Odogwu and Randall called up by England
22/01/2021 | sport | rugbyunion | 917
In-form uncapped duo Paolo Odogwu and Harry Randall are named in England's squad for the forthcoming Six Nations.
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22/01/2021 16:35:59 12 3
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Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
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22/01/2021 16:39:40 6 4
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Willis and Joseph have been a bit quiet recently.
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22/01/2021 16:43:49 2 1
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Sad to see Willis not being recognised in this squad, probably wouldn't have had too many game minutes in any case, so happy to see him keep playing for Wasps.
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ed
22/01/2021 18:55:43 0 1
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He's there or there abouts still ticking over nicely. Very competitive back row. Odogwu has been a revelation but struggles when teams go aerial. I've been most surprised by his defence. As a wasps fan I knew he had potential but give him a bit of confidence and the ball and he makes yards. Annoyed about Robson who has been playing well.
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22/01/2021 20:42:30 0 1
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Joseph is over the top not doing it for his club,Willis should be in but who do you drop.
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22/01/2021 16:36:15 4 2
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More building for the future
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22/01/2021 16:37:55 31 4
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Great opportunity for Obano - he's got a future. Hopefully he'll get more than a trip to Pennyhill Park and a long drive back down the M4 without muddying his boots.
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22/01/2021 17:44:49 13 70
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England - purveyors of Yawn Rugby.
The English can't dance with any rhythm, or even sing in tune. Though would have to admit, the quality has improved with the increasing numbers of Pacific Islanders in the team.
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22/01/2021 16:38:15 3 2
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3 exciting players to watch, would be great to see them make the match day squad.
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22/01/2021 16:38:40 2 3
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Great, there goes Bath’s front row!!
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22/01/2021 18:06:44 2 1
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Just about the only thing that was working for us at the moment :-(
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22/01/2021 16:39:22 29 12
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Tough break for Sinckler to be completely omitted but he needs to be made an example of for his actions
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22/01/2021 17:05:30 12 9
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If you think he'll be sitting out the whole of the 6 Nations then, well...I happen to have just acquired the rights to sell Tower Bridge, and I can let you have it for next to nothing.
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22/01/2021 17:24:30 3 4
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Liam Williams got away lightly having indulged in yet another dangerous tackle and gobbling off at the referee. Sinckler just gobbed off under provocation
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22/01/2021 19:02:59 0 6
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The ref was awful in that game. Referees have next to no knowledge of the scrum and was the provoking cause of Sinckler's reaction. When do Refs ever get hauled over the coals for farcical performances? No match bans for them!
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22/01/2021 16:39:38 6 5
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Backs look spot on. Might have had Willis for Wilson. Sinckler one is difficult given COVID and his ban.
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22/01/2021 16:35:59 12 3
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Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
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22/01/2021 16:39:40 6 4
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Willis and Joseph have been a bit quiet recently.
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22/01/2021 16:50:35 2 1
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So have the Saracens players
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23/01/2021 02:33:48 0 0
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Jones has played Joseph on the wing instead of his best position at centre so he has been shafted. He never plays wing for Bath so should not have been asked to play there for England
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22/01/2021 16:40:32 21 5
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Randall has opted for England, pity from a Welsh perspective and definately one to watch for the future.
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GR
22/01/2021 16:48:37 41 5
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I for one am glad he chose England. He was born in England and both his parents are English. I'm Welsh and raised in England, I would only ever have wanted to play for Wales.
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22/01/2021 18:00:24 0 1
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I take it you are being humorous with this wind up
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23/01/2021 13:00:09 0 0
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Hopefully he'll be allowed to play and not forced into the dull tactical blackboard procedure-based game that Jones loves so much.
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22/01/2021 16:40:38 43 6
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Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
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22/01/2021 16:46:17 9 28
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Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
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22/01/2021 16:50:56 1 2
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Who would drop out for Spencer to play?
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22/01/2021 17:47:46 7 2
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Huge fan of Spencer and would always have him ahead of Robson but Randall is the future.
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22/01/2021 20:50:41 3 1
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Shoot Young's or find out what Young's knows about EJ
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22/01/2021 16:41:49 45 6
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Good to see Randall's and Odogwu's club performances being recognised, both have been exciting to watch. Though, I query how many game minutes they will actually get, and is the primary driver here due to other nation eligibility (Wales and Italy).
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22/01/2021 17:15:33 2 46
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MORE Rugby?
Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
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22/01/2021 16:42:56 2 5
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Wales should have gone for Pat Lam, so they could have got Randall and Sheedy for the future. Too late now.
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GR
22/01/2021 16:45:22 4 2
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Doh...Sheedy has already opted for and played for Wales.
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22/01/2021 16:49:42 0 1
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Wales couldn't afford the compensation or salary Lam would command, stop dreaming
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22/01/2021 17:59:05 1 1
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Er... This is yet another of your posts that make no sense whatsoevrr.
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22/01/2021 16:43:47 2 7
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Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
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22/01/2021 16:46:17 3 3
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You forgot "get them seriously injured" then drop them.
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22/01/2021 16:51:11 1 1
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Won 3 six nations; beat Australia 3-0 in Oz; spanked the ABs in a RWC SF; beat every team in the top 10; but, yes, you know best.
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22/01/2021 16:59:14 0 1
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Probably true but then again he is young enough still.
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22/01/2021 16:35:59 12 3
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Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
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22/01/2021 16:43:49 2 1
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Sad to see Willis not being recognised in this squad, probably wouldn't have had too many game minutes in any case, so happy to see him keep playing for Wasps.
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22/01/2021 17:35:35 2 1
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He’s unfortunate to be in an immensely competitive position across the back row, and I think on current form Ben Earl is a more deserving selection.
It’s undoubtedly a selection of riches that Eddie Jones can pick from and afford to leave Willis, Sam Simmonds et al out (and that’s before Dombrandt, Ben Curry and others are even mentioned)
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GR
22/01/2021 16:44:26 5 6
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The 6 nations this season will not hold the same value as its predecessors. Perhaps use it for giving the up and coming players a chance.

