Covid: Gavin Williamson hopes England's schools will reopen by Easter
21/01/2021 | news | education | 1,424
The education secretary says schools in England will be given two weeks' notice before reopening.
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Why is Gavin Williamson still in a job ????

Anyone else that incompetent would have been sacked by now.
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21/01/2021 12:06:42 286 62
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And no doubt his supporters will try and deflect the blame, with a spot of teacher-bashing.
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21/01/2021 12:08:31 45 7
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As a former Chief Whip he knows where the bodies are buried.
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21/01/2021 12:14:09 63 13
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Well, look at who his boss is. BoJo isn't 'competent' except as an after dinner speaker, he won't demand competence from his minions.
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21/01/2021 12:40:50 40 7
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He’s worse than Failing Grayling was!!!
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21/01/2021 12:51:12 32 6
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'Why is Gavin Williamson still in a job?'

Williamson as a former Whip, Boris and the rest of the senior Cabinet members don't know (or they do) the dirt he has on them

Note: Patel hasn't been sacked for saying yesterday she had all the answers last March and the PM chose to overrule her idea

Note 2: Patel didn't resign at the time even though, according to her, she was overruled on a key issue
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21/01/2021 12:53:13 15 37
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And Keir Starmer kept his as DPP for 6 years AND got a Knighthood to boot.
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21/01/2021 12:55:19 35 7
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He hasn't lost his job because he's one of the Boris faithful. Hitched their wagon to his in Brexit to stay in the party. If Boris gets rid of him, someone else may come in that won't be as willing to drink the Kool-aid and praise Boris as the saviour of Britain and British Politics like he believes he in inside his own head!
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21/01/2021 12:55:53 46 10
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What you are forgetting is that this bunch has no Honor at all, especially their leader Bozo.
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21/01/2021 13:05:44 22 6
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You could say that about pretty much everyone in Government, in particular Matt Hancock-it up.
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21/01/2021 13:09:58 3 21
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Can't help but think you and most of your support are the same who'll take your children out during term time.
Schools manage themselves, they all took the shilling when grant maintained and then academy statuses were offered up, now they don't want the responsibility.
Most head teachers deserve a bashing, they demoralise the staff and shirk the responsibility whilst getting paid more than the PM.
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21/01/2021 13:16:16 7 1
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Recently had a reply from his department (DFE) in response to a series of questions I had asked about access to online learning for disadvantaged families. The response can be politely described as total gobbledegook.
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21/01/2021 13:16:31 10 2
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Could say the same about Boris. Too late to do anything, due to his sponsors not wanting to loose money whilst people die!
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21/01/2021 13:00:42 12 2
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But where does one start? Most of the cabinet, including the PM, are grossly incompetent.

Well, not at everything. They are good at climbing greasy poles. I was going to add good at lying, but they are not even good at that.
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21/01/2021 13:24:41 0 2
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True, although the Scottish education minister is no better, and he hasn't been sacked either. I reckon that Williamson will go at the next reshuffle, but Swinney will hang on.
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21/01/2021 13:28:02 5 1
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It is less about why he is still in this role and more about how he gets any role at all...
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21/01/2021 13:30:59 3 1
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Not by Boris, he never sacks those who suck up to him like Williamson.
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21/01/2021 13:32:28 5 3
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He is at the same level of ability as the rest of the Tories. Sack them all.
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21/01/2021 13:42:08 0 1
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Or promoted
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21/01/2021 13:57:26 0 1
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Probably the same reason the rest of them are still in one.
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21/01/2021 13:58:33 0 2
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He is vision be sure he is doing it very well
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21/01/2021 14:04:47 0 1
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90% of the government would have sent packing
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21/01/2021 14:12:42 3 1
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He will not be sacked because he is apparently loyal to BJ. Also all the racists, idiots and bullies make BJ look less terrible than he really is. Compared to the rest Johnson looks capable - how low our expectations for our prime minister have become. I thought Trump's response for COVID was bad but on a per capita basis we are right with them. You get the government you deserve. Sad.
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21/01/2021 14:33:37 0 0
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Cause he has all the abilities of those he represents.
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21/01/2021 14:52:14 2 1
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Agreed. Incompetence personified
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21/01/2021 14:55:51 1 2
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What a completely childish user name you have given yourself!
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21/01/2021 15:00:43 1 3
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And you think you could do better.people like you make this country a laughing stock
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21/01/2021 15:44:57 0 1
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Along with Bojo and Handycock... Made it up as they go along,
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21/01/2021 15:58:19 0 1
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He can’t be sacked. He’s got something over Boris. That must be the only reason why he’s still around.
21/01/2021 16:18:56 0 1
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He acts a shield to the more important people of incompetence in the party
21/01/2021 16:43:30 0 1
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You are absolutely correct. It does make one wonder as to how much money was spent on Williamson’s own education, when it seems he’d struggle to organise porridge. He has not been sacked because his boss BoJo also lacks the intelligence to utilise what he was taught. It’s all dither dither Uturn dither. Be thankful this career politician is not Chancellor, or even Health Secretary.
21/01/2021 17:01:20 0 1
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Does having incompetent minions make the leader look less poor by comparison?
21/01/2021 17:51:38 0 1
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Why is Priti Patel still Home Secretary with multiple bullying allegations? Totally shameful Cabinet!
21/01/2021 17:58:08 0 1
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Because Williamson's boss is an incompetent dodo brain who should be sacked by the British public in the next election.
21/01/2021 18:20:10 0 1
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Bozza needs spineless yes men/women around him, not people who can think for themselves. Williamson is literally the perfect fit for a member of this Cabinet.
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21/01/2021 12:05:23 463 72
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Why is Gavin Williamson still in a job ????

Anyone else that incompetent would have been sacked by now.
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And no doubt his supporters will try and deflect the blame, with a spot of teacher-bashing.
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21/01/2021 12:33:24 18 3
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Williamson's union, the 1922 committee are doing a great job.
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21/01/2021 12:58:04 5 38
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because you cant blame the teachers can you
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21/01/2021 13:11:47 1 16
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Ah, I disagree with your position so I'll claim you're attacking another group of people to hide my extremely weak position.
Pathetic, straight out of Trump and Borden's play books. Socialist are you?
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21/01/2021 15:04:31 1 1
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Certain it nt, we just do not like unfair criticism by people who could do no better.
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21/01/2021 15:51:10 0 1
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Bang on.
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21/01/2021 12:07:47 12 25
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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21/01/2021 12:08:59 19 13
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:11:24 3 2
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A casual investor, by any chance?
What do you have against teachers?
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Cue gammons like you whining... Removed
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21/01/2021 12:40:03 3 1
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Logically, you are more likely to catch covid, the more people you are exposed to. That's why lockdowns work, and I don't see how anyone can argue against that. But there are certain professions that have to just get on with it. Imagine if Nurses and Doctors felt they shouldn't have to work, or shopworkers. We are in this together, and it feels like it's only the teachers unions complaining.
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21/01/2021 12:50:05 1 2
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Cue union haters whining about unions for doing what their members pay them for.
Thatcher is dead and so are industries with the unions she hated so much.
How's about joining the 21st (or even 20th) century and accepting that workers deserve some rights.
As a school worker with no union I am forced to work in these petri-dish schools or go without pay. I wish I had someone to repreresent me.
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21/01/2021 13:18:28 2 1
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I'm failing to see what the unions have said that has been such a whine tbh! You make it sound like they just whine and complain but all the documentation and releases I've seen from them appear to be fair, well considered, balanced and aimed at trying to get the best for students while also protecting their members. There appears to be a lot of stereotyping where unions are concerned.
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21/01/2021 12:07:57 13 40
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Schools should be open right now.
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21/01/2021 12:10:04 6 7
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Yeah, right.
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21/01/2021 12:15:12 7 4
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They are! For key workers children. They’re getting an education, obviously you missed your chance to.
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21/01/2021 12:24:39 6 2
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They are open. I’m sitting in one right now. We have 40% of our pupils in. Our teachers (I’m not one and I’m on my 30min lunch break before you ask) have to provide a full day of learning for them and either 3 or 4 hours, depending on Key Stage, for the children that are remote learning. How’s your maths? Because I make that 8.5 hours+ per day.
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21/01/2021 12:37:12 4 2
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Schools ARE actually open and teachers are working very hard, both at home and in schools!
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21/01/2021 13:24:08 3 2
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Me... looking around my school building on my lunch break confused! How am I here?
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21/01/2021 13:29:28 2 2
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ALL schools should be FULLY open, right now.
21/01/2021 16:44:03 1 1
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Still open and functioning. Please be assured of this
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21/01/2021 12:08:05 35 9
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You know that stock brokers often make money by betting against the casual investor because 90% of casual investors lose their money.

