
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28/01/2021 10:43:16 817 943
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Normally I would agree, but I don't blame Scotland one bit for wanting to get away from this awful bunch of Tories.
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28/01/2021 10:47:36 12 27
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As long as we get a vote too!!
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28/01/2021 10:54:42 34 13
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Well then present an argument with facts rather than supposition. Saying the pandemic has been handled badly without pointing to where the Gov't went against balanced OFFICIAL advice is perception not fact. Otherwise the historic persistence of Conservative government will continue. Calling Boris a Clown will work no better than calling Corbin a communist did in 2016
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28/01/2021 10:56:49 51 28
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That's so short sighted - wanting away from Johnson is one thing, but he'll be gone in a few years anyway. Vote for independence and we're stuck with the austerity that will bring forever.
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28/01/2021 10:57:22 31 28
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Most of England want to get away from them too but then joining the EU?????

Madness!!!
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28/01/2021 11:01:17 53 28
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Rather than finger point at Tories - why dont you point at the abject failure and corruption within scottish politics...
Boris and his bunch of incompetents will disappear eventually, but the union is long term and should be preserved.
However, I can't believe I'm saying this, I do agree with Krankie on this one, the UK government message is "Behave as if you have got it", so there is no need for politicians with press pack, security and entourage, visiting vaccination centres busy with the most vulnerable.
Removed
28/01/2021 11:27:07 3 2
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True
28/01/2021 11:35:06 4 11
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Why further divide and weaken a nation. Strength is to be found in unity. Then vote the Tories out in just over 3 years time. Keep the UK as a 4 nation state.
28/01/2021 11:39:14 7 8
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I agree with what you have said, and you have more downvotes for telling the truth.

The right wing/Tories attitude is that they won the election, and you have to do what they say.

What is important to realise is that Scotlands approach to politics and welfare is vastly different to the Tories. If many people have a more socialistic approach to life, then any right wing government will rankle.
28/01/2021 11:55:55 6 5
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This awful bunch of Tories won’t be here forever. Splitting the U.K. will be permanent. Everyone need to look at the bigger picture not just the here and now.
28/01/2021 11:45:23 6 4
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That would be the biggest majority of Tory’s voted for just over a year ago by a massive landslide ?
28/01/2021 12:00:59 7 4
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This administration is here for 4 years, the pain of Scottish independence for Scotland (especially if they want to join the EU and get their budget deficit below 3% of GDP and join the Euro), will last a lifetime.
28/01/2021 12:04:48 1 3
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Well said
28/01/2021 12:05:29 4 1
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“ scotland “ does not.. it’s 3% of the UK Population that does
28/01/2021 12:15:13 3 1