Covid-19: Cough, fatigue, sore throat 'more common' with new variant
27/01/2021 | news | health | 1,036
But loss of taste and smell may be less likely to affect those with the new strain, a study suggests.
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The biggest virus killer in Scotland has been the SNP and Sturgeon's staggeringly inept handling of this pandemic and being responsible for the highest Care Home deaths in the UK.

Let's also add the highest drug related deaths per head of population in the developed world.
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27/01/2021 15:04:06 26 41
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There's a large increase in drug deaths & suicides in the States also. Part of that was enabled by Covid relief income which was used to purchase more drugs.
My children lost one of their classmates that way during the summer.
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27/01/2021 15:35:24 11 6
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Not even close. Per head of population, there are more overdoses in North America from opioids alone than all drugs combined in the UK.
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27/01/2021 15:40:02 26 8
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Agreed, her only interest is to constantly, boringly slag off England..
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27/01/2021 15:54:16 14 5
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Significantly lower death rate than England and Wales
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27/01/2021 16:08:44 20 6
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Scotland has overall the lowest deaths per 100k in the UK and currently at around 5% positivity, 15% lower than England. So you're incorrect.
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27/01/2021 16:09:15 4 8
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Please seek help immediately. There are people who can help you. Please do not give up. Tel. 0300 123 3393 or email info@mind.org.uk
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27/01/2021 16:17:42 12 5
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Current cumulative deaths per 100K are:

England 153.7
Wales 144.4
Scotland 104.5
Northern Ireland 92.3

For comparison, the USA is 124.9 and Taiwan (island nation, more than twice as densely populated than the UK) is 0.0297/100K. Yes, the decimal place is in the right place there.

Not saying Sturgeon's exactly played a blinder, but England and Wales are both worse than Scotland.
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27/01/2021 17:25:00 5 6
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The only thing inept here is your misinformed analysis, still no surprise as you post any old lies that suit your unionist agenda.
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27/01/2021 18:48:38 2 0
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I'm amazed to have seen that not a single person replying to your comment actually read it.
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27/01/2021 19:10:20 0 0
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Yeah but ALL the drug deaths are self inflicted
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27/01/2021 20:02:41 5 2
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But Sturgeon reckons you will all be better off with her leading you :) Good luck with that one. Of course the light at the end of that tunnel is that she thinks the EU will have you back and give you the subsidies you would no longer get from the English but the EU will replace her with the likes of Barmy hair and control from Berlin.
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I'm English, and hate the idea of Scottish independence, but I think she has done a pretty good job. The only negative I would put against her was she restricted too much in the summer, it could have been eased to allow a temporary reprove. In this situation not everything can be perfect, the wrong decisions will cost lives or livelihoods, but some are inevitable
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27/01/2021 14:59:27 18 43
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Time to stop all this nonsense.

Only Sweden have handled this virus well. No compulsory masks, no compulsory lockdown. Economy, shops, cafes, bars all still open. And they have fared no worse than anyone else.

(Granted even there they messed up terribly in the early days by not "locking down" the Old Folks homes. But that aside... they've done no worse than anyone else).
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27/01/2021 15:00:52 11 37
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Agree completely the U.K. have been like rabbits caught in headlights copying China with lockdown etc.
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27/01/2021 15:31:56 13 4
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Sweden had a higher Death rate than their Nordic peers and a bigger fall in their Economy. On two major counts they did fair worse. (However disgustingly for the UK Gov they did better than the UK on both counts) BTW they have passed lockdown laws over the weekend as yet not used.
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27/01/2021 15:48:33 10 3
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It's not reasonable to compare Sweden to the UK, their population density is less than one tenth of ours (25 per sq km vs 275 per sq km (and 430 for England)) and they have far fewer people entering the country than we do.
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27/01/2021 15:00:08 231 53
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Can someone tell me the point of the BBC wanting to have a discussion on this ?
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27/01/2021 15:06:35 142 43
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Is there any answer that would satisfy you?
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27/01/2021 16:42:31 15 6
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Can someone tell me the point of someone asking the point of the BBC wanting to have a discussion on this?
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27/01/2021 16:44:03 11 3
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Because the NHS focus on only 3 symptoms - possibly not even the most common ones caused by the Canterbury variant - is misleading people. As a result they are not getting tested and treated early enough, leading to increased risk of hospitalisation & long-term harm. It's a crucial issue that the government & NHS haven't seemed willing to acknowledge.
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27/01/2021 17:22:16 11 1
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As we have a new virus (now with new variants) it seems pretty sensible to give people the opportunity to discuss possible symptoms. The 'loss of taste and smell' symptom was anecdotal at first - just individual people saying they'd noticed it - but now it's been properly, scientifically, investigated, and found to be one of the main symptoms of Covid.
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27/01/2021 17:26:06 7 12
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You won't get an answer. Pseudo-science and Quackery rule the roost in the UK's "trusted" State broadcaster these days, that seems to be the sad state of affairs.
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27/01/2021 17:42:56 8 15
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Can someone tell me the point of the BBC.
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27/01/2021 17:50:30 7 5
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If its pointless, why ask? its inane to even bother... oh unless your agenda is to stiffle the BBC and any comments for or against that are rational
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27/01/2021 18:03:20 3 5
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Looks like you did - you're on a HYS.
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27/01/2021 18:08:31 2 5
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the BBC doesn't want a discussion on -anything-.

BBC. image to uphold. messy, 'real' comments have no place at the BBC.

that's why the HYS format is so ****
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27/01/2021 19:06:35 0 1
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It’s because they have no other “news” and don’t want anyone having a conversation about why it’s essential for Boris the blade to travel more than 5 miles for a jolly to Scotland to try and save the union.
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27/01/2021 19:17:44 1 0
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To get the input of the experts?
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27/01/2021 19:33:27 1 0
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You clearly want to discuss it, so why don’t you tell us....?

Muppet...
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27/01/2021 20:04:13 0 2
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That's cause they don't want to open a discussion where is siesta-loving EU is threatening AstraZeneca.
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27/01/2021 22:42:53 0 0
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it gives a lot of self-appointed experts the chance to blow off hot air
#wibble
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27/01/2021 22:44:55 0 2
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But no HYS on the EU vaccines disaster, typical BBC, aka as Brussels Broadcasting Corp
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27/01/2021 22:44:49 0 0
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There’s bugger all else to talk about
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27/01/2021 23:06:49 1 0
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Well you joined in
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27/01/2021 14:59:27 18 43
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Time to stop all this nonsense.

Only Sweden have handled this virus well. No compulsory masks, no compulsory lockdown. Economy, shops, cafes, bars all still open. And they have fared no worse than anyone else.

(Granted even there they messed up terribly in the early days by not "locking down" the Old Folks homes. But that aside... they've done no worse than anyone else).
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27/01/2021 15:00:52 11 37
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Agree completely the U.K. have been like rabbits caught in headlights copying China with lockdown etc.
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27/01/2021 14:58:43 150 96
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The biggest virus killer in Scotland has been the SNP and Sturgeon's staggeringly inept handling of this pandemic and being responsible for the highest Care Home deaths in the UK.