I'm thinking we should apply the same principle to Mr Williamson.
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21/01/2021 12:05:23 463 72
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Why is Gavin Williamson still in a job ????

Anyone else that incompetent would have been sacked by now.
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21/01/2021 12:08:31 45 7
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As a former Chief Whip he knows where the bodies are buried.
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21/01/2021 12:07:47 12 25
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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21/01/2021 12:08:59 19 13
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:10:55 6 7
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Wheres the data to prove teachers are catching covid off pupils and dying please?
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21/01/2021 12:12:08 9 6
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Show me the statistics that say they are more at risk... Oh yes, there aren't any.
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21/01/2021 12:13:15 8 9
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No. The point I am making is that, no matter what is suggested, the unions complain about it.
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 3 4
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Irrefutable proof please
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21/01/2021 12:40:01 3 1
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Are you happy for Hospital , Shop , Utility , Police, Delivery workers etc. to not only be at high risk of catching covid, but also need to sacfrifice partners income or lose jobs (need 2 critical workers to get kids in School)?

I completely get teachers concerns and understand why Schools are closed, but you are not the only, nor the worst affected by the Pandemic.
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21/01/2021 12:09:10 22 26
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Just waiting for the unions to say, that’s not enough time
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21/01/2021 12:10:49 26 15
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I bet YOU wouldn't have the guts to be a teacher.
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21/01/2021 12:13:53 4 9
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Pathetic comment. Hate your old teacher for telling you off do you?
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21/01/2021 12:25:02 0 2
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This government frightened of the unions really. Thatcher must be turning her grave.
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Schools should be open right now.
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21/01/2021 12:10:04 6 7
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Yeah, right.
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21/01/2021 12:10:36 30 23
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Get ready for the next U-turn. No prizes for guessing.
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21/01/2021 12:18:22 17 7
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Go on - tell us.
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21/01/2021 12:29:09 6 2
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Please, I am waiting
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21/01/2021 12:09:10 22 26
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Just waiting for the unions to say, that’s not enough time
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21/01/2021 12:10:49 26 15
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I bet YOU wouldn't have the guts to be a teacher.
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21/01/2021 12:13:10 12 6
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25 years worth of experience thank you very much and you?
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21/01/2021 12:15:10 9 7
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I work with kids. However as I'm not in a cushy unionised public sector roll I'm receiving zero special treatment. Techers should appreciate the position they're in.
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21/01/2021 12:22:55 5 8
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Since when did it take guts to be a teacher? Lots of jobs take 'guts' to do but a teacher is not one of them! Have respect for people that really do put their lives on the line every day.
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21/01/2021 12:08:59 19 13
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:10:55 6 7
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Wheres the data to prove teachers are catching covid off pupils and dying please?
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21/01/2021 12:14:31 14 4
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Data has been released today that proves teachers were more likely to catch COVID. Plenty of evidence out there if you want to look. I’m guessing that you don’t like the idea of being wrong so chances of you looking are slim.
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21/01/2021 12:29:46 2 1
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Where is the data that is the problem you must have noticed this Government is very economical with the truth and statistics. Its not just teachers its their families who are exposed.
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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A casual investor, by any chance?
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PJ
21/01/2021 12:11:51 9 12
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What a mess. I think I might deregister my children and educate them at home until all this is over. Too much uncertainty and anxiety to expect youngsters to cope with. A stable, normal environment is what will help them get through it and do well in eduaction, not being in school at all costs.
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21/01/2021 12:31:23 1 1
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Well apparently with the "quality" twinkl and oak education they've got it covered seems that's all the so-called "teaching" one of our kids is getting.
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21/01/2021 12:38:50 1 1
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Much better education for your child. So it comes first not the rest. Whether a school is available or not. In time only the very poorest will have to use schools as a last 'workhouse' like resort of the very poorest of worst parents.
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21/01/2021 12:08:59 19 13
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:12:08 9 6
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Show me the statistics that say they are more at risk... Oh yes, there aren't any.
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21/01/2021 12:30:33 3 0
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Lack of statistics is hardly evidence. Lots of statistics would be evidence.
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21/01/2021 21:45:09 1 1
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bit.ly/35UzfWp
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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Bob
21/01/2021 12:15:56 83 16
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Yes you can easily decouple it from the other measures implemented at the same time such as gyms closing, pubs closing, restaurants closing, leisure activities closing, people being told to work from home, shops only open for collection and so on.
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21/01/2021 12:16:30 24 14
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And people like you are happy to throw the younger generation under the bus now you've got your useless degree in Sociology.

I think it's appaling how young people have been treated just to give people in old folks homes an extra couple of months of life.

Perhaps I'm odd....dunno.
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21/01/2021 12:17:55 13 3
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Nothing to do with is all being in lockdown then?
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21/01/2021 12:20:26 6 4
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Ah, right then. So keep schools closed and reopen society as a whole is your answer? Something tells me that will not work! But well done you.
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21/01/2021 12:20:30 18 11
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Piffle virus ran rampant when the schools were closed for the Christmas holidays. No surge in cases when they were reopened in September either. Never let the truth get in the way of a good rumour though.
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21/01/2021 12:25:13 16 5
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Yes, because the only change on the 4th of January was that schools closed, in fact schools closed on 18th of December and cases kept going up. So it seems something is happening that is not schools.
Who'd have thought it.
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21/01/2021 12:28:13 6 2
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So, other measures made no difference then?
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21/01/2021 12:47:49 6 5
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So we've proved none of this was to do wit the hospitality or entertainment sectors which were operating VERY SAFELY (far safer than supermarkets or schools etc.)

Open those business back up and stop arbitrarily punishing/blaming them.
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21/01/2021 13:08:23 3 2
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Not entirely true: The schools reopened in September and stayed open until Christmas. That's almost 4 months and for most of that time Covid infections were relatively low. Children may be super spreaders, but most of the people they spread the virus to are low risk. The answer is to vaccinate teachers as a priority (a no brainer) and shield and support those who are at risk from covid.
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21/01/2021 14:21:35 4 1
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I disagree. I find it extraordinary that everyone seems to have forgotten the government's refusal to put London in an appropriate tier last autumn... Tier 2 for London?? They really were having a laugh. This is surely the major reason we are in this state now. If London schools go back first, as suggested yesterday, this really will be the absolute height of gross incompetence and unfairness.
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21/01/2021 14:29:01 4 0
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"It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes."

Schools open - 2nd Sept - 17 days later cases had rocketed up by nearly 52k.
Schools closed - 19th Dec - 17 days later cases "receded" only growing by nearly 710k that's nearly 14x faster.

So no-one thought it because the it isn't true.

The figures are on Worldometer you can look them up yourself.
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21/01/2021 14:49:57 1 1
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Absolute tosh. How can you link this to just schools when national restrictions tightened at the same time? It's spreads in all walks of life, not least in workplaces where folk are together too long or don't give two hoots. As to the virus receding - do you know something we don't? It may be down slightly, but the reductions of the last few days are not a big enough sample to get happy about.
22/01/2021 15:42:28 0 0
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Yes, children transmit the virus to each other and take it home to their families.
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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What do you have against teachers?
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I bet YOU wouldn't have the guts to be a teacher.
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25 years worth of experience thank you very much and you?
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:13:15 8 9
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No. The point I am making is that, no matter what is suggested, the unions complain about it.
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21/01/2021 12:31:28 2 2
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Union's role is to look for the best for their members. It is what the 1922 committee do everyday.
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Just waiting for the unions to say, that’s not enough time
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21/01/2021 12:13:53 4 9
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Pathetic comment. Hate your old teacher for telling you off do you?
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21/01/2021 12:16:43 4 8
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Not nearly as pathetic as yours
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21/01/2021 12:33:41 3 1
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Pathetic comment? If Teachers don't like the negative press then they possibly should to talk to THEIR Unions about how, in representing you, they seem to generate so much negative press.

