Boris Johnson promises plan next month for 'phased' easing of lockdown
27/01/2021 | news | politics | 4,999
The “phased” lifting of restrictions will depend on data on hospitalisations, deaths and vaccinations.
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27/01/2021 10:24:59 135 77
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Boris hasn't published any criteria for any part of this pandemic from day one, so I don't think I believe him!

A £1 says he'll find a reason not to as usual!??
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27/01/2021 10:28:47 99 113
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I wonder what it feels like to be partly responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 people. Even Bozo must be reeling...
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27/01/2021 11:44:12 12 6
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He did and people ignored it hence the high death toll.
27/01/2021 12:21:40 0 2
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A criteria for reducing restrictions during the first lockdown was published and used. Maybe if you did not immediately criticise and listened you would not break the rules.
27/01/2021 13:19:43 0 0
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
27/01/2021 13:22:06 0 0
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A £1 that you will find something to complain about no matter what he says or does.
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27/01/2021 10:25:15 89 61
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Plans should be made next month, not now.
We've no idea what things will be like in a months time.
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27/01/2021 10:27:02 91 59
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We're not asking for a timetable, but what the plans & criteria are when the time is right! Boris as usual just doesn't have a single clue!??
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27/01/2021 10:29:17 8 7
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It’s his attempt at an olive branch and this was the best he can come up with.

100,000 dead with COVID, even more excess deaths and a terrible economic performance... but don’t worry, we might relax things in a month...
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27/01/2021 10:47:25 8 1
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Not to defend the government but the plans can start being made now, if we don't meet the criteria, we can't ease lockdown. If we do we can. They are going to be tentative at best, but people will jump all over the HYS and media because they will hold them as gospel
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27/01/2021 11:05:47 5 1
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Plans should be made now, if not earlier - one of the problems of the response to the pandemic has been inadequate planning. That does not mean that the plans have to be shared or enacted now. scenario planning should alow for several different futures and plot out the response to each of them.
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27/01/2021 11:20:55 5 1
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Yet another one who doesn't understand the difference between a timeframe and a roadmap.
27/01/2021 12:02:42 1 2
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Spot on, let’s get people to do the right thing and actually lock down, suppress the disease, get vaccinated and get the economy up and running, then make plans and undertake a public enquiry to find out what went wrong for next time.
I don’t blame this govt or the nhs for fighting such a destructive and unforeseen problem, un like Sir-kneel a lot.
27/01/2021 13:43:34 0 0
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or the month after that...
28/01/2021 21:15:19 0 0
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Yeah. Leave things to the last minute. Again. Because just-in-time management techniques have worked so well the last 12 months.
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27/01/2021 10:25:23 149 98
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Bunter : Head in Sand : Wash Hands of all Responsibility : Blame Someone Else
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27/01/2021 11:27:48 104 61
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If you are talking about Boris Johnson, hasn’t he said clearly and unequivocally that he takes full responsibility ? Maybe delete the lie you have proffered.
27/01/2021 13:20:28 4 2
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
27/01/2021 13:21:03 0 5
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Yawn. Blame the government, no matter what the situation or the topic, especially a Conservative government. Never stop complaining.
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27/01/2021 10:25:31 102 90
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Good story to release to try & distract from the mass deaths, incompetence & corruption.
... The same mass deaths that are happening in any other number of places.

*Of course* mistakes have been made - mistakes which could've been better handles with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. The self same criticisms could equally well be levelled at France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, USA etc.

This grievance-chimpery on the part of the Left is just so irritating. Just grow up and get real.
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27/01/2021 10:46:05 12 5
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Especially the corruption (useless "private" test & trace, dodgy PPE purchases etc). Maybe, just maybe, an independant public enquiry into "where the money went" will bring down the governmennt, or at least BoJo and his crooked cronies.
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27/01/2021 10:53:10 13 5
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Why aren't we showing the same obsession with deaths from cancer or mental health issues, obesity etc? Any death, for whatever reason, is sad may have been prevented through earlier diagnosis, treatments, safety measures etc.
Its harsh but people die and what we should be focussing on is getting back to normality and better health for everyone
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27/01/2021 12:02:32 0 1
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Try Euronews then, and you might actually discover parts of Europe are worse. Belgium for one.
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27/01/2021 10:25:34 13 48
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I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
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27/01/2021 10:27:05 34 7
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Aaah....the 'Harold Shipman' defence.

'But...but...but...they were already really old'
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27/01/2021 10:27:26 10 3
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And your point is?
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27/01/2021 10:30:03 13 3
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And are therefore less able to survive the damage it causes the body to do to itself, alongside its own effects. It's not rocket science.

You're also ignoring the people, like myself, who are still short of breath/exhausted 10 months on. And before you say it, yes, I know pneumonia does that - but since when was it a good idea to just accept giving loads of people pneumonia?
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27/01/2021 10:34:55 6 2
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So what? They have less right to life? Where on earth are you coming from?

Ready for a mutation that seriously effects those much younger? Failure to suppress cases across the population results in more mutations. The SARS outbreak in 2003 for example.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2003/05/estimates-sars-death-rates-revised-upward

The government failed by underreacting to slowly
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27/01/2021 10:30:09 6 2
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It has been suggested that "OLD" people still have lives, relatives, and even some value. [citation needed]
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27/01/2021 10:39:33 6 2
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The peak age of cancer patients in the UK is 85-89 (https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence/age#heading-Zero), lets just give up on cancer too. Muppet.
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27/01/2021 10:56:08 5 1
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People with your attitude are to blame not the government.
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27/01/2021 10:57:34 2 5
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something Ive said all along.Someone on TV said they need to produce figures of people who actually died from Covid,but he was quickly silenced.I do not believe any of these figures.Life is not risk free and the harm that is being done far outweighs any benefits.What happens when people have no money to pay rent or buy food.Wait for the civil unrest coming down the line.See Netherlands
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27/01/2021 11:05:49 1 0
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I think that’s the biggest problem that our country is facing and why so much false information is being believed. We really need the true facts of those who lost their lives to the coronavirus, because having it and then having a heart attack makes completely different statistics, but the fact remains that the death toll is still higher than average and that’s something that we should be stopping
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27/01/2021 12:35:33 1 0
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Better hope it does not mutant to the younger generations once there are no old people to infect.
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27/01/2021 10:25:54 18 17
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The endless cycle of lockdowns continues
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27/01/2021 10:29:09 5 10
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Only downvoting on your comment as I am getting sick of the same monotonous routine each day - yes I understand that I could be in far worse positions in my life. At some point everyone is just going to start feeling jaded being stuck in lockdown. You can't excuse human emotion/wellbeing.
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27/01/2021 10:47:32 3 3
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You're right, we should just have one - then keep it and enforce it!
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27/01/2021 10:26:12 401 238
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But Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick insisted the government had taken "the best scientific and medical advice".

Yes but usually several weeks too late because they don’t seem to like following sages or labours lead
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27/01/2021 10:33:55 273 39
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Taking "the best scientific and medical advice" is a completely different thing to following "the best scientific and medical advice".
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27/01/2021 10:36:34 12 20
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Or Nicola's, for that matter.
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27/01/2021 10:40:11 35 40
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Easy to make adverse comments after the fact, just like Captain Hindsight does every time he opens his mouth.

If you had been in charge of such a massive complex unknown situation you would have made mistakes too.
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27/01/2021 10:43:37 39 11
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They may well have taken the best scientific and medial advice their failure came from not acting on any of the advice they were given early enough.

Back in March we were 2 weeks behind Italy with cases but failed to take any pre-emptive measures. If the government had acted more decisively the number of lives lost would have certainly been lower.
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27/01/2021 10:44:38 29 41
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That's rubbish pal. Labour have constantly sniped and criticised from the wings and their contribution will be recognised again at the next operation, when they once again get soundly beaten.
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27/01/2021 10:49:43 8 7
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And the best advice is mostly we don't know.

Neil "250,000 dead by May" Ferguson sounds very convincing but he's a credulous mathmo who seems to think his data is reliable or at least reliable enough to draw very simple conclusions

We all know that is extraordinarily unlikely

This is real life and it never fits any of the model well let alone the hopelessly simplistic epidemiological ones
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27/01/2021 10:50:52 8 2
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That’s normal for any government in this country. First they have to receive the advice, then they have to discuss said advice, then they have to discuss how much red tape they can put in place for this advice and then finally they have to record this advice in triplicate before they can send it to everyone via some poor assistant to set a date for a meeting to set a date to take advice.
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27/01/2021 10:53:56 9 18
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Labours lead.... really? Always easy with the benefit of hindsight.
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27/01/2021 10:54:08 6 20
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Many scientists have different opinions and Sage have one agenda and they are not concerned with the terrible harm lockdowns are doing to people.Covid has taken over and the cure is worse than disease.
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27/01/2021 10:59:17 4 11
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Labour take their lead from the BBC.
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27/01/2021 10:59:32 4 5
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Get ten scientists in a room and you could get ten different answers.
Which one is right?
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27/01/2021 11:00:47 3 16
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Labours lead would mean house arrest for everybody without exception or time limit with unlimited fines.NO THANKS.
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27/01/2021 11:04:49 2 3
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Labours Lead ????
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27/01/2021 11:07:13 2 2
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Basically they don’t want to end lockdown anytime soon which is why dates are always getting pushed back. It doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, I saw something like this happening back in the 1980s, but people didn’t listen back then and I don’t expect them to now
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27/01/2021 11:07:46 2 9
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Labour lead? I can't tell if this is satire or you are being serious Starmer has acquired the nickname Captain Hindsight ! That's no leading from the front!

I take it labour, the snp, Welsh labour have already published there post lock down strategy?