I predict the least memorable 6 nations ever.
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22/01/2021 17:16:20 0 2
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Why shouldn't it ? Unless it gets cancelled there won't be a asterisk next to the name on the cup.
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22/01/2021 17:26:39 1 1
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It is much more likely to be a 4 nations, as France and Italy are unlikely to travel from their own shores.
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22/01/2021 17:28:00 0 1
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If it's poor you and many others will remember it for that reason for a good few years yet!
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22/01/2021 16:42:56 2 5
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Wales should have gone for Pat Lam, so they could have got Randall and Sheedy for the future. Too late now.
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GR
22/01/2021 16:45:22 4 2
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Doh...Sheedy has already opted for and played for Wales.
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22/01/2021 16:45:46 2 8
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Randall was always going to struggle to break into the Welsh squad as that is an area of strength in depth. Still a shame to see him deciding to throw his lot in with England. Best of luck to him.
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22/01/2021 16:50:08 12 3
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I guess he didn’t fancy finishing 5th in his first ever 6N.
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22/01/2021 16:51:23 1 1
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He said he considers himself English
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Dad
22/01/2021 16:55:08 0 1
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Randall is English. Playing and living in England. Why would he go to Wales which is one of the only positions in the Welsh team with any strength in depth?
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22/01/2021 17:20:59 2 1
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Strength in depth? Really? A number of average scrum halfs I'd say
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22/01/2021 17:24:43 1 3
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The truth is, no one in Wales has ever heard of Randall. When you have the trio Pivac has selected at 9 even Youngs would never feature. Fact.
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22/01/2021 17:57:50 2 1
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Yes, you would think he would search out some Scottish or Irish forebears so he could play alongside decent attacking players.
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22/01/2021 16:46:08 10 6
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Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
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22/01/2021 16:50:09 11 16
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Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
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Dad
22/01/2021 16:52:09 6 3
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Redpath is Scottish. End of story. Would expect Jones to have sounded him out but told him he would have to win an England place on merit Caps from Scotland much easier to come by. No blame attached to Jones.
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ed
22/01/2021 19:02:42 2 4
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At least he is actually Scottish unlike the majority of the squad. I hope he's been brushing up on his afrikaans.
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22/01/2021 16:43:47 2 7
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Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
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22/01/2021 16:46:17 3 3
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You forgot "get them seriously injured" then drop them.
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22/01/2021 16:40:38 43 6
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Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
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22/01/2021 16:46:17 9 28
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Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
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22/01/2021 16:50:49 8 1
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He's 28 and spent most of his career at Sarries playing with England and Lions players
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22/01/2021 17:03:21 4 1
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One for the future??? He's 29 this year!!!
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23/01/2021 12:53:30 0 0
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What a silly comment about old boys system and perhaps you failed to notice the Bath players selected in both squads - on merit!
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23/01/2021 16:54:50 0 0
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Spencer's 28, his future's behind him
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22/01/2021 16:46:38 3 3
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Nice balance in the squad, lets hope for more entertaining rugby than in the Autumn
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22/01/2021 17:26:37 0 8
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I think this is the best squad ever, and probably will play the most exciting rugby of all the six nation teams. They will probably win the next World Cup the same as they did the last one
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22/01/2021 16:47:12 20 3
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Bring on some six nations rugby - yes it would be better with a crowd but something is better than nothing and I'm sure the game needs the influx of TV money.

Just hope all the games get completed as Covid cancellations devalue the competition
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22/01/2021 16:47:17 0 1
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Can I not count or is there not 29 players listed not 28 as stated.
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22/01/2021 17:12:52 0 1
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Dunn is in twice, but should only be in the shadow squad (according to the RFU website).
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22/01/2021 17:22:49 0 3
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Eddie Jones was never any good at maths and hum ility. Apparently, France 2 in his eyes were stronger than France 1
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22/01/2021 16:48:16 2 2
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That's 29 players???
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22/01/2021 16:50:55 3 2
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Tom Dunn is erroneously included in the list
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22/01/2021 16:53:06 0 1
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Think they have it wrong Tom Dunn is in the shadow squad according to the RFU website!
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22/01/2021 16:53:38 3 1
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Dunn isn't in. Apparently £4 billion per year is not enough to get the BBC to be able to cut and paste.
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22/01/2021 16:40:32 21 5
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Randall has opted for England, pity from a Welsh perspective and definately one to watch for the future.
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GR
22/01/2021 16:48:37 41 5
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I for one am glad he chose England. He was born in England and both his parents are English. I'm Welsh and raised in England, I would only ever have wanted to play for Wales.
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22/01/2021 17:01:54 0 3
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He has to look to his future as well. Who will pay his mortgage !?
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22/01/2021 16:48:53 15 3
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Looks like a pretty well balanced squad, from what I have seen of Randall. Odogwu and Obano they look to have good futures ahead of them.
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pip
22/01/2021 17:56:29 8 2
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Im worried about Randall. He has a very dynamic, forward thinking running game. Eddie is more a no.9 kicking from the base fan so will be interesting to see if the good stuff is coached out of him. He's some prospect though and improving all the time including his game management.
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22/01/2021 16:49:23 94 19
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What do Sam and Joe Simmonds have to do to get in to this squad?? Baffled at the same old same old in a number of positions.

Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
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22/01/2021 16:58:29 44 26
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Unless your Ford or Farrell, you don't stand a chance being selected as 10. It's a clicky squad where the Ford and Farrell essentially coach the backline themselves.
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22/01/2021 17:02:27 19 26
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Can noone see that Sam and Joe Simmonds are not better players than the current players in that position.

Joe is the lesser player of both Ford and Farrell and Sam is not better than Curry, Underhill, Vunipola or Willis
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Ali
22/01/2021 17:08:42 13 3
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The reluctance of Jones to select more Exeter players has been baffling for a number of seasons. Still I doubt Rob Baxter will complain ......keeps his players fresh.
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22/01/2021 17:43:11 4 9
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Would be interested to know who you think they would replace? Ford and Farrell aren't going anywhere and the only like for like replacement in the back row is Ben Earl and Sam S is not at his level.
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22/01/2021 19:21:52 3 3
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What does Joe Simmonds really offer. ? Not a patch on Ford - or even Farrel !
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22/01/2021 19:47:42 1 1
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Sam’s been around England squads in the past and got his caps - I imagine Eddie’s had a good look at him and decided to look elsewhere.

