Covid: Why won't vaccinating the vulnerable end lockdown?
22/01/2021 | news | health | 1,364
Doubts have been raised about lifting Covid restrictions in the spring. What are the hurdles in the way?
The government imposed these illegal and immoral restrictions as an attempt to copy China and Italy. Vaccines, low number of deaths etc will not stop the ruling class enjoying the sort of power that the MSM and the public has handed it. These horrendous lockdowns will only end when the public wake up and grow up regarding viruses and our own mortality... and remember the reasons for being alive! Removed
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22/01/2021 11:07:24 1 0
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Spot on.
The BBC keep removing my comments ... For telling people to 'think for themselves' and criticism of the government...this is why the BBC and its fee has to go with lockdowns! Removed
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22/01/2021 11:26:28 6 6
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You don't have the right to break the law and call it thinking for yourself. Your not a Virologist, you don't know better.
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22/01/2021 11:46:31 1 2
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How stupid can you be, if the NHS has no capacity to treat you when you need it it does effect you. Need an ICU bed after a car accident and none available you will die not of COVID but of the stupidity of people like you. What exactly are your medical qualification, none clearly? And what has the lock down got to do with the BBC or any other media out let, if you don't like BBC why are you here?
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22/01/2021 11:37:44 138 21
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We must open up as much as we can once top tiers have been vaccinated.We cannot continue with the economy in a coma.There must be a level of risk considered good enough as we cant wait to vaccinate 66 million people while the country goes into freefall.Remember public funds are need for the NHS. This situation is unsustainable and people need to know the end is in sight and its not all doom.
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22/01/2021 11:06:11 88 38
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We need to open the country fully by late spring, regardless of what happens in the next few months. Immune systems are stronger in summer, people are outside more and there is less pressure on the NHS. Allow the population to be exposed to the virus at the time of lowest risk.
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22/01/2021 12:28:50 14 98
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Thank your lucky stars you are living, then! Stop moaning!
Stop Lecturing! Idiot! The guy said he was existing, not living. Have some respect! Removed
Tit! Have some respect, yourself! Conditions in WWI and WWII were MUCH worse! THAT was hardship old pal! Removed
Stop Lecturing! Idiot! The guy said he was existing, not living. Have some respect! Removed
Tit! Have some respect, yourself! Conditions in WWI and WWII were MUCH worse! THAT was hardship old pal! Removed
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22/01/2021 12:45:42 11 6
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Surely the enemy to be defeated is the unprecendented diviouse COVID 19 that is focused on destroying us humans, & so far making a good job of it.

Whatever the rules or recommendtions, to obey, whatever the loneliness of isolation, my survival is foremost in my mind & using my common sense to help avoid inefection for as long as it takes, there is no alternative - OK.





Grow a pair. You are pathetic Removed
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22/01/2021 12:57:49 2 0
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I suggest you re-read it
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22/01/2021 12:47:53 30 3
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Nobody at any point in history knows if they're going to see the next day.

Oh, and re: your post, WW2 didn't start in 1935. If you're going to wearily invoke wars which you didn't fight in and/or live through (WW1), at least have the common decency to get the dates right.
War started in 1935 for some, just as WWII didn't start for US until 1942! Removed
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22/01/2021 12:47:53 30 3
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Nobody at any point in history knows if they're going to see the next day.

Oh, and re: your post, WW2 didn't start in 1935. If you're going to wearily invoke wars which you didn't fight in and/or live through (WW1), at least have the common decency to get the dates right.
Aha, we have a PERFECT typist here, have we? Nabhead! Removed
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22/01/2021 12:43:00 5 2
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Given that the Health Secretary said that one third of adult social care goes to working age, that is a high volume of under retired who are vulnerable besides those who have underlying medical conditions that makes them so too.

No one, even the so called young and fit can guarantee survival as we have seen and scientists don't yet know if the developing variants will be more lethal to all ages.
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22/01/2021 12:14:06 8 6
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We were pretty much promised that the vaccine was our key to freedom a few months back. Now articles like this are telling us otherwise. So so devastating to mental health. When will the sage scientists start SERIOUSLY considering this and all the other damaging side effects when advising all these prolonged lockdowns. When the most vulnerable are vaccinated, these must end.
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22/01/2021 12:39:05 4 6
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It's unbelievable how many people are willing to let thousands- or hundreds of thousands - of people die just because they want to go to the gym and meet friends at the pub. Education is necessary: they should reopen schools asap. The rest of the things so central to your precious economy - leisure, entertainment, etc - are just frosting on the cake.
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22/01/2021 12:56:29 4 2
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That is concerning "buddy miles", do you have a link for the paper by Leicester Uni. I agree the 28 day cut off for Covid-19 is (politically) diminishing the true death rate due to Covid-19
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22/01/2021 12:31:50 20 62
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Think yourself lucky you weren't living between 1914-18 or 1935-45, then
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22/01/2021 12:29:37 16 55
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Better than being dead, I presume!
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22/01/2021 12:46:53 0 24
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Aha, you've got the message!
"Aha, you've got the message!"