People do appreciate the work Teachers do but balots for strike action during a pandemic, where others are losing jobs or in similar/worse working conditions, will always reflect badly.
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Why is Gavin Williamson still in a job ????

Anyone else that incompetent would have been sacked by now.
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21/01/2021 12:14:09 63 13
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Well, look at who his boss is. BoJo isn't 'competent' except as an after dinner speaker, he won't demand competence from his minions.
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Wheres the data to prove teachers are catching covid off pupils and dying please?
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Data has been released today that proves teachers were more likely to catch COVID. Plenty of evidence out there if you want to look. I’m guessing that you don’t like the idea of being wrong so chances of you looking are slim.
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21/01/2021 12:21:27 4 4
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And there is plenty of data to suggest that they are not more likely to contract COVID
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21/01/2021 12:29:03 5 1
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More likely to catch covid when compared to sitting at home... yes, of course.
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21/01/2021 12:15:04 50 43
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Err, any one with common sense listening to Gavin Williams on the Today Program would almost certainly saw through his lies and contemptuous comments. Why are the Tories such blatant liars?
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What exactly was he lying about?
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21/01/2021 12:24:19 9 9
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So incompetent that he doesn’t seem to know that if you must tell lies then do so with confidence
Not the rambling replies that I heard on Radio 4 this morning
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21/01/2021 12:26:18 12 4
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Lied about what exactly?
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21/01/2021 12:27:30 14 8
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Name a politician of any colour who does not liar on a daily basis!
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21/01/2021 12:40:29 8 6
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They have had plenty of practice and they get away with it because their mates own the papers.
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because they've had years of practice?
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21/01/2021 13:33:40 4 0
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This is another ready made anti-Tory rant with only a weak attempt to link it to the article.
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21/01/2021 13:35:08 4 0
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It's funny that people think lying politicians are unique to the Conservatives. I have no love for ANY political party, but so far I don't think any Conservatives have started an illegal war and then lied about it, but we'll gloss over that.
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I bet YOU wouldn't have the guts to be a teacher.
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21/01/2021 12:15:10 9 7
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I work with kids. However as I'm not in a cushy unionised public sector roll I'm receiving zero special treatment. Techers should appreciate the position they're in.
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21/01/2021 12:26:26 2 1
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You must have had a hard time at school I can see this from your hubris and spelling.
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Schools should be open right now.
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21/01/2021 12:15:12 7 4
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They are! For key workers children. They’re getting an education, obviously you missed your chance to.
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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21/01/2021 12:15:37 10 13
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If they have no plan to open schools for the foreseeable future can they just tell us, it’s horrible offering hope to a child and then dashing it again (they do hear the news).
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Bob
21/01/2021 12:19:52 23 2
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Care to inform us how many cases, deaths and hospitalisations there will be on the 26th February, 6th March, 19th April?

Apparently it is reasonable to know this, and therefore what measures and rules and places will be open for business on those dates?
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21/01/2021 12:24:50 11 0
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certainly, just you tell them the infection rates and available NHS beds over the next 6 months and they will tell you when all restrictions will ease

ahhh, now you see the problem?
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And cue teaching unions whining...
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MVP
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Two weeks notice of opening is better than the one day notice of closing after being open for one day at the start of this month. How uncharacteristic
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It is immensely uncharacteristic to have thought about the lives and needs of people other than themselves, their donors, and what culture war issues will push the buttons of their supporters. I'm guessing it was a civil servant's idea.
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21/01/2021 13:18:09 4 6
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But the message will be 'two weeks ago we should have announced the return to school that is happening tomorrow.'
21/01/2021 21:22:21 0 0
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Closed Schools
I thought the majority of schools are open , I know most of my local schools are open , fully staffed , in such cases class sizes running at over 50% , so this notion that schools are closed is a fallacy.
Two weeks notice , to reopen laughable . They ARE OPEN
Parents can be informed on Friday that those children who are home schooling will be expected. To return Monday morning.
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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Bob
21/01/2021 12:15:56 83 16
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Yes you can easily decouple it from the other measures implemented at the same time such as gyms closing, pubs closing, restaurants closing, leisure activities closing, people being told to work from home, shops only open for collection and so on.
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21/01/2021 13:34:57 1 3
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All those things happened in Tier 4 Bob - it was only schools closing that really changed and hey presto - reducing transmission.
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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21/01/2021 12:16:30 24 14
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And people like you are happy to throw the younger generation under the bus now you've got your useless degree in Sociology.

I think it's appaling how young people have been treated just to give people in old folks homes an extra couple of months of life.

Perhaps I'm odd....dunno.
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21/01/2021 12:35:00 20 9
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Add to that, a significant % of workers (those with children) are working F-T AND schooling children and it is not sustainable.

I couldn't care less about the downvotes I'll get or the cries of "school isn't a babysitting service". I'm working 60+ hour weeks and paying £30k+ tax a year. Something has to give as I can't carry on like this. You want my tax, then educate my child so I can work!!!
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21/01/2021 12:52:17 7 5
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Yes to condemn someone an early death so someone else might not be inconvenienced, I'd call that odd.
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21/01/2021 13:28:57 1 1
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Correct spelling of appaling [sic]...?
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21/01/2021 13:38:20 2 1
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the hospitals are full of relatively young people who refuse to die like the oldies and require treatment. If it was just down to quick deaths I think the younger generation would be in school. But pictures of overrun hospitals are not allowed.

And of course we have paid for OUR NHS through taxes so quite rightly expect it to work when we need it when we can't breathe.
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21/01/2021 12:13:53 4 9
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Pathetic comment. Hate your old teacher for telling you off do you?
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21/01/2021 12:16:43 4 8
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Not nearly as pathetic as yours
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
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21/01/2021 12:21:05 55 6
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I don't necessarily disagree with your comment, though the Union represents the teachers, if it's not representig them then the teachers need to change that.
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21/01/2021 12:22:45 24 13
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The unions did not close schools the Government did. If the teacher's unions are so powerful then why are teachers so poorly paid? The most powerful union is the 1922 committee.
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21/01/2021 12:23:27 18 18
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Absolutely. Schools should be open & I believe most teachers would be happy with that as it's best for the children and means teachers aren't split in half with up to 50% of pupils in school & rest trying to learn from home. Teachers around here have never come across as wanting schools closed or complaining when asked to open.