Joe, on the other hand, is in my view (Quins fan) the best player in the Premiership at the moment. I would have him in every squad if only to keep George and Owen on their toes.
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22/01/2021 20:29:45 0 1
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Just hope EJ caps them and doesn’t lose them to other countries,we seem to have lost a few under EJ,I know the next game is the main thing but planning for the future is necessary.
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22/01/2021 20:36:19 1 2
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Get better obviously. They aren't picked because they aren't as good. End of. Now dry your eyes
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22/01/2021 22:56:29 1 6
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Answer: The Simmonds brothers could be the best players in the world and Jones still wouldn't pick them, as revenge for bitter Baxter's vendetta against Sarries (Jones clearly has a loyalty to Sarries). If they'd played for a different club other than Chiefs, then they would be in the squad no problem.
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23/01/2021 00:58:33 2 0
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There are better players ahead of them. It may seem tough; but that is life.

England has deep resources at the moment and, yet, a few years ago they had absolutely no depth in the backrow... now look at England's options there.
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23/01/2021 16:50:55 0 0
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Well Joe has to get fit while Sam has to get fat and change his name to Vunipola.
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22/01/2021 16:42:56 2 5
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Wales should have gone for Pat Lam, so they could have got Randall and Sheedy for the future. Too late now.
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22/01/2021 16:49:42 0 1
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Wales couldn't afford the compensation or salary Lam would command, stop dreaming
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22/01/2021 16:45:46 2 8
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Randall was always going to struggle to break into the Welsh squad as that is an area of strength in depth. Still a shame to see him deciding to throw his lot in with England. Best of luck to him.
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22/01/2021 16:50:08 12 3
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I guess he didn’t fancy finishing 5th in his first ever 6N.
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22/01/2021 17:25:27 0 2
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The first ever 6 nations was over a century ago, drip!
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22/01/2021 16:46:08 10 6
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Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
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22/01/2021 16:50:09 11 16
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Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
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22/01/2021 16:54:37 1 1
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...you mean get a game?
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22/01/2021 17:09:33 3 2
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But not bothered about winning something though eh!
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22/01/2021 16:39:40 6 4
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Willis and Joseph have been a bit quiet recently.
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22/01/2021 16:50:35 2 1
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So have the Saracens players
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22/01/2021 16:46:17 9 28
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Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
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22/01/2021 16:50:49 8 1
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He's 28 and spent most of his career at Sarries playing with England and Lions players
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22/01/2021 18:44:46 3 1
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Part of the reason I think he has been overlooked is that he spent too long at Saracens as second / third choice, when he would have been a shoe in at 9 for at least 6 other clubs
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22/01/2021 16:48:16 2 2
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That's 29 players???
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22/01/2021 16:50:55 3 2
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Tom Dunn is erroneously included in the list
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22/01/2021 17:12:57 0 1
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Erroneous is a big word for someone who doesn't seem to understand that all positions need to have three options. The locks that can double at blindside, backrowers that can play at two of the positions, two fly halfs one who doubles a t centre, an interchangeable back three. I am worried at tight head and scrum half depth.
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22/01/2021 16:40:38 43 6
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Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
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22/01/2021 16:50:56 1 2
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Who would drop out for Spencer to play?
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ben
22/01/2021 17:19:31 13 3
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Ben Youngs would. In my squad and many others anyway! I'm not one of the anti-Youngs brigade at all, but I think Spencer is the best 9 in England by a modest margin. Jones disagrees - and I am at least delighted to see Randall in there 100% on merit.
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22/01/2021 17:39:31 4 2
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Youngs...is he still going to be there for England at RWC 2023 in France? I think he's been an excellent servant for us over the years, but I think now is the time for him to bow out and to start building the side for 2023, although there is a strong argument to say the Autumn Internationals might be a better option.
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LH
23/01/2021 01:17:10 1 1
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Youngs!
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23/01/2021 08:47:06 0 0
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Ben youngs
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22/01/2021 16:43:47 2 7
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Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
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22/01/2021 16:51:11 1 1
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Won 3 six nations; beat Australia 3-0 in Oz; spanked the ABs in a RWC SF; beat every team in the top 10; but, yes, you know best.
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22/01/2021 16:51:19 30 4
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Splendid selection.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
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22/01/2021 17:04:32 8 3
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Couldn't agree with you more.
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ben
22/01/2021 17:15:04 2 1
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Spot on. Is it the first time Jones has made decisions based on club form?!
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22/01/2021 17:19:21 0 5
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The 6 nations is hardly a place for a run out, friend. Ireland, Wales and France will be looking forward to these guys being sent on the field.
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23/01/2021 16:59:35 0 0
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What about 8 tries already, reigning European player of the year and double championship winner Sam Simmonds?
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22/01/2021 16:45:46 2 8
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Randall was always going to struggle to break into the Welsh squad as that is an area of strength in depth. Still a shame to see him deciding to throw his lot in with England. Best of luck to him.
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22/01/2021 16:51:23 1 1
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He said he considers himself English
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22/01/2021 16:46:08 10 6
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Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
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Dad
22/01/2021 16:52:09 6 3
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Redpath is Scottish. End of story. Would expect Jones to have sounded him out but told him he would have to win an England place on merit Caps from Scotland much easier to come by. No blame attached to Jones.
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22/01/2021 17:03:01 1 1
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Thanks daaaaaaaaaad.

