Coronavirus: Vaccine supply fears grow amid EU export threat
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The EU calls for "fair" distribution after vaccine companies cut back on pledged supplies.
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So all the Tit for Tat coming out now
AKA Spite
Not really since it isn't the UK government that is threatening to stop exports to the EU countries, it is simply a company not able to produce enough.
The EU diplomats are ultimately trying to just save face over the face they were incredibly slow to order, immunise, etc.
The EU diplomats are ultimately trying to just save face over the face they were incredibly slow to order, immunise, etc.
Well, there you go, the EU once again showing its true colours.
Lashing out like a vindictive school child at their own failings.
Lashing out like a vindictive school child at their own failings.
See what I mean?
This incredibly strange situation of the EU potentially suing a company for the delivery of a vaccine that they have not even approved themselves.
I would like to know what would have happened if we had remained in the EU.
Would the AZ vaccine have to be pooled amongst the 28 states?
Would UK have to wait to be allocated its quota?
Would the AZ vaccine have to be pooled amongst the 28 states?
Would UK have to wait to be allocated its quota?
Every business will have been here. Your supplier fails to meet contractual obligations due to "production problems". So you go to an alternative supplier, even if that means you are taking supplies that would have gone to a 3rd party. That is how it is in the dog eat dog business world.
The fact that the buyers and sellers are in UK and EU will no doubt turn this into a Brexit debate. It is not.
The fact that the buyers and sellers are in UK and EU will no doubt turn this into a Brexit debate. It is not.
I imagine the uk wouldn’t be sending vaccines made here if they weren’t being used here and the company producing the vaccines here wouldn’t be allowed to export
Quite right, it is manufactured in the EU, they should keep their foreign doses to themselves. That what the Brexiteers have been sasying for years.
it's almost like they have formed some kind of union to represent the interests of their members isn't it?
Perhaps we should prioritise the Commonwealth ahead of the EU. I always thought it was a shame that joining the EU forced us to cut or downgrade so many Commonwealth ties.
"It's not FAIR!"
It's not their failings though, is it? It's a private company's failings with one of their suppliers. If I pay for something to be developed and then pay for a large pre-order and I am given a timescale, I would not accept that it be delayed because of a problem with a supplier. I would expect the company that I ordered it from to find some way to fulfil the order they've committed to.
Well if they do cause us trouble Boris can invoke the penalty clauses within the EU trade agreement with just cause.
Zahawi warns against vaccine nationalism, when it's a UK-based company welching on its contract to supply EU. They are talking about finding a way to protect their citizens now the UK supplier has let them down.
The vaccine supply issue is with the makers of the vaccine, not the EU. Don't see how the EU is at fault if the producers can't make enough or renege on their promises.
"Lashing out like a vindictive school child at their own failings."
Brexiters - Pot. Kettle. Black.
Brexiters - Pot. Kettle. Black.
100,000 UK deaths true colours of the UK goverment
The EU have handled the vaccine supply dreadfully compared to the UK, well done all involved in the distribution and giving us hope
Thanks Boris
It's typical of the EU, a bureaucratic monster that moves at the pace of a snail. It probably took 15 committee meetings just to decide on what colour paper to print this report.
This is what you call famous last words...
our own vaccination program increased the gap between vaccines that the vaccine producers and MHRA recommended because they wanted to vaccinate as many as they can with the supplies we have.
our own vaccination program increased the gap between vaccines that the vaccine producers and MHRA recommended because they wanted to vaccinate as many as they can with the supplies we have.
Agreed.
Like ALL large organisations
When they get an itch
It takes them months to notice
And an age to decide whether or not to give it scratch.
Like ALL large organisations
When they get an itch
It takes them months to notice
And an age to decide whether or not to give it scratch.
Yes, a Belgian factory has screwed up and now the EU are threatening to stop exports of a British/Swedish vaccine???
Wow, why would anyone want to leave the EU is beyond me, why would we give up joining in their bully boy tactics???
Wow, why would anyone want to leave the EU is beyond me, why would we give up joining in their bully boy tactics???
UK only handled 1 dose. 2nd dose programe is a disaster.
The EU was the first entity to support vaccine makers.
The EU paid AstraZenica €200.000.0000 (Two-hundred-million-euros) up front , just so they could invest inincreased production. They fail in delivery.
AZ probably recieves more € per dose from other entities.
Anyway. They will see the power of a serious tradeblock (UK take notice....)
The EU paid AstraZenica €200.000.0000 (Two-hundred-million-euros) up front , just so they could invest inincreased production. They fail in delivery.
AZ probably recieves more € per dose from other entities.
Anyway. They will see the power of a serious tradeblock (UK take notice....)
The UK chose to quickly give the first dose to as many people as possible - probably meaning that there will not be a dependable supply for the second doses. Countries within the EU are watching to see if this was a good route to take. If yes, we will certainly admit that the UK was right and we were wrong.
I have just read through this stream of comments. There is a lot of ill informed nonsense posted and a lack of comment based on fact!
The UK has a bigger virus problem than EU countries, we hear about lockdowns in EU but that is on just a few hundred daily deaths. We have typically 3-4 times the deaths to other European countries. So we have to be first and fast or granny meets her maker!
Read my post.....that is exactly right what you say....we handled the supply brilliant....but they manufacture it......what would you do in their shoes?
Yeah well done everyone. Clap clap. Didnt close Nissan either fücking great this Brexit eh
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They seem like a wonderful institution to work with
They seem like a wonderful institution to work with
Better than the UK ever was, sadly. As much as the EU messed up, the UK and US have been infinitely worse.
Get the vaccine as soon as it is offered, don't hesitate , the virus is not a hoax !
I got mine yesterday !
Refuse the vaccine until everybody who's been waiting more than 3 weeks for their second has received it.
Especially as stocks for the second vaccine might run out soon and people might not receive it.
Especially as stocks for the second vaccine might run out soon and people might not receive it.
Never said it was. I said, and continue to do so based on the evidence, the lock-down cure is worse than the disease and Governments are creating fear & hysteria over how deadly it is because they screwed up,sacrificed hundreds of thousands of elderly & ill across Europe by emptying hospitals into care homes & now dare not admit the truth. Why the PCR test is so useful it can be fiddled at will.
The EU vaccine programme has been a complete and utter shambles.
UK is the vaccination nation
Thank goodness we were never a part of it, and those 'pro-EU despite everything' people who claimed the UK not being part of this scheme and the ventilator scheme early last year would be to our detriment are all rather quiet now.
This was to be expected
Only 1st dose. Which requires 2nd dose and here British programe is a disaster. ??
That may be but our entire COVID response excluding the vaccine has been an utter shambles. 100,000 dead is not something to be proud about
Yes it has - imagine the headlines if this was the other way round
You mean compared to the glorious success of our third highest per capita death rate in the world? Or that the Govt mid-Feb target will now almost certainly be missed?