Let's also add the highest drug related deaths per head of population in the developed world.
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27/01/2021 15:04:06 26 41
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There's a large increase in drug deaths & suicides in the States also. Part of that was enabled by Covid relief income which was used to purchase more drugs.
My children lost one of their classmates that way during the summer.
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27/01/2021 15:27:26 7 3
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Prohibition clearly working..
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27/01/2021 15:00:08 231 53
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Can someone tell me the point of the BBC wanting to have a discussion on this ?
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27/01/2021 15:06:35 142 43
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Is there any answer that would satisfy you?
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27/01/2021 15:16:00 23 10
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The story is about an analysis part of a long term study? its a statement? what is their to discuss?
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27/01/2021 17:41:01 5 12
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BBC senses another opportunity to find something wrong in our approach to the pandemic!
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27/01/2021 18:08:55 3 3
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THE TRUTH

we can't discuss the truth.
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27/01/2021 18:31:10 0 1
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Ditto.
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27/01/2021 18:52:59 0 2
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Best reply ever.
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27/01/2021 22:27:25 0 0
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I think the answer bpmkent is loking for, expecting, and will get is "No." because that's the answer.
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27/01/2021 15:07:09 13 41
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So basically nothing that the vast majority of people would call serious or dangerous.
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27/01/2021 15:21:01 50 7
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Don't be such a muppet. These are the symptoms that indicate the disease, not the full extent of it!
You wouldn't worry about a few spots on your face... until it turned out to be smallpox.
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27/01/2021 15:37:33 16 4
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Except the inconvenient "death" thing I suppose
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27/01/2021 15:53:09 4 4
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Most people make judgement based on the evidence
Pity you don't
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27/01/2021 16:05:09 5 4
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can think of 100,000 reasons to call it serious or dangerous.
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27/01/2021 15:07:39 12 14
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Cough, fatigue, headache, sore throat... I used to get that after a late night out. Suddenly I miss hangovers.
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27/01/2021 15:11:16 15 76
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The common cold then but another excuse for the governments to lock up the population

The most worrying symptom of all is the population have just accepted being locked up
Hope you don't get it and suffer badly then..@rse Removed
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27/01/2021 15:37:42 15 3
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You really think you're clever don't you? You're not.
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27/01/2021 15:44:27 19 3
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If you had had it yourself, you would not equate it to the common cold. This is frankly an insult to everyone who has lost loved ones and to those who have been or still are really ill.
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27/01/2021 16:02:56 4 3
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100,000 dead you pilock.
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27/01/2021 16:07:25 6 3
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Don't be so idiotic, this is a public health crisis. It's people like you that have got us where we are now.
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27/01/2021 15:12:28 24 13
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Symptoms don't really matter, its how deadly it is and how less effective the vaccine is.

Given the country is still open for importing more new variants that can easily mutate in many ways that could effect the vaccine, its just plain stupidity.
No one can say how these are going to pan out to a couple of months down the line, so why take the unnecessary risk?
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27/01/2021 15:20:01 25 18
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How can importing new variants effect the vaccine? 'Affect' the vaccine would make more sense.
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27/01/2021 15:35:51 6 1
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Symptoms do matter. Its one way of recognising that one is infected.
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27/01/2021 17:08:01 2 2
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Actually symptoms DO matter as unless you recognise that you MAY have Covid you're not going to get a test. Without a test you're more likely to spread it & less likely to take the right action to protect yourself & others.

We all need to be aware of the whole range of symptoms AND what to do if we have the virus & when to call 999.

To adapt the old AIDS slogan:
Covid - don't die of ignorance.
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27/01/2021 15:06:35 142 43
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Is there any answer that would satisfy you?
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27/01/2021 15:16:00 23 10
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The story is about an analysis part of a long term study? its a statement? what is their to discuss?
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27/01/2021 16:21:11 10 6
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There
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27/01/2021 17:50:55 1 2
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The reason for the HYS clearly.
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27/01/2021 15:12:28 24 13
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Symptoms don't really matter, its how deadly it is and how less effective the vaccine is.

Given the country is still open for importing more new variants that can easily mutate in many ways that could effect the vaccine, its just plain stupidity.
No one can say how these are going to pan out to a couple of months down the line, so why take the unnecessary risk?
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27/01/2021 15:20:01 25 18
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How can importing new variants effect the vaccine? 'Affect' the vaccine would make more sense.
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27/01/2021 15:36:47 0 2
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Perhaps he means the new strains affect the efficacy of the vaccine.
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27/01/2021 16:12:43 2 3
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perhaps they might trigger the vaccine to multiply. Then it would be effected.
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27/01/2021 20:26:23 0 0
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Neither is probably accurate, as far as I am aware the vaccine is not going to be affected or effected by any variation of the virus, but it may prove to be more effective or less effective as a prevention for a new variation.
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27/01/2021 15:07:09 13 41
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So basically nothing that the vast majority of people would call serious or dangerous.
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27/01/2021 15:21:01 50 7
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Don't be such a muppet. These are the symptoms that indicate the disease, not the full extent of it!
You wouldn't worry about a few spots on your face... until it turned out to be smallpox.
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27/01/2021 15:58:28 4 6
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I am presuming you are someone who hasn’t actually had Covid 19 many of us have and didn’t die or require NHS treatment. Population of 70million and 100,000 deaths reported “with” Covid not from Covid.
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27/01/2021 16:23:02 1 2
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% of population and age affected, I assume you are on furlough and will be whining for a holiday soon.
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27/01/2021 15:21:30 12 14
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Small percentage differences in symptoms between those with original virus and the tiny sample with the new variant. Hardly newsworthy, certainly not worthy of HYS
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27/01/2021 15:34:27 21 3
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And yet here you are, lol
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27/01/2021 15:11:16 15 76
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The common cold then but another excuse for the governments to lock up the population

The most worrying symptom of all is the population have just accepted being locked up
Hope you don't get it and suffer badly then..@rse Removed
Being rude and offensive is unacceptable and duly reported. Had it, feel fine went out and spread it to as many as possible. Happy days flue and minor cold all gone. Off to illegal restaurant tonight. Open since 23 March. The, he and up yours to those who accept this Removed
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27/01/2021 15:04:06 26 41
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There's a large increase in drug deaths & suicides in the States also. Part of that was enabled by Covid relief income which was used to purchase more drugs.
My children lost one of their classmates that way during the summer.
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27/01/2021 15:27:26 7 3
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Prohibition clearly working..
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27/01/2021 15:27:53 19 7
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Meanwhile, early evidence from Sweden indicates that the Hancock strain may not be any more transmissible:

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/nya-varianter-av-sars-cov-2/

Whilst research in The Netherlands indicates it may only be 6% more transmissible.

Hopefully, this research is correct.
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27/01/2021 18:56:52 4 0
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Thanks for posting a useful comment, the first I've seen on here today.
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27/01/2021 15:28:55 38 12
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Every time a new symptom is added to the list my Wife freaks out thinking she must have had Covid sometime over the past 10 months
Wouldn't that be a good thing if she had?? Removed
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27/01/2021 19:32:09 1 0
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Is your comment like "asking for a friend"?
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27/01/2021 22:26:04 2 0
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Why does she freak out, if she has had it within the last ten months she is less likely to catch it now than those who haven't had it. You should point that out.
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28/01/2021 03:42:44 1 0
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I feel your pain, my mum is a classic hypochondriac too. We don't hear the end of it for 2 weeks every time she reads something new about covid like this. Ergo, we never hear the end of it
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27/01/2021 15:30:55 496 62
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Not sure why the scientists don't just ask some of the posters on here rather than undergo lengthy investigations.
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27/01/2021 15:46:50 143 495
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to express that opinion, science doesn't always get it right.

Thalidomide anyone ?
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27/01/2021 15:59:16 17 127
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Science is nothing more than the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.
Read any history of science if you doubt this.
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27/01/2021 17:03:34 1 7
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Interesting reports science communication coming out. They seem to be based on the assumptions that if only science was communicated correctly, if only there was no mis/dis-information & if only the people receiving the science thought about it correctly, then everyone would follow exactly what science dictated...but would we?

