Covid: Quarantine hotel plan to be discussed by ministers
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This is great, just about 6 -9 months too late.
Good way to support the hotel business also.
Government subsidisedatio for the hotels - quarantine facilities in return.
Government subsidisedatio for the hotels - quarantine facilities in return.
6 months? This would have only protected the rest of the world from us...
They are only just working on it so I think you are being too optimistic
From the outset students returning to China had to quarantine for 2 weeks then a further 2 weeks at their final onward destination and I believe they have virtually seen off Corona. We just to late. BTW when will footy players stop kissing and cuddling it's a joke.
They were using hotels for isolation almost from day one on Taiwan
But we're just talking about it?
We really are led by idiots.
But we're just talking about it?
We really are led by idiots.
Astonishing. Dictatorship here we come. And the acquiescent public will take it with a smile.
We need to remember Australia is a much bigger country and they jumped on a hard lockdown very quickly. None of this trying to exempt groups find loopholes or get unlocked too quickly. .
True it’s much bigger but the vast majority of the population live in less than 10 cities
"Bigger country"? Sorry, what does land mass have to do with this? Their population is nearly 3 times smaller than the UK!
Sure, for visitors/tourists... but wouldn't this hit some (essential) business travel hard?
In NZ it’s at the travellers expense - with a few exceptions including compassionate reasons.
If you can afford to fly then you can afford to pay for a quarantine hotel.
If you have traveled for business then with a laptop and a phone you can work in your hotel room.
If it’s a holiday then travel wasn’t essential and you pay up. If you plead you can’t afford it then clearly you have a poor sense of priorities.
If you have traveled for business then with a laptop and a phone you can work in your hotel room.
If it’s a holiday then travel wasn’t essential and you pay up. If you plead you can’t afford it then clearly you have a poor sense of priorities.
I have an employee stuck overseas after travelling there for a funeral. Three flights cancelled so far, and when she does finally get on a plane, she might have to stay in a UK hotel at her own expense. And no, she can't work from abroad; the data protection and legal issues are too great. Miserable.
And what if you have no choice but to travel? My daughter has been in Australia for the past two years (she’s currently in an area that has no cases), but her visa expires in two weeks. She won’t be allowed to stay, but also won’t be able to come home as she’ll be unable to afford to pay for quarantine.
Good to see the govt. keeping on top of these things.
It’s worked in Australia therefore it should work here providing its properly enforced and not left to people to do the right thing
Better than nothing - at least that should reduce the chances of new variants arriving. But it worked in Australia because it was implemented near the beginning of the pandemic. Here, with Covid already endemic in the country, I wouldn't anticipate it making a huge difference.
It worked in Australia because they implemented it in day 1. The UK is far from the COVID-free community that would benefit from it. The current situation is one of the worst in Europe and we really thing this is because of international arrivals?
It won’t deal with the endemic infections we already have in the U.K. but it may help to control the influx of new variants.
You can't really compare us with Australia. Australia is a completely isolated continent, we have a land border with the Republic of Ireland for example, are they going to try and get everyone driving across the border in to a quarantine hotel?
If not whats to stop people just flying in to Dublin then driving to the UK and bypassing quarantine....
If not whats to stop people just flying in to Dublin then driving to the UK and bypassing quarantine....
This should have been done months ago. With Captain Hindsight in charge all we get is slogans, guff and promises which are never kept.
Vaccines stop the symptoms and not the spread. Also a number of Self righteous wont have the jab because they are stupid and selfish.
I don't think that this is a bad idea really. It certainly seems a better way of ensuring that people do actually quarantine.
I am however concerned at the rhetoric surrounding the constant new variants and the vaccine not working on them. It would be very unlikely/unlucky for that to happen and it seems like a constant effort to slow the exit strategy which we all desperately need.
I am however concerned at the rhetoric surrounding the constant new variants and the vaccine not working on them. It would be very unlikely/unlucky for that to happen and it seems like a constant effort to slow the exit strategy which we all desperately need.
With the Pfizer vaccine, the first dose takes around ten days to be fully active and they only know this protection lasts until the twenty-first day when the second dose should be administered. By extending the gap to eleven weeks, the government is taking a risk. Effectively they are conducting an unmonitored clinical trial on a large part of the population with little prior knowledge.