If you are in the EU, how do you hold the vaccine program to account ?
There is no democratic mechanism, unlike that you would have if a national government had made such a cock up.
Therein lies the problem with the EU.
Unaccountable to the people.
There is no democratic mechanism, unlike that you would have if a national government had made such a cock up.
Therein lies the problem with the EU.
Unaccountable to the people.
Not really, they decided to wait on more test results. If you align the data, they are pretty much on the same track as we were 3 weeks ago. They just wanted more evidence the vaccine was safe.
With Brexit looming, the UK didn't really have a choice, and much like Brexit, took a huge gamble that it would work out OK. In the case of the vaccine, the gamble paid off, brexit that failed.
With Brexit looming, the UK didn't really have a choice, and much like Brexit, took a huge gamble that it would work out OK. In the case of the vaccine, the gamble paid off, brexit that failed.
Cue the red faced enraged leavers.....
It's the anti Brexits that are most miffed by UK vacination success
It is like the Playground. The big kids take the lunch from the little kids. We left the EU now we are the little kids. That is why the other 27 Countries stuck together to Flex their collective muscle - Here is the post Brexit world
and that's why the whole of the EU has vaccinated less than half what the UK has vaccinated. Yeah great idea to have stuck with them. LOL
What a surprise, another HYS designed to stir up discord between the pro/anti EU lobby.
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I agree, time the BBC grew up and stopped EU HYSs!
They just stir up hatred!
They just stir up hatred!
I know, it’s really depressing. Whoever approves the HYS topics should be ashamed of themselves. Always stirring up the same antagonism and never on a topic which unifies.
Actually, when it's an HYS in the pro eu lobby, it's usually FAR worse.
This is about COVID not Brexit
Presumably the UK will ensure that we are not exporting vaccines if our own supply is compromised in the same way as the EU, but I do get the feeling this HYS is here to stoke up once more the Brexit vitriol.
Well then that would instantly eradicate most of the arguments on here that the EU is acting inappropriately. We would be just as bad.
The EU have taken this disgraceful action, not the BBC. I don’t support Brexit but I can’t defend this petty action by the EU.
We are exporting vaccines by the aircraft load to those countries where we have a responsibility; e.g. Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Falklands, Overseas Territories etc, etc. More to follow.
You can't export what you do not make. he UK has no capacity to manufacture a Covid vaccine. We are dependent on the EU's goodwill, who, after all, funded a big chunk of the factory in question.
Agreed. Note no-one talking about brexit chaos and Moody's report on U K economy after brexit. Now who is that.
The AZ vaccine is being made locally all over the world to make it easy for everyone, everywhere to get it, regardless of creed, colour, politics & corporate objectives.. It's cheap to make & easy to store. From its inception, Oxford AZ have tried to design out the very thing the EU is trying to build back in. It may be tempting, but hopefully we won't behave appallingly just because they are.
Looks like the Big Boys are using their muscles. Maybe we should have stayed in a strong, working relationship with the Big Boys.......
This is petty and sour. Hard to defend this, and as you lot know, I’m firmly a brejoiner.
Get your house in order and own your balls up. We’ve got enough wrong on our own, without the supply being cut off from under us out of spite
Get your house in order and own your balls up. We’ve got enough wrong on our own, without the supply being cut off from under us out of spite
Respect.
Brexiteers were always moaning that the EU was protectionist.
They don't like it up 'em.
They don't like it up 'em.
EU apologist
So the Eu showing it’s spots no legal action against Pfizer who are also not supplying what they agreed. They are not the only country not getting their full allocation including the uk. What would they say if we did the same thing. Hope the delivery drivers taking the vaccine to Eu have filled in the right paperwork and have left their ham Sandwiches at home
They're huge hypocrites... such as when they put sanctions on America over government subsidy to Boeing supposedly giving them an unfair advantage... while Airbus is quite literally an EU political project.
You couldn't make it up.
You couldn't make it up.
The ham probably came from the Netherlans or Denmark anyway: you'd wonder why they'd ban it.
EU is not a country!
Giver them all Ham sandwiches and get them sent back - then we can have the vaccine.
We used to have freedom of ham sandwich movement but you people said you didn't want it any more.
Personally i think AZ, (especially now the EU have explicitly asked AZ if they could possibly divert supplies due for the UK!) Should tell the EU sorry, we'd like to but with the current customs holdups in France we can't take the risk so you'll have to wait for our partners Belgium plant to sort themselves out and deliver what they claimed they could
If the EU look after themselves first they are demonised.
If boris does it he is a hero .
Welcome to cognitive dissonance....
If boris does it he is a hero .
Welcome to cognitive dissonance....
EU is just proving to be spiteful for the sake of it
Insidious organization
"EU is just proving to be spiteful for the sake of it"
Been doing that for the last few years, so it comes as no surprise - well, certainly not to me.
Been doing that for the last few years, so it comes as no surprise - well, certainly not to me.
Showing their protectionist credentials again.
Ultimately this will backfire on them, and to the UK's advantage. The EU's behaviour is a disincentive for multinational biotech or pharmaceutical companies to invest in Europe if there are doubts over whether they will be allowed export their product to customers worldwide. Our Board of Trade should be encouraging them to set up their global factories in the UK.
For all the calling others in public greedy or selfish, looking at the behaviour high up among companies and Governments its easy to see why.
Because humans are perfect.
Well now I'm wondering if I got theirs.....
and me and wife
Got mine today!
Way to go EU. The Europeans are mosy important and shall be vaccinated first. The rest of the world can wait. Including some 3rd former empires in a state of dismantling.
EU do have a way to go to catch up with UK
Looks like a good thing Brexit was done, missed out on this bureaucracy
EU took to long over regulations as per usual
I'm presuming you're just ignoring the endless red tape at borders then?
The tug of war over vaccines has started. Let's hope everyone in authority and responsible for decision making can keep their heads.
You aint seen nothing yet.....
The problem is that no one in the EU bureaucracy is accountable to the electorate of the member states. They are all effectively political appointees by member states who seek to maximise their influence over the distribution of the budget that has never been balanced. Did the electorate vote for the president of the EU or any of its commissioners? No. So they will keep their heads.
Cue the red faced enraged leavers.....
The amount of paid Tory drones on here is making it just useless as a forum.
Sinister ain't they
No real surprises.
Anyone else remember the 'uproar' from certain politicians and many pro-EU commenters on here when the UK didn't sign up to the EU vaccine program and our govt decided to go it alone?
Any of those who condemned our govt for not signing onto the EU program want to take back their remarks and maybe admit that our govt actually made the right decision?
Anyone else remember the 'uproar' from certain politicians and many pro-EU commenters on here when the UK didn't sign up to the EU vaccine program and our govt decided to go it alone?
Any of those who condemned our govt for not signing onto the EU program want to take back their remarks and maybe admit that our govt actually made the right decision?
Good thing we are not their enemies if this is how they treat their friends.