Yeah I got your message, now for some good advice in life.

When your significant other has finished pegging you, your supposed to pull it out.

That way you will be more comfortable and less likely to need to go trolling on the chat boards of a public broadcaster.

Have a truly wonderful day and I hope your life stays positive.
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22/01/2021 14:11:45 2 2
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Is it me or do other people agree that it's a wonderful idea, if you are a student and not really in danger, you party, catch the virus, get given £500 to isolate for 14 days, then do the same again. £250 a week for nothing.
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22/01/2021 13:56:04 3 5
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This merry go round has got to stop, this is no quality of life and causing so much more harm locking us up.
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22/01/2021 13:55:24 6 6
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Everyone is too scared to say we have to move on at some point and accept COVID as a risk we tolerate. Chris Whitty mentioned this, but we have given too much voice to scientists who sit in ivory towers with well paid jobs and have no idea what lock down, unemployment and mental health issues mean in the real world. By the time we "eliminate the virus" we will have eliminated humanity.
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Please will people stop ranting on about mental health. Apart from those who were already suffering from a mental illness it is extremely unlikely that people will develop anything other than straight boredom and frustration which are not illnesses!. Yes it's boring, If you would all stop going on and on perhaps it would be easier to bear. Removed
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22/01/2021 15:16:42 2 1
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I dont think you understand the situation. NEARLU EVERYTHING GOOD IN LIFE HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM US
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22/01/2021 16:20:38 0 0
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Going to have to call this out. If you don't understand what mental illness can be, don't post this bull.

Boredom is not why people jump off bridges, walk over railway lines or any other method.

Why has this not been moderated out? Free speach is great, but mental health denial is outrageous.
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22/01/2021 14:35:44 0 0
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I think it is marvellous that in Scotland we hear that the government are proud of the old in care homes are priority but what about the aged living at home on there own or with their family why are they not as much priority groups in care homes we need it to
Care home being ultra careful but gets infected because some idiot doesn't follow the rules and kills 10, 15, 20 or more residents.
Large family with older members gets infected through the young ones not following the rules, perhaps one or two deaths. Simple!

At risk of being called racist three out of five young Covid positive members of our workforce are Asian living with large family groups.
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22/01/2021 11:27:49 207 49
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A problem here is that the price of the pandemic is being calculated using a limited range of metrics; mainly NHS bed space and deaths of bluntly, predominantly the elderly. There is very little calculation of the cost this is having in less tangible ways. This includes mental health, the impact on our children, the impact on our families and our basic freedoms. Society will soon say NO MORE
are you in favour of a cull of over 70s? Removed
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22/01/2021 14:44:56 4 0
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"And for younger age groups, who are at little risk of dying from the virus, there is still the risk of long-Covid,"

What is the risk? How does it compare with other risks? Is it worth the impact of a seemingly endless lockdown?

The single biggest killer of young men under 45 is suicide
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The BBC moderators removed my comment that points out BMA advice to doctors on recording Covid. That tells you that this is fast becoming a totalitarian exercise in population control. Removed
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22/01/2021 16:19:00 1 0
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Some people blow my mind. How anyone can look towards the CCP and admire them is beyond me
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With the constant moving of goal posts and bozo saying that we aren’t getting our privileges (the cheek!!!) back soon, it’s time for something to make the government think about its actions. We need a nice hot summer or spring and some civil unrest. He thinks we are idiots, time to remind him that we are not. Removed
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23/01/2021 00:54:10 0 0
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Some civil unrest so you can get back to killing older people and anyone with health problems with impunity?
Why isn’t the use of the viricidal PVPI nasal spray and throat gargle (marketed as Betadine for colds — yes, it’s available over the counter, and has been shown to knock out this virus completely) being given out to everyone? Ophthalmologists and dentists have published on its effectiveness (in Nature, British Medical Journal) etc. But it’s considered a disinfectant and therefore taboo.... Removed
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22/01/2021 22:32:45 0 0
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It's tinfoil hat time again! A spray is useless unless you constantly apply it. The virus takes less than 15 minutes to get from (say) your nose to your bloodstream.
Still a lot of talk about it coming from the Wuhan lab. The Australians have a lot of dealings with China despite the odd spat.

