Odogwu and Randall called up by England
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In-form uncapped duo Paolo Odogwu and Harry Randall are named in England's squad for the forthcoming Six Nations.
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Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
Sad to see Willis not being recognised in this squad, probably wouldn't have had too many game minutes in any case, so happy to see him keep playing for Wasps.
He's there or there abouts still ticking over nicely. Very competitive back row. Odogwu has been a revelation but struggles when teams go aerial. I've been most surprised by his defence. As a wasps fan I knew he had potential but give him a bit of confidence and the ball and he makes yards. Annoyed about Robson who has been playing well.
Joseph is over the top not doing it for his club,Willis should be in but who do you drop.
More building for the future
Great opportunity for Obano - he's got a future. Hopefully he'll get more than a trip to Pennyhill Park and a long drive back down the M4 without muddying his boots.
England - purveyors of Yawn Rugby.
The English can't dance with any rhythm, or even sing in tune. Though would have to admit, the quality has improved with the increasing numbers of Pacific Islanders in the team.
The English can't dance with any rhythm, or even sing in tune. Though would have to admit, the quality has improved with the increasing numbers of Pacific Islanders in the team.
3 exciting players to watch, would be great to see them make the match day squad.
Tough break for Sinckler to be completely omitted but he needs to be made an example of for his actions
If you think he'll be sitting out the whole of the 6 Nations then, well...I happen to have just acquired the rights to sell Tower Bridge, and I can let you have it for next to nothing.
Liam Williams got away lightly having indulged in yet another dangerous tackle and gobbling off at the referee. Sinckler just gobbed off under provocation
Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
So have the Saracens players
Randall has opted for England, pity from a Welsh perspective and definately one to watch for the future.
I for one am glad he chose England. He was born in England and both his parents are English. I'm Welsh and raised in England, I would only ever have wanted to play for Wales.
I take it you are being humorous with this wind up
Hopefully he'll be allowed to play and not forced into the dull tactical blackboard procedure-based game that Jones loves so much.
Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
Who would drop out for Spencer to play?
Huge fan of Spencer and would always have him ahead of Robson but Randall is the future.
Good to see Randall's and Odogwu's club performances being recognised, both have been exciting to watch. Though, I query how many game minutes they will actually get, and is the primary driver here due to other nation eligibility (Wales and Italy).
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Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
Wales should have gone for Pat Lam, so they could have got Randall and Sheedy for the future. Too late now.
Wales couldn't afford the compensation or salary Lam would command, stop dreaming
Er... This is yet another of your posts that make no sense whatsoevrr.
Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
Won 3 six nations; beat Australia 3-0 in Oz; spanked the ABs in a RWC SF; beat every team in the top 10; but, yes, you know best.
Pleased to see Randall and Odogwu there, but very surprised Joseph and Willis have been dropped.
He’s unfortunate to be in an immensely competitive position across the back row, and I think on current form Ben Earl is a more deserving selection.
It’s undoubtedly a selection of riches that Eddie Jones can pick from and afford to leave Willis, Sam Simmonds et al out (and that’s before Dombrandt, Ben Curry and others are even mentioned)
It’s undoubtedly a selection of riches that Eddie Jones can pick from and afford to leave Willis, Sam Simmonds et al out (and that’s before Dombrandt, Ben Curry and others are even mentioned)
The 6 nations this season will not hold the same value as its predecessors. Perhaps use it for giving the up and coming players a chance.
I predict the least memorable 6 nations ever.
I predict the least memorable 6 nations ever.
Why shouldn't it ? Unless it gets cancelled there won't be a asterisk next to the name on the cup.
It is much more likely to be a 4 nations, as France and Italy are unlikely to travel from their own shores.
Randall was always going to struggle to break into the Welsh squad as that is an area of strength in depth. Still a shame to see him deciding to throw his lot in with England. Best of luck to him.
I guess he didn’t fancy finishing 5th in his first ever 6N.
Randall is English. Playing and living in England. Why would he go to Wales which is one of the only positions in the Welsh team with any strength in depth?
