Opening schools a national priority, says government
26/01/2021 | news | education | 244
Schools Minister Nick Gibb says schools and families will have two weeks' notice for reopening.
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26/01/2021 15:04:33 19 2
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Gibbs the education departments answer to Grayling. Anything he says should be regarded with suspicion. He is more concerned with a political position that the well being of children and staff in school. He made a statement in an almost empty chamber well socially distanced unlike schools!
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26/01/2021 15:06:10 35 8
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The national priority should be to control the spread of CV19, and children are very good at spreading it.

The Government's own stats have shown that schools and Universities were prime spreaders, so no it doesn't make sense to reopen them again any time soon.
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26/01/2021 15:09:15 21 11
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The Tories are more concerned about the parents of school kids being away from work. Oh, for leaders like Australia and New Zealand have.
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26/01/2021 15:06:43 1 14
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Well hang on a second here, don't you want to continue to destroy the lives of these kids, just to give your elderly voters a few moments longer in their lifespans, just a little bit longer?
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26/01/2021 15:11:20 4 2
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So you would cut short the life of people, who made you God?

For a little longer, read up to 1-5 years!
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26/01/2021 15:13:32 3 1
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Seriously? Quite pathetic.
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26/01/2021 15:16:32 3 1
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Cannot believe you.
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26/01/2021 15:25:20 1 6
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Ruining the lives of 66 million to extend the poor-quality lives of 1m OAPs is not a sensible trade off. Open schools and care homes NOW.
Imagine being like Johnson and having 6 children to try to home school? Well, 6 that we know of. And he's only with the mother of the latest one. And I don't expect he has much to teach them, unless they want to know about being repeatedly sacked for lying in which case he's probably an expert in that field given that he was too dishonest to cut it as a journalist. Removed
I'd be interested if Bojo's 6 kids have ever been in the same place at the same time, let alone with him in charge! Removed
What great moral standards the tories have

Elect a leader who is a known liar, a cheat, an adulterer and "living in sin" with his mistress at number 10
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26/01/2021 15:06:10 35 8
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The national priority should be to control the spread of CV19, and children are very good at spreading it.

The Government's own stats have shown that schools and Universities were prime spreaders, so no it doesn't make sense to reopen them again any time soon.
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26/01/2021 15:09:15 21 11
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The Tories are more concerned about the parents of school kids being away from work. Oh, for leaders like Australia and New Zealand have.
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26/01/2021 15:14:07 2 2
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Are they? I see. You must be very wise.
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26/01/2021 15:09:50 8 5
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They say it, but what they mean is "nothing matters except Covid". Schools are not important. Children are not important. They can wait, despite the effect this will have on them. They are just not a priority.
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26/01/2021 17:59:17 1 1
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No they mean education is more important than schooling vested interests which is but a poor lowest common denominator method, not actually education itself. Out of date and era, schooling will die out like high street shops. First adapters win.
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26/01/2021 15:06:43 1 14
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Well hang on a second here, don't you want to continue to destroy the lives of these kids, just to give your elderly voters a few moments longer in their lifespans, just a little bit longer?
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26/01/2021 15:11:20 4 2
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So you would cut short the life of people, who made you God?

For a little longer, read up to 1-5 years!
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26/01/2021 15:12:11 41 13
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Are we really still running with this story because a few Tory MPs on the right wing of the party have stamped their feet?

Schools open and then people die. What's difficult about this?

Listen to the 'moderate' Tory voices - Hunt, most of the Cabinet etc and they're all clearly saying staggered opening after Easter or we're into lockdown number 4.
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26/01/2021 15:17:33 23 6
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Perhaps people will appreciate teachers more now they've gone without for a bit....although I doubt it
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26/01/2021 15:23:19 3 13
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By Easter, 99% of the at risk will have been vaccinated. All schools should be opened by then.
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26/01/2021 18:20:05 3 0
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Would Hunt have been a better PM during this crisis? I would like to think so. Just heard Boris blustering again on TV. Why doesn't he resign - he probably wants to. He sounds more and more like Trump, no real clue but happy to say government has done all it could - track and trace a disaster not the world beating system he promised; delays on lock down etc etc the list grows. A one term PM
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26/01/2021 15:06:43 1 14
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Well hang on a second here, don't you want to continue to destroy the lives of these kids, just to give your elderly voters a few moments longer in their lifespans, just a little bit longer?
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26/01/2021 15:13:32 3 1
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Seriously? Quite pathetic.
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26/01/2021 15:09:15 21 11
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The Tories are more concerned about the parents of school kids being away from work. Oh, for leaders like Australia and New Zealand have.
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26/01/2021 15:14:07 2 2
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Are they? I see. You must be very wise.
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26/01/2021 15:15:57 5 0
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As usual everyone moans and complains

But never give a solution - What would you do?
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26/01/2021 15:17:32 1 0
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What would you do?
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26/01/2021 15:19:00 4 8
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I'd re-open the schools. I wouldn't have shut them to begin with. If teachers or anyone else has someone vulnerable at home, then they should shield, but shutting every school down just to protect the few is complete overkill.
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26/01/2021 17:48:16 1 1
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Easy close all schools. Nurseries, too. For a whole school year at a time until there is no more virus issue. That way all get the same professional central made lessons. Making it fair to all. Put the school staff on UC. Remote education is easy to deliver, by tv, internet, to older dvd, or books!
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26/01/2021 18:42:42 0 0
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Move from 4.5 hours teaching for all children over 5 days a week for 39 weeks a year to 2.5 hours a day, spread over 8.00am to 6.00pm over 6 days a week for 45 weeks a year.

Class sizes thus reduced from ca 32 to ca 6. Pay teachers more for the additional hours worked. Fewer pupils in class so less stress too.