(just had to, sorry!)
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22/01/2021 16:52:14 86 4
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Pleased for Mark Wilson. Tough area that & he’s a little underrated.
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Ben
22/01/2021 17:13:41 38 4
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Absolutely - he has never been anything other than excellent for England and Jones clearly likes his work ethic and understated brilliance.
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22/01/2021 17:52:09 7 3
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Spot on. He's been a little under the radar but his work rate is phenomenal. I think what separates the likes of him and Earl from Willis and Simmonds is consistent 80 minute performances. Thet never do missing for parts of the game.
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22/01/2021 18:20:16 4 1
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There wasn't much chance of him not being considered. His performances have done much to keep Newcastle up there. He seems to fit with Jones mindset, one of the few of late I agree with. Although Randall has certainly attracted the eye. Still a long way to go.
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22/01/2021 20:12:53 12 4
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I think Billy V is over rated and picked because he's an EJ favourite.A couple of seasons ago when BV was injured,Mark Wilson put in some MoM performances at 8 during the Autumn Internationals.Delighted that his form at Newcastle has been rewarded.
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22/01/2021 20:25:34 2 3
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Be quite honest if Wilson played for a fashionable club his name would always be on the match day team sheet.A lot of Bath players in who don’t deserve it.Watson is doing nothing and Obano and Stuart are penalties waiting to happen.Feel sorry for Willis he is still the best in the Prem and wins games.
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Scg
22/01/2021 20:34:27 6 0
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Proper grafter, more than a bit of the Richard Hill about him.
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22/01/2021 22:51:50 4 0
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Gutted he'll miss 7/8 games for Falcons but delighted he'll be going against the Scots (& Gary Graham)!
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22/01/2021 23:07:59 3 1
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Wilson is a good player but not next WC material. Where is Dombrant ?
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23/01/2021 09:08:53 1 0
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Spot on - he’s been ripping in to it for Falcons and looks stronger than ever.
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22/01/2021 16:53:02 30 4
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Congratulations Paolo Odogwu. Yet another Leicester Academy player doing well for other clubs. This is the reason Tigers went from a top club to a laughing stock, not giving their own products opportunities in order to bring in imports that were happy to come for a pension top up!!
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22/01/2021 18:06:13 6 1
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What’s Thorley done wrong I ask?
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22/01/2021 18:51:01 1 1
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Spot on! Leicester are unrecognisable from the club that used to produce quality ?? youngsters, and raiding Newcastle and Leeds, to buying average players from all over the world. They have been in transition for a few years now. Meanwhile, the likes of Exeter have stolen a march on the big boys and are now the top dog in the country, with Sarries in the championship.
It's a shame.
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22/01/2021 16:48:16 2 2
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That's 29 players???
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22/01/2021 16:53:06 0 1
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Think they have it wrong Tom Dunn is in the shadow squad according to the RFU website!
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22/01/2021 16:53:35 3 6
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Willis is the best jackler in the game and Joseph is incredibly versatile, playing on the wing or in the centres. I`d have taken both over (and its a tough call for sure) Wilson and Odogwu - evern though the balance in the centres still looks light
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ben
22/01/2021 17:14:24 2 1
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England don't have a problem with jackaling and Wilson is bang on form and underrated. Also much stronger at 8. Close, but not too controversial really. I'm a big Joseph fan, but I'm glad Odogwu will get a chance rather than seeing JJ on the wing which is not exactly going to evolve England. We know what JJ can do and I'm delighted Jones hasn't just battened down the hatches with old favourites.
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22/01/2021 17:23:10 0 2
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Wilson can cover all back row positions while Odogwu will get snapped up by Italy if England don't give him an opportunity. Centre is where we need someone who can make a difference and though Joseph is good he seems to have lost a little of his bite recently (is that true?) and could move to the main squad if someone is injured.
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22/01/2021 16:48:16 2 2
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That's 29 players???
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22/01/2021 16:53:38 3 1
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Dunn isn't in. Apparently £4 billion per year is not enough to get the BBC to be able to cut and paste.
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22/01/2021 16:50:09 11 16
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Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
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22/01/2021 16:54:37 1 1
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...you mean get a game?
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22/01/2021 16:45:46 2 8
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Randall was always going to struggle to break into the Welsh squad as that is an area of strength in depth. Still a shame to see him deciding to throw his lot in with England. Best of luck to him.
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Dad
22/01/2021 16:55:08 0 1
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Randall is English. Playing and living in England. Why would he go to Wales which is one of the only positions in the Welsh team with any strength in depth?
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22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
51
22/01/2021 17:00:45 29 16
bbc
More of a case of what does he do to displace those that are currently in. Curry, underhill, B Vunipola and Willis are better players for the way england llay
54
22/01/2021 17:03:00 11 1
bbc
I think that's part of the issue. Simmonds has admittedly had a great season but that back row haven't let England down yet. The three encumbants consistently put in MotM performances so I think only a serious injury or major loss of form woul warrant changing my it IMO. At least I think that's probably EJs thinking.
58
22/01/2021 17:03:25 4 1
bbc
100%. Sam Simmonds can't do any more. No Willis though, which is a shame. Simmons, Willis and Curry/Underhill is a frightning prospect for any team. They`re virtually backs!
59
22/01/2021 17:04:15 3 3
bbc
Neither was Alex Goode.
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ben
22/01/2021 17:10:23 1 1
bbc
Old news, sadly - he was never going to be in the squad.
255
22/01/2021 18:32:21 5 10
bbc
Not gloating, but I’d say that Vermeulen, PS Du Toit and Kolisi stuffed Vunipola, Curry and Underhill in the RWC final. England were found wanting and need to improve. Why not give Simmonds a go?
308
22/01/2021 19:27:29 1 2
bbc
EJ makes his own decisions, ask Alex Good about it
436
22/01/2021 21:23:02 1 0
bbc
I still have the scars from playing against Simmons’ dad 30 years ago. He was a brute and if his kids are too small I am very glad I am long retired from playing!
507
22/01/2021 22:57:28 0 1
bbc
Its to get back at bitter Baxter!
828
23/01/2021 16:51:35 0 0
bbc
Willis isn't in the 28
47
22/01/2021 16:58:09 10 4
bbc
It's easier to get an MBE than it is to get even a mention in Eddie's England squad
56
22/01/2021 17:03:07 4 6
bbc
Makes you wonder how he got an MBE.
27
22/01/2021 16:49:23 94 19
bbc
What do Sam and Joe Simmonds have to do to get in to this squad?? Baffled at the same old same old in a number of positions.

Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
48
22/01/2021 16:58:29 44 26
bbc
Unless your Ford or Farrell, you don't stand a chance being selected as 10. It's a clicky squad where the Ford and Farrell essentially coach the backline themselves.
70
22/01/2021 17:09:27 12 4
bbc
Alternative the point is that they've got two set fly halves, who have been shown to play well at international level, and neither are of an age when they'll be retiring soon. So bringing in a third fly half, into a very limited sizes squad would be a bit much.
100
22/01/2021 17:20:41 5 20
bbc
Time and again Farrell has shown that he isn,t a 10, and that if Garland picks him, then it is solely for 12 or to fill up the bench.
154
22/01/2021 17:46:16 2 3
bbc
And what does that tell you? Tells me they are tested world class operators.
179
22/01/2021 17:53:18 3 2
bbc
So true. Chris Ashton confirmed that on podcast about Cipriani leading upto RWC 19
228
22/01/2021 18:17:42 2 6
bbc
On a personal level and from a Scottish 6Ns viewpoint, I'd rather England have Farrell or Ford at 10 than Simmonds and certainly rather Earl, Vunipola or Curry at 8 than Simmonds.
Keep up the good work Steady
557
23/01/2021 00:00:58 0 5
bbc
Farrell is one of the least talented players to ever play for England.
If they produced a highlights reel you would miss it if you blinked.
905
23/01/2021 21:49:14 0 0
bbc
There are some great 10s being overlooked but that's because of having great depth.