The unions do a disservice to teachers working hard in a tough job.
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21/01/2021 12:23:35 18 12
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That’s why I left the union, they caused more trouble than it was worth
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21/01/2021 12:28:20 15 7
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I think given Williamson's lack of ability to organise the proverbial in a brewery, the teaching unions have in the main been correct.
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21/01/2021 13:20:07 11 4
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Totally agree! As a headteacher, I have seen many comments from unions, including my own, who throw around comments without actually consulting us. Their stance is often misinterpreted as our own which is totally wrong.
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21/01/2021 13:23:07 3 5
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Also why didn't the unions provide schools with with visors, face masks etc instead expecting the government to pay, . After all they are suppose to protect their members. They could also donate some of funds to help the poor children with online learning. Lots of schools had on line learning ready incase pupils had to self isolate they could switch to on line learning the next day.
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21/01/2021 13:33:28 2 3
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What a uninformed numpty.
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21/01/2021 14:56:59 3 1
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Unions complaining?! Surely not!
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21/01/2021 12:08:59 19 13
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So you're happy for teachers to catch Covid off pupils and die are you ?
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 3 4
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Irrefutable proof please
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21/01/2021 12:31:15 3 1
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They're not even measuring it...how convenient
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21/01/2021 12:34:55 1 2
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bjbristol, why is it with every post I see of yours, do you come across as being very immature? Also 25 years experience of what? Certainly not teaching, were you by any chance a janitor?
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21/01/2021 12:15:04 50 43
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Err, any one with common sense listening to Gavin Williams on the Today Program would almost certainly saw through his lies and contemptuous comments. Why are the Tories such blatant liars?
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 34 19
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What exactly was he lying about?
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21/01/2021 12:23:35 9 19
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About exams. The Tories are fanatical about examinations. So far as they're concerned you are only worthy if you pass exams. Continuous assessments and course work is in their book a way to cheat. To be honest, the exam system is biased to wrote learners. Just because you can recite Kiplin word for word, doesn't make you intelligent. Case in point BoJo know Kiplin, but not when to use it.
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21/01/2021 12:23:46 6 11
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Everything: the provision of computers and routers for example.
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21/01/2021 12:54:05 5 11
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Nearly all of what he says is lies as the tories can't seem to understand evidence, provide leadership/strategy or plan hence they are always on the defensive because they won't admit any mistakes.
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21/01/2021 12:44:44 3 8
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Easier to ask what he wasn't lying about.
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21/01/2021 13:32:36 2 5
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Everything Homer.
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21/01/2021 12:17:28 8 4
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Two weeks to catch up on homework :-)
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21/01/2021 12:17:41 107 52
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Schools need to open as soon as possible - shut click &collect, playgrounds, etc if necessary.

Children are not getting the same education at home, with the poorest struggling most.

Many parents are still working full time from home.

Children's mental health has taken a battering.

Lots of schools up to 50% full anyway!

Also currently no fines for parents keeping kids home if they want anyway!
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21/01/2021 12:33:38 74 20
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Schools *will* open as soon as possible. As soon as possible being when this virus is under control.
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21/01/2021 12:44:19 7 3
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what has click and collect to do with Schools opening? everyone's mental health is challenged at the moment. Yes many parents are working full time from home, and can send their kids to school if they fit into the "essential worker" bracket, which is why we have school 50% full.
Do you want to fine worried parents? I don't think that is the way forward at all. The Gov. would get a kicking
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21/01/2021 12:53:37 11 5
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Mmmm. Schools are important aren't they! Maybe they should start paying staff appropriately.
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CJR
21/01/2021 13:36:51 7 3
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Open the schools after Easter and keep them open until the autumn for kids to catch up, and then see if the vaccine is working before deciding on the winter opening.
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21/01/2021 14:16:08 7 4
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Absolutely agree. This government is failing a generation of children and young people through their lack of education provision.
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21/01/2021 14:18:27 7 4
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You obviously don’t work in a school then. I do and it’s had to be shut this week due to 7 members of staff and lord only knows how many kids tested positive last week. But like Boris has said schools are safe
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21/01/2021 14:45:58 0 1
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It simple, if you want school open you must vaccinate staff.
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21/01/2021 15:05:08 1 5
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Fgs the mental health rubbish.there was none of that in 2 world wars kids are bought up and snow flakes how days
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why
21/01/2021 15:10:25 1 0
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There are many groups suffering already- so you propose locking everything down indefinitely and just having schools open
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21/01/2021 15:29:34 3 1
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So throw the teachers back to the wolves? Despite evidence they're 2 to 3 times more likely to contract Covid than the average worker? If it gets the kids out from your feet, so be it?
Lot's of schools 50% full is a poor excuse to exacerbate the situation.
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21/01/2021 16:03:09 2 0
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Schools will open when it is safe. No to pander to idiots who forget they are super spreaders and would rather have schools open than saving people’s health and lives
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21/01/2021 12:12:53 151 67
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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21/01/2021 12:17:55 13 3
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Nothing to do with is all being in lockdown then?
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21/01/2021 12:10:36 30 23
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Get ready for the next U-turn. No prizes for guessing.
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21/01/2021 12:18:22 17 7
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Go on - tell us.
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21/01/2021 13:36:23 0 2
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The vaccination targets for start Homer.
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21/01/2021 12:15:37 10 13
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If they have no plan to open schools for the foreseeable future can they just tell us, it’s horrible offering hope to a child and then dashing it again (they do hear the news).
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Bob
21/01/2021 12:19:52 23 2
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Care to inform us how many cases, deaths and hospitalisations there will be on the 26th February, 6th March, 19th April?

Apparently it is reasonable to know this, and therefore what measures and rules and places will be open for business on those dates?
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21/01/2021 12:20:02 82 30
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Two weeks notice of opening.

And 10 minutes notice of closing again.
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21/01/2021 12:39:42 49 15
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maybe, but covid is an unpredictable thing at the moment, mutating and being generally naughty, it should be in detention.
21/01/2021 16:41:31 2 0
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Or would you prefer them to give two weeks' notice of closing and then the hand wringing and bleating of it was too slow again? Situations change. People need to accept the need for dynamic reaction, not reaction by consultation.
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21/01/2021 12:20:16 22 23
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Speaking of two weeks notice, good on piers Morgan for being the voice of the people and demanding Williamson’s resignation this morning. That is how you question them bbc, not your toadying up of allowing a Tory party political broadcast uninterrupted before thanking them for their time.

It also means they are at home into February at least, and probably longer
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21/01/2021 12:24:35 10 1
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Morgan is only the voice of Morgan and his over inflated ego.
What a bag of hot air and I ain't talking about Piers.
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21/01/2021 12:41:04 7 1
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Piers Morgan is the voice of no one but himself. The guy is a complete idiot
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21/01/2021 12:12:53 151 67
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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21/01/2021 12:20:26 6 4
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Ah, right then. So keep schools closed and reopen society as a whole is your answer? Something tells me that will not work! But well done you.
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21/01/2021 12:12:53 151 67
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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21/01/2021 12:20:30 18 11
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Piffle virus ran rampant when the schools were closed for the Christmas holidays. No surge in cases when they were reopened in September either. Never let the truth get in the way of a good rumour though.
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21/01/2021 13:40:13 0 1
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writing it does not make it so old bean.
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
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21/01/2021 12:21:05 55 6
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I don't necessarily disagree with your comment, though the Union represents the teachers, if it's not representig them then the teachers need to change that.
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21/01/2021 12:21:24 193 45
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The constant call for certainty from supposedly educated people, in the press, the education sector and the opposition has made me laugh from the beginning. How can you have certainty around a pandemic that is by its very nature, uncertain in many, many ways. I know people like to use the words U-turn. Its almost become a cliché, but to me it simply highlights their unrealistic expectations.
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21/01/2021 12:25:50 118 36
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I don't disagree, however there are numerous instances where the evidence is clear that schools should close, or not re-open based on science and data (rising cases) and everyone can see this apart from Gavin Williamson it would seem....
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21/01/2021 12:38:20 17 0
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It is a political trick where you ask for certainty from the government and if they don’t offer certainty they complain about how businesses and teachers need certainty to plan. If the government say we are going to open schools etc on a certain date and they don’t they can accuse the government of a U turn
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21/01/2021 12:56:05 4 7
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Who knew there would be a winter spike? Totally unpredictable.
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21/01/2021 13:05:36 11 4
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Could not agree more. They are not looking for certainty, they are looking for advanced notice to give them time to scupper any plans. Whilst the government could have done better, it is obvious what Labour is up to.
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21/01/2021 13:30:49 2 10
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Certainty would have been possible with a working a test and trace system but as with all Boris' dodgy covid deals it was a con.
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21/01/2021 13:31:23 7 2
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The calls for 'certainty' are of course politically motivated. if the opposition were in power, they would be doing no better.
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21/01/2021 13:32:00 10 1
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It's because the easiest thing in the world to do, is to criticise someone else, especially with the benefit of hindsight. Unfortunately HYS has a population of people that would be happy for (and hope) this country to turn to ashes, purely to be able to say "I told you so."
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21/01/2021 13:34:01 3 7
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I agree that certainty is almost impossible to achieve, however, Williamson like the rest of the cabinet is hamstrung by a PM who has constantly promised certainty throughout the pandemic. This over promising and under delivering is perhaps part of the reason why we are in such a mess in this country.
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21/01/2021 13:36:28 3 8
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It's very rich (I won't say 'it made me laugh when we're approaching 100,00 deaths) to hear from a Tory about our unrealistic expectations when we're promised a 'world-beating' test and trace system and the virus will be gone in twelve weeks/September/Christmas..............................
21/01/2021 17:10:33 2 0
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Have you noticed how the BBC refer to any change that the government makes is referred to as a U-Turn, but if anyone else makes a change its a due to a "reassessment of circumstances". Those who call for the government to change then accuse them of a U-Turn when they do. Pure politics.
21/01/2021 18:08:07 1 1
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There is a certain amount of baiting, but it was the PM himself who led himself into making unrealistic predictions (or 'lies') with the pandemic, and Brexit.