It's good to know ministers are "actively working" on something...
And they have stricter lockdown rules than we have had.
With their concentration of population in a small number of cities makes it easier to control travel as well
With their concentration of population in a small number of cities makes it easier to control travel as well
Nearly a year and they are still thinking about it. Johnson's decision-making follows a pattern indicative of a poor leader. Rarely if ever pro-active, he is slowly reactive so that any choices he may have had, disappear until there is only one choice left. This makes for final easy decision-making but often with a costly outcome.
C19 is serious, but this Lockdown fetish is nothing but extreme hubris and virtue signalling.
It’s a symptom of the new rule that emotion trumps logic, common sense and truth.
And the refusal to see that without Lockdown, Sweden is better off than us, is bizarre.
So we now have a cowed, damaged, population; sensitised to their own mortality and understandably, demanding they are saved at any cost.
It’s a symptom of the new rule that emotion trumps logic, common sense and truth.
And the refusal to see that without Lockdown, Sweden is better off than us, is bizarre.
So we now have a cowed, damaged, population; sensitised to their own mortality and understandably, demanding they are saved at any cost.
Originally I thought this was a great idea and would be a success in our fight against Covid. Now I know that "ministers are working on it", I'm not so sure.
They've probably got their best man on it, lets see how grayling does...
Just like "Operation Moon-shot" to test everybody in almost 80 local authority regions like mine, which I read about in the media at the start of November.
Seems to have just disappeared.
Seems to have just disappeared.
If a country like Angola can do this, and have been doing since at least August when I was last there, why can't we?
Because we have far more travellers than Angola and most of south Africa put together - As a country we rely on international trade - Angola relies on UN Soldiers and international aid I guess.
This should have been done right from the start. But still good to do now.
The problem is that the virus is already pandemic in the UK, and how would we have dealt with people coming from Northern Ireland? The have full right to travel within gb, but could easily meet people in Ireland where borders were open.
The problem is that the virus is already pandemic in the UK, and how would we have dealt with people coming from Northern Ireland? The have full right to travel within gb, but could easily meet people in Ireland where borders were open.
Why just "some travellers"?
Shouldn't it be "all travellers" if this year-too-late approach is to be effective?
Shouldn't it be "all travellers" if this year-too-late approach is to be effective?
As we're not self sufficient, it can't be.
Really they should be working on a plan for time travellers because this is a year too late
What they mean is poor people equals enforced hotel quarantine. Rich people can do as they please. Have you not yet understood that rules are for the little people and that Tory donors don't have to follow quarantine, fair tendering, tax rules, etc. I say that as an ex-Conservative voter - this bunch of crooks are not true Conservatives
This is a ridiculous policy.
Populist short term pandering which will do nothing against these variants (guess what - they are already here) but are a further stab in the back to the travel sector.
The government need to get a grip and stop caving in to sensationalist tweets and instead start looking at the bigger, long term picture. Isolationism never leads to prosperity.
Populist short term pandering which will do nothing against these variants (guess what - they are already here) but are a further stab in the back to the travel sector.
The government need to get a grip and stop caving in to sensationalist tweets and instead start looking at the bigger, long term picture. Isolationism never leads to prosperity.
No reason for freight drivers to come over as trailers can be loaded onto ferries in Europe, travel unaccompanied and then hitched up onto a UK truck when offloaded at this end. Gives British drivers work too, rather than low paid foreign hauliers running on cheap diesel.
If only travellers from countries like Brazil and South Africa have to quarantine, they will fly via France or Germany and safe themselves 2 weeks stuck in a hotel room and £2000. We don’t need another loophole.
Yes, it should be ALL travellers. It’s pointless being half arsed about it. And there should be quarantined lorry parks where cargo is switched to UK cabs with UK drivers, that take the delivery to the end destination. It sounds OTT, but it’s needed now. And may be a system we need again if a more deadly pandemic hits in the future. Good to be prepared !
Bit late now. Almost pointless.
Phew, just in the nick of time.
