UK Covid deaths: Why the 100,000 toll is so bad
26/01/2021 | news | health | 7,254
As the number of people who died reaches six figures, the factors that led to this terrible total.
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The government failed on so many issues. Not quarantining incoming travellers, not banning incoming travellers from hotspots, the woeful trace programme, not implementing a lockdown sooner.

It's easy to say these things with hindsight, but why did all of these take so long when it was obvious other countries were doing it and it was working? Madness.
You forgot to mention Anti lockdown protest, Uni students partying and some refuse to wear mask. Some will still say 100000 is not true. Removed
Some will still say 100000 is not true.

It's not true as many peole have died from covid more than 28 after being infected. Gov sneakily is pushing the 28 day figure. A better figure is deaths from covid after 60 days which addds another 3.5k+
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You didn't mention 20 million of people going to work every day...
But protest and partying cause all of the deaths... You are a ??
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26/01/2021 17:52:52 29 4
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Those factors are still within the power of government to address. They have tried to be light touch where enforcement is concerned, partly because the rules are often unclear (e.g. what counts as local area).
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26/01/2021 17:55:12 21 12
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No right to protest- come on. This is a democracy!

I think.
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26/01/2021 17:55:38 15 43
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100,000 is not true .You can test positive, recover , then die in an accident and it is still classed as a covid death .I haven't made this up.
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26/01/2021 17:39:28 16 18
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Why is the truth not being told? Why are Doctors, when certifying the cause of death, having to include the word 'coronavirus' on the death certificate when they and the relatives are well aware that the cause of death was not coronavirus?
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You forgot to mention Anti lockdown protest, Uni students partying and some refuse to wear mask. Some will still say 100000 is not true. Removed
Some will still say 100000 is not true.

It's not true as many peole have died from covid more than 28 after being infected. Gov sneakily is pushing the 28 day figure. A better figure is deaths from covid after 60 days which addds another 3.5k+
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26/01/2021 18:16:18 2 4
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But then you'll have to remove all the ones that had a positive test but died of something else unrelated. I'll round that to 3.5k+
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26/01/2021 18:31:24 2 0
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We are using the same definition of deaths as other countries. Why would we inflate our figures by adopting your suggested measure when no-one else is?
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26/01/2021 17:46:00 255 206
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Legal shot contributed by coming home. If the borders has been closed you would have been unable to.think before you comment.
Don't talk crap. If you had a brain scan they'd find nothing. Removed
You forgot to mention Anti lockdown protest, Uni students partying and some refuse to wear mask. Some will still say 100000 is not true. Removed
You didn't mention 20 million of people going to work every day...
But protest and partying cause all of the deaths... You are a ??
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We all got to go sometime! Removed
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26/01/2021 17:41:22 404 280
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NHS underfunding? No amount of money is ever enough for the NHS. If we gave them 10 trillion pounds a week, they'd still come back asking for more.
Why not read an independent, international study on health systems' performance, and value for money, instead of being an ideological, whiny gi.mp? Removed
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The government failed on so many issues. Not quarantining incoming travellers, not banning incoming travellers from hotspots, the woeful trace programme, not implementing a lockdown sooner.

It's easy to say these things with hindsight, but why did all of these take so long when it was obvious other countries were doing it and it was working? Madness.
No not really Covid primary cause of death likely to be 10 to 15,000. Similar to the flu.
The stupid measures imposed we should be protesting about
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26/01/2021 17:57:03 20 7
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Wrong
Already seen at least 90% of all death certs state primary cause COVID
Still good to see an ostrich take their head out of the sand for a little while
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26/01/2021 17:59:31 16 2
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Wow someone give joe a job with public health england. He clearly has some crucial information, education and experience they have missed all this time
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26/01/2021 18:15:10 5 1
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And you base this miraculous conclusion on?
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26/01/2021 18:16:22 3 12
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Agreed. Misattribution of a lot of deaths. Covid miraculously cures dementia, pneumonia, old age, but then kills you anyway! Most cases in hospitals and care homes, so how well do masks etc work there?
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26/01/2021 18:22:22 16 1
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Have you not seen the footage from hospital ICUs? You’re either a state sponsored troll or a particularly dim tin foil hatter.
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Fool
It is idiots like you spreading lies and misinformation that we should be protesting about. Removed
26/01/2021 18:42:35 3 0
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The excess deaths for 2020 over the average number of deaths in a year for the years 2008 - 2018 results in just under 80,000 deaths. This isn't Flu and your numbers were plucked out of thin air.
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26/01/2021 18:43:53 1 0
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Flu deaths are way DOWN, this year!!!
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26/01/2021 17:41:22 404 280
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NHS underfunding? No amount of money is ever enough for the NHS. If we gave them 10 trillion pounds a week, they'd still come back asking for more.
The NHS is not underfunded... you can always spend more, but on diminishing returns. Perhaps monies could usefully be redirected from nonsense like the Tavistock Clinic! Removed
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26/01/2021 18:40:16 13 1
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1969, 400,000 beds in NHS..uk population 50 million
2020 180,000 beds in nhs.. uk population 70million