Solved (and suggested in March 2020). Could be in place for Monday.
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26/01/2021 15:06:43 1 14
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Well hang on a second here, don't you want to continue to destroy the lives of these kids, just to give your elderly voters a few moments longer in their lifespans, just a little bit longer?
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26/01/2021 15:16:32 3 1
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Cannot believe you.
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26/01/2021 15:16:36 4 2
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Hmmm. Is there anything here that is new? Not sure why this counts as news
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26/01/2021 15:15:57 5 0
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As usual everyone moans and complains

But never give a solution - What would you do?
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26/01/2021 15:17:32 1 0
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What would you do?
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26/01/2021 15:12:11 41 13
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Are we really still running with this story because a few Tory MPs on the right wing of the party have stamped their feet?

Schools open and then people die. What's difficult about this?

Listen to the 'moderate' Tory voices - Hunt, most of the Cabinet etc and they're all clearly saying staggered opening after Easter or we're into lockdown number 4.
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26/01/2021 15:17:33 23 6
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Perhaps people will appreciate teachers more now they've gone without for a bit....although I doubt it
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26/01/2021 17:28:40 4 5
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No. I suspect people are realising how tiny the amount of time any individual child gets one to one with a teacher when they start experiencing it directly. A few mins each a day. That is what schooling is. Utterly useless at educating individuals. It is only valued as free childcare as shown by those using it currently.
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26/01/2021 21:37:26 5 2
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My students did thank me for marking their recent mock papers so quickly. I started at 9am on a Saturday and finished after 9pm on the Sunday.
Another typically lazy teacher!
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27/01/2021 12:26:54 0 0
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Haha that is hilarious
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26/01/2021 15:17:59 18 2
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At least be honest and say you want cheap childcare back as soon as possible!

Be more convincing if they talked about education rather than schooling: schools are social institutions and as such would be something you would want to avoid!

There are growing calls for the govt. to review where we are and deal with it another way! They have stalled the broadband roll-out so that cuts down options!
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26/01/2021 15:15:57 5 0
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As usual everyone moans and complains

But never give a solution - What would you do?
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26/01/2021 15:19:00 4 8
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I'd re-open the schools. I wouldn't have shut them to begin with. If teachers or anyone else has someone vulnerable at home, then they should shield, but shutting every school down just to protect the few is complete overkill.
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26/01/2021 15:35:50 6 1
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And how would you run the school effectively, with staff off shielding?
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26/01/2021 21:28:21 0 0
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OK, but what about all the students and staff who have to be sent home to self-isolate every time there’s a case in their bubble? Many kids will simply end up spending more time at home than in school this way. This was happening in December up and down the country and will happen again if schools go back in the same conditions. We need properly thought through solutions!
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26/01/2021 15:20:16 41 8
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If this lockdown is to be the last we can't afford to make the same mistakes of the past. Children may well be safe from this virus but their carers, parents and grandparents are not guaranteed a free pass from the effects of Covid 19. Too many lives, jobs and futures lost to mess up now. Save the NHS, Save Lives and invest in the education of our children in order to catch up later in the year.
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26/01/2021 15:25:02 6 6
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Vaccination for teachers and back to school for children is a must.
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ike
26/01/2021 16:05:05 3 3
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I don’t mind children going back to school, what I don’t like is the behaviour of the majority of them on there way to school and at lunch breaks. The shops are packed with them and not a mask in sight.
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26/01/2021 15:12:11 41 13
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Are we really still running with this story because a few Tory MPs on the right wing of the party have stamped their feet?

Schools open and then people die. What's difficult about this?