Nope thought not....
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27/01/2021 11:08:39 5 13
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No lead from the Labour Party - they just specialise in hindsight.
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27/01/2021 11:04:23 1 9
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If the scientific advise is close your economy completely down and lock everybody in a cupboard, it's impossible to follow it.
He's there as the person who has to make tough decisions on what we can do and what we can't do and on his shoulders will stand the excess deaths of those decisions and the economic gain we made by not doing them and therefore saving lives and jobs.
a tough balancing act.
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27/01/2021 10:26:54 300 219
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Why is Bojo even thinking about easing restrictions when the UK has the highest Covid deaths and excess deaths in Europe.

Answer: he just wants to be popular at all costs and is under pressure from Tory Party donors.
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27/01/2021 10:30:19 117 104
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Spot n and this is the best he can do for an olive branch...
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27/01/2021 10:39:45 32 9
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He's thinking of it, not doing it, one minute your insulting him for not planning, the next your insulting him for planning, which is it.
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27/01/2021 10:30:50 27 13
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It isn't just Conservative party doners who need to make a living. We all do. Not everyone has taxpayer funded guaranteed public sector employment.
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27/01/2021 10:49:17 25 2
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I don't think gently suggesting a roadmap out is a bad thing. I really hate living in lockdown but I am willing to stick it out until, say, the over 50s at least have some level of protection before any significant easing (which will likely be soon). We have multiple vaccines, why blow it now? I think we all know any plan would be subject to change, but why is a debate on a plan bad?
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27/01/2021 10:49:39 16 4
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Unfortunately, unless something changes, and another country makes a grave mistake now vaccines are being rolled out the UK will always have the highest death rate in Europe as we cannot bring back the dead.
I don't support Johnson but lock down will not hold for ever there as to be an end and the longer you drag it on for with no goal to aim for the more people will turn against it.
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27/01/2021 10:51:17 20 0
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He's setting out the criteria from which the decision to ease restrictions will be made.

Very different from being close to easing restrictions, but crucial for businesses, schools etc to know so they don't get left with the usual 24hr notice before each change
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27/01/2021 11:06:48 15 10
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So you would like them to continue forever and condemn many more people to death because of Covid restrictions rather than from the virus itself? Sorry but the restrictions & Lockdowns have not worked in the UK for a number of reasons and people like you have to face that and accept that a different course of action is needed.
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27/01/2021 11:06:58 19 10
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Another one who wants lockdowns and restrictions to last forever. For crying out loud, I'd you want to hide under your bed for the rest of your life, fine. But don't force it on everyone else
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27/01/2021 11:08:35 15 10
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Maybe because despite the fact pubs, cafes, gyms, most shops etc have all been closed for a month there are still tens of thousands of cases every day which means people are just ignoring the rules so might as well open up and get on with it and try and save the economy and the mental health of the nation.
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27/01/2021 11:10:26 2 2
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Devil's Advocate: What if lifted restrictions with no plan in place? That wouldn't be good would it?
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27/01/2021 11:16:51 6 4
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He should ease to save people's lives as a result of these lockdowns and to save the economy
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27/01/2021 11:22:29 6 3
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Answer: Restrictions have implications and the longer they go on for the greater the impact.
These restrictions are hitting the poorest the hardest. Those living in the most deprived areas already die 9 years earlier than those in the least deprived.
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27/01/2021 11:24:21 5 2
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He's not doing anything of the sort - but believe it or not - it has to be discussed in advance - it's the media that is constantly wanting things to change.
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27/01/2021 11:23:22 2 2
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I disagree, for anyone who listens or reads the media, they would be aware that all journo’s call for is ‘when.’ They don’t stop, it’s always ‘when.’ Whilst I’m no fan of this govt I can’t think of any party or person (who could be PM) who would have done any better.
27/01/2021 12:01:13 2 1
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No they don't, and you lying about it won't help. Overall Belgium has, UK is 3rd. On the 'daily' & 7 day average that the UK topped a week ago, according to Euronews on 24/01/2021, Portugal now had that dubious honour.
27/01/2021 12:18:49 1 3
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Do you mean Boris Johnson? I not familiar with this Bojo character.
27/01/2021 13:14:03 0 1
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Another blind rabid anti-Conservative Remain complainer.
27/01/2021 13:19:06 1 2
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No, the answer is that lockdown is doing enormous long-lasting damage to people's livelihoods, and he wants to keep it to a minimum.

But that doesn't fit your agenda, does it.
27/01/2021 13:21:26 2 0
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
27/01/2021 13:15:41 0 1
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Because someone still has to think about the UK economy.
27/01/2021 13:33:39 0 1
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Answer: baying idiots demand it, businesses and individuals need to work to earn, part of which goes to pay the taxes which keeps those who are not working in the manner to which they're accustomed. If some that have worked throughout had stopped, we'd be dead from Corvid or starving.
27/01/2021 13:40:52 0 0
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And the fickle press
27/01/2021 13:52:18 0 0
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Maybe he is also balancing the longer term mental health, unemployment and generational poverty /lost education - many more will die of these things than the 100,000 - some of which, it is sad to say would have not been with us for much longer anyway - the UK's higher obesity and diabetes rates alongside population density always have meant a high toll here - easy to blame when ill informed
27/01/2021 16:46:54 0 0
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Your endless political rants are truly tiresome and akin to that of a squealing child
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27/01/2021 10:27:01 19 18
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Planning ahead, one of the greatest strengths of this excellent government.

I feel blessed.
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27/01/2021 10:29:48 35 17
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Bojo only ever had one plan -become PM at all costs.

He's been blustering his way through ever since. The results are a bad Brexit and a terrible Covid response.
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27/01/2021 10:30:37 3 0
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sarcasm ?
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27/01/2021 10:25:15 89 61
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Plans should be made next month, not now.
We've no idea what things will be like in a months time.
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27/01/2021 10:27:02 91 59
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We're not asking for a timetable, but what the plans & criteria are when the time is right! Boris as usual just doesn't have a single clue!??
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27/01/2021 10:42:21 10 2
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"Boris as usual just doesn't have a single clue!??"

But all the experts on here do!
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27/01/2021 10:50:21 2 6
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Socialist bigot.
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27/01/2021 10:59:35 4 1
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And you do, of course. Yawn.
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27/01/2021 11:23:21 5 1
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Sadly the media are. They still keep asking daft questions like will the kids be going back to school after half term on 22 Feb. How can anyone possibly answer that now?
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27/01/2021 11:45:41 1 2
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He has more of a clue than people like you go just complain.
27/01/2021 13:25:04 0 0
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Nor do most of the people who rant about him.
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27/01/2021 10:27:05 282 140
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Drop the tier system. All it did was encourage those in higher tiers to head into areas in a lower tier.
100,000 deaths. At least learn the lessons from the past mistakes. If the clown can't do that, 100,000 more will be heading our way.
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27/01/2021 10:48:48 172 49
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Absolutely correct It’s far too easy in Britain to travel from one tier to another spreading the virus, including any new variants further with every trip
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27/01/2021 10:52:41 25 3
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And millions of bigger clowns will still flout all the regulations.
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27/01/2021 11:07:59 20 4
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So you accept that the main problem with the continuation of this disease is the basic non-compliance of an un-thinking population. What makes you think this is Boris's problem? Trouble is if we persistently insist on not behaving like rational adults we will end up with more of a nanny state.
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27/01/2021 11:15:39 12 6
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That was down to personal responsibility and selfishness. There has been a lot of that during the various lockdowns
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27/01/2021 11:40:39 5 8
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Yesterday the ONS stated total death in the UK 2019 was 530K, 2020 was 529K but has disappeared off site and now say update on 2 Feb so I think its more like 20-30K death so far.
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27/01/2021 11:43:06 2 1
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A friend of mine works as a chef and I was told his manager was taking xmas day booking for people for Essex.
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27/01/2021 11:44:54 9 2
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Great idea but if people actually followed the rules then perhaps it would work.

We're in a lockdown now and so many break the rules in some way, my family included.

Things need to be tougher when these rules are implemented to force people to follow them.

Perhaps China has the best method when it comes to eradicating something like this virus, something we will never do.
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27/01/2021 11:48:39 7 0
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There are some issues with the tier system. However the problem without it is that presumably you base the rules on the worse affected area. So if there's an outbreak on the Isle of Wight, you send all the children home and close all the businesses in Aberdeen.

(No I don't have a perfect answer - although part of it is for people not to be selfish)
100,000 within 28 days of a positive test not 100,000 directly because of Covid. Do not forget this fact
27/01/2021 12:09:12 6 0
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Totally agree -York and Liverpool in Tier 2 and look what happened, people just went to these area's from Tier 3's and the rates shot up
27/01/2021 12:10:26 7 0
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That's my feeling. If we are going to have an exit strategy let's have one that will help the entire country, not one that divides us and allows the infection rates to creep up again through other people's stupidity.
27/01/2021 12:11:47 2 3
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??. Starmer is better then? Let me know his 'golden ticket' policy to make the grass greener.
27/01/2021 12:13:19 5 0
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This happened when Herefordshire was Tier1 and surrounding counties 3 and 4, swamped with people travelling into Hereford from Wales(who were in lockdown) at the time to drink in pubs and stock up with beer from supremarkets.
27/01/2021 12:14:02 4 3
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The tier system was very unfair, lumping areas with few cases in with others with a lot. It caused resentment all round and yes, people in higher tiers headed into lower tiers. I did this because I live on near a border in a rural area where there were few cases, so did not see it as fair that I was lumped in with a city area.
27/01/2021 13:09:40 0 0
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A slight exaggeration. perhaps.
27/01/2021 13:27:23 0 0
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Have to agree. If we can't control borders, then no chance of controlling movement within the UK.
27/01/2021 13:28:07 0 0
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No it wont, there was no vaccine last year and now there is, it will make a huge difference that will become apparent in a few weeks.
27/01/2021 14:27:41 0 0
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North Yorkshire had very low rates of infection and was Tier 2 before Christmas. West and South Yorkshire were Tier 3. Hundreds and hundreds of people travelled from places like Leeds and Wakefield for a 'day out' in York just before Christmas. Now York has the worst infection rate in Yorkshire. A five year old could have foreseen that, so why couldn't our politicians and scientists?
27/01/2021 15:10:44 0 0
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So you said it’s the the public travelling between tiered areas that’s the problem. Not the government. If they put things in place and people go against that initiative, there the clowns that need to get a grip.
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27/01/2021 10:25:34 13 48
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I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
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27/01/2021 10:27:05 34 7
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Aaah....the 'Harold Shipman' defence.