Since al the hotels would otherwise be closed, is this a sign that the Government will actually help the hospitality industry? At last? There must be a catchy in this, surely....
10 months down the line and still only discussing, so much for taking back control ,
Taking back control of what?
You are right they should've done this 10 months ago. 100%.
Then everybody could've called them racists for closing the borders instead of whingeing they didn't.
You are right they should've done this 10 months ago. 100%.
Then everybody could've called them racists for closing the borders instead of whingeing they didn't.
Well it will have to be gone by the time of the G7 in June - if all that lot and there entourages are exempt I for one will be having none of this as it will be another case if one rule for us one rule for them ...
You can bet that there will also soon be another "Climate Summit" to which the usual suspects will all have to travel, and they too will be exempt.
I thought this was the digital age. They could manage to "work from home" just like they want everyone else to do.
I thought this was the digital age. They could manage to "work from home" just like they want everyone else to do.
In that case LGV drivers and aircrew, not tourists and so called celebrities “working” overseas
Are Australia self sufficient? Are New Zealand self sufficient? Are Japan self sufficient? No, and yet they managed it.
Hauliers are exempt so what does being self sufficient have to do with it?
It can't be what??
It's rather too late for plague island. We have amongst the highest body count on the planet and by far the worst political "leaders" in the developed world (now that Trump is gone). We are beyond help, a country destroyed by populism and stupidity.
remoaner bots, lol.
I just looked outside - the country is still here, is not destroyed, and appears to be functioning.
Time people stopped all this hyperbole.
The country is not destroyed, we cannot destroy the planet, people who are a bit miffed about something are not devastated, people who have seen something they didn't expect are not shocked, etc., etc.
This nonsense helps no-one.
Time people stopped all this hyperbole.
The country is not destroyed, we cannot destroy the planet, people who are a bit miffed about something are not devastated, people who have seen something they didn't expect are not shocked, etc., etc.
This nonsense helps no-one.
Whilst I concur with the principle of this quarantine measure, but as a businessman that has to regularly travel overseas, as do our staff, this move concerns me that it will effectively bring our business to a standstill. I sincerely hope that all aspects of such a move are carefully considered. The logic of ensuring no new strains are imported makes sense, the cost to our economy though is big!
Please enlighten us: just what business necessitates you and your staff travelling all over at the moment? Drugs, diamonds, 'elite' sport...? Most business travel isn't really necessary at the best of times (yes, I have done it plenty of times but none of it was vital).
There is no need for any minor to be travelling alone.
China has a far better control of the virus than we do. Maybe we should adopted their approach - There are allot of self entitled special people who could be easily dealt with instead of infecting the rest.
There will be too many exemptions granted to make this viable. Travelling for business? Exempt. An elite athlete? Exempt. Diplomat or MP? Exempt. Hardly anyone else is travelling anyway so it's another white elephant. Rather than set something new up, try dealing with the situation as it is, and that is to vaccinate the elderly, vulnerable and key workers so society can start to function again.
You forgot 'celebrity' , relation of The Prime Minister and 'for the purpose of testing your eyesight'.
Yes So many people that they can claim Heathrow airport is overcrowded But they all tested positive before flying so what’s the problem or were the tests all dodgy?
Business travel should not be exempt, otherwise pointless. Aus quarantined the tennis players, but I think if a sports team that has strict bubbles fair enough that they are exempt, but only from non-high risk countries. Sport continuing is important for the good of nation's mental health.
You forgot to mention if your Irish your exempt.
People are travelling, I work at Stansted and we see busy flights everyday
People who are travelling for business are not exempt in Australia.
Looking at the scenes from Heathrow last week I would hardly say nobody is travelling. Stop all flights now except for very very essential purposes, such as freight.
I would have thought that stopping 200 people parties would be more effective.
All the parties/raves/weddings stories are just weak attempts to put the blame on the public.
I can’t work out why they hand out so few fines. Everyone attending should get one not just 2 or 3 people. Everyone in attendance know full well they are doing wrong.
Do that too. The police have seemed reluctant to get too involved that much. At least they are trying a bit now, but it should be one of their priorities. For egregious rule breaking I'd like to see identities being made public. It's ridicules that most of us are adhering to rules even though painful, while some are making a mockery of us by participating in super-spreader events.