Listen to the 'moderate' Tory voices - Hunt, most of the Cabinet etc and they're all clearly saying staggered opening after Easter or we're into lockdown number 4.
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26/01/2021 15:23:19 3 13
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By Easter, 99% of the at risk will have been vaccinated. All schools should be opened by then.
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26/01/2021 16:15:47 5 2
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Really
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26/01/2021 15:17:33 23 6
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Perhaps people will appreciate teachers more now they've gone without for a bit....although I doubt it
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26/01/2021 15:06:43 1 14
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Well hang on a second here, don't you want to continue to destroy the lives of these kids, just to give your elderly voters a few moments longer in their lifespans, just a little bit longer?
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26/01/2021 15:25:20 1 6
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Ruining the lives of 66 million to extend the poor-quality lives of 1m OAPs is not a sensible trade off. Open schools and care homes NOW.
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26/01/2021 15:31:11 7 1
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It's amazing, there are STILL people around who think it only effect old people. If only you could spend one day observing in the back of my wife's ambulance. But I suspect you wouldn't care anyway, as long as you are OK.
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Imagine being like Johnson and having 6 children to try to home school? Well, 6 that we know of. And he's only with the mother of the latest one. And I don't expect he has much to teach them, unless they want to know about being repeatedly sacked for lying in which case he's probably an expert in that field given that he was too dishonest to cut it as a journalist. Removed
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I'd be interested if Bojo's 6 kids have ever been in the same place at the same time, let alone with him in charge! Removed
Maybe one day, but I expect there would be a Judge and a lot of solicitors there too. Removed
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26/01/2021 15:25:20 1 6
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Ruining the lives of 66 million to extend the poor-quality lives of 1m OAPs is not a sensible trade off. Open schools and care homes NOW.
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26/01/2021 15:31:11 7 1
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It's amazing, there are STILL people around who think it only effect old people. If only you could spend one day observing in the back of my wife's ambulance. But I suspect you wouldn't care anyway, as long as you are OK.
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26/01/2021 15:49:53 2 3
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I hope he ends up there, and they have ran out of oxygen.
I'd be interested if Bojo's 6 kids have ever been in the same place at the same time, let alone with him in charge! Removed
Maybe one day, but I expect there would be a Judge and a lot of solicitors there too. Removed
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26/01/2021 15:32:21 1 4
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Given that the schools are still closed, then it is clearly not a national priority. I will open 10 schools myself if you slipped me £50.
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26/01/2021 15:53:53 4 0
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School's aren't closed.
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26/01/2021 15:35:00 23 3
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"Children" are not a separate chunk of the population that are any different from others. Children, and the adults who take them to school or spend time in the classrooms with them, don't stop being susceptible to COVID just because some other people have been vaccinated. Look at the graph of cases after schools & unis went back in September, compared to lockdown restrictions lifting in July.
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26/01/2021 15:50:41 2 3
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I agree. Children should be made to work just like adults.
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27/01/2021 10:30:35 0 0
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By the time schools went back, so much of society had reopened that it was no longer possible to attribute true sources of transmission. People had been told by the government to relax and they did. Also, recall the sudden and huge pressure on testing as teachers and children were told to get multiple tests = more infection identified.
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27/01/2021 12:32:24 0 0
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Lumping all schools and universities together is illogical. We know younger children are much less likely to get C19, university students are adults and I think we can safely assume have much wider social contacts than younger children.
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26/01/2021 15:19:00 4 8
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I'd re-open the schools. I wouldn't have shut them to begin with. If teachers or anyone else has someone vulnerable at home, then they should shield, but shutting every school down just to protect the few is complete overkill.
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26/01/2021 15:35:50 6 1
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And how would you run the school effectively, with staff off shielding?
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26/01/2021 15:42:24 27 4
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Our Govt are pretty much run by our media. Whatever appears on the front page of the tabloids seems to become policy very quickly. Open schools again now and we will be in trouble again
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26/01/2021 15:54:13 6 19
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Thank god that’s not true - otherwise we’d still be in the EU !
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26/01/2021 16:22:17 1 1
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Other way round, I think. Government leaks to selected media to test the response when published, then decides
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26/01/2021 15:43:48 19 8
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Many people talk of children and the impact of lost education. Some talk of the psychological needs of children, some focus on the vulnerability of children. What about the impact of losing family members to Covid 19 and the lost support of older more experienced relatives who's value rarely has a £ sign next to it and is more a lesson in compassion. Society needs everyone not just the lucky few
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26/01/2021 15:31:11 7 1
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It's amazing, there are STILL people around who think it only effect old people. If only you could spend one day observing in the back of my wife's ambulance. But I suspect you wouldn't care anyway, as long as you are OK.
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26/01/2021 15:49:53 2 3
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I hope he ends up there, and they have ran out of oxygen.
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26/01/2021 15:52:11 47 9
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When schools are open , the virus gets out of control. It’s isn’t rocket science to work out that the virus spreads anywhere there are people in a social setting. To stop the virus you need to stop social settings. Unfortunately that means that in order to keep the virus under control you need to keep schools closed , along with every other social setting!
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26/01/2021 17:22:00 3 19
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You sound like a party animal....not
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26/01/2021 18:21:54 4 2
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The infection rate among teachers who, as Office for National Statistics figures showed yesterday, are no more at risk from Covid than many other walks of life.
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26/01/2021 18:28:13 0 1
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And yet, in France and Germany and the rest, they're at school?
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26/01/2021 15:35:00 23 3
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"Children" are not a separate chunk of the population that are any different from others. Children, and the adults who take them to school or spend time in the classrooms with them, don't stop being susceptible to COVID just because some other people have been vaccinated. Look at the graph of cases after schools & unis went back in September, compared to lockdown restrictions lifting in July.
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26/01/2021 15:50:41 2 3
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I agree. Children should be made to work just like adults.
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26/01/2021 17:38:42 1 0
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Not enough chimneys need sweeping, blame central heating and gas boilers. lol
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26/01/2021 15:42:24 27 4
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Our Govt are pretty much run by our media. Whatever appears on the front page of the tabloids seems to become policy very quickly. Open schools again now and we will be in trouble again
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26/01/2021 15:54:13 6 19
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Thank god that’s not true - otherwise we’d still be in the EU !
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26/01/2021 16:18:17 6 1
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It is true and nothing to do with the eu

Typical brexiter who read only the headlines
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26/01/2021 15:32:21 1 4
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Given that the schools are still closed, then it is clearly not a national priority. I will open 10 schools myself if you slipped me £50.
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26/01/2021 15:53:53 4 0
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School's aren't closed.
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26/01/2021 16:00:43 46 3
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Hmmm...schools are not closed - one of my grandchildren (in London) and one of my sons (Chesterfield) are both teachers and are both working every day...
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26/01/2021 17:19:31 25 1
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Well said. All schools are open for key workers and vulnerable children. Also all teachers are still teaching everyday, mostly live lessons especially in the secondary school. Still contacting parents and students, still marking and giving feedback and still getting GCSE pupils prepared for the exam which might or might not go ahead.
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26/01/2021 17:30:55 3 1
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Up to half of parents are claiming to be essential workers to dump their child in the schools. They are neither open nor properly closed as they should be. Worst of all worlds to pacify child dumping parents.
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26/01/2021 18:32:11 1 13
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"Tirelessly" no doubt. They're failing though aren't they? I know of no parent able to say their children are getting even an hour's work a day, a certainly not a hour's tuition of any sort. After 10 months of planning.

The whole education industry has been shown to be practically useless.

If our supermarkets had been as useless we would all literally have starved.
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26/01/2021 16:01:07 20 4
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NHS staff are working flat out, when this is over they will require a considerable period of time to "land" and to deal what they have coped with. They have their noses to the grind stone and don't dare look up at present. That will only be possible if the infection rate in the community is on the floor, Children and School will not even be a consideration if our NHS can no longer function well .
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26/01/2021 18:36:47 3 4
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Again, deluded. Front line staff are above magnificent. Elsewhere massive proportions of NHS staff are absent. We need to be able to distinguish. If anything good was to come out of this tragedy it would be to sack 80% of the office wasters and spend every penny of the savings on front line recruitment and equipment. But we won't.
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26/01/2021 16:02:42 24 6
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Whilst it is everyone's interest to get schools back to normal this shouldn't happen until the virus is no longer a threat. I advocated that the last week prior to Xmas all schools should be closed in Scotland, they weren't and my 8 year old granddaughter tested positive for Covid after one her class mates got it which ruined her Xmas.
If you want the virus gone lock every thing down. Full stop
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26/01/2021 15:58:17 1 11
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9 out of 10 hospitalisations are over 80. Almost all of these have now been vaccinated. I am therefore confidently predicting that hospitalisations will have fallen dramatically in about 2 weeks and won't rise again no matter how many younger infections we get.