How do you justify dropping the 10 in a team that thrashed the All Blacks and has only lost 3 games in the last 3 and a half years (one being a world cup final and the other being a one score game against the All Blacks whilst having a questionably disallowed try).
13
22/01/2021 16:43:47 2 7
bbc
Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
49
22/01/2021 16:59:14 0 1
bbc
Probably true but then again he is young enough still.
50
22/01/2021 17:00:18 0 1
bbc
HR is hardly the style of player to fit in with the way England play at present. Hope his game does not suffer as it did for Shaun Perry
183
22/01/2021 17:54:46 0 1
bbc
He might be an impact layer as Care was - asked to change pace and get the threes into the game more. Perry was years and years ago wasn't he, unless i'm getting confused....
46
22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
51
22/01/2021 17:00:45 29 16
bbc
More of a case of what does he do to displace those that are currently in. Curry, underhill, B Vunipola and Willis are better players for the way england llay
256
22/01/2021 18:33:56 2 3
bbc
How do England play that makes you think that Sam Simmonds who is a better all-around BRF than any of those four cannot operate?.
Simmonds is Europes best BRF for last 3 seaons both stats and all facets of play prove it.
As others have alluded to the four players you mentioned are part of Eddies clique
25
GR
22/01/2021 16:48:37 41 5
bbc
I for one am glad he chose England. He was born in England and both his parents are English. I'm Welsh and raised in England, I would only ever have wanted to play for Wales.
52
22/01/2021 17:01:54 0 3
bbc
He has to look to his future as well. Who will pay his mortgage !?
27
22/01/2021 16:49:23 94 19
bbc
What do Sam and Joe Simmonds have to do to get in to this squad?? Baffled at the same old same old in a number of positions.

Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
53
22/01/2021 17:02:27 19 26
bbc
Can noone see that Sam and Joe Simmonds are not better players than the current players in that position.

Joe is the lesser player of both Ford and Farrell and Sam is not better than Curry, Underhill, Vunipola or Willis
113
22/01/2021 17:24:49 15 8
bbc
You have to question how Earl consistently gets selected ahead of Simmonds in the back row though? I don’t think Simmonds displaces curry/under hill/vunipola in their respective positions but he is probably the best single player to cover all 3 from the bench and give us something different if we need a plan B
239
22/01/2021 18:21:50 4 5
bbc
Do you watch English rugby week in week out?
If you do then maybe you can qualify your statement, if you dont watch club then perhaps you should then you'll understand why so many professionals, pundits and rugby fans think otherwise
564
23/01/2021 00:52:46 3 1
bbc
I really don't think Billy Vunipola is better than Simmonds. He is, however, bigger ... Dombrandt, Mercer, both Curry brothers, both Willis brothers all strike me as better and, significantly, fitter than BV, who is a bit sluggish and predictable. The younger Simmonds is probably a better game manager and all-round 10 than Farrell or Ford.
46
22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
54
22/01/2021 17:03:00 11 1
bbc
I think that's part of the issue. Simmonds has admittedly had a great season but that back row haven't let England down yet. The three encumbants consistently put in MotM performances so I think only a serious injury or major loss of form woul warrant changing my it IMO. At least I think that's probably EJs thinking.
360
22/01/2021 20:20:31 5 2
bbc
I agree Curry and the destructive Underhill are world class. I am no so sure about Billy. Useful ballast for sure. I am no fan of Chiefs, but that Simmonds gives you pace. Billy will never catch a quick winger. Simmonds can.
38
Dad
22/01/2021 16:52:09 6 3
bbc
Redpath is Scottish. End of story. Would expect Jones to have sounded him out but told him he would have to win an England place on merit Caps from Scotland much easier to come by. No blame attached to Jones.
55
22/01/2021 17:03:01 1 1
bbc
Thanks daaaaaaaaaad.

(just had to, sorry!)
47
22/01/2021 16:58:09 10 4
bbc
It's easier to get an MBE than it is to get even a mention in Eddie's England squad
56
22/01/2021 17:03:07 4 6
bbc
Makes you wonder how he got an MBE.
315
22/01/2021 19:34:32 1 2
bbc
Services to comedy interviews and winding up people who always bite
20
22/01/2021 16:46:17 9 28
bbc
Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
57
22/01/2021 17:03:21 4 1
bbc
One for the future??? He's 29 this year!!!
46
22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
58
22/01/2021 17:03:25 4 1
bbc
100%. Sam Simmonds can't do any more. No Willis though, which is a shame. Simmons, Willis and Curry/Underhill is a frightning prospect for any team. They`re virtually backs!
72
22/01/2021 17:09:55 7 1
bbc
Totally agree , good enough to be a world class player in any other team

England have a hell of a back row
Coming from a Scot
728
23/01/2021 13:51:36 0 0
bbc
And you have hit the nail on the head and answered your own question... They’re virtually backs... you need the bulk of BV to add balance!
46
22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
59
22/01/2021 17:04:15 3 3
bbc
Neither was Alex Goode.
36
22/01/2021 16:51:19 30 4
bbc
Splendid selection.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
60
22/01/2021 17:04:32 8 3
bbc
Couldn't agree with you more.
61
22/01/2021 17:04:34 0 1
bbc
Big congratulations to George Martin making it to the shadow squad, huge future ahead of him!
89
22/01/2021 17:17:07 4 1
bbc
I thou ght he did a good job at Abbey Road, myself.
161
22/01/2021 17:48:11 0 1
bbc
Isn’t he the guy who wrote the game of thrones books?
62
22/01/2021 17:05:04 0 1
bbc
can the shadow squad players continue to play for their clubs?
63
22/01/2021 17:05:05 4 7
bbc
Please can we stop asking for Sam and Joe Simmonds to be included. On form and on skill they are not better players than the persons playing in the current team.