I think the public, and journalists, have just had enough of the drivel the Govt spouts in lieu of something vaguely resembling a strategy.
21/01/2021 18:10:58 1 1
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Many of the u-turns have been if their own making. Recent examples include Christmas bubbles and 'kids need to go back to school' then sending them back For. One. Day.

It's epic mismanagement, and Williamson makes Frank Spencer look educated.
TC
21/01/2021 18:42:49 0 1
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Some people were certain from the beginning that the government's response to the epidemic would lead to debacle; we didn't realise how bad it would become. The measures cannot bring the epidemic to a halt; natural progression will do that. On-the-fly micromanagement based on 'scientific' opinion rather than consolidated knowledge in communicable disease control has led to disaster.
21/01/2021 21:49:09 0 1
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'Certainty' does not automatically mean a specific date.
The public have lost confidence in this government because it does not seem to be following a coherent policy.
If there is one, ministers aren't telling people about it.
So, is it number of cases? Numbers in hospital? The R-number? The national debt? Boris' popularity level?
What figures have been set?
Or is it 'flying by seat of the pants'?
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22/01/2021 19:11:22 0 0
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Honestly I absolutely hate the press, BBC, Sky, and in particular Kay Burley ! the whole bloody lot are self-serving self- publicists with nothing to say
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21/01/2021 12:14:31 14 4
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Data has been released today that proves teachers were more likely to catch COVID. Plenty of evidence out there if you want to look. I’m guessing that you don’t like the idea of being wrong so chances of you looking are slim.
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21/01/2021 12:21:27 4 4
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And there is plenty of data to suggest that they are not more likely to contract COVID
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21/01/2021 12:32:32 0 2
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Which evidence where can it be seen?
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21/01/2021 12:20:16 22 23
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Speaking of two weeks notice, good on piers Morgan for being the voice of the people and demanding Williamson’s resignation this morning. That is how you question them bbc, not your toadying up of allowing a Tory party political broadcast uninterrupted before thanking them for their time.

It also means they are at home into February at least, and probably longer
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
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21/01/2021 12:22:45 24 13
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The unions did not close schools the Government did. If the teacher's unions are so powerful then why are teachers so poorly paid? The most powerful union is the 1922 committee.
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21/01/2021 12:35:26 11 33
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Teachers are hugely paid stop with the union's nonsense. It needs cutting not increasing.
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21/01/2021 12:46:11 12 17
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They aren't poorly paid. And unions moaned and moaned and moaned, so I assume it's members didn't want to be at school which sort of forces the Gov's hand.
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21/01/2021 12:22:50 6 16
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Covid has a high survival rate 95% (ish)
You may catch Covid but chances are you will be fine.
This applies to everyone, its not the certain death sentence the media make out.
Obviously vulnerable groups and the aged need protecting, if teachers/children fit into these groups then protect them, if not open the schools.
The long term impact of this lockdown is going to be horrific on many children.
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21/01/2021 12:32:47 3 1
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Horrific, having a wonderful time. Those with good parents getting a much better education. Only the social engineering interference is suffering.
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21/01/2021 12:35:57 1 0
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I agree with the sentiment, and if covid was not transmissible outside of that group when they leave school grounds would entirely agree, but it isn't. people that are not in their group will also come into contact with them, and for some it IS a death sentence. So unfortunately it is a complex balancing act. Not one I envy the Government having to perform, which is why direction changes happen.
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21/01/2021 12:48:53 1 0
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It's been clear since day one, the measures in place are to prevent overloading hospitals which would result in significant additional deaths.

You hear what you want to hear
Parents should get their money/ taxes/ fees back for the period from March 23rd of the 2020. This is not education. This is a sheer farce.
Same with NI contributions for NHS.
No service - no contributions. Mickymouse online appointments, not responding to emails, phone calls, letters, postponing appointments, treatments is not a health service. It's a mockery. Completely unprepared.
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21/01/2021 12:26:19 5 7
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Had to quit my job to home educate as schools pitiful PDF education just doesn't cut it.
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Tim
21/01/2021 12:27:17 7 0
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Note that people without children also pay for schools
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21/01/2021 12:27:40 8 0
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Why parents? Every tax payer pays for the education of the kids, even those who do not have any. So by your logic those who don't have any kids should pay less tax yes?
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21/01/2021 12:29:26 3 0
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Sounds like you are having a really good day. Keep smiling!
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21/01/2021 12:10:49 26 15
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I bet YOU wouldn't have the guts to be a teacher.
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21/01/2021 12:22:55 5 8
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Since when did it take guts to be a teacher? Lots of jobs take 'guts' to do but a teacher is not one of them! Have respect for people that really do put their lives on the line every day.
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21/01/2021 12:27:38 2 1
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So how much experience have you had in teaching in an inner city school.
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21/01/2021 12:23:15 13 31
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GOOD GOD - THESE TEACHERS AND STARMER JUST CAN'T STOP WHINGING,CAN THEY???? First we find a cure and then we roll it out on a red carpet. JUST GET ON WITH IT AND STOP COMPLAINING!! WOW I'M SO ANGRY.
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21/01/2021 12:26:40 15 6
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Did your teachers not teach you not to write in capitals?
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21/01/2021 12:28:23 4 1
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Calm down dear, and you seem to be randomly pressing CAPS LOCK and various punctuation keys, are you leaning on something?
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21/01/2021 12:29:29 3 3
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Maybe because they're affraid? And have a union with the balls to protect them?
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21/01/2021 12:36:17 2 1
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Did a teacher upset you when you were at school. Calm down think (I use the term loosely) about your blood pressure and general health.
GOOD GOD - THESE UNION HATERS CAN'T STOP WHINGING AND SHOUTING, CAN THEY???
Are you OK hun? Does people being looked after by others make you so angry? Why? Is it because they're not doing what you told then to? Naughty teachers!
N Korea is a much more obedient place, ever thought of a holiday?
PS It was the Starmer mention that got the ToryBot alarm going...
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
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21/01/2021 12:23:27 18 18
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Absolutely. Schools should be open & I believe most teachers would be happy with that as it's best for the children and means teachers aren't split in half with up to 50% of pupils in school & rest trying to learn from home. Teachers around here have never come across as wanting schools closed or complaining when asked to open.

The unions do a disservice to teachers working hard in a tough job.
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21/01/2021 12:48:32 4 11
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you could have left it as " The Unions do a disservice" once they were relevant and helped carve out workers rights, now they appear to be self serving egomaniacs without too much concern for realism or their members.
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 34 19
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What exactly was he lying about?
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21/01/2021 12:23:35 9 19
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About exams. The Tories are fanatical about examinations. So far as they're concerned you are only worthy if you pass exams. Continuous assessments and course work is in their book a way to cheat. To be honest, the exam system is biased to wrote learners. Just because you can recite Kiplin word for word, doesn't make you intelligent. Case in point BoJo know Kiplin, but not when to use it.
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21/01/2021 13:36:18 2 0
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Kiplin? Wasn’t he a Russian civil war general?
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
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21/01/2021 12:23:35 18 12
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That’s why I left the union, they caused more trouble than it was worth
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21/01/2021 13:33:50 2 3
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Then do make sure you have public liability insurance and personal indemnity insurance too...
I’m no leftist but unions and professional associations do have a place...
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21/01/2021 12:23:45 15 26
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Will not satisfy the teachers and their unions, just waiting for the complaints from them, they will soon be demanding at least 2 months notice so that their social life is not distributed to much.
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Jay
21/01/2021 12:29:30 9 7
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Please check your spelling and wording before you criticise anyone working in education.
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21/01/2021 12:50:01 0 1
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Social life? Erm...?
22/01/2021 21:32:31 0 0
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No we won't
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 34 19
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What exactly was he lying about?
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21/01/2021 12:23:46 6 11
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Everything: the provision of computers and routers for example.
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21/01/2021 12:24:04 13 12
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Two weeks is a long time in politics.