Is a scientifically, data-driven optimised life a “good life”?

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27/01/2021 17:47:40 0 6
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because some of the posters here are not biased or dependent on the gov't for their budget?
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27/01/2021 18:21:11 0 0
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Rather a puerile comment, methinks.
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27/01/2021 18:21:22 1 0
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Scientists aren't a thing - the dumming down is complete

This was a virologist people
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27/01/2021 18:24:45 0 0
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Everyone is guessing, so why not?
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27/01/2021 14:59:27 18 43
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Time to stop all this nonsense.

Only Sweden have handled this virus well. No compulsory masks, no compulsory lockdown. Economy, shops, cafes, bars all still open. And they have fared no worse than anyone else.

(Granted even there they messed up terribly in the early days by not "locking down" the Old Folks homes. But that aside... they've done no worse than anyone else).
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27/01/2021 15:31:56 13 4
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Sweden had a higher Death rate than their Nordic peers and a bigger fall in their Economy. On two major counts they did fair worse. (However disgustingly for the UK Gov they did better than the UK on both counts) BTW they have passed lockdown laws over the weekend as yet not used.
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27/01/2021 15:21:30 12 14
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Small percentage differences in symptoms between those with original virus and the tiny sample with the new variant. Hardly newsworthy, certainly not worthy of HYS
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27/01/2021 15:34:27 21 3
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And yet here you are, lol
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27/01/2021 14:58:43 150 96
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The biggest virus killer in Scotland has been the SNP and Sturgeon's staggeringly inept handling of this pandemic and being responsible for the highest Care Home deaths in the UK.

Let's also add the highest drug related deaths per head of population in the developed world.
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27/01/2021 15:35:24 11 6
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Not even close. Per head of population, there are more overdoses in North America from opioids alone than all drugs combined in the UK.
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27/01/2021 15:12:28 24 13
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Symptoms don't really matter, its how deadly it is and how less effective the vaccine is.

Given the country is still open for importing more new variants that can easily mutate in many ways that could effect the vaccine, its just plain stupidity.
No one can say how these are going to pan out to a couple of months down the line, so why take the unnecessary risk?
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27/01/2021 15:35:51 6 1
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Symptoms do matter. Its one way of recognising that one is infected.
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27/01/2021 15:20:01 25 18
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How can importing new variants effect the vaccine? 'Affect' the vaccine would make more sense.
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27/01/2021 15:36:47 0 2
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Perhaps he means the new strains affect the efficacy of the vaccine.
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27/01/2021 15:28:55 38 12
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Every time a new symptom is added to the list my Wife freaks out thinking she must have had Covid sometime over the past 10 months
Wouldn't that be a good thing if she had?? Removed
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27/01/2021 15:37:22 20 24
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Good to see astrazeneca telling the EU to do one. Couldn't have done that 2 years ago
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27/01/2021 17:05:06 1 1
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Have they? U haven't read that.
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27/01/2021 15:07:09 13 41
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So basically nothing that the vast majority of people would call serious or dangerous.
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27/01/2021 15:37:33 16 4
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Except the inconvenient "death" thing I suppose
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27/01/2021 15:52:17 8 4
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And various serious long-term effects suffered by a significant minority of survivors, including lasting respriratory, cardiovascular and neurological damage, organ failure, amputations...
And if none of that worries you, your hair might fall out.
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27/01/2021 15:11:16 15 76
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The common cold then but another excuse for the governments to lock up the population

The most worrying symptom of all is the population have just accepted being locked up
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27/01/2021 15:37:42 15 3
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You really think you're clever don't you? You're not.
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27/01/2021 15:38:01 74 23
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Other symptoms may include an intense feeling of loneliness, anxiety, depression, hopelessness, impending doom, etc.................!
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27/01/2021 15:44:26 42 14
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We are human, we adapt and overcome
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27/01/2021 15:47:00 2 5
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that's sounds like a heart attack...i would get that checked out
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27/01/2021 22:12:35 1 0
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It isn't nice for us but hundreds of millions around the world are in a far worse situation dealing with this, we all have a safe, warm home and food + water whenever we want to get through this with.

People working in the NHS or with existing mental health issues I understand, but any average person suddenly claiming to have those things you mention needs to grow a spine + get some perspective.
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27/01/2021 15:38:12 39 28
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When people here go on about Govt handling affecting the severity of the pandemic, they do so out of ignorance as it is speculation. The only way to deliver empirical evidence is to compare 2 events with all the other variables excluded. In other words we would need to rerun the pandemic and only change the Govt policies to compare the results. That is why it is always couched in vague terms
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27/01/2021 16:03:27 26 18
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The governments ignoring of the results/recommendations of Operation Cygnus was a gross dereliction of duty motivated by a short term-ism approach to spending cuts. Even Govt sympathetic media has pointed this out a number of times e.g. Sunday Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/28/exercise-cygnus-uncovered-pandemic-warnings-buried-government/
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27/01/2021 16:38:31 9 3
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Nice try at a get out clause, but it doesn't wash I'm afraid. The government had made huge mistakes and needs to be held responsible, that is clear to everyone except the most deluded and indoctrinated.
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27/01/2021 16:58:59 5 2
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Errrrr... what!?

No one can be liable for negligence because it's only so easy to call it negligence in hindsight?
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27/01/2021 17:00:58 9 1
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True! When you take a medicine & the doc asks you if it's working, I tend to say, 'I don't know, because I haven't got a clone to act as a control to see how I'd be getting on without the medicine!'

But I think we can be fairly confident saying the gvt should have acted faster & smarter, eg by requiring compulsory quarantine for all incoming air & sea passengers. It's worked well elsewhere.
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27/01/2021 17:12:13 8 1
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It really isn't. By way of example, I don't need to go to a period without a lockdown, and rerun it with a lockdown, to know that the lockdown would reduce cases.

Equally, from the results of countries that are similar to the UK in key characteristics but took a different approach to lockdown, we can see that locking down hard and fast is optimal. We can also see that test and trace matters.
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27/01/2021 17:45:48 1 1
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That invalidates the results reported in the article. The 3500 and 2500 might have been different ages, in different parts of the country, been taking different medication prior to reporting symptoms. If you have to keep everything the same you cannot compare excess deaths in 2019 with 2020 because they were different people who died in different circumstances.
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27/01/2021 15:37:22 52 23
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i beg to differ about symptoms. i only had a runny nose, and a headache, went for a test, came back positive 48 hours later. Most definitely caught it a the supermarket!! Hadn't been anywhere else!!!
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Agreed. I had headache and sinus pain! Zero sense of smell and that's still the same 6 weeks later
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27/01/2021 15:48:35 13 1
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This article is about the new variant - surely you may have just caught the old variant? Furthermore, this article only says these symptoms are more likely - they're not all 100% going to be there.
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27/01/2021 15:53:12 14 2
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Your symptoms will be idiosyncratic; the report is not about your symptoms but the spread of symptoms amongst the 6000 people with the virus that were studied.
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27/01/2021 17:39:17 4 6
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What did you say to the testers to get a test without having had a cough, temperature, or loss of taste / smell? You would not be eligible for a test unless you had covid symptoms or lied about it.
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27/01/2021 20:09:27 0 5
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There are stories (stories... I have no confirmation) of people claiming they had more than one test and the seemed just random positive/negative... Guess the civil servants have been buying crap tests as they bought crap ppe. Making sure that it what they buy isnt British is all they care about, they ALL hate Britain
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27/01/2021 20:47:51 1 2
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Not meant to be contentious but we have been catching colds which are apparently also a virus for many many years and even from just being cold wet etc . Can we be sure that we are catching this from going to the supermarket etc.
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27/01/2021 21:47:12 1 0
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Congratulations (I presume you only posted this to get either sympathy or glorify your situation?). Go to bed, keep hydrated and sleep. What is this Covid glorification that is going on. Why did you go for a test. I just do not get it?
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27/01/2021 15:41:14 4 12
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Reminds me of Cnut and the tide. Best we learn to live with it.
Is Boris Cnut ? Removed
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27/01/2021 15:44:40 5 4
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"Live with it"? Are you trying to be funny or what? It's killing people!
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27/01/2021 15:41:22 4 9
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So really the % are massively different and tells us nothing new. Another great story beeb.
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*aren't ??
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The biggest virus killer in Scotland has been the SNP and Sturgeon's staggeringly inept handling of this pandemic and being responsible for the highest Care Home deaths in the UK.