And no premiership form does not necessarily translate to internationals. Sam has been in and around the England team before and simply was not good enough
104
22/01/2021 17:22:23 4 2
bbc
I don’t think it is true that he wasn’t good enough and he will get his chance I am sure
152
22/01/2021 17:44:45 0 1
bbc
Mrs Sim mons is furious that you boys keep asking her two little boys to come out to play.
172
22/01/2021 17:51:57 0 1
bbc
I like Sam. He scored two tries against Italy and I think he would be great, but on the flank We do however have lots of good players there.
6
22/01/2021 16:39:22 29 12
bbc
Tough break for Sinckler to be completely omitted but he needs to be made an example of for his actions
64
22/01/2021 17:05:30 12 9
bbc
If you think he'll be sitting out the whole of the 6 Nations then, well...I happen to have just acquired the rights to sell Tower Bridge, and I can let you have it for next to nothing.
93
22/01/2021 17:18:16 2 1
bbc
Cheers boi
167
22/01/2021 17:50:46 1 1
bbc
I'm sure that Jones will want to bring hi straight back, but I'm not sure he can, given the agreement with the clubs, unless one of the other tightheads goes down.
65
22/01/2021 17:05:54 1 8
bbc
Great squad, they’re bound to win the Grand Slam and the next two world cups. Shame that bigbaddog didn’t make the squad I thought he was at least good enough to be a water boy
66
22/01/2021 17:07:21 5 2
bbc
Flanker and outside centre are very strong areas of competition for England. Bad luck to Willis and Joseph, but they are not forgotten. The Simmonds brothers are excellent players but there is simply no room, at the moment. I believe that this is an exciting squad that can play in a number of styles depending upon selections.
432
22/01/2021 21:19:05 0 0
bbc
Shame we don't have any quality inside centres behind Tuilagi. Lawrence has potential but we need a few more coming through. Was hoping Cam Redpath would pick England over Scotland :(
67
22/01/2021 17:07:51 5 8
bbc
classic english side. think theyll struggle this campaign
149
22/01/2021 17:43:15 2 2
bbc
Yes, they do seem a tad ponderous, imo
164
22/01/2021 17:50:03 7 1
bbc
You mean poor in the forwards - Marler, Obano, Stuart, Williams, George, Itoje, Launch and weak in back row. What other countries would pick Underhill Curry and Billy or include pedestrian Ben Earl? Useless backs. No creativity in May. Ford, Watson, Odogwu, Randall. What have guys like Farrell ever achieved? Totally agree with you.
27
22/01/2021 16:49:23 94 19
bbc
What do Sam and Joe Simmonds have to do to get in to this squad?? Baffled at the same old same old in a number of positions.

Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
68
Ali
22/01/2021 17:08:42 13 3
bbc
The reluctance of Jones to select more Exeter players has been baffling for a number of seasons. Still I doubt Rob Baxter will complain ......keeps his players fresh.
69
ben
22/01/2021 17:09:25 7 3
bbc
That's a squad I can feel upbeat about. Far less conservative than I expected given Jones only has space for 28, so the selections of Odogwu and Randall are hugely welcome. Club form actually getting's Jones' attention! Some good players have missed out, including Willis, but Wilson is a better option at 8 and so Willis is just behind Curry, Underhill and Earl. Pretty happy.
48
22/01/2021 16:58:29 44 26
bbc
Unless your Ford or Farrell, you don't stand a chance being selected as 10. It's a clicky squad where the Ford and Farrell essentially coach the backline themselves.
70
22/01/2021 17:09:27 12 4
bbc
Alternative the point is that they've got two set fly halves, who have been shown to play well at international level, and neither are of an age when they'll be retiring soon. So bringing in a third fly half, into a very limited sizes squad would be a bit much.
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cf
22/01/2021 18:36:12 1 2
bbc
But three scrum halves makes sense?
30
22/01/2021 16:50:09 11 16
bbc
Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
71
22/01/2021 17:09:33 3 2
bbc
But not bothered about winning something though eh!
99
22/01/2021 17:20:39 4 3
bbc
Well Scotland has won the Calcutta cup 2 out of the last 3 years!!! However whether you win something or not should not come into your thinking about declaring your nationality. If Redpath has chosen Scotland it is because he wants to emulate his father and play for Scotland.
58
22/01/2021 17:03:25 4 1
bbc
100%. Sam Simmonds can't do any more. No Willis though, which is a shame. Simmons, Willis and Curry/Underhill is a frightning prospect for any team. They`re virtually backs!
72
22/01/2021 17:09:55 7 1
bbc
Totally agree , good enough to be a world class player in any other team

England have a hell of a back row
Coming from a Scot
46
22/01/2021 16:56:00 53 5
bbc
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
73
ben
22/01/2021 17:10:23 1 1
bbc
Old news, sadly - he was never going to be in the squad.
242
22/01/2021 18:22:44 6 1
bbc
I think Eddie sees him as too small to play 8. Exeter pick two huge units on the flanks, England don't.

Personally I think his brother is more of an omission, also surprised Smith didnt make at least the shadow squad.
74
22/01/2021 17:11:04 25 4
bbc
We'd need a squad of twice the size to accommodate all the 'why isn't .... included' complaints.
134
22/01/2021 17:35:49 28 10
bbc
The reality for England is that our player pool is so large that there's always going to be guys who deserve a chance to play international rugby not getting a spot.

If Jones did pick Simmonds over Earl, then fans would still be complaining.

I sometimes wish we weren't such a miserable bunch of fans and actually enjoyed that we have a good team that actually wins!!! Unlike Wales....
576
LH
23/01/2021 01:25:30 0 0
bbc
I suspect that if there were a Six Nations for 'B' (or Ex A) teams, then England would be Grand Slam winners EVERY year!!
75
22/01/2021 17:12:00 7 6
bbc
Excellent looking squad, Randall could well be future for England at 9 and boy we need someone!
Good to see Lawes back in contention as well, assume fit?
144
22/01/2021 17:42:28 1 4
bbc
Then it,s a shame that She edy does not rare Randall even above his old mate Rhodri Wiliams. Who Wales have not selected.
76
22/01/2021 17:12:24 8 4
bbc
I would have Mark Wilson every day over Jack Willis. So called 'jackalling,' has become the measure of a good flanker. Ball carrying and tackling are equally if not more important. So pleased he's rewarded Harry R, but playing Bristol style and England style are two different things. If HR was French or a kiwi the rugby world would be drooling over him. Well done to Odogwu, well deserved.
94
22/01/2021 17:19:07 4 3
bbc
Personally I think it's a toss up between Wilson and Willis. England seem to have an embarrassment of riches of good young back rows. Shame we can't have 2 teams to fit them all in

Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
23
22/01/2021 16:47:17 0 1
bbc
Can I not count or is there not 29 players listed not 28 as stated.
77
22/01/2021 17:12:52 0 1
bbc
Dunn is in twice, but should only be in the shadow squad (according to the RFU website).
33
22/01/2021 16:50:55 3 2
bbc
Tom Dunn is erroneously included in the list
78
22/01/2021 17:12:57 0 1
bbc
Erroneous is a big word for someone who doesn't seem to understand that all positions need to have three options. The locks that can double at blindside, backrowers that can play at two of the positions, two fly halfs one who doubles a t centre, an interchangeable back three. I am worried at tight head and scrum half depth.
79
22/01/2021 17:13:33 5 6
bbc
how many in the english side now born in England btw asking for slient witness
90
22/01/2021 17:17:30 7 3
bbc
Every one except Billy Vunipola who has lived in England since he was 10, and Sam Underhill whose English RAF parents were deployed on a 3 year deployment to USA where they had him and returned to England when he was a toddler.
92
22/01/2021 17:17:58 0 1
bbc
What's a slient witness?
126
22/01/2021 17:33:01 6 2
bbc
Probably a lot more than Welsh born in Wales and definately more than Scottish born in Scotland !
319
22/01/2021 19:40:06 0 1
bbc
Is Slient Witness a remake of Silent Witness, but with really bad subtitles?
39
22/01/2021 16:52:14 86 4
bbc
Pleased for Mark Wilson. Tough area that & he’s a little underrated.
80
Ben
22/01/2021 17:13:41 38 4
bbc
Absolutely - he has never been anything other than excellent for England and Jones clearly likes his work ethic and understated brilliance.
42
22/01/2021 16:53:35 3 6
bbc
Willis is the best jackler in the game and Joseph is incredibly versatile, playing on the wing or in the centres. I`d have taken both over (and its a tough call for sure) Wilson and Odogwu - evern though the balance in the centres still looks light
81
ben
22/01/2021 17:14:24 2 1
bbc
England don't have a problem with jackaling and Wilson is bang on form and underrated. Also much stronger at 8. Close, but not too controversial really. I'm a big Joseph fan, but I'm glad Odogwu will get a chance rather than seeing JJ on the wing which is not exactly going to evolve England. We know what JJ can do and I'm delighted Jones hasn't just battened down the hatches with old favourites.
36
22/01/2021 16:51:19 30 4
bbc
Splendid selection.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
82
ben
22/01/2021 17:15:04 2 1
bbc
Spot on. Is it the first time Jones has made decisions based on club form?!
120
22/01/2021 17:30:03 3 1
bbc
What club form for Farrel, Itoje and the rest of the Saracens players.
83
22/01/2021 17:15:13 0 1
bbc
MORE Rugby?
Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
339
22/01/2021 19:52:28 1 1
bbc
So watch something else then, another of life's problems solved
84
22/01/2021 17:15:14 31 9
bbc
Billy Vunipola over Jack Willis is a travesty to rugby. Having watched Billy struggle to make ground against recent Championship promoted side Ealing, I shudder to think what impact he can make against international sides. With Wilson & Curry able to play 8, I cannot understand this thinking.

Dont even get me started on Sam Simmonds not making the squad...
137
22/01/2021 17:38:24 1 17
bbc
Some forwards do slow up alarmingly as they approach 30. But England have enjoyed a decent contribution from the Welsh Taught Vunapolas
252
22/01/2021 18:31:52 1 1
bbc
Curry has the ability to play 8, and England will benefit from the game time he got there, but they need a specialist 8.

The competition in the back row is crazy - the 5 selected plus Curry mk2, willis, Hill, Ludlam, Dombrandt and Simmonds all playing to a high standard. A few other decent players around as well.
312
22/01/2021 19:31:51 2 2
bbc
Ok, I won't get you started, now, off you pop
418
22/01/2021 20:59:43 0 0
bbc
I'm with you on that one and I'm not English
721
23/01/2021 13:31:12 1 0
bbc
You are not very informed. For starters Willis is a 7 and Vunipola is an 8. ... Vunipola attracts two or three defenders making room elsewhere
11
22/01/2021 16:41:49 45 6
bbc
Good to see Randall's and Odogwu's club performances being recognised, both have been exciting to watch. Though, I query how many game minutes they will actually get, and is the primary driver here due to other nation eligibility (Wales and Italy).
85
22/01/2021 17:15:33 2 46
bbc
MORE Rugby?
Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
202
22/01/2021 18:04:34 6 1
bbc
Don`t read the article then
8ell 3nd. Removed
311
22/01/2021 19:28:47 6 1
bbc
So go and watch another sport then, or don't you know how to work the TV remote?
333
22/01/2021 19:49:48 5 1
bbc
No such thing as too much rugby.

Definitely no such thing as too much international rugby.

And too much 6 Nations? Yeah right...
493
22/01/2021 22:45:11 6 0
bbc
Struggle to believe you are married
86
22/01/2021 17:16:01 5 13
bbc
This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
97
22/01/2021 17:19:35 1 1
bbc
Seriously. Certainly more than capable of giving France a run for their money for Six Nations. Scotland may also surprise.
98
22/01/2021 17:19:40 6 1
bbc
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, says a fan of the team ranked below Scotland and Argentina, and only above Japan because they haven't played them yet.
101
22/01/2021 17:20:58 4 1
bbc
Good enough to carry on beating the Welsh - 2 trophies last year, how’d you get on? ??????
106
22/01/2021 17:22:50 3 3
bbc
Seriously, though, I do think England will beat both England C in Cardiff and England B at Twickenham.
110
22/01/2021 17:23:16 0 2
bbc
Lol. Dream on.
136
22/01/2021 17:38:06 3 1
bbc
Of course they’ve heard of Randall. He’s been all over WOL for months. They’ve gone into mourning now that he won’t be selected for Wales.
138
22/01/2021 17:38:25 1 1
bbc
Most of them were in the World Cup squad and that as you say was clearly a mediocre team and were also the core of the 2020 and Autumn Cup winning squads.. Some pundits would have 11 or 12 of this squad competing for Lions places in SA so yes, pretty poor all round.
185
22/01/2021 17:55:49 2 1
bbc
If you haven't heard of Randall, you're either not following the game closely and are a casual supporter or you're just ignorant. Or possibly a little Welsh troll on a wind up ?
215
22/01/2021 18:10:25 2 1
bbc
wales will have a job avoiding the spoon
15
GR
22/01/2021 16:44:26 5 6
bbc
The 6 nations this season will not hold the same value as its predecessors. Perhaps use it for giving the up and coming players a chance.