'But...but...but...they were already really old'
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27/01/2021 10:27:18 28 16
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They ought to be able to provide something more than "broad brush" given how long the epidemic has been ongoing, and the resource available to them. A good framework is likely to work even with all the unknowns, and if there's a good reason it doesn't, then changes can be explained to the public and made. Saying there's a new variant is not a good reason, because new variants use the same metrics
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I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
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27/01/2021 10:27:26 10 3
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And your point is?
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"Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month"

That'll be Bozo the Clown who bragged about shaking hands with Covid patients and then caught Covid which nearly killed him.

It would be safer to have the village idiot publish the criteria.
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27/01/2021 10:32:06 224 77
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Grayling and Williamson are too busy doing village idiot things for that
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27/01/2021 10:33:47 31 7
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Let's face it, many people will have stopped reading the article after the first 3 words:

"The PM hopes..."
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27/01/2021 10:35:21 5 3
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we're ready for you whenever you are
Are you the village idiot?
Sounds like it.
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27/01/2021 10:48:58 6 26
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But of course Starmer would do it so much better ... like hell he would. Perhaps your own parties and family events caused many many deaths?
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27/01/2021 10:57:12 10 7
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Well, did it nearly kill him or was it just to get it him out of the limelight. There always seems to be other stories pop up when something bad is happening to distract the public.
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27/01/2021 10:52:54 4 20
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"That'll be Bozo the Clown who bragged about shaking hands with Covid patients and then caught Covid which nearly killed him."

At least he's had the sense to avoid it since, how many times has Starmer had to self-isolate now? Perhaps he should have 'forseen' the possibility?
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27/01/2021 11:12:30 2 0
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I read that as that he's publishing the plan next month not easing them next month? What's wrong with planning??? Would be naive not to have a plan
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27/01/2021 11:18:31 2 1
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You probably will
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27/01/2021 11:40:43 1 4
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It is so easy to criticise when you dont have to.make any of the decisions.
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27/01/2021 11:42:51 2 1
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Who said he is considering it? All he is doing is outlining criteria to do so,something people on all.sides have been asking for.
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27/01/2021 11:49:12 2 0
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Not yet. Lockdown for months yet or go for 200,000.
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Are you volunteering?
27/01/2021 12:11:52 1 2
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Perhaps we should look at all the idiots over the years when it comes to diseases, it isn't that long ago as a Nation we thought shaking hands with an HIV positive person would be fatal - and who were the worst the General Public shunning HIV carries
27/01/2021 12:14:02 0 5
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I think you will find he is not a 'clown'. Probably why people like you find it difficult to understand the restrictions.
27/01/2021 13:15:08 1 2
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Yawn. Complain, whinge, rant.
27/01/2021 13:16:43 0 1
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You will publish your own report then.
27/01/2021 13:38:58 1 1
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There seem to be quite a few villages missing their idiots at the moment!
Bob
27/01/2021 13:42:24 1 2
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He never said he shook the hand of a COVID patient, and he never did shake the hand of a COVID patient.

They didn't even have any COVID patients in the hospital he visited.

You are fake news.
27/01/2021 13:50:11 0 1
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no manners, no..........
27/01/2021 13:54:22 0 1
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So will you publish the criteria ?- as you seem to know everything - sure you would've made good choices? for the economy, lives, longer term poverty and deprivation? mental health? lost education? unemployment? - simple isn't it - NO
"It would be safer to have the village idiot publish the criteria."

Can't do that. Apparently Grandad Jezza's village won't let him go
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27/01/2021 15:45:03 1 0
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I thought that was his role? i.e. to play country idiot...
27/01/2021 16:40:10 1 0
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Boris taking full irresponsibility as ever.
27/01/2021 16:48:09 0 1
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Are you volunteering?
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27/01/2021 10:28:17 32 20
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The last thing we need is any more of Johnson’s false promises

We need the truth
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27/01/2021 10:28:20 15 13
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Keep restrictions until deaths are in single figures as well as infections. Ensure all borders are closed, in other words isolate Uk. For examples re NZ and Aus. Unless we do this vaccine or no we will be back in lockdown next winter.
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27/01/2021 10:30:41 10 2
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We're back in lockdown next winter regardless of vaccination. Whitty was talking about it last week
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27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
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The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
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27/01/2021 10:30:42 14 5
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So your solution is to make our country into a permanent prison camp?

Wow lockdown zealots reaching new levels of crazy
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27/01/2021 10:31:11 3 2
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Getting bored in your student flat are you?
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27/01/2021 10:32:44 5 2
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Daft post. You must be trolling, right ?
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27/01/2021 10:34:16 1 2
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Well done! Nice deflection, a CCHQ "Gold Star" is on its way to you!??
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27/01/2021 10:34:48 3 2
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then we'll all die of starvation
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27/01/2021 10:35:07 6 2
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A permanent lockdown? Hmmm, so the government will just print money to pay for the extension of businesses that can’t open and for people that can’t work, and cease to collect tax from said businesses and people which will no longer pay for things like, oh I don’t know, say the NHS. Well thought out point Mr. De Vert
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Meh
27/01/2021 10:37:28 3 2
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10/10.

Shame there are so many people who didn't even bother to look at your username before posting.
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27/01/2021 10:31:00 1 0
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Satire ?
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27/01/2021 10:46:02 2 1
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Stupid.
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27/01/2021 10:50:34 3 1
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You may want to be imprisoned but most of us dont.For goodness sake,this is existing not living.No economy,no funds for NHS.Mental health problems off the scale and other diseases going untreated.Lockdowns do not work or we would not be in a third one.
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27/01/2021 11:43:56 1 1
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Have the men in white coats been round for you yet?
27/01/2021 13:17:38 0 0
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You may well be right but try selling it. Look at the votes already!
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27/01/2021 10:28:26 7 24
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Regardless of what happens with the pandemic, there's no way the government is handing these powers back. If you actually think that they or Labour will not use them to target political rivals and those who speak out against them, you're an idiot.
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27/01/2021 10:28:30 118 72
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1,600+ died yesterday and we just hit a horrific milestone of 100,000+ total. This is absolutely a populist deflection tactic to put a good sound bite out in the media.
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27/01/2021 11:00:41 67 40
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Don't reopen too early and give us a 4th national lockdown!!

Learn from your mistakes. Make it a gradual reopening, see how each little bit of reopening effects the R number before reopening any further. Once the R number is just below or at 1, don't reopen anything else until more people are vaccinated.

If we'd done this after the 1st wave, the 2nd and 3rd lockdowns wouldn't have been needed.
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27/01/2021 11:05:19 22 4
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Wrong 1,214 people died yesterday sadly , but that's the problem through this whole pandemic inflated figures. I would like to know how many people have died through this due to other causes like suicides and alike due to depression and mental health issues or do they not matter!?
27/01/2021 12:14:49 12 5
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1600 died yesterday? I think you'll find that is almost bang on the 2015-2019 average for 26th Jan, which is 1607

But don't let facts get in the way of your politics.
27/01/2021 12:04:23 5 4
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Who would have done any better? Who ?
27/01/2021 17:27:50 0 0
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1200 people die every single day in this country at the best of times, and usually double during flu season. Most of the 'Covid' deaths are 'with Covid' (I note flu deaths are strangely absent this year). But keep getting hysterical about the figures, it means you can score some more political points and applause from others in this echo chamber.
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27/01/2021 10:24:59 135 77
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Boris hasn't published any criteria for any part of this pandemic from day one, so I don't think I believe him!

A £1 says he'll find a reason not to as usual!??
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27/01/2021 10:28:47 99 113
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I wonder what it feels like to be partly responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 people. Even Bozo must be reeling...
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27/01/2021 10:36:43 17 8
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He looked hopelessly out of his depth again yesterday at the daily briefing!??
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27/01/2021 10:42:55 25 14
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I doubt he is reeling.

This was the man too busy to attend the first five COBRA meetings, the man who joked about operation last gasp and squashing the sombrero.

The only reason he would feel sad or concerned is if it makes him look bad.

And it does - the only sense in which we lead the world is incompetence
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27/01/2021 10:52:55 15 21
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Ask Blair!