Let's also add the highest drug related deaths per head of population in the developed world.
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27/01/2021 15:40:02 26 8
bbc
Agreed, her only interest is to constantly, boringly slag off England..
57
27/01/2021 15:49:13 5 12
bbc
Doesn't everyone! Wonder why?
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MrB
27/01/2021 15:41:14 4 12
bbc
Reminds me of Cnut and the tide. Best we learn to live with it.
Is Boris Cnut ? Removed
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27/01/2021 15:41:22 4 9
bbc
So really the % are massively different and tells us nothing new. Another great story beeb.
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27/01/2021 15:43:29 2 3
bbc
*aren't ??
29
27/01/2021 15:38:01 74 23
bbc
Other symptoms may include an intense feeling of loneliness, anxiety, depression, hopelessness, impending doom, etc.................!
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27/01/2021 15:44:26 42 14
bbc
We are human, we adapt and overcome
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27/01/2021 16:00:37 6 4
bbc
“We are human, we adapt and overcome”

—-

That takes a long time.

The human species will change in time because it mutates and we get survival of the fittest, but an individual human being doesn’t adapt in that way - individually we live only if we can survive the virus.
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Ray
28/01/2021 00:48:54 0 0
bbc
...... as do all viruses - and they do it a darn sight quicker.
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27/01/2021 15:37:22 52 23
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i beg to differ about symptoms. i only had a runny nose, and a headache, went for a test, came back positive 48 hours later. Most definitely caught it a the supermarket!! Hadn't been anywhere else!!!
39
27/01/2021 15:44:26 9 13
bbc
Agreed. I had headache and sinus pain! Zero sense of smell and that's still the same 6 weeks later
785
27/01/2021 21:35:26 0 0
bbc
oh dear I've got sinus pain, and aches and pains in arms and neck and shoulders
28/01/2021 07:35:11 1 0
bbc
Weird. I had headaches and sinus pains. Got antibiotics. Sinusitis. Not every illness is covid.
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MrB
27/01/2021 15:41:14 4 12
bbc
Reminds me of Cnut and the tide. Best we learn to live with it.
40
27/01/2021 15:44:40 5 4
bbc
"Live with it"? Are you trying to be funny or what? It's killing people!
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27/01/2021 15:50:34 4 1
bbc
At some point I fear we will have to learn to live with what will become an acceptable death rate. Flu kills 10000`s in a bad year. car`s kill around 3.5k in the UK most years. If the excess deaths from Covid is 20% as suggested this is in my view to high. I don`t have an answer or proposal for the acceptable levels.
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27/01/2021 15:46:19 5 13
bbc
So....basically like any other congestive illness
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27/01/2021 16:06:44 4 2
bbc
Noooo. Most congestive illnesses do not cause blood clots on the lungs, brain, kidneys, heart attacks, gangrene. 100,000 ( and counting) do not die of congestive illnesses each year. Get real.
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27/01/2021 15:46:24 79 13
bbc
New variants were always a possibility and seem to be coming to prominence just as we have a vaccine.The sensible thing is to follow the advice and try not to get either.
And weaken the immune systems of the vast majority of people who are at no risk from this cold virus. Removed
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27/01/2021 18:46:12 1 0
bbc
Hopefully you mean either variant, not "either the variant or the vaccine".
28/01/2021 17:38:31 0 0
bbc
coming to prominence is just because we are doing more testing./ They noticed this one in September, probably one of many, were the others fizzeled out
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27/01/2021 15:11:16 15 76
bbc
The common cold then but another excuse for the governments to lock up the population

The most worrying symptom of all is the population have just accepted being locked up
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27/01/2021 15:44:27 19 3
bbc
If you had had it yourself, you would not equate it to the common cold. This is frankly an insult to everyone who has lost loved ones and to those who have been or still are really ill.
19
27/01/2021 15:30:55 496 62
bbc
Not sure why the scientists don't just ask some of the posters on here rather than undergo lengthy investigations.
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27/01/2021 15:46:50 143 495
bbc
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to express that opinion, science doesn't always get it right.

Thalidomide anyone ?
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27/01/2021 15:52:38 31 122
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There is nothing scientific about balancing death for a small number against the inflicted misery on thousands of people for the potential to carry a virus .
82
27/01/2021 15:59:35 69 7
bbc
And everyone's opinion on HYS is right as they all know best
135
27/01/2021 16:12:56 14 60
bbc
Asbestos?
166
27/01/2021 16:28:10 135 25
bbc
Thalidomide was a drug this is a vaccine. Try researching the difference. You are one of the foolish vaccine deniers.
171
27/01/2021 16:32:05 17 13
bbc
The opioid crisis is a more recent and undereported example.
183
27/01/2021 16:37:18 98 3
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Thalidomide. Still in use as a successful drug for certain cancers and skin conditions though obviously not where the patient is pregnant.
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27/01/2021 16:41:38 107 6
bbc
Opinions are not scientific data. Science is about observable, testable, repeatable, then peer review and consensus. Opinions are about what you happen to think today based on a narrow set of assumptions.
199
27/01/2021 16:42:57 8 10
bbc
Give a drug for something it was not intended for now we know it is not a good idea lesson learnt medicine is stronger because of it.
201
27/01/2021 16:43:48 13 1
bbc
I'll take your vaccine.
220
27/01/2021 16:51:24 9 5
bbc
Where's Karen when you need her?
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27/01/2021 17:31:30 10 1
bbc
You're entitled to an opinion - on something you're qualified by a sufficient depth of knowledge to opine about. But the incontinent splashing around of ill-informed prejudice that you'd like to pass off as 'opinion'....No, you're not entitled to that.

The entitlement society, fostered over the last 30 or so years by telling children they are perfect & can do no wrong has a lot to answer for.
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27/01/2021 17:38:20 12 1
bbc
Missed the point. No-one ever claimed science always gets it right: but I think we may agree that science gets it right much, much more than your average punter on social media. But by all means express your opinion.

Disclaimer: I am a research scientist - and believe me, I know orders of magnitude more than you do about my area of expertise.
355
27/01/2021 17:42:38 0 7
bbc
BSE/vCJD is another good example.

For more than a decade the scientists said "it's completely unrelated to feeding extract of goat to cows, and it doesn't look anything like scrapie"... then to everyone surpise it turned out they'd invented a brand new human disease called vCJD... and it was all about feeding extract of goat to cows. And again no one was held to account... "government" see.
361
27/01/2021 17:43:59 1 1
bbc
That wasnt opinion
363
27/01/2021 17:45:05 8 1
bbc
We are lucky that when we all become seriously unwell, as is certain in life, we have Doctors, Nurses and Scientists to help us, as they have helped billions before us.