Can you work it out yet ???
26/01/2021 20:13:29 3 1
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Ridiculous! Of course its underfunded... even Boris admitted that in 2019
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26/01/2021 17:44:25 4 4
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A shocking total, badly handled to much thought on staying popular, lobbyists and focus groups, chumocracy and on and on.Politicians of all persuasions lacking a backbone. But not just politicians how many headlines telling us it’s just the flu and they are taking away our rights. Fools who doubted the science. The population as a whole being overweight and unhealthy. We can learn but will we?
The amount of deaths IS shocking but there was a lot of answers as to WHY in the article which once again begs the question" HOW many have actually died solely because of covid?" it does not help your survival IF you are obese,diabetic et al,this is something we can ALL do something about.FFS people TRY to live a bit healthier! its YOUR life on the line.Fact, covid WILL accelerate your demise! Removed
Typical moaning numb skulls, moan if they are locked down, moan lock down was too late, come on morons, this is spread by the uncontrollable, the party goers, the students wanting the uni experience, getting drunk the first few weeks then fail first year, have to resit and then moan about the fees. Removed
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26/01/2021 17:43:32 755 241
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Locked down too late in March, Christmas farce, lockdown too late in December. Eat out to help out, more mixed messages with Stanley J, Gove, Cummings and others flaunting Covid law/guidelines. Schools and universities going back too quickly, universities desperate for their accommodation money keeping students too long. Many more errors too that can all be laid at a weak government's feet.
and your yet another brilliant and knowlegable..I'll be kind..person who knows the freaking lot because of hindsight, we know that now don't we Mr Einstein??? thank you for your brilliant insight, any other bright ideas you have swilling around in your skull? Removed
I returned from skiing on March 9th and astonished to find this country, including numbnuts like you, going about their business as if nothing was happening. I stayed in awaiting the inevitable - 2 weeks later the idiot decided we should lock down and gave a few days notice! All of the other examples have been easy to see as disasters in the making, it didn't need Einstein or hindsight. Removed
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So high obesity is major factor. I know let’s lock the great unwashed up, close all sports and gyms, but let’s keep the takeaways open. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:08:18 6 4
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Over 100,000 people have NOT died of COVID.
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26/01/2021 18:09:26 6 5
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We're hit hard because we are the hub of Europe,the financial capital of Europe,and we as a population are the densest country in Europe,and we are the most Liberal country in Europe,frightened to make hard decisions because of political correctness.Its a lesson for the Liberals in this country button it you're not helping.
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and your yet another brilliant and knowlegable..I'll be kind..person who knows the freaking lot because of hindsight, we know that now don't we Mr Einstein??? thank you for your brilliant insight, any other bright ideas you have swilling around in your skull? Removed
I returned from skiing on March 9th and astonished to find this country, including numbnuts like you, going about their business as if nothing was happening. I stayed in awaiting the inevitable - 2 weeks later the idiot decided we should lock down and gave a few days notice! All of the other examples have been easy to see as disasters in the making, it didn't need Einstein or hindsight. Removed
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26/01/2021 17:42:47 1858 171
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An important factor, overlooked by your article, is that the public (as a whole) is less culturally obedient than some other countries, particularly those in south-east Asia.
I honestly doubt they even bother to fish the bodies out of the Ganges, let alone count them. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:25:42 5 2
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Geography is not your strongest point, is it?
'superman' johnson is to blame. the wackamole idiot. Removed
The reason the death toll is so high is because we have fcukwits running the country. I include Sturgeon as one of them. (I’m Scottish) Our leaders do not have any real empathy with what is happening. They and their colleagues are filling their boots and looking after their own interests. Corrupt, everyone one of them. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:18:25 2 1
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And of course you would have done better. Perhaps you would like to explain how?
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26/01/2021 18:27:55 0 0
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As an Englishman looking to Scotland, Sturgeon looks to be doing a far better job than Boris. It's a shame she is stuck on trying to get indyref2 as she would get my vote for PM if not.
Then I would get rid the the third Krankie who is running Scotland. She is more interested in Independence than trying to save lives. Every day she is on television giving us a party political broadcast. It’s always some one else’s fault. Pathetic. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:16:37 3 6
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To put things in context. Latest figures 2019. Road deaths and serious injuries was 165000.
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26/01/2021 18:19:52 6 3
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The government have blood on their hands for every death directly and indirectly caused as a result of this pandemic and their response.

Time to step down Johnson, Hancock and co
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26/01/2021 18:17:15 5 8
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I am so sick of people spouting on about how well Oz and NZ have done in comparison. These are sparsely populated places remote from the rest of the world. They locked down early but that was because they could as other than holidays very few people go there. Over here we could not close borders in March as a) the virus was already here and b) so many people work in europe and live in the UK
I’m so sick of people trying to pass off our appalling performance from the safety of a socially distanced keyboard.

We took half arsed measures in order to satisfy money counting vampires.

Months with open borders. Ignored advice. 5 cobras missed.