His illegal war done that!
880
27/01/2021 11:41:27 13 7
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He said he finds the sorrow 'hard to compute'. Probably the most truthful thing he's ever said. Finding certain emotions 'hard to compute' is difficult for sociopaths after all.
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27/01/2021 11:44:28 0 5
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Why?
27/01/2021 12:10:46 5 3
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Don't worry, you won't ever have to wonder, one has to have some sense of proportion and empathy, so when the deaths due to lock-down are counted, you'll be fine.
27/01/2021 12:32:50 3 1
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He's a narcissist. Can't do empathy, just wants to be loved and wanted.
27/01/2021 12:46:57 0 0
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Well your party will never know.
Only partly responsible? Surely he murdered them all personally? Removed
27/01/2021 13:29:06 0 0
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Ask Tony Blair. He will know.
27/01/2021 15:15:23 0 0
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Did he eat a bat?
27/01/2021 15:16:58 0 0
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Ask Tony Blair. His illegal war cost or subsequently caused the lost lives of millions
28/01/2021 10:36:59 0 0
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I doubt Teflon Boy and his Teflon Cabinet even notice
It is just an inconvenient number best buried with some more photo-shoots
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27/01/2021 10:25:54 18 17
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The endless cycle of lockdowns continues
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27/01/2021 10:29:09 5 10
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Only downvoting on your comment as I am getting sick of the same monotonous routine each day - yes I understand that I could be in far worse positions in my life. At some point everyone is just going to start feeling jaded being stuck in lockdown. You can't excuse human emotion/wellbeing.
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27/01/2021 10:29:15 396 226
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Give it a rest BBC. Let's have a day of reflection not yet another day of hatred from the keyboard warriors.
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27/01/2021 10:31:46 426 322
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People have good reason to be angry with the government's woeful handling of the virus response. Suppressing it won't help.
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27/01/2021 10:33:57 5 17
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I should report your post for flagrant breach of some sht stirrer in the BBC's criteria for HYS
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27/01/2021 10:41:19 29 38
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Well said, but an agenda is an agenda, and the ?BBC are just following their agenda
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27/01/2021 10:51:50 57 45
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Thinking about the 100,000+ dead, I am asking why we have highest death rate per head of population in the world.

Think about that. Us. Worst.

How did that happen ?

10 years of Tory misrule and cuts followed by the election of a Prime Minister known for his incompetence and lack of attention to detail created the perfect storm to this shameful position.
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27/01/2021 11:12:48 6 6
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Well your contribution is no help is it? Maybe you could have stayed away and had a day of reflection yourself?
638
27/01/2021 11:19:58 8 5
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Day of reflection?

You can reflect all you like pal, but let's face it you weren't too busy reflecting to post on this HYS, eh?
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27/01/2021 11:23:50 9 5
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The families in of 100,000 people want the government held to account for failure in public health policy.
751
27/01/2021 11:29:57 7 1
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Don't go on the BBC News Website if you are fed up of the news.
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27/01/2021 11:36:14 3 0
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don't come on then simple
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27/01/2021 11:46:53 4 1
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With all due respect, but over a hundred thousand people over the normal amount have lost their lives during this, and that’s only the ones that they can be sure about, a day of reflection is no more than a minute silence. Absolutely useless unless we reflect on why they’re dead in the first place.
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27/01/2021 11:48:19 3 4
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BBC are too busdy creating a shambles of 25 minutes Covid nonsense and 5 minutes News. On a programme called THE NEWS !
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27/01/2021 11:48:59 3 1
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I suppose if captain foresight would have been in charge you would be the first to say “let’s stop having a pop”
27/01/2021 12:18:18 2 5
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BBC is a propaganda channel. They are going to see the job through to the end.
27/01/2021 12:19:29 2 0
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If a story about the PM announcing that he will announce plans in a month is “hatred” then you must barely be able to function due to how sensitive you are
27/01/2021 12:25:50 2 0
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Hi Goat, what a great idea - the day after the death toll due to covid exceeds 100 000 and you think you we should lay off the gov and their lamentable record in this regard. Right enough, 12 hours of scrutiny is enough, we can put all that nonsense behind us now and just chill. And we should, of course, blame the BBC for reporting the news, it is their fault that things are so bad.
27/01/2021 12:32:02 3 1
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The bereaved have been expected to put up and shut up for far too long. No minutes silence, no national memorial, no remembrance. Yesterday - shamefully - was the first time Johnson expressed anything even approaching regret. Appalling government
27/01/2021 12:35:20 3 1
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If you don't hate those responsible for killing 100,000 of us, you're a fool.
27/01/2021 12:45:43 2 0
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No one is forcing you to either read or post, so go away and have your day of reflection some where else.
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27/01/2021 10:25:15 89 61
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Plans should be made next month, not now.
We've no idea what things will be like in a months time.
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27/01/2021 10:29:17 8 7
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It’s his attempt at an olive branch and this was the best he can come up with.

100,000 dead with COVID, even more excess deaths and a terrible economic performance... but don’t worry, we might relax things in a month...
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27/01/2021 10:29:28 714 94
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I have 2 hopes.

Firstly, that the government plan takes all things into consideration (there are many variables) and comes up with a sensible framework of a plan based on good evidence and data.

Secondly, the media and the public get behind the plan and follow the guidelines to help steer us out of this pandemic.

Only a collective effort on the part of everyone will get us through this.
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27/01/2021 10:38:42 478 175
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You're right of course but no chance with this government and too many in our population. 100,000 and still the airports open, too many numpties still don't care, raves, parties and weddings, etc., etc.
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27/01/2021 11:00:56 156 30
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Well said. The media have been shameful through this whole pandemic and frankly, the level and quality of journalism and reporting is well below standard in this country.
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27/01/2021 11:17:49 37 6
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That would be great if it happens, but as you say there are two hopes - one of them is Bob.
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27/01/2021 11:19:24 41 3
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We could do without the performative confusion on restrictions when they are eased like we got last time out from the media.
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27/01/2021 11:20:46 112 48
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We know straight away that whatever plan or framework the government comes up with, which of necessity will be complex, the media will pull it apart and criticise it automatically, and essentially continue it's role as the unofficial opposition. These days the media really isn't working for the benefit of the population, it just sees it's job to be pessimistically anti-government. So depressing.
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27/01/2021 11:25:58 18 40
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Well it's not going to be soon.
The key will be reducing admissions to ICUs because they are all over-stretched. The only way to reduce ICU admissions without a lockdown will be to vaccinate the 50-70 year olds. (There are of course hardly any 70+ year olds in ICU because their survival chances are virtually nil).
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SAM
27/01/2021 11:27:03 77 35
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I entirely agree. However, firstly, there are far too many 'covidiots' out there who do not follow the rules already so why would they follow any further advice? And, secondly, I would like to see the media stop their blame game as to who is causing these deaths; the only cause of these deaths is the disease itself. Hind sight is always, and has always been, 20/20!
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27/01/2021 11:44:15 16 34
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The 'evidence and data' change, depending upon who is in power. Biden wasn't in Office for an hour before the 'Science' was changed. WHO 'revising' it's PCR guidance,including the need for 'manual adjustment of the PCR +ve Threshold' & stating PCR is more a 'guideline' than test! Biden just being elected reduced the infection rate. Like our ONS increased the 2021 'excess mortality'
917
27/01/2021 11:44:33 20 27
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A cost/benefit analysis of lockdowns etc would be a good idea. Lockdowns are pointless if they don't have any affect on overall mortality.
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27/01/2021 11:45:47 25 17
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At the moment (in winter) we are in the range of normal seasonal deaths over the last 25 years, so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 2 to 3 months.
Gaz
27/01/2021 11:53:05 13 12
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Well said. We have the government building conservatories and the press throwing stones at both ministers and the conservatories. This needs everyone pulling together.
27/01/2021 11:55:29 3 3
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In general, the public have followed the loose "plans".
Not at Heathrow, though. I dont know about you though poo poo Starfish, but I,m banned from airports (I think).
27/01/2021 12:06:20 17 6
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So far, our government has tried hard but been ineffective and our media has often been unhelpful.

I guess with both government and media, the people get what they they want and ultimately what they deserve.
27/01/2021 12:17:31 14 8
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Still the ‘blame the public’ narrative?
27/01/2021 12:35:18 12 9
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What ? BBC getting behind the Goverment, pigs might fly !
27/01/2021 12:40:18 5 0
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everyone is just a term for the population. it consists of many different diverse groups. A collective effort wont happen.
27/01/2021 12:42:05 2 0
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Good words.
27/01/2021 12:44:30 2 3
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Bob and no fudging I suspect

I don't think BJ understand the maths or why it is full of assumptions that mean it is nearly useless anyway
27/01/2021 12:49:18 9 3
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I'd so love to find that you are correct.

But I fear that the media will, yet again, pull apart and trample the government plans, no matter how well-founded, and thereby incite and enable those looking for justification to ignore the rules intended to keep them and the rest of us alive.

Sadly, political point-scoring will still be seen as preferable to pulling together for the greater good.
27/01/2021 12:54:21 6 0
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not a chance, a lot of people do not listen.
Bob
27/01/2021 12:54:29 7 3
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Good luck with number 2. Even with this plan the first question at every briefing will be 'Prime Minister, when will lockdown end? People are wilting away, Jean from Ruislip has not seen her son since July 1995, why are you keeping Jean locked indoors?'
27/01/2021 12:56:53 1 0
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Bob Hope?
Ian
27/01/2021 13:01:46 1 2
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"Firstly, that the government plan takes all things into consideration (there are many variables) and comes up with a sensible framework of a plan based on good evidence and data."

That's your opinion that it comes up with a sensible framework, it's not fact. And many medical experts have shown that the government has ignored experts, not locking down soon enough, not enforcing quarantines etc
27/01/2021 13:01:57 6 2
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Really tired of the media "gotcha" questioning and reporting. BBC & Sky gleefully report all the countries with lower deaths per 100k but omit those with higher rates. Several EU countries not far behind UK and could well overtake UK when UK vaccination effect kicks in several weeks earlier than rest of Europe.
27/01/2021 12:40:58 5 0
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the fact that they are counting people who have had only half a vaccination as vaccinated suggests this will not happen.
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27/01/2021 10:29:29 15 18
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Even last night johnson lied to everyone he is sick
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27/01/2021 10:47:21 3 3
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Not as sick as you.
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27/01/2021 10:29:38 5 11
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I don't even want to think it, but I wonder if someone in government has thought about the savings from state pension payments they have gained from these poor souls that have passed away from covid.
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27/01/2021 10:31:48 4 4
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pension payments are provided by an element of current workers national insurance, not from money the pensioners think they have 'saved' over their working life.
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27/01/2021 10:49:38 0 0
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£172.50 state pension x 52 weeks x 16 years of retirement x 100,000 people.