You wanted to be outside, looking after your own cuts both ways.
What "tricks"? Complaining that private companies don't keep their promises?
Bully boy tactics, who’d have thought it. Greece, Ireland and a few more
Brexit idiots are out in force today on HYS. Anything to take the focus away from this useless ToryBrexit Government causing 100,000 covid deaths - the worst in Europe and top 5 in the world and the total failure of Brexit.
Probably thier revenge for us not giving thier "ambassador" diplomatic status. Only applies to states so if we give them diplomatic status the ambassadors of the other EU countries should go home.
So the EU will be stopping exports to the UK of their Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (the one which takes longer to manufacture, has smaller production volumes and requires careful handling and has a limited shelf life) and will also be stopping imports of the easier to produce and larger production volume UK AstraZeneca vaccine
I think they are doing us a favour, quite frankly!
I think they are doing us a favour, quite frankly!
And costs a lot more don't forget
Apart from the fact we may end up being short of the Pfizer vaccine for people’s second doses!
As the Oxford vaccine is the easiest to handle as it can be stored in an ordinary fridge, I would have thought that humanitarian considerations would have meant the EU would bee keen to make sure 3rd world countries had priority if supplies were short. However, it was the EU who bribed the Turks to keep out Syrian refugees out of EU countries. The EU is like all governments, not perfect.
Plenty of non-Eu countries need vaccines
Only you forget that he AZ vaccine is produced in belgium in the AZ volume manufacturing plant.
Wonder how long it will be for AZ to move it to the UK production facility so t can export to its customer FREELY
Wonder how long it will be for AZ to move it to the UK production facility so t can export to its customer FREELY
Twaddle. Even if we use all the UK production of AZ (which is anyway the plan) but nothing else 75% of us will never be vaccinated.
One has been shown to work.
The other one still has no reliable efficacy trial data.
I'd take that bet if I was the EU.
I strongly doubt they'll do it though. The main reason for the soundbites is not AZ, it is Pfizer. Pfizer has threatened to keep US production in the USA, and supply the rest of the world completely from the EU, severely cutting EU supply. It's a warning shot to that idea ... Removed
The other one still has no reliable efficacy trial data.
I'd take that bet if I was the EU.
I strongly doubt they'll do it though. The main reason for the soundbites is not AZ, it is Pfizer. Pfizer has threatened to keep US production in the USA, and supply the rest of the world completely from the EU, severely cutting EU supply. It's a warning shot to that idea ... Removed
How about everyone boycott all EU products? Bet that will shake them up!
Astra Zeneca is also made in Europe so they will also stop this export. So less than a month of leaving there is an imminent FIGHT. C'mon EU put up your dukes I'm ready. FYI BBC I am not serious.
It's a bit too late mate,its too f late. You can't vaccinate 100 k who were killed from covid and the number is rising
Shame you don't realise the UK AstraZeneca vaccine is being made in Belgium. Typical low iq brexiteer..lol.
Product for the EU was to be made in factories in Belgium and the Netherlands, because they placed their order late while holding out for the banoffee vaccine, these factories are not yet ready to deliver.
Companies would basically have to ask the EU permission before they export the a vaccine to other parts of the world to save people life's.
Well there is a positive advertising slogan for the EU right there.
Well there is a positive advertising slogan for the EU right there.
Perhaps that is the EU plus that Sturgeon is after. Has Scotland produced any vaccine yet ?
Don't be so sanctimonious. We would do the same if the boot was on the other foot.
The new EU slogan - "Only EU Lives Matter".
If the EU aren't careful a lot of the companies producing the vaccines (and much more) will start to look to the UK as an alternative. I know that Pfizer are already in discussions with UK vaccine manufacturers, so it is only a matter of time
If you go to a restaurant and ordered a table, would you accept that somebody who ordered after you, gets a table first? No you wouldn't. The EU has put orders in for those vaccines ages ago, understandable that they want them delivered before those companies deliver them to somebody else. The UK would do exactly the same if tables were turned.
Even more astounding is that the EU issue is due to the Belgian plant that is supposed to supply them having problems. So AZ is considering importing their vaccine from plants outside the EU to address the issue. Better make sure any UK drivers have the right paperwork and no Ham sandwiches then - or will the EU borders become oddly porous when they are in desperate straights?
Vaccination
for da UK nation !
for da UK nation !
Come on remainers, come up with an excuse for this spiteful behaviour from your beloved EU
It's tough to, though understanding more about Astrazenica's shortfall to the EU would be nice - considering UK's AZ supply apparently isn't being impacted there was clearly some political motivation behind the decision of who gets what, and a retaliatory move from the EU was inevitable. No one is coming out smelling of roses here.
If you were expecting a delivery of 80m doses & were then told it had been reduced to around 31m you would be upset & would want to protect your supply! So they are only doing what we would hope our gov would do! Bet you would aplaud our gov if boot were on the other foot!?
I'm a remainer, I have moved on, can't you? - grow a pair and grow up. It has nothing to do with Brexit and everything to do with how the EU AND other countries have messed up. We got our act together others havent. Im pretty certain the UK will be as petty over other issues in the years to come
People like you i dislike where ever i live or however i vote. I voted to stay but now we have left we (including you) have to get on with it. The EU didn't approve the astrazenaca vaccine and roll out quickly - mauritius will be quicker with the same product made in india. In this i agree the EU are stupid but i still don't like you.
You lot are hypocrites, if this was Boris and the UK behaving this way you would approve saying it was "taking care of our own"
Of course they're not going to put our needs above those in their member states. It's common sense, we left the club.
Of course they're not going to put our needs above those in their member states. It's common sense, we left the club.
I can't and don't need to. No government is perfect. The EU has several flaws, but that doesn't change that being a part of it was better for us than being out of it. It's attempting to act in the best interests of it's people, much like everyone else does.
Would you want Boris to send vaccines abroad if they were made here and the company making them here cut our supply by 60%? Think about it.
The EU is threatening legal action against a company that is talking about breaking it's contractual obligations. What's your problem?
You have us wrong, nobody said EU was perfect. We think that being in the EU is beneficial to the UK in general (as, believe it or not, we love Britain too).
the EU has many other benefits, like trade, less red tape, free movement of musicians etc.
Having said that, in this instance, this is indeed a dick move.
the EU has many other benefits, like trade, less red tape, free movement of musicians etc.
Having said that, in this instance, this is indeed a dick move.
You sir are quite boring, move on with your life and stop trying to stir up old stuff, child.
Easy. I’d bet my house that it’s Remainers who developed the vaccine, and Leavers that are busy spreading the disease and guff on FB as to why it shouldn’t be taken.
Remainers - playing their part and contributing.
Leavers - not so much.
Remainers - playing their part and contributing.
Leavers - not so much.
You show your ignorance. Spiteful behaviour - pah! They paid AZ to develop this vaccine, we didn't, and all they want now is what they have been promised in return.