If you voted these scum into office, you have a shared responsibility. They were just doing what they do. You failed to discriminate.
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26/01/2021 17:57:03 20 7
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Wrong
Already seen at least 90% of all death certs state primary cause COVID
Still good to see an ostrich take their head out of the sand for a little while
Actual reports of coroners with covid as one of causes of death is about 50% of govts hysterical fear porn figures. Will be interesting to see death rates over the next few months compared to previous years. It looks like a seasonal resurgence rather than scaremongering 2nd wave Spanish flu we were all terrorised about. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:19:47 9 7
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There is a simple answer to the question in the headline: the Tories!

Years of NHS underfunding, a government of incompetent clowns, a PM who cannot make decisions .....
sheep get restless if you dont like go for independence. were sick of the sheep sheaggers Removed
and your yet another brilliant and knowlegable..I'll be kind..person who knows the freaking lot because of hindsight, we know that now don't we Mr Einstein??? thank you for your brilliant insight, any other bright ideas you have swilling around in your skull? Removed
Bye snowflake. Removed
Boris Johnson is personally responsible for over 50,000 of these deaths through his incompetence and indecisiveness. He should be tried for treason - for which I believe the death penalty is still on the statute books and one that should be applied if he is found guilty. Removed
26/01/2021 18:32:33 1 0
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Not too familiar with the legal definition of treason are you?
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And you could have do better?
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26/01/2021 18:28:18 5 5
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The comparison to New Zealand is specious.. population 5m vs 68m; 43m airline passenger arrivals vs 300m; population density 18 vs 274 etc.. about the only thing the nations have in common is they’re both islands and their Prime Ministers seem to be on the telly a lot..
So stop the flights. Ban foreign jaunts. Johnson did nothing because he's a fat, useless mess who is only fit for telling lies, getting drunk and philandering. A feckless idiot in his own words. Removed
26/01/2021 18:49:51 0 0
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What's DRIPPY excuse in Wales then?
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The BBC forgot to mention its own campaign to encourage black people to gather and protest over an American police issue.

And persistently highlighting some government advisor ( who they hate because he dared question the EU project) taking a solitary walk one day thereby encouraging all simple minded peoole to break social distancing rules.
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The reason the death toll is so high is because we have fcukwits running the country. I include Sturgeon as one of them. (I’m Scottish) Our leaders do not have any real empathy with what is happening. They and their colleagues are filling their boots and looking after their own interests. Corrupt, everyone one of them. Removed
Then I would get rid the the third Krankie who is running Scotland. She is more interested in Independence than trying to save lives. Every day she is on television giving us a party political broadcast. It’s always some one else’s fault. Pathetic. Removed
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26/01/2021 18:28:06 0 0
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Sap?

Ok captain Brexit, you crack on.

Daft comment.
I voted REMAIN -so now who's the prejudiced idiot? Removed
No not really Covid primary cause of death likely to be 10 to 15,000. Similar to the flu.
The stupid measures imposed we should be protesting about
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It is idiots like you spreading lies and misinformation that we should be protesting about. Removed
Not sure, but i'm positive someone at The Hague might have an inkling.... Removed
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26/01/2021 17:54:02 46 10
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It's not that relevant a control, because there are lots of differences between Sweden and the UK besides the approach to Covid. Plus the those who implemented the Swedish policy have concluded they got it wrong.
Check out their total deaths for each year in the last decade and then compare that total to the total for 2020. They are bulldozing the dead into huge pits. Removed
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26/01/2021 17:42:47 171 230
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Drivel. Conspiracy nonsense.
I think a lot of points here have missed the bigger picture . England is the most populated European country per person per sq mile . One of the reasons which contributed to the higher death toll , than other European nations . Blair's wanton disregard for allowing uncontrolled immigration onto our small country whilst in the e u has cost this country , dear . Removed
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Holland?
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26/01/2021 18:10:34 34 6
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No it is not! Our neighbour had two elderly friends who went into hospital because they were severely ill and likely to die there;, they both caught covid while they were in hospital, but before they died and consequently were recorded as covid deaths. These should not be recorded as a deaths due to covid. Of course, not sure how other countries record their covid deaths.
And how do you know what went on the death certificate. The answer is you dont. Stop contributing to this bullshit with more bullshit. Removed
26/01/2021 19:01:18 3 0
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You think people don't know what goes on death certificates?