State pension for 16 years for 100,000 people = roughly £14.5 billion.

To be honest though, its not a lot of money for this Government. They happily spent £22 billion on a Test and Trace system that didn't work. Money isn't their motivation in this case. I think they just don't care.
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27/01/2021 10:49:56 0 0
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Of course they have; it'll be in Rishi's calculations. Harsh but has to be done.
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27/01/2021 10:57:27 0 0
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Well 100k out of 12.5m is not a big dent in regards to pension payments. This is certainly not the plan. It is however a horrendous loss to too many.
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27/01/2021 10:29:40 128 53
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Impossible to plan until Covid is under control.
If the R rate/ infections are still high coming out of lockdown is pointless
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27/01/2021 10:32:25 104 69
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Agreed, but what defines "under control"? What is the criteria for this? This is what we want to know! Boris loves his "war" analogies, well can you imagine fighting a war without any plan whatsoever? Well that's Boris for you!??
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27/01/2021 10:37:37 8 5
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R rate will always be high whilst testing with the PCR test that can not isolate the virus.
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27/01/2021 11:12:36 9 2
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Of course it is 'possible to plan'. The government and its overpaid 'scientific advisors' know the numerical thresholds for lifting restrictions already. R numbers, infection rates and hospital admissions required to open up society. We are not asking for a date. We are asking for concrete numbers to aim for so we can start living again. Really not that difficult.
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27/01/2021 11:16:29 9 0
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Arguing for perpetual Lockdown is pointless, especially when people don't comply with it. We will have to be pragmatic and learn to live with it in combination with vaccination.
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27/01/2021 11:21:47 6 2
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Yet another one who doesn't understand the difference between a timeframe and a roadmap. Hardly surprising though, eh flippy?
27/01/2021 12:13:22 2 0
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Impossible to announce the details but possible, in fact essential, to agree the measures which will be used to make the decision. Simple contingency planning. An essential skill which seems to be absent in politicians.
27/01/2021 12:19:13 2 2
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Number of deaths are irrelevant. Very sad, and unfortunate, but irrelevant nonetheless. It's the number of hospitalisations which should be the determinant, in conjunction with infection trajectory. If we are to go back to the tiered system, it needs to include clear instruction on travel. Maximum distance for "local" etc. People seem to be too stupid (or entitled) to do it themselves.
27/01/2021 13:21:00 0 0
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But it's already below 1 so I'm not sure what your point is.
27/01/2021 13:41:58 0 0
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Complete and utter bilge, the NHS has notices outside of its hospitals effectively saying 'we are closed except for emergencies' has been like that for 10 month & more, so cancers, heart disease, illnesses that can be treated and give many years of life ignored, in the belief that 'lock-down' works. So IF it does, then lock-down the care-homes & the vulnerable not the young immune.
27/01/2021 16:55:14 0 1
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"until Covid is under control." Get a grip when is that ever going to happen!
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27/01/2021 10:29:46 109 51
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Do nothing.

Wait for the scientists & opposition to suggest actions

Rubbish their suggestions

Wait a bit & do nothing

Put in place the policies suggested by the scientists and opposition

Claim their criticism is 'hindsight' despite everyone being able to see their prior warnings.

Repeat
27/01/2021 12:02:40 48 16
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Pretty much sums up the past 10 months from this government!

Very depressing that because of this, we're looking at the whole of 2021 being damage control. Possibly didn't have to be this way?
27/01/2021 13:23:45 0 2
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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27/01/2021 10:27:01 19 18
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Planning ahead, one of the greatest strengths of this excellent government.

I feel blessed.
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27/01/2021 10:29:48 35 17
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Bojo only ever had one plan -become PM at all costs.

He's been blustering his way through ever since. The results are a bad Brexit and a terrible Covid response.
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27/01/2021 10:29:52 18 26
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I feel for the Government. They cannot do wrong for doing right.

This is a nightmare scenario for every country in the world. Our death rates are probably due to the fact that the younger echelons of society refuse to stay locked down and are spreading it all over the place.

There is also a direct correlation to highly liberal societies to high transmission. Go figure.
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27/01/2021 10:32:42 1 6
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So why have Sweden fared better ?
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27/01/2021 10:35:34 1 4
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This govt, and Johnson and Hancock in particular, are 100% responsible for every wrong decision they made over these past 14 months.
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FF
27/01/2021 10:38:14 2 4
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Feel for the Government? They have been too late in doing the hard things. Too worried about Business class and what really suits them.
The deaths are solely on the Governments hands.
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27/01/2021 10:43:04 2 2
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Don't feel sorry for them - it's their job (and they haven't been very competent in carrying it out)! No one claims it's easy but it could be so much better if we had a competent statesman at the helm in place of this chancer.
27/01/2021 13:24:02 0 0
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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27/01/2021 10:29:57 8 7
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The different attitudes towards how Covid should be handled, and how different people in society view others behaviour towards it is so divisive, that they make the B word look like a unity project and Lord Voldemort’s soul a whole piece.
27/01/2021 13:24:16 0 0
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As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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Bob
27/01/2021 10:30:00 7 10
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Note the word "hopes". Come next month there will be yet another excuse for not publishing. Just when are you going to force this lying incompetent from office
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27/01/2021 10:25:34 13 48
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I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
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27/01/2021 10:30:03 13 3
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And are therefore less able to survive the damage it causes the body to do to itself, alongside its own effects. It's not rocket science.

You're also ignoring the people, like myself, who are still short of breath/exhausted 10 months on. And before you say it, yes, I know pneumonia does that - but since when was it a good idea to just accept giving loads of people pneumonia?
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27/01/2021 10:26:54 300 219
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Why is Bojo even thinking about easing restrictions when the UK has the highest Covid deaths and excess deaths in Europe.

Answer: he just wants to be popular at all costs and is under pressure from Tory Party donors.
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27/01/2021 10:30:19 117 104
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Spot n and this is the best he can do for an olive branch...
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27/01/2021 11:43:37 0 2
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Why should he need an olive branch?
27/01/2021 12:19:26 0 1
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Where can I see 'n' then?
27/01/2021 13:14:35 0 0
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Spot n?
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27/01/2021 10:30:26 14 16
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It will be like the rest, full of "needless exemptions" that will drag this on even further.

Eat Out To Spread About
Masks still not compulsory
Still allowing flying
gap too long between injections.
Any 30 Bob Business Traveler MP exempt from everything.

Wonder why over 100,000 people are dead.

New New Tory are equally as bad, nothing being said about Xmas students etc.
144
27/01/2021 10:41:15 6 0
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You missed the main one.Masses of the British population have flouted the rules througout the pandemic.
37
27/01/2021 10:30:30 8 19
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Don't ease restrictions, simple. There was no guide book on handling this sort of pandemic, and I believe no-one else could have done a better job when you consider population density, being a global travel hub etc. Now though, harsh lessons have been learnt, and harsh lock downs should continue until a cross party and scientific agreement is found. We Are All In This Together!!
63
27/01/2021 10:33:48 2 5
bbc
"There was no guide book"

There was, we just didn't bother reading it as it was published in 1918.
89
27/01/2021 10:36:16 0 2
bbc
Obviously they could have done a much better job.
17
27/01/2021 10:28:20 15 13
bbc
Keep restrictions until deaths are in single figures as well as infections. Ensure all borders are closed, in other words isolate Uk. For examples re NZ and Aus. Unless we do this vaccine or no we will be back in lockdown next winter.
38
27/01/2021 10:30:41 10 2
bbc
We're back in lockdown next winter regardless of vaccination. Whitty was talking about it last week
18
27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
bbc
The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
39
27/01/2021 10:30:42 14 5
bbc
So your solution is to make our country into a permanent prison camp?

Wow lockdown zealots reaching new levels of crazy
289
27/01/2021 10:52:09 1 2
bbc
See my comment.Cant believe how many people have been brainwashed by the media into believing lockdowns are the way to go.Cure is worse than disease.More harm is being created for the future with regard to mental health,poverty and other illnesses.
40
27/01/2021 10:30:49 44 26
bbc
Given that the average age of those in ICU from COVID is 58, and it will be some time before the over 50s will receive the vaccine; it will be best to wait for a fair amount of time before relaxing restrictions.
56
27/01/2021 10:32:47 15 24
bbc
Source please. Otherwise it's spurious.
18
27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
bbc
The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
41
27/01/2021 10:31:11 3 2
bbc
Getting bored in your student flat are you?
42
27/01/2021 10:31:38 16 14
bbc
"Lads, we hit 100k deaths, what do we do?"

"Admit we messed up and organise a proper response?"