Here are some of the pathogens currently available to buy from Australia,

https://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/minisite/theaustraliagroupnet/site/en/human_animal_pathogens.html
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22/01/2021 21:47:05 1 0
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What happens when someone gets a bad reaction to Covid and ends up in hospital? Are they just discharged afterwards and that's it? Are they taken in for tests every few weeks? Are they called to ask if they still have any side effects? It seems to me that 10 months on we have should have a far more comprehensive picture of what exactly happens post Covid.
1 in 3 of them go back to hospital within 6 months, to die. Removed
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22/01/2021 22:06:32 0 0
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after the pandemic obviously
Good old BBC. We have to pay for the privilege of reading this depressing, government endorsed drivel. The BBC is no more a public service than the Tories are public servants. Piss poor programming and piss poor click bait standard reporting. This country and it’s people will rise again - no thanks to this pitiful shadow of a corporation Removed
We are not allowed to mention on BBC HYS that non white people get covid-19. My post was deleted for mentioning it!

NHS ENGLAND WEBSITE......... We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people, including our NHS staff, who have contracted COVID-19.

BBC can't handle the truth about my young Asian workmates getting Covid!
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22/01/2021 23:07:59 1 0
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There's articles all over the BBC website highlighting greater risks to particular groups.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53129374

for example
There you go BBC, that wasn't hard. NHS agrees with me but you found fit to delete my post as racist for mentioning the A word?

Asians come from Asia! Who'd have thought it!

BBC can't handle the truth about my young NHS Asian workmates getting Covid!
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23/01/2021 00:42:16 1 0
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If you honestly think COVID was created to control people then you’re talking about the most sophisticated global conspiracy imaginable - it’d require ALL leaders throughout the world and ALL their teams to be evil at the same time. There’s no doubt people are getting ill so the virus definitely exists. Why do you think there’s not a legitimate effort to fix it?
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23/01/2021 01:48:21 4 3
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What don't you understand? The virus will kill you and your kids if we continue to allow it to spread and mutate. It isn't fantasy. Already, mutations have made it more contagious, more deadly, potentially more resistant to vaccines. What happens when it mutates so that it isn't just old/vulnerable that are at risk? It will, it will have to when it runs out of old folk.
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23/01/2021 05:10:49 3 3
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The government lies.
It plays with us, feeding us vague rubbish that it know, full well, is false.
How do you know that the politicians are lying?
They open their mouths.
This is equally true for your good self and I request for you to shut it and keep it shut. I prefer theirs to yours. It's a matter of quality. Removed
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22/01/2021 19:58:30 7 2
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Had the lockdown part one been as strict as that in Wuhan the shock to the economy and closed schools or business would be over.
Unlimited travel over summer helped fan the infections already present into a new wave as autumn began.
Excluding those who can't have vaccines from hospitals would be not lockdown but murder - of women and children in childbirths that need to take place in appropriate medical contexts, of pregnant women with medical emergencies, of every child who has a life threatening condition that needs hospital care, of cancer patients not well enough to receive vaccinations. Those hospitals exist to serve! Removed
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22/01/2021 11:53:46 164 34
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The elephant in the room is the BBC & other media. The scientists say we'll live with a level or risk but will the media? I imagine that the BBC will roll-out a series of bereaved families to emotionally blackmail any politician who supports relaxation. If you were a politician what would you do?
You're talking drivel. if you dislike the BBC. so much don't post your stupidity on HYS send it to the Daily Fail letters page, your far more likely to reach your target audience. Removed
in china the policy is no one over 60 to be vaccinated

reasoning behind this is the young are the main spreaders of corona virus
with working people .so cutting the chain of transmission is seen as the priority.

any vaccine you put into old people with underlining health condition
carries a high risk .
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23/01/2021 18:17:57 0 0
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Yes, up a very Steep and dangerous Mountain followed by a long walk off a short pier!!
23/01/2021 19:19:50 3 0
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How many heathy teenagers die from measles or polio in the Uk?

If you do not understand how vaccination and herd immunity works - look it up!
You're an idiot - healthy teenagers don't die from Covid because they have a functioning immune system and can shrug the infection off. Comparing this glorified cold to measles or polio is ridiculous. Get back to hiding under your bed and give it a rest. Removed
@Callofduty 21:10

Imagine standing in a space suit, with your airline attached to a septic tank. This would be how I'd describe your comments on here.
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That sounds like being force-fed with s**t.