My Nan and Grandad died a few years ago and I was told wat they died of. You do know relatives get told, don't you? It's not a big government secret.
26/01/2021 18:55:14 1 0
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Not much of a fan of facts?
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26/01/2021 18:50:43 6 11
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The people who voted for Brexit, are to blame, they voted for this clown to "get Brexit done" and condemned us all to his lies. If there had been no Brexit there would have been no Boris and we could have had a real politician in charge who would have listened to the experts and followed the science.
Brexiteers are to blame.
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26/01/2021 18:56:08 3 2
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What's Labour in Wales then?
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Prove it.
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26/01/2021 18:59:11 4 8
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I'll discipline and obesity is the reason we have so many deaths . Quite simple really .
Rubbish. Slow response to rate and lack of border control. Idiot. Removed
26/01/2021 19:22:16 0 0
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Really? then why 4 weeks into lockdown still have 40000 infections a day, because people can’t follow simple rules
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26/01/2021 18:50:43 6 11
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The people who voted for Brexit, are to blame, they voted for this clown to "get Brexit done" and condemned us all to his lies. If there had been no Brexit there would have been no Boris and we could have had a real politician in charge who would have listened to the experts and followed the science.
Brexiteers are to blame.
Really? So no remoaner students were at the latest 400 underground raves then? Meanwhile in the REAL world we would still be waiting for the jab from the EU. MORON Removed
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Legal shot contributed by coming home. If the borders has been closed you would have been unable to.think before you comment.
FK off idiot, he is making valid point ... I also came home from overseas work in mid March and did not see any restrictions at the airports ANYWHERE ! none in Londonshire none in Glasgow , Tories have failed miserably , the only bonus for the filthy animals is the £15 million per week saving on pensions & benefits etc from so far killing 100'000 people. Removed
Well done on a fair report but we contributed important factors. The rise in immigration led to an increase in population density, particularly in London, so the spread of the virus was exacerbated, and black men and women, among the most obese, and Asian families, many of which fail to integrate so live in overcrowded conditions, were hardest hit. We needed to close borders quicker. We didn't. Removed
26/01/2021 19:39:30 0 0
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I hope you enjoyed airing your racist views, they won't be there long.
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26/01/2021 18:00:01 7 1
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Absolutely, and look at Japan, densely populated island like UK, cities very linked up, like UK, but population around double the UK's, and NO govt lockdowns. It had recorded just 5,000 Covid deaths as of Jan this year.
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26/01/2021 18:55:22 6 7
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Why is our death rate so high?

Obvious answer is the NHS is not fit for purpose despite the £130 billion pounds given to it each year. Tens of thousands caught COVID in hospital and they moved cases out to care homes. It’s time for a change and it’s time to move into the 21st century with means tested insurance schemes and private hospitals.

Unpopular but true.
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26/01/2021 18:52:52 8 6
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Of course we are not comparing like with like. Each country uses different methods for counting Covid deaths, so the UK's position is at the top of a league table that is akin to mixing cricket results with football results.
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What ever the PM gets paid, its nowhere near enough to listen to all the moaning little bitches on this forum. Removed
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26/01/2021 17:45:11 172 95
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Should have locked down in January 2020 banned all travel and had a curfew and guess what 12-months later we'd still have the virus like the rest of the planet
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26/01/2021 19:33:58 0 0
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How ? If it is made in the UK (it's not it's Belgium) how can the EU intervene?
The figure is high because the numbers have been manipulated to include ANYONE tested positive, even if they have been hit by a train, had a massive coronary, or died of cancer. True figure ‘from’ solely Covid is around 10,000 at most.
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Also we are an Island that is densely populated so contact is hard to avoid.
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26/01/2021 19:29:31 1 1
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You on the happy juice
26/01/2021 19:32:02 0 0
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How many road traffic accident victims have a underlying illness? I don't understand your point why Covid has to be treated differently.
26/01/2021 19:42:28 0 0
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Your proof ??
26/01/2021 19:26:47 2 6
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Well a FAT nation pays the price for doing nothing as working and shopping. The live in the UK is a joke.
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26/01/2021 19:07:41 5 4
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There have been many mistakes and lessons to be learned. But, this virus only spreads via people, not by the Govt or any other public body. We have been told this since last March. It really should be very simple. If people did as they were asked instead of always trying to find loopholes, and stopped going on about their rights not to obey national directives, we wouldn't be where we are now.
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The abject failure of this Tory government is 120,000 DEAD

PPE - FAILED
Herd immunity - FAILED
Testing - FAILED
Track & Trace - FAILED
Care homes - FAILED
Quarantine - TOO LATE
Schools policy - FAILED
Cummings fiasco - FAILED
Lockdowns 1, 2 and 3 - TOO LATE

Australia has 909 deaths
New Zealand has just 25

UK has over 100,000 deaths, more than Spain and Germany combined.

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And would your party of choice done any better, was it one that complained about lock downs. Did it have "must by millions more PPE" in its election manifesto? Are they gifted with super human hindsight like a character from a Marvel Comic? If the answer is yes, then why are they not running the country. But most importantly why are they still so afraid of calling their electorate morons. Removed
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26/01/2021 19:19:31 11 4
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And the single biggest factor undermining the government's 'stay at home' if you're infected message?