"Nah, we'll just say we'll do it later. That'll distract them."
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27/01/2021 10:31:43 9 16
bbc
Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month - BBC

= Dear Brits, time to overthrow this clown, or, you would get 100000 COVID deaths every 3 months !!!!!!!!
76
27/01/2021 10:34:57 2 2
bbc
That's the spirit...we need a momentum led Labour govt seizing power. They can then maintain a strict Lockdown whilst concurrently reducing unemployment and increasing wages for the working class.
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27/01/2021 10:35:55 2 2
bbc
Dear dear twit
27/01/2021 13:25:08 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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27/01/2021 10:29:15 396 226
bbc
Give it a rest BBC. Let's have a day of reflection not yet another day of hatred from the keyboard warriors.
44
27/01/2021 10:31:46 426 322
bbc
People have good reason to be angry with the government's woeful handling of the virus response. Suppressing it won't help.
459
27/01/2021 11:05:01 29 13
bbc
The successful governments around the world have suppressed their nations in a far more strict way than Britain would accept. So get realistic when blaming BJ.
607
27/01/2021 11:17:57 13 7
bbc
People should take some personal responsibility and stop blaming the government for everything, that is too easy
659
27/01/2021 11:21:57 7 6
bbc
They have a reason, but it's not a good one. The top article on the BBC right now blames the fact the Government "failed to create a working contact-tracing system". No such thing exists - misleading BBC reporting gave the false impression South Korea's was much more effective than it actually was (for example, claiming it allowed them to reopen pubs, which in reality that caused cases to explode)
671
27/01/2021 11:12:16 3 8
bbc
An on, and on and on, rubbish, rubbish, rubbish.
833
27/01/2021 11:20:51 1 2
bbc
And people who really think about issues, especially about issues that are all consuming for the govt and businesses who supply the tax to pay for public services, don’t do tribal sillyness, they reflect first.
27/01/2021 11:56:56 1 3
bbc
Then why do the BBC, you, HMG , SAGE etc all suppress any scientific argument with say the Great Barrington Scientists who point out 'lock-down' is not & has never been a scientific experiment, until now? It was Xi Jinping's way of shutting down opposition. Fortunately in UK the opposition isn't yet locked up in a Gulag - with the likes of you around, that might not be far off however.
Gaz
27/01/2021 11:56:58 2 3
bbc
Sounds like you are a member of the Piers Richard Morgan hindsight rightious brigade
27/01/2021 12:12:57 1 1
bbc
??. As the person said 'Give it a rest'.
27/01/2021 12:19:45 1 1
bbc
And you could of done better yes.
27/01/2021 12:36:34 2 4
bbc
Country is rammed jam full, I believe that is why the virus spreads.
27/01/2021 12:37:21 1 5
bbc
The only people angry are socialists and Liberals.
27
27/01/2021 10:29:38 5 11
bbc
I don't even want to think it, but I wonder if someone in government has thought about the savings from state pension payments they have gained from these poor souls that have passed away from covid.
45
27/01/2021 10:31:48 4 4
bbc
pension payments are provided by an element of current workers national insurance, not from money the pensioners think they have 'saved' over their working life.
278
27/01/2021 10:51:09 0 0
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But those 'current' incomes will still come in and the outgoings will stop. Gazzer is correct.
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27/01/2021 10:31:55 0 4
bbc
IF........
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sw
27/01/2021 10:32:01 7 7
bbc
Publishing criteria is fine, as long as it is not the greenlight for people to go on about opening things up too early, like the last 2 times. Bungling Boris will cave in again, with opening the schools up, before the R number is low enough, 0,1 for example.
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27/01/2021 10:47:54 1 3
bbc
You may like to be in lockdown for a year,most people want their freedom back.This situation is causing more harm than good.How many people are dying from other illnesses.What about tsunami of mental health problems which will overwhelm the NHS.Who is going to pay for theNHS with no economy.People need to stop being wimpy and realise life is a risk and we cant spend it behind closed doors.
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27/01/2021 10:32:06 13 17
bbc
100,000 plus deaths on a virus that virtually nothing was known about it. The labour party blame the government for all the deaths on bad decisions etc, yet sir kermit also backs the pm and then stabs the pm in the back. A labour government could not have done anything differently. Lockdown could last till end of March, and schools , universities, colleges should stay closed .
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FF
27/01/2021 10:35:54 8 4
bbc
What's the point in shoulda woulda coulda by Labour? They aren't in power. The buck stops with the Tories. Typical deflection though by saying "But if Labour was........."

Bla Bla
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27/01/2021 10:37:09 1 3
bbc
Many countries did things differently and better. Why couldn't we?

We could have locked down a week earlier in the Spring. Many scientists wanted it but business didn't. Cost 20000 lives and extended the first lockdown by weeks.

Same thing this time. Started the second lockdown too late, the eased restrictions too early - to appease the business lobby. Ironically neither delay helped businesses
27/01/2021 13:25:53 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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27/01/2021 10:27:35 316 230
bbc
"Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month"

That'll be Bozo the Clown who bragged about shaking hands with Covid patients and then caught Covid which nearly killed him.

It would be safer to have the village idiot publish the criteria.
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27/01/2021 10:32:06 224 77
bbc
Grayling and Williamson are too busy doing village idiot things for that
477
27/01/2021 11:06:33 4 7
bbc
The other village idiots are no longer in the Shadow Cabinet either. Think what they may have achieved!
488
27/01/2021 11:07:14 5 1
bbc
Post of the day.
27/01/2021 12:15:16 1 3
bbc
Discriminatory to people who live in villages. In this world of political correctness you need to be called out.
27/01/2021 13:16:17 1 2
bbc
We would have been far better with Comrade Corbyn and Captain Hindsight.
50
27/01/2021 10:32:18 19 13
bbc
There is no data on the length of immunity for vaccines yet. How on earth can lockdown be planned unless you have data. This is the problem when there is no news.
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27/01/2021 10:38:51 17 15
bbc
If the vaccine doesn’t work we go back to normal and the terminally terrified can lock themselves down
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27/01/2021 10:29:40 128 53
bbc
Impossible to plan until Covid is under control.
If the R rate/ infections are still high coming out of lockdown is pointless
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27/01/2021 10:32:25 104 69
bbc
Agreed, but what defines "under control"? What is the criteria for this? This is what we want to know! Boris loves his "war" analogies, well can you imagine fighting a war without any plan whatsoever? Well that's Boris for you!??
795
27/01/2021 11:34:35 2 3
bbc
If you knew the criteria what difference would it make? Would you change your behaviour and the behaviour of freinds and family around you, so as to encourage the criteria to be met, or do you want to know the criteria just so you can have another anti-tory rant complaining about them.
27/01/2021 13:17:21 0 0
bbc
Rant, rage, fume, complain.

Well, that's the lefties for you.
27/01/2021 13:41:04 0 0
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OK, to keep it simple for you. Under control means when the number of us being infected is falling and continues to do so.
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27/01/2021 10:32:30 16 15
bbc
"hopes to"

So I'll expect it to be delayed, bounced and further delayed. You can't get a straight answer out of this clown.
53
27/01/2021 10:32:35 15 23
bbc
Doubtless Sir Keir Weathervane will criticise this decision, with the benefit of hindsight of course
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27/01/2021 10:33:55 8 5
bbc
Yawn
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27/01/2021 10:34:31 3 3
bbc
Another one who doesn't know what 'hindsight' means.

'The right honourable gentleman wants to cancel Christmas'
Using hindsight is a good thing. You can learn from past mistakes.

As we are now in our third national lockdown and the death rate is higher than the first peak,, Bozo has failed to learn anything from HIS mistakes.
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27/01/2021 10:29:52 18 26
bbc
I feel for the Government. They cannot do wrong for doing right.

This is a nightmare scenario for every country in the world. Our death rates are probably due to the fact that the younger echelons of society refuse to stay locked down and are spreading it all over the place.

There is also a direct correlation to highly liberal societies to high transmission. Go figure.
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27/01/2021 10:32:42 1 6
bbc
So why have Sweden fared better ?
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jon
27/01/2021 10:41:59 3 1
bbc
They have a far worse record than their Scandinavian neighbours.
187
27/01/2021 10:44:51 2 0
bbc
Because they have a population that follows advice unlike the rubbish people in the UK.
310
27/01/2021 10:54:05 0 1
bbc
I am not sure Sweden is a good example. Higher death rate and bigger economic crash than their Nordic peers. But yes somehow Sweden did better so far than the UK. This only puts the UK further into Shame They tried and failed more than a country that did nothing.
27/01/2021 12:56:09 0 0
bbc
Sssshhhh the lockdown zealots don't like you mentioning Sweden and they will try to rubbish anything that displays they have fared much better than us with our umpteen lockdowns. Theyll prattle on about population density and then lambast us whilst holding up New Zealand as the example to follow. Ding ding hello population density.
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27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
bbc
The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
55
27/01/2021 10:32:44 5 2
bbc
Daft post. You must be trolling, right ?
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27/01/2021 10:30:49 44 26
bbc
Given that the average age of those in ICU from COVID is 58, and it will be some time before the over 50s will receive the vaccine; it will be best to wait for a fair amount of time before relaxing restrictions.
56
27/01/2021 10:32:47 15 24
bbc
Source please. Otherwise it's spurious.
125
27/01/2021 10:39:26 10 2
bbc
It was on the news if you cared to watch. Also this is what BJ meant about the new strain being deadly - those of younger age are being hospitalised in ICU than previous.
414
27/01/2021 11:01:46 6 0
bbc
"spurious"???? - the vast majority of HYS commentary falls into this category!!
CJR
27/01/2021 12:16:36 2 0
bbc
Oh do keep up.
57
27/01/2021 10:33:01 8 13
bbc
Next month is vague in itself. next Monday or 4 weeks time? All just deflection tactics to get away form 100k deaths.
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Bob
27/01/2021 10:33:12 11 16
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A former senior prosecutor for the North West stated on BBC Breakfast today we need to start a full public enquiry into ministers handling of the pandemic NOW. Any delay gives them time and opportunity to disappear and more public funds being misappropriated. Their friends and families must also be held to account for financial gains made attributable to ministers incompetence and corruption
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27/01/2021 10:33:17 12 14
bbc
This story is an attempt to distract attention from the 100k death toll and Johnson's culpability and incompetence .
Nothing more
CJR
27/01/2021 11:59:56 0 1
bbc
Please post your evidence
27/01/2021 13:26:52 0 0
bbc
Utter drivel, what evidence have you to back that up..
60
27/01/2021 10:33:33 8 14
bbc
The way the they have handled the pandemic makes me ashamed to have voted for this government. Having said that, the alternative was Corbyn.
94
27/01/2021 10:36:51 1 3
bbc
I think you will find you can't prove a 'Negative' as in Corbyn? You have no idea what would have done. His approach would have had NOTHING to do with his politics at all but you make a statement such as you have with no evidence.
127
27/01/2021 10:39:28 0 1
bbc
We had a very poor choice of leader of the two main political parties in the last general election.
Not surprising then that we got a failing PM.
27/01/2021 13:27:16 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
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27/01/2021 10:33:38 19 17
bbc
Imagine STILL thinking this Government is in any way competent?