Strength in depth? Really? A number of average scrum halfs I'd say
The truth is, no one in Wales has ever heard of Randall. When you have the trio Pivac has selected at 9 even Youngs would never feature. Fact.
Yes, you would think he would search out some Scottish or Irish forebears so he could play alongside decent attacking players.
Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
Redpath is Scottish. End of story. Would expect Jones to have sounded him out but told him he would have to win an England place on merit Caps from Scotland much easier to come by. No blame attached to Jones.
Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
He's 28 and spent most of his career at Sarries playing with England and Lions players
What a silly comment about old boys system and perhaps you failed to notice the Bath players selected in both squads - on merit!
Nice balance in the squad, lets hope for more entertaining rugby than in the Autumn
Bring on some six nations rugby - yes it would be better with a crowd but something is better than nothing and I'm sure the game needs the influx of TV money.
Just hope all the games get completed as Covid cancellations devalue the competition
Just hope all the games get completed as Covid cancellations devalue the competition
Can I not count or is there not 29 players listed not 28 as stated.
Dunn is in twice, but should only be in the shadow squad (according to the RFU website).
Eddie Jones was never any good at maths and hum ility. Apparently, France 2 in his eyes were stronger than France 1
Think they have it wrong Tom Dunn is in the shadow squad according to the RFU website!
Randall has opted for England, pity from a Welsh perspective and definately one to watch for the future.
Looks like a pretty well balanced squad, from what I have seen of Randall. Odogwu and Obano they look to have good futures ahead of them.
Im worried about Randall. He has a very dynamic, forward thinking running game. Eddie is more a no.9 kicking from the base fan so will be interesting to see if the good stuff is coached out of him. He's some prospect though and improving all the time including his game management.
What do Sam and Joe Simmonds have to do to get in to this squad?? Baffled at the same old same old in a number of positions.
Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
Great to see Randall and Odogwu though!
Unless your Ford or Farrell, you don't stand a chance being selected as 10. It's a clicky squad where the Ford and Farrell essentially coach the backline themselves.
Can noone see that Sam and Joe Simmonds are not better players than the current players in that position.
Joe is the lesser player of both Ford and Farrell and Sam is not better than Curry, Underhill, Vunipola or Willis
Joe is the lesser player of both Ford and Farrell and Sam is not better than Curry, Underhill, Vunipola or Willis
The reluctance of Jones to select more Exeter players has been baffling for a number of seasons. Still I doubt Rob Baxter will complain ......keeps his players fresh.
Would be interested to know who you think they would replace? Ford and Farrell aren't going anywhere and the only like for like replacement in the back row is Ben Earl and Sam S is not at his level.
What does Joe Simmonds really offer. ? Not a patch on Ford - or even Farrel !
Sam’s been around England squads in the past and got his caps - I imagine Eddie’s had a good look at him and decided to look elsewhere.
Joe, on the other hand, is in my view (Quins fan) the best player in the Premiership at the moment. I would have him in every squad if only to keep George and Owen on their toes.
Joe, on the other hand, is in my view (Quins fan) the best player in the Premiership at the moment. I would have him in every squad if only to keep George and Owen on their toes.
Just hope EJ caps them and doesn’t lose them to other countries,we seem to have lost a few under EJ,I know the next game is the main thing but planning for the future is necessary.
Get better obviously. They aren't picked because they aren't as good. End of. Now dry your eyes
Answer: The Simmonds brothers could be the best players in the world and Jones still wouldn't pick them, as revenge for bitter Baxter's vendetta against Sarries (Jones clearly has a loyalty to Sarries). If they'd played for a different club other than Chiefs, then they would be in the squad no problem.
There are better players ahead of them. It may seem tough; but that is life.
England has deep resources at the moment and, yet, a few years ago they had absolutely no depth in the backrow... now look at England's options there.
England has deep resources at the moment and, yet, a few years ago they had absolutely no depth in the backrow... now look at England's options there.
The first ever 6 nations was over a century ago, drip!
Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
Erroneous is a big word for someone who doesn't seem to understand that all positions need to have three options. The locks that can double at blindside, backrowers that can play at two of the positions, two fly halfs one who doubles a t centre, an interchangeable back three. I am worried at tight head and scrum half depth.
Don't know what Ben Spencer needs to do to get a call up!
Ben Youngs would. In my squad and many others anyway! I'm not one of the anti-Youngs brigade at all, but I think Spencer is the best 9 in England by a modest margin. Jones disagrees - and I am at least delighted to see Randall in there 100% on merit.
Youngs...is he still going to be there for England at RWC 2023 in France? I think he's been an excellent servant for us over the years, but I think now is the time for him to bow out and to start building the side for 2023, although there is a strong argument to say the Autumn Internationals might be a better option.
Ben youngs
Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
Splendid selection.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
On Prem performances, Wilson, Randall and Odogwu deserve a run out.
Couldn't agree with you more.
Spot on. Is it the first time Jones has made decisions based on club form?!
The 6 nations is hardly a place for a run out, friend. Ireland, Wales and France will be looking forward to these guys being sent on the field.
Redpath should be in this squad. Eddie's really dropped the ball on this
Pleased for Mark Wilson. Tough area that & he’s a little underrated.
Absolutely - he has never been anything other than excellent for England and Jones clearly likes his work ethic and understated brilliance.
Spot on. He's been a little under the radar but his work rate is phenomenal. I think what separates the likes of him and Earl from Willis and Simmonds is consistent 80 minute performances. Thet never do missing for parts of the game.
There wasn't much chance of him not being considered. His performances have done much to keep Newcastle up there. He seems to fit with Jones mindset, one of the few of late I agree with. Although Randall has certainly attracted the eye. Still a long way to go.
I think Billy V is over rated and picked because he's an EJ favourite.A couple of seasons ago when BV was injured,Mark Wilson put in some MoM performances at 8 during the Autumn Internationals.Delighted that his form at Newcastle has been rewarded.
Be quite honest if Wilson played for a fashionable club his name would always be on the match day team sheet.A lot of Bath players in who don’t deserve it.Watson is doing nothing and Obano and Stuart are penalties waiting to happen.Feel sorry for Willis he is still the best in the Prem and wins games.
Gutted he'll miss 7/8 games for Falcons but delighted he'll be going against the Scots (& Gary Graham)!
Wilson is a good player but not next WC material. Where is Dombrant ?
Spot on - he’s been ripping in to it for Falcons and looks stronger than ever.
Congratulations Paolo Odogwu. Yet another Leicester Academy player doing well for other clubs. This is the reason Tigers went from a top club to a laughing stock, not giving their own products opportunities in order to bring in imports that were happy to come for a pension top up!!
What’s Thorley done wrong I ask?
Spot on! Leicester are unrecognisable from the club that used to produce quality ?? youngsters, and raiding Newcastle and Leeds, to buying average players from all over the world. They have been in transition for a few years now. Meanwhile, the likes of Exeter have stolen a march on the big boys and are now the top dog in the country, with Sarries in the championship.
It's a shame.
It's a shame.
Willis is the best jackler in the game and Joseph is incredibly versatile, playing on the wing or in the centres. I`d have taken both over (and its a tough call for sure) Wilson and Odogwu - evern though the balance in the centres still looks light
England don't have a problem with jackaling and Wilson is bang on form and underrated. Also much stronger at 8. Close, but not too controversial really. I'm a big Joseph fan, but I'm glad Odogwu will get a chance rather than seeing JJ on the wing which is not exactly going to evolve England. We know what JJ can do and I'm delighted Jones hasn't just battened down the hatches with old favourites.
Wilson can cover all back row positions while Odogwu will get snapped up by Italy if England don't give him an opportunity. Centre is where we need someone who can make a difference and though Joseph is good he seems to have lost a little of his bite recently (is that true?) and could move to the main squad if someone is injured.
Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
No Sam Simmonds
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
European player of the year not even in Squad
What he has done to get in Eddie’s bad books
Willis underhill curry still quality back row
More of a case of what does he do to displace those that are currently in. Curry, underhill, B Vunipola and Willis are better players for the way england llay
I think that's part of the issue. Simmonds has admittedly had a great season but that back row haven't let England down yet. The three encumbants consistently put in MotM performances so I think only a serious injury or major loss of form woul warrant changing my it IMO. At least I think that's probably EJs thinking.
100%. Sam Simmonds can't do any more. No Willis though, which is a shame. Simmons, Willis and Curry/Underhill is a frightning prospect for any team. They`re virtually backs!
Neither was Alex Goode.
Not gloating, but I’d say that Vermeulen, PS Du Toit and Kolisi stuffed Vunipola, Curry and Underhill in the RWC final. England were found wanting and need to improve. Why not give Simmonds a go?
EJ makes his own decisions, ask Alex Good about it
I still have the scars from playing against Simmons’ dad 30 years ago. He was a brute and if his kids are too small I am very glad I am long retired from playing!
Its to get back at bitter Baxter!
It's easier to get an MBE than it is to get even a mention in Eddie's England squad
Makes you wonder how he got an MBE.
Alternative the point is that they've got two set fly halves, who have been shown to play well at international level, and neither are of an age when they'll be retiring soon. So bringing in a third fly half, into a very limited sizes squad would be a bit much.
Time and again Farrell has shown that he isn,t a 10, and that if Garland picks him, then it is solely for 12 or to fill up the bench.
And what does that tell you? Tells me they are tested world class operators.
So true. Chris Ashton confirmed that on podcast about Cipriani leading upto RWC 19
On a personal level and from a Scottish 6Ns viewpoint, I'd rather England have Farrell or Ford at 10 than Simmonds and certainly rather Earl, Vunipola or Curry at 8 than Simmonds.
Keep up the good work Steady
Keep up the good work Steady
Farrell is one of the least talented players to ever play for England.
If they produced a highlights reel you would miss it if you blinked.
If they produced a highlights reel you would miss it if you blinked.
There are some great 10s being overlooked but that's because of having great depth.
How do you justify dropping the 10 in a team that thrashed the All Blacks and has only lost 3 games in the last 3 and a half years (one being a world cup final and the other being a one score game against the All Blacks whilst having a questionably disallowed try).
How do you justify dropping the 10 in a team that thrashed the All Blacks and has only lost 3 games in the last 3 and a half years (one being a world cup final and the other being a one score game against the All Blacks whilst having a questionably disallowed try).
Yeh! Good Eddie, pick another couple of uncapped players to use once then drop them!
HR is hardly the style of player to fit in with the way England play at present. Hope his game does not suffer as it did for Shaun Perry
How do England play that makes you think that Sam Simmonds who is a better all-around BRF than any of those four cannot operate?.
Simmonds is Europes best BRF for last 3 seaons both stats and all facets of play prove it.
As others have alluded to the four players you mentioned are part of Eddies clique
Simmonds is Europes best BRF for last 3 seaons both stats and all facets of play prove it.
As others have alluded to the four players you mentioned are part of Eddies clique
You have to question how Earl consistently gets selected ahead of Simmonds in the back row though? I don’t think Simmonds displaces curry/under hill/vunipola in their respective positions but he is probably the best single player to cover all 3 from the bench and give us something different if we need a plan B
Do you watch English rugby week in week out?
If you do then maybe you can qualify your statement, if you dont watch club then perhaps you should then you'll understand why so many professionals, pundits and rugby fans think otherwise
If you do then maybe you can qualify your statement, if you dont watch club then perhaps you should then you'll understand why so many professionals, pundits and rugby fans think otherwise
I really don't think Billy Vunipola is better than Simmonds. He is, however, bigger ... Dombrandt, Mercer, both Curry brothers, both Willis brothers all strike me as better and, significantly, fitter than BV, who is a bit sluggish and predictable. The younger Simmonds is probably a better game manager and all-round 10 than Farrell or Ford.