Step forward Dominic Cummings....
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Simple facts - population 68 million. 2 million more than France, 6 million more than Italy. Both these countries have about double our area. Covid likes crowded spaces which we are. An overcrowded island. If one looks back 20 years or so you will find the population was around 58 million. Then the liar Blair got into power and embarked on his social engineering policy equating to 68 mill now.
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We have such a large BAME population in this country who are unwilling to follow the rules, plus they live communally and a different lifestyle to the rest of us. Plus their genetic makeup makes them more susceptible to Covid for some reason. Removed
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No racist bias here then.
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Nasty sweeping generalisation, there. Bit racist I'd say.
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Straight out of the Racist hand book. They follow the rules - due to economics etc they are ghettoised. The life style stuff is trash, the genetics is trash... your an insult to the dead and the living. Report this as a right wing snowflake would.
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26/01/2021 18:49:58 3 6
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What we should have done a d the evidence is clear was to not bother with lockdowns. They simply don’t work and never will. Accept the fact that 25% of the uk population is fat, sick and useless and therefore will die. If it wasn’t COVID 19 it would have been the next viral pandemic. Personal health is the choice of the individual and government cannot influence that nor can they protect you.
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And today we have travellers from Sussex in 4 caravans parked next to our covid testing centre in torbay .....but if we travel more than 5 miles we get a fine....
Why are they exempt from the rules?
This is NOT racism...just a straight forward question.....why do they not get a fine
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There is a two word answer for the high death rate; Boris Johnson.

He should resign immediately.
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No mention of the retards in the UK holding parties/gatherings or not wearing masks in shops etc - it's all the governments fault Removed
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Hello shill.
95,000 a week came in at the airports while we were in the house in the first lockdown , n yet its a kid at a raves fault the deaths in this country are purely down to inept governance , this etonian idiot sacked for lying and plagiarism everywhere he has been , but this country voted for him , glad you "lent him your vote " we don't even know how many kids he has never mind his policies Removed
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26/01/2021 18:23:42 118 210
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Many many more will die due to the effects of the debt and what that means for our lives and health. Lockdown and Covid zealots will realise that one day, when it's all too late.
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Sounds better, more deaths, more fear, more fear, better control of people. That is why they are bringing the fear mongering news periodically. New strain, more deadly strain, digging of graves, milestones in death. On and on until we stop listening and have a look around and see, not much has changed, has it?
26/01/2021 19:02:34 4 7
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Just pondering if Sir Keir was PM and the situation was the same would you Tory fans be applauding his performance? Thought not clownish ones
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You wanna know why? BLM?? Removed
26/01/2021 19:57:40 4 1
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Yes.

Grow up, Lewis
26/01/2021 20:14:19 0 0
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Typical racist Brexiteer comment. It's no wonder the country is in the state it is.
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Trumpist BS.

The UK response is the responsibility of one political party and their backers.
26/01/2021 20:10:50 1 0
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how oxymoronic of you to use a roger waters lyric when you are clearly the antithesis of what he writes a lot about
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26/01/2021 17:57:16 87 7
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We gambled the economy against the body count, lacked the courage to take prompt hard action and have ended up with the worst of both worlds, an endless twilight zone of semi lockdown that saves neither lives nor the economy.
There was never much hope with so called experts like professor Sridhar who thinks this cold virus is more dangerous than influenza. Crank science fuelled the disproportionate overreaction that has destroyed our society. Removed
The reason we have one of the worlds worst death rates is so obvious.

BRING IT ON, BUSINESS AS USUAL, TAKE IT ONE THE CHIN, SHAKE HANDS, OPERATION LAST GASP, STAY ALERT, OPERATION MOONSHOT, TURM THE TIDE, SAVE THE NHS, UNDERFUND THE NHS, WAFFLE DRIVEL PIFFLE & PHWAARRR. THANKS, VILLAGE IDIOT HERE, I AM OFF TO THE FRIDGE FOR MORE WINE, TALLY HO WOT.
26/01/2021 20:06:38 14 2
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profit before people wealth before health conselfservatives took so long to lockdown as they had to formulate a plan to make vast sums from it our great grand kids will be paying for this and brexit long after we are dead
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Most deaths are due to underlying health issues, many due to unhealthy life styles, countries that cannot sustain people with underlying health issues or unhealthy life styles aren’t going to experience as many deaths. Removed
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26/01/2021 20:24:07 0 5
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No. The poor are dying but that would make you feel guilty so you blame unhealthy people, you probably blame BAME for being BAME too
26/01/2021 20:29:07 1 1
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Well said, alas many elderly also but they generally have other conditions.
26/01/2021 20:38:49 0 0
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You don’t die of Covid from being a drinker, smoker or overweight. My guess is you are a drinker.
26/01/2021 20:27:55 0 0
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Rubbish and lies
Most deaths are due to underlying health issues, many due to unhealthy life styles, countries that cannot sustain people with underlying health issues or unhealthy life styles aren’t going to experience as many deaths. Removed
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Then report me.