Bojo will announce something then do a U-turn.
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21/01/2021 12:15:04 50 43
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Err, any one with common sense listening to Gavin Williams on the Today Program would almost certainly saw through his lies and contemptuous comments. Why are the Tories such blatant liars?
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21/01/2021 12:24:19 9 9
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So incompetent that he doesn’t seem to know that if you must tell lies then do so with confidence
Not the rambling replies that I heard on Radio 4 this morning
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21/01/2021 12:20:16 22 23
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Speaking of two weeks notice, good on piers Morgan for being the voice of the people and demanding Williamson’s resignation this morning. That is how you question them bbc, not your toadying up of allowing a Tory party political broadcast uninterrupted before thanking them for their time.

It also means they are at home into February at least, and probably longer
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21/01/2021 12:24:35 10 1
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Morgan is only the voice of Morgan and his over inflated ego.
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21/01/2021 12:13:10 12 6
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25 years worth of experience thank you very much and you?
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21/01/2021 12:07:57 13 40
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Schools should be open right now.
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21/01/2021 12:24:39 6 2
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They are open. I’m sitting in one right now. We have 40% of our pupils in. Our teachers (I’m not one and I’m on my 30min lunch break before you ask) have to provide a full day of learning for them and either 3 or 4 hours, depending on Key Stage, for the children that are remote learning. How’s your maths? Because I make that 8.5 hours+ per day.
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21/01/2021 12:35:43 1 4
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40% all day every day, or 40% of kids attending at least 1 day a week? I hear these type of statistics a lot, but am sceptical. Our kids school only lets keyworkers children in on the days the keyworkers are actually working. It's 1 day a week in our case. It's almost like the figures get inflated to make a point. And as for providing 3 or 4 hours a day when remote learning. Not in my kids school.
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21/01/2021 12:15:37 10 13
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If they have no plan to open schools for the foreseeable future can they just tell us, it’s horrible offering hope to a child and then dashing it again (they do hear the news).
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21/01/2021 12:24:50 11 0
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certainly, just you tell them the infection rates and available NHS beds over the next 6 months and they will tell you when all restrictions will ease

ahhh, now you see the problem?
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21/01/2021 12:09:10 22 26
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Just waiting for the unions to say, that’s not enough time
65
21/01/2021 12:25:02 0 2
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This government frightened of the unions really. Thatcher must be turning her grave.
214
21/01/2021 12:59:56 1 0
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Trying to work with a different body, such as unions is what is required to make the best of a very very bad situation. Whatever decision you take will upset a lot of people either way.
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21/01/2021 12:12:53 151 67
bbc
It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
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21/01/2021 12:25:13 16 5
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Yes, because the only change on the 4th of January was that schools closed, in fact schools closed on 18th of December and cases kept going up. So it seems something is happening that is not schools.
Who'd have thought it.
190
21/01/2021 12:54:17 2 0
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it was part of a lot of measures, which also take a few weeks to come through the reporting numbers. So the point n isolation does have some validity, but certainly the major factor is the near national lockdown
687
21/01/2021 14:43:44 1 2
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You are lacking a basic understanding of this virus. Children would have been passing the virus back to the household up to and including the 18th. There is then a substantial (and variable) incubation period prior to symptoms and then testing positive. The decrease in infections (dropping like a stone now in the SE especially) is in line with the schools being closed.
67
21/01/2021 12:25:31 36 28
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Williamson should go....he's flip flopped and U turned so many times....he must be dizzy.

The distress and upset this has caused students and the teaching profession has been immense.

The Welsh and the Scots announced very early (think it was October/November last year) that pupils would not be sitting exams.

All we've had from Williamson is dither and delay.

Not fit for purpose.
104
21/01/2021 12:33:33 24 31
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What rubbish
369
21/01/2021 13:32:29 2 0
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So you think that Swinney has done a good job in Scotland?
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JWG
21/01/2021 14:14:48 1 2
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Haven't you spotted it yet? Nobody in the Brexit cult Tory party gets fired
46
21/01/2021 12:21:24 193 45
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The constant call for certainty from supposedly educated people, in the press, the education sector and the opposition has made me laugh from the beginning. How can you have certainty around a pandemic that is by its very nature, uncertain in many, many ways. I know people like to use the words U-turn. Its almost become a cliché, but to me it simply highlights their unrealistic expectations.
68
21/01/2021 12:25:50 118 36
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I don't disagree, however there are numerous instances where the evidence is clear that schools should close, or not re-open based on science and data (rising cases) and everyone can see this apart from Gavin Williamson it would seem....
122
21/01/2021 12:37:25 17 1
bbc
You make it sound as if it is his decision to close or open the schools. Of course it isn't. He is an educational figure head. He has certain leeway but not the power to close or open schools without permission. That is decided by the cabinet as a whole who have to balance far more factors than simply the control of COVID.
124
21/01/2021 12:37:58 8 3
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I do agree he seems particularly out of his depth. I also agree with the original poster that it's a tough world they are trying to carve a path through. Not easy for anyone, except Captain Hindsight of course.
550
21/01/2021 14:07:47 3 0
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And yet there were howls of derision from the opposition and the media that the children (especially the underprivileged) were losing out when schools are shut because children don't get sick with Covid

So is it the welfare of children or the elderly we prioritise in this pandemic?
591
21/01/2021 14:22:51 7 1
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And yet Starmer, having pushed to close, now pushing to open. The man is just about scoring cheap political points and unhelpful in putting everyone that is actually doing the work, including teachers, under pressure!
69
21/01/2021 12:26:08 153 52
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Get the teachers vaccinated now , so the kids can go back to school at the earliest possible juncture. Use the 24-7 vaccine slots in the early hours to achieve it.

Children are suffering long term damage, their well being needs to be a major priority.
85
21/01/2021 12:29:12 52 197
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They would only complain about having to get up
91
21/01/2021 12:30:18 18 26
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Teachers are not the issue they do not matter. Schooling is a mass cramming of a heard together in confined spaces to catch and spread a virus. Practically designed for it. It is not remotely a staff issue.
172
21/01/2021 12:48:59 10 2
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A good idea, however the issue is possibly one of vaccine supply.
288
21/01/2021 12:55:04 39 3
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Teacher here! I’d gladly get up for my vaccine in the dead of night of offered and all the other school staff I know would too.
I wonder if vaccinated school staff would help the issue hugely anyway though, as it still wouldn’t prevent the spread between children, who then take it home to their families, which is absolutely happening regardless of any politicians telling you otherwise.
388
21/01/2021 13:35:47 4 3
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And exactly how do you stop the children spreading the virus to each other and onward to each other's families?
You really don't have a clue do you Portnoy.
562
21/01/2021 14:11:59 7 0
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All very well vaccinating the teachers, but how do you then stop the kids passing the virus between themselves so they don't act as the transmitters between homes?

The younger you are the less chance of showing symptoms, but they are not being tested to see if they are asymptomatic.
21/01/2021 17:03:42 1 2
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So who will you prevent getting the jab to do it?
21/01/2021 17:17:19 5 1
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I am happy for teachers to be vaccinated before me. They are currently putting themselves at daily risk by teaching those who are at school.