Simple - it's the EU "taking back control". Brexiteers don't like a taste of their own medicine...!
I am a strong remainer and cannot either. It was this incompetence from the EU that gifted Brexit
"Come on remainers, come up with an excuse for this spiteful behaviour from your beloved EU"
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I see you've fallen for the whole polarised thing, and believe that anyone who voted remain therefore "loves the EU"
Fair to assume then, that you'll be doing some racist stuff this afternoon, before heading to Spoons for some Stella, struggling with year 3 maths, and sucking off Boris? Removed
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I see you've fallen for the whole polarised thing, and believe that anyone who voted remain therefore "loves the EU"
Fair to assume then, that you'll be doing some racist stuff this afternoon, before heading to Spoons for some Stella, struggling with year 3 maths, and sucking off Boris? Removed
That's the problem: it's all so B&W to some when it rarely is-though it makes bigotry easier. Face it, whether you were leave/remain, you didn't vote 'cos of a potential pandemic 4 years later
A single country will always react quicker than a group (compare French Rafale to Eurofighter Typhoon). But our damaged economy hasn't exactly been helped by us voting for WTO rules that affect trade with EU
A single country will always react quicker than a group (compare French Rafale to Eurofighter Typhoon). But our damaged economy hasn't exactly been helped by us voting for WTO rules that affect trade with EU
If we were in the club we would be ok, except were not in the club anymore so we cant play with their football.
I am very pro European, I voted to remain in Europe but if they do this to us then never again will I speak or vote in favour of them, EVER !
It doesn't need excusing. And you wouldn't complain if we did exactly the same.
It's amazing, the EU messes up on one thing and all the brexiters start crowing "see, told you so," like 8 year old kids, yet they blithely ignore the huge delays at the ports, the sudden drastic customs duties now payable, the shortages of goods in NI, not to mention visas required for all EU countries, work opportunities gone, musicians and bands cannot tour, the list is endless......
I'm a remainer and still regret leaving. But I don't do childlike responses and toys out of the pram reactions. Boris to date has got ONE only one thing right. Fish? Ham sanwiches? kids again. But you're far from out of the woods yet. Time will tell and I still have grave worries for the UK, I just hope I'm wrong
The EU has itself to blame for being so slow in placing orders for the Bloc with the vaccine.
Rubbish - they paid billions to develop this vaccine and we didn't...
Because the EU have made such a mess of their vaccination roll out
they are now trying to mess up ours.
they are now trying to mess up ours.
They were too slow to approve our vaccine
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Its the one they produced and its the best and were friendly enough to let the UK go first.Farage and the not so clever would of lit up if it had been the other way around.
Would you want the uk to send vaccines abroad if the company providing it cut your numbers drastically?
Why are Brexiteers concerned about supplies of the Pfizer vaccine? Surely, if they are true to their word, none of them would choose to take something German/Belgian in origin, when they could wait a few weeks and have the British alternative.
This mess is not of their own making. This mess is AstraZeneca's. Something has gone wrong in their supply chain. EU is quite right. Their deliveries of the vaccine were due to be down by 61%. That's massive and a massive failure on the part of AstraZeneca.
Perhaps in times gone bye to issue a declaration of war, like invade Northern France then absolutely thrash to French aristocracy at Agincourt!!
That's quite a twisted view of the EU
They just want AZ to treat their contract with the EU the same as their contract with the UK.
@Flipmode. Is that what the EU means when they say they want a level playing field?
I agree.
But, to be fair because parts of the UK have not moved as quickly as others, we are doing the same to the NE of England!!
But, to be fair because parts of the UK have not moved as quickly as others, we are doing the same to the NE of England!!
What don’t Brexiteers understand about Brexit? The EU is responsible for its citizens. We are no longer on the EU. We have ‘taken back control’. The only authority responsible for ensuring GB vaccine supplies is the UK government. It seems cakeist Brexiteers want to blame the EU when we were in, and blame the EU now we are out. Which is it?
Sounds like the EU is practicing 'health genocide' on the rest of the world. The sooner this heanas organisation is is ostracised the better.
At least we have been actively vaccinating the most vulnerable. Remind me how the EU is getting on?
'Remind me how the EU is getting on?'
OK.
The EU hasn't got the worst Covid death rate in the world.
That dubious honour belongs to the UK under the shabby Vote Leave liars you voted for.
You're welcome.
OK.
The EU hasn't got the worst Covid death rate in the world.
That dubious honour belongs to the UK under the shabby Vote Leave liars you voted for.
You're welcome.
We should not have bothered with the elderly. They've been shafting the young for decades. Time fo a change.
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This is brilliant. The EU has paid the least, paid the least in funding per capita, the EU plants cant produce as much and now they want the UK provisions. They can go to hell. IF they wont allow fresh fish across the border... why should the EU get vaccines? The French and Germans were VERY quick to stop mask supplies to the UK. The UK should stop the export of vaccines and only sell to nations.
They're made in the EU. We left. What did you think was going to happen? They're not going to prioritise foreign nationals over EU nationals. We wouldn't if it was reversed.
You tell 'em!
EU shambles ... rioting in Netherlands, vaccine production issues in Belgium, AZ vaccine not yet approved. At least they can confiscate sandwiches with the best of them!
EU are a busted flush
Not to mention massive number of anti-vaccine people in France
Illegal sandwich detection rates are a success story for the Netherlands border force
With their buying power maybe they could order up some Sputnik V?
"vaccine production issues in Belgium"
The production issues are with AstraZeneca, not Pfizer.
The production issues are with AstraZeneca, not Pfizer.
Wonder why the UK has the highest daily death toll and highest total death toll from Covid of all the European countries...
what is rioting in Netherlands to do with EU, you speak like a Russian troll
That is the whole point of the EU and its stand on the vaccine no exports, they are all scared that the rioting will spread to other countries in the EU, I am amazed that they are taking a stand like that and not even given the ok to use the vaccine, what a mess they are getting themselves in, I supported staying the EU, but the EU is going backwards and fear is causing the problem
At least the dutch have the guts to stand up to this lock down trash.
Events in the Netherlands are to do with lockdown (the regulations being directed by the Dutch government) not vaccine issues. Please do not twist the facts to support your pointless, anti-EU, flawed, finger pointing.
Does anyone else think it surprising we've heard so little about dissatisfaction with how governments of other nations have handled covid? For the Dutch to get to the stage of rioting, there must have been a build up. Could it be that media has an agenda of not sharing what their numerous overseas based reporters must know I wonder what else they decide is not newsworthy for their UK audience.
well said!
while back in blighty, the sun always shines, the birds always sing and our fish have a permanent smile.
Lucky all is perfect ion UK's sunny uplands then! Fishing industry, what's that?
Brexit Broadcasting Company.
"Cant" being the operative word ...
Thank you for your honest response. An example for us all in gracious behaviour.
What about you relative Theresa??