Splitting hospitals (and their staff) into covid or non-covid would have been much more effective at reducing deaths.
Instead of fining the organisers and letting them go, just lock them all in the building for 14 days. No covid, no problem!
Stop the mass gatherings, spray all attendee's purple so everyone can see they could be at risk having contact with them. Let's employers stop paying them for being fools.
I'd say why 'or' why not AND. Clobber the party goers with rather bigger fines AND quarantine overseas arrivals.
Strikes me its not one or the other. We should be forcing proper quarantine measures and stopping parties.
Since al the hotels would otherwise be closed, is this a sign that the Government will actually help the hospitality industry? At last? There must be a catchy in this, surely....
I don't think that this is a bad idea really. It certainly seems a better way of ensuring that people do actually quarantine.
I am however concerned at the rhetoric surrounding the constant new variants and the vaccine not working on them. It would be very unlikely/unlucky for that to happen and it seems like a constant effort to slow the exit strategy which we all desperately need.
I am however concerned at the rhetoric surrounding the constant new variants and the vaccine not working on them. It would be very unlikely/unlucky for that to happen and it seems like a constant effort to slow the exit strategy which we all desperately need.
With the Pfizer vaccine, the first dose takes around ten days to be fully active and they only know this protection lasts until the twenty-first day when the second dose should be administered. By extending the gap to eleven weeks, the government is taking a risk. Effectively they are conducting an unmonitored clinical trial on a large part of the population with little prior knowledge.
Just stop people flying in the pandemic - simple.
Some of have no option.
So tell me what my child should do? They were working overseas. The company they were working for went bankrupt. My child has been left without employment and owed £ks in wages and expenses.
So would you have them living on the streets in a foreign country? Or would you allow a citizen of the UK to return home, where they have free board/lodging until finding other employment? Simple???
So would you have them living on the streets in a foreign country? Or would you allow a citizen of the UK to return home, where they have free board/lodging until finding other employment? Simple???
Did it take you long to come up with that little gem of wisdom?
What type of plane is a pandemic, does easyjet, ryanair & Jet 2 fly such aircraft? Is it still OK to fly on Boeing or even Air Force One if you are a President of USA
Only a year too late!
No. They still think that lockdowns can suppress cold viruses.
Utterly pointless, why the need for quarantine if you have negative test!
Because you might still be infected
What is there to discuss?
Just get on and do it!
Just get on and do it!
It's what NZ and Australia have been doing and compared with the Northern hemisphere nations they have bossed Covid 19 and although travel is restricted their domestic economies are doing fine unlike Europe stuck in lockdowns.
Plus with these new variants a Los Angles one now apparently it's the only option other than completely closing airports like Israel to passengers & only allowing cargo.
Plus with these new variants a Los Angles one now apparently it's the only option other than completely closing airports like Israel to passengers & only allowing cargo.
But there is now huge pressure in NZ to open up as tourism is a huge part of their economy and its tanked - you can’t go these things for long
They are in recession, unemployment rising (and forecasted by their reserve bank to nearly double) and hours worked also falling. People earning less owing to fewer hours each is not good news.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-03/new-zealand-unemployment-rate-rises-as-recession-curbs-hiring
It isn't all roses.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-03/new-zealand-unemployment-rate-rises-as-recession-curbs-hiring
It isn't all roses.
Quarantine is a joke. I know several people who have openly flouted it. If the government were ever seious about it, incoming international arrivals should have been held in isolation cells pending confirmation of two negative tests before release and a ban on private flights into the UK. I'm guessing that sort of policy might have upset some people but do we want to tackle this or not?
I remember on TV last year, the reporter interviewed a British man just returned from abroad, who admitted quite openly it would be going down the pub that night, despite coming from a place which meant he was meant to self-quarantine.
He even had his face mask pulled down to his chin.
But despite being on national news, he would have got away with his behaviour.
He even had his face mask pulled down to his chin.
But despite being on national news, he would have got away with his behaviour.
Electronic Tags for them so if they leave the house they get caught and fined or jailed.