So, we should be preparing to completely reopen all schools and universities in about 2 weeks time: no ifs, buts, or ,maybes.
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26/01/2021 16:08:34 8 1
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9 out of 10 don’t be so stupid, I reckon you should go back to school.
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26/01/2021 17:07:54 0 0
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Try stating facts not your wayward dreamworld nonsense.
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26/01/2021 15:25:02 6 6
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Vaccination for teachers and back to school for children is a must.
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26/01/2021 16:05:05 3 3
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I don’t mind children going back to school, what I don’t like is the behaviour of the majority of them on there way to school and at lunch breaks. The shops are packed with them and not a mask in sight.
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26/01/2021 16:06:41 15 0
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First it was the MP's and media were crying out "close all schools now, their super spreaders"
Now it's " open up the school's now they were safe and the children are at no risk"
So if they open them and numbers increase they'll be blaming the government and saying why did they open schools to early.
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26/01/2021 15:58:17 1 11
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9 out of 10 hospitalisations are over 80. Almost all of these have now been vaccinated. I am therefore confidently predicting that hospitalisations will have fallen dramatically in about 2 weeks and won't rise again no matter how many younger infections we get.

So, we should be preparing to completely reopen all schools and universities in about 2 weeks time: no ifs, buts, or ,maybes.
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26/01/2021 16:08:34 8 1
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9 out of 10 don’t be so stupid, I reckon you should go back to school.
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26/01/2021 16:28:36 1 0
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Funny how upset people get at truths they don't like.
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26/01/2021 16:13:48 6 4
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Vaccinate teachers and staff first
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26/01/2021 16:16:17 5 1
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No, vaccinate those most likely to die first.
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26/01/2021 15:23:19 3 13
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By Easter, 99% of the at risk will have been vaccinated. All schools should be opened by then.
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26/01/2021 16:15:47 5 2
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Really
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26/01/2021 16:13:48 6 4
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Vaccinate teachers and staff first
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26/01/2021 16:16:17 5 1
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No, vaccinate those most likely to die first.
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26/01/2021 16:27:43 0 3
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Why? They'll die soon anyway. Focus on getting the country open not preserving the lives of the unproductive. Oh yeah that's right they're tory voters aren't they.
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26/01/2021 16:17:12 3 7
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Opening schools a national priority, says government

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Closing schools a national priority, says teacher unions
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26/01/2021 16:48:47 0 2
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It is the government that decided to "close" schools not the unions. Surely the Government are not scared of a few leftie teachers? I know the prime minister is scared of one union: The 1922 Committee.
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26/01/2021 16:50:50 0 1
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So are schools going to be open instead of having the long summer break? If all these open schools advocates who also go on about childrens' education is so vital, one would hope so. Watch all the teachers start to moan if that happens!!
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26/01/2021 17:10:15 1 0
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Unions don’t want to close school but want to make school safer for teachers and children. Imagine 1600 kids in a large secondary school, 30-32 crammed in small classrooms sometimes without ventilation. Now add Kent variant in the mix, you get a recipe for a disaster. One child can give it to 100s as no social distancing in schools snd then they go and spread in the community
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26/01/2021 18:37:04 0 0
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Dead teachers are not very productive. And shoving more students into the classrooms of the ones who are still alive is not usually very effective either.
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26/01/2021 16:17:29 2 7
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oh just let's get on with it, there's so much talk day after day this and that schools need to open there friends and wellbeing, and lockdowns can't go on. let's get them back in and just live with this so called virus, just like any other. parents out there are on wits end. we need normality back not living like this.nobody what they say are super spreaders, it's goverment scientist scaremongers
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26/01/2021 16:25:16 5 0
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Tell that to the relatives of the 100000 who have died
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26/01/2021 16:26:22 0 2
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Absolutely. How did we get so soft? We missed the opportunity to control it. Now we have to do what's right for our young people and livelihood. We're saddling ourselves with a billion in debt every day with this half in half out approach that doesn't work and never did.
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26/01/2021 16:44:51 2 1
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Do you know why people like you are known as covidiots

If not look in the mirror
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26/01/2021 16:58:17 0 0
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I am teaching remotely and in the last two days have spent hours speaking to parents and putting in plans to support pupils who are just not coping with lockdown learning. The open university is not a fair comparison, they are adults who choose to study for a degree at home. Teenagers need social contact. This doesn’t make me a Covidiot. It is just explaining a consequences of this route.
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26/01/2021 16:17:58 8 5
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My partner works in early years, over 60% of early years staff, since End of the first lock down have contracted the virus. Children may not suffer but are spreaders. Schooling is important, so shut them and add on a year. School used to finish at 16, now its 18.
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26/01/2021 16:22:25 3 1
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I agree much is said about lost education and yet few can say how much education has been lost some children will have been behind before the pandemic some will have been ahead, add on a year both groups win.
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26/01/2021 16:30:39 1 0
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School still finishes at 16 for most

They have a choice to stay on fur A levels, go to college, some other form of training or start work if they can find it

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
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26/01/2021 16:45:04 0 0
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Exactly Peter. There is already an extra two years schooling for children nowadays. (2014 leaving age raised to 17, 2015 it was raised to 18) They need another year off before they are missing out as much as anyone who left in 2013.
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26/01/2021 18:48:23 0 1
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And it used to finish at 4, now it's in time for a late lunch.
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26/01/2021 15:54:13 6 19
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Thank god that’s not true - otherwise we’d still be in the EU !
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26/01/2021 16:18:17 6 1
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It is true and nothing to do with the eu

Typical brexiter who read only the headlines
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26/01/2021 16:18:42 25 5
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My daughter is in school, everyday without PPE or social distancing.