Way to go EU. The Europeans are mosy important and shall be vaccinated first. The rest of the world can wait. Including some 3rd former empires in a state of dismantling.
There's no UK ANYMORE. Btw you only vaccinated 1 doze. ??????
Guilty people blame others for picking on them. An alternative view is that they are not picking on anyone, but taking steps to protect their own citizens. I can imagine certain headlines if we were still in the EU and they didn't take these measures....
Get over yourselves.
You won.
Remember.
Own it.
Get over yourselves.
You won.
Remember.
Own it.
This Brexit thing isn't going very well is it? Unable to import stuff, unable to export stuff. I thought there was going to be no downside.
The EU wants AstraZeneca to meet the terms of the contract.
Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah... you can understand why the EU is miffed in that respect. But coming out now saying they are going to change the rules so it makes the things harder for the UK to get the vaccine from them is childish and just being spiteful
which it is. the terms of the contract state that AZ will supply a % of the order not neccessarily the whole order. the EU screwed up big time
The EU were too slow to approve
Their insistence on having every dose labelled in the native language of the country it's going to,instead of English,isn't slowing things down?
If there is a problem with production same as Pfizer what can you do. Wait yes we will hold back every country outside the EU vaccine delivery even though Countries outside the EU partly own the vaccine companies.
if the EU wants AstraZeneca to meet the terms of their contracts then the UK should get all their vaccines first as the UK ordered it's vaccines in May 2020 and the EU ordered it's vaccines in August 2020.
The EU vaccine programme has been a complete and utter shambles.
The UK is at least a month ahead of the EU27 in numbers of vaccination?
Of course vaccination has a purpose, to stop the virus killing people. The real measure of success will be the reduction in the death rate. Will we be a month ahead of the EU27 on this measure? Or will comparisons with other countries once again become "unreliable"?
Of course vaccination has a purpose, to stop the virus killing people. The real measure of success will be the reduction in the death rate. Will we be a month ahead of the EU27 on this measure? Or will comparisons with other countries once again become "unreliable"?
However, being ahead is OK, but it's like sticking 2 fingers up to the rest of the world. Not good.
I like it !!!
Actually, Israel and the UAE are the real 'vaccination nations', the UK is way way behind them in the 'league table'.
I think you'll find that Israel is the vaccination nation
Vaccination nation with the highest death rate in Europe ,thanks boris
You should be a comedian.
No, Israel is by a long shot!
Another BBC scare story completely over the top. How about facts not conjecture. You are affecting the mental health of millions with constant streams of negative narrative. STOP IT.
“You are affecting the mental health of millions with constant streams of negative narrative.”
Running from the truth won’t help
This country is a stupid racist filth hole
The government are criminals
They are going to kill hundreds of thousands more of us, then laugh about it Removed
Running from the truth won’t help
This country is a stupid racist filth hole
The government are criminals
They are going to kill hundreds of thousands more of us, then laugh about it Removed
You are starting to get it. What do you think the main function of the BBC is?
EU are a third rate dictatorship.
They took too long with the approvals
Be careful not to over-rate them.
UK is a fourth rate dictatorship
A pretty vacant comment.
England is a first rate dictatorship.Scotland and NI are leaving you
They are actually worse because the real decision makers are mostly unaccountable, hiding behind smooth, media-friendly spokespeople, while having no compunction whatsoever about misleading everyone in pursuit of political agendas that few people would vote for
No, far better than the defunct, incompetent UK!
It is like the Playground. The big kids take the lunch from the little kids. We left the EU now we are the little kids. That is why the other 27 Countries stuck together to Flex their collective muscle - Here is the post Brexit world
And I thought the EU were good neighbours and friends...
They keep on referring to us as friends but their spiteful behaviour proves otherwise
They never have been, it’s nearly always been their way or the highway. Just impresses how right we were to leave.
The EU has never been and never will be our friend. They only allowed us in for our net financial contribution and hated having to do so. Without the UK, the EU would not have a single market and would never have expanded eastwards. These things are so easily forgotten.
The same neighbors and friends that Mrs Murrell wants to rejoin
If you spit in the face of a powerful trading block next door for godness' sake don't whine at the results
They never have been. As soon as they don't get their own way they resort to threats and blackmail. We were never their friends, it was just convenient for them to pretend we were.
The EU vaccine programme has been a complete and utter shambles.
It was to our detriment. UK has the highest death rate in Europe and the pictures that went around the world from Italy during the first wave now come from London
This Brexit thing isn't going very well is it? Unable to import stuff, unable to export stuff. I thought there was going to be no downside.
"Thanks Boris"
On the day the ONS announces the official death toll has gone beyond the 100,000 mark, Ricky Spinach thanks the man in charge.
Love truly is blind for the besotted Boris fanboys.
On the day the ONS announces the official death toll has gone beyond the 100,000 mark, Ricky Spinach thanks the man in charge.
Love truly is blind for the besotted Boris fanboys.
It's the anti Brexits that are most miffed by UK vacination success
I don't think they are Tory drones. There's been nothing good to say about Brexit in recent weeks, so the Brexiteers have been in hiding. Now there's finally a story that lets turn them turn the vaccine rollout into a political point scoring exercise, wave their little England flags and rubbish the EU. So they are out in force and all gleeful for the first time this year. Bless 'em.
This is brilliant. The EU has paid the least, paid the least in funding per capita, the EU plants cant produce as much and now they want the UK provisions. They can go to hell. IF they wont allow fresh fish across the border... why should the EU get vaccines? The French and Germans were VERY quick to stop mask supplies to the UK. The UK should stop the export of vaccines and only sell to nations.
Except the business is part UK owned. Or are you saying the EU now have the right to commandeer anything they want from any business they want in breech of international law and legal agreement?
The vaccines are partly owned by non EU countries so what if they decide they don’t want vaccine made in EU, because they angry at EU holding up delivery. The EU doesn’t own the vaccine they just producing it, like many countries all over the world.
No the UK Astra Zeneca Vaccine is made in Wrexham Wales. they produce 300m doses a year. They also have a smaller factory in Brussels which they are trying to ramp up production which is why they have a EU problem.
I think you need to re-read the article. Then find out what manufactured under licence means.
Some might be made in the EU, but the EU don't own the factories or companies making the vaccine.
2 of the Oxford vaccination manufacturing plants are in the UK and are distributing to the EU..for now.
So your argument that we'd do the same missed by a country mile, if the EU carries on we could always close the one in the EU, if they really want to play games.
2 of the Oxford vaccination manufacturing plants are in the UK and are distributing to the EU..for now.
So your argument that we'd do the same missed by a country mile, if the EU carries on we could always close the one in the EU, if they really want to play games.
Most Oxford vaccine in Europe produced here. Let's pack a ham sandwich in every box.
They are also made in the UK... but the EU is suggesting taking control of those vaccines too as the company's headquarters are in the EU.