It’s feeble thinking that any statement you don’t like is ‘shameful fascist comment’

Is anything i said untrue, suppressing the truth Is shameful and fascist.
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26/01/2021 20:00:59 10 8
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At least 50,000 of these deaths are the direct result of Johnsons incompetence, laziness, arrogance and indifference. Blatant disregard for the lives of the UK's citizens on this scale is treason. he should be on trial for treason and, as the death penalty is still on the books for this, executed if found guilty.
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26/01/2021 18:22:53 3 6
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I don’t believe an other party would’ve dealt with this pandemic any better , yes I think boris has been slow of the mark frequently , do you really think the brits would have obeyed a very strict lockdown from the start I don’t believe they would , only gotta look at beaches last summer says it all about the mentality of many
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26/01/2021 20:00:59 10 8
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At least 50,000 of these deaths are the direct result of Johnsons incompetence, laziness, arrogance and indifference. Blatant disregard for the lives of the UK's citizens on this scale is treason. he should be on trial for treason and, as the death penalty is still on the books for this, executed if found guilty.
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26/01/2021 20:14:37 6 4
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WHO test test test

Boris NO NO NO NEVER AT OUR PORTS NEVER I SAY AND MEAN IT

DONT CARE HOW MANY DIE OUR PORTS WILL BE LEFT OPEN

I SAY AGAIN NO TESTING AT UK PORTS NEVER NEVER NEVER

100'000 DEAD

STILL NO TESTING AT UK PORTS

BORIS STICKING WITH HIS PROMISE OF NO TESTING AT UK PORTS

BORIS MUM AND DAD CAN'T BE HELD UP AT PORTS CAN THEY
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26/01/2021 20:08:35 5 3
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this is not the true figure. how is it that it is impossible to die from covid 19 once you've passed the 28 day mark and you are not in hospital???? If you die in bed, 34 days after testing positive you don't count according to this govt and their self-identified bunch of academics!!!! Lies, lurgy and latitude is the answer.
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26/01/2021 20:17:17 3 3
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Let me tell you this, arrogant and unwilling to learn especially from the people you think they are lesser than yourself that causes so many death in this country. Mind you all the death are not foreigners but your own people.
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26/01/2021 20:19:36 7 4
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100,000 dead and yet people are still ignoring the Stay At Home rules. My neighbour’s 20 year old daughter goes out every day for 4-6 hours and isn’t working, shopping or in a support bubble. What do her parents do? Nothing. Stop blaming the government for the public’s inability to suffer a little inconvenience
26/01/2021 19:42:46 4 4
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Even though they have not been in power for 11 years these deaths must be the fault of Labour and lefties.
26/01/2021 20:21:29 7 5
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masks. masks in public, masks in queues, masks in parks. masks and social distancing. some people think it doesn't mean them. masks should be mandatory.
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Then report me.

It’s feeble thinking that any statement you don’t like is ‘shameful fascist comment’

Is anything i said untrue, suppressing the truth Is shameful and fascist.
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26/01/2021 20:40:10 8 6
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I’m calling bullsh*t on the top on the top rated comment and all those libertarians claiming that we aren’t like the Chinese and we value our freedoms over all else. The British people will stand up and do what’s need when asked. It’s muddled messages, delayed decisions and clueless leadership that have let us down. Ask us to do what is needed and we will do it. Look back to WW2...
Yeah, lots of people were killed then but it was a good time to be alive wasn't it!

Idiot.
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26/01/2021 20:50:54 1 0
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What’s your name pal, cos that’s my real name above. Another nameless, faceless troller lacking the courage to stand by what he says with his name. They call folk like you cowards.
26/01/2021 19:56:28 20 1
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The BBC should be placed in charge of the country - it always knows better than everyone else. I expect to see Laura Kuenssberg run to be PM so that we will all be saved.
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26/01/2021 17:54:15 32 12
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BLM misbehaviour didn't help
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26/01/2021 20:02:05 12 3
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ITALY 85,000 DEATHS + LEADER RESIGNS
UK 100,000+ DDEATHS + ?
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26/01/2021 20:27:49 5 5
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Well written and informative. Thank you BBC.
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This will upset the Boris-bashers on here !

Tories go into a 5-point lead over Labour in latest poll !

Google 'Latest Opinion Polls' then click on 'Mark Pack' !
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26/01/2021 21:01:57 4 1
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Oh dear. You and your opinion polls of less than a 1000 sample. All valid polls show he’s doomed. Toast, 90 seats set to lose. But no doubt you will be moaning about stopping the steal right?
26/01/2021 21:03:26 2 0
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I’m surprised it’s only 5 points.
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26/01/2021 20:31:34 9 4
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EAT OUT TO HELP OUT encouraged people to think it was safe and drop their guard

Virus super high ways encouraged people to go on holiday abroad thinking it was safe dropping their guard

we are looking into face mask for 6 months ?

No testing at UK ports

emptying corona virus patients into nursing homes

there you go every single one of these Boris is reasonable for 100%

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26/01/2021 22:05:50 1 0
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A bit of negative news! What crazy planet do you live on. Nothing sadder than being a volunteer apologist for unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of Brits.
26/01/2021 22:06:55 0 0
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Tell me something positive he’s done?
Den
26/01/2021 22:04:41 0 0
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The only sad thing is how many people have died due to the conservative government's mishandling of this pandemic.
26/01/2021 22:18:01 0 0
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You know snow and water are the same, and water keeps you alive?
26/01/2021 21:00:57 4 0
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A lot of mistakes and delays early on, allowed the virus to get a firm grip. The lack of testing in March and then we were very slow to develope a track and trace system. Obesity is part of the problem, but if you stop the spread of the virus this becomes a lot less of a problem. Care homes got over run in the first wave and so did the NHS workers. An enquirey will sort out who is to blame.
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26/01/2021 21:40:20 9 4
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I blame everyone who voted Tory at the last election.
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26/01/2021 22:08:26 0 0
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indeed...
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26/01/2021 17:42:42 456 139
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First sentence correct. Last sentence, not true. We are one of the world leaders in making the vaccine and delivery. Look at the while picture, not just the bits that suit your politics
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Is anyone surprised with overcrowded England? After decades of mass-immigration followed by Free Movement from the EU ?