The problem is not just about a need to vaccinate teachers. Even with testing, rates need to get much lower so that pupils are less likely to pass it to each other and their families. And this from somone with a child in Y11.
21/01/2021 18:03:42 2 1
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no complete the over fifties with both jabs as they are the ones that are cloging up the NHS then you can think about key workers and teacher are not at the top of the list try army/police/ fire service shop workers etc first them maybe teachers or possibly still better to go down the age groups irispective of job or union pressure
CEP
22/01/2021 11:15:47 0 0
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Can I please remind you that there are more than teachers in schools, I would estimate that at least 40% of staff in schools are in support roles and some of these (dinner ladies) have closer contact than teachers
22/01/2021 15:41:13 0 0
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Schools are closed because children, particularly those over the age of 12, are "vectors for transmission". The children themselves and to some extent the teachers are relatively safe. I believe there is another ulterior reason for closing schools. Staff are frequently told to self isolate and the cost of supply teachers from supply agencies has gone through the roof.
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21/01/2021 12:15:04 50 43
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Err, any one with common sense listening to Gavin Williams on the Today Program would almost certainly saw through his lies and contemptuous comments. Why are the Tories such blatant liars?
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21/01/2021 12:26:18 12 4
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Lied about what exactly?
Parents should get their money/ taxes/ fees back for the period from March 23rd of the 2020. This is not education. This is a sheer farce.
Same with NI contributions for NHS.
No service - no contributions. Mickymouse online appointments, not responding to emails, phone calls, letters, postponing appointments, treatments is not a health service. It's a mockery. Completely unprepared.
71
21/01/2021 12:26:19 5 7
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Had to quit my job to home educate as schools pitiful PDF education just doesn't cut it.
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21/01/2021 12:15:10 9 7
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I work with kids. However as I'm not in a cushy unionised public sector roll I'm receiving zero special treatment. Techers should appreciate the position they're in.
72
21/01/2021 12:26:26 2 1
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You must have had a hard time at school I can see this from your hubris and spelling.
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21/01/2021 12:23:15 13 31
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GOOD GOD - THESE TEACHERS AND STARMER JUST CAN'T STOP WHINGING,CAN THEY???? First we find a cure and then we roll it out on a red carpet. JUST GET ON WITH IT AND STOP COMPLAINING!! WOW I'M SO ANGRY.
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21/01/2021 12:26:40 15 6
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Did your teachers not teach you not to write in capitals?
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Parents should get their money/ taxes/ fees back for the period from March 23rd of the 2020. This is not education. This is a sheer farce.
Same with NI contributions for NHS.
No service - no contributions. Mickymouse online appointments, not responding to emails, phone calls, letters, postponing appointments, treatments is not a health service. It's a mockery. Completely unprepared.
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Tim
21/01/2021 12:27:17 7 0
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Note that people without children also pay for schools
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21/01/2021 12:15:04 50 43
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Err, any one with common sense listening to Gavin Williams on the Today Program would almost certainly saw through his lies and contemptuous comments. Why are the Tories such blatant liars?
75
21/01/2021 12:27:30 14 8
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Name a politician of any colour who does not liar on a daily basis!
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DW
21/01/2021 13:38:26 0 1
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Oh that's ok, then, if they all do it. Lie away, Gavin.............
52
21/01/2021 12:22:55 5 8
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Since when did it take guts to be a teacher? Lots of jobs take 'guts' to do but a teacher is not one of them! Have respect for people that really do put their lives on the line every day.
76
21/01/2021 12:27:38 2 1
bbc
So how much experience have you had in teaching in an inner city school.
96
21/01/2021 12:31:41 2 3
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Not all teachers work in inner city schools... Guts to work in a primary school vs guts to work for the police...
Parents should get their money/ taxes/ fees back for the period from March 23rd of the 2020. This is not education. This is a sheer farce.
Same with NI contributions for NHS.
No service - no contributions. Mickymouse online appointments, not responding to emails, phone calls, letters, postponing appointments, treatments is not a health service. It's a mockery. Completely unprepared.
77
21/01/2021 12:27:40 8 0
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Why parents? Every tax payer pays for the education of the kids, even those who do not have any. So by your logic those who don't have any kids should pay less tax yes?
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21/01/2021 12:12:53 151 67
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It’s interesting, schools open, virus runs rampant, schools close, virus recedes. Who’d have thought it, because kids don’t catch anything going.
78
21/01/2021 12:28:13 6 2
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So, other measures made no difference then?
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21/01/2021 15:41:48 1 0
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correct !
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21/01/2021 12:17:06 114 69
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The way the unions have presented themselves during this is doing the teachers no favours. Most Teachers are flexible and willing to adapt to the ever changing requirements, the union leaders on the other hand just complain at anything and make demands

Who do they think they are to say if and when schools should be open and shut during a pandemic - no qualification to do so whatsoever.
79
21/01/2021 12:28:20 15 7
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I think given Williamson's lack of ability to organise the proverbial in a brewery, the teaching unions have in the main been correct.
53
21/01/2021 12:23:15 13 31
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GOOD GOD - THESE TEACHERS AND STARMER JUST CAN'T STOP WHINGING,CAN THEY???? First we find a cure and then we roll it out on a red carpet. JUST GET ON WITH IT AND STOP COMPLAINING!! WOW I'M SO ANGRY.
80
21/01/2021 12:28:23 4 1
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Calm down dear, and you seem to be randomly pressing CAPS LOCK and various punctuation keys, are you leaning on something?
81
21/01/2021 12:28:37 5 11
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Make it six months. Schools should not consider opening this side of the summer holiday period. Settle in to proper education at home. The population will not be vaccinated before autumn.
82
21/01/2021 12:28:53 9 14
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Gavin Williamson told BBC Breakfast he was "not able to exactly say" when pupils will return to class.

He's not able to say anything. Too afraid of upsetting his better's.(Creep).
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21/01/2021 12:32:44 12 3
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No, he’s being honest
107
21/01/2021 12:33:45 8 0
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so Milo, you tell us the infection rates for next week?, next month?
How many hospital beds will be free?

So you're afriad of upsetting people too?
or you just dont know?
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21/01/2021 12:14:31 14 4
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Data has been released today that proves teachers were more likely to catch COVID. Plenty of evidence out there if you want to look. I’m guessing that you don’t like the idea of being wrong so chances of you looking are slim.
83
21/01/2021 12:29:03 5 1
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More likely to catch covid when compared to sitting at home... yes, of course.
10
21/01/2021 12:10:36 30 23
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Get ready for the next U-turn. No prizes for guessing.
84
21/01/2021 12:29:09 6 2
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Please, I am waiting
69
21/01/2021 12:26:08 153 52
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Get the teachers vaccinated now , so the kids can go back to school at the earliest possible juncture. Use the 24-7 vaccine slots in the early hours to achieve it.

Children are suffering long term damage, their well being needs to be a major priority.
85
21/01/2021 12:29:12 52 197
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They would only complain about having to get up
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21/01/2021 12:35:21 36 3
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Erm... Good theory, were it not for many teachers actually being in schools teaching the children who are in schools at the moment, as well as those at home
145
21/01/2021 12:42:02 80 6
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Why don’t you inform yourself about the situation, rather than mouthing off?

My 13-year-old son is receiving - at home - brilliant online teaching, marking, engagement, extra sessions after school for kids who are struggling...

It’s clear to me that teachers are working really hard.

You’re the education equivalent of the numpties who stand outside hospitals shouting that Covid is “fake news”.
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PFC
21/01/2021 12:44:27 32 2
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God, you make yourself: look stupid!
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21/01/2021 12:35:12 34 3
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I seriously cannot believe that you have replied that! I don't think that there is one teacher in the country who feels that way! We WANT to be in the classrooms, educating children NOT dying from a disease that is being spread by inconsiderate and irresponsible people! I will not mention names!!!
221
21/01/2021 13:01:45 17 1
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Well, you got your reactions you clearly wanted. Silly comment which will clearly offend many hardworking people and has no basis in reality. In saying that, I do admit a lie in this morning would have been a lovely change!
335
21/01/2021 13:28:20 31 1
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If someone phoned me and said I can have the vaccine tomorrow, only problem is it's at 3am, I would be there in a shot.