I predict the least memorable 6 nations ever.
87
22/01/2021 17:16:20 0 2
bbc
Why shouldn't it ? Unless it gets cancelled there won't be a asterisk next to the name on the cup.
345
22/01/2021 19:57:12 1 1
bbc
Asterisk the Gaul perhaps?
88
22/01/2021 17:16:37 5 8
bbc
I simply don't understand. We are supposed to be in full lockdown again and they are talking about holding the six nations? In just a couple of weeks? Surely the other sports (even 2 indoor bowlers at the world champs have just tested positive - and as for footballers!) are proving that all their apparent precautions do not work! I love rugby but this is stupid.
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22/01/2021 17:04:34 0 1
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Big congratulations to George Martin making it to the shadow squad, huge future ahead of him!
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22/01/2021 17:17:07 4 1
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I thou ght he did a good job at Abbey Road, myself.
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22/01/2021 17:13:33 5 6
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how many in the english side now born in England btw asking for slient witness
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22/01/2021 17:17:30 7 3
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Every one except Billy Vunipola who has lived in England since he was 10, and Sam Underhill whose English RAF parents were deployed on a 3 year deployment to USA where they had him and returned to England when he was a toddler.
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22/01/2021 17:39:52 2 7
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And Billy and Ma co swore at Pontypool that they would aim for Welsh caps., Like cousin ?Toby.
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22/01/2021 19:47:26 1 4
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I think you'll find Randall learned his rugby in the Valleys, and I think that was from when he was 4 until about 15! The formative years Welsh influenced! And that is probably he is the future 9 for England.
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22/01/2021 17:17:54 0 2
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The front five look slightly weaker than last year or at the world cup. It will be interesting to see how the back row and half backs perform if they dont get quite as much front foot ball as they are used to.
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22/01/2021 17:30:14 4 4
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Really? Apart from Mako & Sinckler, with Mako still recovering from injury & Sinckler will be joining once his ban is done, they're exactly the same props, the hookers are identical, and apart from Kruis & Alex Moon the locks are the same as last year's 6N squad. OK Kruis is loss but Moon's absence is hardly going to mean the England pack will be going in reverse from now on.
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22/01/2021 17:13:33 5 6
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how many in the english side now born in England btw asking for slient witness
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22/01/2021 17:17:58 0 1
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What's a slient witness?
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22/01/2021 17:55:30 0 1
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A silent witness who has lost their dictionary.
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22/01/2021 17:05:30 12 9
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If you think he'll be sitting out the whole of the 6 Nations then, well...I happen to have just acquired the rights to sell Tower Bridge, and I can let you have it for next to nothing.
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22/01/2021 17:18:16 2 1
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Cheers boi
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22/01/2021 17:12:24 8 4
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I would have Mark Wilson every day over Jack Willis. So called 'jackalling,' has become the measure of a good flanker. Ball carrying and tackling are equally if not more important. So pleased he's rewarded Harry R, but playing Bristol style and England style are two different things. If HR was French or a kiwi the rugby world would be drooling over him. Well done to Odogwu, well deserved.
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22/01/2021 17:19:07 4 3
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Personally I think it's a toss up between Wilson and Willis. England seem to have an embarrassment of riches of good young back rows. Shame we can't have 2 teams to fit them all in

Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
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22/01/2021 16:51:19 30 4
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Splendid selection.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
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22/01/2021 17:19:21 0 5
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The 6 nations is hardly a place for a run out, friend. Ireland, Wales and France will be looking forward to these guys being sent on the field.
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Dad
23/01/2021 16:51:47 0 0
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Wales? Will be happy with 5th place in 6N table and a narrow win over Italy
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22/01/2021 16:50:56 1 2
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Who would drop out for Spencer to play?
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22/01/2021 17:19:31 13 3
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Ben Youngs would. In my squad and many others anyway! I'm not one of the anti-Youngs brigade at all, but I think Spencer is the best 9 in England by a modest margin. Jones disagrees - and I am at least delighted to see Randall in there 100% on merit.
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22/01/2021 17:35:14 5 4
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I am a big fan of Spencer but I thought the Leicester v Bath game was an example of why Youngs is preferred to Spencer. Spencer scored a lovely try but his kicking was terrible and was ponderous in attack. Youngs meanwhile kicked beautifully and his decision making and game management was on point. Not exciting, but important.
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22/01/2021 17:16:01 5 13
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This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
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22/01/2021 17:19:35 1 1
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Seriously. Certainly more than capable of giving France a run for their money for Six Nations. Scotland may also surprise.
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22/01/2021 17:16:01 5 13
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This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
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22/01/2021 17:19:40 6 1
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Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, says a fan of the team ranked below Scotland and Argentina, and only above Japan because they haven't played them yet.
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22/01/2021 17:32:23 0 2
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No need to pick on a Scot in such a deprecating way. Shame on you, Boris.
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22/01/2021 17:09:33 3 2
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But not bothered about winning something though eh!
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22/01/2021 17:20:39 4 3
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Well Scotland has won the Calcutta cup 2 out of the last 3 years!!! However whether you win something or not should not come into your thinking about declaring your nationality. If Redpath has chosen Scotland it is because he wants to emulate his father and play for Scotland.
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22/01/2021 17:33:25 10 8
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The Calcutta Cup!?!? Hahahaha. That’s not silverware. We’re talking proper honours. 6 Nations, Grand Slams... he chose Scotland because he knows they hand out caps to anyone with a pulse as long as they are eligible. Scotland are a laughing stock in all sports.
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22/01/2021 20:31:00 3 1
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Ha ha ha ha, you're counting the draw in 2019 as a win. Sure whatever you say son. ??????
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22/01/2021 16:58:29 44 26
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Unless your Ford or Farrell, you don't stand a chance being selected as 10. It's a clicky squad where the Ford and Farrell essentially coach the backline themselves.
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22/01/2021 17:20:41 5 20
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Time and again Farrell has shown that he isn,t a 10, and that if Garland picks him, then it is solely for 12 or to fill up the bench.
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22/01/2021 17:27:16 4 3
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Apart from when Garland picked him at 10 for the first AB test you were almost right
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22/01/2021 17:31:12 10 1
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I mean he did pick Farrell for all three Tests against NZ. One of which was starting at 10.

As much as I would like to see both the Simmonds play at international level, it's not like the alternatives aren't any good. I mean these guys did win two international competitions in 2020.