Small terraced houses in our big cities housing several generations of same families.
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26/01/2021 22:51:17 3 1
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Yes I'm surprised. There's 1,500,000,000 in China. You blame the EU and others because you don't want to stay in?
26/01/2021 22:55:52 4 0
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S Korea had twice our population density...

You poor grasp of data does not justify your blatant xenophobia!
26/01/2021 22:59:32 3 0
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Blaming immigration....????

Utter tosh, without the immigration the NHS would've collapsed decades ago

Woeful housing undoubtedly plays its part though, and that's successive govts too weak to address something that's been a problem for generations
26/01/2021 23:14:08 0 0
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We should go back to the good old days when all Britons lived with multiple generations in small, overcrowded houses, not just some of us?
26/01/2021 22:18:40 3 7
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Just imagine what state the country would be in under captain hindsight!
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26/01/2021 23:19:23 0 0
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Could you translate into something intelligible please?
26/01/2021 23:19:46 0 0
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But he was right about you.
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27/01/2021 00:11:23 2 3
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The situation is difficult. The bulk of our population is packed in tight together and so it's crucial people stick to the rules.
However, some just won't, the fools who want to climb mountains in jogging pants, the brainless who, when pubs weren't open in their area would travel to where they were and idiots driving hundreds of miles for a burger. All violators have blood on their hands. Shameful
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27/01/2021 00:07:04 2 7
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The problem with this country is that the demonic curse of socialism has become deeply embedded. We now have masses of people who do not personal responsibility for their actions, including allowing themseves to get infected with Covid; who cannot think; and look to the state like Father Christmas. Meanwhile the socialists run a continuous hate campaign against the rich and righteous.
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27/01/2021 00:29:50 1 0
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dont disagree with any of what you say...in fact the empirical evidence is clear.....well said....you have got to call out what you see.
Boris and his whole cabinet have to go on trial for Mass manslaughter

they have totally ignored all protocols available to stop and contain corona virus

ending in the death so far of 100'000 people with no end in sight

over 500'000 people with long covid cases with no end in sight

and we are looking at these numbers doubling at the least

Boris is a killer and has to go on trail
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27/01/2021 00:35:29 1 2
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Appalachian?
27/01/2021 00:36:12 2 0
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Finally "respect the 52" makes a comment I can (almost) support. But rather than "Boris is a killer and has to go on trail" I suggest

Johnson is a populist charlatan when we need a leader - he has to go
27/01/2021 00:36:45 0 1
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In that case so should those attending the latest 400 underground party. Problem with you constant moaners is is always someone else fault.
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27/01/2021 00:36:49 4 1
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Tory party == Stupid party

'Twas ever thus....
Spanish Flu lasted 2 years

we are the first year into corona virus

do you really think Boris and his Killer Scientific clowns should take us through the second year
of corona Virus .

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27/01/2021 00:40:40 1 1
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Alas the world didn’t have vaccines in the first year of the Spanish Flu.
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27/01/2021 00:41:23 0 0
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Its a jaw dropping circus...watch if you can stay on your feet!
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italy 85000 dead PM resigns after criticism of his actions in handling crisis
uk 100,000 PM says sorry and carries on
disgrace
He’s a crazed narcissist
Power hungry
Lazy
Cheating
Racist
Corrupt
Pathological liar