I think that's part of the issue. Simmonds has admittedly had a great season but that back row haven't let England down yet. The three encumbants consistently put in MotM performances so I think only a serious injury or major loss of form woul warrant changing my it IMO. At least I think that's probably EJs thinking.
I agree Curry and the destructive Underhill are world class. I am no so sure about Billy. Useful ballast for sure. I am no fan of Chiefs, but that Simmonds gives you pace. Billy will never catch a quick winger. Simmonds can.
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Be better than the alternatives. He's one for the future, great talent no doubt and I hope he develops into an England regular. But just because he's @bath doesn't mean automatic selection anymore -the old school / boys system is gone
Totally agree , good enough to be a world class player in any other team
England have a hell of a back row
Coming from a Scot
England have a hell of a back row
Coming from a Scot
Big congratulations to George Martin making it to the shadow squad, huge future ahead of him!
I thou ght he did a good job at Abbey Road, myself.
Isn’t he the guy who wrote the game of thrones books?
can the shadow squad players continue to play for their clubs?
Please can we stop asking for Sam and Joe Simmonds to be included. On form and on skill they are not better players than the persons playing in the current team.
And no premiership form does not necessarily translate to internationals. Sam has been in and around the England team before and simply was not good enough
And no premiership form does not necessarily translate to internationals. Sam has been in and around the England team before and simply was not good enough
I don’t think it is true that he wasn’t good enough and he will get his chance I am sure
Mrs Sim mons is furious that you boys keep asking her two little boys to come out to play.
Tough break for Sinckler to be completely omitted but he needs to be made an example of for his actions
Flanker and outside centre are very strong areas of competition for England. Bad luck to Willis and Joseph, but they are not forgotten. The Simmonds brothers are excellent players but there is simply no room, at the moment. I believe that this is an exciting squad that can play in a number of styles depending upon selections.
Shame we don't have any quality inside centres behind Tuilagi. Lawrence has potential but we need a few more coming through. Was hoping Cam Redpath would pick England over Scotland :(
classic english side. think theyll struggle this campaign
Yes, they do seem a tad ponderous, imo
You mean poor in the forwards - Marler, Obano, Stuart, Williams, George, Itoje, Launch and weak in back row. What other countries would pick Underhill Curry and Billy or include pedestrian Ben Earl? Useless backs. No creativity in May. Ford, Watson, Odogwu, Randall. What have guys like Farrell ever achieved? Totally agree with you.
That's a squad I can feel upbeat about. Far less conservative than I expected given Jones only has space for 28, so the selections of Odogwu and Randall are hugely welcome. Club form actually getting's Jones' attention! Some good players have missed out, including Willis, but Wilson is a better option at 8 and so Willis is just behind Curry, Underhill and Earl. Pretty happy.
Redpath obviously wanted to play in a more exciting national team ??
Well Scotland has won the Calcutta cup 2 out of the last 3 years!!! However whether you win something or not should not come into your thinking about declaring your nationality. If Redpath has chosen Scotland it is because he wants to emulate his father and play for Scotland.
100%. Sam Simmonds can't do any more. No Willis though, which is a shame. Simmons, Willis and Curry/Underhill is a frightning prospect for any team. They`re virtually backs!
I think Eddie sees him as too small to play 8. Exeter pick two huge units on the flanks, England don't.
Personally I think his brother is more of an omission, also surprised Smith didnt make at least the shadow squad.
Personally I think his brother is more of an omission, also surprised Smith didnt make at least the shadow squad.
We'd need a squad of twice the size to accommodate all the 'why isn't .... included' complaints.
The reality for England is that our player pool is so large that there's always going to be guys who deserve a chance to play international rugby not getting a spot.
If Jones did pick Simmonds over Earl, then fans would still be complaining.
I sometimes wish we weren't such a miserable bunch of fans and actually enjoyed that we have a good team that actually wins!!! Unlike Wales....
If Jones did pick Simmonds over Earl, then fans would still be complaining.
I sometimes wish we weren't such a miserable bunch of fans and actually enjoyed that we have a good team that actually wins!!! Unlike Wales....
Excellent looking squad, Randall could well be future for England at 9 and boy we need someone!