I actually felt safe doing my job with the measures my school put in place. It's the mixing of pupils that's the problem. They can't (younger pupils) or won't (older pupils) distance. And they will spread between them and take the virus home.

But yeah, blame the teachers.
384
21/01/2021 13:35:30 6 1
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Who are you referring to?
537
21/01/2021 14:02:50 7 1
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Don’t measure everybody else by your own lazy behaviours. School failure screaming for attention with your inane comment.
559
21/01/2021 14:10:42 12 1
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Obviously you have no idea about the teaching profession. Most work into the late evening/early morning hours and survive on very little sleep.
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mac
21/01/2021 14:18:00 6 1
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I will mention that to my wife as she is leaving home every day at 7 pm to go and teach.
647
21/01/2021 14:35:28 12 1
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You seem to be under the illusion that because schools are closed to most pupils the teachers are not working. Shows how little you know.
752
21/01/2021 14:55:56 11 1
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The schools are not shut, most of the teachers are going in to teach vulnerable children and the children of key workers.
954
21/01/2021 15:46:07 9 1
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Seriously, when this is all over, go and do a week job shadowing a teacher. Bet you wouldn't last the week.
21/01/2021 16:21:52 6 1
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What an offensive comment. Every teacher I know would drive to a vaccine centre at any hour of the day or night if it meant they could get back into the classroom with their pupils. Such ignorance.
21/01/2021 16:33:48 7 1
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I’m a teacher. I have been teaching throughout lockdown. I would be delighted to be vaccinated and would happily attend at any time of the day or night. If you want schools open, it does seem to be one way forward. And it’s more solution focused than mindless teacher bashing.
21/01/2021 16:28:40 3 1
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Well, if they are still working in school, delivering lessons online outside of that as well as marking and planning in their own time then maybe they have a point? People have to sleep and eat sometime.
21/01/2021 16:37:58 3 3
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I'd just like to thank you for all the taxes you pay towards my lovely long holidays, big salary and huge pension pot. Let's hope the bitterness does lasting damage to you.
21/01/2021 17:10:06 4 1
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Trouble with really thick people is they are too thick to realise just how thick they are!
21/01/2021 21:55:39 1 1
bbc
No, we wouldn't. Stop reading the Daily Mail!
21/01/2021 23:04:36 0 1
bbc
p???t?
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Parents should get their money/ taxes/ fees back for the period from March 23rd of the 2020. This is not education. This is a sheer farce.
Same with NI contributions for NHS.
No service - no contributions. Mickymouse online appointments, not responding to emails, phone calls, letters, postponing appointments, treatments is not a health service. It's a mockery. Completely unprepared.
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21/01/2021 12:29:26 3 0
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Sounds like you are having a really good day. Keep smiling!
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21/01/2021 12:29:27 227 40
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I have absolutely no faith in anything Gavin Williamson says.

He takes incompetence to a world beating level, and given who he works with, that is quite a world beating feat in and of itself.
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21/01/2021 12:32:03 115 34
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He has a great mentor - BoJo.
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21/01/2021 12:40:51 4 2
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Would you buy a second-hand fireplace from this man?
278
21/01/2021 12:49:50 6 9
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And your great contribution to the world is what exactly? Or are you just sat in a dark room with your keyboard?
527
21/01/2021 14:00:47 4 4
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Can anyone name one competent member of this Government
21/01/2021 17:37:30 0 1
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Not long ago I would never have believed it possible, but I think he is actually worse than Gove was.
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21/01/2021 12:23:15 13 31
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GOOD GOD - THESE TEACHERS AND STARMER JUST CAN'T STOP WHINGING,CAN THEY???? First we find a cure and then we roll it out on a red carpet. JUST GET ON WITH IT AND STOP COMPLAINING!! WOW I'M SO ANGRY.
88
21/01/2021 12:29:29 3 3
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Maybe because they're affraid? And have a union with the balls to protect them?
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21/01/2021 12:23:45 15 26
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Will not satisfy the teachers and their unions, just waiting for the complaints from them, they will soon be demanding at least 2 months notice so that their social life is not distributed to much.
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Jay
21/01/2021 12:29:30 9 7
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Please check your spelling and wording before you criticise anyone working in education.
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21/01/2021 12:54:12 1 0
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Please consider the education someone has received before criticising spelling and wording.
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21/01/2021 12:10:55 6 7
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Wheres the data to prove teachers are catching covid off pupils and dying please?
90
21/01/2021 12:29:46 2 1
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Where is the data that is the problem you must have noticed this Government is very economical with the truth and statistics. Its not just teachers its their families who are exposed.
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21/01/2021 12:26:08 153 52
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Get the teachers vaccinated now , so the kids can go back to school at the earliest possible juncture. Use the 24-7 vaccine slots in the early hours to achieve it.

Children are suffering long term damage, their well being needs to be a major priority.
91
21/01/2021 12:30:18 18 26
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Teachers are not the issue they do not matter. Schooling is a mass cramming of a heard together in confined spaces to catch and spread a virus. Practically designed for it. It is not remotely a staff issue.
819
21/01/2021 15:08:54 1 4
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So, let’s close for years on end, destroy the education of many, and create a generation of thickies. Schools shouted be open Easter at the absolute and utter latest. Hopefully a few weeks before.
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21/01/2021 12:12:08 9 6
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Show me the statistics that say they are more at risk... Oh yes, there aren't any.
92
21/01/2021 12:30:33 3 0
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Lack of statistics is hardly evidence. Lots of statistics would be evidence.
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21/01/2021 12:17:19 3 4
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Irrefutable proof please
93
21/01/2021 12:31:15 3 1
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They're not even measuring it...how convenient
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PJ
21/01/2021 12:11:51 9 12
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What a mess. I think I might deregister my children and educate them at home until all this is over. Too much uncertainty and anxiety to expect youngsters to cope with. A stable, normal environment is what will help them get through it and do well in eduaction, not being in school at all costs.
94
21/01/2021 12:31:23 1 1
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Well apparently with the "quality" twinkl and oak education they've got it covered seems that's all the so-called "teaching" one of our kids is getting.
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21/01/2021 12:13:15 8 9
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No. The point I am making is that, no matter what is suggested, the unions complain about it.
95
21/01/2021 12:31:28 2 2
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Union's role is to look for the best for their members. It is what the 1922 committee do everyday.
76
21/01/2021 12:27:38 2 1
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So how much experience have you had in teaching in an inner city school.
96
21/01/2021 12:31:41 2 3
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Not all teachers work in inner city schools... Guts to work in a primary school vs guts to work for the police...
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21/01/2021 12:20:16 22 23
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Speaking of two weeks notice, good on piers Morgan for being the voice of the people and demanding Williamson’s resignation this morning. That is how you question them bbc, not your toadying up of allowing a Tory party political broadcast uninterrupted before thanking them for their time.

It also means they are at home into February at least, and probably longer
97
21/01/2021 12:31:42 5 1
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What a bag of hot air and I ain't talking about Piers.
98
21/01/2021 12:31:52 18 11
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Dear Boris, Just put williamson out of his misery, out of touch, out of his depth, lost confidence of teachers, media and more importantly parents. He is absolutely clueless.
131
21/01/2021 12:39:21 21 13
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You forget that Johnson needs people who are evidently even more useless than he is around him in order to look better himself!
87
21/01/2021 12:29:27 227 40
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I have absolutely no faith in anything Gavin Williamson says.

He takes incompetence to a world beating level, and given who he works with, that is quite a world beating feat in and of itself.
99
21/01/2021 12:32:03 115 34
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He has a great mentor - BoJo.
345
21/01/2021 13:29:28 8 0
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Corbyn as PM would have been a much better mentor for everyone, of course.
47
21/01/2021 12:21:27 4 4
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And there is plenty of data to suggest that they are not more likely to contract COVID
100
21/01/2021 12:32:32 0 2
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Which evidence where can it be seen?