Who voted for this?
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27/01/2021 01:00:59 2 1
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The "Great" British people are REAL disgrace when attending the latest 400 student party.
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27/01/2021 01:33:26 1 5
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So what's Wales first minister excuse?
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27/01/2021 00:59:58 1 7
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The momentum trolls like to jump on the latest bandwagon. But don't remember Boris being the DJ at the latest 400 student party do you? Meanwhile silence on the epic failure of a LABOUR First minister of Wales DRIPford. Who did exactly the same as central gov. Who have decided to do a U-TURN on schools opening. After KNEE Bender Starmer and their union pals was screeching for them to be closed
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27/01/2021 01:34:54 0 5
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Should Boris have padlocked the latest masses at the underground raves in their bedroom?
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27/01/2021 02:07:29 0 3
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So did the LABOUR Liverpool mayor who used intimidation to silence those that spoke out. Not forgetting the Labour Leicester sweatshops spreaders. You were screeching for ppe. YOU GOT PPE
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27/01/2021 02:23:06 0 2
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Loving. I've been posting all day. Only the momentum trolls up at this hour thou. They don't contribute to the country see. Never have.
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27/01/2021 04:00:24 1 3
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If you even had a basic knowledge of science, following simple safety rules would have prevented the spread in your small island. But you are a big mouthed, loud and vile people.
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27/01/2021 04:12:26 2 0
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Pathetic drivel.
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27/01/2021 07:24:19 1 0
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Don't be silly - everyone is trying their best!
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27/01/2021 10:47:00 2 1
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Did anyone watch '54 Days' last night?
The disaster isn't the fault of the British government. It's the fault of the Chinese government.
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BJ and his SAGE Big Pharma sidekicks Van Tam, Vallance and Whitty are to blame yet we still take their advice. Why? The Big Pharma control of the truth, governments, media, and finance and have ended cheap, preventative medicine such as vitamin C (and D). We see South Korea and China using high dose intravenous vitamin C to cure Covid 19 in a matter of days. That is why their death rates are low. Removed
27/01/2021 11:48:19 2 0
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Vitamin C cures Covid, who knew? Have you informed the NHS, maybe the 100k+ didn't need to die if only they'd taken some vitamin C tables.
27/01/2021 11:45:19 1 0
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Where do you read this nonsense?
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27/01/2021 11:21:37 6 1
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Government and PM takes full responsability . They should have the decency of resigning . Too easy to say mistakes has been done and that they are sorry . Today I think of the elder people who have died , of the liberties we have lost .
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26/01/2021 18:46:01 15 38
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It may be sad but it is not dreadful. For the most part deaths arose from among already sickly elderly and younger persons unlikely to have long expectation of quality life. Tragedy arises not from ravage by the virus but from silly response by collapsing our economy, sowing fear, and damaging young people in formative years whose lives may be blighted for a long time.
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27/01/2021 12:59:57 4 1
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Hindsight warriors everywhere.
27/01/2021 13:08:53 1 3
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No body mentions the Role of the NHS (not being the best health service ) free for all and poor in outcomes.
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27/01/2021 13:50:27 5 3
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Ignored reports on preparedness for pandemic etc, PPE shortages, Elderly covid patients discharged to care homes where shielding was taking place, ignored expert opinions, late to react appropriately, supported selected lockdown breakers, u turned more times than a driving instructor on issues where delays cost lives, pursued education decisions to the detriment of students and their families.END
27/01/2021 14:30:09 3 6
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Given that so many people are still having to go to work in unsafe environments e.g. Government offices are open (see DVLA deaths), is it any wonder a minority of people ignore the Tory Government?

Australians aren't noted for kowtowing to authority, but they have had a far more responsible government than us; people accepted the restrictions as their government led by good example.
27/01/2021 14:48:30 0 1
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The comparison can easily be made because, like us, most of their citizens live in large towns or cities. The comparison is also about the attitude of the government, but if you like we can compare to Germany.

See how easy it is to reply with being offensively abusive?!
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Fat people. Old people. Ill people.

The above are the reasons why
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27/01/2021 14:51:22 0 5
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You left out the biggie - Govt. incompetence.
the boris cult is very strong in some obi wan
how can someone with every character fault in existence inspire such pathologically deep following and blind allegiance?
a truly staggering state of affairs
care to explain
but i doubt einstein even can?????
A very simple concept luvvie, the belief that it's people like YOU, who are the scum of the earth, and should be avoided like the plague.

Boris has his faults (like everyone else), but to have such deep hatred for someone, only shows your own bigoted sectarian hatred. YOU need to get over Brexit or this irish chip on your shoulder luvvie, you're mental health is obviously suffering, very badly.
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OK, it appears the mods aren't going to remove your comment so let me reply and tell you you are incredibly thick. My IQ is far above yours!! Removed
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27/01/2021 15:29:36 0 1
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Apparently the mods think it's fine for insults, so let me reply to you my fascist friend. I am no lover of totalitarian regimes, which are all, in action, right wing.
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27/01/2021 17:14:28 3 2
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"When the digestion process has been completed, you can see the remainder sliding down the toilet pan"

Rather than "Remainder" I prefer "kids"
Thus
"Grumpy Grandad had a tantrum to spite his kids, and the country and his kids' future slid down the pan. And Grumpy Grandad was well appy cos it ment Boris had lisssind to him, evin tho Boris cud't organise a * up in a brewery"
27/01/2021 17:11:13 3 0
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The UK got in 3 months before the EU in signing contracts. The UK also invested heavily in the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
27/01/2021 17:45:15 1 0
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So they are going to breech both contracts then.
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27/01/2021 18:44:51 0 0
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Bit of a poncey comment
27/01/2021 19:00:47 0 0
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Guilty as charged.
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27/01/2021 22:26:52 6 2
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Where do you start?
Ignored a report into our pandemic readiness declaring we hadn't enough PPE.
Failed to shut borders.
Locked down too late, opened up too early.
Discharged people with covid into care homes.
Failed to send right message and sack Cummings.
Track & Trace.
Repeated mistakes in winter, locked down way too late.
Xmas!
Covid deniers and self entitled still refusing to wear masks.
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