Not the AZ vaccine, it is produced in 2 sites in the UK and exported to Germany as well as being used in the UK. The EU supply was to come from a Belgian plant set up to supply the EU but as AZ's French CEO pointed out, the EU ordered very late & so AZ haven't had time to sort out the production. So EU spits out its dummy to cover its ineptitude. It hasn't even approved the AZ vaccine yet.
The EU messed up its vaccine procurement by placing orders too late. And now it's considering blocking (i.e. hijacking) orders that were placed by other countries first, including the UK. This is the same organisation, I'm told by remainers, is super progressive, tolerant and kind...
Ain't even approved it yet
It's showing it's true colour's throughout this pandemic, a protectionist, heavily bureaucratic dinosaur that can't pivot quick enough when they need to.
You forgot "and the rule of law is paramount. Treaties and Contracts are sacrosanct. The process must be followed. Nobody should get special treatment. Free Trade rules - not Bully Boys." etc etc etc
And slow, cumbersome, unable to cooperate, constantly bickering...
Well, a convoluted take on an organisation asking to receive the order it's placed rather than anyone else.
It's exactly what this country would do. Try thinking about it.
It's exactly what this country would do. Try thinking about it.
Utter tosh. They paid AZ to develop this vaccine - we didn't.
Also, we were told how well it looks after its citizens when compared to the UK.
Almost looks as though the people supporting the EU were lying in their teeth, doesn't it?
Meanwhile the useless, incompetent UK which should remain controlled by Brussels so we all benefit, has vaccinated more people and more quickly than the paradise the other side of the Channel.
Almost looks as though the people supporting the EU were lying in their teeth, doesn't it?
Meanwhile the useless, incompetent UK which should remain controlled by Brussels so we all benefit, has vaccinated more people and more quickly than the paradise the other side of the Channel.
Who said they ordered too late. My understandings they only want what they ordered and paid for. If the boot was on the other foot you would by complaining.
I said nothing of the sort - but I still think we should have remained. It's much more than a single issue debate and EU countries were free to order their own (even if they didn't). Spoken to a fisherman recently?
No Remainer I know has ever said the EU were kind! An economic superpower, certainly. Its members benefitting from free and frictionless trade, undoubtedly.
Why should they allow us to have their vaccines after we stabbed them in the back? You reap what you sow. Get over it - you voted for it Brexiteers!
The Germans have finally conquered Europe, France Is their main ally.It’s a shambolic bureaucratic mess, just a couple of high handed,single minded people who simply favour their own national interests & disguise it as good for all.Their high handed approach to UK concerns regarding illegal immigration has already cost them 1 member state, how many more will have to leave before they take note?
The EU vaccine programme has been a complete and utter shambles.
At least we have been actively vaccinating the most vulnerable. Remind me how the EU is getting on?
actually we're third: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
Remind me, isn't Belgium in the EU?
Remind me, isn't Belgium in the EU?
Our government is crap, but the vaccination programme is going very well thus far (touch wood), probably because they couldn't outsource this to their mates!
.......if you're happy to believe the figures being churned out each day
Check out poor Belgium's record - they are having a terrible time. Belgium is a country by the way, it's not just a vassal body of the EU.
When the death figures are broken down Covid is only about 2% how do we know the EU figures are correct?. The highest death rates are in Brazil & the USA in excess of 200,000 in USA alone. Get your facts right.
Dear me, still whinging about being defeated by a democratic vote, unlike the vote that the EU holds to elect it's commission er!! remind me of who voted them in one applicant only, biggest non democratic shambles, I wonder if they organised Uganda's recent elections?
I wouldn't believe half of what the EU says about CV figures. lareg swathes of the land mass is rural and they are not reporting as much or counting as much as you think. Sad case as it is the UK is testing more than the whole EU and that is a larger population than us
Beligium the capital of the EU has a much higher death rate per million inhabitants than the UK.
Perhaps that's the result of the inept NHS that is so beloved of Labour.
How COVID deaths are recorded in some other countries is different. There is no international standard way of doing it. Some are more honest than others that's for sure.
And here we go... a lefty dig at brexit during a completely unrelated conversation. I wondered how long it would take, and it wasn't long!
Lies .. now go do some research and come back and tell the truth, with your tail between your legs
We do not have the worst death rate; where did you get that from?
Do not speak to soon john... EU has only had about 10-20% of the new strains so far and we all know there is no stopping it. The new strains are starting to take hold in EU and that is why they are starting to panic. The next 30 days are looking terrible for the EU
That's not actually correct. The US has the highest total death rate, Belgium has the highest per capita followed by Slovenia.
Oooooh. Get you!!
Bet you will still want your vaccination over here though won’t you
See what the death rate is in three months time. Also would you put up with curfews at 18.00 this isn't over stop trying to score glory points when we don't know how this pandemic is going to pan out. All Govts have got things wrong at least we have got the vaccination programme right.
The worst death rate is in Belgium. This is also were the both the Pfizer vaccine and the EU supply of the AstraZenneca vaccine is being made.
The germans for one count only people who die OF covid, not WITH covid as we do. They still have over 50,000 deaths despite this and despite their "world beating" track and trace. Latter was a waste of time, as here.
maybe our figure are correct and the EU countries with nearby elections not so
In truth the UK is 3rd in world death rates per million people, behind Belgium in 1st place and Slovenia in 2nd, about the same as Czechia 4th and Italy 5th. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
yawn
liar
Makes me wonder why they placed 300m doses of the vaccine with a company in the UK. When they had their own vaccine company inside the EU in Belgian and could have jumped the queue saying because it was an EU company they come first with getting vaccines from them
Because both the vaccine companies in EU are partly owned by third country not in EU.
Pfizer is a us listed company
They are first in line for the French vaccine, having prioritised that under orders from the Macron idiot. Pity that it is months late and nowhere near approval.
The EU hasn't approved the AstraZeneca vaccine. So what's their problem? Perhaps its: "EU Health Commissioner Stella Kyriakides had earlier said the 27-member EU bloc would "take any action required to protect its citizens" - except of course efficiently organise the supply and delivery of vaccine.
If they are so worried then fast track the approval. Then maybe AstaZeneca can allocate some stock to them. Rather than trying to stop people who are willing to use the product from saving lives.
The EU also told other members of the EU they were not allowed to outsource vaccines from any other countries they could only get them from the EU but Germany and France had already been looking to outsource. Dictators
One of the reasons why lots of EU citizens hate the EU. Slow, bureaucratic. I really want the failed state of Italy (huge debts, mafia infiltration of the public sector bankrupted the health care system in the south closing 18 hospitals, 18) to leave. That would be a game changer however, departures it could come from the former eastern Bloc, Poland, Hungary.
Agree pretty pointless complaining about a supply that you have yet to approve. It should be in peoples arms, what do they want, to have it sitting on a shelf ready for the big day when they finally get around to agreeing that AZ is ok. If they poured money in then you would expect they already knew the answer. Next step EU seizes control of all production on the Continent, then MEPs first in Q.