I expect that when you become seriously ill, you will not be a hypocrite and crawl straight into a nearest cave to see how effective your 'opinion' will be in saving you.
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27/01/2021 17:50:45 5 1
bbc
You do understand that Thalidomide was produced long before regulators (an EU legislation) were ever established don't you? or are you just being predictable brixiteerish on this important subject?
402
27/01/2021 17:53:00 0 1
bbc
That was 50 years ago. Things have moved on since then.
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You
27/01/2021 18:24:22 3 0
bbc
The key point is that science is 99.999% correct. Duffers like yourself are more like 0.00001% correct. But yes, you do get your opinion.
29
27/01/2021 15:38:01 74 23
bbc
Other symptoms may include an intense feeling of loneliness, anxiety, depression, hopelessness, impending doom, etc.................!
45
27/01/2021 15:47:00 2 5
bbc
that's sounds like a heart attack...i would get that checked out
46
27/01/2021 15:47:07 46 23
bbc
Things went better with the two metre rule and then masks appeared and everyone stopped distancing and started playing with their masks rendering them useless.
So blame the government even though the old saying applies,
You cant help people that wont help themselves.
This Article is about recognising the symptoms and getting a test.
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27/01/2021 15:54:20 82 14
bbc
Two metres AND masks AND washing your hands.

That’s the advice.
47
27/01/2021 15:47:31 2 5
bbc
They are clueless.
48
27/01/2021 15:48:06 2 8
bbc
Whatever
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27/01/2021 14:59:27 18 43
bbc
Time to stop all this nonsense.

Only Sweden have handled this virus well. No compulsory masks, no compulsory lockdown. Economy, shops, cafes, bars all still open. And they have fared no worse than anyone else.

(Granted even there they messed up terribly in the early days by not "locking down" the Old Folks homes. But that aside... they've done no worse than anyone else).
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27/01/2021 15:48:33 10 3
bbc
It's not reasonable to compare Sweden to the UK, their population density is less than one tenth of ours (25 per sq km vs 275 per sq km (and 430 for England)) and they have far fewer people entering the country than we do.
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27/01/2021 16:00:59 5 2
bbc
Thank you for reply I feel you are partly right. But most of the population live within towns and City's. The forest of which there is much and the north no one really lives there. So the population density is lower only on paper. Their standoffish culture might be another key factor and they are a heathier nation (lower obesity ect) I see now the UK comparison is not fair.
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27/01/2021 15:37:22 52 23
bbc
i beg to differ about symptoms. i only had a runny nose, and a headache, went for a test, came back positive 48 hours later. Most definitely caught it a the supermarket!! Hadn't been anywhere else!!!
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27/01/2021 15:48:35 13 1
bbc
This article is about the new variant - surely you may have just caught the old variant? Furthermore, this article only says these symptoms are more likely - they're not all 100% going to be there.
51
27/01/2021 15:49:12 6 7
bbc
i expect the bbc newscaster to have an albatross on her shoulder as she gives tonights broadcast
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27/01/2021 15:49:18 7 6
bbc
Well done BBC! At last a reasonable report of an interesting piece of research without any ludicrous conclusions being foisted upon us.
you see, you can do it if you try!
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27/01/2021 15:49:35 6 17
bbc
I stopped trusting the tests a long time back when i got a false posotive (isolated for 5 days) and while waiting on my 2nd test it said negative then i got another email to say it was inconculsive due to external contamination!!?

They can manipulate the tests like any others, so a bit in doubt about it.
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27/01/2021 15:44:40 5 4
bbc
"Live with it"? Are you trying to be funny or what? It's killing people!
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27/01/2021 15:50:34 4 1
bbc
At some point I fear we will have to learn to live with what will become an acceptable death rate. Flu kills 10000`s in a bad year. car`s kill around 3.5k in the UK most years. If the excess deaths from Covid is 20% as suggested this is in my view to high. I don`t have an answer or proposal for the acceptable levels.
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Rik
27/01/2021 15:51:37 14 18
bbc
How many migrants illegally crossed the channel in small boats last year, illegally entered or tried to enter the country. How many were not intercepted and landed without quarantine.Which county were most of them heading for, was the kent variant here before they arrived?, were the arrivals tested and what was the results.
72
27/01/2021 15:56:46 8 1
bbc
Actually Kent had the virus fully under control and didn't want any restrictions.
Got that wrong for all of us didn't they.
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27/01/2021 15:58:52 1 1
bbc
Worth noting that Kent also happens to be where the majority of the legal shipments in to the UK come in to the country. Possbly contaminated produce, or infected transport staff.
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27/01/2021 16:10:59 2 1
bbc
If it started in Kent then should it not be called the French variant given the number of illegals allowed out of France. Ask Macron and his cronies.
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27/01/2021 16:11:09 3 1
bbc
how many idiot citizens behaving like Covid is a myth?
Hope you don't get it and suffer badly then..@rse Removed
Being rude and offensive is unacceptable and duly reported. Had it, feel fine went out and spread it to as many as possible. Happy days flue and minor cold all gone. Off to illegal restaurant tonight. Open since 23 March. The, he and up yours to those who accept this Removed
78
27/01/2021 15:59:08 0 2
bbc
Try not choke on your food eh?
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27/01/2021 15:40:02 26 8
bbc
Agreed, her only interest is to constantly, boringly slag off England..
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27/01/2021 15:49:13 5 12
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Doesn't everyone! Wonder why?
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27/01/2021 16:19:58 5 4
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Jealousy? Petty-mindedness? Napoleon complex?
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27/01/2021 15:51:48 277 35
bbc
Difference is so small I’d say this report is misleading in the extreme and pointless.

Please stop basing headlines on studies where difference between one state and another is literally 1 or 2 percent.
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27/01/2021 16:54:57 74 39
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Yeah, it's interesting comparing the BBC's uncritical, caveat-free coverage of this with how they went after the Government a while ago for saying that the new variant might be more deadly - something that both had stronger evidence and was much more important. Unsurprising, but interesting.
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27/01/2021 16:59:21 15 1
bbc
The headline should really be "slightly more common". The take-away is still that none of these individual symptoms is experienced by more than about a third of those who test positive (let alone those who are asymptomatic and don't get tested at all). Just because you don't have a cough, fatigue, sore throat or muscle aches, doesn't mean you don't have Covid.
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27/01/2021 17:13:58 13 3
bbc
35-28 is actually 7% - or put another way, you are 1.25* (35% / 28%) more likely to have a cough with the new variant.
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27/01/2021 17:24:31 10 3
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Says someone that obviously doesn't understand percentages!!!
you understand that if something kill 1% then of 1million people 10,000 would die, if it was 2% 20,000, can you see the big difference between 1 and 2 % when it's of a larger number!!!!
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27/01/2021 17:47:17 6 5
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Is your real issue the BBC or media in general - as all the others will carry the same stuff, just worded differently to say the same thing... maybe its not brazen enough - or wound up in jingo n jargon to hide any info
745
27/01/2021 20:52:59 6 2
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Yeah 1 or 2 percent is inconsequential just like the referendum result. Oh no, we changed our whole ruddy future on that
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28/01/2021 00:23:55 1 0
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Old variant: 28 per hundred had a cough. New variant: 35 per hundred had a cough. 35 people is 25% more than 28 people, which is not "literally 1 or 2 percent", is it?
28/01/2021 07:36:45 1 0
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It would be important to you if you were in that 2%
28/01/2021 12:47:56 0 0
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1/2% is 10/20 people per thousand. That's not insignificant if you have a hundered thousand infected. And the ONS estimate that we have over 1.1m infected although that is not all new strains.
28/01/2021 17:30:29 0 0
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Its a factual report, but is for any individual of no value.
It wont tell me or any one eles that they have one version or the other! That would only be the case if with one variant 100% lost taste and with the other 0%
28/01/2021 19:03:34 0 0
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Such numbers will, in the scientific literature, be quoted with a confidence level, which represents the probability that the result obtained did not occur by chance.
This is often 95% - ie, the likelihood of the result being by chance is only 5%.
This is done by a thorough statistical and verified analysis, not "finger in the air" guesswork.
As always, go back to the source material...
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27/01/2021 15:37:33 16 4
bbc
Except the inconvenient "death" thing I suppose
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27/01/2021 15:52:17 8 4
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And various serious long-term effects suffered by a significant minority of survivors, including lasting respriratory, cardiovascular and neurological damage, organ failure, amputations...
And if none of that worries you, your hair might fall out.
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27/01/2021 15:46:50 143 495
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to express that opinion, science doesn't always get it right.