A doctor was on the radio saying she would not work in a school so close to children without PPE and that the original "research" about schools being safe was based on a very small sample before the new variant had been identified. Recent research does not mention TAs who often work closely with children, including toileting!
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26/01/2021 15:42:24 27 4
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Our Govt are pretty much run by our media. Whatever appears on the front page of the tabloids seems to become policy very quickly. Open schools again now and we will be in trouble again
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26/01/2021 16:22:17 1 1
bbc
Other way round, I think. Government leaks to selected media to test the response when published, then decides
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OwO
26/01/2021 16:45:13 0 0
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And we've known they've been doing that.... basically since media was invented. You won't find any of them questioning in it though, hate to lose the scoop on headlines!
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26/01/2021 16:17:58 8 5
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My partner works in early years, over 60% of early years staff, since End of the first lock down have contracted the virus. Children may not suffer but are spreaders. Schooling is important, so shut them and add on a year. School used to finish at 16, now its 18.
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26/01/2021 16:22:25 3 1
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I agree much is said about lost education and yet few can say how much education has been lost some children will have been behind before the pandemic some will have been ahead, add on a year both groups win.
Imagine being like Johnson and having 6 children to try to home school? Well, 6 that we know of. And he's only with the mother of the latest one. And I don't expect he has much to teach them, unless they want to know about being repeatedly sacked for lying in which case he's probably an expert in that field given that he was too dishonest to cut it as a journalist. Removed
What great moral standards the tories have

Elect a leader who is a known liar, a cheat, an adulterer and "living in sin" with his mistress at number 10
Removed
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26/01/2021 16:23:56 4 6
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Good. Get to it. End lockdowns now. Who am I kidding? The gullible sheeple support it. Sacred little rabbits. Pathetic.
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26/01/2021 16:26:57 1 2
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"Sacred?" With your religious background you should be more understanding!
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26/01/2021 16:27:45 3 1
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Only when you decide to work 12 hours a day on a Covid ward, idiotic comment
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26/01/2021 16:17:29 2 7
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oh just let's get on with it, there's so much talk day after day this and that schools need to open there friends and wellbeing, and lockdowns can't go on. let's get them back in and just live with this so called virus, just like any other. parents out there are on wits end. we need normality back not living like this.nobody what they say are super spreaders, it's goverment scientist scaremongers
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26/01/2021 16:25:16 5 0
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Tell that to the relatives of the 100000 who have died
Boohoo. Sometimes people die. Get over it. Removed
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26/01/2021 17:20:44 0 1
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We would do if the figures were anything near that .
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26/01/2021 16:17:29 2 7
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oh just let's get on with it, there's so much talk day after day this and that schools need to open there friends and wellbeing, and lockdowns can't go on. let's get them back in and just live with this so called virus, just like any other. parents out there are on wits end. we need normality back not living like this.nobody what they say are super spreaders, it's goverment scientist scaremongers
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26/01/2021 16:26:22 0 2
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Absolutely. How did we get so soft? We missed the opportunity to control it. Now we have to do what's right for our young people and livelihood. We're saddling ourselves with a billion in debt every day with this half in half out approach that doesn't work and never did.
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26/01/2021 16:23:56 4 6
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Good. Get to it. End lockdowns now. Who am I kidding? The gullible sheeple support it. Sacred little rabbits. Pathetic.
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26/01/2021 16:26:57 1 2
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"Sacred?" With your religious background you should be more understanding!
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26/01/2021 16:16:17 5 1
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No, vaccinate those most likely to die first.
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26/01/2021 16:27:43 0 3
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Why? They'll die soon anyway. Focus on getting the country open not preserving the lives of the unproductive. Oh yeah that's right they're tory voters aren't they.
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26/01/2021 16:53:12 0 0
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You sound like a Josef Mengele, look him up as you obviously are not the brightest coming up with rubbish like that, oh wait you sound like a facist so you may in fact know who he was. "They will die soon anyway" what a ridiculous callous statement. Somebody could be in their 20's, are vulnerable to covid and it could kill them but if they dont catch covid could live another 50 years.
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26/01/2021 16:23:56 4 6
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Good. Get to it. End lockdowns now. Who am I kidding? The gullible sheeple support it. Sacred little rabbits. Pathetic.
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26/01/2021 16:27:45 3 1
bbc
Only when you decide to work 12 hours a day on a Covid ward, idiotic comment
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26/01/2021 16:34:36 1 4
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Understanding? Lol! I empathise with those who are having their futures thrown away. That's where my sympathies lie. Not with the army of tory brexiteers who ruined this country long before covid. Snowflakes who demand the country sacrifices itself to save them. Nope I'll take my chances against covid for the future of my children and this nation. As should you when you locate your spine.
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26/01/2021 17:18:58 1 0
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Because that is all the NHS is at the moment, Covid Wards .
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26/01/2021 16:28:08 6 1
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Education departments opened and the numbers went up they closed and the numbers went down full lockdown keeps the numbers down open it up again and the numbers go back up. It does not take a genius to work it out !!! Roll out the vaccine to all and then open it up otherwise we will be back in full lockdown again and again and again. we spread the virus and we die from the virus
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26/01/2021 17:11:26 1 3
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Not true, numbers went down into the summer after the schools went back.
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26/01/2021 17:15:35 0 0
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You might die from the rona virus but 99.9% of the population wont
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26/01/2021 16:17:58 8 5
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My partner works in early years, over 60% of early years staff, since End of the first lock down have contracted the virus. Children may not suffer but are spreaders. Schooling is important, so shut them and add on a year. School used to finish at 16, now its 18.
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26/01/2021 16:30:39 1 0
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School still finishes at 16 for most