I seem to remember at the beginning of the pandemic they were bussing people to hotels for quarantine. Didn't last long, but definitely happened.
As we're not self sufficient, it can't be.
The article states that quarantine rules are different in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Where on the BBC can this information be found? Or do the BBC not even pretend now to recognise that they have paying customers outside of England?
Because the Welsh Scottish and Northern Irish governments don't have web sites of their own do they. Oh, wait, they do. Did you try to click on the links in the story?
We are told to stay close to home yet people still allowed to fly in and out of the country. Quarantine hotels great idea but as the govt already deciding who shoul be exempt, friends and family perhaps, there is no point . It's everyone or no one.
Don't go abroad then. Simples. By the way, why go abroad at the moment unless for an emergency?
At least it will stop all of the sunbathing airhead "influencers" from coming back from the UAE or wherever and spreading Covid.
At least it will stop all of the sunbathing airhead "influencers" from coming back from the UAE or wherever and spreading Covid.
There will be too many exemptions granted to make this viable. Travelling for business? Exempt. An elite athlete? Exempt. Diplomat or MP? Exempt. Hardly anyone else is travelling anyway so it's another white elephant. Rather than set something new up, try dealing with the situation as it is, and that is to vaccinate the elderly, vulnerable and key workers so society can start to function again.
Just stop people flying in the pandemic - simple.
Like who?
on what basis?
Essential business travel would, no doubt, be exempted.
This is about making sure those who do travel quarantine properly.
It should not be necessary, but has proven necessary because a small number of selfish travellers cannot isolate properly.
This is about making sure those who do travel quarantine properly.
It should not be necessary, but has proven necessary because a small number of selfish travellers cannot isolate properly.
If it's 'essential business' (very little really is) then 'business' can pay. In reality it's mostly Johnson's mates coming back from skiing, Caribbean hols, gap years, etc.
There is no business so essential that they cannot use Skype/Zoom/Video Conferencing. Cuts down on expenses claims so businesses can save money.
Very very little business travel is actually necessary, if you are going to lose that business person for 14 days, you would soon find ways to make it unnecessary.
If it is that essential to travel then the business community will accept the cost of quarantine, including their staff time.
Good there is no reason for business travel; ever heard of video conferencing etc.
Who is travelling business during Covid? These dinosaur companies should be shut down. Video Conference or furlough. No other choices.
'Business travel' is code for free jolly...
As parliament and many businesses have demonstrated beyond doubt is that meetings can be held via web link quite successfully.
As parliament and many businesses have demonstrated beyond doubt is that meetings can be held via web link quite successfully.
There is no such thing as "essential business travel". Work virtually, that is the answer.
so essentially you are asking what zoom or microsoft teams are.
It's rather too late for plague island. We have amongst the highest body count on the planet and by far the worst political "leaders" in the developed world (now that Trump is gone). We are beyond help, a country destroyed by populism and stupidity.
Is that your best shot....all this isolationist talk will be right up the street of the Brexit little Engarlunders......
What if you cant afford to pay for hotel .sick of these idiots thinking everyone has thousands in the bank
Don't go abroad then.
I suspect that the existing rules require that travelers to the UK be able to demonstrate financial means if challenged at boarder control. I’m not sure, but I suspect that this has always been the case for travelers from outside the EU.
Then don't come to the country.
You don't see people moaning about flights needing to be free because poor people can't afford the fare. It merely becomes part of the cost of travelling.
You don't see people moaning about flights needing to be free because poor people can't afford the fare. It merely becomes part of the cost of travelling.
Then don't travel, nothing can be that important over stopping the spread and infecting families.
Why are they international jetsetters then? Can you name grounds for someone who can't afford a hotel to fly around the world? 'Migrant' won't do it for me at the moment.
There are many reasons why minors travel alone. You obviously don't know why they travel you assume there is no need for them to do so. Many are currently learning online in another country as schools here closed. Many parents sent their children to be cared for by relatives whilst they continue to work. Many working looking after your relatives, friends and neighbours in hospital with covid 19.
The time for actively working on this was last February. Just how far behind reality are the bunch of clowns masquerading as a government?