Thalidomide anyone ?
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27/01/2021 15:52:38 31 122
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There is nothing scientific about balancing death for a small number against the inflicted misery on thousands of people for the potential to carry a virus .
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27/01/2021 16:21:45 57 50
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Misery? Staying at home, wearing a mask, social distancing, hand hygiene - oh yes, misery beyond bearing. Go and have a drink - oh, I forgot, it's such an abominable thing that you just can't go to the pub.
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27/01/2021 16:47:09 33 5
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Do we have an unlimited amount of hospital beds and staff to treat the very sick? The restrictions are more about preventing our NHS from being overwhelmed, it's not difficult to see what that would mean. And how on earth can you call the 100k+ people who have lost their lives to this virus in this country alone a small number? 1700+ people in the last 24 hours, just think about that!
349
27/01/2021 17:40:43 9 2
bbc
There's your problem right there: if you do not take measures to control the spread of the virus and protect the vulnerable, then the deaths become not just "for a small number".
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You
27/01/2021 17:57:02 5 1
bbc
Poor you. Not being able to go to the pub is more impoortant than people's lives and the NHS. Personally, I'd ship people like you out of the country and not let you back in.
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27/01/2021 15:52:57 13 15
bbc
The evidence that the 'UK strain' is more communicable is flimsy at best. They should name it the Scapegoat strain. Was it Govt. incompetence... "NOOO! it was a new strain that done us!" Absolute cobblers... try reading the ACTAUL stats/evidence of the strain.

Shame on the BBC for not being as skeptical as it should be and for continuing to peddle this utter BS.
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27/01/2021 16:04:09 3 5
bbc
UK strain is a crockk of lying doodoo made up to scare. Why aren't people chasing the Chinese over their insisitence that it came from somewhere else now that they have had a year to clean up their mess.
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27/01/2021 16:44:22 0 1
bbc
Mate. You are spot on with that. The strain was spotted in September, yet not announced til November. 100% used by the governement to cover up their incompetence and mistakes, e.g. Ineffective second lockdown, and letting the virus spread in schools.
Apparently if you have the new Brazilian strain you become really thin and hairy. Removed
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27/01/2021 15:57:11 0 1
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How very rude, but actually quite funny. Could call it a Cohican....
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27/01/2021 15:07:09 13 41
bbc
So basically nothing that the vast majority of people would call serious or dangerous.
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Pam
27/01/2021 15:53:09 4 4
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Most people make judgement based on the evidence
Pity you don't
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27/01/2021 15:37:22 52 23
bbc
i beg to differ about symptoms. i only had a runny nose, and a headache, went for a test, came back positive 48 hours later. Most definitely caught it a the supermarket!! Hadn't been anywhere else!!!
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27/01/2021 15:53:12 14 2
bbc
Your symptoms will be idiosyncratic; the report is not about your symptoms but the spread of symptoms amongst the 6000 people with the virus that were studied.
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27/01/2021 15:53:16 17 16
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Ironically I've got fatigue...

It's bad enough having to be under house arrest, but the endless Groundhog Day coverage of how we're all going to die of this virus is, well...

Sigh...
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27/01/2021 16:02:24 6 21
bbc
Where are all the 'Civil Rights' lawyers now that every citizen in the UK is now being denied their rights to a normal family life and being imprisoned in their own homes. Obviously Cheri Blair et al don't see this as an issue.
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27/01/2021 15:53:18 117 15
bbc
“More common” by couple of percent. Pointless report and article to be published.
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27/01/2021 16:55:14 21 46
bbc
Wrong - it's a vital piece of information. Other studies seem to be pointing the same way too. It was recognised early on that the Canterbury variant seems to be producing different symptoms, though at that time they thought they were confined to children. NHS needs to update its advice urgently.
356
27/01/2021 17:42:45 0 2
bbc
Far less than the accepted margin of error in such a study
994
28/01/2021 07:17:59 0 0
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Scientists get paid for writing reports, even on how to correctly make a cup of tea or boil an egg. They think we're all simpletons
28/01/2021 17:33:59 0 0
bbc
The article is factual, its most of the comments that are pointless
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27/01/2021 15:53:33 2 4
bbc
That is exactly the symptoms I had on 27th March.
No loss of taste or smell and no temperature
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nax
27/01/2021 16:09:03 0 1
bbc
convinced I had it this time last year, temperature, sore throat, aches and pains, fatigue, headache, loss of smell and a constant cough which lasted over 3 weeks. Never ill but this put me in bed for 10 days and thought I was never going to recover.
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27/01/2021 14:58:43 150 96
bbc
The biggest virus killer in Scotland has been the SNP and Sturgeon's staggeringly inept handling of this pandemic and being responsible for the highest Care Home deaths in the UK.

Let's also add the highest drug related deaths per head of population in the developed world.
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27/01/2021 15:54:16 14 5
bbc
Significantly lower death rate than England and Wales
69
27/01/2021 15:54:17 3 7
bbc
When are they going to build a big high wall to keep out the virus?
Put it all around the outside of the UK and it will stop coastal erosion as well.
Maybe we need a clear plastic dome as well, made out of recycled plastic of course
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:04:22 0 1
bbc
Couldn't get Mexico to pay for it.
70
27/01/2021 15:54:19 5 4
bbc
Had the majority of the symptoms back in March 2020, couldn't get a test, but wiped me out for 2 weeks, and still pretty knackered now. So don't know if I had it, socially isolated from the wife and kids, who had no symptoms, but colleagues who I had worked with were also ill, and they had positive tests. Who knows, seems a bit of a lottery as to who is found to be positive, and affected.
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27/01/2021 16:08:43 3 7
bbc
If they add any more symptoms everybody has some form of the virus. Why can't they do what they are good at? Bury their heads in the sand and leave us all to get on with it. Their number crunching only serves to defeat their aims. 100000+ have not died from the virus. 100000+ people have died from all sorts of conditions and some unnecessarily.
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27/01/2021 15:47:07 46 23
bbc
Things went better with the two metre rule and then masks appeared and everyone stopped distancing and started playing with their masks rendering them useless.
So blame the government even though the old saying applies,
You cant help people that wont help themselves.
This Article is about recognising the symptoms and getting a test.
71
27/01/2021 15:54:20 82 14
bbc
Two metres AND masks AND washing your hands.