How many deaths until you start questioning your choices?

Do Brits just like being lied to?
182
27/01/2021 10:44:39 2 1
bbc
The Brexit effect lingers in the red wall areas - and even that is going sour (ask a fisherman).
27/01/2021 13:27:36 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
15
27/01/2021 10:27:35 316 230
bbc
"Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month"

That'll be Bozo the Clown who bragged about shaking hands with Covid patients and then caught Covid which nearly killed him.

It would be safer to have the village idiot publish the criteria.
62
27/01/2021 10:33:47 31 7
bbc
Let's face it, many people will have stopped reading the article after the first 3 words:

"The PM hopes..."
37
27/01/2021 10:30:30 8 19
bbc
Don't ease restrictions, simple. There was no guide book on handling this sort of pandemic, and I believe no-one else could have done a better job when you consider population density, being a global travel hub etc. Now though, harsh lessons have been learnt, and harsh lock downs should continue until a cross party and scientific agreement is found. We Are All In This Together!!
63
27/01/2021 10:33:48 2 5
bbc
"There was no guide book"

There was, we just didn't bother reading it as it was published in 1918.
258
27/01/2021 10:49:51 2 1
bbc
The world is a very different place now compared to 1918. Italy were the first in lockdown Lessons could have been learned earlier. Many countries around the world handled it better. But as a newly elected PM with an 80 seat majority he still prefers populism over prudence this is the real issue.
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27/01/2021 10:26:12 401 238
bbc
But Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick insisted the government had taken "the best scientific and medical advice".

Yes but usually several weeks too late because they don’t seem to like following sages or labours lead
64
27/01/2021 10:33:55 273 39
bbc
Taking "the best scientific and medical advice" is a completely different thing to following "the best scientific and medical advice".
95
27/01/2021 10:37:00 28 5
bbc
Ah, so they took the advice, passed it around the office for a few weeks and then decided to follow it... sounds about right
102
27/01/2021 10:37:44 22 8
bbc
Medical advice; one uses it to make decisions.

Given the 100,000 deaths, the wrong ones, it appears.
578
27/01/2021 11:15:56 6 0
bbc
"Taking" as in "listening to". Doesn't mean actually doing, or even if doing, doing promptly or robustly enough.
53
27/01/2021 10:32:35 15 23
bbc
Doubtless Sir Keir Weathervane will criticise this decision, with the benefit of hindsight of course
65
27/01/2021 10:33:55 8 5
bbc
Yawn
23
27/01/2021 10:29:15 396 226
bbc
Give it a rest BBC. Let's have a day of reflection not yet another day of hatred from the keyboard warriors.
66
27/01/2021 10:33:57 5 17
bbc
I should report your post for flagrant breach of some sht stirrer in the BBC's criteria for HYS
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CW
27/01/2021 10:34:11 17 15
bbc
Yesterday Boris should have said “I have made mistakes. I am truly sorry.” Instead, he insults all those who have suffered as a consequence of his mistakes by claiming he did all he could. Today's announcement is just something to encourage the media to steer away from yesterdays grim news.
18
27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
bbc
The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
68
27/01/2021 10:34:16 1 2
bbc
Well done! Nice deflection, a CCHQ "Gold Star" is on its way to you!??
69
27/01/2021 10:34:19 11 14
bbc
The words "Boris Johnson" and "hard work" cannot be used in the same sentence...
109
27/01/2021 10:38:22 0 2
bbc
Boris Johnson demonstrates exactly why we know hard work, intelligence and integrity isn't required to get to the top, it's who you know, not what you know.
So you're wrong!
70
27/01/2021 10:34:30 8 7
bbc
Are we finally about to get a coherent strategy?
90
27/01/2021 10:36:25 3 3
bbc
No...
183
27/01/2021 10:44:41 0 1
bbc
Nope! Just more waffle, bluster & excuses!??
53
27/01/2021 10:32:35 15 23
bbc
Doubtless Sir Keir Weathervane will criticise this decision, with the benefit of hindsight of course
71
27/01/2021 10:34:31 3 3
bbc
Another one who doesn't know what 'hindsight' means.

'The right honourable gentleman wants to cancel Christmas'
96
27/01/2021 10:37:09 2 3
bbc
That sounds like foresight to me; future tense

So it seems that you are the one who doesn't know what hindsight means

PMSL
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27/01/2021 10:34:42 14 14
bbc
Now this country has hit such an appalling death figure which a lot of it has been caused an incompetent Prime Minister, assisted by a cabinet which is completely out of it's depth.
It's now time for the Prime Minister to resign. Trying to be popular, coming out with nothing but stupidity and completely making a hash of everything he does is no way to run a country.
Fall on your sword now.
27/01/2021 13:28:11 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
73
27/01/2021 10:34:45 9 16
bbc
Indeed. We are so obsessed and indoctrinated with the number of deaths that we've forgot the other side of Covid. The deaths and lives ruined by the restrictions. But the BBC don't want to discuss this. They'd rather focus on numbers of deaths and reports from hospitals about Covid instead of getting out there and finding out the even worse impact of this pandemic. The restrictions.
92
27/01/2021 10:36:36 8 5
bbc
Also notice how the BBC barely mention the riots in the Netherlands due to curfew and the 30K businesses in Italy who told their government to shove their lockdown and reopened anyway.
166
27/01/2021 10:43:02 1 0
bbc
Quite agree.Cure is worse than disease.The media is obsessed with only reporting doom and gloom but omit to say how harmful lockdowns are and repercussions of which will last years,probably long after the virus becomes a seasonal thing like flu.Life must go on,risk is something we have to live with.Mass hysteria is not helpful.Im afraid Im beginning to tune out when they start droning on.
199
27/01/2021 10:45:36 1 1
bbc
You seem to be choosing to forget those who will never recover from the non fatal damage Covid-19 does to the body - even for asymptomatic cases.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/08/17/covid-19-can-cause-heart-damageeven-if-you-are-asymptomatic/?sh=4e7200606cef

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00039-8/fulltext

There Is No Alternative ( ;-) )
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FF
27/01/2021 10:45:49 0 0
bbc
I think everyone is well aware of the effects of Lockdown. No Sh&*t Sherlock!
342
27/01/2021 10:56:43 1 0
bbc
'More or Less' (R4 this morning) is always a sensible look at facts over opinions. One surprising(?) fact is that deaths from other causes have NOT increased; the change is that more of them have been at home (which most people prefer anyway). Unlike the dead, business life will bounce back (but didn't Johnson say "F**k business" anyway).
18
27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
bbc
The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
74
27/01/2021 10:34:48 3 2
bbc
then we'll all die of starvation
5
27/01/2021 10:25:34 13 48
bbc
I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
75
27/01/2021 10:34:55 6 2
bbc
So what? They have less right to life? Where on earth are you coming from?

Ready for a mutation that seriously effects those much younger? Failure to suppress cases across the population results in more mutations. The SARS outbreak in 2003 for example.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2003/05/estimates-sars-death-rates-revised-upward

The government failed by underreacting to slowly
43
27/01/2021 10:31:43 9 16
bbc
Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month - BBC

= Dear Brits, time to overthrow this clown, or, you would get 100000 COVID deaths every 3 months !!!!!!!!
76
27/01/2021 10:34:57 2 2
bbc
That's the spirit...we need a momentum led Labour govt seizing power. They can then maintain a strict Lockdown whilst concurrently reducing unemployment and increasing wages for the working class.
132
27/01/2021 10:40:21 0 1
bbc
Don't care if it is labour or a horse, someone who can make a right decision immediately rather than this hidden lazy comedian in a bunker
77
MVP
27/01/2021 10:34:57 22 23
bbc
This pandemic has been spectacularly mishandled.

The public has lost confidence in the government's ability to get us out of this and change is required at the top.
108
27/01/2021 10:38:19 8 4
bbc
Please provide proof to support your comments or are you just another keyboard warrior
337
27/01/2021 10:56:24 0 0
bbc
Not sure the public has, at least not the Tory voting public - they are just enjoying the handouts, watching their house prices rise whilst they discretely ignore the lockdown and are outraged the "poor" are bending the same rules because they have to.
27/01/2021 13:28:55 0 0
bbc
As this subject keeps being hijacked by political observation, perhaps Boris should consider the equivalent of a War cabinet to address the Covid pandemic. Maybe making all political parties accountable for the decisions made to address the Pandemic might create consensus, and ensure that anyone, no matter their political allegiance gets behind the proposals, rather than bitching and moaning.
78
27/01/2021 10:35:00 7 24
bbc
If Matt Hancock, Whitty and SAGE have anything to do with it we won't be allowed to do anything or go anywhere until no one gets ill ever anywhere in the whole country. The bed wetting risk aversion of these people just beggers belief. Yes 100K etc, but guess what - 600K people die each year in the UK, mostly elderly from disease.
99
27/01/2021 10:37:18 2 3
bbc
I'm so glad you're not in government. You sound even worse than Johnson.
104
27/01/2021 10:37:59 0 2
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There is no valid argument in what you say. Control of this virus has been far to slow and lax. And we failed to prepare

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/28/exercise-cygnus-uncovered-pandemic-warnings-buried-government/

Appalling failure from successive Tory governments.
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27/01/2021 10:38:03 1 2
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How dare you state real facts, this is the BBC for gods sake...what we need is just to concentrate on peoples 'feelings' and then spout kneejerk reactions.
What an sheet head you are. 600K die a year? So who cares about another 100K. It's a pity they all wouldn't hurry up and die so you can get to the Cinema or out for a nice meal?