How many people thinking we should had shut down last February let their children go with the schools skiing in Italy when they had several cases over near the ski slopes. Why didn't the schools and parents decide to postpone it. Why were people still flying on holidays in march. I suppose the same reason they did in the summer and will do again some people can't just think for themselves
There will be too many exemptions granted to make this viable. Travelling for business? Exempt. An elite athlete? Exempt. Diplomat or MP? Exempt. Hardly anyone else is travelling anyway so it's another white elephant. Rather than set something new up, try dealing with the situation as it is, and that is to vaccinate the elderly, vulnerable and key workers so society can start to function again.
A number of countries have reported people going to them with faked test results, and also as done up to 72 hours before starting the flight, that does give time for the person to get infected.
Seems in one case, a person flying from Heathrow elsewhere had a negative test, when undergoing quarantine at their destination seems to have got infected at the airport when eating there.
Seems in one case, a person flying from Heathrow elsewhere had a negative test, when undergoing quarantine at their destination seems to have got infected at the airport when eating there.
It's what NZ and Australia have been doing and compared with the Northern hemisphere nations they have bossed Covid 19 and although travel is restricted their domestic economies are doing fine unlike Europe stuck in lockdowns.
Plus with these new variants a Los Angles one now apparently it's the only option other than completely closing airports like Israel to passengers & only allowing cargo.
Plus with these new variants a Los Angles one now apparently it's the only option other than completely closing airports like Israel to passengers & only allowing cargo.
"The government is "actively working on" requiring some travellers arriving into the UK to quarantine in hotels, Boris Johnson ??"
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS, SUCH AS AUSTRALIA
Why hasn't this incompetent PM and incompetent government done this last year ???
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS, SUCH AS AUSTRALIA
Why hasn't this incompetent PM and incompetent government done this last year ???
Have you not seen Australia has a strict number of people they will allow into their country and that includes there citizens, remember the outcry of the tennis players jumping the Q.
Now relate that to all our irresponsible selfish individuals that went abroad last summer, most of them would see be waiting to get home, if this comes in forget a holiday aboard this year.
Now relate that to all our irresponsible selfish individuals that went abroad last summer, most of them would see be waiting to get home, if this comes in forget a holiday aboard this year.
Most of these island nations are rather further apart from their neighbours than we are. No doubt we would see more unauthorised entry by sea than we currently do.
Love the graphics!
I wouldn’t trust this current circus to run a bath, or count paper clips in a stationary department
Australia has it easy, it's an island!
Oh, hang on.......
Oh, hang on.......
Because the WHO didn't categorise it as crisis until May.Don't keep on criticising Govt .... the medics were slow
10 months down the line and still only discussing, so much for taking back control ,
"Then everybody could've called them racists for closing the borders"
You can be sure that that would have been the case, and the loudest complaints would have come from idiotic journalists, especially in certain broadcasting organisations, who have racism as an obsession bordering on the mental-health problem level, while actively promoting it all the time.
You can be sure that that would have been the case, and the loudest complaints would have come from idiotic journalists, especially in certain broadcasting organisations, who have racism as an obsession bordering on the mental-health problem level, while actively promoting it all the time.
Tory virtue signalling looks very strange.
As hotels are closed otherwise, it would be a great idea to have them as
A) quarantine locations but only if strictly enforced and it applies to all incomers;
B) overspill accommodation for those Covid patients who are recovering and not in need of acute care; and
C) overspill accommodation to relocate positive tested care home residents to prevent spread.
Better late than never . Learn from NZ.
A) quarantine locations but only if strictly enforced and it applies to all incomers;
B) overspill accommodation for those Covid patients who are recovering and not in need of acute care; and
C) overspill accommodation to relocate positive tested care home residents to prevent spread.
Better late than never . Learn from NZ.
In order for it to make any difference there needs to be a very low R and track and trace has to be working. Currently neither of those conditions are met.
This should also be extended to those who flout the lockdown rules and those who refuse to have the vaccine. This should have been done last March, Hindsight is a wonderful excuse. Time to get tough.
Sounds like complete fascism.
remoaner bots are out in force, lol.