That’s the advice.
75
27/01/2021 15:57:44 3 6
bbc
20 metres if Hancock is around
141
27/01/2021 16:15:51 14 2
bbc
It still amazes me that there are a lot of people that don't know what 6ft/2m is.
174
27/01/2021 16:34:19 6 2
bbc
You will be pleased to know then that is the SAGE advice even after lockdown and vaccination
791
27/01/2021 21:42:14 2 0
bbc
If it was just advice then things could be better, but law?
852
27/01/2021 22:35:23 2 0
bbc
Why do some people find it so difficult?
55
Rik
27/01/2021 15:51:37 14 18
bbc
How many migrants illegally crossed the channel in small boats last year, illegally entered or tried to enter the country. How many were not intercepted and landed without quarantine.Which county were most of them heading for, was the kent variant here before they arrived?, were the arrivals tested and what was the results.
72
27/01/2021 15:56:46 8 1
bbc
Actually Kent had the virus fully under control and didn't want any restrictions.
Got that wrong for all of us didn't they.
73
27/01/2021 15:57:05 7 11
bbc
When are they going to admit that they have no idea and that all the scaremongering is to satisfy their egos. Any child could put the current strategy together on the back of a cornflakes packet as usually demonstrated on Blue Peter. We need to get rid of these hopeless merchants of doom and get some people with a bit of nous in charge. Eton et al do not teach nous.
88
27/01/2021 16:01:01 4 6
bbc
Yes like Sir Kier?
Who is isolating for the third time. Needs to change his mates.
Apparently if you have the new Brazilian strain you become really thin and hairy. Removed
74
27/01/2021 15:57:11 0 1
bbc
How very rude, but actually quite funny. Could call it a Cohican....
71
27/01/2021 15:54:20 82 14
bbc
Two metres AND masks AND washing your hands.

That’s the advice.
75
27/01/2021 15:57:44 3 6
bbc
20 metres if Hancock is around
13
27/01/2021 15:21:01 50 7
bbc
Don't be such a muppet. These are the symptoms that indicate the disease, not the full extent of it!
You wouldn't worry about a few spots on your face... until it turned out to be smallpox.
76
27/01/2021 15:58:28 4 6
bbc
I am presuming you are someone who hasn’t actually had Covid 19 many of us have and didn’t die or require NHS treatment. Population of 70million and 100,000 deaths reported “with” Covid not from Covid.
55
Rik
27/01/2021 15:51:37 14 18
bbc
How many migrants illegally crossed the channel in small boats last year, illegally entered or tried to enter the country. How many were not intercepted and landed without quarantine.Which county were most of them heading for, was the kent variant here before they arrived?, were the arrivals tested and what was the results.
77
27/01/2021 15:58:52 1 1
bbc
Worth noting that Kent also happens to be where the majority of the legal shipments in to the UK come in to the country. Possbly contaminated produce, or infected transport staff.
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Rik
27/01/2021 16:04:55 0 1
bbc
Yes, possibly.
952
28/01/2021 00:06:35 0 0
bbc
A variant has to first appear somewhere. Why not Kent?
You really have to stop blaming Johnny Foreigner for everything.
Being rude and offensive is unacceptable and duly reported. Had it, feel fine went out and spread it to as many as possible. Happy days flue and minor cold all gone. Off to illegal restaurant tonight. Open since 23 March. The, he and up yours to those who accept this Removed
78
27/01/2021 15:59:08 0 2
bbc
Try not choke on your food eh?
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27/01/2021 15:30:55 496 62
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Not sure why the scientists don't just ask some of the posters on here rather than undergo lengthy investigations.
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27/01/2021 15:59:16 17 127
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Science is nothing more than the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.
Read any history of science if you doubt this.
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27/01/2021 16:08:54 119 11
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It beats religion hands down as science doesn't claim to be immutable, it always comes with the caveat, based on our current understanding.
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27/01/2021 16:52:46 16 2
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Based on that stupid comment, I question if you can in fact read.
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27/01/2021 17:22:43 7 1
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"Science is nothing more than the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind."

So you agree it can see better than others options such as religion, good. In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed made is king!
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27/01/2021 17:45:47 12 1
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... says the person typing into an astoundingly sophisticated device which relays their "thoughts" around the globe in milliseconds - thanks to science.

In other words: poppycock.

Disclaimer: I have not only read extensively on the history of science - I am a scientist. You might try reading some histories of the pre-scientific world. You wouldn't want to get ill there.
80
27/01/2021 15:59:28 1 2
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Feel sorry for the golfers; who would they detect a loss in taste?
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:03:17 0 2
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Have you seen how they dress?
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27/01/2021 15:59:29 3 10
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Normal flu then.
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:02:42 11 3
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Correct.

Apart from the dying bit.

And the risk of long term health issues.

And the high risk of killing other people.

Otherwise, just normal flu.
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27/01/2021 16:04:11 0 1
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Get in the sea.
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27/01/2021 16:08:41 4 3
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NO IT IS NOT. As someone who is young and healthy and still struggling to recover 4 weeks later, it is nothing like the flu. Other people I know who have had Covid are also still recovering and struggling weeks later. I have never been so ill in my life and the pain and not being able to walk at times, is not like the flu!
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27/01/2021 15:46:50 143 495
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion and free to express that opinion, science doesn't always get it right.

Thalidomide anyone ?
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27/01/2021 15:59:35 69 7
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And everyone's opinion on HYS is right as they all know best
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27/01/2021 16:54:38 2 1
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Irony
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27/01/2021 15:59:39 151 12
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Baffled as to why there is an HYS on this. It isn't a medical journal and the pool of commenters is extremely unlikely to provide knowledgeable discourse.
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27/01/2021 16:07:38 186 160
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Because the BBC wants to highlight anything which is critical of this country. They even hint at supporting Europe over the Astra Zeneca vaccine. They are truly anti anything about their own country.
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27/01/2021 16:07:11 8 7
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Maybe BBC know that too. Panic and ridicule both spread faster if you allow uninformed discussions online.
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27/01/2021 16:52:40 9 3
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True, but highlighting a possibly higher incidence of other symptoms - ie symptoms the NHS won't recognise for the purposes of testing - is important. I hope it prompts a change of approach. My wife & I had Covid & didn't have any of the official 3 symptoms, so we had to lie to get a test - it was positive. We had lots of other classic Covid symptoms, but not the 'NHS-approved' ones.
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27/01/2021 18:34:06 6 2
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So why are you here?
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27/01/2021 22:12:21 0 0
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Is that speaking statistically?
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27/01/2021 15:59:42 7 7
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The Chinese lab certainly made an excellent base product from which others may split off
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Pam
27/01/2021 16:04:33 4 4
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I am surprised the BbC allow conspiracy theories on here.
You should be ashamed.
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27/01/2021 16:00:32 56 16
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Fun Police replied:
"Being rude and offensive is unacceptable and duly reported. Had it, feel fine went out and spread it to as many as possible. Happy days flue and minor cold all gone. Off to illegal restaurant tonight. Open since 23 March. The, he and up yours to those who accept this"
//
Why don't you just say it straight that you don't mind endangering people
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27/01/2021 18:38:58 15 5
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Agree what happened to untreated flu and cold it all calls covid now and people die as they are not treated and waiting for their medical appointments
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27/01/2021 19:58:36 2 0
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I know one person who has had this. He felt shit for a whole day and right as rain the day after, test came back to confirm he had had it about 5 days later. None of his family caught it from him
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27/01/2021 15:44:26 42 14
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We are human, we adapt and overcome
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27/01/2021 16:00:37 6 4
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“We are human, we adapt and overcome”

—-

That takes a long time.