Your Mum would be so proud.
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27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
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The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
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27/01/2021 10:35:07 6 2
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A permanent lockdown? Hmmm, so the government will just print money to pay for the extension of businesses that can’t open and for people that can’t work, and cease to collect tax from said businesses and people which will no longer pay for things like, oh I don’t know, say the NHS. Well thought out point Mr. De Vert
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27/01/2021 10:27:35 316 230
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"Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month"

That'll be Bozo the Clown who bragged about shaking hands with Covid patients and then caught Covid which nearly killed him.

It would be safer to have the village idiot publish the criteria.
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27/01/2021 10:35:21 5 3
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we're ready for you whenever you are
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27/01/2021 10:29:52 18 26
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I feel for the Government. They cannot do wrong for doing right.

This is a nightmare scenario for every country in the world. Our death rates are probably due to the fact that the younger echelons of society refuse to stay locked down and are spreading it all over the place.

There is also a direct correlation to highly liberal societies to high transmission. Go figure.
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27/01/2021 10:35:34 1 4
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This govt, and Johnson and Hancock in particular, are 100% responsible for every wrong decision they made over these past 14 months.
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27/01/2021 10:29:57 5 12
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How can you believe the figures when the PCR test can not isolate the virus?
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27/01/2021 10:38:37 2 0
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So we can't believe any other countries figures either
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27/01/2021 10:40:34 3 0
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So those dead folk not really dead then?

You might not believe the PCR test to be wholly accurate. Fine, it isn't. But it is inaccurate consistently so you can believe the trend.
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27/01/2021 10:25:34 13 48
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I give up .... 95% of people that die WITH Covid not OF Covid are OLD
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27/01/2021 10:30:09 6 2
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It has been suggested that "OLD" people still have lives, relatives, and even some value. [citation needed]
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27/01/2021 10:35:38 14 16
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There's very little enthusiasm around these vaccines. I've already heard a few excuses and now the supply chains are threatened. BoJo looked like kicked c*ap last night. Certainly not a man riding a country out of a devastating pandemic, more like a man that's been told we're not even half way there.
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27/01/2021 10:37:58 4 3
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You've heard ... gee that must be true
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27/01/2021 10:42:25 3 0
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"There's very little enthusiasm around these vaccines"

Is that why there are huge queues outside vacc centres and production being outstripped by demand both here and EU?
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27/01/2021 10:49:56 0 1
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He couldn't get away with his normal jolly look when announcing 100000 deaths, I'd like to think he'd realised he was culpable for a lot of those and was going to take responsibility but I won't hold my breath.
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27/01/2021 10:32:06 13 17
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100,000 plus deaths on a virus that virtually nothing was known about it. The labour party blame the government for all the deaths on bad decisions etc, yet sir kermit also backs the pm and then stabs the pm in the back. A labour government could not have done anything differently. Lockdown could last till end of March, and schools , universities, colleges should stay closed .
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27/01/2021 10:35:54 8 4
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What's the point in shoulda woulda coulda by Labour? They aren't in power. The buck stops with the Tories. Typical deflection though by saying "But if Labour was........."

Bla Bla
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27/01/2021 12:06:28 0 0
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Thank god it’s not labour
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27/01/2021 10:31:43 9 16
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Boris Johnson hopes to publish criteria for easing lockdown next month - BBC

= Dear Brits, time to overthrow this clown, or, you would get 100000 COVID deaths every 3 months !!!!!!!!
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27/01/2021 10:35:55 2 2
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Dear dear twit
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27/01/2021 10:36:06 14 12
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Because Christmas work out sooooooooooooooooo well
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27/01/2021 10:30:30 8 19
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Don't ease restrictions, simple. There was no guide book on handling this sort of pandemic, and I believe no-one else could have done a better job when you consider population density, being a global travel hub etc. Now though, harsh lessons have been learnt, and harsh lock downs should continue until a cross party and scientific agreement is found. We Are All In This Together!!
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27/01/2021 10:36:16 0 2
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Obviously they could have done a much better job.
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27/01/2021 10:34:30 8 7
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Are we finally about to get a coherent strategy?
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27/01/2021 10:36:25 3 3
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No...
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27/01/2021 10:26:12 401 238
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But Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick insisted the government had taken "the best scientific and medical advice".

Yes but usually several weeks too late because they don’t seem to like following sages or labours lead
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27/01/2021 10:36:34 12 20
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Or Nicola's, for that matter.
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27/01/2021 10:39:16 35 17
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Quick englands doing terribly, let’s deflect to Scotland or the EU before people realise....
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27/01/2021 10:34:45 9 16
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Indeed. We are so obsessed and indoctrinated with the number of deaths that we've forgot the other side of Covid. The deaths and lives ruined by the restrictions. But the BBC don't want to discuss this. They'd rather focus on numbers of deaths and reports from hospitals about Covid instead of getting out there and finding out the even worse impact of this pandemic. The restrictions.
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27/01/2021 10:36:36 8 5
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Also notice how the BBC barely mention the riots in the Netherlands due to curfew and the 30K businesses in Italy who told their government to shove their lockdown and reopened anyway.
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27/01/2021 10:44:43 1 2
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Yes,Im waiting for riots in uk when people realise they no longer have jobs or prospects because of lockdowns that dont work.We should not accept things like sheep.I think a lot of people have been brainwashed by the rubbish churned out by the media every hour of the day.
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27/01/2021 10:46:38 0 1
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No point in cover a bunch of asshats who clearly haven't got a clue.
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27/01/2021 10:40:21 1 0
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Not to mention radio silence on anything 'yellow vest' from France, but I believe there was a section 14 order on that, lest we got ideas in the UK. But rioting fortunately isn't the way we do things in the UK, Piers Corbyn and Lawrence Fox is about as radical as we get!
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27/01/2021 10:28:47 99 113
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I wonder what it feels like to be partly responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 people. Even Bozo must be reeling...
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27/01/2021 10:36:43 17 8
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He looked hopelessly out of his depth again yesterday at the daily briefing!??
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27/01/2021 10:33:33 8 14
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The way the they have handled the pandemic makes me ashamed to have voted for this government. Having said that, the alternative was Corbyn.
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27/01/2021 10:36:51 1 3
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I think you will find you can't prove a 'Negative' as in Corbyn? You have no idea what would have done. His approach would have had NOTHING to do with his politics at all but you make a statement such as you have with no evidence.
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27/01/2021 10:42:41 5 0
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That’s true. Good job my opinion doesn’t have to be based on fact. The manner in which Corbyn conducts himself, his extreme sympathy with terrorist groups and his systematic failure to stamp out antisemitism within his own Party clearly demonstrates what we could have expected if he were to have been in office. We could also have looked forward to Diane Abbott as shadow Home Secretary.
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27/01/2021 10:50:21 2 0
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You conveniently forget that in Feb. 2020 Labour, SNP and Lib.Dems were invited to look at setting up a cross party committee to try and find a common strategy and they all refused.
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27/01/2021 10:33:55 273 39
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Taking "the best scientific and medical advice" is a completely different thing to following "the best scientific and medical advice".
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27/01/2021 10:37:00 28 5
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Ah, so they took the advice, passed it around the office for a few weeks and then decided to follow it... sounds about right
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27/01/2021 10:34:31 3 3
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Another one who doesn't know what 'hindsight' means.

'The right honourable gentleman wants to cancel Christmas'
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27/01/2021 10:37:09 2 3
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That sounds like foresight to me; future tense

So it seems that you are the one who doesn't know what hindsight means

PMSL
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27/01/2021 10:32:06 13 17
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100,000 plus deaths on a virus that virtually nothing was known about it. The labour party blame the government for all the deaths on bad decisions etc, yet sir kermit also backs the pm and then stabs the pm in the back. A labour government could not have done anything differently. Lockdown could last till end of March, and schools , universities, colleges should stay closed .
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27/01/2021 10:37:09 1 3
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Many countries did things differently and better. Why couldn't we?

We could have locked down a week earlier in the Spring. Many scientists wanted it but business didn't. Cost 20000 lives and extended the first lockdown by weeks.

Same thing this time. Started the second lockdown too late, the eased restrictions too early - to appease the business lobby. Ironically neither delay helped businesses
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27/01/2021 10:32:35 15 23
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Doubtless Sir Keir Weathervane will criticise this decision, with the benefit of hindsight of course
Using hindsight is a good thing. You can learn from past mistakes.

As we are now in our third national lockdown and the death rate is higher than the first peak,, Bozo has failed to learn anything from HIS mistakes.
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27/01/2021 10:39:26 2 3
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And you Comrades continue to use childish name-calling (i.e 'Bozo') despite the fact that it alienates most traditional & moderate Labour supporters. Perhaps one day you will learn from your mistakes?
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27/01/2021 10:35:00 7 24
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If Matt Hancock, Whitty and SAGE have anything to do with it we won't be allowed to do anything or go anywhere until no one gets ill ever anywhere in the whole country. The bed wetting risk aversion of these people just beggers belief. Yes 100K etc, but guess what - 600K people die each year in the UK, mostly elderly from disease.
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27/01/2021 10:37:18 2 3
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I'm so glad you're not in government. You sound even worse than Johnson.
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27/01/2021 10:38:53 0 1
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Says someone who no doubt is nicely comfortable working from home or a pensioner sitting in a nice house on a fat pension pot. I'm tired of hearing from people like you.
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27/01/2021 10:39:28 0 0
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Worse than Johnson?!!!lololololol This is simply unachievable -- for anyone.
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27/01/2021 10:28:26 5 34
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The Lockdown cannot be lifted, if anything it must be made stricter, with all shops closed and no leaving the house for any reason...curfews and banning driving must also be brought in. The Lockdown must also be made permanent as the virus mutates and another virus could come along at any time, this is the only way to protect and save lives.
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27/01/2021 10:37:28 3 2
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10/10.

Shame there are so many people who didn't even bother to look at your username before posting.