They will approve once they are ready to go. Its looks less incompetent that way
They have a contract with AstraZeneca about getting the vaccine produced before it is approved. They funded the production. But the vaccine isn't there, it is sold to the US and UK who pay more. That is the problem.
They're too slow..as usual and only care about their political project.
EU do have a way to go to catch up with UK
So you are happy that the EU are building an Empire which seems to be coming more authoritarian by the day?
Why is it I feel all this is just the tip of the iceberg. Europe have a bitter taste in their mouth when it now comes to the UK.
So the Eu showing it’s spots no legal action against Pfizer who are also not supplying what they agreed. They are not the only country not getting their full allocation including the uk. What would they say if we did the same thing. Hope the delivery drivers taking the vaccine to Eu have filled in the right paperwork and have left their ham Sandwiches at home
Actually, it was the other way around. The USA imposed sanctions first and the EU responded. But you knew that, didn't you?
isnt it we that are the hypocrites? we've chosen not to work together and so now we complain if they operate in their own interests (and with 27 countries they have a fair bit of clout)
Boeing/Airbus is completely off topic - but it was the other way round with the US taking Airbus/EU to WTO (that's the org. we rely on now) and the truth is the only winners were the lawyers. WTO said direct subsidies by EU to Airbus were unfair as were tax breaks, unusually favourable contract terms and heavily biased military contracts by US. So it was US that started it.
100% correct.
"You couldn't make it up."
But you did just make it up. It didn't happen like that at all.
But you did just make it up. It didn't happen like that at all.
Germany has the highest number of cartels operating than any other country in the world.
“You couldn’t make it up” however you did!!! The WTO arbitrated, looked over 15 years at each sides case and they approved the sanctions and the level of the sanctions that the EU should level against the USA for their state aid for Boeing. Nothing like letting your bias against the EU to cloud the truth, like 99% of the comments n here.
Those in wales producing the wings must really hate the EU for that one. So much so they voted out.
You couldn't make up this sort of rubbish either, if you understood the debate (oh, yes and what the Americans did to destroy the British aircraft industry).
Agreed. The French state still have huge ownership of what seems to be private sector business, Eurostar, EDF and such like. The reason why they fiercely protect the single market is because competition would make many of their firms bankrupt.
The UK would do the same. The EU have a contract with Aztra Zenca(AZ), AZ inform the EU that they are going to fall short of the delivery it promised. Covid is an international emergency and vaccines are a matter of national security and the EU have asked AZ to inform them every time they plan to export supplies. If these exports effect vaccines supplies to the EU then it will ban exports
Seems to me quite a few on here are doing just that, making it up. Reading through this stream of nonsense feels like the ramblings of conspiracy theorists.
Both Astra Zenica and Pfizer have experienced difficulties
They clearly do not want difficulties, they make money the more they sell, so I would believe AZ and Pfizer on this.
European bureaucracy has been slow and they are blaming others for their ineptitude. Slow to approve the drugs, slow to order the right number and slow to administer the vaccines
They clearly do not want difficulties, they make money the more they sell, so I would believe AZ and Pfizer on this.
European bureaucracy has been slow and they are blaming others for their ineptitude. Slow to approve the drugs, slow to order the right number and slow to administer the vaccines
Well said. And EU hasn’t started using or even approved AZ vaccine yet. So if there is a temporary tightening in supply surely you would expect to prioritise those countries that are already using the vaccine today, otherwise would impact ongoing programmes and potentially lead to deaths. EU already has 2 vaccines approved and in use.
Now before we get to the EU being spiteful towards Britain, let's remember that AZ is talking about defaulting on its commitment and the EU is trying to hold them to it.
(But I wouldn't put it past the EU to use it as some sort of leverage later, perhaps until we give them full diplomatic status ... which may be fair enough if they agree to downgrade the embassies of their constituent nations.)
(But I wouldn't put it past the EU to use it as some sort of leverage later, perhaps until we give them full diplomatic status ... which may be fair enough if they agree to downgrade the embassies of their constituent nations.)
I got mine yesterday !
Brilliant :-)
So the EU are blockading vaccine exports that have already been ordered by other countries, to cover up their own failings in vaccine procurement. Selfish and vindictive.
Not so - read the article
Companies making Covid vaccines in the EU would have to "provide early notification whenever they want to export vaccines to third countries"
If supplies of UK manufactured vaccine are not being delivered to the EU per contract, then does it not seem reasonable they monitor delivery of EU sourced vaccine to the UK?
Companies making Covid vaccines in the EU would have to "provide early notification whenever they want to export vaccines to third countries"
If supplies of UK manufactured vaccine are not being delivered to the EU per contract, then does it not seem reasonable they monitor delivery of EU sourced vaccine to the UK?
The EU is a cumbersome & spiteful body unable to get timely decisions made in times of crisis due to the very nature of its political construct.
Balkan war? Absolutely impotent on action
Syrian migrant crisis? Washed its hands of it and left Greece and Italy to rot
Now Covid & vaccines. EU now attempting to drive a wedge between more humans during a time of suffering. They're utterly deplorable
Balkan war? Absolutely impotent on action
Syrian migrant crisis? Washed its hands of it and left Greece and Italy to rot
Now Covid & vaccines. EU now attempting to drive a wedge between more humans during a time of suffering. They're utterly deplorable
Deplorable is how I describe those trying to "drive a wedge between more humans during a time of suffering" by screaming their hatred of our brothers & sisters the other side of the Channel & across the Irish sea.....
Germany took 1 million Syrian refugees last time I looked, how many did the UK take? UK was also an EU member during everything you described, who exactly washed their hands????
I seem to remember that Germany took in more than 1 million Syrian refugees at the height of the crisis.
They still haven't approved The AstraZeneca vaccine, you could not make this stuff up. I have a horrible feeling the riots in the Netherlands are only going to start spreading. Particularly if EU citizens start seeing other countries start opening up as a result of successful vaccine programs. Even the most pro EU types must agree that the optics of this are appalling.
Not with this issue they’re not.
More like the Chuckle Brothers.........
More like the Chuckle Brothers.........
They haven't even approved the vaccine yet so why complain about its distribution just a smoke screen to cover up the EU's poor planning and roll out FOR once old Bojo done something right (well probably)
This Brexit thing isn't going very well is it? Unable to import stuff, unable to export stuff. I thought there was going to be no downside.
Most of the AstraZeneca vaccine which we are using is produced in the UK. The EU has no control.
So the EU will be stopping exports to the UK of their Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (the one which takes longer to manufacture, has smaller production volumes and requires careful handling and has a limited shelf life) and will also be stopping imports of the easier to produce and larger production volume UK AstraZeneca vaccine
I think they are doing us a favour, quite frankly!
I think they are doing us a favour, quite frankly!
Cost is irrelevant if it saves lives and lets us get out of these lockdowns.