They have a choice to stay on fur A levels, go to college, some other form of training or start work if they can find it

https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
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26/01/2021 16:08:34 8 1
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9 out of 10 don’t be so stupid, I reckon you should go back to school.
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26/01/2021 16:28:36 1 0
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Funny how upset people get at truths they don't like.
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26/01/2021 16:25:16 5 0
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Tell that to the relatives of the 100000 who have died
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Boohoo. Sometimes people die. Get over it. Removed
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26/01/2021 16:34:00 2 4
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Good luck trying to motivate the kids to learn in a classroom environment after nearly a year of disruption. Home study and easy access to the fridge, means more needless obesity and parents who buy in to the whole package.
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26/01/2021 16:53:54 1 1
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A lot of children are really excited for when they go back to school. Remember that kids want to see their friends at school and be able to talk to them. A lot of children don't have the facilities to talk to their friends on a phone either.
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26/01/2021 16:27:45 3 1
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Only when you decide to work 12 hours a day on a Covid ward, idiotic comment
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26/01/2021 16:34:36 1 4
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Understanding? Lol! I empathise with those who are having their futures thrown away. That's where my sympathies lie. Not with the army of tory brexiteers who ruined this country long before covid. Snowflakes who demand the country sacrifices itself to save them. Nope I'll take my chances against covid for the future of my children and this nation. As should you when you locate your spine.
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26/01/2021 16:38:21 2 0
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You are nothing for this so called nation and I see your level of mentality as low as any brexiter or little englander
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26/01/2021 16:59:45 1 0
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New definition of "off on one!"
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26/01/2021 16:35:30 6 6
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Reading some of the comments on here, you would think that young people are like demons who as you walk past them twist their heads 180° and spit covid infested bile at you.

If you are that frightened then stay at home, which will give you plenty of time to reflect on the fact that you were once young, and what a carefree time you had at that age.
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26/01/2021 16:39:34 3 3
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Oh dear

Why should people be afraid then again there are covidiits like you around who can only look backwards
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26/01/2021 16:38:15 13 1
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How has the Open University coped with distance learning over the past 40 years or so?
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26/01/2021 16:43:27 4 2
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Why are traditional university campus' still open?
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26/01/2021 16:44:21 0 1
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It's a fair point, but children need integration to learn valuable social skills and the discipline of order and time-keeping, something most OU graduates had already established.
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26/01/2021 17:00:52 2 2
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Because they offer degrees that people do at a leisurely pace as a hobby.
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26/01/2021 17:06:19 2 3
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With very low numbers of students
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26/01/2021 21:45:48 2 0
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As a rule, they don't teach 5 year olds...
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26/01/2021 16:34:36 1 4
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Understanding? Lol! I empathise with those who are having their futures thrown away. That's where my sympathies lie. Not with the army of tory brexiteers who ruined this country long before covid. Snowflakes who demand the country sacrifices itself to save them. Nope I'll take my chances against covid for the future of my children and this nation. As should you when you locate your spine.
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26/01/2021 16:38:21 2 0
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You are nothing for this so called nation and I see your level of mentality as low as any brexiter or little englander
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26/01/2021 16:40:32 0 2
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Sheep.
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26/01/2021 17:19:44 1 0
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Still blaming Brexit for everything ? How sad
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26/01/2021 16:35:30 6 6
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Reading some of the comments on here, you would think that young people are like demons who as you walk past them twist their heads 180° and spit covid infested bile at you.

If you are that frightened then stay at home, which will give you plenty of time to reflect on the fact that you were once young, and what a carefree time you had at that age.
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26/01/2021 16:39:34 3 3
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Oh dear

Why should people be afraid then again there are covidiits like you around who can only look backwards
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26/01/2021 16:38:21 2 0
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You are nothing for this so called nation and I see your level of mentality as low as any brexiter or little englander
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26/01/2021 16:40:32 0 2
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Sheep.
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26/01/2021 16:42:19 4 1
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More proof of your low mentality
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26/01/2021 16:41:35 13 5
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Total idiot, how can any educational establishment be safe until every student from nursery to university and their teachers and tutors are vaccinated, until they are these establishments will be packed with superspreaders.
There is no plan, other than get them open, and get them back, hang the consequences.
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OwO
26/01/2021 16:44:12 3 5
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If any of that was true, why are the schools still closed?

Try engaging your brain before typing.
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26/01/2021 18:46:57 0 1
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And yet the supermarkets have never shut. How can anyone demand their workplace stays shut (whilst they remain on 100% of salary, not 80% or less) whilst taking for granted the plebs in the supermarkets and vans will carry on serving them?
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26/01/2021 16:40:32 0 2
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Sheep.
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26/01/2021 16:42:19 4 1
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More proof of your low mentality
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26/01/2021 16:38:15 13 1
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How has the Open University coped with distance learning over the past 40 years or so?
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26/01/2021 16:43:27 4 2
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Why are traditional university campus' still open?
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26/01/2021 17:52:15 2 0
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Most universities are operating remotely. Cambridge set up to do it way back at the beginning, Edinburgh recent in bbc article going that way. Relative is at home as all content is remote in his uni too. Greed had them try on opening to grasp accommodation fees. Precious few ever need to be attended ever again, bar the few courses needing practical facilities.
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27/01/2021 09:34:24 0 0
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They are still open I suppose because the students are still paying top whack for tuition and accomodation...no refunds.
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26/01/2021 16:41:35 13 5
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Total idiot, how can any educational establishment be safe until every student from nursery to university and their teachers and tutors are vaccinated, until they are these establishments will be packed with superspreaders.
There is no plan, other than get them open, and get them back, hang the consequences.
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OwO
26/01/2021 16:44:12 3 5
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If any of that was true, why are the schools still closed?