Good to see Lawes back in contention as well, assume fit?
Good to see Lawes back in contention as well, assume fit?
Then it,s a shame that She edy does not rare Randall even above his old mate Rhodri Wiliams. Who Wales have not selected.
I would have Mark Wilson every day over Jack Willis. So called 'jackalling,' has become the measure of a good flanker. Ball carrying and tackling are equally if not more important. So pleased he's rewarded Harry R, but playing Bristol style and England style are two different things. If HR was French or a kiwi the rugby world would be drooling over him. Well done to Odogwu, well deserved.
Personally I think it's a toss up between Wilson and Willis. England seem to have an embarrassment of riches of good young back rows. Shame we can't have 2 teams to fit them all in
Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
Erroneous is a big word for someone who doesn't seem to understand that all positions need to have three options. The locks that can double at blindside, backrowers that can play at two of the positions, two fly halfs one who doubles a t centre, an interchangeable back three. I am worried at tight head and scrum half depth.
how many in the english side now born in England btw asking for slient witness
Every one except Billy Vunipola who has lived in England since he was 10, and Sam Underhill whose English RAF parents were deployed on a 3 year deployment to USA where they had him and returned to England when he was a toddler.
What's a slient witness?
Probably a lot more than Welsh born in Wales and definately more than Scottish born in Scotland !
Is Slient Witness a remake of Silent Witness, but with really bad subtitles?
Pleased for Mark Wilson. Tough area that & he’s a little underrated.
Willis is the best jackler in the game and Joseph is incredibly versatile, playing on the wing or in the centres. I`d have taken both over (and its a tough call for sure) Wilson and Odogwu - evern though the balance in the centres still looks light
England don't have a problem with jackaling and Wilson is bang on form and underrated. Also much stronger at 8. Close, but not too controversial really. I'm a big Joseph fan, but I'm glad Odogwu will get a chance rather than seeing JJ on the wing which is not exactly going to evolve England. We know what JJ can do and I'm delighted Jones hasn't just battened down the hatches with old favourites.
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Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
Kinelle......I'm all rugby'd out I'm afraid, starting to agree with the wife!.
Players are probably fatigued too, crikey, turn it in!
So watch something else then, another of life's problems solved
Billy Vunipola over Jack Willis is a travesty to rugby. Having watched Billy struggle to make ground against recent Championship promoted side Ealing, I shudder to think what impact he can make against international sides. With Wilson & Curry able to play 8, I cannot understand this thinking.
Dont even get me started on Sam Simmonds not making the squad...
Dont even get me started on Sam Simmonds not making the squad...
Some forwards do slow up alarmingly as they approach 30. But England have enjoyed a decent contribution from the Welsh Taught Vunapolas
Curry has the ability to play 8, and England will benefit from the game time he got there, but they need a specialist 8.
The competition in the back row is crazy - the 5 selected plus Curry mk2, willis, Hill, Ludlam, Dombrandt and Simmonds all playing to a high standard. A few other decent players around as well.
The competition in the back row is crazy - the 5 selected plus Curry mk2, willis, Hill, Ludlam, Dombrandt and Simmonds all playing to a high standard. A few other decent players around as well.
Ok, I won't get you started, now, off you pop
Good to see Randall's and Odogwu's club performances being recognised, both have been exciting to watch. Though, I query how many game minutes they will actually get, and is the primary driver here due to other nation eligibility (Wales and Italy).
Don`t read the article then
8ell 3nd.
Removed
So go and watch another sport then, or don't you know how to work the TV remote?
No such thing as too much rugby.
Definitely no such thing as too much international rugby.
And too much 6 Nations? Yeah right...
Definitely no such thing as too much international rugby.
And too much 6 Nations? Yeah right...
This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
Seriously. Certainly more than capable of giving France a run for their money for Six Nations. Scotland may also surprise.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, says a fan of the team ranked below Scotland and Argentina, and only above Japan because they haven't played them yet.
Good enough to carry on beating the Welsh - 2 trophies last year, how’d you get on? ??????