The human species will change in time because it mutates and we get survival of the fittest, but an individual human being doesn’t adapt in that way - individually we live only if we can survive the virus.
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27/01/2021 16:38:53 6 8
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I meant adapt to lockdown
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27/01/2021 15:48:33 10 3
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It's not reasonable to compare Sweden to the UK, their population density is less than one tenth of ours (25 per sq km vs 275 per sq km (and 430 for England)) and they have far fewer people entering the country than we do.
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27/01/2021 16:00:59 5 2
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Thank you for reply I feel you are partly right. But most of the population live within towns and City's. The forest of which there is much and the north no one really lives there. So the population density is lower only on paper. Their standoffish culture might be another key factor and they are a heathier nation (lower obesity ect) I see now the UK comparison is not fair.
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27/01/2021 15:57:05 7 11
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When are they going to admit that they have no idea and that all the scaremongering is to satisfy their egos. Any child could put the current strategy together on the back of a cornflakes packet as usually demonstrated on Blue Peter. We need to get rid of these hopeless merchants of doom and get some people with a bit of nous in charge. Eton et al do not teach nous.
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27/01/2021 16:01:01 4 6
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Yes like Sir Kier?
Who is isolating for the third time. Needs to change his mates.
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27/01/2021 17:47:15 0 1
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At least he's taking it seriously unlike the clown Boris & his sidekick Scummings
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27/01/2021 15:58:28 3 10
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Viruses mutate fast, treating them accelerates that.

Vaccinating was always going to lead to faster and more aggressive new variants.

We will cause our own demise.
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27/01/2021 17:43:19 0 1
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Total rubbish where is the science for this?. Throughout modern history since Jenner onwards vaccines have saved countless lives
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27/01/2021 20:29:52 0 0
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Utterly untrue! We are in a race to vaccinate so we can reduce transmission (which is why maintaining social distancing and other hygiene measures remain important) and in turn reduce mutations.
It is distinctly possible that the virus is now endemic (and therefore a global taskforce monitoring mutations and annual vaccination programmes will be necessary) but you are spreading misinformation.
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27/01/2021 16:01:17 26 16
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The EU are now demanding the Oxford/AZ vaccines made in the UK: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55822602 The EU are really coming across as feckless and spiteful.
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27/01/2021 16:06:58 10 25
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They gave the UK the supplies made in the EU.
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Pam
27/01/2021 16:01:22 239 45
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Seems there are people on here who still don't believe that the virus is that dangerous.
Try telling that to the doctors and nurses struggling to save lives
I was sister in charge of busy ITU. Never complained about hard work long hours. We struggled but not once did anyone clap for us.
Staff are now left wing activists. Nothing more.
Removed
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ike
27/01/2021 16:11:01 48 15
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Try telling that to the people who have lost a relative or close friend
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27/01/2021 16:46:38 34 12
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Or those who are ill for weeks, survive and then struggle to recover from the terrible complications of Long Covid.
Many, many of those are NHS frontline staff who are still not well enough to return to work, hence the further pressure on the NHS.
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27/01/2021 16:57:51 60 5
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Sad thing is it's not even the death that's worrying.

I was a fit, healthy, 26 year old. I'm still fatigued with breathing difficulty 10 months after getting it. (Got it just as we locked down for the first time.)

Even though I'll likely recover, it's still not worth putting people through that. Especially when I would have been in the "you'll be fine" category...
It is not dangerous Removed
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27/01/2021 17:30:15 5 1
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It's not dangerous to them as they never go outside and mix with people, instead spending all their days looking for if you say black I'll say white on the comments section of the BBC news for some attention.
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27/01/2021 17:31:29 8 3
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It is for ‘at risk’ groups, principally the elderly (like any pneumonia or flu) and those with underlying conditions, particularly if you are overweight. Sadly we are a country that has a high population of both categories, so it’s no wonder we’ve more in hospital.
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AMc
27/01/2021 18:29:48 3 1
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my god, it's worrying that at the point of writing this 18% of the 122 people have given a thumbs down to Pam's comment.

I suspect there is MORE than one born every minute!!
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27/01/2021 18:47:16 0 0
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Is breathlessness or inability to breathe properly listed above as a symptom experienced?
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27/01/2021 19:44:49 1 5
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Do you mean the UK drs and nurses who really should phone up their counterparts in any other country in the world and finding out how to save lives? I mean from the figures the NHS is the 4th worst health system in the world for saving covid lives AND are managing to kill cancer and other patients from lack of looking after them. Mind, all have been on courses so they can treat minorities.
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27/01/2021 22:19:35 1 0
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Five people know have died in the last year. None from COVID. I do not know anyone who has died from COVID. However, I am still taking care because I think the reason no one I know has died from COVID is that they are all taking care.
888
27/01/2021 22:53:51 1 3
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Well its not that dangerous quite frankly, unless you are ageing.
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27/01/2021 16:01:30 7 6
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Apparently if you have the South African variant you make a sound like a vuvuzela.
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27/01/2021 15:53:16 17 16
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Ironically I've got fatigue...

It's bad enough having to be under house arrest, but the endless Groundhog Day coverage of how we're all going to die of this virus is, well...

Sigh...
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27/01/2021 16:02:24 6 21
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Where are all the 'Civil Rights' lawyers now that every citizen in the UK is now being denied their rights to a normal family life and being imprisoned in their own homes. Obviously Cheri Blair et al don't see this as an issue.
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:10:41 10 2
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I expect it's because the same people who are banging on about their rights would also sue the NHS because there are no beds or staff available to treat them when the fall off their high horse.
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27/01/2021 18:59:18 0 0
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I suspect you meant Human Rights, but it's hardly surprising you'd make that mistake as you clearly have no idea what constitutes a right.
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27/01/2021 16:02:25 10 7
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I have fatigue of reading about the continued existence of PHE. Not fit for purpose.
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ike
27/01/2021 16:09:15 2 4
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What is PHE?
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27/01/2021 15:59:29 3 10
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Normal flu then.
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:02:42 11 3
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Correct.

Apart from the dying bit.

And the risk of long term health issues.

And the high risk of killing other people.

Otherwise, just normal flu.
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27/01/2021 16:08:43 2 3
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Plenty of people die of normal flu. 2018 - 64000. Was that headlines? No.
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27/01/2021 15:11:16 15 76
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The common cold then but another excuse for the governments to lock up the population

The most worrying symptom of all is the population have just accepted being locked up
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27/01/2021 16:02:56 4 3
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100,000 dead you pilock.
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27/01/2021 15:59:28 1 2
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Feel sorry for the golfers; who would they detect a loss in taste?
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Rob
27/01/2021 16:03:17 0 2
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Have you seen how they dress?
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27/01/2021 16:03:58 6 9
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The BBC wants a discussion on this because it fits their negative approach to everything happening in the country. They are becoming a disgrace.
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27/01/2021 15:52:57 13 15
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The evidence that the 'UK strain' is more communicable is flimsy at best. They should name it the Scapegoat strain. Was it Govt. incompetence... "NOOO! it was a new strain that done us!" Absolute cobblers... try reading the ACTAUL stats/evidence of the strain.

Shame on the BBC for not being as skeptical as it should be and for continuing to peddle this utter BS.
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27/01/2021 16:04:09 3 5
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UK strain is a crockk of lying doodoo made up to scare. Why aren't people chasing the Chinese over their insisitence that it came from somewhere else now that they have had a year to clean up their mess.
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27/01/2021 17:28:19 0 1
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At this time it's more important to find a treatment, how to stop severe symptoms, and how to stop it spreading rather than blaming anybody on where it came from
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27/01/2021 15:59:29 3 10
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Normal flu then.
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27/01/2021 16:04:11 0 1
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Get in the sea.