Try engaging your brain before typing.
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26/01/2021 16:17:29 2 7
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oh just let's get on with it, there's so much talk day after day this and that schools need to open there friends and wellbeing, and lockdowns can't go on. let's get them back in and just live with this so called virus, just like any other. parents out there are on wits end. we need normality back not living like this.nobody what they say are super spreaders, it's goverment scientist scaremongers
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26/01/2021 16:44:51 2 1
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Do you know why people like you are known as covidiots

If not look in the mirror
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26/01/2021 16:17:58 8 5
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My partner works in early years, over 60% of early years staff, since End of the first lock down have contracted the virus. Children may not suffer but are spreaders. Schooling is important, so shut them and add on a year. School used to finish at 16, now its 18.
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26/01/2021 16:45:04 0 0
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Exactly Peter. There is already an extra two years schooling for children nowadays. (2014 leaving age raised to 17, 2015 it was raised to 18) They need another year off before they are missing out as much as anyone who left in 2013.
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26/01/2021 16:22:17 1 1
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Other way round, I think. Government leaks to selected media to test the response when published, then decides
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OwO
26/01/2021 16:45:13 0 0
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And we've known they've been doing that.... basically since media was invented. You won't find any of them questioning in it though, hate to lose the scoop on headlines!
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26/01/2021 16:38:15 13 1
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How has the Open University coped with distance learning over the past 40 years or so?
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26/01/2021 16:44:21 0 1
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It's a fair point, but children need integration to learn valuable social skills and the discipline of order and time-keeping, something most OU graduates had already established.
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26/01/2021 17:56:40 2 0
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No child has ever needed any nasty school environment to get social 'skills'. Schooling has only existed a century or so, humans managed much better before they existed by living and playing locally with each other, and not is very nasty age segregated silos, gulags. Obedience and time keeping is taught in by parental discipline, not schooling dropped off and picked up on time by others!
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26/01/2021 18:23:24 2 1
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Sorry, but discipline, timekeeping, basic social skills, use of a toilet, use of a knife and fork etc can and should be taught by parents well before a child goes to school. Why do many see that as the responsibility of schools? If teachers didn’t have to spend time and money toilet training little Johnnie then they might have time to actually educate and inspire the next generation.
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26/01/2021 16:48:14 1 5
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Covidiots, brexiters, little englanders

Just like many with aka's on hys

Same bile and blinkered ignorance
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26/01/2021 16:58:56 0 5
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I'm willing to bet you are not one of the people who has paid the price of this governments botched strategy or who has ever contemplated the future implications of our failure to control the virus. That you're someone who honestly believes BJ is just following the science. Swallow it whole little sheep. I'd like to talk to you a little about the Darwin effect.
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26/01/2021 17:04:48 1 1
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Remoners , lock down xenophobes , British haters etc
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26/01/2021 16:17:12 3 7
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Opening schools a national priority, says government

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Closing schools a national priority, says teacher unions
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26/01/2021 16:48:47 0 2
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It is the government that decided to "close" schools not the unions. Surely the Government are not scared of a few leftie teachers? I know the prime minister is scared of one union: The 1922 Committee.
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26/01/2021 16:17:12 3 7
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Opening schools a national priority, says government

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Closing schools a national priority, says teacher unions
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26/01/2021 16:50:50 0 1
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So are schools going to be open instead of having the long summer break? If all these open schools advocates who also go on about childrens' education is so vital, one would hope so. Watch all the teachers start to moan if that happens!!
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26/01/2021 16:27:43 0 3
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Why? They'll die soon anyway. Focus on getting the country open not preserving the lives of the unproductive. Oh yeah that's right they're tory voters aren't they.
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26/01/2021 16:53:12 0 0
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You sound like a Josef Mengele, look him up as you obviously are not the brightest coming up with rubbish like that, oh wait you sound like a facist so you may in fact know who he was. "They will die soon anyway" what a ridiculous callous statement. Somebody could be in their 20's, are vulnerable to covid and it could kill them but if they dont catch covid could live another 50 years.
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26/01/2021 16:54:27 7 2
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The safety of the children, their families and everyone else should be priority.
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26/01/2021 18:44:44 1 5
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Over what? We should have furloughed teachers on a maximum of £2,500 a month with pension reduced to 3% and paid them £19 a day to isolate and THEN see how important it was to close the schools.
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26/01/2021 16:55:33 16 3
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History suggests that this pandemic will last at least until spring 2022, the death toll is over 100k now, let's keep everyone safe and think about opening schools when it's safe to do so
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26/01/2021 17:00:19 7 12
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Safe for who? Schools are closed and the problem hasnt gone away so why is closing them desireable? The teachers should be prioritised for vaccinations instead of people in their 80's who can easily stay home and safe, and then the schools should open.
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26/01/2021 17:19:43 1 2
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How about just staying in that will keep you safe and the rest of us who haven't bought into project hysteria can get on with our lives
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26/01/2021 16:56:32 4 2
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Its not that long ago that 45,000 deaths were considered an bad figure, today 100,000 people have lost their lives, we should do everything to stop this pandemic. Solve the problems of childrens education, parents wages and lost jobs in order to save the NHS and Save Lives. Opening up society is not the only answer.The lockdown is the vehicle to carry us to safety the Vaccine will keep us there
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26/01/2021 16:59:16 5 2
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Well said

Sadly it won't be long before we get the covidiots justifying these deaths because the uk count the deaths differently to others
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26/01/2021 16:34:00 2 4
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Good luck trying to motivate the kids to learn in a classroom environment after nearly a year of disruption. Home study and easy access to the fridge, means more needless obesity and parents who buy in to the whole package.
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26/01/2021 16:53:54 1 1
bbc
A lot of children are really excited for when they go back to school. Remember that kids want to see their friends at school and be able to talk to them. A lot of children don't have the facilities to talk to their friends on a phone either.
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26/01/2021 16:57:33 1 1
bbc
Why is this subject worthy of HYS but not others?
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26/01/2021 17:00:40 1 0
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Why not