Seriously, though, I do think England will beat both England C in Cardiff and England B at Twickenham.
Of course they’ve heard of Randall. He’s been all over WOL for months. They’ve gone into mourning now that he won’t be selected for Wales.
Most of them were in the World Cup squad and that as you say was clearly a mediocre team and were also the core of the 2020 and Autumn Cup winning squads.. Some pundits would have 11 or 12 of this squad competing for Lions places in SA so yes, pretty poor all round.
If you haven't heard of Randall, you're either not following the game closely and are a casual supporter or you're just ignorant. Or possibly a little Welsh troll on a wind up ?
Asterisk the Gaul perhaps?
I simply don't understand. We are supposed to be in full lockdown again and they are talking about holding the six nations? In just a couple of weeks? Surely the other sports (even 2 indoor bowlers at the world champs have just tested positive - and as for footballers!) are proving that all their apparent precautions do not work! I love rugby but this is stupid.
And Billy and Ma co swore at Pontypool that they would aim for Welsh caps., Like cousin ?Toby.
I think you'll find Randall learned his rugby in the Valleys, and I think that was from when he was 4 until about 15! The formative years Welsh influenced! And that is probably he is the future 9 for England.
The front five look slightly weaker than last year or at the world cup. It will be interesting to see how the back row and half backs perform if they dont get quite as much front foot ball as they are used to.
Really? Apart from Mako & Sinckler, with Mako still recovering from injury & Sinckler will be joining once his ban is done, they're exactly the same props, the hookers are identical, and apart from Kruis & Alex Moon the locks are the same as last year's 6N squad. OK Kruis is loss but Moon's absence is hardly going to mean the England pack will be going in reverse from now on.
A silent witness who has lost their dictionary.
If you think he'll be sitting out the whole of the 6 Nations then, well...I happen to have just acquired the rights to sell Tower Bridge, and I can let you have it for next to nothing.
I would have Mark Wilson every day over Jack Willis. So called 'jackalling,' has become the measure of a good flanker. Ball carrying and tackling are equally if not more important. So pleased he's rewarded Harry R, but playing Bristol style and England style are two different things. If HR was French or a kiwi the rugby world would be drooling over him. Well done to Odogwu, well deserved.
Personally I think it's a toss up between Wilson and Willis. England seem to have an embarrassment of riches of good young back rows. Shame we can't have 2 teams to fit them all in
Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
Harry R has picked a great time to break through. I seriously suspect that Youngs will be retiring after the Lions tour (on the presumption he goes) and, if we have any summer tours, Randall is nailed on for the summer
Who would drop out for Spencer to play?
I am a big fan of Spencer but I thought the Leicester v Bath game was an example of why Youngs is preferred to Spencer. Spencer scored a lovely try but his kicking was terrible and was ponderous in attack. Youngs meanwhile kicked beautifully and his decision making and game management was on point. Not exciting, but important.
This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
This seems a very mediocre squad of players, I feel, who will probably need a lot of luck to win more games than they lose. Wales and Ireland certainly won,t be losing any sleep over it, but if Eddie is going to be .happy with middle table, then I guess these guys might do it for him. Nobody in Wales has ever heard of Randall, by the way, let alone might be disappointed by his inclusion here.
No need to pick on a Scot in such a deprecating way. Shame on you, Boris.
But not bothered about winning something though eh!
The Calcutta Cup!?!? Hahahaha. That’s not silverware. We’re talking proper honours. 6 Nations, Grand Slams... he chose Scotland because he knows they hand out caps to anyone with a pulse as long as they are eligible. Scotland are a laughing stock in all sports.
Apart from when Garland picked him at 10 for the first AB test you were almost right
I mean he did pick Farrell for all three Tests against NZ. One of which was starting at 10.
As much as I would like to see both the Simmonds play at international level, it's not like the alternatives aren't any good. I mean these guys did win two international competitions in 2020.
As much as I would like to see both the Simmonds play at international level, it's not like the alternatives aren't any good. I mean these guys did win two international competitions in 2020.