But is it as effective?
There has never been any plan to export any of the AZ vaccine from the UK. Their total capacity is however under a quarter of just UK's need. I you listen to all these armchair buffoons spouting 'fortress Britain' and we will be left high and dry with 75% of us dead...
EU are a third rate dictatorship.
They did not use emergency approval as we did - reserved for one person at a time usually. They fully approved the Pfizer one 2 weeks after we emergency approved and may pass the AZ one - if the German reports of it being only 5% effective in the over 65s can be discounted.
Lots of things I liked about the EU: Free movement, Consumer protection, they were responsible for mobile phone calls being charged as one is in the UK, flight compensation, low fees on credit and debit cards which will increase by Mastercard in October, no paperwork for business, EU grants given to poor areas, Wales, Cornwall without political favour unlike both our parties.
However slow, bureaucratic and did not in any way solve long term unemployment and too many EU staff.
The EU may have taken so long in an effort to undermine trust in the UK 's fast track approach, instead of examining what we were doing and seeing that they could speed things up considerably, too. Looks like they'd rather be spiteful to a former member who had the temerity to leave, than protect EU citizens lives.
What don’t Brexiteers understand about Brexit? The EU is responsible for its citizens. We are no longer on the EU. We have ‘taken back control’. The only authority responsible for ensuring GB vaccine supplies is the UK government. It seems cakeist Brexiteers want to blame the EU when we were in, and blame the EU now we are out. Which is it?
So the Eu showing it’s spots no legal action against Pfizer who are also not supplying what they agreed. They are not the only country not getting their full allocation including the uk. What would they say if we did the same thing. Hope the delivery drivers taking the vaccine to Eu have filled in the right paperwork and have left their ham Sandwiches at home
Those customs officers must had though it better to take away those ham sandwiches and make the drivers go into European shops for provisions instead of letting them stay self sufficient in their cabs. Isolated as much as possible from other populations.
A great move in a pandemic!
A great move in a pandemic!
A good reson to ban Danish ham is that they feed thier pigs on procesed sand eels which is causing the puffins a serious problem as it is thier main food source.
AstraZeneca should honour their contractual obligations - if you cannot honour them on this important issue you can never be trusted to honour them. This is not an EU/Brexit issue.
AstraZeneca are not deliberately cutting supplies, they have a manufacturing issue. What do you expect them to do magic it up instead?
we are dealing with biological material here and at the outset of our roll out I remember the health secretary raising possible problems with manufacture The EU are showing their true protectionist colours same as when they seized exports of PPE bound for this country So glad we are out of their mafia inspired club
The delay is down to their EU based outsourced manufacturer.
This Brexit thing isn't going very well is it? Unable to import stuff, unable to export stuff. I thought there was going to be no downside.
That's Israel.
I’m surprised the EU is still even interested in the AstraZeneca vaccine after some of the awful disinformation some German newspapers were trying to spout.
Maybe the EU should work on bettering their handling of vaccine distribution first.
Maybe the EU should work on bettering their handling of vaccine distribution first.
mostly wealthier than the UK,stronger currency,less govt and personal debt and a better life expectancy/standard of living.I could go on.
Or a flustered blush ......
But, if and when our own situation allows, I trust that we can find the humanity, decency and generosity of spirit to offer whatever help we can give wherever it is needed. After all, whilst we are not part of the European Union, we are part of Europe.
But, if and when our own situation allows, I trust that we can find the humanity, decency and generosity of spirit to offer whatever help we can give wherever it is needed. After all, whilst we are not part of the European Union, we are part of Europe.
'Busted flush'... I guess you've been on another planet for the last 4 years, m8.
Soooo busted ! An early demise on the cards hopefully , then a reboot of Europe as it should have remained ....6 or 9 countries at most , no CAP. CFP , light touch from the centre but plenty of frictionless trade . No superstate !!
YES as at the moment they are part of the UK. also they don't need so much because of her faster actions their infection rate is lower than England's
Uk????
Has England produced any oil yet? Or housed any submarines yet? Or had it's ability to manage it's own finances taken away yet?
Penicillin
Insulin
Typhoid vaccine
General Anaesthetic
Treatment for TB
Developing beta blockers
Developing modern asthma therapies
Propofol
HPV vaccine
Insulin
Typhoid vaccine
General Anaesthetic
Treatment for TB
Developing beta blockers
Developing modern asthma therapies
Propofol
HPV vaccine
That's a very good point.
Imagine if the Scottish were producing the vaccine for all of the UK - the SNP would have held the English to ransom for it!
We English have always preferred to share our wealth and resources with the rest of the UK - it's a wonder they all despise us so much, particularly the Scotch.
Imagine if the Scottish were producing the vaccine for all of the UK - the SNP would have held the English to ransom for it!
We English have always preferred to share our wealth and resources with the rest of the UK - it's a wonder they all despise us so much, particularly the Scotch.
Yes, gallons of the stuff called Scotch whiskey..
Nicely illustrates the advantages of homegrown production unless SNP and co. decide to get awkward.
Nicely illustrates the advantages of homegrown production unless SNP and co. decide to get awkward.
Apparently they have around 400,000 does they're not even using, which is odd as they currently have the worst rollout among the entire UK, almost as if the SNP are indeed useless one note charlatans
No she ain’t has she. I just hope that if they do get independence we don’t still finance her health service in fact everything she gets from us
If the Scots want to leave we have to let them. We cannot say you can't leave yet we left the EU and they voted to remain. We have also shafted them. Profitable potato seeds banned by the Brexit deal and shellfish which us lot should be eating is rotting on this side of the border due to paperwork. Crap deal.
You haven't produced either,just copied and pasted from German pharmacy business
Well, it's not only UK but Sweden also, so it's not from England, it's UK
Scotland is part of the UK you muppet!
(For now)
Besides, I believe the Vaccine is not a "UK vaccine". The company is part swedish too. You conveniently forgot that part heh?
(For now)
Besides, I believe the Vaccine is not a "UK vaccine". The company is part swedish too. You conveniently forgot that part heh?
not yet but it's coming ........https://valneva.com/research-development/covid-19-vla2001/
LOL
Lots of embarrassed faces in Holyrood. Covid vaccine battles are a 100 % gift to UK unionists. SNP lost for words.
See what I mean?
EU "bureaucracy and procedure" is not holding up roll-out of the vaccine. Any EU state can use the same protocol as the UK did in order to approve a vaccine for national use, if it wants to. The early UK approval was not a "brexit benefit." It was done within the EU rules. EU nations have largely chosen to stick together and use a more thorough approval process than the UK did.
This is brilliant. The EU has paid the least, paid the least in funding per capita, the EU plants cant produce as much and now they want the UK provisions. They can go to hell. IF they wont allow fresh fish across the border... why should the EU get vaccines? The French and Germans were VERY quick to stop mask supplies to the UK. The UK should stop the export of vaccines and only sell to nations.