Your opinion is irrelevant
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26/01/2021 16:17:29 2 7
bbc
oh just let's get on with it, there's so much talk day after day this and that schools need to open there friends and wellbeing, and lockdowns can't go on. let's get them back in and just live with this so called virus, just like any other. parents out there are on wits end. we need normality back not living like this.nobody what they say are super spreaders, it's goverment scientist scaremongers
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26/01/2021 16:58:17 0 0
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I am teaching remotely and in the last two days have spent hours speaking to parents and putting in plans to support pupils who are just not coping with lockdown learning. The open university is not a fair comparison, they are adults who choose to study for a degree at home. Teenagers need social contact. This doesn’t make me a Covidiot. It is just explaining a consequences of this route.
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26/01/2021 16:48:14 1 5
bbc
Covidiots, brexiters, little englanders

Just like many with aka's on hys

Same bile and blinkered ignorance
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26/01/2021 16:58:56 0 5
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I'm willing to bet you are not one of the people who has paid the price of this governments botched strategy or who has ever contemplated the future implications of our failure to control the virus. That you're someone who honestly believes BJ is just following the science. Swallow it whole little sheep. I'd like to talk to you a little about the Darwin effect.
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26/01/2021 17:04:23 2 0
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You would lose any bet

Uk govt has botched many things over the last few years

Govts across the world are struggling but none as bad as bojo

You are known as a covidiot for a reason
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26/01/2021 16:56:32 4 2
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Its not that long ago that 45,000 deaths were considered an bad figure, today 100,000 people have lost their lives, we should do everything to stop this pandemic. Solve the problems of childrens education, parents wages and lost jobs in order to save the NHS and Save Lives. Opening up society is not the only answer.The lockdown is the vehicle to carry us to safety the Vaccine will keep us there
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26/01/2021 16:59:16 5 2
bbc
Well said

Sadly it won't be long before we get the covidiots justifying these deaths because the uk count the deaths differently to others
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26/01/2021 17:17:41 0 3
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We do
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26/01/2021 16:34:36 1 4
bbc
Understanding? Lol! I empathise with those who are having their futures thrown away. That's where my sympathies lie. Not with the army of tory brexiteers who ruined this country long before covid. Snowflakes who demand the country sacrifices itself to save them. Nope I'll take my chances against covid for the future of my children and this nation. As should you when you locate your spine.
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26/01/2021 16:59:45 1 0
bbc
New definition of "off on one!"
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26/01/2021 16:55:33 16 3
bbc
History suggests that this pandemic will last at least until spring 2022, the death toll is over 100k now, let's keep everyone safe and think about opening schools when it's safe to do so
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26/01/2021 17:00:19 7 12
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Safe for who? Schools are closed and the problem hasnt gone away so why is closing them desireable? The teachers should be prioritised for vaccinations instead of people in their 80's who can easily stay home and safe, and then the schools should open.
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26/01/2021 17:03:39 7 3
bbc
Look at the case rates. They are rapidly dropping down because the schools are closed. November lockdown when schools were open, cases only dropped slightly.
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26/01/2021 17:27:12 5 1
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The schools are NOT closed!! They are just not open for ALL pupils. Key workers' children and vulnerable children have been in school since the very beginning in March. Those pupils not in school have (or should have) been receiving online education.
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26/01/2021 17:43:37 3 4
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Sadly schools are not close to closed. Some as much as half full with child dumping parent's offspring. Let's actually close them and do some real good.
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26/01/2021 18:13:49 0 1
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You need to think your first line through. Closing schools hasn’t solved the whole problem but that doesn’t mean it isn’t keeping infection rates and deaths well below where they would otherwise be. It is one of a package of measures aimed at preventing far worse than the already tragic 100k deaths. If you want to eradicate Covid then you best ask for a much harsher and longer lockdown.
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26/01/2021 16:57:33 1 1
bbc
Why is this subject worthy of HYS but not others?
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26/01/2021 17:00:40 1 0
bbc
Why not

Your opinion is irrelevant
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26/01/2021 16:38:15 13 1
bbc
How has the Open University coped with distance learning over the past 40 years or so?
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26/01/2021 17:00:52 2 2
bbc
Because they offer degrees that people do at a leisurely pace as a hobby.
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26/01/2021 17:02:45 1 5
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The physical and metal safety of kids and schools should be a priority . Open the schools now .
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26/01/2021 17:05:39 4 1
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A parents job not schools to look after their kids physical and mental health
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26/01/2021 18:15:35 3 0
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Garbage. Schools are your 'nanny'? There are no real mental issues at all. It is a new made up fad for not having every second of every day exactly as you fancy, or ordinary life as it was called before the invention of pretend mental issues. Needy of people? Then you need practice in being alone until you grow out of it.
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26/01/2021 17:00:19 7 12
bbc
Safe for who? Schools are closed and the problem hasnt gone away so why is closing them desireable? The teachers should be prioritised for vaccinations instead of people in their 80's who can easily stay home and safe, and then the schools should open.
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26/01/2021 17:03:39 7 3
bbc
Look at the case rates. They are rapidly dropping down because the schools are closed. November lockdown when schools were open, cases only dropped slightly.
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26/01/2021 17:08:00 2 4
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How can you say its because schools are closed, there may be any number of reasons why cases are falling? Correlation not causation.
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26/01/2021 17:18:25 2 2
bbc
spot on!
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26/01/2021 16:58:56 0 5
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I'm willing to bet you are not one of the people who has paid the price of this governments botched strategy or who has ever contemplated the future implications of our failure to control the virus. That you're someone who honestly believes BJ is just following the science. Swallow it whole little sheep. I'd like to talk to you a little about the Darwin effect.
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26/01/2021 17:04:23 2 0
bbc
You would lose any bet

Uk govt has botched many things over the last few years

Govts across the world are struggling but none as bad as bojo

You are known as a covidiot for a reason
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26/01/2021 17:20:13 0 1
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Well contemplating and understanding are two different things I guess. Sheep.