12 months too late. Government knew & were warned this time last year. It proves no contingency plans were designed for a major pandemic following SARs & ebola outbreaks.
Too little, too late.
Countries in the far east and oceania have been doing this for months. MONTHS.
Countries in the far east and oceania have been doing this for months. MONTHS.
The Agenda 2030 people, the Great Reset people, the Green New Deal people, the Eugenicist (population reduction) people and the Corona Virus alarm people all appear to be singing from the same songsheet.
Now they say they want quarantine hotels for this not very lethal cold virus.
But they really want to destroy modern industrial society. Removed
Now they say they want quarantine hotels for this not very lethal cold virus.
But they really want to destroy modern industrial society. Removed
so business people can not contract viruses? If it is that essential to your business you can do the isolation too.
To put it simply anyone coming into the country should be quarantined at or close to the port of entry (air, sea or rail), and they should be guarded to make sure they comply with the quarantine - No exceptions for "celebs", "Politicians" etc.
Road and rail haulage, for sea crossings send trailers only pick up with tractors on arrival. Rail same principal one crew that goes back and forth.
Road and rail haulage, for sea crossings send trailers only pick up with tractors on arrival. Rail same principal one crew that goes back and forth.
Same for the rave mobs.
Do not let them mix with the police or go home to spread it further, lock them in for 2 weeks where they are and throw a few stale loaves of bread in from time to time
Do not let them mix with the police or go home to spread it further, lock them in for 2 weeks where they are and throw a few stale loaves of bread in from time to time
Cannot close all the borders, it against good friday agreement to shut border with ireland. Everybody keeps saying look at australia or New zealand but they have no daily ferry crossings from other countries, also Australian states closed off borders to each other, it like closing all internal borders in UK ie England / Scotland etc
About 11 months too late??!!
If we're going to squash this properly, we should prepare for a PROPER lockdown, with at least 1 month's notice for all to prepare what'll be necessary (food/systems/army etc.) and really have nobody go outside for a full two weeks, all while travel stops.
Do it while the weather is still cold, it just won't work in summer.
Always too little too late.
If we're going to squash this properly, we should prepare for a PROPER lockdown, with at least 1 month's notice for all to prepare what'll be necessary (food/systems/army etc.) and really have nobody go outside for a full two weeks, all while travel stops.
Do it while the weather is still cold, it just won't work in summer.
Always too little too late.
Utter nonsense. Outside isn't the problem in 99% of cases, it's inside. Presumably you'd shut the hospitals too and just let anyone who takes seriously ill die at home?
They're working on it. Now tell me again, how long has this virus been around? But hey, in true Johnson style he's working on it.
A year into this pandemic and it has only just occurred to the government that people entering the UK should be quarantined
No wonder the UK has the highest number of fatalities from COVID than any country in Europe
No wonder the UK has the highest number of fatalities from COVID than any country in Europe
No, it has occurred that their gamble to keep airlines and economy in £ has failed
This was always risk versus reward
They prized the £ reward over the consequence in lives
This was always risk versus reward
They prized the £ reward over the consequence in lives
Its also because so many brits are overweight and have underlying health issues because of poor diet
We do have the highest number in total, but are 3rd both in Europe and indeed the world per capita behind Belgium and Slovenia. Still awful however to be even 3rd.
The first non-European country in fatalities per capita is USA which is 8th.
The first non-European country in fatalities per capita is USA which is 8th.
We happen to use a different method of reporting deaths as anyone that's tested positive within 28 days regardless as to whether Covid was the actual cause of death!! It is very serious but it is not smallpox or bubonic plague!!
This is a ridiculous policy.
Populist short term pandering which will do nothing against these variants (guess what - they are already here) but are a further stab in the back to the travel sector.
The government need to get a grip and stop caving in to sensationalist tweets and instead start looking at the bigger, long term picture. Isolationism never leads to prosperity.
Populist short term pandering which will do nothing against these variants (guess what - they are already here) but are a further stab in the back to the travel sector.
The government need to get a grip and stop caving in to sensationalist tweets and instead start looking at the bigger, long term picture. Isolationism never leads to prosperity.
The counting of deaths is massively variable and the french only count deaths in hospital from covid, so add another 25 to 30 percent on top for france
They shouldn’t be quarantined
Simply just stopped from coming here,, apart from freight and humanitarian reasons
10 months to late to be putting the closed sign up in the shop window
Simply just stopped from coming here,, apart from freight and humanitarian reasons
10 months to late to be putting the closed sign up in the shop window
There are many reasons for that and most not the responsibility of the government. We have become an overweight unfit spoilt nation who cannot bear to have our ‘freedoms’ curtailed even for a short time and that has prolonged the pandemic.
Why don’t they enforce the current rules properly. The UK border is like Swiss cheese with truckers coming and going. There is no way this is practical, if it works how do you open up again? Will we ban travel for months, a year, 2 years!? At least if they implement it please no exemptions for sports people and VIPs. They can quarantine in an airport hotel with no windows like the rest of us.
If people were not travelling between countries then this would stop the spread, I'm wouldn't contemplate going abroad at this time or in the near future!
It would stop the spread *between* countries - certainly a good thing in regard to control of new variants - but Covid is already endemic in most countries on the planet, so I doubt it will make a major impact on transmission *within* countries.
Why don't they try this novel approach, ban FLYING!!!! and leaving country for ANY reason, this is a worldwide pandemic.
it seems you do not understand what the word fascism means.
Hindsight, great isnt it....
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Quarantine is a joke. I know several people who have openly flouted it. If the government were ever seious about it, incoming international arrivals should have been held in isolation cells pending confirmation of two negative tests before release and a ban on private flights into the UK. I'm guessing that sort of policy might have upset some people but do we want to tackle this or not?
remoaner bots are out in force, lol.
Ministers, working?
Actively?
On what they should have done on day one?
Actively?
On what they should have done on day one?
The incompetent PM ?? should have introduced hotel quarantining months ago!
But he's an idiot.
And another thing that's ridiculous is all these different, changing rules for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. This is just
???? INSANE ????
Who can keep up with it?
4 sets of rules rapidly changing.
This devolution rubbish is destroying the UK Removed
But he's an idiot.
And another thing that's ridiculous is all these different, changing rules for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. This is just
???? INSANE ????
Who can keep up with it?
4 sets of rules rapidly changing.
This devolution rubbish is destroying the UK Removed
Is it? I honestly so not know the breakdown of people are who are travelling now, or why they are travelling - and I don't think you do either. Top-end tourism may account for some percentage, but how large? I'd guess that people with friends/family connections in other countries may well account for more.
soso you think 95% is limited. Also for something to have an effect, there will undoubtedly be side effects. If it does not have side effects it will not have an effect.
I guess if they increased the prices for food you would advise us to not eat?
There will be too many exemptions granted to make this viable. Travelling for business? Exempt. An elite athlete? Exempt. Diplomat or MP? Exempt. Hardly anyone else is travelling anyway so it's another white elephant. Rather than set something new up, try dealing with the situation as it is, and that is to vaccinate the elderly, vulnerable and key workers so society can start to function again.
Everything's Premier, but the price.
Except on this occasion I expect!
Except on this occasion I expect!
It’s a daft idea as there will be a 1001 ways to circumvent it - everyone arriving should have a negative test and there is a place for hotels if inbound from high risk countries - what about the 5000 plus lorry drivers which arrive daily - totally pointless and unworkable ??
First, I completely understand why and this should have been implemented a long time ago. Second, it is a hard one if you have a relative who is terminally ill. It might mean than some people don't see a parent or even child again. Not everyone undertakes international travel because of recreational or work purposes.
. Second, it is a hard one if you have a relative who is terminally ill.
My wife was in hospital (not with Covid) and I couldn't see her the first week(no visiting) at all and the next two weeks got only an hour a day (in PPE). Though she had terminal cancer by the time they bundled her out at an hours notice her mental state was such I think she just gave up.
My wife was in hospital (not with Covid) and I couldn't see her the first week(no visiting) at all and the next two weeks got only an hour a day (in PPE). Though she had terminal cancer by the time they bundled her out at an hours notice her mental state was such I think she just gave up.